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Episode 413rd December 2025 • State of the Second • Gun Owners of America
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Yehuda, known online as the Pew Pew Jew, joins hosts Kaylee and John on State of the Second to trace how he went from a spoiled LA kid who thought only police, military, and bad guys could own guns to one of the most recognizable voices for Jewish gun owners. He explains that he got into the industry by accident. After his parents had what he calls a Chernobyl meltdown over learning he owned a Glock 19, he set out to teach his own kids gun safety, went looking on Amazon for a children's book on the subject, and found none existed. So he wrote one. It took five years to get published because no one would touch it, and once it was out he was suddenly being called a gun safety expert on podcasts and radio.

Much of the conversation centers on what it means to be a Jewish gun owner. Yehuda pushes back hard on rabbis who say Jews should not own guns, pointing to a 2,500-year warrior heritage and arguing the community has only been anti-gun since 1945. He says post October 7th there was a massive uptick in Jewish firearms owners, but that many stay quiet about it, and his mission is to get them to be loud instead. He also breaks down how draconian Israel's gun laws actually are compared to the US, and reflects on his own move from California to Texas, where a gunsmith removed his bullet button for free and welcomed him to the state.

The back half turns lighter. In the From the Soapbox segment, Yehuda gives his spicy take that his favorite gun company is High Point, because they know exactly who they are and are willing to joke about themselves while the rest of the industry takes itself too seriously. He and John trade ideas for joke products, and both land on the same theme that runs through the episode: take someone to the range, pass the experience on to the next person, and have fun with it. Kaylee ties it back to building momentum for the Second Amendment, from fighting the NFA to changing hearts and minds one first-time shooter at a time.

Questions this episode answers

How did the Pew Pew Jew get into the firearms industry?

He got into it by accident as a first-time Glock 19 owner. After his parents melted down over learning he owned a gun, he set out to teach his own kids gun safety, couldn't find a children's book on the subject, and wrote one himself, which led to podcasts and radio calling him a gun safety expert.

Why did he write a children's book on gun safety, and how long did it take to publish?

He wrote it because he went looking on Amazon for a children's book to teach his own kids gun safety and found that none existed. It took five years to get published because no one would touch it.

What does he say to rabbis and others in the Jewish community who are anti-gun?

He pushes back hard, pointing to a 2,500-year Jewish warrior heritage and arguing the community has only been anti-gun since 1945. His mission is to get Jewish gun owners who stay quiet to be loud about it instead.

Did Jewish gun ownership change after October 7th?

Yes. He says there was a massive uptick in Jewish firearms owners after October 7th, though many stay quiet about it, which is why he works to get them to speak up.

How do Israel's gun laws compare to laws in the United States?

He breaks down how draconian Israel's gun laws are compared to those in the United States, where firearm ownership is far more accessible.

What was it like buying his first gun in California versus moving to Texas?

He bought his first gun in California, then moved from California to Texas, where a gunsmith removed his bullet button for free and welcomed him to the state.

Why does he name High Point as his favorite gun company?

He names High Point because they know exactly who they are and are willing to joke about themselves, while the rest of the industry takes itself too seriously.

What role does taking people to the range play in growing the Second Amendment community?

He and the hosts agree that taking someone to the range and passing the experience to the next person is the best on-ramp, building momentum for the Second Amendment one first-time shooter at a time.

Chapters

  • 00:28 — Rapid fire: movies, grail gun, and gun culture
  • 03:35 — How he fell into the gun industry by accident
  • 04:47 — Writing a children's book on gun safety
  • 06:30 — Being a Jewish gun owner and a warrior heritage
  • 10:03 — October 7th and Israel's draconian gun laws
  • 13:28 — Advice for closeted gun owners
  • 16:00 — Why he bought his first gun in LA
  • 20:58 — Why the LA riots and North Hollywood shootout didn't move his community
  • 23:01 — Buying in California versus a free state in Texas
  • 27:38 — Expanding into books like Bullet Points
  • 30:36 — From the Soapbox: High Point is his favorite company
  • 35:09 — Joke products and not taking yourself too seriously
  • 38:38 — Passing the range experience on to the next person
  • 46:13 — Wrap up, gift, and where to find him

About the guest

Yehuda, known online as the Pew Pew Jew, is a firearms author and Second Amendment advocate who has worked to amplify the voice of Jewish gun owners for almost nine years. He got into the industry by accident as a first-time Glock 19 owner, then wrote a children's book on gun safety that took five years to get published, going on to write several more children's books and a book titled Bullet Points. He grew up in North Hollywood, California, and now lives in Plano, Texas, where his home range is Mr. Guns. His books and merchandise are available at thepewpewjew.com.

Key quotes

"people with ars don't get in cattle cars" — Yehuda (Pew Pew Jew)
"there's a reason why they come after that right. Because when people don't exercise it, it's much easier to take away." — Yehuda (Pew Pew Jew)
"I'm just a dude who wrote a book for his kids." — Yehuda (Pew Pew Jew)
"gun companies need to stop taking themselves so seriously." — Yehuda (Pew Pew Jew)
"Taking someone to the range is always going to be the best on ramp to get them interested, involved and ready to take the next step." — Kaylee

Transcripts

Speaker A:

Welcome to Gun Owners of America State of the second podcast.

Speaker A:

I'm Kayleigh.

Speaker B:

And I'm John.

Speaker B:

And today we're joined by our great friend Yehuda, the pew pew Jew.

Speaker B:

One of the most amazing people I've met in my entire lifetime in the industry.

Speaker B:

Yehuda, how are you today, my friend?

Speaker C:

I am doing fantastic.

Speaker C:

How are you guys doing?

Speaker B:

Well, you're episode number one of this filming session.

Speaker B:

So we are bright and happy and excited to go.

Speaker B:

So let's go ahead and dive into this.

Speaker B:

We're going to go into our rapid fire segment.

Speaker B:

We're going to ask you five questions.

Speaker B:

So the first question I have for you is what is your favorite firearms movie?

Speaker C:

Favorite firearms movie.

Speaker C:

That's a really good one.

Speaker C:

I would have to go between three.

Speaker C:

John Wick, of course, because it's just awesome.

Speaker C:

Probably Heat has some amazing gunplay in it.

Speaker C:

And one of my favorite westerns of all time, Winchester 73.

Speaker B:

Heat is.

Speaker B:

Nobody has said heat yet.

Speaker B:

Or Winchester 73.

Speaker B:

Those are three good movies.

Speaker B:

Those are three really good movies.

Speaker A:

What content platform do you most enjoy?

Speaker C:

Probably YouTube.

Speaker C:

It's just the easiest for me.

Speaker C:

I don't do TikTok at all.

Speaker C:

Uh, so.

Speaker C:

But probably YouTube, Instagram, stuff like that.

Speaker B:

What is your grail firearm to own MP5.

Speaker B:

It's a good one.

Speaker A:

If you could change one aspect of gun culture, what would you change?

Speaker C:

I can change one aspect of gun culture.

Speaker C:

Um, I think that people in the industry all need to check their egos.

Speaker C:

I think there's too much ego in it.

Speaker C:

And I think that it is detrimental to the gun industry as a whole.

Speaker C:

I'm not saying don't be proud of it, but I'm just saying you see too many people who, who are just so full of themselves and it just shows when they're online, you know, personalities just doing things.

Speaker C:

It's just.

Speaker C:

It's kind of a turnoff.

Speaker B:

No, I. Oh.

Speaker C:

And sorry.

Speaker C:

And gun companies need to stop taking themselves so seriously.

Speaker B:

Thank you.

Speaker B:

Yes, yes, I will.

Speaker B:

I will join in on that.

Speaker B:

All right, last one.

Speaker B:

What is your favorite gun that you own?

Speaker C:

I would have to say I have a custom Glock 19 Gen 3 from DEFCON 3 who did all the stippling work and slide cuts and all this stuff.

Speaker C:

And it's probably like my go to handgun.

Speaker C:

And if, you know, I gotta grab one thing and run, it'll probably be that.

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Speaker B:

Let's go ahead and dive into this.

Speaker B:

Yehuda, tell the folks who you are, how you got into this, how you got into the gun industry, all that kind of fun background stuff.

Speaker C:

Yeah, so I got into the industry by accident.

Speaker C:

I was a gun owner, first time gun owner.

Speaker C:

And I decided, well, I didn't decide.

Speaker C:

I was by my parents house with my wife and my baby and my younger brother found out that I had a Glock 19 and he's like, hey man, when are we going to go shoot your Glock?

Speaker C:

And my parents had like a full on Chernobyl meltdown.

Speaker C:

I mean, it was literally nuclear.

Speaker C:

They did not talk to me for weeks.

Speaker C:

And when they did, it was, you know, you're irresponsible.

Speaker C:

You know, I can't believe you would bring a gun into the home with children.

Speaker C:

And it got me thinking that if I was going to be a gun owner, obviously I have to be a responsible gun owner.

Speaker C:

So that includes not just educating myself, but I needed to educate my children to make sure that they understand gun safety.

Speaker C:

And I went online again.

Speaker C:

This is:

Speaker C:

The only thing really out there was the Eddie Eagle program, which is a fantastic program.

Speaker C:

The only downside to it is all it does is talk about a gun.

Speaker C:

What to do if you find a gun somewhere it's not supposed to be when there's so much more to gun safety.

Speaker C:

So I went to the next best place for research.

Speaker C:

I went to Amazon and I was going to buy a book about gun safety for children.

Speaker C:

And I was shocked that there was no books on the market specifically designed for children on gun safety.

Speaker C:

And I always was a. I was always interested in creative writing.

Speaker C:

So I was like, hey, I'm gonna write my own book.

Speaker C:

Just never thinking that I'd be published like that was.

Speaker C:

It's been a dream of mine to be a published author because I grew up reading.

Speaker C:

My parents took away the TV when I was five, so I didn't grow up watching tv.

Speaker C:

So I've always wanted to be a published author.

Speaker C:

I was like, okay, I'm gonna write a children's book on gun safety.

Speaker C:

And took me five years to get it published, no one would touch it.

Speaker C:

But when I finally got published,.

Speaker B:

I.

Speaker C:

Was being called, you know, a gun safety expert and being on podcasts and radio.

Speaker C:

And I'm like, I'm really not a gun safety expert.

Speaker C:

I'm just a, I'm just a dude who wrote a book for his kids.

Speaker C:

And the next thing I know was, you know, accepted in the firearms industry and almost became the standard for gun safety for children now.

Speaker C:

And that's kind of how I fell into the gun industry.

Speaker B:

I love that.

Speaker B:

And I've known that about you.

Speaker B:

You came up with this brand.

Speaker B:

You've got the pew, pew Jew.

Speaker B:

You talked about your family.

Speaker B:

What is it like to be a Jewish gun owner and the pushback you get from some of your community.

Speaker B:

I've seen you go back and forth and seen some of your posts about some of the rabbis who've come out and said and been very anti gun.

Speaker B:

You know, what is that like to be somebody who's a voice in a community that is historically kind of anti gun?

Speaker C:

, historically anti gun since:

Speaker C:

I mean, look at all of the, the biblical warriors that come, you know, that came before us.

Speaker C:

They crazy amount of we were a warrior heritage.

Speaker C:

So now when you, when you, when I hear rabbis saying how guns are bad and we shouldn't be Jews, should not be owning guns, it kind of irks me because I've been doing this for now almost nine years, trying to amplify the voice of Jewish gun owners saying, hey, people with ars don't get in cattle cars.

Speaker C:

I mean, we see, we see the insane amounts of anti Semitism raging across not just the world, but especially in America now.

Speaker C:

And second Amendment is more important now than ever.

Speaker C:

And it drives me crazy.

Speaker C:

And I've butt heads with a lot of rabbis and stuff like that, saying, you guys can talk about it all you want, but I'm coming.

Speaker C:

I'm literally schooling these rabbis on the Bible, saying, like, you have Abraham fighting the kings, you have Jacob preparing for war.

Speaker C:

You had the campaigns of Joshua, you have the Maccabees, you have all these warriors from Jewish heritage.

Speaker C:

But now in:

Speaker C:

We can't own a firearm to protect ourselves.

Speaker C:

And of course they come up with some dumb answer because they don't have a real answer.

Speaker B:

So as a community member, do you see more Jewish gun ownership?

Speaker B:

Do you see that your impact on the community is growing and are we seeing that as a growing demographic in the firearms space.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

So post October 7th, there was a massive uptick in Jewish firearms owners and people purchasing and reaching out to me for training and stuff like that.

Speaker C:

And I still think that there is a lot of it going out there.

Speaker C:

The problem is that Jews tend to be very quiet about their gun ownership, Right.

Speaker C:

So they'll buy a gun and then keep it quiet because Jews are a very close knit community.

Speaker C:

So if you are a gun owner and you know, let's say for example, on our Sabbath, right, there's no driving, there's no tv, there's no movies, no video games, nothing like that.

Speaker C:

So we get together with friends a lot, we walk to each other's houses and stuff like that.

Speaker C:

So a lot of Jews tend to be quiet about their gun ownership because they don't want their child to be a pariah saying, oh, like, oh, that family owns guns.

Speaker C:

And you know, we can't, we don't want our kid going there.

Speaker C:

So a lot of them are very quiet.

Speaker C:

My what I'm trying to do is trying to educate Jews saying not only do you have to be pro gun, but you need to stand up for the Second Amendment and you need to be vocal about it because we as Jews should be the most, that should be the loudest voice amplifying and defending the Second Amendment.

Speaker C:

Yet our silence is deafening when it comes to that because we're closet gun owners or we're anti gun.

Speaker C:

And it's something that like, no, you need to, you know, lock arms with Gun Owners of America, FireArms Policy Coalition, Second Amendment foundation and other gun rights organizations and say, hey, no, we want to be part of it.

Speaker C:

We want to be a piece to defend the Second Amendment.

Speaker A:

So I want to go back to something that you kind of briefly touched on, which was the October 7th attacks in Israel.

Speaker A:

And you know, we, we saw kind of on the outside the rearming of a lot of Israeli people.

Speaker A:

You also talked about the gun culture in the U.S. how much of that is reflective on what you all are witnessing from now?

Speaker A:

We're seeing the peace still go through, but beyond that, the struggle that was happening in Israel.

Speaker A:

And how does that, how does that translate to what is happening in the US Communities as far as gun ownership goes?

Speaker C:

So one thing people don't realize is that Israel has absolutely draconian gun laws.

Speaker C:

And we're talking about on par with, you know, California and New Jersey and Connecticut and New York and all those Illinois, they have really harsh gun laws.

Speaker C:

Pre October 7, you were only allowed to own one gun at a time.

Speaker C:

It had to be registered.

Speaker C:

It was only a.

Speaker C:

You were only allowed a handgun and you were only allowed 50 rounds of ammo at any given time in your house.

Speaker C:

You couldn't own more than that post October 7th.

Speaker C:

Now you can own 100 rounds of ammo at any given time in your home, but that's it.

Speaker C:

They, oh, you're not allowed to own a long gun.

Speaker C:

To get a long gun now post October 7th is difficult.

Speaker C:

They give them out, but depends where.

Speaker C:

But if you're a civilian living in Jerusalem, I can't go and say, hey, I want to buy an AR15 for home defense.

Speaker C:

You cannot do that.

Speaker C:

Is illegal.

Speaker C:

So the gun laws in Israel are very different than the gun laws in, in America.

Speaker C:

Now, one thing that I've noticed is that post October 7th, Jews in America weren't necessarily running to get guns, right?

Speaker C:

Because one, it's a completely different country, you know, 5,000 miles away or however many miles away it is, right?

Speaker C:

It completely separate from the Jew, the Jewish mentality in America.

Speaker C:

In America, Jews didn't start getting firearms until, you know, six months after October 7th.

Speaker C:

Maybe not six months, maybe three, four months.

Speaker C:

When you started seeing all of the pro Hamas riots and protests in America.

Speaker C:

When you see these hundreds of thousands of people in favor of a terrorist organization, that's when Jews in America start saying, okay, maybe we need to start arming ourselves because the antisemitism is on our doorstep now.

Speaker C:

It's not, you know, it's not five, 6,000 miles away in Israel.

Speaker C:

It's here in our neighborhoods, in our communities.

Speaker C:

And now we need to step it up and arm ourselves.

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Speaker B:

You brought up something and I want to touch on it.

Speaker B:

You know, we're talking about a lot of people, not only Jews, but a lot of people across the US are very, you know, I own a gun for this reason, for protection, but I'm very closeted gun ownership.

Speaker B:

d we've seen this a lot since:

Speaker B:

A lot of them who did not want to be gun owners decided to buy a gun and Then they were like, well, I bought a gun, but I'm going to keep it quiet.

Speaker B:

I don't want my neighbors to know.

Speaker B:

I don't want my friends to know.

Speaker B:

What kind of advice could you give those people not only outside of the Jewish community, but in the Jewish community to go, hey, let's not make this a stigma, but make this a norm and fight for your, your second amendment rights to encourage others.

Speaker C:

I mean, I think you just need to explain to them very simply that if you don't, if, if you don't defend the second Amendment, it, the second Amendment is more than just owning a gun.

Speaker C:

It's defending an inalienable right of, a God given right of self defense.

Speaker C:

And if you don't stand up for that, then what's the point of owning a gun?

Speaker C:

Right?

Speaker C:

I was, I was at a, I was on a forum one time with Jarrah Hutchins and I know John.

Speaker C:

You know Jarrah, right?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

So I was on, I was on a forum with her and she just did something that blew my mind.

Speaker C:

She, she get, she's sitting down, she's like, okay, there's about 200 people in the room, maybe 150, give or take, I don't know.

Speaker C:

And she's like, okay, who here, you know, supports the second Amendment?

Speaker C:

You know, all the hands go up.

Speaker C:

Who here is a gun owner?

Speaker C:

All the hands go up.

Speaker C:

Who here, you know, carries a gun?

Speaker C:

You know, half the hands go, went up.

Speaker C:

Then she goes, who here in this room right now is carrying a gun on them?

Speaker C:

And besides Jarrah and I, only three hands went up.

Speaker C:

And she just called everyone out.

Speaker C:

She's like, you guys are part of the problem.

Speaker C:

You guys say you support the second Amendment, you guys say you're gun owners, but you're not exercising that right.

Speaker C:

So there's a reason why they come after that right.

Speaker C:

Because when people don't exercise it, it's much easier to take away.

Speaker C:

And that's, that's the story I tell people, is that it's there for a reason.

Speaker C:

You need to use it and you cannot be shy about it because the minute you are, that's when they come for it.

Speaker A:

So you've been on the educational front of the second Amendment for nine years.

Speaker A:

But I want to kind of go back a little bit before that.

Speaker A:

What was the catalyst for you that said, I want to purchase my first gun?

Speaker A:

And then what was the, what was the on ramp for you?

Speaker A:

Because it sounds like that that broke tradition and broke norms, at least in your, your household.

Speaker C:

Well, what's interesting is I grew up, although I didn't grow up watching tv, movies were a big part.

Speaker C:

I grew up in like North Hollywood, right?

Speaker C:

Like talking about Universal Studios was a seven minute drive from my house.

Speaker C:

So I grew up in the Hollywood culture and I loved movies.

Speaker C:

I mean I still love movies and action movies.

Speaker C:

For me that was my jam.

Speaker C:

That for some reason I was just always interested in action movies and to shoot them up in the explosions in the guns.

Speaker C:

And I never thought I was a spoiled little LA boy.

Speaker C:

I didn't care about politics, I didn't care about the Constitution.

Speaker C:

It meant nothing to me.

Speaker C:

And eventually I started.

Speaker C:

It was probably:

Speaker C:

I'm like, oh, maybe it's, I should start paying attention to this kind of stuff.

Speaker C:

And one thing led to another.

Speaker C:

My buddy took me to the range and he was like, oh, here are all my guns.

Speaker C:

I'm like, who the hell are you?

Speaker C:

What, like what is going on right now?

Speaker C:

Like, where did you come from?

Speaker C:

You're one of my best friends.

Speaker C:

I had no idea you were, you owned like all these guns.

Speaker C:

And I always thought that the only people that were allowed to own guns were police officers, military and bad guys, right?

Speaker C:

Like, I didn't, I didn't know civilians were allowed to own firearms because again, I was a spoiled LA boy, didn't care about the second amendment.

Speaker C:

One thing led to another and I started studying and educating myself and I was like, holy cow, like I'm allowed to own a gun.

Speaker C:

So there was no real catalyst.

Speaker C:

It's not like I was attacked or there was no anti Semitic attack, there was nothing.

Speaker C:

It was just like my first gun I bought.

Speaker C:

And I'm, I'm not gonna say I'm ashamed to admit it because it still is cool.

Speaker C:

But I was like, no, I want to be buy a gun because it's freaking cool as hell to own one.

Speaker C:

And, and obviously my mind, I still think it's cool that we can own guns, but obviously my mind has shifted drastically to the more, you know, educational and the, the advocacy side of the second amendment.

Speaker C:

But I bought my first gun in L. A and yeah, it was as simple as that.

Speaker A:

I think there's some key points that, that really, I think encourage people who are listening to this that have friends, family, the oftentimes what takes somebody from either not caring about the second amendment, thinking that it doesn't apply to them or just being completely, you know, politically agnostic is inviting them to the range, taking them on the first experience because you know, we often can find ourselves as members of the Second Amendment community as kind of going through the motions that we know, you know, always on red alert for what's happening in Congress, what's happening on our state level, or find ourselves, you know, purchasing a gun with the, the mindset of self defense, home defense, hunting, that sometimes we forget the obvious, that participating in your Second Amendment right is fundamentally fun to go train and to, you know, be that badass where you know that you can't protect yourself.

Speaker A:

But oftentimes what made us enjoy the, the shooting sports to begin with is just going to the range with friends and finding our community.

Speaker B:

I couldn't have said it better.

Speaker B:

I've got a. Oh, it's a strange question for you.

Speaker B:

You grew up in North Hollywood in the la.

Speaker B:

You, your family didn't.

Speaker B:

If you guys were more into guns before, during.

Speaker B:

There was a lot of things that were impacting people at that time when you were growing up.

Speaker B:

So you had the LA riots, you had the North Hollywood shootout.

Speaker B:

Why do you think those things didn't impact that, that community to, to arm themselves or.

Speaker B:

And kind of because it ties in with what you said.

Speaker B:

Like you grew up there, guns weren't a thing.

Speaker B:

You thought police officers and, and, and were only allowed to own guns and things like that.

Speaker B:

Why do you think that impact you and why did you think have that like, kind of thought process with everything that was going around in LA while you were growing up?

Speaker C:

Because Jews don't care about what's going on unless it directly affects them.

Speaker C:

And again, maybe that's not just a Jewish thing.

Speaker C:

I'm sure that that's a lot of people thing actually.

Speaker C:

So I shouldn't say just Jews, but Jews tend to.

Speaker C:

Again, even with all the anti Semitism going on in the country, I'm still fighting an uphill battle educating and trying to convince Jews to purchase firearms and train and learn.

Speaker C:

So even more so if you just have like, the North Hollywood shootout was seven blocks away from my house.

Speaker C:

I mean, I remember it was Friday, February 28th.

Speaker C:

I remember getting into the car at the end of the day for school and my, and we, my mom turned on the radio and we heard all the police chatter and I mean, they were playing all that.

Speaker C:

And I mean, I remember that.

Speaker C:

I remember it happened Friday, that Sunday we happened to drive by the bank and I remember seeing all the bullet holes and I mean, it was, it was crazy.

Speaker C:

So even though it was seven blocks away from my house, it didn't affect us necessarily.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker C:

It was between the police and two bank robbers.

Speaker C:

That's it.

Speaker C:

So that won't wake people up, or at least it won't wake up the people in my old community to say, hey, maybe it's time that we look out for people, for ourselves, because we have to be our own first responders.

Speaker C:

I think that that's the reason is that it's not, it's not affecting us directly.

Speaker C:

And same thing with the LA riots, right?

Speaker C:

The LA riots, although, although in certain areas of la did direct, did directly affect people.

Speaker C:

It wasn't like it was an anti Semitic attack.

Speaker C:

It was just like, oh, there's riots right now.

Speaker C:

Doesn't really have anything to do with us.

Speaker C:

It's just kind of spilling over.

Speaker C:

So we'll just lock our doors and be safe that way.

Speaker C:

Right?

Speaker C:

So it's, it's a, it's a mentality that I think a lot of people have just, I think it's the wrong mentality.

Speaker B:

Now you also said you, you purchased your first gun in la.

Speaker B:

You know, you live in Texas now, you're in a much freer state.

Speaker B:

What was that kind of experience as well as being a first time gun owner in la, buying your gun there and then going to Texas and seeing a totally different process?

Speaker C:

Oh, that was great.

Speaker C:

That was a lot of fun.

Speaker C:

I remember, you know, buying my first handgun in la.

Speaker C:

I went to the gun store and I had to felt like a 25 question multiple choice test just to get a license to own a gun.

Speaker C:

Once you do that, you picked up the gun, you had to wait the 10 days and then you went and picked it up in Texas.

Speaker C:

Within a few days of me moving here, I had a California compliant AR15 and I walked into a gun store that had a gunsmith and I walked to the gunsmith and he says, what can I do for you?

Speaker C:

And I said, well, I have my AR15 here.

Speaker C:

I just moved from California, you know, a few days ago.

Speaker C:

He's like, all right, let me have it.

Speaker C:

And I didn't even have to tell him to take out the bullet button.

Speaker C:

He knew exactly why I was there.

Speaker C:

And he just, he's like, man, welcome to Texas.

Speaker C:

I'm not even charging you.

Speaker C:

This is my gift to you.

Speaker C:

And I'm like, oh, wow, so I don't need the bullet button anymore.

Speaker C:

He's like, no.

Speaker C:

And then I turned to him, I'm like, I said, you know, in California you're only around, you're only allowed 10 round magazines.

Speaker C:

I'm like, do you guys happen to sell 30 rounders and he's like, yeah, they're up front.

Speaker C:

He goes, and just to let you know, if you want to get something more than 30 rounds, we have like those 100 drum magazines.

Speaker C:

And I'm like, I'm like, I am going to be very happy in Texas.

Speaker C:

So that was kind of my introduction to gun life in Texas.

Speaker A:

That's awesome.

Speaker A:

And, and I'm sure that there was more than just gun rights that brought you from California to Texas, but I think that it is so, it's so exciting for, for us because, you know, we, we are on the, the national stage.

Speaker A:

So we've talked to everybody constantly, from gun owners in New Jersey and New York to California.

Speaker A:

And it never gets old, the excitement behind people's story from when they get to own the gun that they dreamed of having but couldn't have in a previous state, or the ability to have standard capacity magazines, or the security that they feel being able to have their freedom restored simply by moving.

Speaker A:

And that's not saying that if you're in New Jersey or California, you shouldn't be fighting for your second amendment rights.

Speaker A:

Quite the opposite.

Speaker A:

But it's one of those things where it never gets old when somebody tells their story and you see the excitement on their face and, and hopefully it'll be something that we'll all be able to share as hopefully we win our lawsuit, our big beautiful lawsuit to get rid of the NFA, when we can all go and buy suppressors and SVRs and all of the things that we want as gun owners and we get to have that capability as well.

Speaker A:

But it's those moments that never get old for me.

Speaker B:

Listen, I learned a lot about California not too long ago and it's driving me insane just thinking of all the stuff, all the hoops you have to drive up, go through, you don't see that's the thing, like as somebody who's lived in a freedom state, so you move from California to a freedom state, where you go coming from a freedom state to then learning about California more.

Speaker B:

Because in my mind it's just like, ask California, they do their own thing, like we'll fight, but they're, you know, move to a free state and you, you get to experience all the awesomeness.

Speaker B:

But then learning about all the things that actually go on in California when, when you start diving in deeper and deeper, like, yeah, you all need to fight.

Speaker C:

Being who I am in the industry and, and the perks that come with that, you know, I'll constantly be sending my friends like me shooting full auto and Tannerite and all that stuff.

Speaker C:

Like all my friends in California, New York and Illinois, I'm like, hey guys, look what I did today.

Speaker C:

And they're like, no, F you.

Speaker C:

You know, like, we hate you.

Speaker C:

You suck.

Speaker C:

You know, like, I'm like, yeah, well, you guys suck even more because you don't get to play with the toys.

Speaker C:

I get to.

Speaker C:

So, yeah, it's a lot of fun to rub it into.

Speaker B:

Let's dive into your author.

Speaker B:

You became an author, you've written a number of books, a lot of children's books.

Speaker B:

My personal favorite book has no writing in it at all.

Speaker B:

So kind of dive in.

Speaker B:

What made you expand?

Speaker B:

You talked about why you wrote the book, why have you expanded the books?

Speaker B:

You know, how has the reception been from people in and outside of the industry, People in your own community, you know, all around.

Speaker C:

So I expanded the books because again, I've always enjoyed creative writing and I'm also an ideas person.

Speaker C:

So if, if, even though my first, you know, five books were all kids books, if I decide if an idea pops into my mind, like John, your favorite book, bullet Points, why would I not run with that?

Speaker C:

You know, like I, I can expand what I, I can't even say I can expand what I write because I didn't write that book I just compiled.

Speaker C:

I don't even know, I don't even know if compiled is the right word to say, but published a, a book like Bullet Points, you know, the idea popped into my head.

Speaker C:

I'm like, you know, that would be funny.

Speaker C:

And also, you know, like we, I said earlier that you agree with me, our industry takes themselves too seriously.

Speaker C:

So I decided to not just troll the left and the anti gunners, I decided to troll the entire industry and boy did I do that.

Speaker C:

So it was just kind of like I'm an ideas guy.

Speaker C:

If I, if I think of an idea that I think would be a fun idea to create and that might throw some money into my pocket, why not do it?

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Today it is time for our segment, my personal favorite segment which is from the Soapbox.

Speaker A:

The time that we take a spicier take on what is happening in the world and gun culture and really just about anything.

Speaker A:

And so I'm going to throw it over to to you, Yehuda.

Speaker A:

What is your spicy take?

Speaker C:

Yeah, 100%.

Speaker C:

People always ask me what my favorite gun company is.

Speaker C:

Not what my favorite gun is, but what my favorite gun company is.

Speaker C:

And they look at me like I'm fresh off the boat, you know, like maybe right out of the mental institution.

Speaker C:

When I say my favorite gun company is High Point.

Speaker C:

They look at me like I'm insane.

Speaker C:

And I tell them straight out, I said, you find another company that really knows its place, understands the guns they sell and are insanely successful at it.

Speaker C:

All the while joking about who they are with everybody else in the industry.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker C:

High Point is the only company that is willing to joke about themselves because they are so secure in what they do and their guns and who they sell their guns to that they don't take themselves seriously.

Speaker C:

And I freaking love High Point for that.

Speaker B:

Dave, if you're watching, we love you.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

No, I 100% agree.

Speaker B:

High Point is the one they, the people over at High Point are fantastic.

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Kara and Dave and Charlie and everybody over there are just fantastic human beings to talk to and work with.

Speaker B:

And if you haven't done so I'm doing a plug right now because I can.

Speaker B:

If you haven't done so go buy your Goa High Point carbine.

Speaker B:

They're for sale.

Speaker B:

There's three models.

Speaker B:

There's the 9 mil, the.45 and the 10 mil.

Speaker B:

There is no tax on them and free shipping.

Speaker B:

Go to a linky somewhere because I can't say it here.

Speaker B:

Brandon.

Speaker B:

Editors, mute.

Speaker B:

Mute this part on YouTube.

Speaker B:

Go to shootammo.com to go get your Goa high point.

Speaker B:

So I'm gonna plug it away.

Speaker B:

It's gotta be muted on YouTube because YouTube is mean to us if we say websites.

Speaker B:

No, I 100% agree.

Speaker B:

There's a lot of.

Speaker B:

There was a.

Speaker B:

There.

Speaker B:

The only other company that I would applaud and unfortunately they're no longer with us.

Speaker B:

Sounds like they died.

Speaker B:

Died.

Speaker B:

But the company is Anderson.

Speaker B:

Anderson was the same way.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

You know, they built for the Everyman.

Speaker B:

And I think that that is an issue.

Speaker B:

And it's.

Speaker B:

I don't say it's getting better, but it seems depending on who you talk to, it's getting better.

Speaker B:

But there's a lot of the legacy companies who will, you know, the.

Speaker B:

Depending on who you talk to from that company, it's a lot like, well, we're this and we're this is why we do this.

Speaker B:

Because we're this or they're, they're very.

Speaker B:

If you try to be light hearted with them or something.

Speaker B:

Well, we're, we don't like that.

Speaker B:

We're as High Point.

Speaker B:

They know exactly who they are.

Speaker B:

You know, there's a lot of companies out there who know exactly who they are and want to have fun.

Speaker B:

And I think that's a point that I'd like to pass on to all these companies and industry people who may be listening is you need to have fun and make fun of yourselves every once in a while.

Speaker B:

And one of my favorite make fun of themselves and kind of do a meme that turned.

Speaker B:

There's a couple ones that did a meme that turned into something.

Speaker B:

Stephanie over at Springfield did a cow print gun for April Fools and did not get approval for it and it turned into a meme and they actually made it because people wanted it.

Speaker B:

And the other one was Langdon Tactical, who's a sponsor of the show, made a meme of a optics cut on one of the Beretta 32 tip barrels and that turned into a gun.

Speaker B:

So you gotta have fun.

Speaker B:

You can't always be serious because if you're always serious, you know, you're just pushing away certain people in the, in the community because again, guns are serious.

Speaker B:

They can be dangerous if not treated properly.

Speaker B:

But also you need, they're fun.

Speaker B:

You need to have fun with it.

Speaker B:

That's my point.

Speaker C:

Well, I'll tell you, I've been working on the high point and John, maybe you can push, push, push it home.

Speaker C:

But I have been trying so hard to get High Point to do a yeet cannon with me, a collaboration like a Pew Pew Ju Yeet cannon.

Speaker C:

And it would come, you know, a suppressed barrel and then a normal barrel and we would call it because I'm Jewish, the circumcised and the uncircumcised.

Speaker B:

I love that.

Speaker C:

Which I think would sell so well.

Speaker B:

What I need is somebody.

Speaker B:

I brought this up to another company and they told me no, and I brought it up to Dave, and Dave thought it was hilarious.

Speaker B:

We need somebody to make a purple yeet cannon holster and call it the Purple Yeeter Eater.

Speaker C:

Oh, I can get someone to do that.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Think about it.

Speaker B:

It's the Purple Yeeter Eater.

Speaker B:

What are you putting in your yeet cannon?

Speaker B:

It's eating it.

Speaker B:

It's a holster.

Speaker B:

The Purple Yeeter Eater.

Speaker B:

I free idea to anybody out there who's a holster company.

Speaker B:

But again, see, that's the whole point.

Speaker B:

We could have fun with it.

Speaker B:

Kaylee is over here dying of laughter.

Speaker B:

She's like, what?

Speaker B:

But like, that's the thing.

Speaker B:

Like, you can have fun with it.

Speaker B:

Like, speaking of fun, John, just quickly.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

You remember what I walk around with at shot show?

Speaker B:

Yes, I was just gonna bring that up.

Speaker C:

I have a bagel holster.

Speaker C:

Because all Jews need bagels.

Speaker C:

I literally walk around shot show with a bagel holster.

Speaker C:

And.

Speaker C:

And the looks I get.

Speaker C:

It's fun.

Speaker C:

It's.

Speaker C:

You need to not take yourself so seriously.

Speaker C:

And just in.

Speaker C:

I mean, let's be honest, we work in the coolest industry in the world.

Speaker C:

Where else do you get to hang out with people who are, you know, patriots, like minded individuals about freedom, like minded individuals about guns.

Speaker C:

We get to shoot guns for a living and talk about guns for a living.

Speaker C:

Like, why are you taking yourself so seriously?

Speaker C:

Have fun with it.

Speaker C:

Roll with it.

Speaker B:

Well, and that brings up a great point.

Speaker B:

Because there was a point about six or seven months ago, I was at a range day and somebody walked up, I was walking by a booth, and someone's like, oh, come and shoot my MP5 full auto.

Speaker B:

And I'm like, no, I'm good.

Speaker B:

And they're like, what do you mean?

Speaker B:

Like, it's a full auto mp5, that's fine.

Speaker B:

I'm like, well, I've only done it like 400 times.

Speaker B:

Let somebody else do it because they'll have.

Speaker B:

And he's like, I'll give you a full mag.

Speaker B:

And there was somebody like, behind me who's like, oh, I've never shot a full auto MP5.

Speaker B:

I'm like, here, take my full mag.

Speaker B:

Go up and have fun.

Speaker B:

Because it sounds pretentious that, like, I don't want to shoot a full auto.

Speaker B:

But, like, I've done it so many times now and I've had so much fun.

Speaker B:

Like, it's time for somebody else to do it to have fun besides me.

Speaker B:

I know that's gonna sound really weird.

Speaker B:

That, like, what is wrong with you?

Speaker B:

You're turning down a full auto mp5.

Speaker B:

But as I've been doing this for so long and been shooting so much, like, there are only certain guns now that are full auto that get me super excited.

Speaker B:

Like P90, MP7, anything.

Speaker B:

World War II, full auto, like, that gets me excited.

Speaker B:

Like, weird things I haven't shot yet that are full auto that get me excited.

Speaker B:

But now I see it, like, I can pass that on to somebody else and be like, oh, you haven't done this.

Speaker B:

Like, if you're gonna give it to me because we're friends, I appreciate it, but let me, like, give it to the next guy who's been waiting in line who's super excited.

Speaker B:

And I know that sounds jaded and people are gonna be like, wow, you're weird.

Speaker B:

But it, it's just as you keep going, like, people, people have been like, what are you doing with.

Speaker B:

You go to all these events?

Speaker B:

Like, you got to have fun.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah, they're fun, they're great.

Speaker B:

Well, whatever.

Speaker B:

What, you know, you shot, you shot a full auto mp5.

Speaker B:

Well, I've only done it like a hundred times now or 70 times.

Speaker B:

Like, and it, it's weird from my end now, it's because I've been in doing this so long that I turn stuff away, but at the same time, like, I pass it on to the next person or if it's something like, like HK the One Time had like, they had a P7 and a VP70 at their booth and I wanted to shoot their old stuff.

Speaker B:

And the guy looked at me like, you don't want to shoot all our new stuff?

Speaker B:

I'm like, no, those are cool to me because they're old and I haven't shot that yet.

Speaker C:

Well, I'll tell you, for my, for my 40th birthday two years ago, the range that I frequent that I use as my home range is a small hole in the wall range called Mr.

Speaker C:

Guns out here in Plano, Texas.

Speaker C:

And it's, it's a mom and pop range.

Speaker C:

It's awesome.

Speaker C:

But they have a bunch of full autos you can rent.

Speaker C:

So for my 40th birthday, they called me up, they're like, hey, come to the range.

Speaker C:

We have something for you.

Speaker C:

And they take me into the range, and I'm not lying, they had two fully auto Uzis with full mags.

Speaker C:

And I, for my birth as a Birthday present.

Speaker C:

They let me shoot dual wielding, two Uzis, full auto.

Speaker C:

And I'm like, that is like, the greatest birthday present.

Speaker C:

And, like, I have a friend who called me like, hey, man, I just shot an Uzi.

Speaker C:

I'm like, yeah, big deal.

Speaker C:

I shot two at once.

Speaker C:

You know, like.

Speaker A:

Like.

Speaker C:

Like, who cares, right?

Speaker C:

Like, big deal.

Speaker C:

Good for you.

Speaker C:

You shot.

Speaker C:

You shot a fully auto Uzi.

Speaker C:

So I don't know it.

Speaker C:

I think I like.

Speaker C:

I like what you're saying, John.

Speaker C:

I like the idea of, like, yeah, we've done it so many times.

Speaker C:

I've shot so many full auto.

Speaker C:

I mean, I've shot a mod deuce suppressed.

Speaker C:

Like, who does that?

Speaker C:

Like, no one shoots a full auto, you know, fully auto, mod deuce suppressed.

Speaker C:

So it's like, just pass it on to the next guy.

Speaker C:

Let someone else have that fun.

Speaker C:

We been there, done that.

Speaker C:

I mean, I'm going to Vegas tomorrow for a huge range day on Thursday.

Speaker C:

So I'm like, I don't know what they're gonna have there.

Speaker B:

But, you know, say hi to Matt while you're there, because Matt will be there.

Speaker B:

Okay, here.

Speaker B:

Here's where I. I really.

Speaker B:

This is what get.

Speaker B:

So we have a girl who worked for us.

Speaker B:

I won't say her name because I don't want to call people out, but she went.

Speaker B:

We were at the gathering, and we were talking to Barrett, and they're like, do you want to shoot a mile?

Speaker B:

I'm like, well, I've shot a mile already, but, yeah, I'll hop on the gun and shoot a mile.

Speaker B:

She hadn't shot more than, like, 100 yards or 300 yards or whatever she qualified on in the military.

Speaker B:

And she's like, okay, I'm gonna shoot the mile.

Speaker B:

She shot the mile, hit the target.

Speaker B:

She still talks about it to this day.

Speaker B:

Every.

Speaker B:

She's like, I hit the mile.

Speaker B:

And she'll bring it up to people around us.

Speaker B:

Like, I hit the mile.

Speaker B:

Have you hit a mile?

Speaker B:

They're like, no.

Speaker B:

She's like, I did.

Speaker B:

And it is because those are experiences that, you know, you.

Speaker B:

You go to range day, you shoot it 15ft, but.

Speaker B:

Or 20ft or whatever it is, depending on what it is.

Speaker B:

Or you shoot a full auto.

Speaker B:

Like, those little experiences like shooting the mile and doing that.

Speaker B:

Like, those are things that you go around and talk to people about.

Speaker B:

And you're like, yeah, I hit a mile.

Speaker B:

Or, yeah, I did this.

Speaker B:

And it's just.

Speaker B:

It's so funny now that I'm like, I'm more happy for her than I was for myself because I was like, yeah, I did it again.

Speaker B:

Whoop.

Speaker B:

And then she's super excited.

Speaker B:

I'm like, yeah, you did it.

Speaker A:

Woo.

Speaker B:

Like I'm more.

Speaker B:

That's, that's where I'm at.

Speaker A:

It all goes back to what we started out at the beginning of this conversation in and that's this.

Speaker A:

Taking someone to the range is always going to be the best on ramp to get them interested, involved and ready to take the next step.

Speaker A:

And the more opportunities that you have that you're able to pass on to somebody, the better off the community is.

Speaker A:

It's how we build momentum for things.

Speaker A:

It's how we build momentum so that we can hopefully get the nfa, you know, get, get.

Speaker A:

Not get the NFA get.

Speaker A:

It's how we get momentum.

Speaker A:

I'm going to sorry editors again.

Speaker A:

It's how we get momentum so that we can fight things like the nfa, so that we can have suppressors, so that we can have SVR, so we can have SBSs, so that we can have these things more readily available.

Speaker A:

Because as more and more people realize how awesome it is to shoot these things then the more they're willing to go out and buy them and they're going to bring in a new group and that's how we continue to spread the second Amendment.

Speaker A:

And so it's awesome that you were able to give that individual who called me by the way after that shot the opportunity to shoot the mile because that was an experience, something that she's going to carry on and guess what?

Speaker A:

The next time that she has the opportunity, she's going to be looking for the next person in line to give that opportunity to as well.

Speaker A:

And that's how we sharpen our skills.

Speaker A:

That's how we recommend trainers, that's how we recommend firearms.

Speaker A:

It's how so many people get into the community is because somebody has had the experience that and is willing to pass the baton on to the next person.

Speaker A:

And it's why we can say firmly that as long as, as we as a second amendment community are open and willing to go into and have conversations with people who might be anti gun or politically agnostic or just, you know, what are you talking about?

Speaker A:

You know, maybe gun interested or gun aware but not active involved, we can truly change hearts and minds.

Speaker A:

And it's, it's simple and it goes back to basics.

Speaker A:

And I think that's why it works.

Speaker A:

I think that's why we constantly find ourselves wanting to participate in events, is because we're looking for how to get the next group of people involved and that's important.

Speaker B:

Also, whatever you do, don't shoot long range because it's addicting and you'll get addicted and want to do it more and more and more.

Speaker A:

I think that's why you should actually.

Speaker A:

I think, I think that.

Speaker B:

But that's.

Speaker A:

Yes, but I think that's a feature, not a bug.

Speaker B:

Have you shot long range at Yahudu?

Speaker C:

No, not really.

Speaker C:

I mean, I've shot, you know, precision rifles, but I haven't really gotten into the long range shooting.

Speaker C:

It's on my bucket list to do the mile shot.

Speaker C:

I have not done that.

Speaker C:

So I need to find someone and make a trip out to someone where, you know, they'll, they'll do it with me because that, that's something on the bucket list.

Speaker B:

It is one of those things when you hit the dopamine hit is so strong that you want to do it over and over again.

Speaker B:

I still, I took one long range class and now I have my long range set up and I start, I've, I've done more and more because I can go out where I'm at now.

Speaker B:

We can go out to about a thousand.

Speaker B:

So I'll shoot at a thousand.

Speaker B:

And at first a thousand sounds like this big number, but now when you're out there and you hear a, you fire the shot and about like four or five seconds later you hear ding.

Speaker B:

You're like, ah, yes, we are getting.

Speaker A:

The wrap up sign.

Speaker A:

So Farner, would you like to do the gift for our guest?

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

As a thank you for being on our show, AAC and Palmetto State Armory is sponsored our gift for our guests this season.

Speaker B:

So you'll be receiving an email to get that gift for our guest over to you.

Speaker C:

Sweet.

Speaker C:

Thank you so much.

Speaker C:

I appreciate that.

Speaker A:

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