In this episode, I have the pleasure of talking with Dr. Kiley Callaway about his work with couples in his congregation. As a pastor with a degree in pastoral counseling, Kiley is a certified Mental Freedom practitioner who uses that and Choice Theory psychology with those who come to him for help. He shares how he does that, along with some successes his clients have achieved. We also talk about how both Choice Theory and Mental Freedom, while not associated with any religion, can be supported by biblical scriptures. Kiley's counseling license allows him to work across all states so if you are interested in pastoral counseling that is underpinned by Choice Theory and Mental Freedom, you can contact him through his website, Christian Counselor | Be Transformed Christian Counseling | Gering (betransformedcounseling.org).