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Hello, hello, and welcome to the Borealis
Unknown:experience. I'm your host Aurora, and I'm very excited to
Unknown:have Robert Riopel here with me today. He is one of the biggest
Unknown:empowerment coaches here in Canada, I would say. And we will
Unknown:dig a little deeper when it comes to his story and to find
Unknown:out what he had to go through in order to become the leader, hard
Unknown:driven leader that he is today. Thank you so much for making the
Unknown:time and for being here with us today. Robert, share with us
Unknown:where you're coming from, and yeah, how your paths look like?
Unknown:Well, you know, I feel so blessed to be here are in and
Unknown:being that you're an Albertan just like me, you're gonna
Unknown:understand probably, there's that saying redneck. Growing up,
Unknown:I was taught that here's the box, don't think outside the
Unknown:box. In fact, don't question the box. And when it came to work,
Unknown:it was if you are going to work, you support your family, even if
Unknown:you hate the job, you do whatever it takes. And so, and
Unknown:you work hard, and you stay loyal. And that's what I started
Unknown:doing. And by the time I was 21, I had actually worked for three
Unknown:different companies and been laid off on all three occasions
Unknown:because they were shutting down. And the third company really hit
Unknown:me hard because I had been working for that company since
Unknown:they opened two and a half years earlier, a factory in Red Deer,
Unknown:Alberta. And I had started working in the factory and
Unknown:started making my way up to where i is now inside sales. And
Unknown:I envision myself being a general manager, eventually in
Unknown:my own factory with them working for 40 plus years. So imagine
Unknown:the shock when I come into work on a Monday and and the general
Unknown:manager calls me in an office goes, oh, I want to let you know
Unknown:we're shutting the factory down. You were laid off as of last
Unknown:Friday. And I just come from a week holiday. I'm like, you
Unknown:couldn't tell me that before I left on holidays. And he's like
Unknown:we didn't know. And I and that really, you know, and you know,
Unknown:Alberta we go through our oil booms. We go through our oil
Unknown:busts, and 1989. We are in the middle of an oil bust and I'm
Unknown:going out and looking for that job. I'm still a newlywed, I
Unknown:want to take care of my family. And I can't I'm looking for like
Unknown:three months, I can't find a job. So I decide to do something
Unknown:to take care of my family totally fine. And I started
Unknown:delivering pizzas for Domino's Pizza. And when I started doing
Unknown:that, because of my work ethic, I started working hard and I
Unknown:started actually making more money than I did my real job
Unknown:because I was working a lot of hours. And I ended up becoming a
Unknown:manager and my wife becomes my assistant. And we go right back
Unknown:into our programming working hard. We started working open to
Unknown:close seven days a week. And we actually moved from Red Deer to
Unknown:Calgary because my franchisee sold a store and Red Deer bought
Unknown:two in Calgary. And that's where I wasn't that I was planning on
Unknown:becoming manager. But I'm going, huh? Being a manager is more
Unknown:secure than being a driver. And there's a guaranteed income. And
Unknown:I said, Look, you have two stores now can I manage one of
Unknown:all and we talked for a couple hours. And again because of my
Unknown:work ethic. Two hours later, he went Yep, you'll move in two
Unknown:weeks. And what's interesting, I'd been a driver, I'd done a
Unknown:little bit of making pizzas. I said, okay, if I'm leaving in
Unknown:two weeks, can I get some experience in store? He goes,
Unknown:No, you'll have plenty of time to get experience when you get
Unknown:there.
Unknown:I got a hold of an aunt and uncle and asked if I could live
Unknown:with them until we could find a place to live there and move on.
Unknown:And so I did that because I am a whatever it takes kind of
Unknown:person. And so I started managing my wife became my
Unknown:assistant, we started managing seven days a week open to close.
Unknown:And we were doing that for a year and a half when the fear
Unknown:came back in again. Because my franchisee comes to us and says
Unknown:I want you to know, I'm getting out of Domino's Pizza time
Unknown:selling the stores. And we'd watched enough stores in Calgary
Unknown:gets sold that we knew as soon as the store sold, the managers
Unknown:were let go because the new owner wanted to bring in their
Unknown:own team. And my theory was okay, we better start finding
Unknown:some of the other franchisees and finding another job. And my
Unknown:wife looks at me and she goes, Why would we do that? Why don't
Unknown:we just buy the store? And I looked at her I'm like, because
Unknown:we don't have any money. That's what we don't buy the store like
Unknown:Hello, and Aurora I am very blessed because my wife and I we
Unknown:met when we were 13 we started dating, we were 16. We got
Unknown:married when we were 19.
Unknown:And so we you know, because I was in the box thinker, my wife
Unknown:her whole perspective is there is no box, you know, why are we
Unknown:being held to something like that? And so we started trying
Unknown:to figure out how do you buy a business if you don't have
Unknown:money? And we made a lot of mistakes. I will tell you a lot
Unknown:of mistakes. It gives an example one gentleman he goes
Unknown:Well, I've got investors, and I guarantee I'll find you
Unknown:investor, my upfront fee is $1,000. The moment we paid them
Unknown:the $1,000 fee, all sudden, magically, none of his investors
Unknown:want to invest in us. And it was a non refundable. $1,000, right.
Unknown:And every every turn when we got shut down, I wanted to quit. But
Unknown:thank goodness, my wife would not let us. Because if you knew
Unknown:me when I was younger, I was very limited thinker. There was
Unknown:a lot of things I didn't believe in, because I didn't know. And
Unknown:if I didn't know, it can't be true, I was very close minded
Unknown:that way. And she kept pushing. And I'll openly admit, I would
Unknown:not be doing what I do today, if it wasn't for her, because one
Unknown:of the gifts she gives me if she's not willing to let me play
Unknown:smaller than I am, even if it means kicking me in the ass,
Unknown:which she's had to do a number of times.
Unknown:Right. And of course, I'm always open to it. I'm always like,
Unknown:Good idea, honey.
Unknown:We've opened, but she's not willing. And now it's a gift I
Unknown:give her as well. And so we made a lot of mistakes. But we
Unknown:learned something every time. And after about four months, we
Unknown:had the confidence now where we went to our bank, and we
Unknown:couldn't get a
Unknown:time to sit down with the business manager. Because back
Unknown:then, especially here in Alberta, you had to know someone
Unknown:who knew someone to talk to a bank business manager. But
Unknown:because we had great relationships with our bank
Unknown:manager, she'd helped us buy her house. She loved our work ethic.
Unknown:We're sitting in our office to one day, and she says how's it
Unknown:going with the store? And we're like, it's not going good? And
Unknown:she says why not? We said well, we can't find a loan. And she's
Unknown:well have you talked to grant the business manager, no tank
Unknown:and appointment with him. Now literally and for your audience,
Unknown:keep great relationships with your banks. And that don't be
Unknown:the customer that the only ever hear from you if there's a
Unknown:problem. Because that day she literally stood up, took us by
Unknown:the hand and said Come with me. She walked us across the bank
Unknown:knocked on his door and said, Grant, this is Robert and
Unknown:Roxanne real pill to hard working kids that run a Domino's
Unknown:Pizza and they want to buy it. Take care of them. Now, had we
Unknown:been able to see him four months earlier, we probably would have
Unknown:bombed because we didn't know what to say. I'm a big believer
Unknown:Aurora that everything happens for a reason. And I'm gonna ask
Unknown:you a question. Have you heard that statement before? That
Unknown:everything happens for a reason?
Unknown:Do you believe that statement? Oh, yeah. Did you know it's not
Unknown:the complete statement? Hmm. Tell me more. Yeah. See, this is
Unknown:where people get stuck on this everything else for reason. The
Unknown:complete statement is actually everything happened for a
Unknown:reason. And that reason is there to serve Me.
Unknown:And see when you understand the full statement, it puts you into
Unknown:curiosity mode. Yes. The, to me, some of the greatest lessons
Unknown:come from the biggest struggles we've gone through. And
Unknown:everything I've gone through I know asked that question. And
Unknown:it's not like you get the answer right away. Like as an example.
Unknown:Have you ever had something happen in a couple years later
Unknown:on since like, that's why that happened all that time ago.
Unknown:Yeah, because, but when you're in that curiosity mode, if
Unknown:you're looking for lesson, then you can take any situation,
Unknown:learn something from it, to take your life one step further
Unknown:forward. I'm a huge believer in that. So had we seen him four
Unknown:months earlier, we would have blown it because we wouldn't
Unknown:have known what to say. But because of the struggles we'd
Unknown:gone through and learning what to say what not to, we sat down
Unknown:and had a conversation. And he ended up not giving us the
Unknown:financing for a store. He gave us 100% financing for both the
Unknown:stores. My franchisee had for sale. And we became franchisees.
Unknown:And I was like, Oh, we've got me now. But unfortunately, we knew
Unknown:how to run a Domino's Pizza. But we didn't know how to run a
Unknown:business. And there's a huge difference between the two.
Unknown:Thank goodness ignorance was bliss, because for the first two
Unknown:years, our whole running attitude was if there's money in
Unknown:the bank, we're doing okay. But of course we weren't and we
Unknown:didn't even know that. But our upbringings both coming from
Unknown:poor families. We knew how to make it work, even when times
Unknown:are tough. And also a couple years later, when CRA, you know
Unknown:Canada Revenue Agency is knocking on the door going,
Unknown:hello, you're in business, we haven't seen any tax returns. We
Unknown:had to get caught up. We thought we couldn't afford an account.
Unknown:And here we are working seven days a week 7080 plus hours a
Unknown:week thinking we'll do our own accounting bad mistake. Like
Unknown:today in business before I buy or start a business. I have my
Unknown:accounting team on the phone with me so we know what we're
Unknown:doing. So we have it all set up from the beginning, because a
Unknown:great accountant will save you way more money than they ever
Unknown:ever cost you. But I didn't know that at 23 Young and Eagle
Unknown:right. So when we finally got caught up our accounts actually
Unknown:looked at us and they said how did you
Unknown:Guy survived the last couple of years. See, we ate a lot of
Unknown:pizza at the store. We slept at the store a lot, actually,
Unknown:because I like to I'm an entrepreneur at heart. We had
Unknown:every restaurant in the area on exchange, I need food tonight,
Unknown:would you guys like to exchange pizza for Chinese food or
Unknown:chicken or burgers. So we were eating a lot of food at the
Unknown:store, not a healthy way to do it. But we made it work. And
Unknown:once we got the numbers and start figuring it out, we
Unknown:started doing pretty well. But because again, of our
Unknown:upbringing, our programming, we started spending more money than
Unknown:we're earning.
Unknown:And I know you've probably never heard of anybody that's ever
Unknown:done that before, right?
Unknown:No, no, not at all. I'm like, yeah, and by the time we were
Unknown:franchisees, for eight years, we're over $150,000 in debt,
Unknown:personally, and going down quickly. And that's actually
Unknown:when we were introduced to personal development. And, you
Unknown:know, we'd been someone who tried to introduce us years
Unknown:earlier, but it was like, I don't need that stuff. I'm good.
Unknown:I'm, you know, again, that eagle, but out of necessity, we
Unknown:end up going to a 3d training, where they taught us why we were
Unknown:in debt, like how we handled our money, why, where it came from
Unknown:the understanding, but more importantly, it took taught us
Unknown:to take ownership to actually take ownership, we were the ones
Unknown:responsible for the debt, quit blaming other people. And that
Unknown:lesson there, I've used in other areas of life as well, because
Unknown:I've noticed a moment I play the victim, where it's someone
Unknown:else's fault, I'm giving all my power away. But if I actually
Unknown:just own it, then I can make a correction, I can make an
Unknown:adjustment. And so then we also learn some specific skills that
Unknown:if we didn't want to have debt, how to get out of it. And I
Unknown:won't say I'm brilliant, and that we had it all planned to do
Unknown:what we did next, it came from necessity, or $150,000 in debt.
Unknown:And the statistic in North America is only 3% of people
Unknown:will ever use new information that they receive only 3%. And
Unknown:when we left that training, because we were so stressed out
Unknown:financially, I've never experienced stress, like
Unknown:financial stress before. And it becomes an all consuming, not
Unknown:wanting to answer the phone, because you know, it's someone
Unknown:trying to collect the debt. And it just it you know, when that's
Unknown:running your life, it's it mentally, emotionally,
Unknown:spiritually, and physically, it drains me. And so we knew we had
Unknown:to take action. And so out of necessity, we decided we're
Unknown:going to take what we just learned, put into action, see
Unknown:what we can do. And also we were able to go from being over
Unknown:$150,000 in debt to actually retired completely financially
Unknown:free nine months later at the age of 32.
Unknown:And our minds when Wow, that worked. If this much information
Unknown:gave us that result, what would more information do and that's
Unknown:where we started just learning from as many people as we could,
Unknown:I will never quit learning now. i I'm you know, I work on my
Unknown:self awareness. I work on what holds me back what works for me,
Unknown:I even though I train around the world today, all over the place.
Unknown:I'm still a student in as many audiences as I can be in all the
Unknown:time. Because I know the moment I think I know it all. I'm done.
Unknown:Yep, I'm completely done. And so while we are learning, I found
Unknown:my passion. My passion wants to teach. And here's how the dream
Unknown:started for me Aurora, it wasn't a huge dream, like, I want to
Unknown:travel the world it was if I can help one person, one person, do
Unknown:what my wife and I had been able to do go from being in debt to
Unknown:financially free, it make it all worthwhile. And especially like
Unknown:your listeners listening, that one person you start with is
Unknown:sitting in your seat right now. Start with helping you because
Unknown:if you don't help you, you can't help others. And so, because
Unknown:we've been able to do some stuff I wanted to teach. And for the
Unknown:last 18 and a half plus years, I've been blessed now to travel
Unknown:around the world several times, and personally taught over half
Unknown:a million people how to create financial freedom in their life,
Unknown:amongst other things as well. And I'm living my passion. And
Unknown:it just I love to be able to one of the greatest feelings for me
Unknown:is when a student will find me or see me and they'll go you
Unknown:remember when you said this? Here's how it changed my life.
Unknown:And I get one arm to arm our whole body goosebumps. So that's
Unknown:kind of the back behind story of who I wasn't to get me to where
Unknown:I am today. Wow. Thank you so much for sharing all this and I
Unknown:feel on one side I learned so much. And on the other side. You
Unknown:know how so many people often say Oh yeah, that person is
Unknown:successful. They were born into a rich home and they never had
Unknown:problems. And this is why they're rich and with with my
Unknown:podcast here I'm proving that no
Unknown:We all had to struggle really hard, if not for life, to make
Unknown:it where we're at right now. And what you kept saying was,
Unknown:I remember the word work ethic. Yeah, you said, You guys had
Unknown:both great work ethic, you had an awesome partner. So you
Unknown:surrounded yourself with, even if it's just one person who
Unknown:kicks your butt who cuts through your bullshit, and who keeps
Unknown:like pushing forward, and connection with people, like you
Unknown:shared with people what your struggle was about with your
Unknown:aunt and your uncle in Calgary, and then with the lady at the
Unknown:bank, and she open up the big door for you. And then now you
Unknown:say you have a whole team of accountants, right next to you,
Unknown:right? Like it's only possible to rise as a team and great work
Unknown:ethic is, is, yeah, probably a huge must or Plus, when you want
Unknown:to reach your goals. Yeah, have to have desire to want to have a
Unknown:great life. Yeah. And you have to know you have to know that
Unknown:you deserve it, too. I feel so many people say, oh, yeah, but
Unknown:I've done mistakes in the past. And I'm not deserving and no,
Unknown:like, just push for that desire, and doors will open and mistakes
Unknown:will happen. But then new doors will open. And wow, thank you so
Unknown:much. Like I feel I'm I'm growing as I'm listening to you.
Unknown:I want to ask you now. So you are an empowerment coach today
Unknown:and a spiritual leader and so many more things. What is what
Unknown:is the number one or maybe two things that you observe? That
Unknown:keeps people in that little box like that, that keeps repeating
Unknown:all over the world? You see people from not only Canada, but
Unknown:all over the world? Do you notice like a red line that
Unknown:connects? Well,
Unknown:and that's what's interesting is, you know, until I became a
Unknown:trainer, I hadn't been outside of North America. Okay, I've
Unknown:gone on a Caribbean cruise. So you know, I traveled. But in
Unknown:2007, I went to Singapore for the first time. And one of the
Unknown:fears was, do people there think the same way as we do? Do they
Unknown:have the same things going on in their head the same crap. And it
Unknown:only took the first couple of hours of the training, I had
Unknown:6000 students in front of me for three days. And in the first two
Unknown:hours, we knew they had the same crap going on. And now I've
Unknown:experienced that all over the world. So and one of the biggest
Unknown:ones that and it's something that still plagues me a little
Unknown:bit Aurora, self doubt. Yeah, that's one of the biggest ones
Unknown:is Who am I to have this greatness. And as Marianne
Unknown:Williamson said, you don't you have greatness in you is? Who
Unknown:are you not to be great. And so people won't, but if I'm great,
Unknown:that means I'm Eagle I'm arrogant. No is owning your
Unknown:greatness with confidence, not arrogance. And so I would say,
Unknown:low self esteem and self doubt, are probably the biggest ones I
Unknown:see all over the world. And it comes from Why don't think about
Unknown:it like this. One of the things reason I wrote the my first
Unknown:book, success left a clue is my first step is Dream Big, not
Unknown:just a dream, but dream big. Because think about as a child,
Unknown:what was possible. Anything and everything was possible. I can
Unknown:be a truck driver, one day, a lawyer the next day and
Unknown:astronaut the next day, whatever I wanted to be, I could be the
Unknown:energy start to grow up. Society comes in to tell you to be
Unknown:realistic. You weren't born into the right family. You don't have
Unknown:the right education. Really, no one's done that before you and
Unknown:Olson these messages come at us. And unfortunately, and I want to
Unknown:be clear, it's not out of maliciousness. But
Unknown:unfortunately, some of the greatest things that hold us
Unknown:back are the messages we hear from our family. And it's not to
Unknown:be mean, it's to protect us. They don't want us to get hurt.
Unknown:But if you understand again, there's no such thing as a
Unknown:failure. It's only feedback. Because when something doesn't
Unknown:work, that's where the greatest lessons come from. So if you're
Unknown:never willing to try something in fear of failing, then you'll
Unknown:never get the lessons. Someone asked me a while ago they on a
Unknown:pod cast interview. They said Robert, if you could go back to
Unknown:18 year old Robert give yourself a message for the future. What
Unknown:would it be? And now what I struggled with, until my answer
Unknown:was just keeping you
Unknown:see everything I've gone through the good, the bad and the ugly
Unknown:is made me who I am today. I wouldn't change any of that.
Unknown:In 2009, I went through two back surgeries, I was over living my
Unknown:passion. And I wasn't standing properly on stage, only at home
Unknown:on average two days a month. So I ended up herniating A disc.
Unknown:And I end up getting two back surgeries, where at one point I
Unknown:was in bed at home couldn't move for over six weeks before I
Unknown:could get the first surgery. And people go, you wouldn't? You'd
Unknown:want to go through that, again, the lessons I've learned.
Unknown:You talk about humbleness, when someone actually has to wipe
Unknown:your ass, because you can't you learn to be humble very quickly.
Unknown:And so I look back and I go, No, I don't want to change anything.
Unknown:Because I am who I am today, because of
Unknown:thing. I've gone through everything. Yeah, yeah. Oh, and
Unknown:humbleness is such a huge thing.
Unknown:People can sense that right away. Like if you're not being
Unknown:humble, if you're being ego driven only, you can be as loud
Unknown:as you want, you will push people away, and they will not
Unknown:want to follow you.
Unknown:And so also think about it, because it goes back to the
Unknown:question you ask. Most people who are so arrogant, are
Unknown:overcompensating for their own self doubt. Yeah. And they're
Unknown:trying to hide it. Yeah. But see, and that's because we've
Unknown:been taught vulnerability is weakness. But no to me, and what
Unknown:I've experienced, Vall and build strength, and you're willing to
Unknown:be vulnerable and ask for help when you need it. Yeah, that's
Unknown:huge for a lot of people. Yeah. Yeah, vulnerability, and what
Unknown:I've learned the other day, fierce self compassion, to go
Unknown:for your dreams, your desires, and to take really good care of
Unknown:yourself, and to be vulnerable with other people for them to
Unknown:see you and to be able to relate and
Unknown:know, this is so precious. Thank you so much. Like, that's been
Unknown:so wonderful already. I have I have one more question. I would
Unknown:say.
Unknown:If if we think about personal development, if we think about
Unknown:your personal development, is there things that you still feel
Unknown:to this day,
Unknown:you want to learn more about like, some people have stage
Unknown:fright, and they keep pushing through? You know, some people
Unknown:have still intense fears.
Unknown:Although they're up there at the top, but they still learn to
Unknown:push through it every day. What is it with you that that you are
Unknown:still learning to this day? Well, it's exactly what it said
Unknown:is, I love to teach others. One of my specialties is to train
Unknown:trainers, and I've trained 1000s of trainers around the world.
Unknown:And my goal is to help them become more authentic and more
Unknown:connected to their audience. reason is because that's the
Unknown:journey I'm still on. You know, that old adage that which we
Unknown:need to learn the most we teach. Yeah. And so because I want to
Unknown:keep learning to be even more connected with my audience, to
Unknown:be more authentic to be me, because I believe the greatest
Unknown:gift anybody can give this planet is to be themselves.
Unknown:Yeah. And you know, it was your because the Olympics just
Unknown:finished. and Canada, you know, did I think our best showing in
Unknown:the Olympics we ever have, you're looking at an aurora,
Unknown:you're looking at a world class people pleaser right here. I'm a
Unknown:gold medalist and people pleasing gold medalist. And how
Unknown:tiring that was. Yeah, because I was trying to be someone
Unknown:different to please people. And when I went through, years ago,
Unknown:training I went through where it was three days as a student,
Unknown:where it kind of to sum it up what a monk would sit in a cave
Unknown:for 40 years to do. We went through that same energy in
Unknown:three days. And when I went through that, and that's where I
Unknown:really realized, I'm me, that's all I can be. And I started to
Unknown:own it. My life shifted and changed. Because, you know, the
Unknown:amount of energy I wasted on people, like if, if you're
Unknown:someone I wanted to like me, and especially if you're successful,
Unknown:I'd become like that last little puppy dog, I'd be like,
Unknown:please, please like me. And it'd be like, so annoying. People
Unknown:would be like, Get away from me, you freak. Because I was over
Unknown:trying to please them. And the moment I realized that, here's
Unknown:who I am. And either you're gonna like me, or you're not.
Unknown:And if you like me, that's awesome. If you don't, that's
Unknown:awesome. Because now I don't have to worry about wasting
Unknown:energy. And I can actually be me. And as I'm always blown away
Unknown:by the people that are attracted to me for who I am not wanting
Unknown:to me to be someone else they want and like me for who I am,
Unknown:instead of the people that are saying, well, you know if you do
Unknown:this or if you
Unknown:Do I wasted so much time and energy on that? Yeah. And I'm so
Unknown:blown away today to the quality of people, the authentic people
Unknown:that come into my life. Because they're like, Robert, I just
Unknown:want to know you more. You know, there's something about you. And
Unknown:so that's why I tell people, you know, be you just show up and
Unknown:watch, who and what gets attracted into your life, when
Unknown:you're being yourself. If even if you're a jerk, if you're
Unknown:authentically a jerk, be a jerk, because at least the people who
Unknown:like you for being a jerk, they're not going to be
Unknown:surprised when, and it's a kind of a dirty secret of the
Unknown:training industry. It blows me away and frustrates me how many
Unknown:times you see someone on the stage. And everybody's like, Oh,
Unknown:my God, they're amazing. They're so charismatic. They seem so
Unknown:kind. But the moment they step off stage, they turn into an
Unknown:asshole. And it's like, so my number one rule with my students
Unknown:that I trained to be trainers is, and it was a lesson taught
Unknown:to me by a mentor. He said, Robert, you can never when you
Unknown:start getting to this level, you're gonna meet students all
Unknown:over the world, in the strangest places, and never be afraid to
Unknown:have to try and figure out who to be in that moment when you
Unknown:meet someone. Because if you're yourself on stage, as well as
Unknown:off stage, you are as crazy as you are on stage. Yep, that's
Unknown:me. Yeah. Do have a terrible sense of humor. Yep, that's me.
Unknown:Because that's all. So that's been a big one for me. Yeah. Oh,
Unknown:man, I got so much respect for you. Because to, to hear that
Unknown:from someone who is yeah, very confident and teaching others
Unknown:is? Yeah, it's so refreshing. You know, it gives people hope
Unknown:that are not quite yet there yet, and makes us relate to you
Unknown:even better on a deeper level. It's, yeah, it's been
Unknown:incredible, a wonderful to spend time with you.
Unknown:Can you let us know like Facebook, we can reach you and I
Unknown:will make sure to have the book your book in the show notes.
Unknown:And then all the links that I find on on pod match.
Unknown:Is that is that the best way to your and you know, Aurora
Unknown:because you were fact that people have taken time to
Unknown:listen, what I'd love to do is my book success left a clue. If
Unknown:they go to Robert, real pill.com, just my name, Robert,
Unknown:real pill.com, they're actually able to download the full
Unknown:digital copy of the book as our gift to them for taking their
Unknown:time to listen. And I will say it comes with a caveat though.
Unknown:And the caveat is, I didn't write this book, too, for
Unknown:someone to read it and put it on the shelf and make it shelf
Unknown:help. That's not why I wrote it. Step number three in the book is
Unknown:taking action. And so I wrote it as an actual manual, where it's
Unknown:a workbook and all the way through their action steps. And
Unknown:as you do the actions, when you go to read more, it'll say, Did
Unknown:you do the last action? If not stop reading right now. Go back
Unknown:and do that action before you read further. And so that's the
Unknown:way I've written the book. And so I'd love for them to be able
Unknown:to go and download a copy for themselves. And you know, enjoy
Unknown:it. Yeah. Oh, that's such a super idea and very cool
Unknown:approach. Like to make it interactive. And yeah, and with
Unknown:exercises. Thank you so much.
Unknown:Yeah, it's been wonderful to connect with you. And yeah, I
Unknown:will make sure to put everything in the show notes, and then we
Unknown:share our episode all over the world.
Unknown:Perfect blessing to be here. Thank you so much.