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We Couldn’t Have Predicted This: Integrating the SHED Retreat with Shauna Stewart
Episode 3428th November 2025 • Connected Pleasure Podcast • Kayla Moore
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In this intimate and heartfelt episode, Kayla and her co-host sit down—one week after returning from the SHED Retreat—to reflect on what truly unfolded inside this powerful container.

After a full season exploring what it means to shed through the lens of the Year of the Snake on Shauna's podcast Life Turned On, the retreat was the culmination: 10 women, two facilitators, one island, and a weekend that cracked all expectations wide open.

Here, they share:

  • What surprised them the most about the group dynamic and the depth of transformation
  • Why the retreat felt like a womb space—a cocoon of safety, softness, and feminine frequency
  • How quickly the women bonded, supported one another, and dropped into profound vulnerability
  • The behind-the-scenes moments—the lodging mix-ups, the “meat hook” underworld meditation, the spontaneous tattoo
  • The power of the singing circle, the ceremonies, and the shared rituals
  • What it felt like to re-enter real life after living in community, connection, and sacred feminine energy
  • Their favorite moments, from spoken-desire rituals to witnessing women see and honor one another fully

This episode is a love letter to the women who showed up, the magic they created together, and the reminder that transformation happens fastest when we are willing to be witnessed.

If you’ve ever wondered what actually happens inside a transformational retreat—or if you’re craving deeper sisterhood, community, and embodied healing—this conversation will open your heart.

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Speaker A:

Welcome to the Connected Pleasure Podcast.

Speaker A:

I'm Kayla Moore, sacred disruptor and sovereign guide, here to share liberation wisdom for sexual healing and feminine rising.

Speaker A:

This is a space to return to your pleasure, your power and your body, while remembering your deep connection to the earth and to each other.

Speaker A:

Each week we explore what it means to lead with soft power and to weave a world rooted in embodiment, love and connection.

Speaker A:

Together, we are holding the frequency of.

Speaker B:

What we want this world to look and feel like as we collectively weave together a new paradigm shift called the Great Turning.

Speaker B:

Because pleasure is not frivolous, it is foundational and it's time to come home.

Speaker A:

This podcast is for education and inspiration only.

Speaker B:

If you're wanting to explore pleasure more fully for yourself, I invite you to go deeper with me through the offerings.

Speaker A:

Linked in the show notes or through.

Speaker B:

The offerings of my guests.

Speaker B:

If you're unsure whether one of these containers or a therapeutic approach would best support you, you're welcome to schedule a.

Speaker A:

Free 45 minute consultation with me.

Speaker B:

Together we can explore what path is in your best interest.

Speaker B:

And if I am not the right fit, I'll be glad to connect you with the resources you need.

Speaker B:

Welcome, my loves, back to the Connected Pleasure Podcast.

Speaker B:

I'm Kayla, your host.

Speaker B:

I go by she, her, hers, pronouns and today I have a special episode of my co host, Shauna and I, who led the Shed Retreat.

Speaker B:

Together.

Speaker B:

We are processing how we felt like the Shed Retreat went, what we took away from it and what we are hoping that people in the future that want to attend the next one know about it and can feel about it.

Speaker B:

So Shauna and I are releasing the same episode on both of our podcasts and so this is your lead in into this episode and then you will get to hear us dive in and talk all about the Shed Retreat.

Speaker A:

Enjoy.

Speaker C:

Hi friends.

Speaker C:

Welcome to this very special episode.

Speaker C:

Today we're doing something that we're very excited about since the moment Shed ended and that is sitting down together, Kayla and I, to talk about what actually happened inside the Shed Retreat and what surprised us.

Speaker C:

So we spent all of season four talking to different guests about their stories of what they have been shedding throughout the Year of the Snake.

Speaker C:

And we culminated that season with a retreat on Bashan island with 10 women, two facilitators, so 12 people in total.

Speaker C:

And we thought we would just talk about and integrate that experience together because it was so much more than just a weekend away.

Speaker C:

And as we'll talk about throughout this episode, what unfolded just completely surprised us and we couldn't have predicted it.

Speaker C:

So I'm here with Kayla Moore.

Speaker C:

She's my co host and we just had the best time together, working together, setting the retreat up, executing it, and now we get to talk about it afterwards.

Speaker C:

So glad you're here, Kayla.

Speaker B:

Thank you.

Speaker B:

Always glad to talk to you and have these conversations.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

So how are you feeling A week after the retreat?

Speaker C:

We met together a week ago.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

How are you feeling?

Speaker B:

I think, like a lot of people have mentioned in our chat, it's hard.

Speaker B:

It's hard integrating back into real life because we had such an amazing time together.

Speaker B:

I feel like the frequency that we were all at at the end of the retreat was just on, like, Cloud 9.

Speaker B:

We were all vibing with each other and didn't want to leave this, like, womb, this womb space that we had created together.

Speaker B:

And then entering back into normal life.

Speaker B:

It's like, okay, not everything is as fun and smooth and easy and, like, empowering as this space was, but I'm just.

Speaker B:

I'm taking away so much from our experience and I just.

Speaker B:

The amount of gratitude that I had leaving that space was immense.

Speaker B:

I really felt like this is what abundance feels like.

Speaker B:

This is what abundance of community feels like.

Speaker B:

And I will take that with me forever, hopefully.

Speaker B:

So, yeah, it's a little hard getting back into normal life after an experience like that, but it's the memories and the feelings that we all shared are just beyond anything that I could have ever imagined.

Speaker B:

How about you?

Speaker C:

Yeah, Yeah, I think the same life is lifing, but it does feel good to just.

Speaker C:

I felt like I was wrapped up in a weighted blanket all weekend.

Speaker C:

And I know some people, weighted blankets aren't for them, but that just.

Speaker C:

It, like, feels like the ultimate comfort.

Speaker C:

And I felt like the.

Speaker C:

The connection was like, just that palpable.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Like I could feel it all over my body.

Speaker C:

And then I just remember leaving the retreat and it was on an island in Washington state, and so we had to take a ferry back to the mainland.

Speaker C:

And sitting in my car waiting in the ferry line and tears were just, like, streaming down my face and I felt somebody used the word rung out at the end of the retreat.

Speaker C:

And I think that that's the best description to describe how I felt.

Speaker C:

Like it was a tiredness from, like, not from stress, not from busyness, not from, like, hustle or anything like that, but just like this tiredness of, like, feeling it all, just feeling it all and letting my body just, like, sink into that sensation and the feeling and like the warmth.

Speaker C:

You use the word Womb space, which is what we very much tried to cultivate in that space.

Speaker C:

And I just felt like my whole body, like, just stayed in that little cocoon and felt the weight of it for days.

Speaker C:

And while also having to emerge with the bright, shiny lights.

Speaker B:

Yes, absolutely.

Speaker B:

I also had the tears streaming down my face as I was driving to the ferry.

Speaker B:

And again, just feeling immense gratitude, immense love for all the participants.

Speaker B:

Just thinking about the journeys that each person took.

Speaker B:

We spent, you know, a relatively short amount of time together, only a couple days, and yet I felt like at the end of it, I knew each person's story and each person's, like, next step that they wanted to take in their lives.

Speaker B:

And it's just so special to have witnessed all of these, again, pretty quick transformations that happened over the arc of a couple days.

Speaker B:

Yeah, there's just nothing like it.

Speaker B:

There's.

Speaker B:

There's no real words that I feel like, can completely encompass witnessing this group move as one together and really support each other through all the different experiences that they are having and all the different transitions that they're going through.

Speaker B:

And it just.

Speaker B:

It really felt like everyone was held so well and no one was on the outside.

Speaker B:

We all really, like, banded together and made sure everyone felt held and safe in this space.

Speaker B:

Mm.

Speaker C:

I thought it was fascinating because to your point, like, it was such a short amount of time, and the whole time.

Speaker C:

I know I've shared this with you before, but, like, the whole time I just, like, had my hands to, like, my temples, and I just, like, watch the conversations and the level of vulnerability, but then also the level of, like, showing up with such deep wisdom to support one another in really profound and deep ways.

Speaker C:

And not like a here, I'm going to fix you, or, I know better kind of way, but in a, like, I see you.

Speaker C:

Here's something that might, like, I'm offering this, but, like, it was a lot anyway.

Speaker C:

It was just.

Speaker C:

There's, like, a purity to it, just a depth of connection that was blowing my mind the whole time because it happened so fast.

Speaker C:

I've been in experiences that have been much longer, and that happened for sure in a similar way, but we also had, like, the luxury of time to cultivate that.

Speaker C:

And I felt like that group, just the moment they all took their seats, they were in it to win.

Speaker C:

Like, they were, like, linked arms, metaphorically, and, like, we going on a journey together.

Speaker C:

And I just.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I just kept, like, had my hands on my temples watching everything.

Speaker C:

I'm like, what the.

Speaker C:

Like, it was just magic.

Speaker C:

Like, it Was just pure.

Speaker C:

Like, everybody showed up for themselves.

Speaker C:

Everyone showed up for one another without overextending or over giving and was able to receive the wisdom from the other people in the group with such open and whole hearts.

Speaker C:

And it was just, like, the most amazing thing to watch.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So I feel like that's a testament to, hopefully, the marketing that you and I put out there.

Speaker B:

I think the people that were meant to be there were there.

Speaker B:

And, like, you're saying, it wasn't like, we had to pull them into the space and get them prepared to be, you know, in a vulnerable space, in a space where they were ready to really dive deep, you know, Night one, we, like, went into, quote, unquote, the underworld.

Speaker B:

I. I did a guided meditation where we went into the underworld.

Speaker B:

And, you know, we dove right into it from the very beginning.

Speaker B:

And so it.

Speaker B:

Yeah, everybody was just, like, game for whatever we were bringing to the space.

Speaker B:

And while also, like, attuning to their own boundaries.

Speaker B:

And we gave plenty of space to make sure that if an activity or something we were doing was not in alignment with someone in that moment, that they had full reign to say no and to exit the space.

Speaker B:

And, you know, everyone was supportive of that and also was willing to, like, lean into their edges where they felt comfortable, too.

Speaker B:

And just as a host, as a facilitator, I just am so appreciative to people that are able and willing.

Speaker B:

And, yeah, it just.

Speaker B:

It made the dynamic so much more vibrant and so much more exciting to move through that.

Speaker B:

Everybody just showed up willing to go for it.

Speaker B:

And I'm just really proud of all of them.

Speaker B:

And I'm sure every group will have its own dynamic, but I really enjoyed that about this group, that sometimes we could just, like, step back and let them support each other.

Speaker B:

And it wasn't a big deal for us to give them some space to be in their own kind of vibe with each other and supporting each other, which was amazing.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

One of the things that I think is funny too, or, like, kind of like the moment I knew that this group was gonna, like, rock this thing, was you had expressed a little bit of trepidation before everyone arrived of, like, so I'm doing this underworld meditation, and there's a meat hook involved.

Speaker C:

Do you think that's too much?

Speaker C:

I'm like, well, we'll find out.

Speaker C:

And the meat hook metaphor and experience, I think, like, people, everyone leaned in on it.

Speaker C:

And as soon as that happened, I was like, okay, this is gonna be a group that's game.

Speaker C:

And I also Just, you know, there were some logistics that didn't go exactly as planned upon arrival.

Speaker C:

There's a little, like, venue mix up with rooms, and we had to play little musical rooms right before starting.

Speaker C:

And so that could have really set off the tone.

Speaker C:

It could have really ruined the experience from the very beginning.

Speaker C:

Or people could have walked in grumpy because they unpacked and then they had to pack and move and all of that.

Speaker C:

And not one person complained.

Speaker C:

They just, like, shrugged their shoulder and like, eh, it happens, and happy to do this and that.

Speaker C:

And everyone managed to be perfectly placed with the right roommate without us knowing a whole lot outside of just what was on their registration form.

Speaker C:

So that was kind of fun.

Speaker C:

But, yeah, I think that this whole podcast is us just, like, swooning and celebrating.

Speaker C:

Everyone who shares showed up because it really.

Speaker C:

We can do all this work to plan logistics, to plan content, to be in the facilitator roles, but at the end of the day, for people to get anything out of an experience like this, they.

Speaker C:

I mean, you have to show up and.

Speaker C:

And you have to show up and be ready to play, you know, play with yourself, play with other people.

Speaker C:

And everyone did it.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I do think that that's a unique part of this retreat.

Speaker B:

It was just that way because of the lodging situation and that there were rooms that had shared spaces.

Speaker B:

So we had two people to a room for most of the rooms.

Speaker B:

But I think that added an element of companionship for a lot of people.

Speaker B:

We didn't dive super deep into some of those relationships in terms of asking people about their roommate situation.

Speaker B:

But I think a lot of people, like you said, really gelled well with their roommates and added another person to have in depth conversations with.

Speaker B:

Because some people did say they went back to their rooms after a day of doing all the things or even during breaks and had longer conversations with their roommate.

Speaker B:

And so I think it added a level of depth to the processing that was able to happen on the retreat too, which is so beautiful because I will just say, as an introverted person, I'm always very wary of having to share space with somebody, especially on a retreat where I feel like if I'm around people that much all day, I'm going to want to go somewhere where I can just be and not have to talk to anyone.

Speaker B:

But I think, again, it's a testament to the women that showed up and because there was plenty of introverted people there and everyone really felt like they could step in and have a moment to share when they wanted to share and then have side conversations when they felt like they needed that aspect.

Speaker B:

And so, yeah, I don't know if that will always be the case for this retreat, moving forward, depending on what venue we use.

Speaker B:

But I think that was actually it.

Speaker B:

You know, as people that created the retreat, there's always a little bit like, oh, are people gonna get along?

Speaker B:

Is that gonna be okay?

Speaker B:

And it turned out perfect.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

What was nice about this particular facility was they had these little cabins or lodges.

Speaker C:

And so those who shared, shared a cabin.

Speaker C:

One person had a king bed with a door, and then another person had a twin bed in kind of a nook area on the opposite side of the cabin.

Speaker C:

So I think that was reflected in some of the surveys that it was nice to be able to have your own private space, but then be able to have this communal space where you could share and connect, but then go to your own space at the end.

Speaker C:

So it was.

Speaker C:

I think that it was a nice, Nice facility for that.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And I did like, too, that we had.

Speaker B:

So we did walk and talks both mornings.

Speaker B:

The second morning was a little less lighter, less people.

Speaker B:

I think we were all pretty tired after the full long day on Saturday.

Speaker B:

But I just felt like I.

Speaker B:

The only retreat I've been on was a big retreat with like 150 women.

Speaker B:

Some women did stay together in groups just for housing costs and whatnot.

Speaker B:

I have to stay by myself.

Speaker B:

Cause I didn't know anyone.

Speaker B:

But, you know, there was.

Speaker B:

There wasn't a ton of time, except for maybe at meals to get to know people.

Speaker B:

And again, with that many people, it's hard to really get to know somebody deeper than, like, a conversation over, like, 10 to 15 minutes.

Speaker B:

And it was nice to have a little bit of time that was outside of the, like, actual workshoppy times that we had to just get to know each other as people and talk about random stuff.

Speaker B:

That it was like we were still in the bubble together, but we could just be humans and we didn't have to be, you know, like, on it all the time.

Speaker B:

And we also ate all of our meals together.

Speaker B:

So I think it really kept the cohesiveness that we could, you know, show up in the times that we needed to show up to do the deep work.

Speaker B:

And then we could also have time where we just sat and talked about, you know, whatever, about motherhood, about what we were gonna buy at the little shops in town, got coffee together.

Speaker C:

Who's gonna get a tattoo?

Speaker B:

Who's gonna get a tattoo?

Speaker B:

We had somebody that got a tattoo on the ret little meeting space that we had was literally right across this little pathway from a tattoo parlor.

Speaker B:

So, yeah, somebody decided that they wanted to go get a tattoo during the afternoon portion on Saturday.

Speaker B:

And that, I mean, it was just amazing.

Speaker B:

It's.

Speaker B:

It's so cool to have, like, that memory of, yeah, I got this tattoo on this really amazing women's retreat.

Speaker B:

So, so special.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

And then we have other gals who are making appointments or have already made appointments to get tattoos together.

Speaker C:

So that was fun without going outside of the agreements or of the retreat container.

Speaker C:

So not getting too specific, Was there a specific highlight of the experience for you?

Speaker C:

You mentioned the walk and talks.

Speaker C:

Was that it?

Speaker C:

Or was there another moment?

Speaker B:

I think for me personally, it was.

Speaker B:

The singing circle, for me, is really a powerful moment.

Speaker B:

That was something that actually came through for me on the plane ride home from the big retreat that I did.

Speaker B:

I've been a singer my whole life, and then I went from being a music major to then deciding I was going to go into psychology.

Speaker B:

And so I let go of music for, like, 10 years beyond just, like, singing in my shower, in the car.

Speaker B:

After having been in music and been in choir for a really long time, and then after having my son, I decided I wanted to get back into voice lessons.

Speaker B:

And that has been a huge, like, reclaiming of my voice and also, like, moving through some of the trauma that, like, small t trauma that I experienced just in the music world.

Speaker B:

When I was growing up, there were certain rules and certain things that we learned that are different now, how they teach voice and teach choir.

Speaker B:

And so just being able to, like, reclaim that love in myself and grow in my confidence in music, and then wanting to pair that also with a healing modality and also sacred feminine work, it's kind of like trying to bridge all the things that I do together is really cool.

Speaker B:

And so I created this singing circle, and I usually do it with woman that.

Speaker B:

She and I actually went to high school together, and we were in vocal ensemble together, and she and I connected through our, like, Facebook alumni group that I was looking for somebody to help me with this.

Speaker B:

And so she and I have done it, like, three times together, but she was unable to be at this retreat, unfortunately, so I decided to do it myself.

Speaker B:

And it was a big step for me to be the one leading it, as well as, like, trying to help everyone else feel the vibration, feel like this was something that was helpful for them.

Speaker B:

And moving through the, like, arc that I wanted to create with the circle.

Speaker B:

We started with some Guided meditation.

Speaker B:

And then I had people burn things in my burn pot.

Speaker B:

That was also fun with trying to not turn the fire alarm off with the smoke.

Speaker B:

But it was really a powerful moment for people.

Speaker B:

Even when there was a little bit of like logistic figuring out where we were going to burn things so that we didn't set the fire alarm off.

Speaker B:

But it, it ended up being really powerful for people.

Speaker B:

And some people, that was like their jam and some people, it was definitely a super edge for them, but everyone participated in the way that they could and felt comfortable doing.

Speaker B:

And you know, I had planned some, like, either we can stick to super basic or we can do a little bit hard, or we could do really hard on some of the songs and everybody was game to do whatever.

Speaker B:

So for me personally, that was just a really powerful moment of like stepping into this priestess energy that I've really been wanting to hone in on, as well as getting to share my love of music with people.

Speaker B:

And it being reciprocated or being received really well and a lot of people enjoying it.

Speaker B:

It's.

Speaker B:

I mean, it's hard to like, put yourself out there and be vulnerable in ways when it's something that most people have probably never done and you don't know how it's going to land it.

Speaker B:

It actually went really, really well.

Speaker B:

So I think that was my favorite part of it.

Speaker B:

And just I think how we've already said so many times, I think this being the first time that we've done this together, you know, I don't think either of us had any concerns, but we didn't really know what it would look like to facilitate together.

Speaker B:

And we both had planned different things that we knew would go well together.

Speaker B:

But.

Speaker B:

But, you know, not having done it, you just don't know what it's actually going to look like.

Speaker B:

And I feel like we both settled into the spaces that are our spaces because you are also going through a transformation in your brand and your business right now.

Speaker B:

And I felt like I saw your piece of you that you're stepping into show up.

Speaker B:

I felt like I was very much stepping into a new space for myself and I saw that reflected in the circle as well.

Speaker B:

That I didn't really think as much around the cohesiveness as what actually happened either.

Speaker B:

I, you know, we always hope that people are going to get along, but like you said, I very much thought it would be more individual journeys with people supporting each other.

Speaker B:

But the fact that I could bring in a lot of sacred feminine elements, you brought in a lot of Sexual elements.

Speaker B:

And of course, I'm very versed in sexual elements, too, but I think I brought a little bit more of the sacred feminine spit into the space, and everyone was down for both sides of it.

Speaker B:

And I think we really weaved it well together, where it was like, we're working on sexuality and pleasure, but it's also about who we are as women and, like, taking back our power, really feeling that empowerment and feeling like we have built this community together.

Speaker B:

I really just feel like the strength of the community was probably my favorite part at the end because it was just.

Speaker B:

It was like, yeah, we had all linked arms and just so much support, so much love, so much wisdom.

Speaker B:

So many, like, different ages of people coming together to share their own story of where they are in life and then supporting each other through everyone's transition.

Speaker B:

It's just that I think that overall arc was my favorite part.

Speaker C:

Yeah, we had people from probably mid-30s to mid-60s, or early to mid-60s, would you say?

Speaker C:

And again, like, probably people who never would have, like, crossed paths in everyday life, just showing up and being all in with each other.

Speaker C:

So.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

It was just beautiful.

Speaker B:

What about you?

Speaker B:

What was your favorite part?

Speaker C:

What was my favorite part?

Speaker C:

I think probably the very last minute of.

Speaker C:

In that, like, we did an exercise where we took turns speaking one another's desires into each other's ears.

Speaker C:

And it was one of those exercises that I wasn't sure we were gonna get to because there was an Another little, like, mix up with breakfast.

Speaker C:

So it kind of threw the logistics of the schedule off that day.

Speaker C:

And so.

Speaker C:

But I was like, in my heart, I'm like, they cannot leave without doing this exercise.

Speaker C:

So, like, come hell or high water, yes, we're gonna make this happen.

Speaker C:

And.

Speaker C:

And then also there was also this, like, but what if I, like, push so hard for it and it doesn't work?

Speaker C:

Kind of like doubt.

Speaker C:

And like, the fir very first round, people were, like, sitting up and like, whoa.

Speaker C:

Like, what was that?

Speaker C:

And so it was.

Speaker C:

It felt good that we were able to, like, everything worked out the way it was supposed to work out.

Speaker C:

And I think that it was a nice note, especially after the morning ceremony with singing together and having that really sweet collective ceremony and experience that you led and then going in and kind of like, you know, we spent all this time, like, shedding.

Speaker C:

The theme was to shed the snake skin and then to leave people with this picture of, like, what's underneath, like, what did we reveal and have them fully embody and feel and see it in A really cool, meaningful way.

Speaker C:

So I think that was probably, probably the highlight.

Speaker C:

And then I was just like, I mean, I was just ugly crying once I hit my car, but I was like tearing up most so.

Speaker C:

So at so many different points throughout the experience.

Speaker C:

And usually it had to do with like somebody just showing up and saying I see you to somebody else and having it so well received and just those little moments where we're in a world that is trying to pull us apart so rapidly from technology to politics and all of this stuff.

Speaker C:

And I think that, you know, I have 20 years of experience in the tourism industry and one of the key messages there is like the importance of experience and purpose, you know, face to face interactions and how they're, how important they are to our humanity and to like the global collective.

Speaker C:

And I think what we saw there was that.

Speaker C:

And then I didn't realize.

Speaker C:

And I don't know if I've shared this with you, Kayla, yet, but before we.

Speaker C:

I go into these retreats or these experiences, I do a sex magic ritual.

Speaker C:

And when I did it for shed, I went in with the intention of praying for like using pleasure to pray, praying for every single individual.

Speaker C:

So like I went through all their registration forms, like thought about their intentions and like just hoping that these individuals would get what they were wanting, get what they were coming for.

Speaker C:

And then as you know, because you've done this before, you get into the practice, and at some point you ask the question, what would you have?

Speaker C:

And when I asked that question, what actually like the vision that came to my head was this group of women standing in a circle holding hands, and they were all facing each other and like individually being so well resourced and grounded as individuals, but having so much overflow that they're sharing it with one another, receiving it from another one another.

Speaker C:

And then they like, in this vision, this picture, word picture thing, they like turn outwards and then they walk into the world with all that resourced energy and love and you use the word abundance of community and connection.

Speaker C:

And they like go out into the world, out into their families, their workplaces, the communities.

Speaker C:

And now they get to like give that to others without over giving, which is where women tend to get conditioned into.

Speaker C:

Is this over giving place from depletion versus actually like cultivating this resourced energy that they're able to pour into the rest of their lives.

Speaker C:

And so I had this vision and I was just like, I kind of like when I came out of it, I was like, that's interesting.

Speaker C:

I mean, this is supposed to be an individual journey.

Speaker C:

So maybe that's, like, for down the road.

Speaker C:

And then part of your meditation Friday night was this, like, group of women coming around, and I was like, oh, this is.

Speaker C:

This is part of it, you know, and so I got excited about that and.

Speaker C:

But then by the end, I'm like, oh, like, it all just happened.

Speaker C:

Yeah, like, that's a great.

Speaker C:

Exactly what happened throughout that whole retreat.

Speaker C:

And now everybody's out in the world.

Speaker C:

When we get done recording this, we're going to jump on a call with them.

Speaker C:

But we have Kayla mentioned earlier in this a chat.

Speaker C:

So we have a group thread that started a week or two before the retreat so people could start to get to know each other a little bit.

Speaker C:

And you could see the connections and threads of community already forming there.

Speaker C:

But it's been very active afterwards and just hearing what people are doing and asking for suggestions and giving them and providing them.

Speaker C:

And so anyway, I think that.

Speaker C:

I think the thing is, is.

Speaker C:

And this is one of the things I said at the retreat is like, pleasure medicine works.

Speaker C:

And when we are resourced and we're accessing and we're able to tap into our sexual energy without shame, without stigma, without all these social conditions, like, it doesn't only change our lives, it change.

Speaker C:

It changes the lives of everyone we touch.

Speaker C:

And pleasure gets this bad rap for being selfish.

Speaker C:

And there are many distorted versions of pleasure out there that certainly are.

Speaker C:

But when you access, like, the purity of your own pleasure in the most, like, intimate and profound ways, there's no way of polluting that.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker C:

Like, it's unpollutable.

Speaker C:

And then that's like, the love and the generosity and the kindness that is going out into the world and making it maybe just a little less lonely and maybe a little less disconnected and maybe a little less like, you want to punch your neighbor in the face, you know?

Speaker C:

And, yeah, so I think that that was.

Speaker C:

I think it was like I went from, like, what the fuck is happening?

Speaker C:

To, like, the next day in my morning meditation on Monday morning, I was like, oh, like, everything I dreamed of unintentionally, like, happened in this weekend.

Speaker C:

I thought it would be, like, down the road or something, but it was actually meant.

Speaker C:

That vision was meant for this weekend.

Speaker C:

These people.

Speaker C:

And something I was going to say, too, is I think we were talking about the number of people or the people who showed up being the right people.

Speaker C:

It has been a belief of mine.

Speaker C:

I've just had to trust that process, especially when I can get my business numbers, you know, brain it's like, the right people will come.

Speaker C:

The right people will come.

Speaker C:

And we had room for one more person, technically, on this retreat, and had one more person come, I think it would have changed the dynamic.

Speaker C:

I think, like, one more would have been too much.

Speaker C:

And.

Speaker C:

And I really believe that every single person who was there was the right person to be there for that moment, for that group.

Speaker C:

And so it was really nice to be able to.

Speaker C:

It's nice to be able to trust things, and, you know, there's some risk and some magic involved, but.

Speaker C:

And then see em work out.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I think we have time for maybe one more quick response for both of us, and then I want you to talk a little bit about, like, the aftercare that we have for people so that they know if they come to the next retreat, how they get woven into the bigger community that you're.

Speaker B:

We are building.

Speaker B:

What do you think was your transformation that you went through?

Speaker B:

Because as you were talking about that, I'll just share mine really quickly.

Speaker B:

I feel like my edge also was trying to be a facilitator, but also be okay to be a human being.

Speaker B:

Like, in the beginning, when we had to do a room swap, you know, I. I felt like, oh, no, I'm not that host that has everything together.

Speaker B:

In the beginning, I was in a room where I had to move stuff, and so I, like, quickly was, like, grabbing everything, and I was given, you know, the offering of help, and I was like, no, no, no.

Speaker B:

Like, you guys need to be the ones to, like, settle in and get comfy.

Speaker B:

And I'm just, like, gonna get out of here and get to my own room.

Speaker B:

But we had a few more moments throughout the weekend where I did need help.

Speaker B:

You know, we had some few issues with food here and there.

Speaker B:

We had just, like, helping each other check out on Sunday.

Speaker B:

And I feel like my arc was also just, like, allowing myself to ask for help, something that I think is hard to do for all women, and being able to, like, lean into that community again instead of feeling like, yes, of course, as hosts, like, we want to be holding the container and holding the frequency and all of that, which I think we did beautifully.

Speaker B:

But there were a few moments where it was.

Speaker B:

Was, like, people were willing to jump in and help where they could.

Speaker B:

And my instinct was to be like, no, no, no.

Speaker B:

Like, I got it.

Speaker B:

Don't worry about it.

Speaker B:

Like, we're here to serve you.

Speaker B:

But it really did come full circle of, like, even though we were there to hold the space and hold the circle, people were Willing to step out of that and also take care.

Speaker B:

We really wanted people to like not over care because most of the women in that space do over care.

Speaker B:

But there were so many times where you know, one person would get up to get a snack and ask if somebody else needed anything.

Speaker B:

There were just, there were so many moments of women like offering care to each other hopefully in a like grounded space that didn't feel like they were overdoing and also being on the receiving end of that of like accepting help where normally I would not.

Speaker B:

And that is also, you know, a through line in my life and in my family too of women being very like self sufficient.

Speaker B:

So I just, I felt a lot of that community care towards us as well and towards everyone else that I was not expecting.

Speaker B:

And I hope to keep growing in that because I think that's part of being in a community that we have to.

Speaker B:

I think a lot of us always want to give and it's hard to receive sometimes.

Speaker B:

So yeah, I really enjoyed that part.

Speaker B:

Is there anything that you feel like was a transformation for you?

Speaker C:

I think it felt like the conclusion of a transformation, I suppose.

Speaker C:

Like I felt like this whole year has been this call to shed and I've shed a number of things including like part of my business model so I could step into being able to go so much deeper with people in these one on one or I guess one on ten experiences, but in person, in depth, multiple day experiences.

Speaker C:

And I think that it was affirmation that I made the right choice and that I am doing what I'm supposed to be doing.

Speaker C:

And that like what I said earlier, that pleasure medicine works and watching every single person's individual transformation and then the group's transformation together I think just affirmed the year long transformation I've been in.

Speaker C:

And so it felt like, felt like the bow on top for me.

Speaker C:

I think so.

Speaker C:

So you wanted to talk about aftercare?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

So after this we are jumping on an integration call with our group.

Speaker C:

So that will be part of it.

Speaker C:

But there was this real ask and hunger for continued connection and I mean people were throwing out like call me at 2 o' clock in the morning.

Speaker C:

No, for real, I mean it.

Speaker C:

So there's a couple things.

Speaker C:

Kayla in her priestess role is leading a local temple group for a group and I'll let her speak to that.

Speaker C:

But I'm also in the process of setting up what's going to be called the liminal lounge.

Speaker C:

So everyone who participates in retreats or my coaching containers will be invited into this space for continued Connection and processing.

Speaker C:

And it'll range from casual Q&As to, like, celebrations, brags, and gratitudes to content on occasion, but just fostering connection, because between the people who are opting in at this level, because the people who are opting in, like, they're trading their time with their family, with their other responsibilities, they're trading money to be a part of these.

Speaker C:

And, like, it requires that level of investment, I think, to really feel the level of connection that I want to cultivate in that kind of space and intimacy.

Speaker C:

And so that will be coming soon.

Speaker C:

But do you want to talk about some of the temple work that you're doing?

Speaker B:

Sure.

Speaker B:

And we also will be planning on having, like, a reunion dinner probably at Shauna's house.

Speaker B:

And the plan is, like, each retreat can kind of build on.

Speaker B:

On this community that we're already creating, so you get added into this beautiful community, and people can meet each other.

Speaker B:

So I think that is really special.

Speaker B:

In the interest of time, I will go quickly.

Speaker B:

So both Shauna and I are part of what is called the Living Temple.

Speaker B:

It's a sacred, feminine temple and community that we are both a part of.

Speaker B:

I am a local temple host in Gig Harbor, Washington, and that means that community members or members in the Living Temple can come to my house during the eight Earth Holidays to share community with each other, build an altar, share a meal, possibly take a walk, share the land, and then be in my living room and watch the stream of the ceremony that is being streamed from our temple headquarters in Massachusetts.

Speaker B:

So it's a beautiful, beautiful community.

Speaker B:

We could definitely talk so much more about that, but Shauna and I, depending on whose podcast you were on, we'll put that link down in the show notes so that you can go explore what the Living Temple is and see if that is something that would be a good fit for you.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Well, Kayla, thanks for the conversation today, but more than that, thank you for being my partner in.

Speaker C:

In magic.

Speaker C:

I was gonna say crime, but magic, for this.

Speaker C:

It has been an absolute pleasure from beginning to end to work with you.

Speaker C:

So thank you for saying yes and participating.

Speaker B:

Same.

Speaker B:

Same.

Speaker B:

I hope we get to do this again.

Speaker C:

Yeah, we will.

Speaker C:

All right.

Speaker C:

Bye.

Speaker B:

Bye, guys.

Speaker B:

Hi, loves.

Speaker B:

We forgot to mention that if you would like to sign up for the wait list for the next Shed retreat, that will be linked down below.

Speaker B:

Details are not quite worked out yet for next year, but if you want to be the first to know when and where the next Shed retreat will be and be the first to get in on the early bird discount, then the link will be down in the show notes.

Speaker B:

Take care all.

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