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hey hey this is the sounds on final show the only show in the freaking

world that will make your ears bleed this week we've got as tony ione nita

straus ike pop c d c and some ship about vinal so we'll be right

back to make your ears bleed yeah hey hey my name as always is phil

boyer and from across the vast open seas where the vikings once ruled is my

brother from another mother professor rock star extraordinary let singer of bands past prison future

mike fence and mike what the hell is going on

oh it's going good it's it's so much to do being going to be opening

the record story in a couple of months so i'm buying a ship load of

yeah

albums putting up shelves on and and

yeah

doing the best i can to make the place look really good so

yeah

it's going to be a lot of fun

yeah

this sounds on final record story

yeah you sent me a picture before we started recording here and it's looking

m

it's

yeah

shaping up and it's looking it's looking

it's

good

up yeah

it's looking good

all right

yeah

it is cool or okay so i just want to start since i'm the vinal

guy vinal nord or

oh

whatever the heck we want to call me i got a d m talking about

how to differ between how to tell the difference between newly

i

pressed album and an old one so

m

i

m

i tried to explain this because for me it's so like yeah well you know

it's just look at the record

oh

and what not then i had to explain

at

and i had to send pictures even

oh

so we've talked about this

oh

a lot of times before especially with with soren

oh

who is the ultimate vinal nord the book called all about final or in

yeah

scandinavian altum venue

oh

so i got a little album hair

oh

and the way for you to tell because

a

they're sneaky sometimes the new or pressings they

yeah

tend to look exactly

oh

like the old one so what you need to do is to take your

no

your your album here

yeah

your vinal record and then you look

what

for this it's the called the run out grove here so in there it's sort

of like a mirror thing where you see all the groves that go right up

until the end here

oh

then you get some sort of like a blank spot here and here's numbers and

oh

and if you look at

no

those real closely

it

it it's it's there is

the

at some on some albums

yet

there is even inscriptions

oh

from the guys that have

ah

has remostered the album or or cut the album and the tentially

oh

their initials so we talked about this

oh

with robert ludwig who did the

m

sapling to and done kiss alive he has r

m

l in his markings on right next student you can find some numbers on this

oh

one it says two three nine one two two four

oh

five one dash three so and this is a rainbow album

right

right here

yeah

and with that number

yeah

you can tell whether it's new york pressing

yeah

or or an old one original if that's what you're looking for and and the

best suggestion that i have is

no

go on a page called disco

i

disco

yeah

dot com and then you can

yeah

see all the listings for all the releases

my

and an artist have done with that kelly album so so that's it that's what

you need to look for the matrix

yeah

numbers in the rana grub

there you go

there you go that's my five cents on renal records today

awesome hey and speaking of

it is

final records so they

hm

are on the rise sales are on the rise of final records which

oh

is

yeah

your year

yes

year the sales from twenty one to twenty twenty two are up three point eight

percent three point eight percent two point two million records were sold during the last

week of december right before christmas compared to only two point one in the year

before twenty twenty one um and it usually pops right before christmas obviously people are

buying final his presence and stuff like that but that's pretty

yeah

slick so three almost four percent man that's awesome

yeah i tried to explain this to to ordinary

ye

disturbed people

oh

uh that

yeah

just just to get a grip on

ah

on how big vinal records

oh

are today for the general person when aba did their reunion the aba voyage album

they released that one on both on sid and on final

ah

and this is a band that hasn't released an album in forty years s

right

so they decided to do some new tracks and and release a new album now

m

the pressing plants here in europe they were all booked by aba

ah

cause they pre ordered a million copies

jes

a million copies

yeah

for their brand new album

hm

so and that hasn't been done since the nineties i mean i mean units for

for ilium for aba or you tube or

ah

the rolling stones that's that's that's

yes

peanuts in the nineties but this is like two thousand and twenty one thousand and

twenty two i mean a million units gee

m

re ordering a

hm

million units so and how did it go h i think it was sort of

like two and a half weeks they sold out

m

a million units

damn

and they had to repress it

damn

and the english artist adele it's more like in the pobulagena i mean abbey is

an older band five hundred thousand

m

copies

even that's

pre

too much

ordered

well no i didn't

yet

say anything

even though well you see i mean abe million units

oh

and adele i mean a smaller artist the nabob five hundred units that i mean

that's insane

it is yeah

so so that's how big vina list nowadays

yeah

so it's cooler

yeah that's cool

oh

it's awesome

yeah

it's good for

so what's

you

going on in the news

it's good for you

it's

with

good

the

for me

yeah with

oh

the

yeah

record star

oh oh yeah

sure

oh yeah fuck it it's crazy

yeah

i love it

all right what t do you got on the news front what's on your list

oh yeah

yeah

here's here's a different different thing that i heard about

yeah

read about

yeah

gie pop was

m

asked

m

to join a

yeah

c d c

bullshit

at some point

i call bullshit

what yeah i think i think so too i mean didn't quite understand if

yeah

there wasn't a real

yeah

request about that i mean did he get

ye

the call from angus

yes

hey when you join i mean what's up with that what kind of news is

that

i

would would would they even consider one another

i it's just that's not a good fit i can't imagine that

no

but that just now now i've seen there's a lot of people are coming out

what i was to be part of this band and you know it's like okay

that's easy to say twenty years later like you know

yeah

you probably

yeah

had that in a drug induced dream or some ship that never fucking happened

yeah

i copilshit on a lot

no

of this stuff

yeah

you know

but why would pop i mean his career is i mean

oh

it's it's almost bigger than c d c i mean all the ship that he's

done i mean or

ye

i mean similar but why would they let

oh

go to i mean that it's insane he's a punk rock icon and

m

and is it is or like a

oh

blues

yeah

can roll band

it just

so

doesn't doesn't work doesn't fit

it doesn't doesn't fit

no

at all

no

so it's nuts

like

we call bullshit down

yeah

that one

yeah i mean if you're going to go for a punk rock icon feel like

somebody like glen danzig would fit c d c lot better

oh

you

yeah

know that i could see

yeah

actually you know what if instead of axel rose i feel like lyndangsig would have

been ave better pick to go on on tour with a c d c his

last rout but

could you hear him a lot of rose

oh

yeah

it's no more like

m

elves

have you heard dancing sing his elves

oh god it's bad

he did and

it's so

oh

bad

it's horrible

so i mean

oh

i love danzigdangsis you know

oh me

his

too

career with the misfits

and miss

and all

fits

that i mean come on sam

oh

and of course

jess

dancing but now that was that was i don't know man

yeah

i don't know i don't know

i remember sitting down and try and

no

so i'm going

right

really on to listen to this i'm sorry oh shit i mean is this for

real but

yes

i couldn't i mean two or three songs saying that i had to stop it

was i don't know

no i see i'm not an vis fan but i am a danzig fan and

that said

yeah

i've made my feelings known about l vi and i would rather listen to all

those elis songs by elvas singing them than danzig trying to do those it was

yeah

it's just

and i'm an im a nail of this fan and i thought it was i

mean

it was

really

just

horrible

it wasn't good it was not good

oh

not good

man

at all

no

now

no

but

oh

speaking

crap

of singers

hm

fucking rolling stone have you seen this bullshit they put out with their top singers

what is it like five hundred or two hunter greatest singer list

oh

yeah well oh

have they done it

yeah

themselves

yeah the rolling stone magazine

yeah

they put out their two hundred greatest singers list and i'm going to go through

okay

here and i'm going to share just just the rock based singers off the list

all right

so number twelve john lennon

okay

number fourteen freddy mercury i know you're not a freddy mercury fan but

oh but

but to

fourteen

have him

geese

him underneath john lennon

jesus

no a twenty eight palma cartney thirty two

okay

david boy again david boy is an icon but a great singer

yeah

i don't know mick jagger

oh

he's number fifty two um

jesus

m okay number sixty three robert plant robert plants all the way at sixty three

oh my god

ah

who seemed to top

i don't know that i don't know chris cornell chris fucking cornell number eighty steve

perry

jesus

eighty two eddy venter eddie fucking veter that dude can't sing

uh

sounds like he's having a fucking seizure when

uh

he sings what the hell one o five one o nine is

oh

roger dultry roger

jesus

adultery is underneath fucking eddie vetter and chris cornell are you fucking serious ouse

jes

is that one twelve rob halford

oh man

rob halford one twenty nine rob alford is

ah

under eddivetter and chris cornell are you fucking kidding me with that

it

axel rose

jesus

one thirty four ronnie

oh

james fucking deo one sixty five one sixty five

what

they put

the fuck

they put all these assholes on top wealth not all as holes i take that

back but fucking ronnie dios way under one is that one sixty five we way

towards the bottom of this two hundred list this is that too

oh

honored

my

so they thought

gosh

he was only in like the bottom like quarter of this list it's fucking bullshit

ike pop we were just talking about pop one seventy six bob segar one eighty

one and we also talked about danzig he is at one ninety nine just barely

got in there under the two hundred i read this and i couldn't bear to

listen to to take a peek at the

oh

top

my

ten

god

i have no idea s in the top ten but that list is fucking bullshit

you got bruce dickinson

oh my

is

god

not on there jeff tate when his heyday was phenomenal singer not on their

yeah

it's just it's fucking it's sick man like who the fuck came up with this

list

jesus christ

fuck rolling stone i'm gonna say that funk you rolling stone fucking ridiculous

i mean it is it is ridiculous

oh

i mean jesus christ

yeah

now now i'm curious i have have

you have

to

to

know

go look

i have to go look man

it's i don't know

jess

it's

it's a fucking insane list

an and for

jesus

being

christ

on aus is not a great singer it works

no

it works for sabbath it works for his solo stuff but i mean no no

man no it's just

up twenty real quick

yeah

twenty is marvin gay nineteen

m

frank senatra

frank senate didn't even fucking sing he talked singed

eight eightingselia cruise

i don't even know who the fun that is

no seventeen albs sixteen prince he's not even in the top town jesus oh my

god

how

number fifteen bob dan in the bas mix

ah

men's man the payment fred mercury fourteen jesus christ patsy cline thirteen oh my god

yeah

little richard eleven okay all green number ten this reading nine

yeah

beyond c eight

yeah

t v wonder okay i can see it at number seven

m

ray chars

m

number six maria carry number five

like

oh my god

jesus christ

really holiday number four okay i can see that sam cook number three whitney houston

number two

i

and the number one singer of all times okay i can i can buy that

read to franklin but jesus christ prince not even in the top town oh

and

my god

there were so many that along on that list you know from the days

oh yeah

of the blues and all that like i'm sorry but beyond say are you fucking

kidding me really especially higher than ronnie do are you fucking

oh

kidding me the fact that ronny deal wasn't even in the top five

oh

on that list i mean that's a fucking joke it's a fucking joke

it is

fuck you rolling stone

it is

i'm going to say it again

uh uh oh man

n fact that's gonna be the title show fuck you rolling stone oh

there you go okay i'm i'm smoothing things out a bit i'm talking about because

we're planning on doing a women special of rock we're talking about this so i'm

gonna sneak peak a bit and and drawing a guitar player that i had had

my eyes on for for quite some time name

m

is nita straus used to play with with alice cooper for like several years i

oh

think six or seven years at least but then she decided to try something different

and i think she's playing with demilovato

ah

a a right now but she's releasing solar stuff for self and it's it's it's

more metal and hard rock than dendmilovado

m

e even did a thing with

oh my god sir and white glose from from our enemy i can remember first

alis

name

lisa lisa

lisa alicia white

yeah

as they did a thing together and i think it's it's cool because this is

a young guitar player a woman that has been trying to to get noticed for

such a long time

oh

and all of a sudden alis cooper

ye

cesar and things that wow this this could work really well and to see that

there are platforms for young women to take a stand and and

a

make something of themselves with like music or or theater or whatever but like this

and in the rock and roll industry where is a lot of guys playing tar

in bands on an and what not so to be able to to to be

like some sort of like guitar hair or because

yeah

she has clinics have seen online

yes

and there is a lot the younger kids especially young girls

m

that

yeah

tend to her clinic

oh

and look up to her so i think that's that's a great thing

yeah

and she's got to i knew all of them coming out so so that's that's

going to be cool so we're going to talk more about women in and in

rock and rolled in in the future hero an

yes

so

yes that's in the it's in the works we're not quite sure what

yes

that's going to look like it might end up being just an

no

episode or might be a little many documentary like our sweden rock dock enter which

if you haven't seen

yeah

go check it out there's be a link in the description but yeah yeah looking

forward to that

cool

yeah you got something on your on your news list that i also picked so

oh cool let's go

tony omi

do it only one man

sabbath yes what

the riff moster

more re issues come in our way from black sabbath the tony martin era

yeah

i guess they're going to re release

yeah

and apparently

a

he's writing a new record

oh oh

do

do we want a new record for ntoniaomi

yeah

yeah i think i do

i think so too

i think so too i mean the dude has got i mean you've heard the

rumors you know he's got like all these rifts in a box somewhere in his

vault right he's got rift after rift after rift most haven't even seen the light

of day i mean i bet you if he released an album of just rifts

uh

he would fucking sell

uh

it would sound

yeah

because

yeah

i mean tthe dude is he's definitely up there he's got that signature sound that

nobody has been able to replicate many of try but you know there's nobody can

nobody's tony nobody can do that oh

you know what what i just figure i mean wouldn't it be cool to do

it i would love a buck set from that guy

hm

from like the get go from from the beginning where he started out doing demos

h

i would listen to that

m

in an instant

m

i mean and i would bet that

yeah

he's an english dude i mean it wouldn't cost a million dollars for him to

release that i mean we would we would see that up with our mating i

mean sorry for motor head and and and those bands for for a lot like

beneath the hundred dollars for

hm

for a box set so i think that be cool i mean could you imagine

ah

here in

oh

those first demos that he did for earth

yeah

i mean fuck in hell or even i mean even demos for the first sabbath

albums paranoid and and what not jesus

yeah i mean you could go on youtube and you can hear some of those

early earth demos and and some

yeah

even like the it was sort of that in between between earth and sabbath and

man that stuff is so dark

yeah

and heavy and

it is

it's

yeah

it's what a time that was yeah that would be that would be awesome to

see

that would be a thing

yeah

man

that'd be

fuck

slack

in hell oh man to

so

it's

yeah i think

a mean

i want a record i think i could

yeah

go for some new music you know especially

yeah

if he did some collaborations i mean funk if robert plant did guest vocals on

there or something or

oh

like

man

roger daltree or some of those old guys you know from the sixties and seventies

yeah

that would be slick

and

oh

antony feels like a guy who wouldn't release any music if it wasn't good

hm

i mean

ye

if he if he thought well i need more money in my bank account

yeah

so i need to force myself to do another album that's not tony

no

that's not tony at all so i'm thinking that when he decides to release this

album it's going to be good

yes yeh so hopefully it will happen hopefully we'll see it because that will

yeah

be slick yeah

oh man colors

yeah

so what's what's else into

that's

news

all i got man that's it

that's all you

it's

got

it it was

damn

it was slow man you know i think the holiday slowed things down a little

bit

yeah

everybody's kind of taken a breather but

yeah

yeah

i just want to mention the thing because because i got a new generation here

m

at home

oh

with my masons is turning into a big medal

m

so we're listening to a documentary about natalia and because he wants to know everything

at the moment he wants to go see them he wants to listen to all

the albums and he is wearing t shirts and he's

a

he's looking through red lightning

oh

kill them all and most or puppets

yeah

pictures

yeah

so far it's all the chit that dot i am

yeah

saved from back into day so we're listening to this documentary on swedish radio

yes

and gets to the point where they talk about dave mitaine

yeah

and they talk about him starting to drink and i became angry and violent

yeah

and so forth and then all of a sudden they decided to do fire this

guy and then they

oh

moved along and in the show and and all of a sudden they are talking

about the big four

m

which hit gothenburg

he

with

what

slayer and megatethaand metallic and athrixandand i explained to him as

oh

you remember that guy who got fired right before they released our first album yeah

yeah

his name was dave mustane

a

and he formed a band called megateth

oh

which is part of the big four played together with metallic slayer and and outhraks

oh that's cool and you know what he still cries

my

to this

oh

day for not being in metallic at what yeah he actually cries it was just

a couple of

yeah

months ago he cannot swallow that still that he got fired from italica but he

played

what

in front of sixty five thousand in gothenburg together

yeah

with with his former band mates together with slayer together we anthrax because he is

in a band that he formed himself which is called the big four and you

heard him go quiet a bit

m

is he stupid

oh

i said

okay

well

oh

i'm just giving you the fact i'm giving you the fact so we talked about

this

yes

because i saw that that they're planning on undoing another album and he's been struggling

with cancer or what not but and we talked about this

oh

because

oh

i got a chance to buy a couple of metal albums

i

and and

yeah

p elson who's buying what was

yeah

and that makes for the store and and i showed him and the picture and

the art work and so forth which i think is really cool by the way

not the music so much but the art work

ah

and we came to talk about this and and

yeah

we we compared all all this i mean

yeah

mayhem that that was in the in the eighties with all the record carvers and

all the metal heads that that like you and i right with our bikes and

yeah

meeting up and with friends and so forth having

yeah

our boom box and so forth and megadet

yeah

was in that

oh

mix because it was also

oh

in the eighties so he did have

i

pretty great career and still has one if i'm not mistaken i don't know i

think megatix is still around

yeah they just put out a new

so

record or they're about

yeah

to

okay

one of the two

i wanted to do yeah i'm not keeping track so but but it's strange

yeah

to to hear

ye

and and there was an expert on metallic on this documentary and she said the

same thing he just and let this go still today he just cannot let

yeah

it go that he was fired but it's

i

it's i mean if that was it for him i would understand but but it's

it's

you know what

i mean it's

he's

incense

one of those narsisists that

ah

he's like trump and elon mosk and these guys that

oh

think that they're that they're the best thing that ever happened to the world and

yeah

the he canes megadeth yes he's had a good career megadeth has made a name

it's it's a it's a big band but it's still a piss in the bucket

compared to metallica

uh

and he can't he can't

uh

accept

yeah

that he can't

yeah

he can't accept that he's not as good as metallica is now if if if

he was bigger than metal we would still hear about it because he would say

you know metallic made the mistake and they fired me and look how big i

am and look how small they are it's just his

yeah

personality he will never let it go because he's a fucking seis psychopath that thinks

he's

oh

more talented than he is and he just needs to suck and move on or

i don't know we all need to move on you can send all your

yeah

hate mail to me if you want

yeah

but that's just my

yeah

my interpretation of dave mistaine i mean

yeah

i don't know

but but it's strange because because

yeah

i'm trying to i mean it's not that i'm not moving along because i really

don't care but

yeah

but since i mean this is a new documentary

oh

swedish national

i

radio and they talk

m

about this the way that we talk about it more diploma

oh

of course because it's natural radio but still they have to mention it if if

that was the case that there was it's just a blip in history map when

he talked about metallic they wouldn't mention it all so this dude they was saying

he got fired

oh

because he was drunk and hit people and he got angry and he couldn't play

his inter instrument moving along with the metallic history no then the

right

expert

uh

expert on the talk comes in and she says well

oh

m this is my interpretation of the whole thing

yeah

and she has the same feelings that we

yeah

do more

hm

diblematie of course still but it's it's still to this day

no

i mean won't go away because he won't go away

no no and those kind of people they don't they run a lot of things

that they touch and they don't see it that way they don't see that that

it's that it's on them you know you look at what you know to really

go off topic here you look at what elan musk has done to twitter and

then the two months he's

yeah

been at the helm i mean it's a dempster fire you know he's getting

yeah

the headquarters he's getting advicted from you know in two months he's set this thing

so far much on fire you know who knows what's going to happen i don't

know i mean he's going to have he's going a have to bring somebody in

you look at trump and say what you want about his politics but the dude's

bankrupted pretty much every single company he's overstarted these guys are there they can't see

reality right and i think they've mistained the same way he can't see reality he

can't see that had metallic kept in the band there would be no metallica today

we wouldn't have had we might have had writ the lightning but we wouldn't have

had anything past that we wouldn't have had a third fourth they wouldn't be the

biggest fan that they are today um so i mean that said it's not that

bad because then we wouldn't have had the black album so that version of history

you had to go there fucking

yeah

ell you had to go there

but but enough about

oh

that enough

man

about that guy i mean

no

it is you know it is what it is you know and

yeah

and you know just we have we have metallica and they seem to be going

on a better troductory these days of doing better uh you know heavier music and

not the poppy based they were doing there for a while in the nineties and

early two thousand so i don't know we'll see it's an evolution for sure

we'll see yeah

yep

you can follow everything here on the sand so vile

right

we're talking more

yes

metallic

yes and with that i guess it's time

what

to get the fuck out of here unless you got some last words

it is no

that's it

no last words

all right so until next week go listen to some megadethlater

later