Wow. That was a frustrating, depressing result. We do our best to dissect the Blues disaster, and move on to a new week - we're still in the hunt, still in the eight - with our 2023 AFL Finals future still in our own control.

This week we're joined by 52-game Saints forward Craig O'Brien, who tells us about playing with Plugger, St Kilda FC's culture, and a hilarious story about getting suspended for chasing an umpire around the streets of Melbourne after a VFL game in 1992.

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Thanks as always to the great Lloyd Spiegel for the use of his "OWTS" as our intro track!