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August 5, 2025 | 2 Kings 22-23, 2 Chronicles 34-35
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00:00 Intro Things

00:10 Understanding Righteous Indignation

00:56 Biblical Perspective on Anger and Sin

02:41 The Role of Scripture in Shaping Our Responses

06:18 King Josiah: A Model of Godly Leadership

10:39 Josiah's Reforms and Legacy

18:04 The Significance of Josiah's Passover

20:51 Conclusion and Prayer

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Hey everybody.

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Welcome back to another edition

of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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Hello everybody.

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It is Tuesday and we have another

question that as promised we're

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gonna get to here on the podcast.

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It has to do if I can just paint

the category probably with the

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question about righteous indignation.

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That's a phrase that we talk about in

the church, which really has to do with

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getting angry in a way that is not sinful.

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There is a category in

scripture provided for that.

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In fact, Paul says, be

angry and do not sin.

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So all anger is not necessarily sinful

anger, but how do we approach this

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concept of righteous indignation?

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The question specifically

was dealing with.

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Is it good and right to feel anger,

disgusted, et cetera, over sin?

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And conversely, is it wrong?

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And he says, disordered to not

feel anger and disgusted at sin.

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So I think.

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This is really looking at the same

issue from two different sides here.

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Let's deal with the first one the anger.

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Is it right to be angry over sin?

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I'll say yes.

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So long as our anger is again righteous.

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And the key to that, I believe,

is that our anger is connected

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more to the offensive.

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Of God than it is to the, of offense

of our own sensibilities or our own

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morals or our own standards or whatever.

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It will transgress those things.

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However, it should transgress those

things because those are the morals,

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the standards the ethics that God

has put in place first and foremost.

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So then what causes our

indignation over the loss of life?

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For example, somebody being

murdered or, you've got.

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The sin of the perversion of marriage

and gender issues and things.

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What should cause our anger is that

this is a, an offense against God.

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We talked about it in the last

episode, fearing God, this

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is the world not fearing God.

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This is the world.

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Throwing the fist in the face of God and

saying, we're gonna defy you and we are

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gonna pervert your design and we are gonna

reject your design and we're gonna reject

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your morals, your standards, your ethics.

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That's what should cause us to be angry.

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Not because we feel like our own sense

of justice is, has been offended or.

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Our own sensibilities have been

wronged on the other side of things,

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is it wrong not to feel that anger?

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In, in some degree, yes.

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I think it is.

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I think there's a sense where

our holiness does need to be

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in tune with God's holiness.

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Our sense of what is right and

wrong does need to be in tune with

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God's sense of right and wrong.

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And in a sense of his own,

awareness and perception.

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Here he says, I, I fear that

maybe at times we can become.

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Puts it this way desensitized to

perhaps cultural brainwashing and

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whether it's cultural brainwashing

or not, I think he's right.

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We can become desensitized to sin

and we can lose our desired response,

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our god's desired response in us.

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Because we look at that sin, we think

it's not that big of a deal because

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we see it everywhere in society, and

we live in a world that has deemed it

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to be appropriate and not sin anymore.

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And that's why it's so important for us

to be in God's word on a daily basis.

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It's why it's so important for us

to know what God's word says on

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things, and that is our final stance.

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That is our final arbiter, not how the

world thinks about something or how we

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ultimately may want to feel about it.

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But what does God's word say

that's going to inform how I

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respond to a given cultural issue?

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Pr your thoughts.

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The organ that the Bible calls

the heart is multifaceted.

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It is comprised of three.

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What we would call three dynamics

that make up the whole of who you are.

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And so the first one is

the obvious one here.

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Your heart can refer to your

emotional state, the way that

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you feel about certain things.

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The other would be the way that you

think about things, the way that

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you understand the world around you.

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And then lastly, your volition,

your act of conscience, your

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will, what you do with your life.

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So when the Bible talks about your

heart, it's talking about the.

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The composite of these three

things working together.

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They're not separate parts per se.

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They're part of the whole, so the, your

thinking, your feeling and your doing.

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I love your question, Matt, because

I think it really helps at least

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tease out some of these pieces

and help us to put them together.

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And so let me tackle it this way.

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I think it's, I think your

question is right headed.

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We should feel the

feelings that God feels.

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When God feels anger towards sin,

we should feel anger towards sin.

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And if we don't feel anger towards

sin, if we're calloused and

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cold-hearted toward it, it's because

we don't feel the way God does.

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That means our conscience is not

attuned to the way that God works and

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therefore it would be wrong for us.

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And so I would say that in so far

as we are reflecting kinda what you

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were saying, PPJ, as we're reflecting

scripture, we should reflect the way

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that scripture presents an emotionally

healthy response to things around us.

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I immediately thought

of Ezekiel chapter nine.

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In relation to your question, Matt, it

says this, and the Lord said to him,

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pass through the city, through Jerusalem

and put a mark on the foreheads of the

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men who sigh and groan over all the

abominations that are committed in it.

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This marking was meant to preserve

these people, to protect them because

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God sees them as responding rightly

to the sins that are committed inside.

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And I think that's true for us

in the sense that God wants us to

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respond with the right thoughts,

the right emotions, and the right.

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Actions to things that are evil.

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I think the biggest challenge with

this is that our hearts are so often

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wrongly attuned or misattuned that our

anger ends up being more than ungodly.

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You were saying earlier that the danger

is that you respond in a sinful way.

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And I think that's probably most often

what we experience because our hearts

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are they're informed and they're.

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Shaped by so many other outside influences

that it's hard to know for sure.

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Am I feeling the right feeling about

the particular murder that you mentioned

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here, Austin about Austin Metcalf.

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All that to say, I think the

scriptures are really helpful.

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And I think you said this also,

pastor pg I'm just saying exactly

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what you said with my words.

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No, it's good.

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I think we need to have our heart

shaped by scripture, and the only way

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to successfully do that is to have your

heart so immersed and so shaped by the

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way that God speaks and the way that

God thinks and the way that God feels

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that you have a more reliable guide.

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When you respond to things that are

not explicitly stated in scripture.

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So all that to say, it's a

good thing that you're in your

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Bible over the course of time.

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As you spend more and more time

here, the more you'll find yourself

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responding thinking, feeling, and

acting in alignment with the way

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that God says is right and good.

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It's kinda like that song.

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Have you heard that song recently?

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Dusty Bibles.

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Yes.

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Such a good song.

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Yeah.

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Have you guys listened to this song yet?

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Josiah Queen, I think.

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That's the one, yes.

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It's folksy sounding.

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He's, he is a young, new artist,

but I love that song, if you haven't

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listened to it yet, Josiah Queen.

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Yeah.

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Josiah Queen.

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Josiah Queen dusty Bibles.

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I, that's a great song.

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Yeah.

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And in fact, his name matches

who we're talking about today.

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Ah, king that is a transition if

there ever was one right there.

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Yeah.

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King Josiah, man.

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Great question Matthew.

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Thanks for submitting that and hopefully

that was a helpful response from us.

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King Josiah is next up and we open up

with him in two King Chapter 22 and 23.

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And King Josiah is really such a, a.

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Says he's a good king in the Bible.

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That's an understatement.

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It says he did everything according

to the ways of David, his father.

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And there's so many things here

that I think, Hezekiah, we just

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came off Hezekiah not long ago.

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Hezekiah was a good king.

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But there's some key differences

between him and Josiah here.

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And Josiah is just a king set to

do the good things set to do things

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in a way that honors the Lord.

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After ordering that.

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The temple should be repaired.

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The book of the law is found in the

reparation process of the temple.

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They bring it to the king, they read it

to the king, and he tears his clothes.

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That's a sign of mourning.

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This is verse 11.

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So he goes into mourning because

he realizes just how far the people

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of Israel had fallen short of

what God had called them to do.

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That's the right response too.

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Totally the right response, and

that's should be our response to sin.

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Talking about sin, right?

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How do we respond to sin?

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I think here we see.

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One other response besides anger over

the offense against God should be,

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man, it should sober us and cause

us to feel this conviction that

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he, we go in a mourning over that.

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And he's, he explains why here in verse

13, he says, for great is the wrath

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of the Lord that is kindled against

us because our fathers have not obeyed

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the words of this book to do according

to all that's written according.

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Concerning us I, my mind went to

Deuteronomy 28, which is the chapter

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that deals, details, the blessings

and the cursings, blessings for

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obedience, cursings for disobedience.

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And so I don't know if that's

exactly what Josiah was thinking

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of, but it's the book of the law.

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It's part of the Pentateuch.

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And so he knew that Israel was in

trouble, and so he responds the right.

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Way.

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And that response is not just conviction.

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That feels sorrow, and that

could lead to self-pity, but it's

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also penitential and repentant.

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Look down at verse 19.

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God commence him and says, because

your heart was penitent and you

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humbled yourself before the Lord.

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When you heard how I spoke against this

place and against its inhabitants, that

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they should become a desolation and a

curse God's gonna say, look, I'm gonna

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gather you to your fathers, and you're

gonna be gathered to your grave in peace,

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and your eye shall not see the disaster

that I will bring upon this place.

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And so Josiah in, in chapter

22, the book's discovered.

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He finds it, he reads it.

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He realizes, man, we are in trouble.

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And and he is penitent before the Lord.

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And the Lord says, Hey,

look, I'm not gonna bring the

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judgment upon you in your time.

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And this is where there's a key

difference between him and Hezekiah.

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'cause I think Hezekiah, if we

know how he responded after God

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said, Hey, don't worry, Babylon's

not gonna come into your life.

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And Hezekiah said, great.

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As long as it's not my time, I don't care.

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Josiah doesn't say that.

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In fact, that's chapter 23, where

Josiah gathers the people and

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begins to in institute some reforms

there, but pr Anything else on, on

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chapter 22 before we jump in there?

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Yeah.

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I just wanna note here what you

talked about at the very beginning.

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I wanna point out to your

attention, verse two.

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Josiah did what was right in the eyes

of the Lord and walked in all the way

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of David, his father, and did not turn

aside to the right or to the left.

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Just wanna make this point, Josiah

is given the kind of superlative

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that no other king enjoys.

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He's the only king of all the Judean

kings that receives this kind of phrase.

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The others, Hezekiah

gets something similar.

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And there's another good king that also

Asa gets something similar as well.

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But Josiah's the only one that gets

this precise phrase, and I think he's.

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The best king that Judah ever

enjoys short of David himself.

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So I think it's really cool.

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And that's why most of what

you read here in Two Kings and

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Chronicles is largely positive.

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There is one small area at the end of

his life where you're, it's unclear

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exactly what's going on in his mind.

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It doesn't look like it's a

good thing, but by and large, he

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receives accolades from the writers

of two Kings and Chronicles.

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And that's worth noting.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And it also, I don't know about

you, but when I think of David, I.

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And more often prone to

think of his flaws than I am.

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His, the good things about him.

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I, yeah, I, they're they'd come

pretty quickly after I think

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about the good things for sure.

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Yeah.

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Because of his sin with Bathsheba

and then, Absalom and Amon

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and Tamar and all that stuff.

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It's just.

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There's so many of his warts that

are there, but he is held up as a

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standard of that was his commendable.

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And God says he was a

man after his own heart.

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And so it's a good reminder

for us to say, man, David was

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a godly man and a godly king.

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And yeah, Josiah's.

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The accommodation of Josiah

there in chapter 22 walking

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after David, I agree with you.

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I think he probably was one of the

best kings that, that Judah ever had.

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Oh, yeah.

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In chapter 23, what I love is that again,

he doesn't just kick his feet up and go,

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okay it's not gonna happen in my lifetime.

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So upset.

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He gathers the people and he

reads, and I take it to be him.

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I don't, maybe it was one of his

servants or maybe one of the priests

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he ordered to read the law, but the

text says he read the law and the.

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Accountant.

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Second Chronicles says the same thing.

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He read in the hearing all the words

of the book of the Covenant that had

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been found in the house of the Lord.

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And then beyond that, he says,

we're gonna make a covenant.

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Now, this is not one of the big covenants.

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This is not a covenant that God

makes with his people, but this is

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a covenant that Josiah is making.

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As the king in calling

the people to join him in.

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And that covenant is going to be to

walk, to keep, and to perform the

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words written in the law of the Lord.

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In other words, it's a

covenant of obedience.

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Josiah is saying the problem is,

and he recognized that in chapter

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22, we've been disobedient.

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So chapter 23 is now gonna be

about repentance, and we've

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talked about this recently.

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I think repentance is not just feeling

bad about your sin, it's not just.

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Changing your mind about your

sin, but it's actually bearing

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fruit and keeping with repentance.

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And that's chapter 23.

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From here on, he goes on

and basically cleans house.

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He brings out all of the

idols from the temple.

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He destroys things.

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He defiles the altars even goes

up into the northern parts of

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the kingdom to some of the altars

that Jerome and others had set up.

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And he does something

that's really interesting.

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He takes the bones of the priests,

the godless priests up there, and

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he burns them on these altars.

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And that would've been to

defile them even more so that

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they could never be used again.

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Josiah is on a rampage at this

point, but it's a good rampage.

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It's a rampage for the Lord.

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And he is going to just.

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This covenant that he makes,

he follows through on it.

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And he is a man that leaves just

a fantastic and phenomenal legacy

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aside from, again this ending of

chapter 23, which has to do with

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Pharaon, Nico and some things there.

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But yeah, to your point, verse 25, PR

says Before him, there was no king like

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him who turned to the Lord with all his

heart and with all his soul, and with all

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his might according to the law of Moses,

nor did any like him arise after him.

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So that's a pretty strong.

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Epitaph there.

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That's an endorsement

of his legacy for sure.

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I love the facts and this uniquely stood

out to me as I read through this time.

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I love that he went to Bethel and

went to go defile their pagan sites.

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Yeah.

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In verse number five, here

in chapter 23, it says.

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Actually verse four, it says that

he he burned them outside Jerusalem

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in the fields of the kidron and

carried their ashes to Bethel.

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At first, I'm like, why did he do that?

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And then I realized a few

verses later in verse 15.

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Moreover, the alter at Bethel, the

high place is erected by Jira Bois

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and a Neba who made his Israel of sin

that alter with a high place he pulled

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down and burned, reducing it to dust.

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And so he's trying to do

exactly what you said.

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He's defiling areas where there's

potential for Judah to want

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to pursue the false deities.

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Of the Northern Kingdom or

anyone else for that matter.

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I think that's helpful for me.

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I think about the avenues wherein we

might be tempted to sin, things that we

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might be, seduced by just because it's

available to us, it's convenient to us.

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And I think Josiah shows us a

principle that's helpful for us in

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the New Testament, which is to find

ways or opportunities where there's

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potential for you to sin and say,

I know that's a weakness for me.

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I'm gonna do everything

I can to knock that out.

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I wanna cut off that avenue, even though

the avenue itself is not inherently bad.

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Bethel was in a bad place, but he knew

that those temptations were particularly.

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Enticing to his people, and

therefore he cut them off.

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So helpful.

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It's as the old Puritan says, John Owen,

be killing sin or it will be killing you.

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There is no neutrality when it comes

to sin, and therefore we ought to deal

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with it in a similar way to Josiah

taking sin seriously, cutting off its

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avenues and doing whatever we need to

remove its influence from our lives.

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I remember one story, one of my

friends when he got saved, he

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had this massive CD collection.

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Do you guys remember what CDs are?

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Do you know what a CD is?

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They were like, they

were like DVDs, right?

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But they played music and stuff.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah.

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Old technology.

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He had this massive collection,

and when you had a collection like

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that, it was something enviable.

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You know when you had those massive books

that you'd put in your car, big folders

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with the big, yeah, there was like four

or six of 'em on each page, and then

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you would flip the pages back and forth.

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Those were the good old

days, kids, let me tell you.

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That was fun.

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I love that.

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Anyway, he had this massive

book and he said, I got, I threw

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all of them away to my shock.

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I'm saying, why would you do that?

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Not all of that was sin.

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Surely some of them probably need to get

rid of, but he threw away a, all of them.

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And he said, because all of that

was for me before Christ was related

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to my old life, under the curse of

sin, under its total age and under

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its slavery, all those things.

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And so for him, it was better for

him just to get rid of everything.

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Yeah.

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And to start fresh with.

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Worship CDs and super tones and

whoever else was out at that point.

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And now that I look at Josiah, I think

maybe that was the right call after all.

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Yeah, there's that scene.

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You remember that movie that

came out in the late nineties,

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early two thousands, fireproof.

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Oh, the Kirk Cameron.

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Kirk Cameron, yeah.

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Where the, he takes the computer, which

was a source of a problem for him.

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And he takes it out in his driveway.

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Yeah.

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He drop, kicks it or drop

kicks it and beats it with a

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baseball bat and stuff like that.

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That's another example of that.

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It's Jesus, right On

the sermon on the mount.

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If your right hand calls you to

sin, cut it off and throw it away.

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If your eye calls you to sin,

gouge it out and throw it away.

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These are metaphorical commands by him,

but it's the radical dealing with any,

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anything that could be a source of sin.

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And Josiah does that, not just for

himself, but corporately for the people.

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He's leading the people

so well in doing this.

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And as the king goes, so goes the people,

as the husband goes, so goes the family.

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As the pastor goes, so goes the church.

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The principle of leadership here is why

they enjoy such a season of prosperity.

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Now there's also issues to be sure,

'cause we're gonna read about that.

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Tomorrow.

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We'll read about some of the

issues tomorrow, but for now, just

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notice he's setting a trajectory.

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He's setting a wake that all people

follow behind, and it's a good one.

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Would we, would that we

had people like this.

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Yeah, for sure.

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God, give us more.

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Josiah's.

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Second Chronicles 34 and 35.

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The companion reading here chapter 34 is

a lot of, again, what we just read about.

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One thing that jumped out in the

Chronicles account, I can't remember

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if it was there in the King's account,

but just where the age markers.

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Eight years old when he begins to reign.

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It says in verse three that

he's 16 when he begins to really

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set his heart to seek the Lord.

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And that's a good reminder for us.

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We've, you've probably dealt with this

much more than I have in your years in

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student ministry, but adolescence is a.

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Is a cultural construct, right?

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It's something that has its purposes

and I think there's some reasons why

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it's good, but I think we also can fall

prey into thinking that our young people

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are not capable of doing things that

they're, they really are capable of.

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Totally.

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And so it's a different time, but.

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16 years old, and he begins to set

his heart to, to pursue the Lord.

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26 years old, verse eight in

the 18th year of his reign.

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So he is 26 years old when he, when the

book of the laws is discovered, and he

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goes on this this cleansing rampage that

we were just talking about from two Kings.

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So he's a young man, 26 years old.

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When I was 26, I didn't necessarily

think I was a young man, but now at 41,

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I'm going, man, he was a young dude.

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He was a young buck.

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For sure when he did this.

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And he just, he loves God and he's gonna

set himself to, to follow the Lord.

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here in chapter 34.

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So it's a lot of the same things.

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He makes that covenant

again and calls the people.

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Verse 32, he made all who were present in

Jerusalem and Ben and in Benjamin to join

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it, to join with them in the covenant.

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credit that the people.

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Did it.

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To, to your point, I think

they respond to his leadership.

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They're going, okay,

here's a strong leadership.

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We're gonna get behind this and we're

gonna do what he's calling us to do.

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And I think that just showcases the

way that God designs the world to work.

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Leadership affects its followers.

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And so for all of us who lead families

or homes or businesses, or even just

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lead ourselves, your leadership has

an influence on those around you.

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And the significance of

it cannot be overstated.

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Something that we didn't really dive

in into much back in this, the King's

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account, we get a whole chapter about

here in Chapter 35, and that's the

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Passover that Josiah keeps on top of this.

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And so he not only noted that there was

all of this idolatry that was rampant,

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but that the Passover had not really been

observed very well by his predecessors.

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And so he sets out to observe

the Passover, and there's a

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line that is here in verse 18.

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It says, no Passover like it had been.

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Kept in Israel since the days of Samuel

the prophet, none of the kings of

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Israel had kept such a Passover rose.

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It was kept by Josiah and the

priest and the Levites and

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this time reading through it.

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I think the reason being is because

of how intentional he was to do things

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exactly by the book, and just the

generosity and the general sense of.

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Of community and the participation

by everybody involved that you see

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here in chapter 35, which is again,

part of his leadership impact here.

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But I think that's what led to this

being such a significant Passover.

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'cause there were other

Passovers that were observed.

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But I think what makes this one

so unique is he was saying, we're

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doing this exactly by the book.

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And everybody was all in

and fully committed to it.

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There was no going

through the motions here.

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what made it by the book was

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that it was a heartfelt endeavor.

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Something that everyone participated

in, joyfully, generously, and with

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integrity according to what the word said.

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Put it over the edge.

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The end of Josiah's life

is a little bit odd.

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Pharaon, Nico goes up to battle.

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It says here, the King of Egypt

came up to fight at Kamish.

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And Josiah goes out to, to

confront him, to fight him.

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And there's this, bless you.

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A fascinating interaction here where

the King of Egypt says to his to

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Josiah, he says, you need to go home.

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'cause God told me to

come out here and do this.

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And the text.

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Actually says there he did not listen to

the words of Nico from the mouth of God.

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This is verse 22, but came out

to fight in the P of Megiddo and

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he ends up dying in battle there.

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So it looks like this is a stumble by

Josiah towards the end of his life.

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Not to the same extent as we've seen the

other kings stumble, but it seems that he

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did not listen to Nico and recognize that

God was speaking through this foreigner

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telling him, Hey, Josiah, go back home.

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This isn't your battle to fight.

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So he meets his a, a tragic

end with this battle with Nico.

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It is fascinating that God

spoke to this pagan and this

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pagan communicated honestly.

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To Josiah.

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God told me to do this and

he was telling the truth.

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What do you do with that?

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If he can use Cyrus, if he can use

Nebuchadnezzar, if he can move them

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like chess pieces around the boards

or accomplish his plans and his will.

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Or a donkey.

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Or a donkey, I think it.

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It's, it fits with those things.

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I it's awe inspiring to be sure,

but I think if this were, its only

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thing that we ever had in here in

the Bible about him using pagans

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in the accomplishing of his will or

communication of his messages it, yeah,

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it's God's ways are mysterious for sure.

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Amen to that.

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Yeah.

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Hey, let's pray and then we

will be done with this episode

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of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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God, we thank you so much for your word

and for these chapters in Second King.

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Second Chronicles.

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We thank you for Josiah's life

and his pattern, his example.

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We pray that as you give us opportunity

to to leader, to influence others, be

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it at home or in our workplace, wherever

it may be, that we would set ourselves

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to lead in this way, that we would set

ourselves to lead in a way that honors

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you first and foremost, and that we

would be sensitive to your word and

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its principles for guiding us in how we

conduct ourselves and lead our families.

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And God, thank you for Josiah and for

his impact, his legacy, his testimony,

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and we pray that you would raise up

more people like him not just in our

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churches, but also even in our nation.

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As you call us to pray for our

rulers, pray for our nation.

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We do ask for those things as well.

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So we thank you, God, for his example.

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We pray this in Jesus name.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Keep bring your Bibles tuning

in tomorrow for another edition

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of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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