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ITALKSPORTS Episode. 42: NFL Season Kickoff - Is Herbert Elite? Ravens’ Flop. The Case For Burrow
Episode 429th September 2025 • ITALKSPORTS • Mukundi
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The commencement of the NFL season has precipitated a plethora of discussions surrounding the performances of various teams and quarterbacks. Notably, the Philadelphia Eagles triumphed over the Dallas Cowboys, reaffirming their formidable status in the league, while the Los Angeles Chargers achieved a significant victory against the Kansas City Chiefs, a game that underscored the potential of quarterback Justin Herbert. Despite his impressive capabilities, Herbert finds himself at a pivotal juncture, as playoff success eludes him, raising questions about his elite status among quarterbacks. Furthermore, the Baltimore Ravens suffered a disheartening defeat to the Buffalo Bills in a game they were expected to win, a recurring theme that has plagued the Ravens in recent seasons. Lastly, I reflect on the Cincinnati Bengals, whose star quarterback, Joe Burrow, continues to grapple with the challenges of an underperforming defense, leaving the team without playoff appearances for two consecutive years.

Takeaways:

  • The NFL season commenced with notable victories, including the Eagles defeating the Cowboys.
  • Justin Herbert's performance raises questions about his status as an elite quarterback, given his playoff challenges.
  • The Ravens' unexpected loss to the Bills highlights their recurring issue of underperforming in critical games.
  • Joe Burrow and the Bengals face significant challenges, particularly regarding their defensive weaknesses.
  • Despite being a highly regarded quarterback, Joe Burrow's playoff success remains elusive, impacting his legacy.
  • The podcast emphasizes the importance of playoff success in evaluating a quarterback's greatness.

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Speaker A:

Football's back, bro.

Speaker A:

Football's back.

Speaker A:

And we are live.

Speaker A:

We are.

Speaker A:

Does that make sense?

Speaker A:

Isn't this the Ravens defense?

Speaker A:

All world, Isn't this the Ravens offense?

Speaker A:

Oh, world, you got Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, Mark Andrews, you got Isaiah Likely on the other side.

Speaker A:

What happened 2.

Speaker A:

Two years back to back.

Speaker A:

Joe Burrow, back to back years without making the playoffs, let alone the Super Bowl.

Speaker A:

The playoffs.

Speaker A:

And you are always revered.

Speaker B:

And I owe an official apology to everybody for our bad takes about.

Speaker A:

Hey, first of.

Speaker B:

There weren't bad takes.

Speaker B:

They were just wrong.

Speaker A:

Educated.

Speaker B:

They were educated.

Speaker A:

Educated, but they were not correct.

Speaker A:

And when I was build a resume as an elite quarterback by missing the playoffs, did I lie?

Speaker A:

You can't build an elite resume, period.

Speaker A:

Not just as a quarterback, but period.

Speaker A:

Microphone check, 1, 2, 1, 2.

Speaker A:

What's good?

Speaker A:

What's good?

Speaker A:

What's good?

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker A:

I am rejuvenated.

Speaker A:

I am back.

Speaker A:

What's good?

Speaker A:

Did you miss me?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

First of all, tell me how you like my cut.

Speaker A:

I'll wait.

Speaker A:

You like my cut?

Speaker A:

I'm a. Zoom in.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna do that.

Speaker A:

Zoom in.

Speaker A:

So you can see, my barber is back in town, bro.

Speaker A:

And I couldn't be happier.

Speaker A:

Oh, my God.

Speaker A:

Oh, my God.

Speaker A:

I couldn't be happier.

Speaker A:

So my barber's back in town.

Speaker A:

And you know what that means.

Speaker A:

The boy is looking clean.

Speaker A:

Always for, like, at least another week, and then I have to go back to the pits.

Speaker A:

But besides that, I'm good, man.

Speaker A:

I can't.

Speaker A:

I can't complain.

Speaker A:

I've missed you.

Speaker A:

How you been?

Speaker A:

You've been good?

Speaker A:

I've been good.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker A:

What's good?

Speaker A:

How you been?

Speaker B:

I've been good, man.

Speaker B:

The new football season, I mean, soccer season has started, child.

Speaker A:

The football season started.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I know.

Speaker B:

I just want to confuse you degenerates who mix the two.

Speaker B:

But anyway, okay, soccer season.

Speaker B:

Soccer season has started.

Speaker B:

It doesn't matter where Chelsea is first, second, third, fourth, or last, we're still the world champions.

Speaker B:

That's all I gotta say.

Speaker B:

And Manchester United is still an atrocity.

Speaker B:

And I owe an official apology to everybody for our bad takes.

Speaker B:

Hey, first of all, they weren't bad takes.

Speaker B:

They were just wrong.

Speaker A:

Educated.

Speaker A:

They were educated, but they were not correct.

Speaker B:

And when I was sort of watching that game, the first set, I was like, it's going to be Alcarazin 4.

Speaker B:

How I even put up a status saying a. I was going to watch.

Speaker A:

But then the Browns were playing the Bengals, and I was like, oh, yeah.

Speaker B:

And my Call to everybody who's watching the show.

Speaker B:

The NFL season started.

Speaker B:

Even if you have take an educated guess, pick an NFL team for yourself and just see how it goes.

Speaker B:

Except for the Pittsburgh Steelers, because we don't want to break this guy's heart.

Speaker A:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

Look at.

Speaker A:

You can pick any team.

Speaker A:

Any.

Speaker A:

Any team except the Steelers of Pittsburgh, please.

Speaker A:

I'll even let you choose the Giants of New York.

Speaker A:

Who's even there?

Speaker A:

Oh, Russell Wilson is the quarterback now.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker A:

Speaking of which.

Speaker A:

Football's back.

Speaker A:

Football's back.

Speaker B:

Football's back.

Speaker A:

Football's back, bro.

Speaker B:

What does that mean?

Speaker B:

What do we do?

Speaker A:

Still doing my thing.

Speaker A:

I'm still doing my thing.

Speaker A:

Let me cook.

Speaker A:

Football's back, bro.

Speaker A:

Football's back.

Speaker A:

And we are live.

Speaker A:

We are lit.

Speaker A:

All right, if you're not a fan of violence, get out of the chat.

Speaker A:

The same for you, bro.

Speaker A:

This is for everybody that loves violence.

Speaker A:

That means for the next 17.

Speaker A:

17 weeks, my friend, we are gonna watch 53 grown men go on the field and fight.

Speaker A:

Well, not fight, but go against 53 other grown men, and it'll be nothing but blood, sweat, and a lot of violence.

Speaker A:

We are ready for it.

Speaker A:

We are here.

Speaker A:

And you know what that means.

Speaker A:

Every Sunday from here on out.

Speaker A:

Phone is on, do not disturb.

Speaker A:

Girlfriend is on, do not disturb.

Speaker A:

Laptop is on.

Speaker A:

Do not disturb anything.

Speaker A:

And everything is on.

Speaker A:

Do not disturb.

Speaker A:

And before I even get too far, can I just say, how about them Cowboys?

Speaker A:

Yeah, how about them Cowboys?

Speaker A:

But I shouldn't be saying anything because as a Ravens fan, week one of the NFL season is done and dusted.

Speaker A:

We have winners, we have lost.

Speaker A:

We have winners, we have losers, we have surprises, and we have the greatest of plays.

Speaker A:

So let us start with opening night.

Speaker A:

They do not want to be called this, but I will call them that anyway, because it is the name God has given them.

Speaker A:

For the next 12 months, the reigning defending super bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles did what they do best, and they handed some hands.

Speaker A:

They handed some hands to the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker A:

How about them Cowboys?

Speaker A:

It's a great game, though.

Speaker A:

Good game.

Speaker A:

The Cowboys tried their thing, but at the end of the day, that offensive juggernaut that is the Eagles, even their defense played well.

Speaker A:

I'm not even gonna lie.

Speaker A:

Both defenses played well, which was surprising because Micah was not there.

Speaker A:

But I don't know.

Speaker A:

We shall see how it goes.

Speaker A:

And then from there, we had the.

Speaker A:

The atrocity on Saturday.

Speaker A:

Is it even an atrocity?

Speaker A:

I don't know.

Speaker A:

But on Saturday.

Speaker A:

Do I look nice now?

Speaker A:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

On Saturday, the Charges beat the Chiefs.

Speaker A:

I'm not here to talk about the Charges beating the Chiefs.

Speaker A:

I'm here to talk about the Chiefs losing to the Charges.

Speaker A:

That is what it is.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

The Chiefs are still a great team.

Speaker A:

However.

Speaker A:

They.

Speaker A:

Hey.

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They.

Speaker A:

Yo, yo.

Speaker A:

Hey.

Speaker A:

The Charges.

Speaker A:

The Charges handle their business.

Speaker A:

And with that, I am going on a two minute rant about one, Justin Herbert.

Speaker A:

Justin Herbert has been in the league for about five years now.

Speaker A:

Five, six years, actually.

Speaker A:

How long has Justin Herbert been in the league?

Speaker A:

Justin Herbert got drafted in 20.

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In:

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And he is 27 years old.

Speaker A:

Yes, yes,:

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Sorry, not:

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2020.

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With the sixth overall pick.

Speaker A:

He's a.

Speaker A:

He's the number six pick, first round.

Speaker A:

Justin Herbert is always in the talks for top 10 QBs in the league.

Speaker A:

He's on every list.

Speaker A:

We talk about the best quarterbacks in the league.

Speaker A:

Justin Herbert is always there.

Speaker A:

Justin Herbert has won a playoff game.

Speaker A:

Justin Herbert is him.

Speaker A:

He can ball.

Speaker A:

He's not a scrub.

Speaker A:

I'm not denying that.

Speaker A:

He's a Pro Bowler.

Speaker A:

He's an all pro.

Speaker A:

He's a proper quarterback, and he's the reason the Charges are even relevant.

Speaker A:

But once December arrives, once January arrives, it's like my boy forgets how to play football.

Speaker A:

He lost to Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker A:

Trevor Lawrence is a good player, but they had a crazy.

Speaker A:

I think it was like a 14, 21 point comeback in the playoffs against the Jackson.

Speaker A:

These dudes lost to the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Speaker A:

Have you ever heard of the Jacksonville Jaguars?

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker A:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

Then he lost to them.

Speaker A:

But it's fine.

Speaker A:

I will cut Justin Herbert some slack because that was the first game of the season, which he actually won.

Speaker A:

But I will not sit here and act like I am impressed.

Speaker A:

But every year I sit, every year I watch football and I tell myself, this is it.

Speaker A:

This is the season we do it.

Speaker A:

This is the season the Baltimore Ravens win the Super Bowl.

Speaker A:

The Lombardi Trophy.

Speaker A:

The Lombardi Trophy is what it's all about.

Speaker A:

And every year I sit and I say, the Ravens will finally win the Super Bowl.

Speaker A:

And every year, the Ravens don't even get to the Super Bowl.

Speaker A:

And it's always because the Ravens, somehow, some way, will find a way to beat themselves.

Speaker A:

Let's talk about last night's game, shall we?

Speaker A:

The Ravens were up 15 points in the 4th quarter.

Speaker A:

They lost that game.

Speaker A:

The Ravens were up 15 points in the fourth quarter.

Speaker A:

They were up 3 points with 2 minutes to go in the game.

Speaker A:

You just had to protect the football.

Speaker A:

You just had to keep it away from the bill's hands, make sure Josh Allen does not touch it.

Speaker A:

Josh Allen doesn't even have a wide receiver.

Speaker A:

1.

Speaker A:

Amari Cooper's res.

Speaker A:

Amari Cooper retired.

Speaker A:

Stefan Diggs is busy with Cardi B.

Speaker A:

And he hasn't even been on that team in two years.

Speaker A:

Now it's the Ravens lost a game they had to win.

Speaker A:

They lost 40, 41.

Speaker A:

What a great game.

Speaker A:

I will say great game.

Speaker A:

Left.

Speaker A:

Left me thoroughly entertained and thoroughly angered as well, because that comeback makes no sense.

Speaker A:

The Ravens once again were up 15 points in the fourth quarter.

Speaker A:

And I know you're probably thinking, yeah, so what was it, like a 30, 15 score?

Speaker A:

No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker A:

The Ravens at the start of the fourth quarter had 40 points and the Baltimore and the Buffalo Bills had 25 points.

Speaker A:

At the end of the game, the Ravens.

Speaker A:

Buffalo Bills had 41 points.

Speaker A:

So in 15 minutes, you couldn't get three points.

Speaker A:

All you needed was at least one point to make it count.

Speaker A:

But because it's football, we don't have that.

Speaker A:

So at least bare minimum field goal, three points is all we needed.

Speaker A:

And all you did was give up 16 of them.

Speaker A:

Does that make sense?

Speaker A:

Isn't this the Ravens defense?

Speaker A:

All World.

Speaker A:

Isn't this the Ravens offense?

Speaker A:

Oh, world.

Speaker A:

You got Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, Mark Andrews.

Speaker A:

You got Isaiah.

Speaker A:

Likely on the other side.

Speaker A:

What happened?

Speaker A:

You got Bateman.

Speaker A:

What happened?

Speaker A:

Fine.

Speaker A:

I'm not gonna sit here and be angry.

Speaker A:

The Ravens did that for me already.

Speaker A:

Ravens will still go to the super bowl because I have to be naive and say that.

Speaker A:

Do I see it happening?

Speaker A:

No, I do not.

Speaker A:

And I am thoroughly disappointed.

Speaker A:

Oh, man.

Speaker A:

N.J. is out here laughing and crying.

Speaker A:

You know what?

Speaker A:

It's fine.

Speaker A:

It's fine.

Speaker A:

It's fine.

Speaker A:

I.

Speaker A:

At least I.

Speaker A:

Man, let's talk.

Speaker A:

Let's.

Speaker A:

Let's talk about a game that I actually thought would entertain me.

Speaker A:

And it did.

Speaker A:

It did.

Speaker A:

Shout out.

Speaker A:

Shout out.

Speaker A:

The Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker A:

However, the Browns kicker is gonna.

Speaker A:

What's the Browns kicker's name?

Speaker A:

Actually?

Speaker A:

Kick.

Speaker A:

Kick.

Speaker A:

Kick.

Speaker A:

Kick.

Speaker A:

Kick.

Speaker A:

Receiving.

Speaker A:

Defense, special teams, kick.

Speaker A:

Ah, there we go.

Speaker A:

Smith.

Speaker A:

Whatever.

Speaker A:

Smith.

Speaker A:

How.

Speaker A:

How do you even pronounce that?

Speaker A:

Bro?

Speaker A:

S, Z, M, Y, T. Schmidt.

Speaker A:

Schmidt.

Speaker A:

Okay, I'm going too far now.

Speaker A:

Okay, so the Bengals beat the Browns in what was a very entertaining game.

Speaker A:

And I have to say, at 40 years old.

Speaker A:

At 40 years old, Joe Flacco might be one of the most consistent quarterbacks I've ever seen.

Speaker A:

Oh, by the way, Joe Flacco was the quarterback on that Ravens win.

Speaker A:

Team in:

Speaker A:

Shout out Joe Flacco:

Speaker A:

Of course he knows.

Speaker A:

So Joe Flacco is still very consistent at age 40 and that is why he still has a job in the NFL.

Speaker A:

He went:

Speaker A:

290 yards.

Speaker A:

Sorry.

Speaker A:

With one touchdown.

Speaker A:

Two interceptions.

Speaker A:

Sure it the interceptions are bad but Joe Flacco can still ball and I'm very impressed.

Speaker A:

However man he's going against Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and of course they did what they do with no touchdowns this time.

Speaker A:

But Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, that three headed monster will do great if if big if the Cincy defense comes to work.

Speaker A:

Last year Cincinnati had the most potent offense in the league.

Speaker A:

Joe Burrow would have been MVP if his team was winning.

Speaker A:

And this is where the chat now goes.

Speaker A:

Well I can only do so much as a quarterback.

Speaker A:

I can't stop the other guys.

Speaker A:

Joe Burrow was giving teams 35 a night last year.

Speaker A:

It's not his fault that his defense was giving up 40.

Speaker A:

If my quarterback were to give me 35 points a night, consistently, consistently give me 35 points a night.

Speaker A:

It is the, the onus is now on me as the defense.

Speaker A:

He's done his job.

Speaker A:

35 points from my quarterback every night.

Speaker A:

I'm not complaining.

Speaker A:

Those are points.

Speaker A:

Those are solid points.

Speaker A:

However, what's the point if every day, if every game you are giving up 40 and it's not like Joe Burrow can get on the.

Speaker A:

Can get on the field and do anything.

Speaker A:

He can't.

Speaker A:

That's why the defense exists.

Speaker A:

But his defense was non existent.

Speaker A:

That is why he had better numbers than Lamar and Josh Allen.

Speaker A:

But he was nowhere to be seen.

Speaker A:

Dude, Joe.

Speaker A:

Joe Burrow played his ass off last year and I want to see what's going to happen.

Speaker A:

Super bowl again.

Speaker A:

I don't see it but I would love to see the Bengals in the playoffs.

Speaker A:

I feel like football is so much better when the Bengals are in the playoffs and they need to do that.

Speaker A:

It's been two seasons.

Speaker A:

Two.

Speaker A:

Two years.

Speaker A:

Back to back Joe Burrow back to back years without making the playoffs, let alone the super bowl.

Speaker A:

The playoffs.

Speaker A:

And you are always revered.

Speaker A:

I am one of the people that revere Joe Burrow.

Speaker A:

I think he's a generational talent, one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

Speaker A:

You can name me five quarterbacks better than Joe Burrow.

Speaker A:

He has one more season before I get him.

Speaker A:

I take him off that list.

Speaker A:

It's enough.

Speaker A:

It's enough.

Speaker A:

You had a great super bowl run where you even beat the Chiefs.

Speaker A:

But besides that, what have you done?

Speaker A:

Sure, the year after they went to the AFC Championship game again where they went to lose to the Chiefs, but besides that, it's been missing the playoffs after missing the playoffs.

Speaker A:

You can't build a resume as an elite quarterback by missing the playoffs.

Speaker A:

Did I lie?

Speaker A:

You can't build an elite resume, period.

Speaker A:

Not just as a quarterback, but period.

Speaker A:

By not making the playoffs.

Speaker A:

The playoffs is where success is built.

Speaker A:

The playoffs is where we, we see that you really are who you say you are.

Speaker A:

Which is why I still do not have it on my.

Speaker A:

He's probably not even top 20 quarterbacks.

Speaker A:

He probably deserves to be, but I'll never put Lamar there.

Speaker A:

He hasn't even tasted a Super Bowl.

Speaker A:

Listen, I'm pretty sure I can't lay.

Speaker A:

I can't list 20 quarterbacks better than Lamar Jackson all time.

Speaker A:

I can't.

Speaker A:

But I don't want to.

Speaker A:

I don't want to.

Speaker A:

I'll put Joe Flacco over Lamar.

Speaker A:

Okay, maybe that's a bit.

Speaker A:

But you get what I'm saying, right?

Speaker A:

You have to win in the playoffs.

Speaker A:

You have to do something in the playoffs.

Speaker A:

I was disappointed that Joe Flat.

Speaker A:

I knew we knew this, that Joe Flacco would start, but at some point I had hoped to see Shoulder go against Joe Burrow because I think that would have been a great young matchup.

Speaker A:

But it does not matter because we will see what goes on.

Speaker A:

And after that, I'm really curious, man.

Speaker A:

I've noticed that the league is doing this thing where the reigning award winners have gold patches on their uniform as opposed to the regular NFL patch like everybody else.

Speaker A:

That's for the MVP and all the players of the year's defensive rookie.

Speaker A:

Defensive rookies or whatever, all that.

Speaker A:

I think that's pretty cool.

Speaker A:

But that got me asking, who is going to be our MVP this season?

Speaker A:

Josh Allen is not going back to back.

Speaker A:

You can book me on that.

Speaker A:

Lamar is not winning the mvp.

Speaker A:

He probably will put up MVP numbers.

Speaker A:

But we're tired.

Speaker A:

We are.

Speaker A:

And I say we.

Speaker A:

But me, I'm tired.

Speaker A:

Me, I'm tired.

Speaker A:

At some point, stop chasing MVPs.

Speaker A:

And I'm not saying he's chasing MVPs, but at some point, when will we stop caring?

Speaker A:

You have two of them already.

Speaker A:

You haven't even sniffed a Super bowl.

Speaker A:

You've got two MVPs with zero Super bowl appearances.

Speaker A:

Do you realize there's no other quarterback In NFL history, with that kind of resume, every quarterback that has at least two MVPs has either been to a Super bowl or won one.

Speaker A:

The last thing I want is for Lamar to be a Dan Marino.

Speaker A:

And we love Dan Marino, but it don't mean a thing with no ring.

Speaker A:

And there's the problem.

Speaker A:

So I want you to tell me next episode when I come here, I will see your comments.

Speaker A:

Tell me who you think is going to be the MVP this year.

Speaker A:

Tell me who you think is going to be the offensive player of the year, defensive player of the year, and of course, who is winning the Super Bowl.

Speaker A:

I hope the Lions some way somehow get to the Super Bowl.

Speaker A:

I'm tired of seeing the same teams in the Super Bowl.

Speaker A:

But what happened to the Lions last night?

Speaker A:

Losing.

Speaker A:

Losing bad.

Speaker A:

What was that line?

Speaker A:

Score.

Speaker A:

Sorry, I have to tell you this.

Speaker A:

They lost to the Packers:

Speaker A:

And of course Jordan Love is the quarterback.

Speaker A:

But we shall see.

Speaker A:

The.

Speaker A:

The Lions are still the Lions.

Speaker A:

They were handing everybody tickets last year and it just so happens that they got injured at the worst time and the whole team blew up.

Speaker A:

But we are done.

Speaker A:

But there's a game I want us to talk about and then I'll leave because I couldn't believe this.

Speaker A:

This is a score.

Speaker A:

The Miami Dolphins.

Speaker A:

Miami Dolphins played the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker A:

The Colts.

Speaker A:

Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker A:

The Colts of Indianapolis Indiana.

Speaker A:

You want me to say that they played the Colts, the Dolphins played the Colts and this was the score.

Speaker A:

I can't believe it.

Speaker A:

I'm almost scared to say it out loud.

Speaker A:

The Indianapolis Colts had 33 points to end the game.

Speaker A:

The Dolphins had eight.

Speaker A:

In a professional football game, the Dolphins had eight points to the Colts 33.

Speaker A:

And that is our blowout of the week.

Speaker A:

Makes no sense, but here we are.

Speaker A:

What you got for me, bro?

Speaker B:

How did the 49ers do?

Speaker B:

I'm just assessing 49ers.

Speaker A:

Actually, let me check.

Speaker A:

Let me check for you.

Speaker A:

Sorry, I forgot about.

Speaker A:

About the 49ers.

Speaker A:

Oh, they beat Seattle.

Speaker A:

Shout out.

Speaker A:

Oh, I didn't watch that game.

Speaker B:

Oh, okay.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Why is it that we place so much emphasis on playoff success?

Speaker B:

Where we write off the regular season success.

Speaker B:

Mr. Mr. Boro.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker A:

When you.

Speaker B:

What's his name?

Speaker A:

Joe Burrow.

Speaker B:

Joe Barrow.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Generational talent.

Speaker A:

Would you agree?

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Top 10 quarterback.

Speaker B:

Would you not agree?

Speaker A:

Top five.

Speaker B:

Top five quarterback.

Speaker A:

Right now, Live.

Speaker B:

Right now.

Speaker A:

Live right now.

Speaker A:

In real time, right now.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Who is a quarterback that's worse than him?

Speaker B:

Like far worse.

Speaker B:

Like Kwame Brown, type Of worse.

Speaker A:

Like Teddy Bridgewater.

Speaker B:

Okay, Teddy goes on to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker B:

Is he a better quarterback than Joe Burrow?

Speaker A:

That's not fair.

Speaker A:

Why is that not fair?

Speaker A:

Because standards are different.

Speaker B:

How the standards different.

Speaker A:

Standards are different.

Speaker A:

How the style is different.

Speaker A:

Because if Teddy Bridgewater wins a Super bowl, it will be a miracle.

Speaker A:

We don't expect him to.

Speaker B:

Oh, so the world is expect.

Speaker B:

You have expectations.

Speaker A:

Expectations go with standards.

Speaker B:

No, they do.

Speaker A:

Exactly.

Speaker B:

They do.

Speaker A:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

So I'm not.

Speaker A:

The thing is, we're not asking for the impossible.

Speaker A:

We not what we're asking for.

Speaker B:

What do you want from the man?

Speaker A:

What I want from the man is playoff success.

Speaker A:

Doesn't always have to be a Super Bowl.

Speaker A:

Success doesn't always have to be a Super Bowl.

Speaker A:

But do you go deep in the playoffs, at least consistently?

Speaker A:

And that's championship game, you know, second round.

Speaker A:

But in the NFL, you can get a bye week, so you can get to the second round by default.

Speaker A:

But, like, you know, is he.

Speaker B:

Is he.

Speaker B:

Is he failing in the playoffs?

Speaker B:

Is that his fault solely, or is this a team that he's on?

Speaker A:

It's the team that he's on.

Speaker A:

Like I said, he's Putting up points.

Speaker A:

35.

Speaker A:

Like him and Jamar Chase were the best duo offensively.

Speaker A:

They're the best duo in the league last year.

Speaker A:

However, when you have a generationally bad defense and a generationally great offense, you still.

Speaker A:

You will still lose the game.

Speaker B:

So what do you want?

Speaker B:

What do you want the man to do in the system that he's in?

Speaker A:

Leave.

Speaker A:

No, not leave.

Speaker A:

He's influential enough to get.

Speaker A:

To get the team, to build a solid team around him.

Speaker A:

Don't forget he's a superstar.

Speaker A:

And as a superstar, you have a bit more control.

Speaker A:

Sure, we.

Speaker A:

If we see that his team is just against him, fine.

Speaker A:

But we know that as superstars, you can go to your managers, you can go to the team and be like, yo, yo, dog, let's trade this boy.

Speaker A:

Let's trade this dude.

Speaker A:

How about we try to get him?

Speaker A:

How about we try to get him and then make it work?

Speaker B:

So what has that got to do with what you're doing on the field?

Speaker A:

What he's doing on the field?

Speaker A:

I never said anything about what he's doing on the field.

Speaker A:

I was advocating for him.

Speaker A:

He's putting up four.

Speaker A:

He's putting up 35 every game on the field.

Speaker A:

He does nothing wrong.

Speaker A:

Even I know that.

Speaker A:

However, off the field, is he galvanizing the troops?

Speaker A:

Is he talking to his defense?

Speaker A:

Is he telling?

Speaker A:

Is he talking to the coaches and the.

Speaker A:

And the front management to do something about this roster that is clearly too.

Speaker B:

Much of the man he has seen.

Speaker B:

Way too much of a man.

Speaker A:

Am I?

Speaker B:

He's a quarterback, not a gm.

Speaker A:

He's a quarterback.

Speaker B:

That's it.

Speaker A:

He's a quarterback.

Speaker A:

Do you know how much influence quarterbacks have, especially quarterbacks of his caliber, of the field, quarterbacks of history.

Speaker A:

Let's not act like there's no politics in sports.

Speaker B:

Anyway, Josh Allen is going back to back for MVP.

Speaker B:

That's my call.

Speaker A:

So that was episode 43.

Speaker A:

Actually, could be 42, because we recorded that.

Speaker A:

We recorded the special.

Speaker A:

We have a special.

Speaker A:

Actually, the special is not going to count to the episode count.

Speaker A:

So that's a special.

Speaker A:

So we'll say this was episode 42.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that was episode 42.

Speaker A:

And that was a lot of fun.

Speaker A:

I'm glad.

Speaker A:

I hope you enjoyed it.

Speaker A:

And we will talk football again next week.

Speaker A:

But I want to come back on Friday and talk about ufc because I think it's foul that Kyle Brahal you lost to Nasuddin Imavov, which makes Nasodin Imavov the number one middleweight contender now.

Speaker A:

Well, not.

Speaker A:

Not on the rankings, but you get what I'm saying.

Speaker A:

That's a conversation we'll have.

Speaker A:

Until then, on another day.

Speaker A:

Until then, just sit back, relax, enjoy, enjoy the sports, man.

Speaker A:

Be nice to your mother.

Speaker A:

And as always, till next, time for the violence.

Speaker B:

How about the Ravens?

Speaker A:

How about that?

Speaker A:

You can see by the way that we flex.

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