Kerry Kay is a tango dancer, energy healer, motorcycle rider, and dear friend.

As you'll hear, she performed a Reiki healing on me many years ago, when I didn't believe in that sort of thing.

I went on not believing, even as I experienced something pretty remarkable (if not downright miraculous).

Over the years, my own attitudes have softened; the more I know about science, the more I realize science doesn't know.

So if you're willing to "go there" with us, you're in for a fascinating glimpse into the heart and mind of a healer.

In our conversation, Kerry and I dive into:

• descriptions of Reiki and Family Constellation work
• her early experience of "deficiency" and her personal journey of healing
• how to research energy healing
• "the miracle of a cut finger"
• being willing to not know how things work
• can the past be changed in the present? (the dance of metaphor and reality)
• the astounding findings of the PEAR (Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research) Lab, and how they relate to the phenomenon of energy healing
• the benefits of being open-minded
• and much more...