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Danielle Keller on Reviving Peekaboo Magazine and Building Community Connections in Northwest Arkansas
Episode 36022nd June 2026 • I Am Northwest Arkansas® • Randy Wilburn
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About the Show:

"I always want to have that posture of, like, what can I learn? How can I grow?"

Danielle Keller

Danielle Keller didn't plan on becoming the steward of Northwest Arkansas's most beloved family magazine. She moved from California to Arkansas, built a life here as a mother and filmmaker, and somewhere along the way fell in love with the kind of community storytelling that big media rarely gets right.

In this episode of I Am Northwest Arkansas®, Randy Wilburn sits down with Danielle to talk about her journey—from film and podcasting to relaunching Peekaboo Magazine in August 2025 with a bigger, higher-quality print edition that bets on something most people have written off.

She makes the case for print in a digital world. Not as nostalgia. As intention.

Personal essays from local parents, in-person community events, and real voices from across NWA — Peekaboo is proof that a magazine can still be a gathering place. This conversation is a reminder that the stories closest to home are often the ones worth telling most.

Key Takeaways:

  • Embrace Change and Growth: It's never too late to start something new or pivot your career—real growth often happens later in life.
  • The Importance of Storytelling: Personal stories connect people and help communities feel seen, valued, and understood.
  • Relationships Matter: Building relationships is key to both personal success and community building; everyone has something to offer.
  • The Power of Local Media: Hyper-local publications like Peekaboo give a platform to everyday stories and voices that otherwise might not be heard.
  • Print Isn’t Dead: There’s a renewed appreciation for tangible, high-quality media that people can hold, share, and keep on their coffee tables.
  • Community Support: Sharing vulnerable stories can lead to compassion and real community action, supporting those who need it most.
  • Be Inclusive: Not everyone is an extrovert—seek out and include those on the fringe, and help everyone feel welcome.

All this and more on this episode of the I Am Northwest Arkansas® podcast.

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You can pick up a physical copy of Peekaboo magazine at local libraries, museums, and family-focused spots throughout Northwest Arkansas—from Fayetteville to Bella Vista and Siloam Springs.

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Seven years in, I'm still discovering the people

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quietly doing the work that holds this community together.

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Sometimes that means watching a beloved local institution take a

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pause and then come roaring back with a fresh look, a new

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energy, and the exact same heart that made it matter

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in the first place. Danielle Keller is one of those people.

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She's a serial entrepreneur, filmmaker,

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podcaster, and now the owner and editor in

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chief of Peekaboo magazine, a resource packed with local

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stories, expert voices, and the kind of community love

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that keeps Northwest Arkansas families connected.

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Peekaboo was originally founded in February 2008

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by Kimberly Enderley. For over a decade, it was a

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digest sized fixture used you'd find thrown into

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diaper bags all across the region. Then in 2020

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hit and like a lot of things, it had to pause.

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Now it's back under Danielle and her husband, Jeff.

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Peekaboo officially returned in August 2025.

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A larger format, Premium matte finish, and an

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intentional commitment to high quality print and a world that

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keeps telling us print is dead. Danielle also co hosts

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the People of Northwest Arkansas podcast, which gives her a rare

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dual lens on what makes this community tick, both as

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a media maker and as a neighbor who's

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genuinely invested in the stories here. We talk a lot on

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this show about how fast our region is growing and what it actually

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takes to preserve our soul through that growth.

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There's no better person to dig into that question with

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than a media leader who's betting on it with her own time,

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her own money, and her own family. Coming up

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next, my conversation with Danielle Keller.

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It's time for another episode of I Am Northwest

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Arkansas, the podcast covering the intersection of

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business card culture, entrepreneurship and life in

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general here in the Ozarks. Whether you are considering a

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move to this area or trying to learn more about the place you call

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home, we've got something special for you. Here's

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our host, Randy Wilbur.

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Danielle Keller. Welcome to I Am Northwest Arkansas. Thank you,

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Randy. It's so exciting to be here finally. I know, I know.

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We've been working on this for a while. It's so funny. Nobody, nobody ever sees

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the sausage being made, right? And I know as a podcaster you can

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appreciate what goes in behind the scenes. To actually get in front

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of a mic. Yes, it's crazy. It sometimes takes a lot

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of planning, waiting, patience,

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rescheduling, all of the things that go into it. Yeah, well,

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you've been patient with me. We've worked it out and we're finally here.

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So I love that and I want to jump right into this because I have

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so many questions for you. You been doing so much in our community.

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You've described northwest Arkansas as this massive

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melting pot of transplants and transients, people who

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landed here by circumstance and ended up staying by choice. I feel like I'm

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one of those people. Same. When your family moved from

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Modesto, California, back around 2004, you

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were skeptical. What flipped it for you? What made you go

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from why Arkansas To. To somebody who now tells

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those stories for a living? That's a really great question. So my

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parents moved out here in 2004. My sisters and I, we weren't

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living at home anymore, and we kind of thought, what are you guys doing?

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Like, why are you moving to Arkansas? And they fell in love with the area.

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They fell in love with northwest Arkansas specifically. And I came

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out to visit. I honestly, I will.

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I'll be honest. I came in June of 2004,

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and it rained pretty much the whole time I was there or

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here. And I wasn't super impressed with it. I was like, I don't know, this

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place is hot. It's very humid. There's not a

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lot to do. You know, My parents were in Siloam Springs at the time, and

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there wasn't even a movie theater there. And I thought, what on earth? What are

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you guys doing? But they had a great house, great property.

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And then I went back to California, and I was kind of in between

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places in my life as far as work, career, job,

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school. And I ended up going back to college,

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and my mom had just, you know, as moms do, she put me on

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the mailing list for John Brown University, of course, because,

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you know, that's what moms do. And I was like, mom, I'm not

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ever moving to Arkansas. It's not happening. It's

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just not. And one day I was cleaning my apartment, and I

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came across this video that had been sent to me. It was like a

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DVD video of John Brown University. And I was

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kind of at a place like, I don't know what I'm doing next. Where do

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I want to go? And I was like, you know what? I'm just going to

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watch this and just kind of see what it's all about. And I was

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surprised at how awesome it looked and that it had

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opportunity for me to study film. At the time, I was finishing

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up my associate's degree in film and TV production, and I was like,

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oh, this school has a film program, an art program, and it seems

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pretty vigorous. And, okay, well, I'll check it out. I'll Apply. So I

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applied. I got accepted within a week or two weeks or something like that. And

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then a couple months later, I was moving to Arkansas. So it was a

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wild experience. And all my friends were like, what? What are you doing?

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I was like, well, I'm going back to school, going to go live with my

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parents again, and I'm going to finish college. And it was just a wild

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journey. And so I came back, transferred to JBU in January

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2005, and I was going to be a double major. I was going to do

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youth ministry and digital media arts cinema. Ended up dropping

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the major and just did the digital media arts cinema with a minor in youth

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ministry. Went there for five semesters, finished, had

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a great time, got really involved on campus, did a lot of

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activities. Actually got to plan the first dance that ever happened at jbu. It was

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a very. I mean, it was a very. It was a lot of fun. I

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was in the New York Times, like, goodness. It was a really great experience.

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And then I went back to California to try to make it in, like,

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TV or film production. I was looking at different writers rooms. So I've always had

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a love for writing. Wrote for my school paper in high school and then in

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early college. And so I've always wanted to go back to that. And

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just got out there at perfect time. There was a writer's strike hitting, and then

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just worked a lot of random jobs. And one of the jobs I ended up

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working was working on a film that was produced and

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directed by JBU alumni. And that was kind of

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my connection back to jbu. And so we

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worked on the film. And then I came back to Northwest Arkansas to

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visit my family after we'd kind of wrapped some of the filming.

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And I was at the student center of jvu, and they offered me

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a job. They came out, they said, hey, this position opened. It was

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my old boss's job when I was a student. And that's what pulled

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me back to Northwest Arkansas, was a job at John

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Brown University. And so I worked at JBU for about eight years and

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did a variety of things. Oversaw student

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leadership, student activities, orientation. Got to plan some

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really fun concerts with students. It was a great experience. And then I met my

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husband, and then we ended up moving to Bentonville, and I ended up

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stepping away from my job at jbu. I'm trying to tell this really fast because

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I could go into a lot of details. Oh, no. Well, this is interesting. I

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mean, it's kind of the overarching. Yeah. A lot of people don't Know this part

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of my story because so much has just happened over

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the amount of time that I've lived here. I mean, overall, I've

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essentially been in northwest Arkansas for 20 years. There was like about a

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little over a year that I wasn't here and I was back in California. And

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so there's just. There's so many things that have happened as a result of

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that. I remember one of the things that was really kind of

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pivotal for me in getting back into media was the Bentonville

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Film Festival. And. And I remember they announced was

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the very first film festival happened when I had a. When I had a newborn

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baby sitting on my lap. Not sitting, laying,

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sleeping, nursing. And so I didn't get to attend the first one, but I was

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really excited. And the next year, next year we were already living in

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Bentonville. And so I'd stepped away. Was kind of being a stay at home

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mom, had a two year old and a newborn or a baby. And

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I ended up volunteering, kind of just trying to figure out

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what I was going to do next. And I was kind of starting to dip

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my foot back into media and TV production and video

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production and all the things. And then in 2017,

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at the Bentonville Film Festival, I met some women

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who had made this incredible film. It was

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just so remarkable. And it was about World War II and it had to do

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with Nazi Germany. And it was just this very. Just,

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I mean, like a very deep story. It was really. I wish I could remember

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the name of it because it had an impact and these women had an impact

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on me. And I remember telling them, I'm turning 40 this summer

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and the ship has sailed. And they were like, we're in our

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50s. The ship is not sailed for you. No, it is not.

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And you need to get back into it. And so that was a huge

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turning point for me. This was 2017. This was 2017. It was

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a wake up call. You met your halftime moment. I did. And you

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had some people kind of speak into you. It's always funny how

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individuals that are older than you have that

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collective wisdom and just the ability to kind of give

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you what you need to hear at that moment. Right. Because

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I read a book a long time ago when I was about to turn

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40 called halftime by a man named Bob Buford. And

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he postulates in that book simply that your best years

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are ahead of you, especially if you've lived a half life, because it's like you've

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figured out everything. You've made all the mistakes that you can make.

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Now you can start to move into a place of being an expert.

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Right. And I'm using air quotes now, but it's like you're finally

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figuring things out, because we all like to think, oh, well, yeah,

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you know, if you don't figure things out by your 20s or early 30s, then

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you're lost. And, I mean, it is a long game that

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we're playing here. I say that all the time to people when we talk on

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this podcast, but I sometimes have to be reminded of that. So hearing your

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story reminds me that you have to play the long game. Yes,

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I agree wholeheartedly. And I think that a lot of people. I agree with you.

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And a lot of people think they have to have life figured out in their

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20s and 30s, and that's just not true. And I think

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that some people think you have to figure out what you want to do for

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the rest of your life, and then you just keep doing it. And that's not

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true either. You know, it's okay to pivot. It's okay to change

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direction, even if it's just a slight pivot.

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Sometimes it can be a big pivot, and sometimes it can just be a really

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small one. I really appreciate people that have spoken into me over

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many, many years of my life. And I've always had a

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mentor in my life. I've always had people just encouraging me.

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I always loved those teachers that pushed me really hard.

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When I was at the junior college in Modesto and was getting my

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associates in film and TV production, the woman had in

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charge of that department. I mean, she was tough. She was

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really tough. And, like, so many students hated her. They did not like

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her because she pushed and pushed and pushed, and she is the

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reason I do what I do. Like, she really

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encouraged me in so many ways because I was like, yeah, okay, I will

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rise to that challenge. I will go after what you're trying to tell me, and

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I will go and do better, and I will take this little thing

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that I've learned and improve it because you're pushing me. And I've

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always appreciated people like that. And so when people are saying, like, no, it's not

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too late, I'm like, all right, game on. Challenge accepted. Let's go.

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And that keeps happening, Randy. Well, I like that.

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And you know what that's called, what that teacher did to you.

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It's a form of refinement. And I always like to

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say it's kind of like the refining fire. When you think of, like, any

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metallurgy, gold, silver, any of that, none of that

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gold never presents itself in its final form. Right.

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It has to be formed. It has to go through fire, has to

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burn off the impurities and all the other stuff before it gets to it.

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And so that teacher in your life burned off some

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things that you didn't need to carry with you as you progressed.

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And now look at where you are, where you're doing multiple things which we're going

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to get into, and you're not. You're not facing them with fear and

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trepidation the way. And some people that are on the outside looking in

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at your life say, man, how are you able to do that? Well, one of

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it is that you gave somebody license to speak to

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you, where you were at that moment in time. Because where you were

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in Modesto in getting your associate's degree is not where you are today.

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Correct. It's very far different. I

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mean, that was, like, over 20 years ago as well. So

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it was quite a bit of time since then. But

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it's really great to look back at those experiences and know

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how much they impacted my life. And just the things I went through, even at

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JBU as a student and then working at jbu, the things that

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I experienced and then working on different film sets and

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with documentary film and working in marketing and media and seeing

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the rise of social media and just getting to be a part of all those

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different experiences and have really impacted and shaped who I

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am today. Sure. And just in that vein of, like,

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refinement, this is something that has really been

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on my heart over probably the past five plus

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years. Probably more like almost 10 years at this point of

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just looking at every experience that I go through and saying, how can I

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learn? Or how can I grow from this experience? And sometimes it's not like, ooh,

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I'm, like, really thinking about, like, how can I grow from this experience? It just

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kind of sometimes happens. Yeah. But knowing that there is opportunities

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for small growth and there's opportunities for big growth. And like I was

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telling you before we started recording, it's been a hard month, and

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I just had to have, like, that reminder of, you know what? Like, you've been

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through hard things before and you've come out on the other end and

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you can learn from this. And recently there was something we went through that was

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really hard with the business, and I was just like, oh, gosh. Like, I just

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want to throw in the towel. Like, I just want to be done. Yeah, make

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it stop. Exactly. Like, I just want to say, sit here and cry and

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eat and eat. Bonbons. In bed and watch some, you know,

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TV show. I don't know what I want to do, but that experience

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helped me learn something, and I was able to lean into that and

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know that there is growth that's going to come from that. And I always want

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to have that posture of, like, what can I learn? How can I grow? You

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know, earlier you were talking about, like, oh, you've got it figured out and you

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don't make any more mistakes or what? You're not making mistakes anymore in your 40s.

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That's not true. No, it's not. It's not. I'm making a lot of mistakes, and

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I'm going to make them in my 50s and my 60s and probably for the

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rest of my life because I'm a human. But I get what you were

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saying at that junction, but it's just. I don't know. I think

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that I always want to be that person. I always want to

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learn and grow from the things that I've experienced, whether it's mistakes I've made or

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just an experience I've had or an opportunity to learn and grow.

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It's just important to me. Well, I mean. And I think it's important

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to us as adults, specifically, because we are both adults.

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And I think, you know, you came here where we met today. We're actually

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recording this at the Fayetteville Public Library. Shout out to the best library in the

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region. No shade to any other library in northwest Arkansas,

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but this library sets the standard. But as you came here with your son,

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I am reminded of how much of an example we set

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for those that we. Whether we bring into the world or.

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You just never know who's looking up at you, right? Oh, absolutely. And you

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have to set that example and show them what it's like to go through

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challenges and hard things just so that they can find

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success in their lives. Because your son and your daughter's success

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is going to be different than your success, but it is predicated upon the

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lessons that you leave them as you guys go about your

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time here. Right. So it's the cats in the cradle and the silver moon,

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right? Little boy blue and the man in the moon.

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Yes, absolutely. So, man. No. Well, we could

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riff on this forever. I want to. There are actually a number of

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questions that I have for you around this, because we always like to

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focus on people that are doing interesting things in northwest

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Arkansas. And I want to be very clear. I think everybody's doing something interesting. I

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agree. It's just being able to define it. And if you have a platform.

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It's good to be able to put yourself out there because you never know who's

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watching. I agree. It really is. And so I wanted to ask you

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this. Your path to actually staying here reads like a

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movie. Here in northwest Arkansas, you went to college at jbu, a

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local film project. You met Jeff documenting places like

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Dogpatch USA before they were gone. I mean, you've done a bunch of

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stuff. How did that early work in film and

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documentary especially shape how you think about

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northwest Arkansas's history and what's worth preserving?

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Oh, that is a really good question. That's kind of a hard question,

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I think, you know, when I think about my

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opinion of just Arkansas, back when I was

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living in California and just kind of being a little snooty about it

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and thinking like, I am not going to Arkansas,

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it's beneath me. Yeah, that's like, I don't even

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know. It's a flyover place. It is a flyover place. That's what they said. I

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mean, I honestly had no idea where it was. Right. Like, as far as

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geography, I was like, where even is Arkansas? I mean, I do remember

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a lot about Arkansas because I was a teen in the 90s, and so

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that was the height of, like, I'm ready to vote. I want to really

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have an opinion and what's going on in the world, in the country. And so

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that was a huge, high time for Bill Clinton. And

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so Arkansas was definitely on my radar in that sense.

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Yeah. Yeah. Very, very much so. I would say that just

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some of that early work, as I came here and learned more about Arkansas

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and learned more about the region in northwest Arkansas, I think that there's just

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so much value in the people here. I will always

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go back to the people and how they have shaped this place. And there's the

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obvious people, there's, you know, the Walton family,

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the J.B. hunt family, there's the Tyson family,

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There's the big families that have really poured into this region and there

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is so much value in what they've poured in and what they continue to pour

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into this region. Yeah. But there's also the small

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businesses and the people that are doing the day to day work

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and who are investing in one another and who are building

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each other up and who are making an impact in this

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area on a smaller level or on just like a more intimate

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level. Well, I always like to say on their level. Right. I mean, I think

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you need to, you know, what is it? Get in where you fit in. And

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we all Fit in somewhere. Correct. And so some of us are

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just going to have larger platforms than others, but. But whatever your

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platform is, work with what you got. Yes, right. Yeah,

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I agree. And I think, you know, I really think back, because we've been doing

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the podcast for three years now, and just some of the people that

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we've met are just so fascinating, and you just don't

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even realize who walks among you here in northwest Arkansas? Have

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no idea. No idea. I mean, when I first even heard about

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Dogpatch, I was like, I'm sorry, what? A theme park

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based on hillbillies? Like, oh, that's where I got my

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impression of Arkansas the first place was. Right. Was it because of Dog

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Patch? Perhaps? Yeah. But it was such a fascinating

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opportunity to go through, and it was so cool to learn about

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the origins of the place and how it came to be and even how it

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did have an impact on this area, but it didn't define it completely.

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It had an impact, but I don't think it defined all of what Arkansas

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is or what northwest Arkansas is. And I think that. That

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it's really interesting. I really love learning about people. And

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just this area that seems to have helped you kind of cut

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your teeth in the whole motive of

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storytelling. Right. When you think of that. And so. And after a

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while, it starts to. Not that it comes naturally. I think we have to work

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at being able to tell stories because you want to kind of capture

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the interest of others through words and through

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examples. And so, I mean, it requires a lot of work. It does.

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It really does. It really does. Sometimes a lot of research, sometimes a lot of

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finding the people that need to be found. I remember when I found.

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So I was a producer on the doc, a documentary about Dogpatch usa,

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and for those of you that are listening, it's a theme park that is based

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right out of Ark or right outside of Harrison in Boone county,

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based on a little comic strip called Li' L Abner.

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And the author and the comic of Lil

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Abner, who wrote it, Al Capp, his son

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actually, was the one who ran Dogpatch usa, the theme park.

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And I found him, and it was so

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awesome to find him and to just dig, dig,

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dig. And then I found, like, a sister and then a daughter and a cousin,

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and then I think it was the daughter that was able to get me right

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in touch with him. And he just lives still in Little Rock, and since then,

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he has passed away. But it was really cool to be able to find him

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and get him interviewed for the documentary. Is that documentary on

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YouTube. It isn't on YouTube, but I have. I have copies of

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it. And so I think that the director is wanting to potentially

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bring it back and put it into film festivals, because we didn't do a film

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festival run with it. Oh, interesting. And so he wanted to just go straight to

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dvd, was working with a distributor on that. And then

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things kind of fell apart as they did, as we got closer to Covid.

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And then Covid happened, and everything kind of just went to the wayside.

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So I feel like there's a resurgence of other things happening. Maybe this

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podcast will stimulate that and people will start reaching out to you, saying, hey, I

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want to see this video. It's really fun. Well, my daughter, the other day, she

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goes, mom. She goes, I've been learning about abandoned places. She's 11.

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I've been learning about abandoned places in Arkansas. And there's this one place called Dog

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Patch. Have you heard of it? And I was like, really? I

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have, yes. And we've actually been there. She's like, what We.

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She goes, oh, when it was open, I go, oh, no, no, not when it

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was open. I was like, I have pictures of you there when you were little.

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Like, probably. She was probably about 3 years old when I worked

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on that documentary. And so it's kind of fun. She's like, can we go there?

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I mean, it'd probably be trespassing, but can we go? And I was like, I

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don't know that it's safe anymore. Is the site still there now? Some

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of it is still there. It's been purchased and handed over and

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over. And at one point, I think the owner of Bass Pro Shops had

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purchased the land, and that was the last I heard of it. And that was

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right on the cusp of 2020. And so I don't

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know that there's been a lot. Yeah, I've kind of lost track of it. Yeah,

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that's. That's really cool. Well. Well, yeah, I hope that we'll put some information

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in the show notes so people can kind of look that up and do their

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own research. Right. You know, go to Dr. Google and search

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Dogpatch USA and learn a little bit more about that.

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Because you said Little Abner, and I know what Little Abner is. Most people don't

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know. Most people of a certain age don't know who Little Abner is. No, they

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don't. I think that will be interesting as well. Well, what people will know, which

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is really interesting, is Sadie Hawkins dances. Of course.

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Absolutely. What I thought this was probably one of my

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favorite parts of working on the documentary and the things that I learned. I mean,

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I learned a lot, but because I grew up in an era of

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Sadie Hawkins dances in high school, and I was like, oh,

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Sadie Hawkins. Like, Sadie Hawkins dances. And it originated from

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Dogpatch, from the comic strip first, and then it

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became a thing at the park. And I think it was the University

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of Alabama that first adopted it to be a dance

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and to, like, kind of make it, like a thing where the girls ask the

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guys and, like, it's the whole thing. But in the park and in the comic

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strip, for those of you that are interested in. So

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hillbilly. And it's about, like, this woman whose dad wants her to

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get married, and she's, like, super ugly, and so these men have to, like, run,

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and she chases them, and if she catches one of them, then they have to

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marry her. It's like a whole thing. Yeah, it was a whole

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publicity, scent marketing scheme that they did back in, like, the 30s

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or something crazy like that with the comic strip. And then it became like a

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foot race that happened every day at the theme park.

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Yeah. Where they would come out and they would run and chase each other, and

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so. That's hilarious. And the St. Hawkins dance all over the country, I

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think. Oh, yeah, all over the place. There's even a song about it. Yeah,

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absolutely. Absolutely. Anyway, that's exciting. All right, so I want to

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kind of. This is really interesting to me, and it's something that, as

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you've talked a little bit about it, but when you and Jeff decided

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to bring Peekaboo back, you didn't just try to recreate what

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existed. You went bigger format, premium matte

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finish. A deliberate, tactile experience. I really love opening

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your magazine and smelling it. Actually. Don't tell anybody, but it smells good.

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It's just interesting. Right. But walk me through that decision,

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because when you talk to most people nowadays, Right. When somebody's

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like, yeah, I'm going to start or buy a magazine, and I'm going to double

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down on making sure we print a lot of copies of this. In this

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day and age. Right. When I'm looking at my iPhone and thinking, man, okay,

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everything that I need is right on this device. That was a.

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I would call that a bold counter move. Yes. To

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where the established practices are of consuming information.

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How did you come up with that? Yeah, no, that's a great.

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You have really good questions, Randy. I see why your podcast

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is so popular and you've done hundreds of episodes. I would

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say Gosh, we talked about it a lot, the

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format that we wanted to do and bring back. We are

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still working with the same local printer that we kind

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of. So when we decided to buy the brand, we shopped around for different

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printers. We decided to go with just US printers, which is

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based out of Springdale and it's a third

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generation family owned printer here in the area.

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Great, great people and they print on site.

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And we had great conversations with him, talked about different types of

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paper, touched a lot of paper through this process,

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had a lot of conversations with people, friends, family, things like that.

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And while that little digest size of a magazine

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is easy to like throw in a bag and things like that, we wanted this

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to be a little bit elevated. We wanted it to

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stand out as a premier family magazine

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with seeing the new magazines like the City lifestyle

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magazines coming out and shout out to Randy being in the Fayetteville City

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lifestyle magazine for the month of June. Appreciate that. Thank you. I

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love, I love the City lifestyle magazines and have

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gotten to know the publisher for the Bentonville and the

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Rogers one really well. And I just really loved how it

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felt, what it looked like and said, okay, this is

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kind of what we want to model it after as well. And our printer was

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giving us advice on just the types of paper and things like that.

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So we wanted it to be something that was an experience, you

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know, something like you were saying, it feels good to touch,

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it smells good. It's funny that you say that about the smell because when

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we first started, when we first brought it back, we were doing a lot of

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the deliveries and as we were handing it out to people, they were like,

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oh my gosh, this smells so good. Yeah, it's crazy, right? You

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think like it's a magazine, but no, it smells good too. So.

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Yeah, yeah. And so we've kind of coined that like term, like that new

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magazine smell. And it's really. I think that there's

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something really valuable in bringing people together in

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physical ways, in person, in front of you,

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something you can touch, something that you can spend time with rather than

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just doom scrolling, rather than just getting that

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fatigue from being, you know, digitally just.

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It's gotten so overwhelming and just so

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oversaturated. And I think there really is. I think you're going to see a

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resurgence of magazines, books being printed

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again. I really do. I mean, I'm reading articles about it,

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I'm seeing it all over. And also what was really cool about going with

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the matte finish pages, I like how it feels. It

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reminds me of like Matte finish photos back in the day, I love. I

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remember it's like, I'm going to check matte finish when I go get my pictures.

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I don't want to get any smudges on it. No, I want to get the

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matte. And so that. I mean, it's really funny because it's. It

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is different. It's not traditional magazine,

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but I just kind of love the aesthetic of Matte, and it didn't

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cost any different. And that was really kind of interesting to me because

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usually I would think matte finish would cost a little extra, but. Yeah, so

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there were lots of things, and we wanted it to stand out. We wanted it

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to be an experience for people. So, yeah, I think people

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are interested in having some

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experiences in real life, you know, irl, as the cool kids like to

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say, because, I mean, everything is so virtual nowadays. Young

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people struggle, especially men. Young men struggle with

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loneliness and what have you. And so I think it's kind of bringing you

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back to a former day and time. I remember this. You'll find humor in this.

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But, like, I was like, you know, when I was in college and as I

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started adulting and I would travel, I remember would just. I would have to travel

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with my magazines. I would have my Conde Nast travel magazine, my

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gq, my Esquire, you know, I had all these magazines

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that I carried with me. And then, of course, the iPhone came along and the

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iPad, and you could put all that on your, you know, on your digital device.

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So it was kind of cool. The novelty of it was great. But then I've

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kind of come back to a place where, like, I get the Atlantic, and

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I actually get the actual physical magazine. I love that for the Atlantic.

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And it comes to my house. It's the only magazine that I get that physically

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comes to my house outside of the magazines that I go around town

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getting, like, cityscapes and yours and the new Fayetteville

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magazine. So I think it's. You know, there's. People are kind of craving

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that. They really are kind of coming back to that coffee

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table mentality of, like, sitting around the coffee table,

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picking up a book, picking up a magazine, and reading and just,

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you know, perusing through. Yeah, and I love that we're

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really focusing on stories and being hyper local and

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making sure that we're putting real stories by real people in the magazine. I love

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that. Well, I mean, I was actually. I'm a real person, and I actually got

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a real spot. Wait, you are a real person. That's great

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to know. And I had a chance. I mean, I was so honored when you

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asked me. You have a dad column? We do. And I was

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honored when you asked me to write an article and I wrote an article

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about my relationship with my grandmother. And you know, I've mentioned,

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I've mentioned my grandmother before on this podcast. And you know, one of the things

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that she had said to me early on was that I was going to have

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three boys. She knew this. I don't know how she knew this because she was

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dead and gone long before I had my first child, but she said I was

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going to have three boys. And she said, and I'll never forget this. They're going

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to do to you what you did to me and your grandfather. And not

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in a bad way, but just like, you know, you're going to have a lot

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of the same experiences that we had raising you. Because I, I mean, I live

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with my mom. And when, I'll never forget when my grandmother, my parents got

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divorced at a really young age. My grandparents told my mom, listen, you've got a

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great job. You should save your money so you can buy a house. Come live

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with us, Bring Randy. And we all lived in the same town in New Jersey.

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And so I, you know, I was kind of raised in a multi generational household

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where I had, I had a grandfather and a grandmother. I had two mothers,

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basically. Yeah, you did. So, yeah. But my grandmother always said, yeah,

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what you did to us, you know, these kids are gonna do to you. And

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man, she was not lying at all. And so that article which

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I will link to in the show notes, was kind of like my

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ode to my grandmother. But I appreciate having

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that opportunity to kind of share and tell that story. And as I've read

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other articles that have come out since then, I'm just like,

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yeah, I mean, Brian Fitton and a few others people that I know have

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written really great articles. But I mean, there's just, there's something to be said for

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that when you can, especially for a more localized publication where you

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can read articles written by people that you actually know in

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real life, which is kind of cool. And that's something that I am

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not, I don't take lightly at all. So listen, I want to ask

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you this because this is around the whole storytelling thing, but

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Peekaboo runs a lot of first person blog style storytelling

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from local parents rather than just traditional journalism. Right.

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But getting that content requires real relationship work.

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Meeting people for coffee, hearing their story, then writing

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custom prompts to actually help them write it. Why does it have to be

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that hands on. Well, that's a good question. I keep saying that. That's a

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good question. It really, it gets to the

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heart of people's stories oftentimes because of

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the format and how we're doing this, because we're having it

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written, first person point of view. And not everyone is a writer,

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so not everyone. You know, we talk to people and they get really nervous. They're

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like, well, I want to share my story, but I don't write. And I'm like,

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I promise I can help you through this. Sure. And so in a way, it's

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an opportunity for them to share their voice. And the

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relationship part of it is important because this is the community

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that we live in. And those relationships are so valuable and

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so important and integral to how that story gets

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written and read eventually. And I love

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the process. I love that that is how Peekaboo was

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back in the day. A lot of the stories were first person point of view,

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not all, but a lot of them. And I wanted to carry on that tradition

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because I think it hits you in a different way. I think it makes it

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a little bit more personable. I think it gives people in our community

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an opportunity to share their voice, an opportunity to use their

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words, to share their story. And I don't know that I'd do it

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any other way. I've thought about that a lot. I've actually thought about that recently

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a lot too, of like, oh man, we should get some like writers up in

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here and kind of do more of a interview style. But it's working

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right now how it is, and I love it. And what would you say to

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somebody listening to this that is wondering how they can kind

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of make their imprint here in northwest Arkansas

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with regard to the relationships that are required to be able

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to even do this? Right? Because again, you just reached out to me kind

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of casual, you're like, hey, you want to write an article for this? And I

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was like, because I didn't ask you to write, you came to me. And I

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was like, but again, it's because of a relationship that exists, right?

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Our paths have crossed in a million different ways. And I think

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that one of the things that I've enjoyed about northwest Arkansas, which I want people

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to hear, whether you're relocating here, you're already here.

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I think the minute that you take a moment to just lean into

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what's happening in northwest Arkansas, you'll find a lot

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of like minded people, a lot of folks that are on the same path

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and journey that you Are. And you find that, like. So I have

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a. I feel like I have a kindred connection with what you're doing because

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I identify with it. Right. We're of a similar age range and

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all that. And I think it's important for people to understand that. That

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none of us are alone on this ride that we're on. Right. I mean,

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there's a lot of folks around there, and you'd be surprised who's

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willing to raise their hand and say, I'll help, or how can I help?

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Or yes. What do you need? Right. And I just think

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it's important. And so I drive this home to my kids. I don't know if

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you. I'm assuming you share this with your kids, but relationships mean

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everything. They really. It is the really only economy

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that I have ever operated in, especially here in northwest Arkansas.

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But just in general, you know, your only real value

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is the people that you're able to connect with. Right. That is your true

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worth. It really is. I think it's important. And I think that

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one thing when I. I am an extrovert. Yeah. So I have

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no problem talking to every stranger that exists in our world.

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Right, Right. I got that from my dad, actually, in our June issue. I actually

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wrote the Dad's Corner this month because we have a lot of

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dad stories and the magazine overall. And so I

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wrote it from the perspective of being a daughter, a wife, and a mom.

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Sure. And my dad, he talked to everyone we. Grocery store

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line. And I used to get embarrassed and be like, why do you have to

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talk to every single person? And that's what I do

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now. And I love it. I absolutely love meeting people.

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Strangers are just friends I haven't met yet. Exactly. Exactly.

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But that's. Not everyone. Not everyone can be an extrovert. Not

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everyone can just strike up a conversation with a stranger, and

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that's okay. So I really want to just. Just kind

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of just encourage those out there that if you aren't an extrovert,

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find an extrovert and tag along with them and they will help

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you. Danielle, who is my co host for People of Northwest Arkansas

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podcast, she laughs because she is not the person

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that will go up to people and talk to people. Like, we've gone to events

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together, and we went to the TEDx talks in

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Bentonville, and they had us do an activity where

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we were getting up and we were gonna go talk to a stranger and meet

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them and ask them these questions. And she just leans over and goes, this

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is my worst nightmare. And I was like, I Got you.

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I got you. And she did fine. Just follow my lead. Yeah, she did

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fine. All fine on her own. But she laughs and it's kind of a joke

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amongst us. If we're having a meeting in a coffee shop,

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I'm talking to everybody and then she's meeting all of those people because she

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doesn't have to meet them initially, she gets introduced to them. And

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so find yourself some extroverts to tag along with and,

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you know, go to some places where you can find people like you,

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you know, like go to the coffee shops, the libraries, the music stores, the

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places where you're going to find like minded people. And it's okay, you don't have

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to talk to people either. But relationships are so important and so

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valuable and I love that we're so connected. Like you were saying, I knew you.

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So I reached out to you for the Dads column and you said yes.

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Not everyone in the issue I know initially. And so having

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people who can connect to me with someone else and say, hey, I need a

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story about adoption, or I need to know. I need some people

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recommended to me about childhood cancer. And so then people are

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recommended and then I get to know them and have coffee with them or a

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conversation with them and get to hear their story and kind of present

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it in the way that we're presenting it through a magazine and through an article.

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And it's been really awesome. Yeah. And no, I can only imagine.

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And I mean, again, you know, people always ask, how do you get so many

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people on your podcast? And I'm like, you know, I just made connections with

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people. I mean, it's all relationships. I mean, eventually it took on a life of

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its own. Yes. But at the onset, I tell people all the time, like

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my first 15 or 20 episodes, it was all because of one

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person. One person introduced me to somebody that introduced me to somebody

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that introduced. But I can trace it all back to one individual. So you

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don't. That's awesome. You also don't need to know a gajillion folks. So true.

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You can have a couple of strategic friends. And I guarantee you there's

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one strategic friend out there that's like Danielle, that's that

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extrovert that, you know, has never met a stranger that she didn't

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want to say hi to that will be able to make those

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introductions for you. And it doesn't take much. And I'll give folks another

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tip that I learned from A young man, Dr. Joe

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Daniels, and he did this exercise when he was in grad School

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at the U of A. And he just sat down and had coffee with a

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hundred people. I love that. Like, no agenda. There was

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no ask. Because I always try to make that very clear. I'm not. You know,

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I don't go around asking people for anything. As a matter of fact, I keep

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all my asks in my pocket because I want, you know, you never know.

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When you really need something, then you can make an ask. That's true.

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But, yeah, he did this whole exercise where he just met 100 people for

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coffee. I was one of those. I was privileged enough to be one of them.

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And, yeah, I mean, that for me was. It was just a reminder

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that something as simple as a cup of roasted coffee,

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sitting down for a half an hour and just chatting with somebody and getting to

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understand them, where they come from, their world perspective,

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what they're working on, what really keeps them up at night,

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what wakes them up in the morning, all of these things play into

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it. Because, I mean, again, none of us are. You know, that would.

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I think what people don't understand is that especially for folks that are

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going through things, a lot of times, people tend to

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separate themselves from everybody else, but that's actually the time when you need to be

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connected with other people. I agree. Right. I mean, there are moments and times

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when you need to shut the door from all the outside noise so that you

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can focus on yourself. And that's an ongoing thing. But I think for

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individuals, and I know I'm like this. I thrive

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off of these connections. Like, this is like, you know, and people are like,

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how are you able to do that? I'm like, listen, me doing podcasting

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and interviewing people is like breathing. Right? It's just. It's

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that easy. I don't think about it. I'm not like, oh, this is a chore,

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or whatever. I was. I've been looking forward to this conversation all day long. And

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I've been like, man, I can't wait to. You know, this is like. This is

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like my lunch break for me, that I'm just. I'm just coming and having this

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conversation because it feeds my soul in terms of, you

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know, what matters to me, and I think we all need to

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find that. What does that. And I. I would venture to say that in a

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lot of instances, and I'm going off on a diatribe here, but in a lot

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of instances, it's a good one. It's those connections with other people

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is ultimately what feeds us. That's why. And I'm going back to especially Young

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men that struggle with this even more than young girls. The loneliness

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thing is a curse. And I'm trying to help young men, my sons

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included. I'm going through this with my boys. I have a 19, a 21

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year old and a 16 year old going on 30. But

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I'm trying to get these guys to understand that

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they can't sequester themselves in their room. You know,

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World of Warcraft and all this other stuff. These games are great, but you've got

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to be able to get out and be around people. And, you know, I'm really

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thankful that my sons have started to kind of pick up on that. But I

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know there are people listening to this that are struggling with that, with their kids,

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and it's real. And so my encouragement is to keep

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pushing, keep trying, and sometimes you just need one person

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to make that difference. Right. And to kind of help them out. And so

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that simply is my encouragement. But for any one of us, especially if you're here

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and in northwest Arkansas and you feel alone, I'm telling you that there

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is always an opportunity to do something. From Bella Vista

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down to West Fork, there's always something going on, everything

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in between. So there is no excuse. And you can start out

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small. And I say that. And now as I'm talking about this,

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I realize that there is an event tonight that's at the day that

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we're recording this episode. There is an event that they've never done before

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called speed friending. Oh, and it's fun. Yeah, it is.

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It's just kind of like going through, like, imagine going through and meeting with different

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people that you've never met before. They're doing it at the library now. Originally

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they had set it up for like 30 or 40 people, but they've had an

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overwhelming response. And now all of a sudden. Yeah. All of a sudden they're

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like, we had to move the room from one, you know, and that's a good

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problem to have. I told, I told the programmer that's doing it here at the

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library. I said, that's a good problem to have where you're at the last

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minute having to move the room because you've got. And I

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said, if nothing else, that speaks to the state that we're currently in right

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now that people are lonely. Yeah. And they need, they want, they're

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craving connection. Yeah. And I'm here to tell you that that connection

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can be had in northwest Arkansas for the small price of zero.

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Yeah. Doesn't cost a lot. But you do have to put yourself out there

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and make some connections. Yeah. You have to put yourself out there. And if you're

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one of the people that's part of the organizing of those events or

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you're an extrovert at those events, look for those people. Look

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for the people that are on the fringe. Look for the people that are

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not approaching others and are not being approached. And

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go and approach them and make them feel welcomed and make them feel

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like they belong there. Because there are so many people in this world

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who are not like Randy or I, where we just go in and we

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talk to everybody. There are tons of people that know,

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need to be approached and. Because it

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takes so much guts for an introvert to push themselves out

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there and to go to these events and then they show

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up and no one talks to them. Exactly. And it just. That just sucks.

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Don't let that happen. If you see people standing there by

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themselves, go talk to them. Yeah. I constantly want to be that

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person that's like. And I have no problem talking to everyone. Right.

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Yeah, I have no problem. Well, and it's so funny because. And I will give

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some people hope is actually. I am not a textbook

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extrovert. Okay. I'm actually an ambivert. Okay. Which is, you

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know, an amber version's a real thing. It's been studied. Daniel Pink

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has talked about it. But amber version is somebody that kind of lives in the

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spectrum between introversion and extroversion. I can

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kind of go both ways when I need to. I can be out there and

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you think, oh, man, this guy's a car salesman. You know? But then there are

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times when I am a little bit more reserved, and so I kind of can

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navigate, and I get it. And then I read Susan Cain's book Quiet,

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which is a really good book, especially if you're an introvert and you're

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listening to this and you've never read Susan Cain's book about

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what really makes you tick. That's a good book to read because

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it really is helpful for people to kind of have language

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around how they operate and how they see things. Yes.

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Right. Because I know a lot of people that are very introverted but are very

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successful. Yeah. So, you know. Yeah, for sure. My daughter is an

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introvert. She's in a family of extroverts, bless her

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heart. We'll have to pray for her. That's right.

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Exactly. So she does. Okay. She's so sweet.

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She's so creative, and she actually writes for the magazine. Oh,

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that's. I love that she has the things that she's passionate about

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and does a really great job at writing. She actually is

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an amazing reader too. She's in fifth grade and has a ninth grade reading level.

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I love that she's like, when can we go to the library? She wants to

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go to the library. Yeah. She should be here with you. I know. She should

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be putting her on notice whenever she listens to this episode. We're shaming you because

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you're not at the library today, but it's all good because we know you'll be

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here soon. So. Yes, I'm glad you mentioned that, though, because again,

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you know, doing this magazine has been a family affair for you. Right.

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And I do want to talk just as we wind up a little bit about

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the entrepreneurial heavy lifting that exists. The realities

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of it. You've been really transparent about leaving a stable corporate

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marketing job to come back to serial entrepreneurship. It's been hard.

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There've been late nights. Yes. Family sacrifice.

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Reeducating advertisers on a pricing model that hasn't been

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updated since 2008. What does it actually take to

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keep your momentum going when you're deep in those

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early stage trenches of trying to overcome some of those

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challenges? Yeah, I mean, it's tough at times.

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I think being a little. What is it? What's the word that

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I want to say? Delusional, maybe.

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Might be part of it is, you know, I think that there's got

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to be a little bit of delusion when you're doing something

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this big and doing something that is taking up so much

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of your time, so much of your money, and just so much of

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you as a person. I think the things that

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really keep me moving forward and driving me forward in

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this is the people and the stories

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and this community. Because it is. I just, it's one of those

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things where I can just see that, like, horizon, like,

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we are hitting it, we're getting closer to it and closer to it. I mean,

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it's always going to be a journey. There's not going to be this like, oh,

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we've made it. Because I'm going to always want more because I'm that person that

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I'm like, we're going to do this and now we're going to do this. And

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my husband's like, can we just, can we do good at this for a while?

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Like, can you slow down for a little bit? I'm like, we're going to start

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this thing and this thing and this thing and this thing. You know, we have

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a lot of goals. I mean, I have several Year goals that I

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have set for myself and for the publication, for our business.

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And we are. Technically, our business is Peekaboo Family

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Media. And we want to be more than just a

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magazine. The magazine is the heart of it. The magazine

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is the first touch point for people, but it will go beyond

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that. And so I think knowing that we're trying to build more

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keeps me going. I think my team keeps me going. The

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people that are contributing keep me going. Our photographer, the

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advertisers that do believe in us and that are like, yeah, these

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prices make sense. And, yeah, we want to partner with you because it's more than

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just ads, you know, like, we're developing relationships with our

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partners, and we're putting them in our magazine in different ways, and we're

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interacting with them in ways beyond just the

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printed advertisement. Yeah. One of the things that we started

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doing this year is we. Speaking of IRL, we started

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doing these monthly IRLs for Peekaboo, and we

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are meeting with our partners and our

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contributors once a month, right. When the magazine comes out, so they can see it

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first. They can get their hands on it first. And just interacting with them and

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just having time to take pictures. You invited me to one of those. Yeah. And

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I. Yeah, you're invited to the next one, too. We're actually. The next one's going

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to be in Fayetteville. All right. Because we have a lot of. Put me down.

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Well, and also because we. I need to send this out to

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all the podcasts. We did a page of local

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podcasts hosted by Men. Like Men. Podcasts hosted

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like local Men. And so you are on this list. And so. Cool. Cool.

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There you go. So you definitely need to come to it. And it's. I will

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do that. It's a lot of fun. And it's fun to see people's faces and

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get excited to see themselves in print, because it's a novelty.

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It really, truly is. Can I tell you how many copies

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of Peekaboo I have sent around the country? I love it. I sent. I want

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to say, because I have family all over the place, but I sent, like, 15.

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I love it. Of course, my mom got four. She wanted, like,

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send me five. She kept saying, I want more. And then I sent them

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everywhere. Yes. In North America. So, Mama Wilburn, we

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can send you more if you want. I have. I still have plenty of copies

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of that issue, so. No. And so I love that. And that

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speaks of one last question that I have for you. And there was a story

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that kind of stuck with me, and it was the piece that you published from

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a father here in northwest Arkansas writing about his two year old son's battle with

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stage four cancer. And then the social campaign you

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built up around this, you figured out a way to shower

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that family with birthday love. How do you think about the

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relationship between local media

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vulnerability? Because I think whenever we tell a story, we can become

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vulnerable in that place. And then the community compassion

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that exists, especially here in northwest Arkansas, I think it's really

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high. I'm not sure if that's the answer, what you're looking for, what you're

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asking, but I think that there's a lot of people

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that will, that relate to it. Whether

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it's something that they've been touched by or a friend that's been

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touched by it. It also brings awareness to things that

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maybe they weren't aware of before and

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families who need help that maybe aren't getting. You

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know, I think that there are so many

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stories out there about XYZ or

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a person here or person there and not everyone's going to be

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featured. You know, and so when there's, when there's different

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outlets and different media outlets, from TV to radio

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to documentary films to magazines and newspapers,

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there's just so many different media outlets that exist. And so if we're all

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telling all the same stories, we're missing out on

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more people. Sure. And so being able to tell stories of people that maybe

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aren't in every other magazine or in every other

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TV station, that's, you know, there's, I feel like I'm stumbling over.

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I get what you're saying, but I think, and I think people need to understand

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is that first of all, that individual who wrote that article,

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they are not the only father that has a child

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that has, you know, childhood cancer in northwest Arkansas.

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So him writing and being transparent about the challenges that he's

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going through right now with this and struggling as a father seeing. Because I

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don't think any parent wants to see their kid struggle. Right. Or be sick.

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And so it's like, man, you know, they are speaking volumes to

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other parents that may be going through something very similar. Yeah. And that's why I

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think it's important for people to share their testimony, to share what they're going through.

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Because you just never know who's also going through the same exact

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thing. And I guarantee you there's somebody going through the same

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exact thing. Oh, absolutely. When we announced that we were purchasing

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the brand and bringing the magazine back, a woman had reached out to me

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who I've Known for years, and her kids are

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older. And she told me a story about how when Peekaboo was in

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print before and she read a story about

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adhd, a parent had shared their personal story and their

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journey with their child's adhd. And this was probably

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back in, like, probably somewhere between 2008 and

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2010, I want to say, is when this story probably came out. And

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there wasn't as much information about it then. And she was sitting in a

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doctor's office, read the story, and she just started going, huh, well,

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that's interesting. And because of that parent's story

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in Peekaboo magazine, she was able to ask her

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daughter's doctor about ADHD and her child and

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got her child on medication, and it changed her life.

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And, like, I get goosebumps. I get kind of emotional, because

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that is powerful. Yeah. And that's just one story.

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That's just one story. Exactly. And so. So how

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many more stories like that exist to where not only do we

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feel seen as people and in this community, but we can

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relate and we can connect, and who knows if somebody is

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gonna pass by somebody that they read about and hopefully

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they take the opportunity to meet them. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I

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think that is a clear answer for why

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Peekaboo magazine, why you started it back up in

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2025. I mean, just answering that question is

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perfect for that. So. Yeah, I appreciate that. So a couple of rapid fire

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questions for you as we close out. We've put you through a number

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of things. What's your go to casual date night spot? Ooh, a casual

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date night spot is going to be Parkside Public. Okay. In

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downtown Rogers. Okay. Parkside Public. Love,

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love their burgers, love all their loaded

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fries or messy fries or whatever they're called. They have, like, they have a few

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different varieties, and they're really good. They're really good. Okay. Parkside Public.

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All right. And what about where do you like to go to fuel

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up on coffee during a big production week? Oh, obviously

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Confident Coffee. There we go. Okay. If you follow me at all, you know that

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I'm going to be at Confident Coffee. It is one of her Cool. So,

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yeah. And she's out in the community doing a lot of great things. She really

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is. But honestly, there are so many great coffee shops around here too. And I

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like to frequently all of them. And so thinking about that guy who did the

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hundred coffee dates, I was like, I kind of want to do that. So many

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of my coffee times are meetings. And

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so right now. And so it's just like, nice to have coffee and get to

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know somebody that you don't know. I want to do that again, man.

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Yeah. Well, listen, Danielle, this has been a great conversation. It's a

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real reminder that no matter how fast the tech moves

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and it is moving fast, people still want to be seen. They want to

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hold something in their hands, and they want to read a story about their neighbor.

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What Danielle and her family are doing with Peekaboo is exactly the kind of

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work that keeps this region from losing itself. In all the growth,

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they're making sure families feel seen, connected, and

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celebrated. The legacy is in great hands. So we want to

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thank you so much for joining us on this episode. Thank you for having me.

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Absolutely. It's a lot of fun. To find a physical copy of Peekaboo

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magazine, check local libraries. The Fayetteville Public Library carries it.

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Museums, family focused spots from Fayetteville up to Bella

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Vista and Siloam Springs. You can explore their themes and

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digital [email protected] and

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follow the beautiful layout on Instagram

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Peekaboomagazine NWA all right, and if you

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haven't yet, search your favorite podcast app. For people of Northwest

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Arkansas, Danielle and her co host, the other Danielle, are

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telling more of these great stories on a regular basis.

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That's a wrap on this episode of I Am Northwest Arkansas. If this conversation left

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you with something, a name to look up, a magazine to grab, or

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just a little more appreciation for what's being built here, pass it along,

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leave us a review and share it with a friend. And as always,

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keep showing up for this community because it will keep showing up for

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you. I'm Randy Wilburn, and this has been I Am

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Northwest Arkansas. Peace.

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