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Seven years in, I'm still discovering the people
Speaker:quietly doing the work that holds this community together.
Speaker:Sometimes that means watching a beloved local institution take a
Speaker:pause and then come roaring back with a fresh look, a new
Speaker:energy, and the exact same heart that made it matter
Speaker:in the first place. Danielle Keller is one of those people.
Speaker:She's a serial entrepreneur, filmmaker,
Speaker:podcaster, and now the owner and editor in
Speaker:chief of Peekaboo magazine, a resource packed with local
Speaker:stories, expert voices, and the kind of community love
Speaker:that keeps Northwest Arkansas families connected.
Speaker:Peekaboo was originally founded in February 2008
Speaker:by Kimberly Enderley. For over a decade, it was a
Speaker:digest sized fixture used you'd find thrown into
Speaker:diaper bags all across the region. Then in 2020
Speaker:hit and like a lot of things, it had to pause.
Speaker:Now it's back under Danielle and her husband, Jeff.
Speaker:Peekaboo officially returned in August 2025.
Speaker:A larger format, Premium matte finish, and an
Speaker:intentional commitment to high quality print and a world that
Speaker:keeps telling us print is dead. Danielle also co hosts
Speaker:the People of Northwest Arkansas podcast, which gives her a rare
Speaker:dual lens on what makes this community tick, both as
Speaker:a media maker and as a neighbor who's
Speaker:genuinely invested in the stories here. We talk a lot on
Speaker:this show about how fast our region is growing and what it actually
Speaker:takes to preserve our soul through that growth.
Speaker:There's no better person to dig into that question with
Speaker:than a media leader who's betting on it with her own time,
Speaker:her own money, and her own family. Coming up
Speaker:next, my conversation with Danielle Keller.
Speaker:It's time for another episode of I Am Northwest
Speaker:Arkansas, the podcast covering the intersection of
Speaker:business card culture, entrepreneurship and life in
Speaker:general here in the Ozarks. Whether you are considering a
Speaker:move to this area or trying to learn more about the place you call
Speaker:home, we've got something special for you. Here's
Speaker:our host, Randy Wilbur.
Speaker:Danielle Keller. Welcome to I Am Northwest Arkansas. Thank you,
Speaker:Randy. It's so exciting to be here finally. I know, I know.
Speaker:We've been working on this for a while. It's so funny. Nobody, nobody ever sees
Speaker:the sausage being made, right? And I know as a podcaster you can
Speaker:appreciate what goes in behind the scenes. To actually get in front
Speaker:of a mic. Yes, it's crazy. It sometimes takes a lot
Speaker:of planning, waiting, patience,
Speaker:rescheduling, all of the things that go into it. Yeah, well,
Speaker:you've been patient with me. We've worked it out and we're finally here.
Speaker:So I love that and I want to jump right into this because I have
Speaker:so many questions for you. You been doing so much in our community.
Speaker:You've described northwest Arkansas as this massive
Speaker:melting pot of transplants and transients, people who
Speaker:landed here by circumstance and ended up staying by choice. I feel like I'm
Speaker:one of those people. Same. When your family moved from
Speaker:Modesto, California, back around 2004, you
Speaker:were skeptical. What flipped it for you? What made you go
Speaker:from why Arkansas To. To somebody who now tells
Speaker:those stories for a living? That's a really great question. So my
Speaker:parents moved out here in 2004. My sisters and I, we weren't
Speaker:living at home anymore, and we kind of thought, what are you guys doing?
Speaker:Like, why are you moving to Arkansas? And they fell in love with the area.
Speaker:They fell in love with northwest Arkansas specifically. And I came
Speaker:out to visit. I honestly, I will.
Speaker:I'll be honest. I came in June of 2004,
Speaker:and it rained pretty much the whole time I was there or
Speaker:here. And I wasn't super impressed with it. I was like, I don't know, this
Speaker:place is hot. It's very humid. There's not a
Speaker:lot to do. You know, My parents were in Siloam Springs at the time, and
Speaker:there wasn't even a movie theater there. And I thought, what on earth? What are
Speaker:you guys doing? But they had a great house, great property.
Speaker:And then I went back to California, and I was kind of in between
Speaker:places in my life as far as work, career, job,
Speaker:school. And I ended up going back to college,
Speaker:and my mom had just, you know, as moms do, she put me on
Speaker:the mailing list for John Brown University, of course, because,
Speaker:you know, that's what moms do. And I was like, mom, I'm not
Speaker:ever moving to Arkansas. It's not happening. It's
Speaker:just not. And one day I was cleaning my apartment, and I
Speaker:came across this video that had been sent to me. It was like a
Speaker:DVD video of John Brown University. And I was
Speaker:kind of at a place like, I don't know what I'm doing next. Where do
Speaker:I want to go? And I was like, you know what? I'm just going to
Speaker:watch this and just kind of see what it's all about. And I was
Speaker:surprised at how awesome it looked and that it had
Speaker:opportunity for me to study film. At the time, I was finishing
Speaker:up my associate's degree in film and TV production, and I was like,
Speaker:oh, this school has a film program, an art program, and it seems
Speaker:pretty vigorous. And, okay, well, I'll check it out. I'll Apply. So I
Speaker:applied. I got accepted within a week or two weeks or something like that. And
Speaker:then a couple months later, I was moving to Arkansas. So it was a
Speaker:wild experience. And all my friends were like, what? What are you doing?
Speaker:I was like, well, I'm going back to school, going to go live with my
Speaker:parents again, and I'm going to finish college. And it was just a wild
Speaker:journey. And so I came back, transferred to JBU in January
Speaker:2005, and I was going to be a double major. I was going to do
Speaker:youth ministry and digital media arts cinema. Ended up dropping
Speaker:the major and just did the digital media arts cinema with a minor in youth
Speaker:ministry. Went there for five semesters, finished, had
Speaker:a great time, got really involved on campus, did a lot of
Speaker:activities. Actually got to plan the first dance that ever happened at jbu. It was
Speaker:a very. I mean, it was a very. It was a lot of fun. I
Speaker:was in the New York Times, like, goodness. It was a really great experience.
Speaker:And then I went back to California to try to make it in, like,
Speaker:TV or film production. I was looking at different writers rooms. So I've always had
Speaker:a love for writing. Wrote for my school paper in high school and then in
Speaker:early college. And so I've always wanted to go back to that. And
Speaker:just got out there at perfect time. There was a writer's strike hitting, and then
Speaker:just worked a lot of random jobs. And one of the jobs I ended up
Speaker:working was working on a film that was produced and
Speaker:directed by JBU alumni. And that was kind of
Speaker:my connection back to jbu. And so we
Speaker:worked on the film. And then I came back to Northwest Arkansas to
Speaker:visit my family after we'd kind of wrapped some of the filming.
Speaker:And I was at the student center of jvu, and they offered me
Speaker:a job. They came out, they said, hey, this position opened. It was
Speaker:my old boss's job when I was a student. And that's what pulled
Speaker:me back to Northwest Arkansas, was a job at John
Speaker:Brown University. And so I worked at JBU for about eight years and
Speaker:did a variety of things. Oversaw student
Speaker:leadership, student activities, orientation. Got to plan some
Speaker:really fun concerts with students. It was a great experience. And then I met my
Speaker:husband, and then we ended up moving to Bentonville, and I ended up
Speaker:stepping away from my job at jbu. I'm trying to tell this really fast because
Speaker:I could go into a lot of details. Oh, no. Well, this is interesting. I
Speaker:mean, it's kind of the overarching. Yeah. A lot of people don't Know this part
Speaker:of my story because so much has just happened over
Speaker:the amount of time that I've lived here. I mean, overall, I've
Speaker:essentially been in northwest Arkansas for 20 years. There was like about a
Speaker:little over a year that I wasn't here and I was back in California. And
Speaker:so there's just. There's so many things that have happened as a result of
Speaker:that. I remember one of the things that was really kind of
Speaker:pivotal for me in getting back into media was the Bentonville
Speaker:Film Festival. And. And I remember they announced was
Speaker:the very first film festival happened when I had a. When I had a newborn
Speaker:baby sitting on my lap. Not sitting, laying,
Speaker:sleeping, nursing. And so I didn't get to attend the first one, but I was
Speaker:really excited. And the next year, next year we were already living in
Speaker:Bentonville. And so I'd stepped away. Was kind of being a stay at home
Speaker:mom, had a two year old and a newborn or a baby. And
Speaker:I ended up volunteering, kind of just trying to figure out
Speaker:what I was going to do next. And I was kind of starting to dip
Speaker:my foot back into media and TV production and video
Speaker:production and all the things. And then in 2017,
Speaker:at the Bentonville Film Festival, I met some women
Speaker:who had made this incredible film. It was
Speaker:just so remarkable. And it was about World War II and it had to do
Speaker:with Nazi Germany. And it was just this very. Just,
Speaker:I mean, like a very deep story. It was really. I wish I could remember
Speaker:the name of it because it had an impact and these women had an impact
Speaker:on me. And I remember telling them, I'm turning 40 this summer
Speaker:and the ship has sailed. And they were like, we're in our
Speaker:50s. The ship is not sailed for you. No, it is not.
Speaker:And you need to get back into it. And so that was a huge
Speaker:turning point for me. This was 2017. This was 2017. It was
Speaker:a wake up call. You met your halftime moment. I did. And you
Speaker:had some people kind of speak into you. It's always funny how
Speaker:individuals that are older than you have that
Speaker:collective wisdom and just the ability to kind of give
Speaker:you what you need to hear at that moment. Right. Because
Speaker:I read a book a long time ago when I was about to turn
Speaker:40 called halftime by a man named Bob Buford. And
Speaker:he postulates in that book simply that your best years
Speaker:are ahead of you, especially if you've lived a half life, because it's like you've
Speaker:figured out everything. You've made all the mistakes that you can make.
Speaker:Now you can start to move into a place of being an expert.
Speaker:Right. And I'm using air quotes now, but it's like you're finally
Speaker:figuring things out, because we all like to think, oh, well, yeah,
Speaker:you know, if you don't figure things out by your 20s or early 30s, then
Speaker:you're lost. And, I mean, it is a long game that
Speaker:we're playing here. I say that all the time to people when we talk on
Speaker:this podcast, but I sometimes have to be reminded of that. So hearing your
Speaker:story reminds me that you have to play the long game. Yes,
Speaker:I agree wholeheartedly. And I think that a lot of people. I agree with you.
Speaker:And a lot of people think they have to have life figured out in their
Speaker:20s and 30s, and that's just not true. And I think
Speaker:that some people think you have to figure out what you want to do for
Speaker:the rest of your life, and then you just keep doing it. And that's not
Speaker:true either. You know, it's okay to pivot. It's okay to change
Speaker:direction, even if it's just a slight pivot.
Speaker:Sometimes it can be a big pivot, and sometimes it can just be a really
Speaker:small one. I really appreciate people that have spoken into me over
Speaker:many, many years of my life. And I've always had a
Speaker:mentor in my life. I've always had people just encouraging me.
Speaker:I always loved those teachers that pushed me really hard.
Speaker:When I was at the junior college in Modesto and was getting my
Speaker:associates in film and TV production, the woman had in
Speaker:charge of that department. I mean, she was tough. She was
Speaker:really tough. And, like, so many students hated her. They did not like
Speaker:her because she pushed and pushed and pushed, and she is the
Speaker:reason I do what I do. Like, she really
Speaker:encouraged me in so many ways because I was like, yeah, okay, I will
Speaker:rise to that challenge. I will go after what you're trying to tell me, and
Speaker:I will go and do better, and I will take this little thing
Speaker:that I've learned and improve it because you're pushing me. And I've
Speaker:always appreciated people like that. And so when people are saying, like, no, it's not
Speaker:too late, I'm like, all right, game on. Challenge accepted. Let's go.
Speaker:And that keeps happening, Randy. Well, I like that.
Speaker:And you know what that's called, what that teacher did to you.
Speaker:It's a form of refinement. And I always like to
Speaker:say it's kind of like the refining fire. When you think of, like, any
Speaker:metallurgy, gold, silver, any of that, none of that
Speaker:gold never presents itself in its final form. Right.
Speaker:It has to be formed. It has to go through fire, has to
Speaker:burn off the impurities and all the other stuff before it gets to it.
Speaker:And so that teacher in your life burned off some
Speaker:things that you didn't need to carry with you as you progressed.
Speaker:And now look at where you are, where you're doing multiple things which we're going
Speaker:to get into, and you're not. You're not facing them with fear and
Speaker:trepidation the way. And some people that are on the outside looking in
Speaker:at your life say, man, how are you able to do that? Well, one of
Speaker:it is that you gave somebody license to speak to
Speaker:you, where you were at that moment in time. Because where you were
Speaker:in Modesto in getting your associate's degree is not where you are today.
Speaker:Correct. It's very far different. I
Speaker:mean, that was, like, over 20 years ago as well. So
Speaker:it was quite a bit of time since then. But
Speaker:it's really great to look back at those experiences and know
Speaker:how much they impacted my life. And just the things I went through, even at
Speaker:JBU as a student and then working at jbu, the things that
Speaker:I experienced and then working on different film sets and
Speaker:with documentary film and working in marketing and media and seeing
Speaker:the rise of social media and just getting to be a part of all those
Speaker:different experiences and have really impacted and shaped who I
Speaker:am today. Sure. And just in that vein of, like,
Speaker:refinement, this is something that has really been
Speaker:on my heart over probably the past five plus
Speaker:years. Probably more like almost 10 years at this point of
Speaker:just looking at every experience that I go through and saying, how can I
Speaker:learn? Or how can I grow from this experience? And sometimes it's not like, ooh,
Speaker:I'm, like, really thinking about, like, how can I grow from this experience? It just
Speaker:kind of sometimes happens. Yeah. But knowing that there is opportunities
Speaker:for small growth and there's opportunities for big growth. And like I was
Speaker:telling you before we started recording, it's been a hard month, and
Speaker:I just had to have, like, that reminder of, you know what? Like, you've been
Speaker:through hard things before and you've come out on the other end and
Speaker:you can learn from this. And recently there was something we went through that was
Speaker:really hard with the business, and I was just like, oh, gosh. Like, I just
Speaker:want to throw in the towel. Like, I just want to be done. Yeah, make
Speaker:it stop. Exactly. Like, I just want to say, sit here and cry and
Speaker:eat and eat. Bonbons. In bed and watch some, you know,
Speaker:TV show. I don't know what I want to do, but that experience
Speaker:helped me learn something, and I was able to lean into that and
Speaker:know that there is growth that's going to come from that. And I always want
Speaker:to have that posture of, like, what can I learn? How can I grow? You
Speaker:know, earlier you were talking about, like, oh, you've got it figured out and you
Speaker:don't make any more mistakes or what? You're not making mistakes anymore in your 40s.
Speaker:That's not true. No, it's not. It's not. I'm making a lot of mistakes, and
Speaker:I'm going to make them in my 50s and my 60s and probably for the
Speaker:rest of my life because I'm a human. But I get what you were
Speaker:saying at that junction, but it's just. I don't know. I think
Speaker:that I always want to be that person. I always want to
Speaker:learn and grow from the things that I've experienced, whether it's mistakes I've made or
Speaker:just an experience I've had or an opportunity to learn and grow.
Speaker:It's just important to me. Well, I mean. And I think it's important
Speaker:to us as adults, specifically, because we are both adults.
Speaker:And I think, you know, you came here where we met today. We're actually
Speaker:recording this at the Fayetteville Public Library. Shout out to the best library in the
Speaker:region. No shade to any other library in northwest Arkansas,
Speaker:but this library sets the standard. But as you came here with your son,
Speaker:I am reminded of how much of an example we set
Speaker:for those that we. Whether we bring into the world or.
Speaker:You just never know who's looking up at you, right? Oh, absolutely. And you
Speaker:have to set that example and show them what it's like to go through
Speaker:challenges and hard things just so that they can find
Speaker:success in their lives. Because your son and your daughter's success
Speaker:is going to be different than your success, but it is predicated upon the
Speaker:lessons that you leave them as you guys go about your
Speaker:time here. Right. So it's the cats in the cradle and the silver moon,
Speaker:right? Little boy blue and the man in the moon.
Speaker:Yes, absolutely. So, man. No. Well, we could
Speaker:riff on this forever. I want to. There are actually a number of
Speaker:questions that I have for you around this, because we always like to
Speaker:focus on people that are doing interesting things in northwest
Speaker:Arkansas. And I want to be very clear. I think everybody's doing something interesting. I
Speaker:agree. It's just being able to define it. And if you have a platform.
Speaker:It's good to be able to put yourself out there because you never know who's
Speaker:watching. I agree. It really is. And so I wanted to ask you
Speaker:this. Your path to actually staying here reads like a
Speaker:movie. Here in northwest Arkansas, you went to college at jbu, a
Speaker:local film project. You met Jeff documenting places like
Speaker:Dogpatch USA before they were gone. I mean, you've done a bunch of
Speaker:stuff. How did that early work in film and
Speaker:documentary especially shape how you think about
Speaker:northwest Arkansas's history and what's worth preserving?
Speaker:Oh, that is a really good question. That's kind of a hard question,
Speaker:I think, you know, when I think about my
Speaker:opinion of just Arkansas, back when I was
Speaker:living in California and just kind of being a little snooty about it
Speaker:and thinking like, I am not going to Arkansas,
Speaker:it's beneath me. Yeah, that's like, I don't even
Speaker:know. It's a flyover place. It is a flyover place. That's what they said. I
Speaker:mean, I honestly had no idea where it was. Right. Like, as far as
Speaker:geography, I was like, where even is Arkansas? I mean, I do remember
Speaker:a lot about Arkansas because I was a teen in the 90s, and so
Speaker:that was the height of, like, I'm ready to vote. I want to really
Speaker:have an opinion and what's going on in the world, in the country. And so
Speaker:that was a huge, high time for Bill Clinton. And
Speaker:so Arkansas was definitely on my radar in that sense.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah. Very, very much so. I would say that just
Speaker:some of that early work, as I came here and learned more about Arkansas
Speaker:and learned more about the region in northwest Arkansas, I think that there's just
Speaker:so much value in the people here. I will always
Speaker:go back to the people and how they have shaped this place. And there's the
Speaker:obvious people, there's, you know, the Walton family,
Speaker:the J.B. hunt family, there's the Tyson family,
Speaker:There's the big families that have really poured into this region and there
Speaker:is so much value in what they've poured in and what they continue to pour
Speaker:into this region. Yeah. But there's also the small
Speaker:businesses and the people that are doing the day to day work
Speaker:and who are investing in one another and who are building
Speaker:each other up and who are making an impact in this
Speaker:area on a smaller level or on just like a more intimate
Speaker:level. Well, I always like to say on their level. Right. I mean, I think
Speaker:you need to, you know, what is it? Get in where you fit in. And
Speaker:we all Fit in somewhere. Correct. And so some of us are
Speaker:just going to have larger platforms than others, but. But whatever your
Speaker:platform is, work with what you got. Yes, right. Yeah,
Speaker:I agree. And I think, you know, I really think back, because we've been doing
Speaker:the podcast for three years now, and just some of the people that
Speaker:we've met are just so fascinating, and you just don't
Speaker:even realize who walks among you here in northwest Arkansas? Have
Speaker:no idea. No idea. I mean, when I first even heard about
Speaker:Dogpatch, I was like, I'm sorry, what? A theme park
Speaker:based on hillbillies? Like, oh, that's where I got my
Speaker:impression of Arkansas the first place was. Right. Was it because of Dog
Speaker:Patch? Perhaps? Yeah. But it was such a fascinating
Speaker:opportunity to go through, and it was so cool to learn about
Speaker:the origins of the place and how it came to be and even how it
Speaker:did have an impact on this area, but it didn't define it completely.
Speaker:It had an impact, but I don't think it defined all of what Arkansas
Speaker:is or what northwest Arkansas is. And I think that. That
Speaker:it's really interesting. I really love learning about people. And
Speaker:just this area that seems to have helped you kind of cut
Speaker:your teeth in the whole motive of
Speaker:storytelling. Right. When you think of that. And so. And after a
Speaker:while, it starts to. Not that it comes naturally. I think we have to work
Speaker:at being able to tell stories because you want to kind of capture
Speaker:the interest of others through words and through
Speaker:examples. And so, I mean, it requires a lot of work. It does.
Speaker:It really does. It really does. Sometimes a lot of research, sometimes a lot of
Speaker:finding the people that need to be found. I remember when I found.
Speaker:So I was a producer on the doc, a documentary about Dogpatch usa,
Speaker:and for those of you that are listening, it's a theme park that is based
Speaker:right out of Ark or right outside of Harrison in Boone county,
Speaker:based on a little comic strip called Li' L Abner.
Speaker:And the author and the comic of Lil
Speaker:Abner, who wrote it, Al Capp, his son
Speaker:actually, was the one who ran Dogpatch usa, the theme park.
Speaker:And I found him, and it was so
Speaker:awesome to find him and to just dig, dig,
Speaker:dig. And then I found, like, a sister and then a daughter and a cousin,
Speaker:and then I think it was the daughter that was able to get me right
Speaker:in touch with him. And he just lives still in Little Rock, and since then,
Speaker:he has passed away. But it was really cool to be able to find him
Speaker:and get him interviewed for the documentary. Is that documentary on
Speaker:YouTube. It isn't on YouTube, but I have. I have copies of
Speaker:it. And so I think that the director is wanting to potentially
Speaker:bring it back and put it into film festivals, because we didn't do a film
Speaker:festival run with it. Oh, interesting. And so he wanted to just go straight to
Speaker:dvd, was working with a distributor on that. And then
Speaker:things kind of fell apart as they did, as we got closer to Covid.
Speaker:And then Covid happened, and everything kind of just went to the wayside.
Speaker:So I feel like there's a resurgence of other things happening. Maybe this
Speaker:podcast will stimulate that and people will start reaching out to you, saying, hey, I
Speaker:want to see this video. It's really fun. Well, my daughter, the other day, she
Speaker:goes, mom. She goes, I've been learning about abandoned places. She's 11.
Speaker:I've been learning about abandoned places in Arkansas. And there's this one place called Dog
Speaker:Patch. Have you heard of it? And I was like, really? I
Speaker:have, yes. And we've actually been there. She's like, what We.
Speaker:She goes, oh, when it was open, I go, oh, no, no, not when it
Speaker:was open. I was like, I have pictures of you there when you were little.
Speaker:Like, probably. She was probably about 3 years old when I worked
Speaker:on that documentary. And so it's kind of fun. She's like, can we go there?
Speaker:I mean, it'd probably be trespassing, but can we go? And I was like, I
Speaker:don't know that it's safe anymore. Is the site still there now? Some
Speaker:of it is still there. It's been purchased and handed over and
Speaker:over. And at one point, I think the owner of Bass Pro Shops had
Speaker:purchased the land, and that was the last I heard of it. And that was
Speaker:right on the cusp of 2020. And so I don't
Speaker:know that there's been a lot. Yeah, I've kind of lost track of it. Yeah,
Speaker:that's. That's really cool. Well. Well, yeah, I hope that we'll put some information
Speaker:in the show notes so people can kind of look that up and do their
Speaker:own research. Right. You know, go to Dr. Google and search
Speaker:Dogpatch USA and learn a little bit more about that.
Speaker:Because you said Little Abner, and I know what Little Abner is. Most people don't
Speaker:know. Most people of a certain age don't know who Little Abner is. No, they
Speaker:don't. I think that will be interesting as well. Well, what people will know, which
Speaker:is really interesting, is Sadie Hawkins dances. Of course.
Speaker:Absolutely. What I thought this was probably one of my
Speaker:favorite parts of working on the documentary and the things that I learned. I mean,
Speaker:I learned a lot, but because I grew up in an era of
Speaker:Sadie Hawkins dances in high school, and I was like, oh,
Speaker:Sadie Hawkins. Like, Sadie Hawkins dances. And it originated from
Speaker:Dogpatch, from the comic strip first, and then it
Speaker:became a thing at the park. And I think it was the University
Speaker:of Alabama that first adopted it to be a dance
Speaker:and to, like, kind of make it, like a thing where the girls ask the
Speaker:guys and, like, it's the whole thing. But in the park and in the comic
Speaker:strip, for those of you that are interested in. So
Speaker:hillbilly. And it's about, like, this woman whose dad wants her to
Speaker:get married, and she's, like, super ugly, and so these men have to, like, run,
Speaker:and she chases them, and if she catches one of them, then they have to
Speaker:marry her. It's like a whole thing. Yeah, it was a whole
Speaker:publicity, scent marketing scheme that they did back in, like, the 30s
Speaker:or something crazy like that with the comic strip. And then it became like a
Speaker:foot race that happened every day at the theme park.
Speaker:Yeah. Where they would come out and they would run and chase each other, and
Speaker:so. That's hilarious. And the St. Hawkins dance all over the country, I
Speaker:think. Oh, yeah, all over the place. There's even a song about it. Yeah,
Speaker:absolutely. Absolutely. Anyway, that's exciting. All right, so I want to
Speaker:kind of. This is really interesting to me, and it's something that, as
Speaker:you've talked a little bit about it, but when you and Jeff decided
Speaker:to bring Peekaboo back, you didn't just try to recreate what
Speaker:existed. You went bigger format, premium matte
Speaker:finish. A deliberate, tactile experience. I really love opening
Speaker:your magazine and smelling it. Actually. Don't tell anybody, but it smells good.
Speaker:It's just interesting. Right. But walk me through that decision,
Speaker:because when you talk to most people nowadays, Right. When somebody's
Speaker:like, yeah, I'm going to start or buy a magazine, and I'm going to double
Speaker:down on making sure we print a lot of copies of this. In this
Speaker:day and age. Right. When I'm looking at my iPhone and thinking, man, okay,
Speaker:everything that I need is right on this device. That was a.
Speaker:I would call that a bold counter move. Yes. To
Speaker:where the established practices are of consuming information.
Speaker:How did you come up with that? Yeah, no, that's a great.
Speaker:You have really good questions, Randy. I see why your podcast
Speaker:is so popular and you've done hundreds of episodes. I would
Speaker:say Gosh, we talked about it a lot, the
Speaker:format that we wanted to do and bring back. We are
Speaker:still working with the same local printer that we kind
Speaker:of. So when we decided to buy the brand, we shopped around for different
Speaker:printers. We decided to go with just US printers, which is
Speaker:based out of Springdale and it's a third
Speaker:generation family owned printer here in the area.
Speaker:Great, great people and they print on site.
Speaker:And we had great conversations with him, talked about different types of
Speaker:paper, touched a lot of paper through this process,
Speaker:had a lot of conversations with people, friends, family, things like that.
Speaker:And while that little digest size of a magazine
Speaker:is easy to like throw in a bag and things like that, we wanted this
Speaker:to be a little bit elevated. We wanted it to
Speaker:stand out as a premier family magazine
Speaker:with seeing the new magazines like the City lifestyle
Speaker:magazines coming out and shout out to Randy being in the Fayetteville City
Speaker:lifestyle magazine for the month of June. Appreciate that. Thank you. I
Speaker:love, I love the City lifestyle magazines and have
Speaker:gotten to know the publisher for the Bentonville and the
Speaker:Rogers one really well. And I just really loved how it
Speaker:felt, what it looked like and said, okay, this is
Speaker:kind of what we want to model it after as well. And our printer was
Speaker:giving us advice on just the types of paper and things like that.
Speaker:So we wanted it to be something that was an experience, you
Speaker:know, something like you were saying, it feels good to touch,
Speaker:it smells good. It's funny that you say that about the smell because when
Speaker:we first started, when we first brought it back, we were doing a lot of
Speaker:the deliveries and as we were handing it out to people, they were like,
Speaker:oh my gosh, this smells so good. Yeah, it's crazy, right? You
Speaker:think like it's a magazine, but no, it smells good too. So.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah. And so we've kind of coined that like term, like that new
Speaker:magazine smell. And it's really. I think that there's
Speaker:something really valuable in bringing people together in
Speaker:physical ways, in person, in front of you,
Speaker:something you can touch, something that you can spend time with rather than
Speaker:just doom scrolling, rather than just getting that
Speaker:fatigue from being, you know, digitally just.
Speaker:It's gotten so overwhelming and just so
Speaker:oversaturated. And I think there really is. I think you're going to see a
Speaker:resurgence of magazines, books being printed
Speaker:again. I really do. I mean, I'm reading articles about it,
Speaker:I'm seeing it all over. And also what was really cool about going with
Speaker:the matte finish pages, I like how it feels. It
Speaker:reminds me of like Matte finish photos back in the day, I love. I
Speaker:remember it's like, I'm going to check matte finish when I go get my pictures.
Speaker:I don't want to get any smudges on it. No, I want to get the
Speaker:matte. And so that. I mean, it's really funny because it's. It
Speaker:is different. It's not traditional magazine,
Speaker:but I just kind of love the aesthetic of Matte, and it didn't
Speaker:cost any different. And that was really kind of interesting to me because
Speaker:usually I would think matte finish would cost a little extra, but. Yeah, so
Speaker:there were lots of things, and we wanted it to stand out. We wanted it
Speaker:to be an experience for people. So, yeah, I think people
Speaker:are interested in having some
Speaker:experiences in real life, you know, irl, as the cool kids like to
Speaker:say, because, I mean, everything is so virtual nowadays. Young
Speaker:people struggle, especially men. Young men struggle with
Speaker:loneliness and what have you. And so I think it's kind of bringing you
Speaker:back to a former day and time. I remember this. You'll find humor in this.
Speaker:But, like, I was like, you know, when I was in college and as I
Speaker:started adulting and I would travel, I remember would just. I would have to travel
Speaker:with my magazines. I would have my Conde Nast travel magazine, my
Speaker:gq, my Esquire, you know, I had all these magazines
Speaker:that I carried with me. And then, of course, the iPhone came along and the
Speaker:iPad, and you could put all that on your, you know, on your digital device.
Speaker:So it was kind of cool. The novelty of it was great. But then I've
Speaker:kind of come back to a place where, like, I get the Atlantic, and
Speaker:I actually get the actual physical magazine. I love that for the Atlantic.
Speaker:And it comes to my house. It's the only magazine that I get that physically
Speaker:comes to my house outside of the magazines that I go around town
Speaker:getting, like, cityscapes and yours and the new Fayetteville
Speaker:magazine. So I think it's. You know, there's. People are kind of craving
Speaker:that. They really are kind of coming back to that coffee
Speaker:table mentality of, like, sitting around the coffee table,
Speaker:picking up a book, picking up a magazine, and reading and just,
Speaker:you know, perusing through. Yeah, and I love that we're
Speaker:really focusing on stories and being hyper local and
Speaker:making sure that we're putting real stories by real people in the magazine. I love
Speaker:that. Well, I mean, I was actually. I'm a real person, and I actually got
Speaker:a real spot. Wait, you are a real person. That's great
Speaker:to know. And I had a chance. I mean, I was so honored when you
Speaker:asked me. You have a dad column? We do. And I was
Speaker:honored when you asked me to write an article and I wrote an article
Speaker:about my relationship with my grandmother. And you know, I've mentioned,
Speaker:I've mentioned my grandmother before on this podcast. And you know, one of the things
Speaker:that she had said to me early on was that I was going to have
Speaker:three boys. She knew this. I don't know how she knew this because she was
Speaker:dead and gone long before I had my first child, but she said I was
Speaker:going to have three boys. And she said, and I'll never forget this. They're going
Speaker:to do to you what you did to me and your grandfather. And not
Speaker:in a bad way, but just like, you know, you're going to have a lot
Speaker:of the same experiences that we had raising you. Because I, I mean, I live
Speaker:with my mom. And when, I'll never forget when my grandmother, my parents got
Speaker:divorced at a really young age. My grandparents told my mom, listen, you've got a
Speaker:great job. You should save your money so you can buy a house. Come live
Speaker:with us, Bring Randy. And we all lived in the same town in New Jersey.
Speaker:And so I, you know, I was kind of raised in a multi generational household
Speaker:where I had, I had a grandfather and a grandmother. I had two mothers,
Speaker:basically. Yeah, you did. So, yeah. But my grandmother always said, yeah,
Speaker:what you did to us, you know, these kids are gonna do to you. And
Speaker:man, she was not lying at all. And so that article which
Speaker:I will link to in the show notes, was kind of like my
Speaker:ode to my grandmother. But I appreciate having
Speaker:that opportunity to kind of share and tell that story. And as I've read
Speaker:other articles that have come out since then, I'm just like,
Speaker:yeah, I mean, Brian Fitton and a few others people that I know have
Speaker:written really great articles. But I mean, there's just, there's something to be said for
Speaker:that when you can, especially for a more localized publication where you
Speaker:can read articles written by people that you actually know in
Speaker:real life, which is kind of cool. And that's something that I am
Speaker:not, I don't take lightly at all. So listen, I want to ask
Speaker:you this because this is around the whole storytelling thing, but
Speaker:Peekaboo runs a lot of first person blog style storytelling
Speaker:from local parents rather than just traditional journalism. Right.
Speaker:But getting that content requires real relationship work.
Speaker:Meeting people for coffee, hearing their story, then writing
Speaker:custom prompts to actually help them write it. Why does it have to be
Speaker:that hands on. Well, that's a good question. I keep saying that. That's a
Speaker:good question. It really, it gets to the
Speaker:heart of people's stories oftentimes because of
Speaker:the format and how we're doing this, because we're having it
Speaker:written, first person point of view. And not everyone is a writer,
Speaker:so not everyone. You know, we talk to people and they get really nervous. They're
Speaker:like, well, I want to share my story, but I don't write. And I'm like,
Speaker:I promise I can help you through this. Sure. And so in a way, it's
Speaker:an opportunity for them to share their voice. And the
Speaker:relationship part of it is important because this is the community
Speaker:that we live in. And those relationships are so valuable and
Speaker:so important and integral to how that story gets
Speaker:written and read eventually. And I love
Speaker:the process. I love that that is how Peekaboo was
Speaker:back in the day. A lot of the stories were first person point of view,
Speaker:not all, but a lot of them. And I wanted to carry on that tradition
Speaker:because I think it hits you in a different way. I think it makes it
Speaker:a little bit more personable. I think it gives people in our community
Speaker:an opportunity to share their voice, an opportunity to use their
Speaker:words, to share their story. And I don't know that I'd do it
Speaker:any other way. I've thought about that a lot. I've actually thought about that recently
Speaker:a lot too, of like, oh man, we should get some like writers up in
Speaker:here and kind of do more of a interview style. But it's working
Speaker:right now how it is, and I love it. And what would you say to
Speaker:somebody listening to this that is wondering how they can kind
Speaker:of make their imprint here in northwest Arkansas
Speaker:with regard to the relationships that are required to be able
Speaker:to even do this? Right? Because again, you just reached out to me kind
Speaker:of casual, you're like, hey, you want to write an article for this? And I
Speaker:was like, because I didn't ask you to write, you came to me. And I
Speaker:was like, but again, it's because of a relationship that exists, right?
Speaker:Our paths have crossed in a million different ways. And I think
Speaker:that one of the things that I've enjoyed about northwest Arkansas, which I want people
Speaker:to hear, whether you're relocating here, you're already here.
Speaker:I think the minute that you take a moment to just lean into
Speaker:what's happening in northwest Arkansas, you'll find a lot
Speaker:of like minded people, a lot of folks that are on the same path
Speaker:and journey that you Are. And you find that, like. So I have
Speaker:a. I feel like I have a kindred connection with what you're doing because
Speaker:I identify with it. Right. We're of a similar age range and
Speaker:all that. And I think it's important for people to understand that. That
Speaker:none of us are alone on this ride that we're on. Right. I mean,
Speaker:there's a lot of folks around there, and you'd be surprised who's
Speaker:willing to raise their hand and say, I'll help, or how can I help?
Speaker:Or yes. What do you need? Right. And I just think
Speaker:it's important. And so I drive this home to my kids. I don't know if
Speaker:you. I'm assuming you share this with your kids, but relationships mean
Speaker:everything. They really. It is the really only economy
Speaker:that I have ever operated in, especially here in northwest Arkansas.
Speaker:But just in general, you know, your only real value
Speaker:is the people that you're able to connect with. Right. That is your true
Speaker:worth. It really is. I think it's important. And I think that
Speaker:one thing when I. I am an extrovert. Yeah. So I have
Speaker:no problem talking to every stranger that exists in our world.
Speaker:Right, Right. I got that from my dad, actually, in our June issue. I actually
Speaker:wrote the Dad's Corner this month because we have a lot of
Speaker:dad stories and the magazine overall. And so I
Speaker:wrote it from the perspective of being a daughter, a wife, and a mom.
Speaker:Sure. And my dad, he talked to everyone we. Grocery store
Speaker:line. And I used to get embarrassed and be like, why do you have to
Speaker:talk to every single person? And that's what I do
Speaker:now. And I love it. I absolutely love meeting people.
Speaker:Strangers are just friends I haven't met yet. Exactly. Exactly.
Speaker:But that's. Not everyone. Not everyone can be an extrovert. Not
Speaker:everyone can just strike up a conversation with a stranger, and
Speaker:that's okay. So I really want to just. Just kind
Speaker:of just encourage those out there that if you aren't an extrovert,
Speaker:find an extrovert and tag along with them and they will help
Speaker:you. Danielle, who is my co host for People of Northwest Arkansas
Speaker:podcast, she laughs because she is not the person
Speaker:that will go up to people and talk to people. Like, we've gone to events
Speaker:together, and we went to the TEDx talks in
Speaker:Bentonville, and they had us do an activity where
Speaker:we were getting up and we were gonna go talk to a stranger and meet
Speaker:them and ask them these questions. And she just leans over and goes, this
Speaker:is my worst nightmare. And I was like, I Got you.
Speaker:I got you. And she did fine. Just follow my lead. Yeah, she did
Speaker:fine. All fine on her own. But she laughs and it's kind of a joke
Speaker:amongst us. If we're having a meeting in a coffee shop,
Speaker:I'm talking to everybody and then she's meeting all of those people because she
Speaker:doesn't have to meet them initially, she gets introduced to them. And
Speaker:so find yourself some extroverts to tag along with and,
Speaker:you know, go to some places where you can find people like you,
Speaker:you know, like go to the coffee shops, the libraries, the music stores, the
Speaker:places where you're going to find like minded people. And it's okay, you don't have
Speaker:to talk to people either. But relationships are so important and so
Speaker:valuable and I love that we're so connected. Like you were saying, I knew you.
Speaker:So I reached out to you for the Dads column and you said yes.
Speaker:Not everyone in the issue I know initially. And so having
Speaker:people who can connect to me with someone else and say, hey, I need a
Speaker:story about adoption, or I need to know. I need some people
Speaker:recommended to me about childhood cancer. And so then people are
Speaker:recommended and then I get to know them and have coffee with them or a
Speaker:conversation with them and get to hear their story and kind of present
Speaker:it in the way that we're presenting it through a magazine and through an article.
Speaker:And it's been really awesome. Yeah. And no, I can only imagine.
Speaker:And I mean, again, you know, people always ask, how do you get so many
Speaker:people on your podcast? And I'm like, you know, I just made connections with
Speaker:people. I mean, it's all relationships. I mean, eventually it took on a life of
Speaker:its own. Yes. But at the onset, I tell people all the time, like
Speaker:my first 15 or 20 episodes, it was all because of one
Speaker:person. One person introduced me to somebody that introduced me to somebody
Speaker:that introduced. But I can trace it all back to one individual. So you
Speaker:don't. That's awesome. You also don't need to know a gajillion folks. So true.
Speaker:You can have a couple of strategic friends. And I guarantee you there's
Speaker:one strategic friend out there that's like Danielle, that's that
Speaker:extrovert that, you know, has never met a stranger that she didn't
Speaker:want to say hi to that will be able to make those
Speaker:introductions for you. And it doesn't take much. And I'll give folks another
Speaker:tip that I learned from A young man, Dr. Joe
Speaker:Daniels, and he did this exercise when he was in grad School
Speaker:at the U of A. And he just sat down and had coffee with a
Speaker:hundred people. I love that. Like, no agenda. There was
Speaker:no ask. Because I always try to make that very clear. I'm not. You know,
Speaker:I don't go around asking people for anything. As a matter of fact, I keep
Speaker:all my asks in my pocket because I want, you know, you never know.
Speaker:When you really need something, then you can make an ask. That's true.
Speaker:But, yeah, he did this whole exercise where he just met 100 people for
Speaker:coffee. I was one of those. I was privileged enough to be one of them.
Speaker:And, yeah, I mean, that for me was. It was just a reminder
Speaker:that something as simple as a cup of roasted coffee,
Speaker:sitting down for a half an hour and just chatting with somebody and getting to
Speaker:understand them, where they come from, their world perspective,
Speaker:what they're working on, what really keeps them up at night,
Speaker:what wakes them up in the morning, all of these things play into
Speaker:it. Because, I mean, again, none of us are. You know, that would.
Speaker:I think what people don't understand is that especially for folks that are
Speaker:going through things, a lot of times, people tend to
Speaker:separate themselves from everybody else, but that's actually the time when you need to be
Speaker:connected with other people. I agree. Right. I mean, there are moments and times
Speaker:when you need to shut the door from all the outside noise so that you
Speaker:can focus on yourself. And that's an ongoing thing. But I think for
Speaker:individuals, and I know I'm like this. I thrive
Speaker:off of these connections. Like, this is like, you know, and people are like,
Speaker:how are you able to do that? I'm like, listen, me doing podcasting
Speaker:and interviewing people is like breathing. Right? It's just. It's
Speaker:that easy. I don't think about it. I'm not like, oh, this is a chore,
Speaker:or whatever. I was. I've been looking forward to this conversation all day long. And
Speaker:I've been like, man, I can't wait to. You know, this is like. This is
Speaker:like my lunch break for me, that I'm just. I'm just coming and having this
Speaker:conversation because it feeds my soul in terms of, you
Speaker:know, what matters to me, and I think we all need to
Speaker:find that. What does that. And I. I would venture to say that in a
Speaker:lot of instances, and I'm going off on a diatribe here, but in a lot
Speaker:of instances, it's a good one. It's those connections with other people
Speaker:is ultimately what feeds us. That's why. And I'm going back to especially Young
Speaker:men that struggle with this even more than young girls. The loneliness
Speaker:thing is a curse. And I'm trying to help young men, my sons
Speaker:included. I'm going through this with my boys. I have a 19, a 21
Speaker:year old and a 16 year old going on 30. But
Speaker:I'm trying to get these guys to understand that
Speaker:they can't sequester themselves in their room. You know,
Speaker:World of Warcraft and all this other stuff. These games are great, but you've got
Speaker:to be able to get out and be around people. And, you know, I'm really
Speaker:thankful that my sons have started to kind of pick up on that. But I
Speaker:know there are people listening to this that are struggling with that, with their kids,
Speaker:and it's real. And so my encouragement is to keep
Speaker:pushing, keep trying, and sometimes you just need one person
Speaker:to make that difference. Right. And to kind of help them out. And so
Speaker:that simply is my encouragement. But for any one of us, especially if you're here
Speaker:and in northwest Arkansas and you feel alone, I'm telling you that there
Speaker:is always an opportunity to do something. From Bella Vista
Speaker:down to West Fork, there's always something going on, everything
Speaker:in between. So there is no excuse. And you can start out
Speaker:small. And I say that. And now as I'm talking about this,
Speaker:I realize that there is an event tonight that's at the day that
Speaker:we're recording this episode. There is an event that they've never done before
Speaker:called speed friending. Oh, and it's fun. Yeah, it is.
Speaker:It's just kind of like going through, like, imagine going through and meeting with different
Speaker:people that you've never met before. They're doing it at the library now. Originally
Speaker:they had set it up for like 30 or 40 people, but they've had an
Speaker:overwhelming response. And now all of a sudden. Yeah. All of a sudden they're
Speaker:like, we had to move the room from one, you know, and that's a good
Speaker:problem to have. I told, I told the programmer that's doing it here at the
Speaker:library. I said, that's a good problem to have where you're at the last
Speaker:minute having to move the room because you've got. And I
Speaker:said, if nothing else, that speaks to the state that we're currently in right
Speaker:now that people are lonely. Yeah. And they need, they want, they're
Speaker:craving connection. Yeah. And I'm here to tell you that that connection
Speaker:can be had in northwest Arkansas for the small price of zero.
Speaker:Yeah. Doesn't cost a lot. But you do have to put yourself out there
Speaker:and make some connections. Yeah. You have to put yourself out there. And if you're
Speaker:one of the people that's part of the organizing of those events or
Speaker:you're an extrovert at those events, look for those people. Look
Speaker:for the people that are on the fringe. Look for the people that are
Speaker:not approaching others and are not being approached. And
Speaker:go and approach them and make them feel welcomed and make them feel
Speaker:like they belong there. Because there are so many people in this world
Speaker:who are not like Randy or I, where we just go in and we
Speaker:talk to everybody. There are tons of people that know,
Speaker:need to be approached and. Because it
Speaker:takes so much guts for an introvert to push themselves out
Speaker:there and to go to these events and then they show
Speaker:up and no one talks to them. Exactly. And it just. That just sucks.
Speaker:Don't let that happen. If you see people standing there by
Speaker:themselves, go talk to them. Yeah. I constantly want to be that
Speaker:person that's like. And I have no problem talking to everyone. Right.
Speaker:Yeah, I have no problem. Well, and it's so funny because. And I will give
Speaker:some people hope is actually. I am not a textbook
Speaker:extrovert. Okay. I'm actually an ambivert. Okay. Which is, you
Speaker:know, an amber version's a real thing. It's been studied. Daniel Pink
Speaker:has talked about it. But amber version is somebody that kind of lives in the
Speaker:spectrum between introversion and extroversion. I can
Speaker:kind of go both ways when I need to. I can be out there and
Speaker:you think, oh, man, this guy's a car salesman. You know? But then there are
Speaker:times when I am a little bit more reserved, and so I kind of can
Speaker:navigate, and I get it. And then I read Susan Cain's book Quiet,
Speaker:which is a really good book, especially if you're an introvert and you're
Speaker:listening to this and you've never read Susan Cain's book about
Speaker:what really makes you tick. That's a good book to read because
Speaker:it really is helpful for people to kind of have language
Speaker:around how they operate and how they see things. Yes.
Speaker:Right. Because I know a lot of people that are very introverted but are very
Speaker:successful. Yeah. So, you know. Yeah, for sure. My daughter is an
Speaker:introvert. She's in a family of extroverts, bless her
Speaker:heart. We'll have to pray for her. That's right.
Speaker:Exactly. So she does. Okay. She's so sweet.
Speaker:She's so creative, and she actually writes for the magazine. Oh,
Speaker:that's. I love that she has the things that she's passionate about
Speaker:and does a really great job at writing. She actually is
Speaker:an amazing reader too. She's in fifth grade and has a ninth grade reading level.
Speaker:I love that she's like, when can we go to the library? She wants to
Speaker:go to the library. Yeah. She should be here with you. I know. She should
Speaker:be putting her on notice whenever she listens to this episode. We're shaming you because
Speaker:you're not at the library today, but it's all good because we know you'll be
Speaker:here soon. So. Yes, I'm glad you mentioned that, though, because again,
Speaker:you know, doing this magazine has been a family affair for you. Right.
Speaker:And I do want to talk just as we wind up a little bit about
Speaker:the entrepreneurial heavy lifting that exists. The realities
Speaker:of it. You've been really transparent about leaving a stable corporate
Speaker:marketing job to come back to serial entrepreneurship. It's been hard.
Speaker:There've been late nights. Yes. Family sacrifice.
Speaker:Reeducating advertisers on a pricing model that hasn't been
Speaker:updated since 2008. What does it actually take to
Speaker:keep your momentum going when you're deep in those
Speaker:early stage trenches of trying to overcome some of those
Speaker:challenges? Yeah, I mean, it's tough at times.
Speaker:I think being a little. What is it? What's the word that
Speaker:I want to say? Delusional, maybe.
Speaker:Might be part of it is, you know, I think that there's got
Speaker:to be a little bit of delusion when you're doing something
Speaker:this big and doing something that is taking up so much
Speaker:of your time, so much of your money, and just so much of
Speaker:you as a person. I think the things that
Speaker:really keep me moving forward and driving me forward in
Speaker:this is the people and the stories
Speaker:and this community. Because it is. I just, it's one of those
Speaker:things where I can just see that, like, horizon, like,
Speaker:we are hitting it, we're getting closer to it and closer to it. I mean,
Speaker:it's always going to be a journey. There's not going to be this like, oh,
Speaker:we've made it. Because I'm going to always want more because I'm that person that
Speaker:I'm like, we're going to do this and now we're going to do this. And
Speaker:my husband's like, can we just, can we do good at this for a while?
Speaker:Like, can you slow down for a little bit? I'm like, we're going to start
Speaker:this thing and this thing and this thing and this thing. You know, we have
Speaker:a lot of goals. I mean, I have several Year goals that I
Speaker:have set for myself and for the publication, for our business.
Speaker:And we are. Technically, our business is Peekaboo Family
Speaker:Media. And we want to be more than just a
Speaker:magazine. The magazine is the heart of it. The magazine
Speaker:is the first touch point for people, but it will go beyond
Speaker:that. And so I think knowing that we're trying to build more
Speaker:keeps me going. I think my team keeps me going. The
Speaker:people that are contributing keep me going. Our photographer, the
Speaker:advertisers that do believe in us and that are like, yeah, these
Speaker:prices make sense. And, yeah, we want to partner with you because it's more than
Speaker:just ads, you know, like, we're developing relationships with our
Speaker:partners, and we're putting them in our magazine in different ways, and we're
Speaker:interacting with them in ways beyond just the
Speaker:printed advertisement. Yeah. One of the things that we started
Speaker:doing this year is we. Speaking of IRL, we started
Speaker:doing these monthly IRLs for Peekaboo, and we
Speaker:are meeting with our partners and our
Speaker:contributors once a month, right. When the magazine comes out, so they can see it
Speaker:first. They can get their hands on it first. And just interacting with them and
Speaker:just having time to take pictures. You invited me to one of those. Yeah. And
Speaker:I. Yeah, you're invited to the next one, too. We're actually. The next one's going
Speaker:to be in Fayetteville. All right. Because we have a lot of. Put me down.
Speaker:Well, and also because we. I need to send this out to
Speaker:all the podcasts. We did a page of local
Speaker:podcasts hosted by Men. Like Men. Podcasts hosted
Speaker:like local Men. And so you are on this list. And so. Cool. Cool.
Speaker:There you go. So you definitely need to come to it. And it's. I will
Speaker:do that. It's a lot of fun. And it's fun to see people's faces and
Speaker:get excited to see themselves in print, because it's a novelty.
Speaker:It really, truly is. Can I tell you how many copies
Speaker:of Peekaboo I have sent around the country? I love it. I sent. I want
Speaker:to say, because I have family all over the place, but I sent, like, 15.
Speaker:I love it. Of course, my mom got four. She wanted, like,
Speaker:send me five. She kept saying, I want more. And then I sent them
Speaker:everywhere. Yes. In North America. So, Mama Wilburn, we
Speaker:can send you more if you want. I have. I still have plenty of copies
Speaker:of that issue, so. No. And so I love that. And that
Speaker:speaks of one last question that I have for you. And there was a story
Speaker:that kind of stuck with me, and it was the piece that you published from
Speaker:a father here in northwest Arkansas writing about his two year old son's battle with
Speaker:stage four cancer. And then the social campaign you
Speaker:built up around this, you figured out a way to shower
Speaker:that family with birthday love. How do you think about the
Speaker:relationship between local media
Speaker:vulnerability? Because I think whenever we tell a story, we can become
Speaker:vulnerable in that place. And then the community compassion
Speaker:that exists, especially here in northwest Arkansas, I think it's really
Speaker:high. I'm not sure if that's the answer, what you're looking for, what you're
Speaker:asking, but I think that there's a lot of people
Speaker:that will, that relate to it. Whether
Speaker:it's something that they've been touched by or a friend that's been
Speaker:touched by it. It also brings awareness to things that
Speaker:maybe they weren't aware of before and
Speaker:families who need help that maybe aren't getting. You
Speaker:know, I think that there are so many
Speaker:stories out there about XYZ or
Speaker:a person here or person there and not everyone's going to be
Speaker:featured. You know, and so when there's, when there's different
Speaker:outlets and different media outlets, from TV to radio
Speaker:to documentary films to magazines and newspapers,
Speaker:there's just so many different media outlets that exist. And so if we're all
Speaker:telling all the same stories, we're missing out on
Speaker:more people. Sure. And so being able to tell stories of people that maybe
Speaker:aren't in every other magazine or in every other
Speaker:TV station, that's, you know, there's, I feel like I'm stumbling over.
Speaker:I get what you're saying, but I think, and I think people need to understand
Speaker:is that first of all, that individual who wrote that article,
Speaker:they are not the only father that has a child
Speaker:that has, you know, childhood cancer in northwest Arkansas.
Speaker:So him writing and being transparent about the challenges that he's
Speaker:going through right now with this and struggling as a father seeing. Because I
Speaker:don't think any parent wants to see their kid struggle. Right. Or be sick.
Speaker:And so it's like, man, you know, they are speaking volumes to
Speaker:other parents that may be going through something very similar. Yeah. And that's why I
Speaker:think it's important for people to share their testimony, to share what they're going through.
Speaker:Because you just never know who's also going through the same exact
Speaker:thing. And I guarantee you there's somebody going through the same
Speaker:exact thing. Oh, absolutely. When we announced that we were purchasing
Speaker:the brand and bringing the magazine back, a woman had reached out to me
Speaker:who I've Known for years, and her kids are
Speaker:older. And she told me a story about how when Peekaboo was in
Speaker:print before and she read a story about
Speaker:adhd, a parent had shared their personal story and their
Speaker:journey with their child's adhd. And this was probably
Speaker:back in, like, probably somewhere between 2008 and
Speaker:2010, I want to say, is when this story probably came out. And
Speaker:there wasn't as much information about it then. And she was sitting in a
Speaker:doctor's office, read the story, and she just started going, huh, well,
Speaker:that's interesting. And because of that parent's story
Speaker:in Peekaboo magazine, she was able to ask her
Speaker:daughter's doctor about ADHD and her child and
Speaker:got her child on medication, and it changed her life.
Speaker:And, like, I get goosebumps. I get kind of emotional, because
Speaker:that is powerful. Yeah. And that's just one story.
Speaker:That's just one story. Exactly. And so. So how
Speaker:many more stories like that exist to where not only do we
Speaker:feel seen as people and in this community, but we can
Speaker:relate and we can connect, and who knows if somebody is
Speaker:gonna pass by somebody that they read about and hopefully
Speaker:they take the opportunity to meet them. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I
Speaker:think that is a clear answer for why
Speaker:Peekaboo magazine, why you started it back up in
Speaker:2025. I mean, just answering that question is
Speaker:perfect for that. So. Yeah, I appreciate that. So a couple of rapid fire
Speaker:questions for you as we close out. We've put you through a number
Speaker:of things. What's your go to casual date night spot? Ooh, a casual
Speaker:date night spot is going to be Parkside Public. Okay. In
Speaker:downtown Rogers. Okay. Parkside Public. Love,
Speaker:love their burgers, love all their loaded
Speaker:fries or messy fries or whatever they're called. They have, like, they have a few
Speaker:different varieties, and they're really good. They're really good. Okay. Parkside Public.
Speaker:All right. And what about where do you like to go to fuel
Speaker:up on coffee during a big production week? Oh, obviously
Speaker:Confident Coffee. There we go. Okay. If you follow me at all, you know that
Speaker:I'm going to be at Confident Coffee. It is one of her Cool. So,
Speaker:yeah. And she's out in the community doing a lot of great things. She really
Speaker:is. But honestly, there are so many great coffee shops around here too. And I
Speaker:like to frequently all of them. And so thinking about that guy who did the
Speaker:hundred coffee dates, I was like, I kind of want to do that. So many
Speaker:of my coffee times are meetings. And
Speaker:so right now. And so it's just like, nice to have coffee and get to
Speaker:know somebody that you don't know. I want to do that again, man.
Speaker:Yeah. Well, listen, Danielle, this has been a great conversation. It's a
Speaker:real reminder that no matter how fast the tech moves
Speaker:and it is moving fast, people still want to be seen. They want to
Speaker:hold something in their hands, and they want to read a story about their neighbor.
Speaker:What Danielle and her family are doing with Peekaboo is exactly the kind of
Speaker:work that keeps this region from losing itself. In all the growth,
Speaker:they're making sure families feel seen, connected, and
Speaker:celebrated. The legacy is in great hands. So we want to
Speaker:thank you so much for joining us on this episode. Thank you for having me.
Speaker:Absolutely. It's a lot of fun. To find a physical copy of Peekaboo
Speaker:magazine, check local libraries. The Fayetteville Public Library carries it.
Speaker:Museums, family focused spots from Fayetteville up to Bella
Speaker:Vista and Siloam Springs. You can explore their themes and
Speaker:digital [email protected] and
Speaker:follow the beautiful layout on Instagram
Speaker:Peekaboomagazine NWA all right, and if you
Speaker:haven't yet, search your favorite podcast app. For people of Northwest
Speaker:Arkansas, Danielle and her co host, the other Danielle, are
Speaker:telling more of these great stories on a regular basis.
Speaker:That's a wrap on this episode of I Am Northwest Arkansas. If this conversation left
Speaker:you with something, a name to look up, a magazine to grab, or
Speaker:just a little more appreciation for what's being built here, pass it along,
Speaker:leave us a review and share it with a friend. And as always,
Speaker:keep showing up for this community because it will keep showing up for
Speaker:you. I'm Randy Wilburn, and this has been I Am
Speaker:Northwest Arkansas. Peace.
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