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Heather Marianna is back on the podcast to chat with Blair about adult friendships, betrayal and a new way to make genuine adult friends. This is her story, and she is RESILIENT A.F.
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About the Guest:
Heather Marianna is a powerhouse entrepreneur and the visionary founder of Beauty Kitchen, a brand she launched in 2012 after leaving her 9-to-5 job to pursue her passion for skincare, DIY beauty, and natural ingredients. What began as a YouTube series teaching at-home beauty recipes quickly evolved into a full-scale beauty empire—and she’s been trailblazing ever since.
With years of hands-on experience, Heather has built and scaled multiple beauty brands from the ground up, mastering every facet of the business—from product formulation, pricing, and marketing to public relations, manufacturing, business credit, payroll, and retail strategy. She has even taken a company public and remains the majority shareholder, solidifying her reputation as a results-driven leader who not only talks about success but creates it. Her expertise has been featured in numerous books and articles, earning her recognition as one of the top authorities in beauty brand development and manufacturing.
Celebrity Gifting Lounges – Exclusive Exposure for Brands
Beyond brand creation, Heather is also the producer of the #1 Celebrity Gifting Lounge for Oscars and Emmys Week—a premier event that connects brands directly with A-list celebrities, influencers, media, and top industry insiders. Her gifting lounges have helped participating brands secure major media coverage, celebrity endorsements, and increased national visibility. Whether representing beauty, fashion, wellness or lifestyle, the brands showcased at these events benefit from unmatched exposure and credibility.
Coaching for Existing and Emerging Brands
Heather’s work doesn’t stop at startups. She also coaches established beauty and lifestyle brands looking to reignite growth, expand their markets, or refine their strategies. Through her one-on-one coaching and consulting, she helps business owners identify blind spots, improve pricing and marketing, and develop clear action plans for sustainable success.
Why Work With Heather Marianna?
Widely known as the Queen of Manufacturing, Heather offers low MOQs (minimum order quantities), flexible production options, and access to over 400 white-label formulas, allowing entrepreneurs to launch or expand their beauty brands with ease. She provides a one-stop solution—offering everything from custom product formulation and branding guidance to business strategy and coaching.
Over the past decade, Heather has empowered countless entrepreneurs, celebrities, and TV personalities to launch and scale their own beauty lines. Her deep understanding of what it takes to move a concept from idea to retail-ready success makes her an invaluable mentor for anyone serious about building a thriving brand.
Building and Scaling with the Right Support
Heather believes success doesn’t happen by accident—it’s the result of smart strategy, expert guidance, and consistent evolution. Through her digital workbooks, mini-courses, product development packages, and private coaching, she offers tailored support for entrepreneurs at every stage of their journey. Whether launching a new brand or scaling an existing business, Heather Marianna helps clients avoid costly mistakes, fast-track their growth, and build brands that stand out in competitive markets.
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About the Hosts:
Blair Kaplan Venables is a British Columbia-based grief and resilience expert and coach, motivational speaker and the Founder of The Global Resilience Project. Her expertise has been featured on media platforms like Forbes, TEDx, CBC Radio, Entrepreneur, and Thrive Global. She is named the Top Grief and Resilience Expert of the Year 2024 by IAOTP. USA Today listed Blair as one of the top 10 conscious female leaders to watch and she empowers others to be resilient from stages around the world. 'MyStory,’ which is a television show available on Amazon Prime Video, Apple TV+ and Google Play, showcases Blair's life story. She is the host of the Radical Resilience podcast and specializes in helping people strengthen their resilience muscle using scientifically proven methods and guides grieving high performers with her Navigating Grief Framework. The Global Resilience Project’s award-winning book series are international bestsellers, and her fourth book, RESILIENT A.F.: Stories of Resilience Vol 2, will be published in January 2025. In her free time, you can find Blair writing, in nature, travelling the world and helping people to strengthen their resilience muscles.
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Alana Kaplan is a compassionate mental health professional based in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. She works in the mental health field, and is a co-host of the Resilient A.F. podcast. Fueled by advocacy, Alana is known for standing up and speaking out for others. Passionate about de-stigmatizing and normalizing mental health, Alana brings her experience to The Global Resilience Project’s team, navigating the role one’s mental health plays in telling their story.
Engaging in self-care and growth keeps her going, and her love for reading, travel, and personal relationships helps foster that. When she’s not working, Alana can often be found on walks, working on a crossword puzzle, or playing with any animal she sees.
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As you get older, it's very hard to make, like
Speaker:you said, genuine friendships that are like, not attached
Speaker:to something. Right. Like when I first moved to Vegas,
Speaker:you know, and I got really well known, I was doing all these TV shows,
Speaker:I had a lot of people that I thought were my friends. And in
Speaker:2020, I got rid of a lot of people.
Speaker:I will never forget my assistant sitting in
Speaker:my bedroom with me and I went blocked.
Speaker:Blocked. No explanation, blocked. But what, like, what
Speaker:triggered all that? Like, why? Just I think 2020 Covid
Speaker:brought out the worst in people. And there were a lot of people that were
Speaker:my friends who were actually like, I was paying them to help me with things
Speaker:because they needed the help or even like my former, like, PR
Speaker:rep, you know, that I really genuinely thought we had
Speaker:like a great working relationship and we were also friends. And, you
Speaker:know, Covid brought out the worst of them and I was like, wow, if
Speaker:I'm just a paycheck, then I can hire someone else.
Speaker:Welcome back to another episode of Resilient AF with Blair
Speaker:and Alana. But no Alana today. Hold the Alanna and bring in
Speaker:the Heather. Marianna, you may recognize her because she has been in multiple books
Speaker:of ours and she's been on the show before. She is
Speaker:phenomenal. Not only is she a friend, but she is a force to be reckoned
Speaker:with. I love her grit, her business sense, and she's just one of the
Speaker:funniest people I know. So who the heck is Heather? Her full
Speaker:bio is in the show notes, but she's the queen of beauty brand
Speaker:building, manufacturing and celebrity gifting lounges.
Speaker:She launched Beauty Kitchen in 2012 after leaving her 9 to 5
Speaker:job, turning her passion for skincare, DIY beauty and natural
Speaker:ingredients into a thriving brand. What started as a YouTube series,
Speaker:teaching at home beauty recipes, quickly evolved into a full scale beauty
Speaker:empire and she never looked back. Over the years,
Speaker:she's built this business up and over the last couple
Speaker:years, she's taken on celebrity gifting lounges. So
Speaker:these are amazing. Her last show was about these, but basically brands
Speaker:that participate in her gifting lounges around big Hollywood events like
Speaker:the Oscars and the Emmys. They're featured in major publications,
Speaker:we get celebrity endorsements, we secure national media attention
Speaker:opportunities that can be game changing for business and
Speaker:helps visibility and credibility. Heather has always thought about her customers
Speaker:first. And what's been really beautiful about getting to know Heather on the
Speaker:business side is that I've gotten to know her a lot on the personal side
Speaker:and I am so honored to have her here today. And today we're going to
Speaker:talk about. Well, there's lots to talk about with Heather all the time. But today
Speaker:we're going to talk about betrayal and
Speaker:what it's like as an adult making friends, trusting people,
Speaker:and how we're navigating all that. So welcome back, Heather.
Speaker:Thank you for having me again. I can't wait for you to come visit me.
Speaker:I know. I can't wait. Vegas, here I come. Okay, so
Speaker:this, like, you
Speaker:are an innovator. Like, you, like, every time I talk to you and what's really.
Speaker:Okay, you're very humble. So, like, I don't know your full story.
Speaker:You're not that person that as soon as you meet you, you, you
Speaker:trauma dump everything in your life. So now we've been
Speaker:friends for a few years, and every time we get
Speaker:together on a personal note or even in business, like, more and more layers come
Speaker:undone. And, like, you have had so many different, like,
Speaker:successful ventures. You know, your model agency, when you were in New York,
Speaker:you were in law school, you started this business. You had a crazy,
Speaker:like, you sold your business, and then other things happened with that. That's
Speaker:for our next book. You know,
Speaker:on the personal side, you know, you have so many hilarious stories and,
Speaker:like, lessons learned the hard way. And it's
Speaker:interesting because we just offline talked about, like, what is the
Speaker:focus today? Because there's so much to talk about. And we talked about
Speaker:friendship, trusting people, and betrayal. And what's really
Speaker:interesting is, like, because friendships, like, there's like,
Speaker:what do they say people are in your life for a reason? A season or
Speaker:a lifetime. And so I have a few friends I've had
Speaker:since childhood who are like lifetime lifers, same as an
Speaker:adult. Meeting new friends who are, like,
Speaker:legit is hard.
Speaker:I would have to agree with that. And you and I met,
Speaker:didn't know who you were. You didn't know who I was. I held space. You
Speaker:were going through some stuff at that time. And we developed this really beautiful, genuine
Speaker:friendship out of, like, a connection
Speaker:and humanity in humility and, like,
Speaker:vulnerability. And it's never been about, what
Speaker:can we get from each other. It's always been about
Speaker:us seeing each other for who we are. And I think that's what's really
Speaker:beautiful about our friendship. And yes, we've had, like, business dealings. Like, you're in our
Speaker:books, and I come to the gifting lounges and we do, you know, we pass
Speaker:each other. Business stuff together, but great partnership
Speaker:with that. You know, it's all like, that's all, like, bonuses to the
Speaker:friendship. And I remember you saying, like, I checked in with you at the last
Speaker:event, you know, like, Blair, like, you're one of the only people who actually,
Speaker:like, care about, like, ask me genuinely how about how I'm doing.
Speaker:Yeah, like, man, if you don't care about how your friends are doing,
Speaker:are they, like, are you guys really friends? Like, correct. Especially when
Speaker:you're carrying the weight of the world on your shoulder. So, like, let's talk about
Speaker:betrayal. Let's talk about your story. Well, I mean, I feel
Speaker:like, you know, as you get older,
Speaker:it's very hard to make, like you said, genuine friendships that
Speaker:are, like, not attached to something. Right. Like, when I first
Speaker:moved to Vegas, you know, and I got really well known, I was
Speaker:doing all these TV shows, I had a lot of people that I thought were
Speaker:my friends. And in 2020,
Speaker:I got rid of a lot of people. I will never forget
Speaker:my assistant sitting in my bedroom with me, and I went
Speaker:blocked. Blocked. No explanation.
Speaker:Blocked. But what, like, what triggered all that? Like, why? Just. I
Speaker:think 2020, Covid brought out the worst in people. And there were a lot of
Speaker:people that were my friends who were actually, like, I was paying them to help
Speaker:me with things because they needed the help or even like my former,
Speaker:like, PR rep, you know, that I really
Speaker:genuinely thought we had, like, a great working relationship and we were also friends. And,
Speaker:you know, Covid brought out the worst of them and I was like, wow,
Speaker:if I'm just a paycheck, then I can hire someone else. Yeah. You
Speaker:know, so, so, yeah, So I, you know, there's
Speaker:been a lot. And then, you know, I had something which I'm not going to
Speaker:discuss here, which I, I did discuss with you, happened recently with
Speaker:a friend who I genuinely was trying to help her out. And
Speaker:yeah, I couldn't believe that at all. I was like, wow. So
Speaker:I just blocked her. Like, I'm the, I'm the person that I don't really need
Speaker:to get the last word. Like, I'll just. You're done.
Speaker:Moving on. And you and I have actually been. I don't need to, like,
Speaker:call you. We've been in business situations together where there has been
Speaker:betrayal. And like, you and I, I
Speaker:think. Well, you, I, I, me too. But we, we lead with our
Speaker:hearts. And when you're like that, I think it's very easy for
Speaker:someone who is an. To take advantage. Yes.
Speaker:And, like, I know, like, speaking for
Speaker:me, I am a sober, childless bird
Speaker:watcher. Like, where do you meet other people? Like, a lot of my
Speaker:friends are friends with like their kids, friends,
Speaker:parents, or like they meet at the bar or like over drinks
Speaker:or like. And when you have a lot of. Friends that I just.
Speaker:We have to plan lunches like once a month and I. They are
Speaker:genuine friends of mine, but a lot of their stuff revolves around children.
Speaker:Yeah. And there's nothing wrong with that. But when you like, I. You moved to
Speaker:Vegas. I moved to where I am four years ago. It is so
Speaker:hard to meet genuine people.
Speaker:Yes. And you know, I know we're in different countries, but like, I think it's
Speaker:just like some people are so self involved or maybe they have lots
Speaker:going on. Like, maybe it's like illness and work and children and this and that.
Speaker:But like, it's not hard to be nice. Oh
Speaker:my gosh. I say that all the time. So, like, for example,
Speaker:I was posting on my Facebook and I was like, why is everybody so
Speaker:these days? Like, no one says hi. No one holds the
Speaker:door anymore. Like, they're just rude. So like, I go out
Speaker:of my way because I feel like it doesn't like cost anything
Speaker:to be nice, you know? Like yesterday I got my groceries delivered and I had
Speaker:like my under eye patches on and the guy that delivered was like, I use
Speaker:those with my daughter. We love those. And I go, well, if you
Speaker:want to wait five seconds, I'll give you a whole bunch. And he was like,
Speaker:what? Gave him a whole stack of them. And he's like, my daughter is
Speaker:going to be so happy. But it's like, doesn't take much
Speaker:to make someone's day, you know, and be nice. Yeah.
Speaker:And like, I think like, okay, so there's like being nice to strangers, but then
Speaker:there's like the people who you let in. Right, right. And like,
Speaker:they're. Everyone has like different
Speaker:levels of letting in. Like my sister and I joke because I'm like, I meet
Speaker:someone and I think they're rad. Immediately I'm like, let's be. And like, I try
Speaker:to get together with them and. And then my sister, I don't do that. No.
Speaker:My sister is slow to warm. She says, like, it takes a while for her
Speaker:to warm up. Usually within hanging out with me within like a day, you know,
Speaker:my entire life story, my blood type, like, you know, like all my.
Speaker:But. But I think, like, I love hard.
Speaker:Like I love my friends hard, whether they're new friends or not. And
Speaker:then I feel like this abandonment where it's
Speaker:like, if I'm putting in all that effort to a new friend. And
Speaker:it's like, there's not that reciprocation. It's like, okay, well, what? Like,
Speaker:what's the point? Yeah, I agree with that. That's why I
Speaker:wanted to talk about, like, the new thing that I'm doing. Yeah, we'll get there.
Speaker:We're gonna get there. Let's build up. I.
Speaker:Yeah, I totally agree with that. I think a lot of times, as you get
Speaker:older and you get successful in your life and then you meet somebody new,
Speaker:you wonder, you know, is there an ulterior motive? And I think that's always
Speaker:based on, like, previous trauma. Right? Because you're like, I'm not gonna let this happen
Speaker:to me again. Right. But then you over dissect. So it's
Speaker:like, I would say I'm a lot like Alana. Like a slow warmer. Like,
Speaker:yeah, Gotta figure people out first. You know, maybe I'll do a lunch
Speaker:or two, you know, see if there's some business,
Speaker:you know, maybe something. Do they want to do business or do they just
Speaker:want to, like, hang on at one of my events and pretend to help me?
Speaker:Yeah, I get plenty of those offers, right?
Speaker:Yeah, it's interesting. Like, so, like, how do you, like. I know
Speaker:we met, so we met in a casino in Vegas event.
Speaker:Such a fun night. That was. That was a fun night. And,
Speaker:you know, we met over dinner and bonded and, like, chatted for hours.
Speaker:And, like, that's how our friendship started. And I'm thinking about, like, a couple of
Speaker:my friends I have here where I live, like, adult friends. I met because they're
Speaker:my neighbors or through the business community. But how do you. How do you. How
Speaker:have you met, besides me and my sister, like, other adult friends
Speaker:in this, you know, in this era that you
Speaker:trust, like, what are some of those things where, you know, that they're like genuine
Speaker:people and they're not going. To betray you, you know, I met my friend
Speaker:Dana. Would you love her just honestly through Facebook? She was
Speaker:posting the most hilarious things and just, like,
Speaker:going on these rants and I thought it was hilarious. And I was like, I
Speaker:need to meet this woman. And we hit it off. And she's so
Speaker:amazing and genuine and you can just tell, you know, Dana. Will
Speaker:get on this podcast eventually. She's in the Skin Deep Stories book with you.
Speaker:I know. I can't wait to see her in New York. I was actually trying
Speaker:to coordinate with her. I sent her my flight and everything, too,
Speaker:to see if she wanted to fly there or back with me, she's. And she's
Speaker:genuine. Like, she's a genuine person. And you can tell that by just
Speaker:meeting her. Yeah. Yeah, that
Speaker:was instant for me. I'm very. I'm very intuitive. As, you know, most
Speaker:people know this about me, and I can get a read on people.
Speaker:And so I usually. Every 10
Speaker:people, 20 people I meet, I may be.
Speaker:To get my phone number. Everything else is like email.
Speaker:You know, I can get a read on people. I was actually at
Speaker:a lunch with a
Speaker:girlfriend of mine. I'm not going to say her name on this podcast. And she
Speaker:was wanting to introduce me to somebody that she was going to start doing business
Speaker:with. And she was like, you got to meet him. He's great. He
Speaker:owns all this stuff. Like, I don't want to even say what. What market it's
Speaker:in because I don't want people to put two and two. But
Speaker:I left that lunch and I text her and I said, shit's gonna go bad
Speaker:with this guy. I said, I could tell he cheats on his wife.
Speaker:Here we are a year and a half later, and I was right. And no
Speaker:idea how I disfigured. But I'm very intuitive, and I get a good read on
Speaker:people, so I feel that that helps me a lot. And,
Speaker:you know, one of my good girlfriends told me, you have to put people
Speaker:in compartments. Like, you have associates, you have business
Speaker:associates. You have actual friends. You have, you
Speaker:know, your employees. And so I have been, over the past
Speaker:several years, really readjusting the way I talk about
Speaker:people. Like, because if you casually say, this is my
Speaker:friend, and then you introduce them,
Speaker:and then something goes wrong, then it comes back on you. Right. So I'm.
Speaker:That's why I like that. Sorry, Baron is barking. Let me go grab him.
Speaker:Yes, baby. Come here. I'll put you back
Speaker:in your bed, honey. For those of you who can't see, Heather is currently
Speaker:going to grab her dog, barrett. He.
Speaker:He's 18 and he's a little senior, so he needs help
Speaker:getting back in the bed. But so, you know, compartmentalizing
Speaker:people. And that's why, like, a lot of people with my brand coaching, they know
Speaker:when I refer them people, they're completely vetted. Business contacts.
Speaker:Yeah. I don't really send, you know, friends to
Speaker:people because I don't want to be responsible if something goes bad. Right.
Speaker:So putting people in compartments is a really good
Speaker:way for me to get. Not
Speaker:have a lot of things happen, you know? Yeah.
Speaker:I mean. Oh, she. It's not meeting out for dinner. You know, it's. It's none
Speaker:of that, because then it becomes too personal. Yeah. And so, like, for those of
Speaker:you who don't know, like, Heather is, like, uber connected.
Speaker:And, like, she's been on Bravo and reality TV before. She's.
Speaker:She's just. She's hyper connected because of the work she does with gifting lounges
Speaker:and probably other things I don't know about one day in 10 years, I'll
Speaker:probably learn everything. But I can't imagine the amount
Speaker:of people who come to you and see you with these friends, this Rolodex
Speaker:of friends. They're actually your friends trying to take
Speaker:advantage of you and these connections. Worse
Speaker:always. How do you protect yourself from that?
Speaker:Honestly, I just don't allow it to happen. I mean,
Speaker:you know, there's a lot of people that are like, oh, I. I
Speaker:want to come and help at my events, or, oh, I
Speaker:saw this person was at your event. Can you connect me? The answer is just
Speaker:no. No. Unless you're a client of mine,
Speaker:it's not gonna happen. And I have to. And I've done it before, and I'll
Speaker:never do it again because it's that you give an inch, take a mile thing.
Speaker:Right. Like, I connect them and then they're like, well, they didn't email me back.
Speaker:They're not calling me back. And then they're calling me because they're not calling back,
Speaker:and I ain't got time for that. Yeah, well, we were in, like, that, where
Speaker:one of your connections was brought into something and it became a mess.
Speaker:Yes. Yes. And it's shitty when that happens.
Speaker:And there's money on the line and reputation on the line, and
Speaker:thank God. That was none of our fault. That was none of our fault. No,
Speaker:but we were happy to peace out. Can you think of
Speaker:like. Like a. Like,
Speaker:maybe doesn't have to be a recent betrayal, but a betrayal in your business
Speaker:life? Like, yeah, I mean, like a friend. Like,
Speaker:let's. Like, I'd love to just, like, for you, like, just maybe
Speaker:share a story of a betrayal. There's.
Speaker:There's so many levels of betrayal. Right. But there's.
Speaker:This is what I want everybody to realize. It's just like that
Speaker:Instagram post. They knew what they were doing. Right.
Speaker:So recently I got this phone call
Speaker:from somebody's publicist, an
Speaker:actress that was at the event, and
Speaker:apparently somebody who I know who does pr,
Speaker:that was not at my event, but I've sent
Speaker:her business. She sent me business, you
Speaker:know, thought she was cool. She started
Speaker:DMing every single person that was
Speaker:tagged in, every photo
Speaker:from my event, offering her PR services and throwing my name out there
Speaker:so it looked like I was having her do that.
Speaker:So I had to send her a message. And I was like, you can't do
Speaker:this. And. And. And I was. I wouldn't
Speaker:say I was super nice about it, but it's like, you knew what you were
Speaker:doing. Yeah. Like, don't do that. That's like
Speaker:me going to somebody else's
Speaker:list from a gifting lounge and just, like, going after other people
Speaker:or talking about that one and saying, mine's better. Like, that's just bad
Speaker:business. Yeah. Like, why do you do that? You know? And I was just
Speaker:like, that's just. To me, that was like a betrayal. Now
Speaker:the whole. You know, I thought I could trust this person.
Speaker:I won't be doing her any more favors.
Speaker:Yeah. Any more favors. Because you just don't do that.
Speaker:That's just. It's, you know. Yeah. It's just
Speaker:always something or like, you know, I let somebody
Speaker:come to the lounge, and then they're, you know,
Speaker:sending people to another lounge. I'm like, why? I'm
Speaker:like, yeah, like, they're taking advantage of your generosity. Yeah. Because.
Speaker:Yeah, because they're gonna make money off of it or something. I'm just like, it's
Speaker:just rude and it's bad behavior, and I just don't play that way.
Speaker:That's okay. You're not invited anymore. Hope you enjoyed it. You know,
Speaker:that's shitty. It's just. I mean, I even had.
Speaker:Girl. I even had an escort. One of the escorts
Speaker:at my last event. She was undercover for another lounge.
Speaker:Really? Wow.
Speaker:So an escort. Not, like, out there. An escort for Heather
Speaker:is someone who. Like, literally walks the
Speaker:SLEB handlers is what I should. Instead of
Speaker:escorts. Yeah, no, we're not doing that kind of business. But.
Speaker:But, yeah, so, yeah, she was undercover for another lounge. I was like,
Speaker:this is so, like, bad. Like, why don't you guys just go get your own
Speaker:brands? Get your own, like, do your own work. Yeah.
Speaker:To me, it doesn't bother me if somebody does my lounge and five other
Speaker:lounges. It doesn't matter. You know, they're going to pick what works best for their
Speaker:business. Force anybody to only do my lounge.
Speaker:I can't force, like, just like, Google can't force a business to only
Speaker:advertise on Google. Right. How it works.
Speaker:So all of these things that people do are just laughable to me, you
Speaker:know? Yeah. So that's like. That's yeah, it's interesting
Speaker:because it's like, and I think also like, the, like, the longer the friendship
Speaker:is and a betrayal happens, the deeper it is.
Speaker:Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Oh, I mean, like on
Speaker:a non business front, like, I had a situation due to political
Speaker:differences, there was a big betrayal and like, I guess a boundary cross
Speaker:with someone who was a good friend of mine. That's one thing that I don't
Speaker:understand. I have so many friends. We all have
Speaker:completely different views on so many different things.
Speaker:I, I, I, I, I don't understand. I,
Speaker:I don't care what anybody's political beliefs are. It doesn't
Speaker:affect my life. Right. You can come over here wearing a
Speaker:whatever, whoever shirt. I don't care. Yeah, I wouldn't, I
Speaker:would be like, some people are so crazy. They're like, you can't wear that shirt.
Speaker:I'd just be like, oh my God. Yeah, I mean like, with like, what. Do
Speaker:you want to eat? You know, it is interesting. Like, I mean,
Speaker:being Jewish, that's way too far. Well, being Jewish
Speaker:over the last few years, it's definitely changed some friendships
Speaker:in my life. Really? Yeah.
Speaker:And I feel like, I think maybe betrayal is part of it. But
Speaker:like when the war,
Speaker:this version of the war started, there are people in my life
Speaker:who maybe I'm the only Jewish person they know, but they weren't giving me the
Speaker:proper space to grieve and
Speaker:were not believing all the
Speaker:facts of what happened. I've had that happen to me. Yeah.
Speaker:And, yeah. And so, like, I've lost, I lost a few friends for
Speaker:sure. Like, who I've asked to respect my boundaries
Speaker:and didn't. So it's interesting because like, you just
Speaker:obviously, like, you can't predict a betrayal always. Like,
Speaker:you know, like, you know when someone's trying to use you for clout or whatever,
Speaker:but you don't. Sometimes you don't. Yeah.
Speaker:And like, you just never know what's going to happen. And so it's interesting because
Speaker:this was someone who was like a really good friend. And like,
Speaker:yeah, like our friendship forever changed. And if it is even
Speaker:still one, like, if this person called me and needed me, I would obviously be
Speaker:there because that's the type of person I am. And if some,
Speaker:if I needed her, well, I wouldn't ask her because I have other friends who
Speaker:would be there for me. You know what I mean? That's where you and I
Speaker:differ. Yeah. Like, once I'm done with somebody, like, I don't want to know
Speaker:anything about their life, anything. I don't want anybody done
Speaker:blocked me and they needed something, I would be like, you need to call
Speaker:somebody else. So wash my
Speaker:hands a bit. Because I have so many amazing things going on in
Speaker:my life and in my business, and I have two amazing dogs, and I
Speaker:can work from home and I can do whatever I want, and I don't need
Speaker:any. Any drama interfering with that type of. Type of
Speaker:my life. I like the way I built my life, you know? You know, I
Speaker:actually was. So I was just at a yoga retreat and I was talking to
Speaker:someone there about, like, my rule in life right now when it
Speaker:comes to, like, food,
Speaker:activities, people, my rule is only to enhance,
Speaker:never to escape. And my number one goal in life right now is peace.
Speaker:So if you're disrupting that, no, thank you. So it's about, like, does
Speaker:this bring me peace or is it taking away from my peace? Is this enhancing
Speaker:my life or making it not awesome? No, I agree.
Speaker:And. And yeah. And so I think, like, now as an adult,
Speaker:I mean, we've been adults for a while, but, like,
Speaker:how are you making friends? We're so young. I know. I
Speaker:mean, you're aging backwards, but. But, like,
Speaker:how are we making friends? Like, I make friends, so in the business community,
Speaker:locally, I have friends. I have a lot of adult friends from my life that
Speaker:are forever friends, but they don't necessarily live here. So I have a solid little
Speaker:crew here where I live. I have my friends that I met,
Speaker:you know, through business. But you, like, for example, someone like you. I have this
Speaker:whole other group that I met through, like, my baby Bathwater Institute
Speaker:mastermind. And we all meet a few times a year, too, by the
Speaker:way. I need to make. But how. How are we making
Speaker:friends these days? That's the thing. How
Speaker:are we meeting quality people? I feel like the only way
Speaker:that you're meeting really quality people is by when you're in your
Speaker:40s, late 30s, 40s and up is
Speaker:activity groups, running clubs, or, like,
Speaker:you know, church or, you know, wherever
Speaker:you go, you know, to worship, you
Speaker:know, maybe. I don't know. Is there still a. A chess club? I don't know.
Speaker:You know what I mean? I don't know. You know what I mean? I don't
Speaker:do any. Any clubs. So, I
Speaker:mean, I met some cool people at the dog park where be friends, know,
Speaker:but we do have each other's numbers and I recommended, like, good dogs
Speaker:and groomers, vice versa, you know,
Speaker:but yeah, I mean, where do you meet people? And I think I may have
Speaker:solved that problem. Oh, Tell me more.
Speaker:So my friend Lisa, she's an intuitive. She
Speaker:has a Sunshine Secret OC podcast where
Speaker:she does readings. You should go on. Well, I'm going to be in LA in
Speaker:November, so maybe I should. I'll send you a text with
Speaker:her when we get off this. Yeah, you should go on. She's actually. When are
Speaker:you going to be in la? Alana and I are going to be at End
Speaker:well, which is a grief conference. I'm going to be in LA probably November
Speaker:17th for the week. I think she's doing
Speaker:la on the 11th and 12th, but
Speaker:you guys can work it out because she's going to be a text.
Speaker:Yeah, come back. So
Speaker:Lisa's intuitive. I met her through a book that I'm
Speaker:in. It's her book that she co published with this lady Cam.
Speaker:It's all about positivity. And we immediately hit it
Speaker:off. She's one of those people that you can tell is genuine. Like this
Speaker:just like a Dana, you know, like we met and I was like getting
Speaker:ready for my event. I'm on the phone and I'm like, oh my God, I'm
Speaker:sorry, I just got to get this done. And she's like, how can I help
Speaker:you? What do you need? Immediately comes out, helps
Speaker:with the front desk. Helps, you know, just doesn't really know me that
Speaker:well, you know. And I'm like, okay. So she's like in the
Speaker:Dana immediate category, like of a friend,
Speaker:right? I'm like. So our friendship has grown
Speaker:over, you know, over the last year and a half or so
Speaker:since my first Emmys event. So it's been a while and
Speaker:we have decided to. We're both into
Speaker:manifesting. Well, I'm teaching her more about
Speaker:manifesting, but she's an intuitive. I'm into manifesting. And we've
Speaker:had these conversations over and over for several
Speaker:months about betrayal friends. Like,
Speaker:how do you meet people? Like what. What's. We need like a real
Speaker:sisterhood. Like somebody that's like like minded people.
Speaker:So we decided to start Can't Manifest. And
Speaker:it is a three. The first one is two night.
Speaker:Two nights, two full days. Mini retreat
Speaker:in Malibu. We're gonna be doing money manifesting class with
Speaker:me because everybody knows I'm the bomb at that. We're
Speaker:going to be doing. I just added
Speaker:something really cool for Thursday morning. Sound healing,
Speaker:yoga, Different. Different classes,
Speaker:all kinds of cool stuff. We're doing the itinerary. We're going there on Friday.
Speaker:So I'm excited for that. All the foods included. We're doing it
Speaker:Calamigos and Malibu, which is like the most
Speaker:magical place and I like that place. And people can
Speaker:stay there if they want. It's a little pricey, but there's so many really good
Speaker:priced hotels around that are 14 minute uber so don't
Speaker:necessarily have to stay there. And
Speaker:the food is phenomenal, the property is phenomenal. I've done so many
Speaker:solo birthdays there with Baron and I've just.
Speaker:Yeah, I have. I've been like after another like breakup
Speaker:or just like being by myself or like not.
Speaker:I don't want to go out and like party on my birthday anymore. Like I'm
Speaker:just not that person. So I and
Speaker:Baron birthday is a day after mine, so we've done a lot of long
Speaker:birthday weekends there and I've always come back rejuvenated
Speaker:and like a new sense of like,
Speaker:I don't know, like I'm on the right track or I feel like, okay, I
Speaker:did my journaling here all weekend and now I'm like, okay, like I have a
Speaker:new sense of like this, of what I'm doing or whatever it may
Speaker:be for, for me at that point. But yeah, so we
Speaker:started it. Our first one's January 14th. We're super excited.
Speaker:Invitation only for the first one. But we, we're kind of
Speaker:modeling it after and I'm glad you finally watched it. The movie Troop
Speaker:Beverly Hills. So good. So we're gonna have
Speaker:like ours inaugural troop 888.
Speaker:We're gonna have patches and we're actually having a diamond expert
Speaker:come to do the diamond thing. Just like the movie.
Speaker:We're gonna curate all the food, I've got toast, beverages,
Speaker:doing all the non alcoholic sparkling, which I'm drinking some right now.
Speaker:It's so freaking good. And yeah,
Speaker:gift bags. A lot of sponsors are putting stuff in the gift bags. I know
Speaker:you thought about maybe putting the journal in there, but yeah,
Speaker:I'm really, really excited for this because this
Speaker:all came about because we were like, like I said, like how do you meet
Speaker:people? So like we want like, you know, women in their,
Speaker:you know, 30s, 40s, you know, and up to
Speaker:come. And the cool thing that I was thinking was how cool
Speaker:would it be if somebody who's 32, you know, like minded
Speaker:person comes and she can pair up with somebody like me who's
Speaker:47, 48 or a 60 year old woman who can like mentor her in her
Speaker:business or give her just advice, you know what I mean? Because
Speaker:so many women are not really helping each other right now. I'M noticing,
Speaker:you know, and they're not really banning together like they should be.
Speaker:And I think a lot of it has a lot to do with the political
Speaker:climate right now too. Yeah. So we are really excited
Speaker:for this. I mean we've only had it the link
Speaker:up for two weeks and we are
Speaker:at like where we're comfortable, the number
Speaker:we're comfortable hosting, we're already halfway there. That's
Speaker:amazing. I know. I think that's amazing because one, I grew up going to
Speaker:summer camp. I love summer camp. Troop Beverly Hills is amazing. I know it's your
Speaker:favorite movie. It is so good. So I see why it's your favorite movie.
Speaker:And you look like that little girl so much. That's funny.
Speaker:And also, so the yoga retreat I was just on felt like
Speaker:adult summer camp. It was all girls. It felt like summer camp.
Speaker:Yes. Like vibes, fun stuff. Just like something
Speaker:about like connecting. It's not just about like, obviously you guys are
Speaker:curating this first group. Maybe I'll put the link in the show notes so if
Speaker:someone's interested you could reach out and be like, hey, I heard
Speaker:you on Blair's podcast and you could chat. We're doing the next one in
Speaker:May. So I think like what's really cool is like when you're in this
Speaker:type of container, like when I was at this yoga retreat, you're meeting people
Speaker:that you may never come across in regular life who are like
Speaker:minded. And what is really
Speaker:special about that is like you build these like super hyper fast connections
Speaker:and there's always opportunity for friendship,
Speaker:collaboration, learning for each other. What can you do to help other people?
Speaker:And so I'm, I mean like I don't know if I'm going to be able
Speaker:to be at this one. But like for me this is my vibe because
Speaker:where do you meet like minded people? That's why I joined Baby Bathwater
Speaker:Institute. That is why I like travel to Montana a couple times
Speaker:a year to see my friends. Like, and so for this I
Speaker:think it's amazing that you took something and inspired you and collaborated with
Speaker:Lisa and creating something that's
Speaker:being the first ones being curated. But like minded women and
Speaker:teaching them these tools that are only going to enhance their
Speaker:life. And what's really cool is that these are shared bonds. I know that I
Speaker:have friends from summer camp from when I was 8, 9 that I'm still friends
Speaker:with. Oh, I love that I have a friend that I, I have one
Speaker:friend that I've known since six years old. Yeah. And the rest of My friends
Speaker:are all college. Yeah. My friend shout out to Jordana. So Jordana and I
Speaker:met when we were eight. We went to summer camp together for five days.
Speaker:Jordana. Yeah, Jord. We ended up going to the same high school,
Speaker:but so not till grade 10. But I met her when I was eight and
Speaker:every summer we went to summer camp together for like 10 plus years.
Speaker:But we became friends at summer camp and we lived in different parts of Winnipeg
Speaker:and. But like there's something about camp. Whether it's two
Speaker:days or two months, there's something really special that
Speaker:happens there. So congratulations on creating camp Manifest. And
Speaker:like, I think it's super epic. I mean each, each
Speaker:true. Each one is gonna have a new troop number. We're doing like custom
Speaker:camp merch. So like everybody who comes to the first one's gonna get all the
Speaker:troop 888 stuff. No one else is gonna have that. And then
Speaker:troop and the next one's 11. 11. And then it'll go up from there.
Speaker:It's. We've, we're have hats, water bottles, like manifesting
Speaker:candles. For my money manifesting class. I have
Speaker:like literally like seven workbooks. Summer
Speaker:take home. Just like so you know, all the candle colors and the herbs
Speaker:and all these things, not just from manifesting money. I did these really
Speaker:thick workbooks when my team's working on them now, but for just
Speaker:clarity or you know, you're feeling a little
Speaker:tired and you need some creative spark, then use this herb with this
Speaker:candle and just put it on your desk, you know, and we're,
Speaker:we're going to talk about so much stuff. And Lisa's going to do readings with
Speaker:everyone, which is going to be cool. That's amazing.
Speaker:He rented out this, the whole Birchwood room. It's gorgeous.
Speaker:The dining area outside the room has all these trees that kind of like
Speaker:hang over. So it's just, it's just so
Speaker:cool. Sounds magical. Yeah, I'm really excited.
Speaker:It'll be really, really good. Really excited.
Speaker:The, the women that are coming so far are just
Speaker:absolutely phenomenal. And some of them are
Speaker:bringing friends. And I know if they're phenomenal, their friends will be phenomenal. You know,
Speaker:all like minded people and you know, like I said,
Speaker:we're comp. We really want to keep this first one small. And obviously I was,
Speaker:you know, like I said earlier, I reach out to all my sponsors to put
Speaker:stuff in the gift bags. So the gift bags are going to be pretty sick.
Speaker:I love that. That's amazing. Do you know eight's my Lucky number. And I'm born
Speaker:the eighth of the eighth. And our goal with the Global Resilience
Speaker:Project is to empower 888 million people to
Speaker:strengthen their resilience muscle by August 2030.
Speaker:Ah, I love that. Yeah, so I love that, I love
Speaker:that there's that synchronicity. I'm hoping you can make it, but I'm also hoping
Speaker:that you get that other big thing, because that's so
Speaker:epic. And I can't wait. Fingers crossed. God, when
Speaker:you text me, I was. Like, I was like, well,
Speaker:it'll happen hopefully this year. And if this year doesn't happen with that, then another
Speaker:time. But I believe everything that's meant to happen
Speaker:will happen and that you can. Put it in contact with them. So if it
Speaker:doesn't work out for this year, logistic wise, you're already on their radar. And
Speaker:that's what I always tell my clients too. Like, lean into it. Even
Speaker:like when you're manifesting and don't. You can't be in scarcity mode.
Speaker:You can't be in freak out mode. You gotta just go, whatever happens,
Speaker:happens. Right? Yeah, no, definitely. So
Speaker:as we wrap up, I am. Do you want to
Speaker:share a piece of advice for someone who's maybe feeling like they are
Speaker:in a betrayal right now? Like they're in that thick of it where that, like,
Speaker:you know, they feel sick in their stomach and they, they see it unraveling.
Speaker:Say your piece. You know, don't do
Speaker:it meanly. Like one of the thing that I just had happen to me.
Speaker:I sent three sentences, didn't need to say anymore.
Speaker:I wasn't mean. I said how I felt and what
Speaker:I knew had happened. And then I blocked
Speaker:because you don't need to go back and forth arguing. That's not
Speaker:going to serve you in any kind of way. And
Speaker:definitely don't talk about it to anybody else because that. The telephone
Speaker:game is not fun and. It'S like a bad use of your energy.
Speaker:Yes, I tell my best friend Charlie everything,
Speaker:but other than him, he doesn't know.
Speaker:No one else knows anything about the situation with her,
Speaker:what she did, how awful it was.
Speaker:Because I don't need the telephone game with mutual people that we know.
Speaker:And then next thing you know, I'm saying something that I didn't
Speaker:say and I don't need that going around about me. So keep
Speaker:it to yourself. Say your couple sentences if you even want
Speaker:to do that. I prefer to just block nine times out of 10. But in
Speaker:this certain situation, I had to let her know that I was aware of the
Speaker:situation and that I wasn't stupid, and that was
Speaker:basically what I said, and then just blocked
Speaker:and then just move on because they lost.
Speaker:They lost. They are. Nine times out of ten,
Speaker:they're. They're losing more by losing you than they would ever
Speaker:gain by whatever they got for that five to 10 minutes.
Speaker:Yeah, that's great advice. I
Speaker:appreciate that. And, you know, I love that, like, I can always come to you
Speaker:for advice and that we got to share a sliver of that with our audience
Speaker:and that you are going to be featured in Resilient AF Skin
Speaker:Deep Stories, which is out in December. Your tattoo. I can't wait for everyone to
Speaker:read that story. Booked. And then you're gonna
Speaker:also be in Resilient AF Stories of Resilience, Volume 3, and we're
Speaker:gonna be talking about a whole nother thing. So you're gonna come back on the
Speaker:show, and we're gonna talk about that situation in the new year. But
Speaker:I think what you're doing is amazing. Creating this safe space for not only
Speaker:us to create genuine friendships, but to manifest the life that we
Speaker:deserve. And so thank you for creating that and for
Speaker:coming on and sharing your journey with
Speaker:betrayal. Thank you for having me.
Speaker:And thank you to everyone who tuned in for another episode of Resilient af.
Speaker:Remember, you are not alone. You don't have to let betrayal knock you down.
Speaker:Say your piece and block. Move on. There are people out there who
Speaker:deserve you and your time, and it's okay to not be
Speaker:okay. Let us be that lighthouse in the storm. And just remember,
Speaker:you are Resilient af. Thank you.
