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Laura and Xhafer share their embarrassment at having a Battlestar Galactica podcast. Laura is a little bit concerned about Gaeta. Xhafer admires Michael Hogan's facial acting. This episode covers Battlestar Galactica Season 4, Episode 7: Guess What's Coming to Dinner?
Discord: https://discord.gg/MUHKDDk6TN
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Hello, and welcome to Who Are You?
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:This is a reasonably well done sci-fi
watch cast hosted by two former
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:strangers, now friends, who are currently
watching:
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:I'm Jafare.
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:Laura: And I'm Laura.
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:Xhafer: And today we have Battlestar
Galactica, Season 4, Episode 7,
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:"Guess Who's Coming to Dinner."
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:Laura: No.
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:Xhafer: Guess...
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:No.
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:Laura: Guess what's coming to dinner?
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:Xhafer: Guess What's Coming to Dinner?
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:That's rude.
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:That's rude as fuck.
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:Laura: of rude, right?
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:Xhafer: Yeah, I didn't
even think about it.
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:Man, I just corrected that
racism in my brain meats and
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:wrote down the wrong thing.
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:Whoops.
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:Laura: are people too, apparently.
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:Yeah.
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:Xhafer: S-
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:Laura: I assume that what's was really
on purpose and carrying a lot in the
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: minds.
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:Xhafer: Rude, though.
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:Fucking rude.
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:I always think about Chekov
saying this when the Klingons
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:are coming over in Star Trek VI.
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:Laura: Uh-huh.
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:Xhafer: That's like...
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:I know that that's not
the, like, source of this.
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:I believe it's a play,
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:Laura: Sure.
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:Xhafer: but that, for me, that's
always, like, the thing I think of.
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:Laura: Okay, 'cause I think you said
we were talking last time that it's a
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:reference also to, like, with Gorbachev,
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:Xhafer: It might be, yeah.
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:Laura: Over or
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:Xhafer: I mean, S-Star Trek VI is
just about the end of the Cold War,
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Xhafer: so...
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:Laura: I was like, that's,
that's fun that we make the
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:Russian character say something
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:Xhafer: Say it?
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:Yeah, for sure.
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:Laura: Fun, fun.
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:Yeah.
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:I just wanna address something
from the Discord before
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: if you don't mind.
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:One of our listeners commented
something, 'cause are, of course,
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:weeks behind our actual recording,
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:Xhafer: Yes.
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:Laura: About how they were bummed that we
felt like things were going kind of slow.
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:Xhafer: That was, like...
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:I mean, there is, like, two or
three episodes that I feel like
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:are kind of slow in the first half
of this first half of the season.
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:Laura: Sure, yeah.
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:Xhafer: Um, but they are not nearly
the slog Dogtown that we had.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:The final five business with Deanna
that really was irritating me.
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:Like, no,
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: felt like, least since
the last episode re-recorded,
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:which would've been, what, Faith?
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:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
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:Laura: the ones that I have watched
subsequent, because I have watched
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:a little more than this one,
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: feel like anything's slow.
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:I'm, I'm having a good time.
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:It's, it's all happening
pretty fast, actually.
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:Xhafer: Yes.
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:It will happen pretty fast, and then
we'll hit a wall And the wall is
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:a narrative wall that makes sense.
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:Laura: Mm-hmm.
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:Xhafer: and the show rightfully slows
down for a minute there, but just a
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:minute, and then we get another couple
fast ones, and I think it slows down
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:for, like, another two or three right
before the finale, if memory serves.
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:Laura: Okay.
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:Xhafer: Um, but that might be me
conflating things and not remembering,
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:'cause we're at a point now where I
haven't seen shit in a very long time.
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:So,
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:Laura: There was stuff happening
in the last episode that Aaron was
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:like, "I actually don't remember
things get where they're going."
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:Xhafer: Yeah, the next one's weird.
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:I mean, we'll talk about it.
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:We'll talk about it in, like, an
hour and a half, but you'll hear
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:about us talking about it in a week,
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Xhafer: So,
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:Laura: But I, I just want you to
know, listener, having a good time.
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:Xhafer: yeah.
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:Yeah, this has been good.
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:I'm glad that, like, obviously uh, I wish
there wasn't some stuff happening in the
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:real world that made me go, "Oh, God,"
when we're watching a TV show again.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Xhafer: But I am really
enjoying this rewatch.
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:It's a good show.
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:Laura: It is.
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:There's a lot of meat to chew there.
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:When, whenever anybody gives me,
like, of a door open, I'm like, "You
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:should watch 'Battlestar Galactica.'"
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:Just the Kool-Aid Man smashing
through walls recommending TV shows.
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:Xhafer: What is a podcaster
if not that exactly?
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:Laura: right.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:Xhafer: It's fun 'cause I'm
getting crap at work now.
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:So you can't...
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:Obviously, listener we're an audio
format, so you've got no idea.
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:But I've recently relocated
my desk and, and part of that
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:condensed the things on my desk.
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:Laura: Mm-hmm.
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:Xhafer: I am now using my
podcast setup For work meetings.
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:Laura: Oh,
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:Xhafer: I used to have a separate
headset and everything that was
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:attached to the work computer and
doing the things, and now I've got it
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:plugged into a USB switch so I can just
switch between my work computer and my
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:personal computer and doing the thing.
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:Laura: Mm-hmm.
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:Xhafer: between the new background, which
is shelves of books 'cause I'm in my...
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:I built a library and I'm
sitting in my library now.
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:Um,
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:Laura: Mm-hmm.
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:Xhafer: The microphone and the
nicer headset and everything.
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:Almost every time I'm on a call
with a person for the first time
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:from my new office it has been, "Oh,
Jafare, you look like a podcaster."
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:Me nervously laughing.
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:You guys wanna watch
"Battlestar Galactica"?
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:Oh, man.
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:Laura: awkward in academia to do that, but
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: Still, still weird.
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:Xhafer: Oh, you just record yourself
talking about a subject for an hour?
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:I mean, teaching classes
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Yeah.
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:Xhafer: compared to me, and like...
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:And we don't even like video on calls.
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:It's just like, ugh.
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:Laura: Yeah, so I guess we
should talk about this one, huh?
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Yeah, let's get into it.
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:Season 4, episode 7, "Guess
What's Coming to Dinner?"
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:Rude.
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:We open on Gaius taking time away
from his religious zealotry to talk
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:about Rosalyn having these shared
visions with Caprica-Six and Athena.
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:Laura: Oh, yes.
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:He's been talking about this on
the Gaius Wireless apparently.
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:Xhafer: The Gai-Fi?
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:Laura: the Gaifi.
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:They're both good.
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:Xhafer: Okay.
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:Laura: good.
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:I like 'em.
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:Rosalind's listening to this
and wondering how he knows.
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:Xhafer: who could have told him?
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:Laura: too, 'cause I was like, "Wait,
when has he talked about this?"
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:But it does get reminded to
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: how he knows, 'cause I
was like, we haven't seen him
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:go talk to Caprica Six since the
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:Xhafer: Before the
trial, yeah, and it's...
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:That's where he learned this,
was during the trial bit.
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:Laura: Yep.
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:Xhafer: But the show has given
us so much plot since then.
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:Laura: Yeah, I was like, "Hmm."
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:'Cause we've discussed
this before, specifically.
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:It...
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:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
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:Laura: in the visions,
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: w- we were like, "Nah, he can't
be aware of that," he has said nothing.
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:And actually, he's even said things
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: like contrary, and especially
in this episode, um, explicitly
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:addressed, "You are in my dreams."
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:And he's like, "Where?"
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:He's, he's in the dreams, but
he's not an active participant
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:unlike Six and Athena who are.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:They remember this shit,
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:Xhafer: Which is weird that
Rosalyn gets it and Baltar doesn't.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:That made me wonder
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: too, you know, my in the last
episode, in Faith, I don't think
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:we talked about this part, but a
big part of the end there is that
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:Rosalind is dreaming with Emily,
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:Xhafer: Yes.
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:Laura: as Emily's passing away.
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:And I had kind of maintained that Rosalind
is dreaming with Athena and Caprica Six
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:because she's the super-secret 13th Cylon.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: And
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:Xhafer: Emily's super secret 14th Cylon?
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:Laura: definitely, like,
super duper human, so.
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:But she was, she was a human
who was in the middle of
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:transitioning to the other side.
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:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
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:Laura: So, maybe there's something about
the act of dying that Cylons could dream
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:Xhafer: Cylons know a bit about that.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Xhafer: that's core to their, I
don't wanna say cultural identity.
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:Cultural's not the right word.
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:Their, their racial identity?
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:Laura: Sure,
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:and we come, we
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:Xhafer: yeah.
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:Laura: it.
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:Yeah, so I was like, "Huh, that's
so interesting when you think
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:about that part of that episode."
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: Hmm.
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:Xhafer: Eh.
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:Laura: Gaius is blabbing
about it on the radio.
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:And Roslin has been listening, but
uh, Lee is also there, and says, "Hey,
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:the, half of the fleet's already heard
this, and you owe them a response."
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:Which
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:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
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:Laura: I'm just over here like, "But why?"
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:Xhafer: Well, I mean, and
that's her answer too, is,
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:"Why do I owe them a response?
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:Fuck Gaius."
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:Laura: Uh-huh.
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:Xhafer: And then Lee brings up the valid
point that it's all like, yeah, you've
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:been really just actively refusing
to be transparent in any way, so this
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:plus all of that is the actual problem.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Xhafer: Which, fair.
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:Laura: like, I, I still think
Gaius talking about crazy visions
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:and dreams, like, don't know.
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:If I was, like, a
person, I would not care.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: I do not give a shit
if Trump is having visions.
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:Well, I mean, I do, in that those visions
will probably be a problem for me later.
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:But if he's, like,
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: someone, don't care.
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:Xhafer: Rosalyn just needs to get a
Truth Social account so that way she can
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:communicate directly with the people.
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:That would really solve
a lot of these problems.
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:Laura: in a very trustworthy manner.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: sane, right?
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:Yeah, she, she also is like, "What, what
would you do if you were in my place?"
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:basically.
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:Or,
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:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
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:Laura: what would these things mean
to you, even if you were in my place?"
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:And then does actually, like
Lee does demand to know if
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:it's true, and she says yes.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: So, I mean, we get
that much out of Rosalyn.
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:But I, again, I don't really know
why anyone cares, and also, don't
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:know if Lee makes a big deal out of
it at all the rest of this episode.
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:I guess we'll find out as
we go through my notes.
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:But, like, why do you even care, Lee?
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:I'm confused.
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:Xhafer: after this, we cut over to the
Basestar and the Demetrius that are
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:set to jump to the flotilla together.
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:Starbuck is like, "We have to do it
this way so they don't get nuked."
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:And I'm all like, "Do you?
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:Couldn't you just send the Demetrius,
like, five minutes earlier and just
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:be like, 'Oh, hey, a Basestar's
gonna jump in in five minutes.
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:It's cool.
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:They're with us,'
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:Laura: Mm-hmm.
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:Xhafer: explain everything ahead of time?"
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:Laura: Again, like, we jump in
Demetrius alone, we have Gaeta
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:get Gaeta off the Demetrius,
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:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
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:Laura: back, we bring in the Basestar.
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:Like,
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: don't understand
why we can't do this.
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:Xhafer: For drama because they jump
and the Demetrius doesn't make it
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:to the fleet, but the Basestar does.
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:Laura: Oh, yeah.
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:Xhafer: the...
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:Laura: Basestar, like,
couldn't jump by itself, right?
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:That was the,
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:Xhafer: Well, yeah, that they're
using the Raptor to jump.
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:Laura: right?
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:The, they've gotta be, like, tethered
together, but then somehow the
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:tether breaks, but the Basestar
makes it, not the Demetrius.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: Okay.
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:Yeah,
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:Xhafer: But Galactica can just,
like, do the math and send it to
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:the other ships in every other
fucking episode and they're fine,
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:Laura: it's totally...
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:Xhafer: right?
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:Totally fine.
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:Don't come at me in the Discord
with, "It's a Cylon computer."
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:I don't wanna hear it and I'm
not gonna remember saying that.
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:I don't wanna hear it, so
really just don't say it.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Oh.
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:Xhafer: It's so dumb.
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:You have to admit, this is so dumb.
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:Laura: It, it's dumb, and
speaking of dumb, like, as we
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:are jumping, Six, like, looks...
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:I think the Six's na- actually
has a name, I found out later.
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:Natalie?
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:Does that ring any bells?
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:Xhafer: Yes.
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:Laura: I don't know why...
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:I don't know if we've ever said her name
out loud, but the closed captions in the
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:next episode identified her as Natalie.
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:Xhafer: Yes.
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:And when I Googled...
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:I know...
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:I, I knew her name was Natalie from,
like, referencing wikis and looking
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:at stuff and reading, but I don't
remember them saying her name ever.
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:Laura: certainly don't.
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:I was surprised when the closed
caption said that, and Aaron was
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:like, "Yeah, that one's Natalie."
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:And I was like, "Okay."
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:Xhafer: I just call her Leader
Six in my notes the entire time.
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:Laura: So I, I've got Six in my
notes, but it's Natalie that says
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:to Athena, how beautiful Hera
must be, like, as we're jumping.
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:And I'm like,
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: "That's a thing...
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:That's a dumb thing to do.
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:dumb and creepy."
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:Xhafer: It's weird.
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:Laura: weird, it's
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: something...
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:Leoben did something really weird during,
like, we're about to jump the other day,
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:too, and I was like, "How about no?"
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:Xhafer: so the Basestar makes it
in and the fleet jumps as soon as
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:they show up, and you have Athena
trying to hail the fleet, but
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:their comms are down because drama.
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:But also, once again, why Athena?
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Xhafer: Why is Athena
hailing from the Basestar?
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Xhafer: an ounce of sense
applied to this, please.
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:Just have Helo on the line.
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:Like, really,
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:Laura: not on the Base
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:Xhafer: anyone.
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:Laura: was on Demetrius, right?
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:Xhafer: Oh, Starbuck.
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:Laura: gotta
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: Mm-hmm.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Just anyone, literally anyone but Athena.
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:Laura: Anders wouldn't be bad, 'cause they
don't know, you know, the, the whole thing
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Yeah, Anders would be fine.
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:Literally- Anyone is a
better choice than Athena.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Xhafer: But here we are.
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:Laura: sh- back on Galactica should be
doing the math of, like, what are the
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:odds uh, one of the other Sharons found
out Athena's call sign, and, you know,
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: we're
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:Xhafer: Hi.
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:Laura: Nobody thinks about that.
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:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
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:We get what is one of my favorite
shots in this entire show here.
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:It is, like, a 15-second shot.
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:But it's the Vipers rushing towards
the Basestar after launching from
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:Galactica, flying through the fleet
as the fleet jumps away around
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:them, and it's such a cool...
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:It's not like a POV shot directly,
but you're, like, you're following
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:the Vipers with the camera as they're
zooming through, and you see the
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:fleet jumping away around them.
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:So good.
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:So good.
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:Laura: those things you can do narratively
to, like, establish the competence
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:of your participants in the fleet
having to, like, dialogue about it.
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:just see,
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: we're heading toward the attack
and people are jumping away, so you know,
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:like, oh, this is an experienced group.
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:Where if you don't have that shot, and you
just have Vipers going through the fleet,
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:you're sitting there as an audience member
going, "Why aren't they jumping away?
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:Why aren't they doing anything?"
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:Like, they thought through this
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:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
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:Laura: totally just
computer-generated scene, you know.
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:Xhafer: So good.
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:Ty calls a hold on the open fire at
the last possible monent- moment.
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:Laura: something ain't
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:Xhafer: Adama looks pissed, but
the- Demetrius jumps in and confirms
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:that they shouldn't blow up the
Basestar to theme real quick.
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:Laura: I, I, I don't know.
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:I felt like this whole, like, Adama guns
a-blazing felt a little wrong because
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:this Basestar is so visibly beat up.
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:It is, like,
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:Xhafer: Adama ha- the, the Adama
storyline right now is this is
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:building towards next episode, which
I won't talk about too much, listener.
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:Um, this episode, the next
episode, and the episode after
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:it all really go hand-in-hand.
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:They're kinda like a little
three-parter in pretty meaningful ways.
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:This is kind of like the prologue of
the next two episodes, and the next
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:two episodes are like, "Here's the same
six hours told from this perspective.
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:Here is the same six hours
told from this perspective."
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:And this sets up the ability to do that.
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:And in this next episode coming up
Adama's ability to lead is called
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:into question in a meaningful way.
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:Laura: Mm-hmm.
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:Xhafer: I'll leave it at that.
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:This is set up for that.
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:This is, Ty can handle it,
Adama has to do something else.
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:This is to make you believe that Adama is
not infallible again, and that maybe Ty is
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:ready for these things, 'cause he is right
in this situation and Adama is wrong.
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:And Adama needs to see that
happen to be able to do the
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:things he does next episode.
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:Laura: Okay.
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:Okay.
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:I still think...
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:Xhafer: It's dumb, but I,
I, I I'm with you here.
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:But I understand narratively
why this has to happen.
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:Laura: 'Cause we know that
Ty is, he's sorta lucky.
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:He's not just lucky, I believe, because
it seems like there's something about
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:these fuck around four Cylons at least,
where, they kind of know each other.
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:There's, there's some
sort of thing happening.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: So he kind of knows
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: go in and guns a-blazing on a ship
that's at death's door that just jumps
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:in, and it's not launching anything.
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:I see the Adama I remember being
a little more cautious than that.
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:Maybe the fleet jumps out, yeah, but
he's not, like, launching the nukes.
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:He's preparing the nukes, but he's
not launching the nukes, you know?
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:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
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:Laura: It was weird.
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:It felt a little out of character for me.
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:But we've gotta have Ty be the
broken clock that is right this time.
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:Xhafer: Yes.
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:Laura: So, okay.
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:Demetrius is back.
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:Xhafer: Yep, we go to theme.
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:Survivor count 39,673.
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:We are down two, which is
of course Jean and Emily.
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:Laura: Oh, yes, and Emily.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:Xhafer: Ty goes to the Basestar
with, like, every Marine
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:on the fucking Galactica.
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:When Starbuck tells them the,
uh, Cylons are with her, he
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:asks which one shot Gaeta.
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:Laura: Oh, boy.
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:Xhafer: Which Cylon shot Gaeta?
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:Oh mm, mm, mm, mm, mm ooh, yeah
mm, mm, yeah, mm, about, mm, yeah.
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:So, mm, mm, yeah.
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:Yeah, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, yeah.
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:So a-about that.
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:Laura: poor Gaeta.
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:There's, like, no justice for Gaeta.
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:Like, is that, is that coming?
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:Are we gonna address this later?
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:Because, like, I, I feel like
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:Xhafer: Don't...
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:Laura: at least been, like, taken to
the brig or interviewed or something.
465
:We should've seen that, and no.
466
:Xhafer: you know that bit I just
did with the mm, mm, oh, mm, mm?
467
:Do that again.
468
:Aaron, you don't have to copy-paste
it, but just for you, Laura, and
469
:for anyone else who knows what's
coming, just like go back like 30
470
:seconds and listen to it again.
471
:Laura: I meant to talk about
this on the last episode, but
472
:we kinda had so much other
473
:Xhafer: Yeah.
474
:Laura: we were chewing with
This episode's as good as any.
475
:I'm a little worried
about this Gaeta plot.
476
:I'm a, I'm a little worried, and
477
:Xhafer: Yeah.
478
:Laura: you know how you
said, like, I think it, it...
479
:You said something to the effect ago that,
480
:Xhafer: Yeah.
481
:Laura: the worst thing in
this show hasn't happened yet.
482
:Like, the
483
:Xhafer: Correct.
484
:Laura: the worst thing or
whatever, and it's not Baltar.
485
:Xhafer: Eh.
486
:Yeah.
487
:I mean, I would s- The person who
does the worst thing, I would argue
488
:I think that might have been taken
out of context because the person who
489
:does the worst thing is in the pilot.
490
:Laura: Okay.
491
:Well, yeah.
492
:True,
493
:Xhafer: I would, I would say the,
the most depressing things to happen
494
:in this show have not happened yet.
495
:We- we've hit number three.
496
:We have one and two barreling
towards us right now.
497
:Laura: I'm just a little worried that
our black-and-white thinker who's,
498
:after the, the end of this episode,
now missing a big part of his leg
499
:Xhafer: Yes.
500
:Laura: have some bad thoughts
that are difficult to deal with.
501
:Xhafer: You are picking up on things that
are being put down for you to pick up on.
502
:I'll say that.
503
:Laura: I was like, I don't like it
when people who can't deal with shades
504
:of gray and subtlety in things have
really bad things happen to them that
505
:they then have to try to process, and
maybe they won't do so hot at that."
506
:so yeah, that's where we're at right now,
is Gaeta's being rushed to the surgery.
507
:and we've got Natalie speaking
with Roslin and Adama.
508
:And they, they're d- gonna do a
quick exposition all together now.
509
:Athena's like, "Hey, they, they boxed
the Three, and that means that she's
510
:Xhafer: Yeah.
511
:Laura: put away on the external
hard drive that we're not
512
:we think she can tell us who the final
five Cylons are, those final five
513
:Cylons are supposed to know the way to
Earth, according to hybrid ramblings."
514
:the, look on Ty's face As
515
:Xhafer: Oh, it's so good.
516
:Laura: he knows that, that
these fuck around four at
517
:least know absolutely nothing.
518
:We're all the dumbest things alive here
and we're barely keeping it together.
519
:like, also trying to glance sideways
at Tory, who's, like, not doing it.
520
:She's, like, not doing this with him.
521
:And they've got this plan
that they're gonna go to the
522
:Resurrection Hub, get Deanna out.
523
:And I'm not totally understanding of
what Natalie is trying to do here.
524
:It sounds like they
525
:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
526
:Laura: get Deanna out
and go, on their own way.
527
:But Athena's over here saying they
can get us to Earth, but Natalie
528
:just wants to take Deanna and go.
529
:So I'm
530
:Xhafer: Yeah.
531
:Yeah.
532
:Well, I mean, there's a little
bit of reunion there, you know.
533
:A little bit of Deanna was right.
534
:Um, a little bit of bring
Lucy Lawless back, please.
535
:but also it's just like, I don't wanna
deal with the humans, so maybe just, uh,
536
:Lucy Lawless and these six was enough.
537
:Laura: Yeah.
538
:And Natalie's talking about how
they want do this for the rebellion.
539
:I guess, what are you gonna do, Natalie?
540
:You're gonna go back and fight
Cavils with no equipment?
541
:What's your, what's your plan?
542
:I'm confused.
543
:Xhafer: Yeah.
544
:Laura: she's asking for Adama's
word that they'll, they will get
545
:to leave the fleet with the final
five once they know who they are.
546
:Xhafer: yeah.
547
:Adama and Ty talk.
548
:He asks about the weapon hold.
549
:Ty's like, "I just had a feeling."
550
:As Racetrack and Skulls confirm
the Resurrection Hub coordinates,
551
:and then we see Cottle take
Gaeta's leg Anders watching on.
552
:Laura: One, again, why Anders not in brig?
553
:Why does Anders get
554
:Xhafer: Right.
555
:I mean, Anders did stop a mutiny.
556
:Like,
557
:Laura: Okay,
558
:Xhafer: in the brig right now.
559
:Laura: that.
560
:Xhafer: They might, they might not
know yet either that it was Anders.
561
:They might not have told Ty immediately.
562
:They might've been like,
"We'll deal with that later.
563
:We'll deal with that after theme.
564
:Laura: Mm-hmm.
565
:Xhafer: Don't worry about it, Ty."
566
:Laura: Yeah, maybe that's it, and
also there's the whole mutiny thing.
567
:Like, the mutiny
568
:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
569
:Laura: He uh, stopped the illegal
thing, and Gaeta happened to
570
:get shot in the middle of it.
571
:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
572
:Laura: Okay.
573
:That's...
574
:Yeah.
575
:I can get
576
:Xhafer: Yeah.
577
:Laura: guess.
578
:But I'm just sitting here like, "Fuck."
579
:shouldn't be allowed
to be watching, though.
580
:Come on.
581
:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
582
:Uh, We see the fleet and the base star
jump together, which is a cool image.
583
:Laura: Mm-hmm.
584
:Mm-hmm.
585
:Xhafer: Ty, Adama, Rosalyn, and Hilo
talk about the plan here after this.
586
:Ty is like, "Maybe we don't
risk b- unboxing the Deanna.
587
:Like, we don't care about who
these final five are, right?
588
:Like, we don't need to know
who they are, the final five.
589
:That's not a big deal.
590
:We shouldn't fight about this."
591
:Laura: Well, and we know they're in the
fleet, like we've been told, at least,
592
:Xhafer: Yeah.
593
:Laura: right?
594
:I think they said they are
595
:Xhafer: Yeah.
596
:Laura: fleet.
597
:Xhafer: They've said that.
598
:Yeah.
599
:Laura: And Ty, who has been totally
gung-ho about get all these robots
600
:out of here, is all of a sudden
like, "Nah, they're probably fine.
601
:Like, they've been here this whole
602
:Xhafer: Yeah.
603
:Laura: nothing...
604
:They haven't done anything bad."
605
:Xhafer: We haven't 33'd in a while.
606
:It's been seasons.
607
:We're fine.
608
:Laura: Yeah, it's okay.
609
:Xhafer: Adama is like,
"Maybe they're rebels."
610
:Laura: Everyone should
be looking at him weird.
611
:Xhafer: 100%.
612
:Yeah.
613
:Adama's just like, "Maybe they're rebels."
614
:And Ty is all like, "Oh, that's prob-"
Like, before he can go to say it, though,
615
:Rosalyn's all like, "No, we're doing this.
616
:Maybe they all get the
fucking airlock, Bill."
617
:Laura: I mean, also, they're
being told that the final five
618
:know the way to Earth, so, like,
619
:Xhafer: Yeah.
620
:Laura: we should probably
find that out for sure, right?
621
:Xhafer: Yeah.
622
:Laura: woof.
623
:But I can't remember.
624
:Was Tory in the room for this
one, too, or is it just Roslin,
625
:Xhafer: I don't think so.
626
:I think...
627
:And Hilo.
628
:Laura: Hmm, and Helo.
629
:Okay.
630
:but they're definitely not gonna just
let them go once Deanna the final five.
631
:That's what Natalie was writing
for, was like, one, we get Deanna.
632
:she tells us who the final five are.
633
:Three, we take the final five, and we go.
634
:But how do we get to Earth,
then, without these final five?
635
:And they're like, "Yeah, no, we, we've
gotta just, like, hang on to them."
636
:S- they can't take them right away.
637
:Xhafer: Yeah.
638
:Laura: they will stay here until
we ha- know how to get to Earth.
639
:Xhafer: We're gonna, we're
gonna get that, that, that route
640
:to Earth from them for sure.
641
:Ty is just like, "I'm fucked."
642
:You can see it in his eyes.
643
:It's like this episode and next episode
are like they figured out how good Michael
644
:Hogan is at the I'm fucked face, and just
took every opportunity to let him do it.
645
:I feel like he went up to, like, Ron
Moore when they were writing this episode
646
:and, like, filming episodes two or three.
647
:He's like, "Look, I've been
working on my I'm fucked face
648
:after I found out I'm a Cylon.
649
:Let me show you a couple real quick."
650
:And they just, like, went out of
their way to showcase these moments.
651
:Yeah.
652
:He's just at home in the mirror
working on his I'm fucked face.
653
:The Quorum gets the news of the
joint Cylon military operation,
654
:and they're just like, "The fuck?"
655
:Laura: Yeah, yeah.
656
:This is where I'm, like, not clear
on politics of things of, like,
657
:does the Quorum even get a say?
658
:Should they even get a say?
659
:but they believe they should
get a say, and they are
660
:Xhafer: Yeah.
661
:Laura: that they didn't
even know happening
662
:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
663
:Laura: what's even
664
:is, like, looks at Lee like,
"Why weren't we informed?
665
:WTF?"
666
:And Lee's like, "I mean,
667
:Xhafer: Yeah.
668
:Laura: know either."
669
:And you can see, like, on his face, like,
"Oh, being on the outside kinda sucks."
670
:Xhafer: Yeah.
671
:Laura: I g- I gave up a lot of
knowledge access when I decided
672
:that I wanted to be politics now."
673
:Hmm.
674
:Xhafer: The fuck around four talk about
their future airlock-based accommodations.
675
:But Anders isn't participating
in the conversation.
676
:He's real shook up from
watching Gaeta's surgery.
677
:Laura: Well, and Tyrell's
not, like, upset about it.
678
:He's like, "Yeah, I wanna
know who number five is."
679
:Like, "Sure, what the f-
why, why the fuck not?"
680
:Xhafer: Yeah.
681
:Laura: But
682
:Xhafer: At this point...
683
:Laura: and Tory are like,
"Eh, we don't wanna die."
684
:And Anders is thinking about
the, all that he's done and seen.
685
:Xhafer: Yeah.
686
:Laura: And Tyrell's just like, "Who cares?
687
:Burn it all down.
688
:Let's find out who the last one is."
689
:It's interesting that we have come
to such, like, diverse opinions.
690
:These, these four, the fuck
around four, are not homogenous
691
:in what they're trying to do.
692
:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
693
:Laura: and the,
694
:really bothering Anders is that Gaeta
whenever his phantom leg is bothering him.
695
:Xhafer: Yeah.
696
:Man, this drives me crazy.
697
:we'll talk about it in a minute.
698
:There's a lot of Gaeta just
singing in this episode.
699
:Laura: I think it's that we're
getting toward the end of the show,
700
:and we're like, "We haven't had
this man who has a good voice sing
701
:anything yet, and we should do that."
702
:Xhafer: Yeah.
703
:Laura: have a very nice
704
:Xhafer: Give him one.
705
:Yeah.
706
:Rosalyn corners Tory about
hanging out in the bang bus.
707
:Laura: my, yes.
708
:Xhafer: Rude as fuck.
709
:She at one point in this conversation
says, "I don't care if you have to
710
:spend all night on your knees praying
or just all night on your knees."
711
:Mom, that hurts.
712
:Laura: Yeah.
713
:Mom is pretty, pretty, um, hurtful here.
714
:Mom is very
715
:Xhafer: Yeah.
716
:Laura: and also
717
:Xhafer: Yeah.
718
:It's like, "You always have such a glow
about you when we stay aboard Galactica."
719
:Huh?
720
:Laura: Mm-hmm.
721
:Uh, I can't figure out if Tori is
sincerely hurt here, 'cause she does
722
:do this thing where she's, like,
trying to tell her of the truth, or,
723
:like, trying to, like, apologize.
724
:But I don't, I, I don't know.
725
:The, the...
726
:At least the actress is giving me the
vibes that, like, " Okay, I think this
727
:is the manipulation that will work
with you, so this is what I'm gonna
728
:Xhafer: Yeah.
729
:Laura: work.
730
:And I can't tell is actually upset about
that or doing her own thing to survive.
731
:But taken her down a notch and says,
"Well, if you're spending so much time
732
:with Baltar, then you need to find out
where he got the shared vision lie that
733
:he's been spouting all over the airwaves."
734
:So we know she hasn't talked about the
visions with Tori at all so it can't
735
:be that she suspects that that lie
came from Tori if she's asking Tori to
736
:find out where the lie came from, so.
737
:Xhafer: Yeah.
738
:Laura: covered that because,
you know, it's feasible she
739
:might have mentioned it, but...
740
:Xhafer: Yeah.
741
:The Leader Six, Elioben, and Sharon
discuss an alternate plan because they're
742
:like, "The human b- beings are gonna
betray us, so let's not be betrayed
743
:because we'll betray them first."
744
:Laura: I...
745
:Xhafer: Some real Cylon bullshit here.
746
:Laura: si- It's, it's all very, like,
um, in behavioral economics that
747
:I took this semester, there's the,
748
:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
749
:Laura: idea of the rational man,
and I'm just like, pretty sure
750
:the rational man is just selfish
man, like, a selfish dude mostly.
751
:wanna
752
:Xhafer: Yeah.
753
:Laura: breakdown is on, like, how
actually do, do women usually choose
754
:in these rational self-interest games?
755
:tell me more about that.
756
:But anyway,
757
:Xhafer: Oh, Laura, we
don't do science on women.
758
:Laura: Yeah, why
759
:Xhafer: You know this.
760
:Laura: That's not necessary.
761
:Xhafer: Yeah, we need, we
need stable control groups.
762
:You can't have that
763
:Laura: not
764
:Xhafer: with women.
765
:No, no, no, we-- they're bad for science.
766
:We all...
767
:I really-- listener, if this is your
first episode and you don't know
768
:how facetious I'm being right now,
769
:Laura: Also, if this is your
first episode, like, what?
770
:Xhafer: fuck, hi, but what?
771
:Laura: You're just really like,
"Guess what's coming to dinner?"
772
:And so you're skipping through
all the Battlestar Galactica
773
:podcasts listening to that one.
774
:Xhafer: Just that one episode,
that sounds like either the best
775
:way to do Battlestar podcasts or a
nightmare, and I don't know which.
776
:Laura: I just...
777
:like, they are doing the, the, like,
behavioral economics, like backwards
778
:induction of, like, how do I get to
actually what's gonna be the worst answer?
779
:Like, it- the, the
780
:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
781
:Laura: in most of the games that we
played in behavioral economics was,
782
:like, the optimal outcome because people
783
:Xhafer: Yes.
784
:Laura: just, like, get beyond
our behavioral factors to do the
785
:optimal thing, and I'm just like,
786
:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
787
:Laura: "Okay."
788
:I actually kinda thought in the
scene that we were about to see the
789
:Leoben stand up to Six, 'cause he's,
like, not impressed with this idea.
790
:Leoben has been having the faith
we need to do what the hybrid says,
791
:we need Kara Thrace, we need all
this, and then he just sorta rolls
792
:over at the end of the conversation.
793
:He's like, "Okay," just, like,
nodding, like, "Yeah, I am just
794
:Leoben and I am just a fuck-up,
so let's just do what Six says."
795
:Xhafer: Uh, We go to Lee who
goes to visit Rosalyn in med bay.
796
:He hears Gaeta singing.
797
:This is the aforementioned practice
uh, when he feels the phantom pain.
798
:Uh, he tells her that Quorum
is considering a vote of
799
:no confidence against her.
800
:She responds with, "Fuck those
kids," and not, "Maybe I could
801
:communicate more clearly."
802
:Laura: Yeah, she says "I'm not gonna
jeopardize the safety of everyone
803
:because 12 people are unhappy."
804
:Xhafer: Yeah.
805
:Laura: never mind the fact that, like,
this is representative democracy, right?
806
:And supposedly
807
:Xhafer: Yeah.
808
:Laura: 12 people are unhappy, that means
all their constituents are mostly unhappy,
809
:Xhafer: Pfft.
810
:Ah, nah, that's not how this works.
811
:Fucked up kids.
812
:Tory confronts Baltar about talking
about the president's visions.
813
:He tells her that he knows through
Caprica Six from the trial.
814
:He explains that he's not vengeful against
her, he's just tired of her lying and
815
:using blind patriotism to keep everyone
in line while refusing to acknowledge
816
:secret missions, like Blitz kidnapping
foreign heads or seizing shipping lanes.
817
:Laura: Uh-huh.
818
:Yeah.
819
:Xhafer: Eh.
820
:Laura: what do you think about
all this here, the way Tory
821
:conducts this investigation?
822
:Xhafer: pillow talk but, oh
God, I hate that I'm about to
823
:say this, I agree with Baltar.
824
:Laura: I don't believe that he
doesn't have any bloodlust for her.
825
:Xhafer: Um, I mean, I
don't think he will ever...
826
:I mean, he is not acting
entirely selfless here.
827
:But you can do something selfish
and it can also be the right thing.
828
:Laura: Yeah.
829
:Xhafer: It's not common
circumstance, but it is possible.
830
:Laura: align at
831
:Xhafer: A- yeah.
832
:Laura: I'm like I, I don't believe for a
second that you don't have it out for her.
833
:Like, I saw how hurt you looked
when you thought that Mom
834
:didn't think about you at all.
835
:Yeah.
836
:Xhafer: Yeah.
837
:This reminds me of conversations I
would have with one of my friends in
838
:college where we would say it's either
the person doing the worst thing for
839
:the best reasons or the person doing
the best thing for the worst reasons.
840
:And this is definitely the latter.
841
:Laura: Yeah.
842
:So,
843
:I,
844
:Xhafer: yeah.
845
:Laura: don't know.
846
:Um, but I, I do think it is a bit rich
that he, he does say that Rosalind's
847
:keeping too many secrets, even from her.
848
:He's, like, wedging in between the two of
849
:Xhafer: Yeah.
850
:Laura: When Gaius is keeping the
biggest secret of all, that he
851
:is the reason everyone is here.
852
:Xhafer: Yeah.
853
:Laura: eh.
854
:Xhafer: We cut back to Gaeta
who keeps singing the same song.
855
:Man I hope they have some
noise-canceling headphones.
856
:He s- he sings lovely but this is
like the 40th time he sings this song.
857
:Laura: Yeah.
858
:Xhafer: Yeah.
859
:Laura: Rosalyn
860
:Xhafer: do you have any, do you
have any stories about this?
861
:Did you-- Like, I have like stories
about living in the dorms with
862
:people who would listen to the
same song on repeat all the time.
863
:Laura: Hmm.
864
:Xhafer: have you had to
live with anyone like this?
865
:I, I figure it would be college
unless you're about to throw Aaron
866
:under the bus in which case...
867
:Laura: I, if
868
:Xhafer: Oh, okay, cool.
869
:Laura: if anything, I don't remember
those stories or I don't have any
870
:of those stories 'cause it was me.
871
:Xhafer: Oh, okay.
872
:Laura: the one playing the
873
:Xhafer: Aaron,
874
:Laura: the
875
:Xhafer: feel free to throw Laura under
the bus and edit yourself in here.
876
:What a great story, Aaron.
877
:Um,
878
:Laura: Yeah.
879
:Xhafer: My freshman year of college I
lived in dorms that were four person
880
:Laura: Mm-hmm.
881
:Xhafer: and you had a shared
bedroom and a shared living space.
882
:So four beds in one room,
desks and anything else that
883
:you had in the front room.
884
:And uh, one of my four roommates
had uh, lady friend over.
885
:And so they go to the shared bedroom and
close the door and he puts on Juvenile's
886
:Slow Motion and puts it on repeat and
it ends up playing like they fall asleep
887
:Laura: Oh,
888
:Xhafer: this.
889
:And it was so loud.
890
:And we were like, I remember I
was playing Metal Gear Solid 3.
891
:Uh, we But like it got to a point
where like my, my best friend from
892
:high school and growing up he and
I were living together at the time
893
:and like we have the song memorized.
894
:We will we learned how to play it
on any instrument we had in the room
895
:playing along with it and stuff.
896
:Like it just, and it's
now just a joke for us.
897
:We will prank each other by playing
the song sometimes randomly still
898
:Laura: Yeah.
899
:Xhafer: 20 years later.
900
:Laura: Gaeta was having that much fun.
901
:He's not having fun.
902
:Xhafer: He's not having that much fun now.
903
:Laura: Yeah.
904
:So, Rosalyn is, is gonna talk
to the children that are upset.
905
:Xhafer: She goes to them.
906
:She brings Natalie with them.
907
:And the leader Six explains that
mortality has changed the Cylons
908
:and is making them more human.
909
:Laura: Mm.
910
:Okay.
911
:Xhafer: It's not like maybe we
fucked up with the genocide.
912
:Yeah.
913
:Not gonna say sorry, but death is scary.
914
:Whoops.
915
:Laura: So, key to remember here,
though, is that maybe, yes, maybe
916
:death is changing the Cylons.
917
:It is changing the sixes, the
Leobens, and most of the Sharons.
918
:I don't think it's doing anything for
the Cavils, the Simons, and the Doral's.
919
:Xhafer: Yeah.
920
:Laura: they kept their
resurrection ships, right?
921
:Or they kept their bodies.
922
:Xhafer: Presumably.
923
:Laura: but I, I think that's the point
of them attacking the resurrection
924
:hub that, that Natalie's getting at,
is that, like, we're going to make
925
:them experience it too, and force
them to evolve and change in this way.
926
:Xhafer: Kara has a
flashback to the hybrid.
927
:Baltar goes to see Gaeta, decides against.
928
:Laura: Yeah, that's...
929
:Oh, yeah.
930
:They got a whole thing,
931
:Xhafer: Yeah, they got a whole thing.
932
:Laura: that, you know, he could extend
his hand to Tyrol, who clearly didn't
933
:like him, but he's, he can't see Gaeta.
934
:I mean, Gaeta did try to
stab him, so there's that.
935
:Xhafer: Yeah, I think the
issue here isn't Baltar.
936
:I think it's how well or how poorly
he believes he will be received.
937
:Laura: Yeah.
938
:I don't think- That this is a good time
reach out to Gaeta with your religion?
939
:Xhafer: Yeah.
940
:Laura: Especially since he did
try to stab you in the neck.
941
:Xhafer: For sure.
942
:Roslin has another opera house
vision with Athena and Caprica Six.
943
:Athena wakes up to Hera next
to her, who says, "Bye-bye."
944
:Laura: doing the creepy...
945
:I just wanna say,
946
:Xhafer: Creepy kid.
947
:Laura: don't know, I don't remember
exactly when I called it, but I called it.
948
:Hera's a
949
:Xhafer: You did.
950
:Yep.
951
:You got one in this one,
you got one in the next one.
952
:You texted me so happy.
953
:Laura: So creepy.
954
:Xhafer: so creepy.
955
:Kara visits Roslin, and it's
like the hybrid said, "What now?"
956
:Laura: Yeah.
957
:is basically like, "Yeah, I, I heard
about your visions and uh, here's more
958
:about that that I heard from the hybrid."
959
:Xhafer: Yeah.
960
:Skuzy?
961
:Laura: has got to
962
:She's like, "The, the what now?
963
:It,
964
:Xhafer: Yeah.
965
:Laura: what?
966
:We need to go see it."
967
:Like...
968
:Xhafer: Yeah.
969
:Can you get Helo for me?
970
:Laura: Mm-hmm.
971
:Xhafer: Leader Six gets
back to the base star,
972
:Laura: Yeah,
973
:Xhafer: Yeah.
974
:She looks at the skull on her cap and
is just like, "Are we the baddies?"
975
:Laura: huh.
976
:She's like, "Oh, they...
977
:12 people, like, listened to me, and it
was kinda, kinda respectful and shit.
978
:We might be doing it wrong.
979
:This might be We need to
call off the betrayal."
980
:And Leoben's like, "Well, it's, I
mean, we already told the centurions."
981
:Xhafer: Like, it's kind
of mid-betrayal, guys.
982
:Laura: and the centurions are like,
"We took out those free will chips."
983
:Or no, wait, "We,
984
:Xhafer: Yeah.
985
:Laura: took out the free
will inhibitor, so, like,
986
:Xhafer: Yeah.
987
:Laura: don't like that we
wanna stop the betrayal there's
988
:nothing we can do about it."
989
:Xhafer: We already spent the
political capital to get them
990
:to buy into the betrayal.
991
:Damn it.
992
:Laura: And why don't
you go vamp for a bit?
993
:maybe you can stall for time,
we'll just go try to convince
994
:centurions that this is all fine.
995
:Xhafer: Right.
996
:Laura: But tell them
anything except the truth.
997
:Don't tell them the truth.
998
:That would be
999
:Xhafer: Yeah.
:
00:44:25,462 --> 00:44:25,822
Oh, yeah.
:
00:44:26,152 --> 00:44:27,682
Yeah, can't tell them the truth.
:
00:44:29,065 --> 00:44:32,715
Uh, We see Hera's creepy
kid drawings of Six,
:
00:44:33,179 --> 00:44:34,219
Laura: Yeah.
:
00:44:34,271 --> 00:44:35,451
Xhafer: then she's just missing.
:
00:44:35,969 --> 00:44:36,579
Laura: Oh, no.
:
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,639
Right before that, there's
something else that happens.
:
00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:40,439
Can I- Interject?
:
00:44:40,561 --> 00:44:41,031
Xhafer: Oh, yeah.
:
00:44:41,499 --> 00:44:41,729
Laura: Yeah.
:
00:44:42,181 --> 00:44:43,591
Xhafer: Baltar and Rosalind have a moment.
:
00:44:43,621 --> 00:44:43,841
Yeah.
:
00:44:43,849 --> 00:44:47,399
Laura: Helo's escorting Baltar
to the Raptor with Roslin.
:
00:44:47,925 --> 00:44:52,655
we're not gonna go with, go
see a hybrid without Baltar.
:
00:44:52,825 --> 00:44:54,535
That's gotta be interesting.
:
00:44:55,105 --> 00:44:55,675
And that's when
:
00:44:55,716 --> 00:44:56,126
Xhafer: No.
:
00:44:56,215 --> 00:44:59,756
Laura: she's telling us
that, " You're in my dreams
:
00:45:02,026 --> 00:45:04,676
And is surprised.
:
00:45:05,116 --> 00:45:06,976
So he definitely wasn't there.
:
00:45:07,572 --> 00:45:11,942
And we know that because he does say that,
earlier he said that, "I found it out
:
00:45:11,942 --> 00:45:14,532
from the Caprica Six before the trial."
:
00:45:15,133 --> 00:45:15,463
Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
:
00:45:15,722 --> 00:45:19,242
Laura: it, but he never experienced it.
:
00:45:20,050 --> 00:45:23,490
oh, and, and Roslin is holding
onto Seawriter Falcon, isn't she?
:
00:45:23,983 --> 00:45:24,573
Xhafer: Yes, she is.
:
00:45:24,573 --> 00:45:26,003
That's important for next episode.
:
00:45:26,502 --> 00:45:29,992
Laura: So gonna go talk to this
hybrid and find out what the
:
00:45:29,992 --> 00:45:31,552
fuck's going on with all this.
:
00:45:32,043 --> 00:45:32,413
Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
:
00:45:33,303 --> 00:45:35,903
This is where we see the creepy
kid drawings I mentioned earlier.
:
00:45:36,287 --> 00:45:38,187
Hera is, like, gone, though.
:
00:45:38,647 --> 00:45:43,297
Rosalind and Baltar head to the base
ship as Leader Six arrives on Galactica.
:
00:45:44,357 --> 00:45:47,517
Athena lives her part of
this vi- the vision now here.
:
00:45:47,517 --> 00:45:50,967
She's, like, flashing back and forth
between the vision and reality.
:
00:45:50,967 --> 00:45:53,237
She's wandering around Galactica's halls.
:
00:45:53,907 --> 00:45:55,839
Teryl and Dee try to help here.
:
00:45:56,416 --> 00:45:59,816
Hera turns the corner and sees Leader Six.
:
00:45:59,816 --> 00:46:01,686
Athena rolls up, pulls a gun.
:
00:46:03,086 --> 00:46:08,196
All this as Marines shoulder up 'cause
they're escorting Leader Six around.
:
00:46:08,696 --> 00:46:10,536
Ty's like, "Everyone stand down."
:
00:46:11,285 --> 00:46:16,455
Galen goes and grabs Hera to remove her
from, like, in between all the guns.
:
00:46:16,743 --> 00:46:17,603
Laura: like, "Come get her."
:
00:46:17,693 --> 00:46:18,873
You know, we don't, we don't
:
00:46:18,895 --> 00:46:19,215
Xhafer: Yeah.
:
00:46:19,463 --> 00:46:20,443
Laura: child in between
:
00:46:21,605 --> 00:46:23,155
Xhafer: Yeah, this is bad, bad time.
:
00:46:23,815 --> 00:46:24,135
Yeah
:
00:46:24,883 --> 00:46:28,937
Laura: And Sharon is still,
she just cannot let this go.
:
00:46:28,967 --> 00:46:33,837
She's got this feeling that
the Sixes want child, Hera.
:
00:46:34,227 --> 00:46:34,617
I mean,
:
00:46:35,083 --> 00:46:35,303
Xhafer: Yep.
:
00:46:35,437 --> 00:46:38,687
Laura: stupid, stupid, stupid,
stupid Natalie earlier talking
:
00:46:38,687 --> 00:46:40,287
about how beautiful Hera is.
:
00:46:40,287 --> 00:46:44,407
And she mentioned at that
conversation also that all of
:
00:46:44,407 --> 00:46:46,327
the Cylons know who Hera is.
:
00:46:47,077 --> 00:46:47,377
Xhafer: Yeah.
:
00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:51,660
Laura: ones that she was with on the
base ship when we had her for a while.
:
00:46:52,987 --> 00:46:53,337
Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
:
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:54,640
Laura: Um,
:
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:57,390
Not good.
:
00:46:58,310 --> 00:46:58,720
Athena
:
00:46:58,917 --> 00:46:59,737
Xhafer: Not good.
:
00:47:01,377 --> 00:47:06,357
No, she shoots Natalie just out of rage?
:
00:47:06,997 --> 00:47:07,717
Protection?
:
00:47:08,247 --> 00:47:10,487
We'll talk about it more next
episode because most of the
:
00:47:10,487 --> 00:47:11,987
fallout from this is next episode.
:
00:47:12,477 --> 00:47:16,727
Because w- we see this and we
immediately cut over to the base star
:
00:47:17,107 --> 00:47:20,447
where they plug the hybrid back in
to, like, get it to talk, and the
:
00:47:20,447 --> 00:47:22,897
base ship immediately jumps away.
:
00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:24,060
Laura: The hybrid just
:
00:47:24,157 --> 00:47:24,597
Xhafer: And then...
:
00:47:24,850 --> 00:47:27,590
Laura: orders the jump being plugged in.
:
00:47:28,210 --> 00:47:32,377
Like, almost like, you know, if you
unplugged a machine in the middle
:
00:47:32,377 --> 00:47:34,347
of it doing something, it was the
:
00:47:34,514 --> 00:47:35,594
Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
:
00:47:35,747 --> 00:47:37,057
Laura: in and it just starts right up.
:
00:47:38,107 --> 00:47:38,337
That's
:
00:47:38,344 --> 00:47:38,584
Xhafer: Yep.
:
00:47:39,247 --> 00:47:44,447
Laura: So unclear to me, even
after watching the next episode,
:
00:47:45,098 --> 00:47:46,978
how simultaneous these things are.
:
00:47:46,978 --> 00:47:51,618
Or like, does the hybrid know that
Natalie was shot and that's why we jump?
:
00:47:51,688 --> 00:47:55,628
Or the hybrid's, you know, just having
a hard time being plugged back in?
:
00:47:55,904 --> 00:47:58,624
Xhafer: So part one, like, of the...
:
00:47:58,624 --> 00:48:01,024
The next two episodes are
a two-parter unofficially.
:
00:48:01,354 --> 00:48:05,344
Part one is the colonial side,
part two is the Cylon ship side.
:
00:48:06,364 --> 00:48:10,144
So you haven't watched two episodes ahead,
you've only watched one episode ahead.
:
00:48:11,124 --> 00:48:11,414
Every...
:
00:48:11,414 --> 00:48:15,794
How simultaneous this stuff is
will at the very least be less
:
00:48:15,794 --> 00:48:18,294
ambiguous with that episode.
:
00:48:18,388 --> 00:48:21,958
Laura: some assumptions on the
colonial side in the next episode.
:
00:48:22,458 --> 00:48:22,898
But I'm
:
00:48:22,924 --> 00:48:23,324
Xhafer: Yes.
:
00:48:23,588 --> 00:48:26,198
Laura: it's not clear to me
that, that that is actually
:
00:48:26,198 --> 00:48:28,448
how that went, and that Yeah.
:
00:48:28,678 --> 00:48:30,528
So I, I look forward to knowing.
:
00:48:31,748 --> 00:48:32,378
But yeah.
:
00:48:33,508 --> 00:48:34,905
uh, Gaeta singing
:
00:48:36,551 --> 00:48:36,841
Xhafer: Yep.
:
00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:38,169
All right.
:
00:48:38,169 --> 00:48:39,069
That's the episode.
:
00:48:39,069 --> 00:48:40,829
We're on a scale of one to 12 colonies.
:
00:48:41,349 --> 00:48:42,679
How do you rate this one?
:
00:48:42,783 --> 00:48:43,443
Laura: it's not bad.
:
00:48:44,075 --> 00:48:45,755
we're building up a lot of suspense.
:
00:48:46,350 --> 00:48:46,620
Xhafer: Yeah.
:
00:48:47,275 --> 00:48:51,445
Laura: I've got a lot of
concerns about this whole thing.
:
00:48:51,445 --> 00:48:57,918
I need to find out why the opera house
stuff feels as sinister as it does.
:
00:48:58,928 --> 00:49:01,868
I And, and Athena's so
very worried about it.
:
00:49:02,128 --> 00:49:04,448
And why, why do we want Hera so damn bad?
:
00:49:04,448 --> 00:49:13,608
I really hope, I really hope after Tyrol
was like basted with this, like he's
:
00:49:13,684 --> 00:49:14,024
Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
:
00:49:14,648 --> 00:49:17,568
Laura: the Athena thing happening,
he's got a six in front of him,
:
00:49:17,968 --> 00:49:20,498
Hera seems to be important.
:
00:49:21,138 --> 00:49:24,688
Tyrol is the one who has to go and pick
up Hera and take her away out of this.
:
00:49:25,278 --> 00:49:31,208
Something should fucking click in his
brain that his son is just like Hera.
:
00:49:31,848 --> 00:49:32,698
Just nobody knows
:
00:49:32,754 --> 00:49:33,014
Xhafer: Yeah.
:
00:49:34,018 --> 00:49:34,898
Laura: is half Cylon.
:
00:49:36,094 --> 00:49:37,404
Xhafer: It's weird, right?
:
00:49:37,838 --> 00:49:39,378
Laura: I mean, I c- I plausibly up till
:
00:49:39,394 --> 00:49:40,974
Xhafer: It's weird he
doesn't feel that way?
:
00:49:41,008 --> 00:49:41,398
Laura: feel that way.
:
00:49:41,398 --> 00:49:48,998
Plausibly up to this point, I can
like say, "Okay, I, I can see he
:
00:49:48,998 --> 00:49:50,618
may not have had enough information.
:
00:49:50,618 --> 00:49:53,568
He might not have had privileged
things, knowing about the farms
:
00:49:53,654 --> 00:49:53,944
Xhafer: Yeah.
:
00:49:55,288 --> 00:49:59,878
Laura: But at this point, he should-
realize like, "Oh, this is weird."
:
00:49:59,924 --> 00:50:00,464
Xhafer: really know.
:
00:50:00,624 --> 00:50:00,924
Yeah.
:
00:50:02,118 --> 00:50:06,368
Laura: And the same reason that they
seem to be so interested in Hera,
:
00:50:06,368 --> 00:50:08,328
they might be so interested in Nikki.
:
00:50:08,970 --> 00:50:09,320
Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
:
00:50:10,053 --> 00:50:11,303
Laura: I don't know if I'm gonna get that
:
00:50:11,390 --> 00:50:11,940
Xhafer: We'll see.
:
00:50:12,353 --> 00:50:14,123
Laura: So I, I'll give this, like, a nine.
:
00:50:15,003 --> 00:50:15,663
It's setting up a lot
:
00:50:15,670 --> 00:50:16,930
Xhafer: Okay, I love this episode.
:
00:50:18,180 --> 00:50:18,710
I'm here.
:
00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:20,621
I give this a 10 out of 12.
:
00:50:20,621 --> 00:50:21,861
Solid ep.
:
00:50:22,074 --> 00:50:22,344
Laura: good.
:
00:50:22,584 --> 00:50:23,414
I, I, I just...
:
00:50:24,124 --> 00:50:27,574
put down some things in front
of me, and I'm picking them up.
:
00:50:27,924 --> 00:50:30,294
If you don't address them
again, I'm gonna be real sad.
:
00:50:32,593 --> 00:50:33,113
Xhafer: right.
:
00:50:33,173 --> 00:50:35,823
Well, we'll pick some of that
up next episode, season four,
:
00:50:35,823 --> 00:50:39,483
episode eight, "Cine Qua Non."
:
00:50:39,625 --> 00:50:40,055
Laura: Mm-hmm.
:
00:50:40,736 --> 00:50:44,036
Xhafer: Uh, With Rosalyn missing,
along with the base ship, a new
:
00:50:44,036 --> 00:50:48,366
president must be decided on while
Galactica searches for that base ship.
:
00:50:48,728 --> 00:50:48,888
Laura: Yep.
:
00:50:49,348 --> 00:50:51,008
Xhafer: That's a solid description.
:
00:50:51,231 --> 00:50:51,671
Laura: description.
:
00:50:52,001 --> 00:50:54,131
Not a lot of time passing in this
:
00:50:54,981 --> 00:50:55,221
like.
:
00:50:55,744 --> 00:50:59,264
Xhafer: I get to make a joke
that I've had banked since, like,
:
00:50:59,734 --> 00:51:01,814
episode three of this podcast.
:
00:51:02,284 --> 00:51:04,044
There's your, there's
your little bonus teaser.
:
00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:05,139
Laura: Oh, in that
:
00:51:05,565 --> 00:51:05,825
Xhafer: yeah,
:
00:51:05,869 --> 00:51:06,559
Laura: gonna make it now?
:
00:51:06,645 --> 00:51:07,385
Xhafer: in that episode.
:
00:51:07,685 --> 00:51:08,665
No, I'm not gonna make it now.
:
00:51:09,025 --> 00:51:11,365
You know what happens, so
I could make it to you.
:
00:51:11,895 --> 00:51:12,315
But
:
00:51:12,478 --> 00:51:12,808
uh,
:
00:51:12,831 --> 00:51:12,971
Laura: can
:
00:51:13,108 --> 00:51:13,868
Xhafer: just in case,
:
00:51:13,881 --> 00:51:14,251
Laura: fine.
:
00:51:14,668 --> 00:51:15,538
Xhafer: yeah, I'll just wait a week.
:
00:51:15,538 --> 00:51:15,828
It's...
:
00:51:15,858 --> 00:51:16,558
Sorry, listener.
:
00:51:16,748 --> 00:51:19,128
If you know what happens already, I
feel like the joke's pretty obvious.
:
00:51:19,128 --> 00:51:23,178
I've probably made it in spoiler chat,
and if I haven't, I'm sure someone else
:
00:51:24,207 --> 00:51:26,437
But we'll, we'll deal with that next week.
:
00:51:26,567 --> 00:51:29,157
This week, we gotta say
thank you to Jeremy Siegel.
:
00:51:29,997 --> 00:51:31,947
Jeremy Siegel, 42.bandcamp.com.
:
00:51:31,947 --> 00:51:34,147
Thanks so much for our theme music.
:
00:51:34,147 --> 00:51:36,057
We appreciate it so much.
:
00:51:36,090 --> 00:51:38,640
Laura: And we also appreciate
our podcast artwork by
:
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,470
angryducktimemachine on Instagram.
:
00:51:40,856 --> 00:51:41,716
Xhafer: Sure do.
:
00:51:41,986 --> 00:51:44,976
Aaron, thanks so much for editing this
podcast, making sure it gets out on time,
:
00:51:45,436 --> 00:51:49,346
making sure my offhand comment asking
Beth to get me more tea get edited out.
:
00:51:49,376 --> 00:51:50,596
I appreciate you so much.
:
00:51:50,596 --> 00:51:51,036
Thank you
:
00:51:51,679 --> 00:51:53,609
Laura: And thanks, listener,
for being here with us.
:
00:51:53,919 --> 00:51:58,619
If you have burning thoughts
about What's Coming to Dinner,
:
00:51:59,069 --> 00:52:00,549
come on down to the Discord.
:
00:52:00,889 --> 00:52:01,489
You're welcome
:
00:52:01,670 --> 00:52:02,800
Xhafer: Yeah, it's a chill hang.
:
00:52:03,302 --> 00:52:08,802
I made one post during this episode
about a thing you said, so we'll see.
:
00:52:09,732 --> 00:52:11,052
Laura: That'll be fun
:
00:52:11,282 --> 00:52:13,342
Xhafer: In Spoiler Town, of course, yes.
:
00:52:13,921 --> 00:52:17,151
Uh, If you wanna talk spoilers, you can
get in Spoiler Town and talk spoilers.
:
00:52:17,381 --> 00:52:17,711
Laura: Okay.
:
00:52:17,961 --> 00:52:19,981
Xhafer: But until then, we'll
see you next week, internet.
:
00:52:20,111 --> 00:52:21,241
Laura: bye.
