You've been told that turning 50 means winding down, easing off, preparing for retirement. What if it's actually when you're just getting started?

In this episode, Erica talks with her mentor Julie Ciardi, creator of the IGNITE Her® Frequencies, about the line that stopped Erica mid-drive: "What if midlife isn't a crisis, it's a calling?" They dig into Julie's own journey leaving a corporate career, why she rewrote traditional Human Design into her own language, and how understanding her family's design changed how she parents, loves, and leads.

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But my, my soul, that's why I really believe that we have

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a calling because your soul is

like continuously trying to pull

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you towards whatever that is.

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And I just knew I couldn't give

up whatever this dream was.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever heard someone

on a podcast that made you stop and

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rewind, not once, but twice, and then you

listened so intently, and what you heard

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was such a mic drop moment that it shifted

your whole perspective on something?

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Today's guest is someone that I have

mentioned a lot on this podcast.

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She is someone that made me rewind

twice, and she had a podcast on business

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and human design at the time, and

it was such a game changer for me.

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One sentence completely shifted

h- my approach to midlife.

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From that day on, I was

hooked on Julie Ciardi.

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I needed to hear

everything she had to say.

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She talks about being bingeable, and

I binged her podcast multiple times.

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I became a huge super fan, so I'm

excited to introduce you to Julie.

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She has become a mentor to me, and

has challenged me to approach my

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work differently, and has expanded my

knowledge, not just in human design,

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but just in business in general, beyond

what I ever expected that I would be at.

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She has taken a very esoteric

language of human design and the

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gene keys and rewritten them into

her own language, which she calls

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the Ignite Her Frequencies, and

then also certifies women, and a

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few good men, in those frequencies.

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Hi, I'm Erica Voell, and I want to

welcome you to The Unfolding Podcast.

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If you're new here, I'm

so glad you're here.

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I am a human design guide for women

in midlife, and my work is all about

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helping you connect the dots of how

you're designed so you can see the

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whole picture of yourself and your

relationships, and understand maybe

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why your partner needs a few days to

make a decision when you know almost

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instantly, or why you keep overthinking

and replaying those conversations in your

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mind, or why your kid in the middle of

the day needs some rest away from people.

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It's all connected.

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My clients so often say, "Oh my gosh,

Erica, this makes so much sense.

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Now I see that there's

nothing wrong with me."

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If you're new here, I'm so glad to welcome

you to The Unfolding Podcast, and if

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you're a regular listener and you enjoy

the show, please subscribe to the show and

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follow me on Substack at ericavoell.com.

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That's E-R-I-C-A, V as

in Victor, O-E-L-L.com,

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and start connecting your own dots.

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I am so excited to share

this interview with Julie.

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It was such a delight.

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We went so deep, and we talked

about so many different things about

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relationships, how she became a human

design business coach for us, and also

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what helped her leave her corporate job.

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So let's get to the interview with Julie.

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I'm so glad you're here.

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Speaker: So Julie, thank you for

joining us on The Unfolding Podcast.

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I'm kind of fan-girling even though I just

talked to you recently on a coaching call.

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So thank you for joining us.

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Oh my gosh, I'm so happy to be here.

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Thank you for having me, and I'm really

looking forward to this conversation.

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So for those of you who have been regular

listeners, I have been … You've heard me

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mention Julie's name probably 1,000 times.

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And I realize that I want my listeners

to know who Julie Ciardi is, because

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I drop your name all the time, Julie.

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So I would love for

them to hear about you.

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Oh, well thank you so much.

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And I'm, you know me,

I, I do that too, right?

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I'm always wanting to share who

I'm, you know, learning from and

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who I'm around and, and all of that.

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So I, I greatly appreciate

you doing the same.

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Um, yeah.

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I'm, I'm Julie Ciardi.

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I'm actually turning 52 this

week as, uh, as we talk here,

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and I am, um, very proud of that.

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It's actually part of why I wrote my

book, "50 Not Finished" . And I'm a

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mom of three, and I really left a very

high-paying corporate career, uh, decided

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it 10 years ago, made it happen eight

years ago, and finally pursued a lifelong

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dream, which was to start my own business.

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And now I am mentoring midlife and

beyond, like really women near and over

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50, um, to really step into their next

chapter of their life and to live in

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their highest potential of the work

that they're here to do in the world.

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Mm.

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Oh, I love it.

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I love it so much.

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So before we go any further,

I have to tell you something.

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I … On how I found you, and my

listeners don't know this, but I found

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your podcast because I was searching

for human design and business.

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I had been … I was r- I had just turned

50, and I was trying to leave the library

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job that I had been in for, or the career

I'd been in for 19 years, and you said

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something that literally stopped me.

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I was driving, so I didn't stop.

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But, um, what you said was, "What if

midlife isn't a crisis, it's a calling?"

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And I, I paused, and I was

like, "Wait, what did she say?"

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And I rewound it, and then you said

it again, and I was like, "What?"

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How could this be possible?

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Because midlife is like this crazy time.

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And so I listened to it again, and I was

so taken by it, and I just was like, you

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talk about bingeable content, like you

were the only person I listened to for

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weeks because I was just like, I wanted

to know the human design part, but I was

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also really taken in by your midlife part.

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And so I would love for you to

talk about what, what, how did this

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idea come to you, and how did you

start to weave it into your work?

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Well, thank you for sharing that.

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And I, you know me, I'm a

fan of bingeable content.

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I- that's how I c- that's how I know if

someone is someone I wanna learn from,

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be around, you know, all of that too.

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So I, I love that, uh, that share.

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So it really started, I mean, y-

honestly, it started with, you know,

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in the early 40s with making the big

shift, thinking I was too late at that

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point, you know, to leave a, a career.

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People thought I was crazy at

age 42 deciding to leave IBM.

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We sold our house, like literally

downs- like, like downgraded,

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sold our house, family of five.

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Basically, it felt like we took

the off ramp, if you will, on like

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the, the, the success of life.

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We, we took like an exit ramp and,

you know, people thought I was insane,

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but I, I knew Very clearly, and

you've heard me say this before, I

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had read the book, um, The Top Five

Regrets of the Dying by Bronnie Ware.

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And, uh, it was right about

the time I was about 42.

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I was in my son's nursery.

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I was listening to it on Audible

because I could not leave that

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child's side going to sleep.

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So I, I kept saying to myself, "Well,

at least I'm gonna, like, be learning

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something or listening to a book while

I'm trying to get my last one to sleep."

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And someone had recommended that book, and

it changed my life because I really came

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kind of face to face with the fact that,

okay, like I'm not getting any younger.

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I'm 42.

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If, if I'm, if I'm going to go

all the way till, you know, maybe

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hopefully 85, 90 or beyond, would

I have any regrets right now?

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Hmm.

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And it was like, oh yeah.

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And that regret would be working where

I was working, doing what I was…

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where I was spending the most of my time.

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We spend s- most of our time at work.

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And I knew in my heart that I was meant

to start my own thing and do my own thing.

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So this, this journey to midlife really

being a calling really started, uh, like

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10 years ago when I was in my early 40s.

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And then as I ventured out and started

my own, my own business, and it was hard.

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Like, you hear me talk

about this all the time.

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I mean, it was not overnight.

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It was really hard.

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I was, you know, in debt,

fighting with my husband.

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He wanted me to update my, my

resume, you know, and, and start

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looking for jobs on LinkedIn.

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And it was just, it was a

really challenging time.

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But my, my soul, that's why I really

believe that we have a calling because

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your soul is like continuously trying

to pull you towards whatever that is.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I just knew I couldn't give

up whatever this dream was.

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And so finally, you know, by the age of

about, you know, 45, 46, the business

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finally started taking, taking off,

and it took turns and directions I

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didn't even know why at the time.

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But as I was approaching 50 The, it

was this overwhelming in a beautiful

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way, like a good overwhelming feeling

of, "Oh, I'm just getting started.

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I'm just getting started."

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Like, I really…

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It was this…

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Don- and don't get me wrong, I had

aches and pains in all my joints.

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I, you know, was off and

on with getting my period.

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I, you know, was, um, having hot

flashes and waking up at 3:00 AM

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with crazy, um, panic at 3:00 AM-

Mm-hmm … in the morning, where

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I would be like, "Do we need to go

to the, like the emergency room?"

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Like, I woke my husband up a couple

of times and I'm like, "What's wrong?"

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So l- listen, I'm not trying to

paint this, like, rosy picture of

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48, 49, um, where I was just s-

just my calling was this bright

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light that I was going towards.

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That, they both existed

at the same time, right?

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Like they both- Mm-hmm … were

existing at the same time.

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So I was, like, trying to make myself

physically feel better with estrogen

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leaving the building, and also this

beautiful overwhelming feeling that

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I was just getting started and that

I hadn't even hit my stride yet- Mm

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in the work that I was

meant to do in this world.

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And so I had been writing this book,

was not called "50 Not Finished," okay?

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It was more of a book, and it still is,

the book is a culmination of lessons and

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learnings over the course of really the

last probably 15 years to end up doing

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the work that I was meant to do in the

world, and I wanted to share that with

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others 'cause I know not everyone is gonna

be as insane as I am in how I consume

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books and, you know, and all the things.

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So I, I was writing this book and I

thought it was gonna be called Ignite Her.

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Kind of been my brand, two words

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and I was just gonna call it that.

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But that, as I was nearing 50 and I was

really in, you know, really studying

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human design and really understanding

that, well, actually, you know, we

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don't actually begin to even have the

full flowering of our purpose happen

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until after 50, that just hit me and

I was like, "Yes, that's how I feel."

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Mm-hmm.

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And the name 50 Not Finished,

like, just was a download.

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It just dropped in.

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Like, that, it just came out of

nowhere, this beautiful divine download.

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And the beautiful thing, Erica, is that

every woman, almost every woman, that

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sees the book and just hears or sees those

three words goes, "Yep, I feel that too."

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Even though they also feel all

these other things that are going

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on physically and m- emotionally,

they're like, "But I feel that too."

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Mm.

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And so it just started to become this…

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I was like, I, then all of a sudden

I realized, oh, I'm not alone- in

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this calling concept that, that we're

just beginning to answer the call.

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And so that's where that all came from

because it was like this evolution.

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At first I thought it was just me, and

in- interestingly enough, I used to work

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with women of all ages, and really in

the last three years, 3 1/2, well maybe

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2 1/2 years, I decided to go all in on

just really working with women near and

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over 50 because this is the good stuff.

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Like, this is where, like we've gone

through all the things that we've gone

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through, and now it's time for us,

and we really couldn't before now-

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Mm-hmm

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… answer the call.

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Because you have to have life.

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You have to have the wisdom.

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You have to have the experience

to be able to go to that next

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level and answering your call.

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So long answer, but it was such a journey.

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It wasn't like overnight

I thought about it.

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It was like, whoa, it was such an

evolution, and it's so exciting

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to know that so many women

everywhere feel the exact same way.

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Yeah.

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And I, I got a preview copy on your,

of your book before it was published.

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I read the whole thing on my

phone and I was like, "Yes, yes."

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And I just remember, like you gave us a

deadline of when you needed the review,

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but I, I was taking it in such small

doses because I wanted it to last, and

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I was, I was like, "Ooh, yes, yes, yes.

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I feel this way, too."

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But you've also, like, introduced me to

a couple of people that I was like, "I

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need to go back and check into them."

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Like, I'm reading the Psycho-Cybernetics

book right now because th- it feels

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so much like the work that I'm doing

right now with self-love, and self-image

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is c- such a huge part of that.

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And I … It just … I love

that you even brought in S-

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Florence Scov- is it Scovel Shain?

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Yeah, it's Florence Scovel Shain.

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I, I have her ph- I have that book

on my phone also, and I just am

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like, yes, okay We, we've been sold

for so long, when you hit 45, you're

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gonna go through the midlife crisis.

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Maybe you'll get the sports car.

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I didn't want the fricking sports car.

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Like, give me something that's

good, that really feels like me.

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And for…

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You completely changed how I, how I

felt, and I had burned out at 48, so

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to feel like 50, I had just finished

my coaching certification right as I

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turned 50, and I was like, oh, I am,

I am not start- trying to start over.

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I'm, like, just hitting my stride.

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That was so huge.

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Yes.

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It's such a perspective shift.

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And what's so fascinating is, I mean,

growing up, I didn't see that anywhere.

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No.

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It was g- this is when you

get ready for retirement.

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Yes.

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I mean, that's a totally

different perspective.

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Yes.

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My grandmother and grandfather

both retired at 55, and I was

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like, they got the Airstream.

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They did all the retirement stuff.

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They got into square dancing.

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And I was like, that's what I

want, but I don't wanna live…

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I don't wanna work to fu- to till 65.

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I wanna be doing the things

that I wanna do now, and it's

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not like I have to start over.

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No, and I…

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One of the first people, and I reference

him all the time, you know that, Bob

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Proctor, and he's, he's just such a…

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He's a, a very big factor in being able

to get through some really of the hard

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stuff to come out the other side, and I've

lear- I've just learned so much from him.

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But I learned a lot from

him as a role model, right?

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Like, he's a 6'2".

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He, he's a Manifestor 6'2".

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He was here to provoke, you know, people.

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His 39 was his, his son.

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He Just sh- he lived and

embodied what I want.

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And it was that he died at 87, and I

literally had had, like, d- dinner with

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him and his wife, like, six months before

then, and he was still studying, still

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reading his books, still going live and

teaching and sharing and helping people.

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He was still working in his business,

and he loved it, and he just was glowing.

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And I just don't know a lot of

people that are doing their life's

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work into their 80s, and it was such

a, um, inspiration for me because

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I was like, "That's what I want."

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I had someone say to me the other

day, it's like, "So, uh, what,

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what are you thinking of, like,

you know, retiring or, you know,

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are you gonna sell your business?"

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I'm like, "No.

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Like, I'm not going anywhere.

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Like, I'm, I'm actually just

getting started in my work."

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And sometimes we just need a couple

of living examples- Mm-hmm … to show

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us opposite of what society is showing

us to have us go, "Oh, you know what?

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This is, this is possible.

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Like, I, this is what I want."

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Yeah.

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You know?

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I never would've thought that's what I

wanted because I never saw it, you know?

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Yes.

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If I was in my 20s or 30s, I

mean, I, like, I'd be like,

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"What are you talking about?

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No, you're supposed to retire."

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Like I wouldn't even think-

… like, "Oh, that's so sad.

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He has to work at 87?"

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Uh-huh.

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You know what I mean?

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Like, it's just such a different idea.

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And so to see that idea in real

life and be like, "Ooh, but

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actually that's what I want."

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Yes.

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And I, I was at the grocery

store a few weeks ago, and I was

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like, you know, I was just…

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I don't know why I got to talking

to the, the one, the cashier.

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She was in her, I think she

was in her 80s, and she said

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somebody said something to her.

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They see her every week, and I don't

see her every week, but what was so

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fascinating to me is she's like, she

told this woman, she's like, "Honey, I

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don't work 'cause I'm h- I wanna be here.

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I work because you all are my friends."

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And I was like, "Oh."

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What an awesome experience to, like, wanna

be a cashier at the grocery store because

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that's your social time with people, and

I just, I love that, and I wanted to be

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like, "Can I look up your human design?"

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I know, right?

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Are you a 6/2?

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Isn't it

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funny- Are you a 4/6?

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… how, like, we think this way?

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Like, we wanna look up everyone's…

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I do.

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Uh-huh.

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I wanna look up everyone's

design at all times.

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Yes.

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Oh, yes, and I, when I did a

podcast recently, I was like,

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"Can I look up your design?"

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So I could talk about her, and

just human design in general.

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So that leads perfectly

into my next question.

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So what…

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So you didn't find human design

right away in your business, but

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what was it that just made you

pause and, like, say, "Okay, this is

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something I need to dig into further"?

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Well, it's funny, and you know

this, and I'll, I'll share

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this with your, your listeners.

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I mean, uh, human design did not

come into my life for business.

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And it came into my life because

I declared a goal five years

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ago now, which is crazy to me.

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I'm so happy and grateful now that

I love my husband unconditionally.

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I had a huge business goal, and I felt

very confident on my business goal.

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I did not feel as confident on

this personal goal, that I was

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gonna actually learn how to

love my husband unconditionally.

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And the reason that I declared this

goal was that I really wanted to give my

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marriage everything that I could, and I

had heard from someone once before that

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it is possible to comple- to get divorced

from someone and love them and not have

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it be from a place of anger and hate and

all these things, and we've got kids.

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And I thought, "I like that idea."

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And I…

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That's another, an, back to another

idea that I was like, "Oh, really?"

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'Cause actually, what's normal is people

get divorced, and it's angry, and it's…

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And they're an- the, it, the

hate, and all the things, hurt.

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And so I said, "Okay, that's my goal.

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That is my…

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My, my goal is to love him

unconditionally and then make a decision."

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See how different that is, right?

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Ooh.

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Like, I'm gonna love him

unconditionally first- And then I'm

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gonna make a decision on whether

or not this marriage is … Right?

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So it was fascinating.

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So of course, I make this goal, and

human design comes into my world,

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and I literally, you know this,

I poo-poohed it the first time

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I saw it, which was years prior.

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I think a good friend of mine

who's all into everything was

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like, "Oh, you gotta try this."

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And the second she sent me, like,

this app to run it, the second it

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showed my birth data, I said, "Nope."

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I didn't even put my stuff in.

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I said, "No.

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No, that's weird.

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I'm very logical."

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I'm like, "No."

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Same.

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Years later, I declare this goal.

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In comes human design again, and

I'm like, "Ugh, not this again."

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And someone was like, "Just

do it, just do it," so I then

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this time I put my thing in.

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And then it got worse 'cause I saw that

body graph and all these numbers- Oh

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… and all this stuff, and I like simplicity.

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I am like- … love simplicity, don't

like complexity, and I was like, "Oh, hell

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no," like, and I, I again poo-poohed it.

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And then, so, uh, uh, God, universe,

source, like, it was like, "Okay,

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listen, like, you made this goal.

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I'm trying to help you."

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"You need to receive this,"

and said, "Maybe that y-

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that's too complicated for you.

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Let's give her Gene Keys."

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Right?

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So then Gene Keys came in, and it

was a way for me to actually be able

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to digest some very important things

that I needed to see and hear without

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the overwhelm, if that makes sense.

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Mm-hmm.

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It still had its own challenges 'cause

I love it and I love Richard Rudd, but

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it was, it can be very, um, esoteric,

and I, like, some of the words,

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I'm like looking up at the source,

like, "What does that word mean?

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I don't even know what

that word means," right?

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Um, but it was s- but it was a

more simple system and elegant,

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and I love that and I value that.

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And so that started to open

the door, and then I was like,

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"All right, I guess I need…"

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And then it just became this

rabbit hole, but honestly, Erica,

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it was a rabbit hole for me.

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You know?

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Like, on the, over here I'm working on

my business, teaching women in business,

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helping them, and, but, but the thing that

I was searching for in my business was

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how do I help women actually get unstuck

or get unstuck from their patterns?

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Because no matter what I taught

strategy-wise from a business

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standpoint … I mean, I have my MBA.

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I worked at IBM as the IBM vice president

of marketing and sales for 20 years.

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Like, I know business.

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Uh, some people would take it

and run and have success, and

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other people would remain stuck,

and I'm like, "Oh, I've gotta…

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How do I crack that code?"

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So I, that, I knew I needed to help them,

but I wasn't sure what it was gonna be.

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Mm-hmm.

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I'm over here on the other side

trying to save my marriage by

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loving my husband unconditionally,

and like, human design came in.

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My strategic mind, the second I

really started to see and understand

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human design, I was like, "Oh, this

is the missing piece of everything."

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Like, I was like, "This is the missing

piece in the business with my clients.

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This is the missing piece for me

and my family and my relationship."

409

And so I just love that I set that

goal, and I'm a firm believer in

410

this, that you set these big, crazy,

impossible goals, things start mo- And,

411

and you're willing and open to wanting

to go after it, and it's your goal.

412

Things just start moving

into your purview, right?

413

Things start coming in,

people, different things.

414

And for me, those two…

415

Like, my goals were dependent on human

design, but I didn't even know it.

416

And then it just was history from there.

417

I became obsessed with it and

started to bring it to my clients.

418

But of course, as I started to bring

it to them, they were like, "What?"

419

Yes.

420

Like, like, "We love you, and we…"

421

But, ugh, like they were just…

422

They had the feeling I did when I first

saw it, and they're like, "Well, can

423

you just tell me what this means?"

424

Or, "I don't get this."

425

And- Mm-hmm … one particular client

was like, "Can you just Julie ties it?

426

I don't understand."

427

And she was so funny.

428

She was like set to renew for another

year in our, in our program, and she

429

was like I just, I can't re- I, I

wanna stay, but this stuff's weird.

430

Like, she was just like, "I

don't s- I g- I don't know.

431

You brought this in, and I know you're

passionate about it, and I trust you."

432

Like, it was s- it was really kinda cool.

433

"I trust you, but I do

not understand this."

434

And I was like, "All right.

435

I need to rewrite this."

436

And that was where, again, like,

I feel like we're given all

437

these, like, gifts and clues and

pieces, and you start to see.

438

And that's when I decided to rewrite

the, the language really t- so that

439

it could be more r- like, attainable

and understandable, and just people

440

didn't need, you know, someone to

decipher- Mm-hmm … their design.

441

That they could actually begin to

have it just wash over them and,

442

like, penetrate without needing

that extra support and help.

443

And, and that's…

444

It's just been a, a…

445

such a labor of love to, to do that.

446

Although, I'm sure we'll talk about it.

447

I was like, "Can I do this?"

448

And I, I don't…

449

Like, I know, but I know this is

what I'm meant to do, you know?

450

Which was so- Mm-hmm

… fascinating, but yeah.

451

Which, which is so cool

because, like, I…

452

when I found human design, my therapist

recommended it to me because she's…

453

I was burned out, and she's

like, "Erica, just go look up

454

your d- human design type."

455

I was like, "No.

456

Okay, Eat Right for Your Blood Type."

457

I don't know why that wa-

that stuck in my head.

458

I looked it up, and I was like, weird,

but the word heretic is in my profile.

459

And I was like, "Heretic?

460

Tell me more."

461

And I just glommed onto that, and then

I listened to every podcast I could find

462

about explaining it, and it was so…

463

But some of them were so

esoteric, I could not follow them.

464

And there was one woman I really loved,

but then she'd get very, flowery is

465

not the right word, and I was like,

"Okay, I can't do this," 'cause I,

466

I was at that s- part- point in my

life where I wanted, I wanted to

467

be doing moon circles with women.

468

I wanted to be doing these, you

know, they're not airy-fairy,

469

but the spiritual things.

470

Mm.

471

But I am so logical and practical.

472

But then as I started to dive in,

and then I found, um, my other

473

mentor of Erin Claire Jones, and

she had made it so practical.

474

And she was like, "Here is

how a generator is created."

475

And I was like- What?

476

There is like a, a puzzle to all of this.

477

It's not just like a bunch of numbers that

just get sort of like put into this chart.

478

And I, I was obsessed.

479

I was obsessed.

480

I was doing charts for everybody.

481

I was asking people what

their human design was.

482

It was, it was crazy, but I didn't…

483

It was a friend who said,

finally said, "You know, you're

484

constantly talking about this.

485

Are you going to ever share it?"

486

And I was like, "Mm, maybe when

I finish my certification."

487

And she's like, "Well, when you're ready."

488

But that was the push I

needed to be like, "You know."

489

Yeah, the people

490

that come in and, and

give you the evidence.

491

Yes.

492

Yeah.

493

Yes.

494

Uh, but it was so cool as, as a

5/1 to be like, "I do know enough.

495

I can share this."

496

And then I just did

497

like- Well, that's it, because

the 1's gonna go so deep-

498

Yes

499

but you're actually meant

to share it so wide.

500

Mm-hmm.

501

Right?

502

And z- with all these people, right?

503

And be that messenger, right?

504

And it's like, it's just, it's

so, it's like they conflict.

505

Yes.

506

But also being very practical.

507

Can you use it in your real life?

508

Like, that's what are my, my

thing, is can you use it- Right

509

in your real life?

510

Because-

511

Same

512

… I can give you all the stuff.

513

I can give you all the words But if

it doesn't make any sense, then you're

514

gonna be like, "Yeah, good information.

515

I'll just put this in my pile of

stuff", and then you come across

516

it- Exactly … five years later.

517

That's, uh, y- you and I, I think,

are so on the same page with that.

518

And, and I, I too, that,

that practicality of it.

519

But make no mistake, the depth of

transformation that can come from the

520

practical is incredible to me- Uh-huh

521

… honestly.

522

I mean, I have-

523

Right?

524

It's like, it's almost like

transformational in disguise,

525

because it's so practical-

526

Uh-huh

527

… and digestible, and then like, oh, I did

not see that coming, in terms of like

528

the aha, or the oh, snap, that is, that's

a pattern that I had like literally

529

been living my whole life- Uh-huh

530

that's causing this result.

531

You know?

532

Yes.

533

Yes.

534

And I still…

535

One of my very first clients

still messages me, and she's like,

536

"Erica, you'd be so proud of me."

537

Like, just learning her, her

trust your gut authority was

538

such a game changer for her.

539

But I love when clients message

me and they're like, "You would be

540

so proud of me", or, "I did this".

541

And I'm like, "Oh, yay.

542

I haven't talked to you in a while, but

543

yay."

544

The best.

545

I love it so much.

546

I love…

547

And I love the how it

plays out in relationships.

548

But before we get to that, I wanna

talk more about your human design

549

experience, because I know that you did

not finish your certification, and you

550

did something that you, you alluded to

it earlier about like, could you do this?

551

So Julie publishes a daily podcast

for us as clients called The Daily

552

Frequency, and oh my gosh, I listen

to it, I listen to every episode.

553

I won't say that I listen to it on

the day it gets released, because

554

some days it's not what I need to

hear, and then then I'll listen to

555

it on a Sunday, and I'm like, "Yes,

this is exactly what I need to hear."

556

I love

557

that.

558

Trusting

559

your intuition.

560

Yes.

561

Yep.

562

So in today's episode, you talked about

not finishing your cer- certification.

563

Can you share that story, and like

what made, what came about from

564

that that inspired you to create

something completely different?

565

Yeah.

566

It was, it was so interesting, right?

567

It's, it's, I, I, being analytical

and also being the good student my

568

whole life, you know, it's like,

well, I'm gonna go and I'm gonna get

569

certified, I'm gonna learn from the

best, I'm gonna do all the things.

570

And so I, you know, was in like the

official schools and said I'm gonna get

571

certified, go all the way, all the way.

572

And, and, and it was incredible.

573

I mean, I learned so,

so much, all the things.

574

But- I, I didn't finish.

575

It was what, I think I was like,

like a last semester shy of

576

finishing, and I think this was all

at the exact same moment that I was

577

already working with my clients.

578

They're already saying,

"What are you talking about?

579

This, this doesn't make any sense to me."

580

Hearing all of that, but also hearing

at the same time of like, "You have to

581

do it exactly this way, and it needs

to look like this, and your business

582

can't say this, and you can't do…"

583

And it was just this, a lot

of, like everything that I felt

584

like I needed to g- go against.

585

But like, 'cause for me it's, it's

actually I, all of us, I mean, human

586

design is about trusting our own inner

authority- Mm-hmm … and not outer,

587

you know, someone else's authority.

588

And I just, I just knew that I

needed the freedom to create.

589

And then I, it was, I said it

this on the Daily Frequency

590

today, but it was almost magical.

591

Again, we, we get and receive

exactly what we need to receive,

592

exactly when we need it.

593

Mm-hmm.

594

And I, I love listening to Ra, and I

happened to be listening to one of his

595

old lectures, and it was in a room full

of certified people, he certified, of,

596

of human design reader, a- analysts.

597

And he said, "You are

not here to parrot me."

598

Uh, you are here to bring this

knowledge forth in your own way.

599

He's like, "My conscious sign is a 51."

600

He's like, "I am here to shock and awe."

601

I mean, this is what he said, right?

602

He's like…

603

And then he brought up another, another

man in the room, I forget his name, and

604

he goes, "And, and Kevin is not a 51."

605

You know, he's a whatever he was, right?

606

And so he was really

giving that permission.

607

And I also was sharing that, you

know, he walked the talk because he

608

actually gave the permission to Richard

Rudd to create the Gene Keys, 'cause

609

Richard Rudd used to work for Ra.

610

Mm-hmm.

611

Right?

612

And so I really, uh, uh, uh, again,

that whole, like, gotta color

613

in, in the lines and, you know,

all the how we're raised, right?

614

I mean, especially me being in a

corporate environment all those years,

615

like you can't go outside the lines.

616

It, it just finally, I really feel-

felt like I had, like, it was the

617

call, it was a call to really take

this and actually make it something

618

way more applicable for women.

619

And, and quite frankly, it's especially

where I'm, where I'm working to

620

bring this out bigger out into the

world, that component of it is very

621

aligned actually to the i-Ching.

622

Mm-hmm.

623

And so the i-Ching is,

like, older than the Bible.

624

I mean, it's, like, one of the most

ancient texts from a human, uh, you

625

know, humans on the planet, and it's

literally the 64 ways of being human.

626

You know, the good, the bad, the

amazing, the ugly, all the things.

627

And so to me, uh, we end up

creating our own body of work.

628

W- And listen, nothing's new.

629

I mean, but it's new in how we bring

things forward out into the world.

630

Mm-hmm.

631

And so I'm very much a, like l- I always

am talking about all the teachers that

632

I've ever learned from, and I'm always,

you know, giving people credit for that.

633

And also b- being able to create- an

approach, a framework, words, a language

634

that really makes this knowledge available

and more open to, quite frankly, what I

635

would say would probably be a population

that probably wouldn't have gone into

636

the depths of traditional human design.

637

And that feels really, really good to

me, and, and, and I see the impact of

638

it every day, because every single day

someone is saying, "Oh my gosh, I listened

639

to the Daily Frequency today, and this

happened, this happened, or that happened,

640

and I see things differently now."

641

Mm-hmm.

642

Everything.

643

Yes.

644

Oh, yes.

645

I will…

646

A- and it was so funny a couple weeks ago.

647

You were like, "Everybody's in doubt

and confusion," and I was like, "I don't

648

know what she's talking about, because

I have never been so clear this year."

649

And then I realized that, like,

it, the 64 completes my 47,

650

and so I had massive clarity.

651

I was s- I had s- did so much work

that week on my business, and it was…

652

Trisha and I were talking about,

geeking out about it, and I went…

653

She's like, "Yes!"

654

And I…

655

So I looked up, where

can I get this clarity?

656

And I know that October 9th is mine,

is when the moon moves back into

657

the 64, and so that's gonna be my

day to really work on some stuff.

658

But it's so cool, and I have to

say, I love that the freedom that

659

you give us with this, using the

Ignite Her Frequencies, because I,

660

I have a 5 in my sun, conscious sun,

and so I don't like rigid things.

661

If there's some rigidity, I'm

gonna be looking about like,

662

"How can I skirt around this?"

663

Like, and not get myself into trouble,

but still, like, stay true to it.

664

But I'm still gonna, like, try to…

665

I'm gonna push the boundaries.

666

So I love that you've given us

the freedom you've given us.

667

And I have to say, where I really,

really saw the power of this…

668

I mean, I've seen the power of this

with my clients, but I did a workshop

669

back in April, and I took the cards

that you, the frequency cards, and

670

everybody read their, the conscious and

sun and earth, and everybody was crying.

671

And then we did it at a retreat about

a, two months later, and everybody was

672

crying, and people were ordering cards

because they're like, "I need this."

673

But to see it and to hear them speak

it, and to see it come over their body

674

was so powerful, and I, I've had these

experiences with clients, but I've never

675

seen it in a group, and they were all

like, "Oh my gosh, I totally feel that."

676

Look at your chart.

677

It's there

678

Oh, wow.

679

I- you know what?

680

I'm gonna tell you right

now, I'm taking a note.

681

I'm gonna, I'm gonna do that in the

room on September 30th, uh, when

682

I'm doing the, uh, the, an event.

683

I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,

I'm gonna give you credit for that.

684

I love that because the cards are written-

685

Mm-hmm

686

… in a I, like an I am.

687

Like, it's an, like, so it's…

688

Ooh, I love that.

689

Yes.

690

And what was so…

691

I d- we had name tags, and so they had

their core four on their name tags.

692

And I would say, "Oh-" "Tricia, I want

you to look across the table at Natalie

693

and see if she has that number too."

694

And sure enough, it was in her core four,

and they, uh, they were just like…

695

After- afterwards, they were

like, "Can I look at your numbers?

696

Can I look at your numbers?

697

'Cause what you said

really resonated with me."

698

And so then I would also say like,

"Look at- let's look at your chart."

699

For one of them, it was her nodes.

700

She's like, "I feel like that's

like what's happening in my life."

701

And I was like, "Yep, that's

the second half of your life,

702

so that's why it's resonating."

703

That's good.

704

I love…

705

And you know what?

706

This- what I love so much is us right

here on this podcast co-creating, because

707

that's the other part, right, that we

talk all the time about in our community.

708

Mm-hmm.

709

I'm not- I- I'm not the be-all,

end-all of like how we're doing this.

710

It's about like we- we're- we're

sharing and, and learning together.

711

You know, uh, we had a coaching call

today, and one of, one of the clients on

712

the coaching call said, "Yeah, you know, I

just decided to strip out the body graph.

713

I feel like it's too

complicated for my people."

714

And I'm like, "That's genius."

715

Like- … for some people

we should do that, right?

716

Yes.

717

And then I love this exercise

that you did, and the power of

718

that, and I think that's the

new era right there, by the way.

719

Mm-hmm.

720

That it's…

721

The old era is, "This is

how Human Design is done.

722

It's only done this way.

723

You need an analyst who's been for

three years, and then you can't

724

even begin to talk about Human

Design until you've had your own

725

experiment for seven years minimum,"

and all this like insanity, right?

726

And that's old era.

727

New era is this, this, it- we're in this

co-creative, there is no guru, there is no

728

one in the room that has all the answers.

729

It's actually the collective has the

answers, because each individual person-

730

Mm-hmm … is bringing forward their

own individual authority around it,

731

and that's what makes it richer- Yes

732

and more beautiful, and-

Yes … so powerful to like,

733

to share, so I love that.

734

Like, I literally just took some notes.

735

I'm like, "Ooh, we're gonna

do that in the event."

736

I love it.

737

So thank you.

738

I love

739

it.

740

Um, so I wanna go back to Human

Design and how it changed your family.

741

Ooh.

742

And you talked about your husband

and like what has happened with that.

743

But what happened when you

started to study your kids?

744

And I know you have a

Projector kid, and was he…

745

Is the rest of your house Generators

and Manifesting Generators?

746

Yes.

747

My husband and I are both Manifesting

Generators, and then my, uh, two of

748

my older kids are both Generators.

749

Oh my gosh.

750

Triple split.

751

Both of them are triple split Generators.

752

Very social, needing to be with lots

of different people, go, go, go.

753

Um, and then my, my Projector, my

youngest, and so n- I'll start with him.

754

I just have a, such a

connection to this little boy.

755

Like, we just are so tight.

756

We're so close, and there's certain

parts of our design that really, like,

757

you know, you can see that connection.

758

But I always had just super strong

compassion, uh, for him, and he

759

was different than my other two

children in his, in his energy.

760

I could see it before I ever

knew anything about human design.

761

Mm.

762

And my husband would be

like, "What's wrong?"

763

Like, "Why isn't he, like, doing

all the sports and doing all

764

the things, and da, da, da, da?"

765

You know, like all of us.

766

And when I learned he was a Projector,

I'm like, "Of course he is."

767

Like, of course he's

a Projector, you know?

768

And I watch him and I observe him,

and he's one of these kids who, just

769

like a Projector is so good in a group

of Generators, like, he has a group

770

of boys that, that are his buddies

since they were three years old.

771

He's now 12.

772

They are definitely all Generator,

Manifesting Generators, no doubt.

773

And then he's the Projector in that

group, and he just, he's so connected

774

and observant about his group, and

he knows them so well, and it, it

775

just, he just, he just really is,

like, this really cool member of that

776

group because he is this Projector.

777

You can just see it, right?

778

Mm-hmm.

779

But then he needs a break, and he

will look at me, and he'll be like…

780

He'll mouth, 'cause he doesn't want

anyone to feel bad, like, "I need to go

781

home," or, "Can we send this g- kid home?"

782

Like like we have someone over.

783

Like, he will be done, and he

knows, and then he, and he has this

784

whole funny thing that he says.

785

My kids make fun of him.

786

I'm like, "You guys don't understand.

787

He's a Projector."

788

He doesn't, my son doesn't

even know he's a Projector.

789

He's knows nothing about this.

790

Like, I don't, like- Oh, interesting

… labels or anything like that.

791

So, like, I don't really t-

I don't s- talk about it.

792

Yeah.

793

I just parent him the way I know he

needs to get parented as a result.

794

But, like, he came up with this

himself 'cause he just knows himself,

795

and we do know ourself, you see, and

unfortunately, we get, like, told no,

796

and this, and be, should be this way.

797

And he says, "I need a chill day."

798

I need my chill day.

799

So he'll have a busy day, and

then he's like, "I need my

800

chill time, and I need my time."

801

And, like, he knows this about

himself, and when he needs his

802

time, he doesn't really move.

803

Like, his body needs to recharge.

804

And so, yes, you could think something's

wrong with him, unless you understand.

805

And I think what's beautiful about

human design is you can gain so

806

much compassion and understanding.

807

Same thing with my other two.

808

You know, they're very different from

each other, even though they're both are

809

g- both generators and, and triple split.

810

They have a lot of

friction with each other.

811

Mm-hmm.

812

And it's very painful as a mom to see,

like, two of your kids, like, really not

813

get along their whole life , you know?

814

And then to start…

815

Like, when I started studying human design

and I was like, "Oh, I could see the why."

816

Mm-hmm.

817

And just, like, but every place

that there's that, that, that tough

818

connection, there's the possibility

for the beautiful connection and the

819

higher-frequency connection as well.

820

And but you could just see, I can

see where my daughter really triggers

821

my son and, and all those things.

822

So it was just, like, being able to see

it, witness it, and then whatever you

823

can do as a parent to help the situation.

824

'Cause you, you feel like you got,

like, the inside scoop- Yes … when

825

you look at their design, right?

826

You're like, "Oh, I get

why this is going on."

827

I see what my kids' biggest lessons are.

828

I see their superpowers.

829

Mm-hmm.

830

But I see where their biggest lessons

are, and instead of, like, it paining

831

me that my daughter needs to go through

X, Y, Z, I'm like, "Oh, but she must."

832

Yeah.

833

It's not something I'm, I

go through, so I c- right?

834

So it's about understanding

compassion and also allowing.

835

Mm-hmm.

836

Like, I can't fix that

because she actually, it's

837

something she's here to learn.

838

Yeah.

839

It's her core four, you know?

840

And so it's just, that stuff's fascinating

and, and then with the husband, you

841

know, y- you can start to love someone

unconditionally the more you understand

842

them, the more you can be in their

shoes, the more you can see the why

843

maybe you're being this way or that way.

844

And when you do that, it

becomes so less about you.

845

Mm-hmm.

846

Like, "Why is he treating me this way?

847

Why is it…"

848

Right?

849

And you start…

850

And it's, again, not, it's not like it's

all roses all the time by any means.

851

But it's just this ability to see w- the

unseen, and to, like, accept that, "But,

852

oh, but this is, these are his patterns."

853

And I think what's been fascinating

is understanding my own and

854

seeing how mine can trigger his.

855

And so have you ever been in a, with

any k- well, and it could be a kid

856

or a, you know, spouse or whatever.

857

You know, when you're with…

858

When two people can

really escalate upwards.

859

Mm-hmm.

860

Like, 'cause some people just shut

down or this, but, like, my husband

861

we're the, like, it was like fire,

putting fuel on the fire, right?

862

Oh my gosh.

863

When one person's not doing

that- It can't keep going up.

864

And so I realized es- like especially

with, with the way how I- I'm,

865

I'm very emotional and I'm very

emotionally attached to my communication

866

center, like heavily like heavily.

867

And so I actually a- am almost

like in control in a sense of

868

how fiery that's gonna get.

869

And, and so really being able to

dial it down, to learn how to respond

870

versus react, to take a beat, to

understand more where he might be

871

coming from, it changed the game for us.

872

It- Mm-hmm … I mean, completely.

873

And I mean, it started with me

understanding me first and foremost,

874

but I mean, you can't, you can't even

875

I, I don't know anything else out there,

maybe, maybe the Enneagram a bit, but

876

like even that, I just … Nothing

has helped me to see my family.

877

And I honestly, you know what, Erica?

878

That's what actually also sealed the deal

for me, my logical, analytical, not so

879

sure on these, you know, like this whole

woo-woo thing and planets, and like,

880

I still like, I still have resistance.

881

Even now, I still have resistance.

882

Like you probably, you hear

me, I never say the planets.

883

Mm-hmm.

884

Like I never use the names of the planets.

885

It's like I'm still…

886

Nothing confirmed for me more than

seeing my children in their designs, and

887

like in their charts, in their reports,

and I'm like, "Oh, man, this is them."

888

Uh-huh.

889

And who knows their y-

kids better than the mom?

890

Yes.

891

Like w- how, what was

your experience with that?

892

So it, it … So my husband and

I both have the same number,

893

Enneagram number, and I was like,

okay, so he's an artist by night.

894

You know, he does librarianship by day.

895

But we were just so

different, and I could not

896

figure-

897

Well, wait, what Enneagram?

898

We're both 4s.

899

Me too.

900

And I just was like something d- something

wasn't feeling right, and I thought, well,

901

it's b- you know, I'm burned out and I

was just like, I'm just the roommate.

902

W- we're just not…

903

Something wasn't gelling.

904

And then I learned his human design.

905

He's a manifesting generator.

906

I'm a generator, and that right

there like told so much of our story.

907

He is doing all the things in the kitchen.

908

And I'm like step by step by step.

909

Like when we have to clean up the

house before somebody comes over,

910

he's got five rooms done and I'm

still focused on the coffee table.

911

Because I'm like, "I gotta go through all

the papers and, like, make the piles."

912

And he's like, "C- come on."

913

But that right there was huge.

914

But also learning he was a 2/4

and that he needed his solitude t-

915

for c- to create his art brought

something back in me that was like,

916

i- he is not trying to ignore me.

917

He needs his solitude for, for creation.

918

And so that was huge.

919

And my daughter and I are both

5/1 emotional generators, but

920

we could not be more different.

921

But we, we create, like,

an emotional wave together.

922

We each have our own diff- different

emotional waves, and my poor husband,

923

who has a completely open emotional

center, deals with both of us.

924

And, like, I … My daughter, when she's

in this, like, really heightened state,

925

I have learned to tell him, "Just go.

926

Just go.

927

I will handle it," because

I can just- 'Cause you can

928

handle it … I can handle it.

929

Now, sh- sometimes she sends me

over the edge, but for the most

930

part, like, just learning type,

profile, and authority was huge.

931

And I know how to ask him what he

wants for d- you know, whatever,

932

um, the rapid-fire questions.

933

But my daughter, I'm like,

"You need to sleep on it."

934

And Julie, it saved us so much money.

935

Oh my gosh.

936

Saved us so much money.

937

Ah-huh.

938

No more impulse buys at Target.

939

You know, "I want this."

940

"Well, if you want this,

we'll come back tomorrow."

941

Nine times out of 10, we- she forgets

about it, and I'm okay with that.

942

Yes.

943

But it's-

944

Yeah

945

… it, and my husband now says when I'm

like, "I'll volunteer for something,"

946

and he's like, "Are you sure you don't

need to sleep on that before you tell

947

anybody, give anybody that answer?"

948

'Cause-

949

Oh, that's a good husband right there

950

… my, all of my life, I

made quick decisions.

951

My whole family made quick decisions.

952

And I was like … I don't know

how many decisions I regretted, and

953

I would always hope to get sick.

954

Same, girl, same.

955

Same.

956

Yes.

957

It was- Yeah … it, but it's,

it was such a game changer, and I

958

thought, "Why didn't anybody…"

959

I wasn't ready for it before.

960

No.

961

But at the same time, like, I feel

like- I, I always say that, you know,

962

Human Design is the secret decoder ring

to your family and your relationships.

963

And I just, I want to tell everybody

who has a kid, like, I'm gonna give

964

you some information about them,

but I don't necessarily want you

965

to be like, "You're a Generator.

966

You should have, you know-

Right … consistent energy."

967

Like, she knows that.

968

Uh-huh.

969

But she does not…

970

There are other parts of her design,

she's like, "Oh, but I need to say

971

this," or, "I need to say that."

972

And so, like, she understands

pieces of it- Yes, yes … that

973

I've dropped in for her.

974

Yes.

975

But she's not like, "I'm a 5/1,

you know, emotional Generator."

976

She doesn't tell me that.

977

Yes.

978

But I also have pulled up all

of her friends, and it explains

979

why some of the, the tension has

happened, which is just crazy.

980

Isn't it crazy?

981

Yes.

982

Look, I did…

983

My h- m- my son dated, uh, this

lovely girl for a long time.

984

They, they did break up recently,

but they could end up getting

985

back together at some point.

986

And I've run theirs, and I…

987

It's so clear to see, like, what…

988

Like, she's a Manifestor.

989

Ooh.

990

And he would get so upset that

she wouldn't, like, inform…

991

I'm gonna use the word inform.

992

I'm using the word inform because

that's like, right, we know

993

that word for a Manifestor.

994

But like, I, I can…

995

Like, oh, she's not, she's not informing.

996

She's just going and

she's doing, and she…

997

But she's not communicating, right?

998

Mm-hmm.

999

So it's, that's part of it, right?

00:50:30,622 --> 00:50:35,492

The Manifestor needs to inform,

especially those that they

00:50:35,542 --> 00:50:36,492

care about and love, right?

00:50:36,542 --> 00:50:36,752

Yes.

00:50:37,222 --> 00:50:41,442

So it's just like, it's just so

fascinating to watch and observe.

00:50:41,462 --> 00:50:46,032

And it's, it is a relationship

game changer, there's no doubt.

00:50:46,042 --> 00:50:46,132

Oh,

00:50:46,132 --> 00:50:46,652

yes.

00:50:46,992 --> 00:50:47,352

Yeah.

00:50:47,362 --> 00:50:48,912

I, I can't- Yeah … imagine.

00:50:48,962 --> 00:50:53,732

Like, even when I meet people, I want

to know their design because I'm like, I

00:50:53,732 --> 00:50:57,252

want to know how I need to relate to you.

00:50:57,542 --> 00:51:02,032

Not because I can't be your friend,

but it helps me, whether or not I ask

00:51:02,032 --> 00:51:06,092

you yes or no questions, or whether

or not I give you more time, or-

00:51:06,422 --> 00:51:06,702

Yeah

00:51:06,842 --> 00:51:10,522

whether or not you're going to be giving

me unsolicited advice, and I'm gonna

00:51:10,522 --> 00:51:13,600

be like- This is something you can see.

00:51:13,700 --> 00:51:14,660

Tell me more.

00:51:14,770 --> 00:51:19,050

Like, my sister was a Projector

for, or is a Projector.

00:51:19,060 --> 00:51:25,640

For years, I was so angry bec- you

talk about kids fighting, like we

00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:31,070

fought like cats and dogs all through

middle school and high school because

00:51:31,070 --> 00:51:32,590

she could see something I couldn't.

00:51:33,010 --> 00:51:35,220

And even when I was starting my

business, she shared something, and I

00:51:35,220 --> 00:51:37,590

was like, "I haven't thought about that.

00:51:37,830 --> 00:51:39,000

Stop giving me advice."

00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,150

And then I found out she's a

Projector, and I was like, "Hmm, yes."

00:51:42,170 --> 00:51:45,060

And so now when I need

advice, I do ask her.

00:51:45,060 --> 00:51:46,510

I'm like, "So what are you seeing?"

00:51:47,070 --> 00:51:47,780

Yes.

00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:48,880

Yes.

00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,930

Oh, a- a 100%.

00:51:50,970 --> 00:51:53,010

It's, it's just, it's, it's incredible.

00:51:53,220 --> 00:51:53,670

Yes.

00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:54,400

It's incredible.

00:51:55,040 --> 00:52:00,610

Yeah, so if there is somebody listening

that you me- you mentioned the new era.

00:52:00,620 --> 00:52:03,640

I would love for you to just

talk shortly about the new era.

00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,460

Like, how is that-

Yeah … showing up for people?

00:52:06,490 --> 00:52:11,290

Because I don't know how many posts I see

on Substack or Instagram, and everybody's

00:52:11,300 --> 00:52:13,570

like, "Is there something going on?"

00:52:13,580 --> 00:52:17,710

Because everyb- everybody's feeling

it, but I don't think- Yeah … we

00:52:17,710 --> 00:52:21,090

quite understand, and we can't name it

because, I mean, we're seeing things

00:52:21,460 --> 00:52:23,200

crumble around us, and we're just…

00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,610

I think people are kind of freaking out.

00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:29,570

Yeah, and it's, it's one of those

things, like you don't even have to know

00:52:29,570 --> 00:52:35,670

human design or anything to just know

that there's collective energy, right?

00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:36,030

There's…

00:52:36,550 --> 00:52:38,210

It's, it's…

00:52:38,260 --> 00:52:42,190

If you just look at something as simple

as the stock market, the stock market

00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:50,112

is literally- is just about emotional

waves of the collective, is all it is.

00:52:50,122 --> 00:52:50,152

Uh-huh.

00:52:50,182 --> 00:52:51,502

There's nothing else behind it.

00:52:51,692 --> 00:52:57,202

It is literally, right, like human

beings, like in waves, right?

00:52:57,202 --> 00:52:58,632

Like is it a bear market, a bull market?

00:52:58,632 --> 00:53:00,562

Well, it's like it's the waves.

00:53:00,582 --> 00:53:06,672

It's tied to the, the, the background

frequency of the collective, right?

00:53:06,682 --> 00:53:08,472

Just like that energy we're all in.

00:53:09,022 --> 00:53:13,672

And so if you think about it, if

you just look back across history,

00:53:13,852 --> 00:53:15,792

there's just different times.

00:53:15,792 --> 00:53:18,922

I mean we even say the

medieval times, right?

00:53:18,922 --> 00:53:28,252

There are different eras and swaths of

time where certain beliefs or philosophies

00:53:28,282 --> 00:53:32,292

or, you know, like things were happening.

00:53:32,342 --> 00:53:35,192

I mean there was a time of exploration.

00:53:35,202 --> 00:53:35,802

I mean on…

00:53:35,812 --> 00:53:38,122

some of it not good in what

happened, but like there was…

00:53:38,322 --> 00:53:38,962

Like it's…

00:53:39,012 --> 00:53:42,712

There was different waves and different

things happening, and in human design

00:53:43,162 --> 00:53:47,322

we can actually look back and we can

look at the actual background frequency

00:53:47,352 --> 00:53:49,382

of the transits during those waves.

00:53:49,382 --> 00:53:51,552

Remember we did this inside

of the- Yes … program?

00:53:51,552 --> 00:53:52,302

Like it was…

00:53:52,912 --> 00:53:56,712

I was nerding out- Mind-blowing

… because I was like a history minor, and

00:53:56,712 --> 00:54:03,942

like to actually see the trends in history

tied to the actual background frequency in

00:54:03,942 --> 00:54:06,162

the different eras was like mind-blowing.

00:54:06,752 --> 00:54:12,132

And we are i- we are living in a, I, I

like to think actually a really cool time.

00:54:12,492 --> 00:54:13,972

It- it's all perspective, right?

00:54:13,972 --> 00:54:16,432

You could look at it as like a

horrible time or an amazing time.

00:54:16,452 --> 00:54:19,842

I look at it as an amazing time

because most humans don't get to

00:54:19,842 --> 00:54:23,582

live in a time of a major era shift.

00:54:23,852 --> 00:54:24,212

Mm-hmm.

00:54:24,492 --> 00:54:25,272

And we are.

00:54:25,272 --> 00:54:26,682

00:54:26,692 --> 00:54:31,492

We've been in the last 400 years,

00:54:31,492 --> 00:54:35,582

just think of the plight of women

00:54:35,652 --> 00:54:37,812

in this very country, on

this very land, right?

00:54:37,812 --> 00:54:39,022

Like it's like wha…

00:54:39,392 --> 00:54:43,932

Like it's just mind-boggling, and

here we're going into this new era,

00:54:44,592 --> 00:54:49,732

and the, the new era, and it's why

it's shaking everything up, is it's

00:54:49,742 --> 00:54:55,012

moving us away from having outside

authorities decide everything for

00:54:55,012 --> 00:55:00,012

us, whether it's school, government,

healthcare, how marriage should be.

00:55:00,012 --> 00:55:01,132

All the, all the things, right?

00:55:01,132 --> 00:55:07,192

Like all the, the structures and systems

and institutions and, uh, things that

00:55:07,192 --> 00:55:12,232

have been pr- built and progressed over

the last 400 years, now it's at a tipping

00:55:12,232 --> 00:55:20,022

point, and the new era frequency is all

about individual authority, intuition,

00:55:20,522 --> 00:55:24,896

individual empowerment- rethinking, right?

00:55:24,906 --> 00:55:26,736

Who we're listening to, right?

00:55:26,746 --> 00:55:28,876

Who we're taking advice from.

00:55:28,876 --> 00:55:33,826

Now we wanna take advice from people that

are just embodying what we want, right?

00:55:33,826 --> 00:55:38,996

I shared watching Bob at 87 still

working and loving what he does.

00:55:38,996 --> 00:55:43,816

Like, to me, that was like, I,

I so put him on a pedestal and,

00:55:43,816 --> 00:55:47,766

like, really learned so much from

him because he was walking the

00:55:47,766 --> 00:55:49,506

walk, and that's what we want now.

00:55:49,506 --> 00:55:52,046

We don't want the person

that knows the most.

00:55:52,296 --> 00:55:56,256

We want the person that's living

the life that we wanna live, right?

00:55:56,486 --> 00:56:04,176

We are moving into a time where what we

do for work, requ- everyone's questioning

00:56:04,176 --> 00:56:05,776

what they do for work now, right?

00:56:05,886 --> 00:56:05,986

Yes.

00:56:06,066 --> 00:56:08,666

Um, the pandemic helped

shift that along, right?

00:56:08,666 --> 00:56:10,186

But that's why these things happen.

00:56:10,186 --> 00:56:13,536

I'm telling you, it's, like, crazy,

like the, the, the waves of time.

00:56:13,996 --> 00:56:17,416

And th- this, this shifts, and what's

gonna happen is you're gonna have

00:56:17,416 --> 00:56:22,026

some people gonna dig their heels in-

Mm-hmm … to the way things were, right?

00:56:22,456 --> 00:56:24,656

And then you're gonna have the

people that are like, "No, but

00:56:24,656 --> 00:56:29,526

there's freedom going this way,"

and, and it's a new era, new times.

00:56:29,886 --> 00:56:33,566

And so that inherently is gonna

cause conflict, inherently is

00:56:33,566 --> 00:56:36,596

gonna cause conflict with people

that are digging their heels in.

00:56:36,596 --> 00:56:38,556

And you can see it everywhere online.

00:56:39,066 --> 00:56:39,476

Uh-huh.

00:56:39,766 --> 00:56:40,456

You can see it everywhere.

00:56:40,456 --> 00:56:43,606

I mean, I, I think about homes- I think

homeschooling and healthcare are such

00:56:43,626 --> 00:56:45,716

perfect examples of this happening.

00:56:46,596 --> 00:56:51,896

It was not that long ago that nobody

homeschooled, and if you homeschooled,

00:56:52,366 --> 00:56:54,366

I mean, one, people were like, "What?

00:56:54,386 --> 00:56:54,936

That's weird."

00:56:54,936 --> 00:56:55,966

There were no resources.

00:56:55,966 --> 00:56:59,286

I mean, it was so outlier, right?

00:56:59,286 --> 00:56:59,806

Mm-hmm.

00:56:59,806 --> 00:57:03,676

Um, holistic medicine or getting

multiple opinions or having different…

00:57:03,726 --> 00:57:06,706

a whole bunch of different doctors

for different things or being, like,

00:57:06,766 --> 00:57:13,950

so, um, knowledgeable yourself about

your own health th- they were weirdos.

00:57:14,630 --> 00:57:14,860

They were quacks.

00:57:14,860 --> 00:57:16,900

They were n- that was

an outlier too, right?

00:57:17,130 --> 00:57:21,490

Now it's becoming so much more normal.

00:57:22,030 --> 00:57:22,510

Mm-hmm.

00:57:22,510 --> 00:57:22,970

Right?

00:57:22,970 --> 00:57:25,580

Like, I'm using air quotes

"normal" because what's happening

00:57:25,580 --> 00:57:28,340

is, is that there's this huge

shift that's happening, right?

00:57:28,340 --> 00:57:33,670

And so this idea that we would just

trust this one doctor knows what's best

00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:38,580

for us almost sounds absurd now, but

it wasn't not that long ago, right?

00:57:38,580 --> 00:57:38,910

Yeah.

00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,060

School, it's like, no, you go

to the school in your town.

00:57:41,060 --> 00:57:41,760

I mean, that's what you do.

00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,040

Like, there's nothing, there's

no other options, right?

00:57:44,300 --> 00:57:51,120

So we're seeing it all around us, and

what it's gonna take is for each of

00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:56,130

us to really get to know ourselves a

whole lot better and really asking the

00:57:56,140 --> 00:57:57,830

questions of, "Well, what do I want?

00:57:57,830 --> 00:57:58,690

What do I think?

00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,480

What, you know, where do

I wanna spend my time?

00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:02,950

How do I wanna live my life?"

00:58:02,970 --> 00:58:07,900

And, and it's gonna be potentially

different than, you know, how

00:58:07,900 --> 00:58:11,300

society conditioned us all

that, all those centuries.

00:58:11,690 --> 00:58:12,300

Yes.

00:58:12,350 --> 00:58:12,670

Yes.

00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:18,490

And I f- I'm, I think it's gonna be so

cool to see kids who are coming of age at

00:58:18,490 --> 00:58:26,040

this time, to see how things are different

for them, especially those kids that…

00:58:26,580 --> 00:58:31,720

My daughter's 12, and I know your son's

12, and, like, I, I feel like there's

00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:36,514

gonna be, they're gonna be the ones

that are gonna- something, we're gonna

00:58:36,514 --> 00:58:40,274

see something completely different

from them than the- Agreed … you

00:58:40,474 --> 00:58:46,394

go to, you know, get your education,

maybe go to college, have a job.

00:58:46,424 --> 00:58:49,014

Like, I think they're gonna be the

ones who are gonna start, we're gonna

00:58:49,014 --> 00:58:50,524

start to see something different.

00:58:50,894 --> 00:58:52,594

I'm here for it, to be honest.

00:58:52,704 --> 00:58:53,764

I really am.

00:58:53,794 --> 00:58:58,534

Like, I, I, I even started with my son

who, you know, Jack, who is in college

00:58:58,544 --> 00:59:00,274

now, he's about to graduate this year.

00:59:00,604 --> 00:59:03,874

I told him from the very beginning, I'm

like, "You do not have to go to college."

00:59:04,054 --> 00:59:06,034

Like, he's just this

entrepreneurial spirit.

00:59:06,034 --> 00:59:06,344

I mean, you look…

00:59:06,394 --> 00:59:09,154

I, I, I was saying that to him

before I looked at his design, right?

00:59:09,154 --> 00:59:10,604

And then I looked at his

design, I'm like, oh, like…

00:59:10,934 --> 00:59:14,664

And he just, he decided on his own

accord that he wanted to play football,

00:59:14,664 --> 00:59:17,204

and it was this whole thing, but

which the football piece and that

00:59:17,204 --> 00:59:20,704

competitiveness is literally, he's

00:59:20,764 --> 00:59:23,084

So I just, like, he…

00:59:23,104 --> 00:59:24,964

But he had, he knew he had the option.

00:59:25,614 --> 00:59:28,014

And same thing for my little guy.

00:59:28,014 --> 00:59:29,564

Like, I, I, that was never…

00:59:29,634 --> 00:59:31,244

It was like, "You go to college."

00:59:31,244 --> 00:59:34,724

Like, there was like- Uh-huh … there was

no discussing it, you know, growing up.

00:59:34,724 --> 00:59:36,584

And so I do, I agree with you.

00:59:36,584 --> 00:59:42,904

I think that that generation is going

to start actually opening new doors, new

00:59:42,904 --> 00:59:45,644

ideas, new ways in which things can be.

00:59:45,664 --> 00:59:49,534

And I, I, like I said, I'm, I'm

here to see how it all plays out.

00:59:50,264 --> 00:59:53,414

I, I remember hearing about the

new era when I first started

00:59:53,414 --> 00:59:57,934

I was like, "That's so far away."

00:59:58,174 --> 00:59:58,694

And here we are.

00:59:59,044 --> 01:00:02,504

And n- now here we are,

and I'm like, holy crap.

01:00:03,354 --> 01:00:04,494

Put your seat belts on.

01:00:04,494 --> 01:00:04,744

We can see it, right?

01:00:04,744 --> 01:00:06,964

We're in, we're in the middle of it.

01:00:07,034 --> 01:00:10,934

Like, rollercoaster, we

are going up, and- Oh,

01:00:10,934 --> 01:00:11,224

yeah

01:00:11,434 --> 01:00:14,074

… I don't know where the peak's

gonna be, but, like, we're gonna

01:00:14,074 --> 01:00:15,324

have to be along for the ride.

01:00:15,514 --> 01:00:15,534

Yeah.

01:00:15,604 --> 01:00:17,494

Otherwise, we're gonna dead, be dead.

01:00:17,544 --> 01:00:17,664

And you know

01:00:17,664 --> 01:00:17,954

what?

01:00:18,014 --> 01:00:18,894

We gotta, we gotta lead.

01:00:19,464 --> 01:00:19,864

Yes.

01:00:19,924 --> 01:00:24,634

I think that's the, the key, is we have

to lead in our lane, and that doing that