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If you've ever gone to the emergency room begging to be prescribed Loratab or Oxycodone, or if you've ever gone painkiller drug dealer shopping just to not have pain on your period, this episode is for you.
OhmBody's technology helps the body remember what safety feels like using gentle neurostimulation to calm the nervous system and reconnect you to your own rhythm. It's not about numbing pain. It is about retraining your body to trust itself again.
In this conversation we're going deep into opioids, trauma, blood loss, and the nervous system. And what happens when we stop overriding our biology and we actually start listening to it.
Amy Gaston drives strategic growth and brand visibility at OhmBody. Leading partnerships, advocacy, and public relations. While serving as the company's public face, a proven entrepreneur and former director of experiential marketing at Magnolia, she brings extensive experience in building businesses, revitalizing event strategies post COVID and developing marketing campaigns that elevate brand engagement across sectors outside of work. She fuels her competitive spirit on the tennis court, supports her community as a nonprofit board member, and explores the world with her husband.
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✅CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
06:27 The Birth of OhmBody
7:03 Spark Biomedical and Neurostimulation
09:19 Von Willebrand Pilot Study
19:03 Ovulation + Luteal Art Piece
21:27 The Science Behind OhmBody
29:03 Addressing Skepticism - Research + Money Back Guarantee
32:25 Adolescent Girls Menstrual Study
34:00 Pain + Healing Resources
35:24 OhmBody Usage Demo
40:55 Customizable Treatment for Menstrual Pain
47:19 Biohacking with Art - OhmBody Oil Painting
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Transcripts
We had a user who came back to us and said, Within 10 minutes, I felt happy.
Speaker A:And she, like, questions.
Speaker A:I don't know how to explain that.
Speaker A:And that's just that balancing of the autonomic nervous system.
Speaker A:Because when you're balanced, when your tones are balanced, your body is.
Speaker A:Will feel good.
Speaker A:And I think so many women during their period are like, oh, I forgot what it felt like to feel.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:It is wild, but it's.
Speaker B:It's so true.
Speaker B:You don't even realize.
Speaker C:And when you start even attempting to.
Speaker B:Go on the healing journey inside yourself, I didn't even know that I could have this much energy.
Speaker B:I didn't know that.
Speaker B:I didn't even know it was an option on the menu until you experience it.
Speaker B:And then you're like, oh, shit.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:How did I even function with being shitty, being my normal?
Speaker B:Like, because it's just part of being a woman.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:And so that's part of our.
Speaker A:What we're on a journey of, is educating women that what they're experiencing doesn't have to be that way.
Speaker A:Even with my best girlfriend, they're like, oh, I mean, my pants, not that bad.
Speaker A:I cramp.
Speaker A:But, like, I mean, it's for like a day.
Speaker A:I'm like, but wouldn't it be nice not to cramp at all?
Speaker A:Why are we accepting that cramping is a normal part of being a woman?
Speaker A:And I say this a lot.
Speaker A:If men bled from their penises, we'd already have a cure.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Like, we would already.
Speaker A:Or they'd have paid leave every time they menstruated.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Holiday.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, like, truly.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker A:But for women, we've been told for so long this is a part of the experience, and we've convinced ourselves that we deserve less than feeling great.
Speaker A:And I think part of our mission at ownbody is these types of conversations of like, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker A:You deserve to feel great.
Speaker A:Even through menstruation, you deserve to feel better again.
Speaker A:We have how many drugs for ED immediately for.
Speaker A:But we.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:But the best we can do for women with endometriosis is surgery.
Speaker A:Why is that?
Speaker A:Why is that the option?
Speaker A:And we're not a niche market.
Speaker A:Half the world's population is not niche, guys.
Speaker A:So we got to have this conversation, be willing to come to the forefront and say, enough is enough.
Speaker A:And how do we get better?
Speaker C:It's a bloody good conversation today with zero period pain, as I am chatting with Amy Gaston of OM Body, a company Turning pain into power using bioelectric medicine.
Speaker B:So if you've ever gone to the.
Speaker C:Emergency room begging to be prescribed Loretab or oxycodone, or if you've ever gone painkiller drug dealer shopping just to not have pain on your period, this episode is for you own body's technology helps the body remember what safety feed feels like, using gentle neurostimulation to calm the nervous system and reconnect you to your own rhythm.
Speaker C:It's not about numbing pain.
Speaker C:It's about retraining your body to trust itself again.
Speaker C:In this conversation, we're going deep into.
Speaker B:Opioids, trauma, blood loss and the nervous system.
Speaker C:And what happens when we stop overriding our biology and we actually start listening to it.
Speaker C:Amy Gaston drives strategic growth and brand visibility at ownbody, leading partnerships, advocacy and public relations while serving as the company's public face.
Speaker C:A proven entrepreneur and former director of experiential marketing at Magnolia, she brings extensive experience in building businesses, revitalizing event strategies, post Covid and developing marketing campaigns that elevate brand engagement across sectors outside of work.
Speaker C:She fuels her competitive spirit on the tennis court, supports her community as a nonprofit board member, and explores the world with her husband.
Speaker B:October's probably my favorite month.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker B:Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker B:I relate it to luteal phase, which is my favorite phase.
Speaker B:Well, yeah.
Speaker B:Was it before?
Speaker B:I did a lot of healing, but known as the bitch phase.
Speaker B:But I just really.
Speaker B:It's the getting shit done.
Speaker B:Getting shit done phase, which some people say, oh, she's getting shit done.
Speaker B:Oh, she's a bitch.
Speaker B:That's another story.
Speaker A:Yeah, I had some very similar experience to that.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:As an enneagram 8 a firstborn daughter, highly driven, highly focused.
Speaker A:Yeah, I get a lot of.
Speaker A:She's kind of bitchy.
Speaker A:I'm like, I just get shit done.
Speaker A:Buckhouse Walker.
Speaker A:I'm very focused when I go.
Speaker A:For sure.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And listen, there's a way to get shit done and assert yourself and boundaries without being an asshole.
Speaker B:And it's.
Speaker B:I think people now, when you're okay with being disliked, they're afraid of that.
Speaker B:And that is what adds to this fear of ludal phase boundaries.
Speaker A:That's a little intimidating.
Speaker A:For sure.
Speaker A:I try to live by firm but kind.
Speaker B:Exactly, exactly.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And I actually.
Speaker B:This is so freaking appropriate that we are chatting today.
Speaker B:It's a bloody good day to chat because it's the first day of my cycle.
Speaker A:Okay, great.
Speaker A:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker A:We gotta get to know Bonnie.
Speaker B:I cannot wait to.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:To try that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And yeah to experience this because it's just.
Speaker B:It's so incredible.
Speaker B:Not only the origins of own body because I. I'm from the era where you had to beg the doctor or go to the emergency room just to get any kind of pain relief that even touched the period pain like emergency room level.
Speaker B:And then you get the oxycodone, then you get the Loratab or whatever which of course we all know has other effects on your body.
Speaker B:But because of the abuse and the whole world around that you're locked in.
Speaker B:You can't be prescribed that really at least anymore.
Speaker B:At least I couldn't get it.
Speaker B:So it really just took me dying, going to the emergency room and having.
Speaker A:To convince another ER doctor that you weren't making it up or drug hunting.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But you weren't trying willing to.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That you weren't trying to pill Chase and.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I think for us it's really one of those moments where we hear stories like that and we know when our device has the ability to deal and it just that more focus to ensure everyone knows about what we're doing.
Speaker B:Yes, it is so needed and that's really where I'd like to start.
Speaker B:We talk about facing our shit as you know.
Speaker B:So what was that space your shit kind of moment for own body?
Speaker B:I know we chatted a little bit about it with the origins Spark Biomedical using neurostimulation to help people with that opioid withdrawal.
Speaker B:Can you share a little bit about how that journey led to the creation of own body?
Speaker A:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker A:1 thanks for having me Mar.
Speaker A:This is a conversation I've been very excited since we met previously and yeah Spark brand medical to your point.
Speaker A:We have an FDA cleared device in opioid withdrawal management to help individuals.
Speaker A:When you're withdrawing through opioids you're in a hyper fight or flight state.
Speaker A:Our neurostimulator allows people to balance their autonomic nervous system so that they can withdraw in a more relaxed state so they're not actually physically fighting themselves in the withdrawal.
Speaker A: So that work began in: Speaker A:One was during doing work in vagus nerve stimulation.
Speaker A:One was during work in trigeminal nerve stimulation.
Speaker A:They were like hey can we put these together?
Speaker A:What kind of effects could we have?
Speaker A:So out of that was born biomedical and Sparrow which is our our other side of the house in terms of stress management and that withdrawal.
Speaker A:Then they began to see some interesting things happening to platelets.
Speaker A:And so they went and licensed out from the Feinstein Institute.
Speaker A:20 years of research in the neural tourniquet and this idea of regulating blood loss and platelet patterns and different things.
Speaker A:So we license that technology and applied it to our tech in the case of traumatic blood loss and traumatic bleeding, whether through surgical trauma or from injury trauma.
Speaker A:And then obviously bleeding disorders.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:Because people with bleeding disorders bleed a significant amount.
Speaker A:But as you can imagine.
Speaker A:And that side of the house is called Five Leaders.
Speaker A:It's our research arm in that space.
Speaker A:And they're doing a lot of really interesting work with the DOD and some hospitals, obviously trauma centers, but testing that and taking the work that was done on animals so that 20 years of research with the Feinstein's animal work.
Speaker A:And so translating that to humans is challenging.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Because you don't want to create a traumatic injury to a person in order to test them.
Speaker A:That's unethical.
Speaker A:You'd never be able to do that.
Speaker A:The IRB would never be for that.
Speaker A:And with bleeding disorders the same way.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:While people who have bleeding disorders do bleed often, you don't want to cause that in order to then test out.
Speaker A:There's Right.
Speaker A:So they were at a hematologist conference and a female hematologist actually approached them and said, you know where it would be an interesting place to study this is women.
Speaker A:Because women bleed every month and those with bleeding disorders bleed significantly.
Speaker A:So they were like, oh, that's interesting because they're not causing the blood loss.
Speaker A:That blood loss is happening naturally.
Speaker A:And so that's where our pilots came from.
Speaker A:16 women halfway through Willebrand disease, which is a bleeding disorder where women can lose up to a liter of blood every time they urge.
Speaker A:They have a bulk, which is a quarter of their blood.
Speaker A:Women have four to four and a half liters of blood in our body.
Speaker A:Men have five plus.
Speaker A:And just the idea of the.
Speaker A:The health implications of that alone.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And losing out load of their blood.
Speaker A:So that half and the other half were women who had idiopathic heavy menstrual bleeding, Meaning no known cause for why they haven't heavy menstrual bleeding.
Speaker A:Maybe they have some system things that happen but can be diagnosed with.
Speaker A:So just taking these two groups of women that we know on the PBAC score bleed significantly and significantly over the baseline of 150.
Speaker A: ese women are bleeding in the: Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So we took that and we began to see some really interesting results from that.
Speaker A:In fact, we saw on average amongst those 16Ns, 16 people were on average a 55% reduction in the amount of blood loss during menstruation and a 20% reduction in the number of days women were on their cycle.
Speaker A:And so we get some questions around, oh, it's only 16 women, but the outsized effects, blood loss reduction.
Speaker A:Some of those women in Meredith saw up to a 70% reduction in their blood loss during using our device just in one cycle.
Speaker A:And these women are wearing it two hours every day they bled.
Speaker A:That's it, just two hours every day they bled.
Speaker A:And again, some of them seeing up to a 70% reduction.
Speaker A:And so if you think about these women who are losing a liter of blood every time, menstruate or up to a Leonardo blood, reducing that by 70% is life changing.
Speaker A:And then reducing the number of days around that period by 20%.
Speaker A:Some of these women are waiting 10, 12, 15 days as opposed to a normal seven day cycle.
Speaker A:And so what we're, what we were able to see is, oh, this is huge.
Speaker A:This is a big deal.
Speaker A:Then on the flip side of that was all the other pieces that come with menstruation, right?
Speaker A:It's not just about blood loss, but it's about period cramping, gastric upset, anxiety, sleeplessness, weave swings, cravings, all of these pieces, we all 16 of those participants also saw at least some percentage of reduction across those categories.
Speaker A:And so when you think about what was the origin of own body, we went from having a device that we thought, okay, here's an interesting place to test if we have the effects on blood loss that we think we do or the reduction in blood loss to our three founders looking at each other and going, oh no, we have a menstrual wellness product.
Speaker A:We don't just have a blood reduction management product.
Speaker A:We have a true holistic whole body menstrual wellness product.
Speaker A: , Bodi was born at the end of: Speaker A:So the end of last year we launched our brand in January and launched our product in July.
Speaker A:So very quick because we were like, let's get as many women, yeah, some help as we can, right?
Speaker A: s coming down the pipeline in: Speaker A:And then there's tired sort of chart.
Speaker A:It's forward, cells are pelagic D like there's a lot of work being done in those spaces to continue after those indications as well.
Speaker A:That was A long.
Speaker A:That was a very long winded answer to your question, Meredith.
Speaker B:I love it.
Speaker B:It's so fascinating and so freaking necessary.
Speaker B:This is the invisible issue, hell, you could call it that we're here because of and no one.
Speaker B:It's completely unacknowledged.
Speaker B:The amount of.
Speaker B:And this is a whole other.
Speaker B:There's so many spin off episodes we could do from this.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But there's so many reasons why it has become a hell in.
Speaker B:In modern lifestyle.
Speaker B:But it's just not talked about.
Speaker B:So just even the acknowledgment of this happens and acknowledging like this is how we get here, this is what women's bodies need.
Speaker B:And not being having it viewed as some kind of burden or some kind of like shameful thing, but actually something we can approach with creative innovation, with technology, without something that's going to throw off your entire body or you're going to have to sacrifice something else.
Speaker B:Like this.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you're saying that for us, it's what I love about own body is that our founders, we have three male founders and they are phenomenal and all have daughters and are really focused in on like, how do we make it better for women.
Speaker A:You know, they're all married, whatever.
Speaker A:But they could have very easily said, okay, Spark Biomedical is releasing a menstrual wellness device and just left it at that.
Speaker A:But what they realized was like, oh no.
Speaker A:There's an entire world of destigmatization that has to happen in order for a product like this to move their dogs.
Speaker A:Women have to be comfortable talking about it.
Speaker A:They have to even understand that what they're experiencing while common in their family, is not normal.
Speaker A:Lots of women don't even know they're having struggle.
Speaker A:They don't even know that what they're experiencing is more pain than their body should be.
Speaker A:Because for millennia women have been told to suck it up and deal with it.
Speaker A:This is our curse and this is what we're doing.
Speaker A:And so for us, it's very important for us to help women feel like they can acknowledge like, oh shit, this actually is painful.
Speaker A:And if I could make myself 40% better in my cramping and reduce that by 40%, why would I do that?
Speaker A:Because now I can go about my life and I can, I can go to that my kids soccer game, I can sit on an airplane and not worry about breathing through my shorts.
Speaker A:I can, whatever that is, fill in the blank there.
Speaker A:We no longer have to moderate our lives for our periods.
Speaker A:And that's really why Obadi exists.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Our tagline is, because life doesn't stop when you start.
Speaker A:And truly, it's about saying, no longer should we have to accept our menstrual cycles, whether it's five days or 15 days.
Speaker A:No longer is that gonna dictate what I can and can't do in my day.
Speaker A:Because who the hell has time for that?
Speaker A:I do not.
Speaker A:You do not, and most women on planet Earth do not have time for that.
Speaker A:And yet the only things we've been given to this point are heating pads, pharmaceuticals, or invasive surgery.
Speaker A:And that's just unacceptable.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker B:Especially considering that we all, again, exist because of one.
Speaker B:And I remember at the office being, you know, going in with my heating pad, and I'm like, why am I.
Speaker B:My hot water bottle.
Speaker B:Why am I embarrassed?
Speaker B:Why am I.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:Why?
Speaker B:Because every single person sitting here in this office came from someone with a period.
Speaker B:Why am I.
Speaker B:Why do I need to be embarrassed to say, and of course we don't.
Speaker B:Life doesn't start.
Speaker B:Stop when you start.
Speaker B:But you know what?
Speaker B:There's a lot of power also in saying, I need to take a break.
Speaker B:My menstrual cycle.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's like our brains are primed during.
Speaker B:Specifically during the bleed.
Speaker B:The right side and the left side of the brain are primed for.
Speaker B:They're more communicate, more communicative.
Speaker B:So they're primed to receive intuitive messages like that psychic kind of.
Speaker B:This is what I need to let go of.
Speaker B:This is what I need to keep for this phase.
Speaker B:And that's just something that I think a lot of people skip over.
Speaker B:But if you actually start listening to your body and actually honoring your needs and you have something like own body, you have a support system.
Speaker B:Because a lot of times when you're in so much pain, you can't even begin to listen because you're in survival mode.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You can just get that little bit, and it's both things working simultaneously.
Speaker B:That's okay.
Speaker B:I can do a little bit here.
Speaker B:And I can also listen to what I actually need to address the root cause of this or address what's going on.
Speaker B:This day is coming.
Speaker B:This day we're right here on the precipice where women are no longer embarrassed.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No longer embarrassed because they can find somebody.
Speaker A:Why shouldn't we be?
Speaker A:I really think and think that generation under us, or maybe two generations.
Speaker A:My niece is 13, so I think she's two generations under me because I'm 40.
Speaker A:But they are in the state which I'm So proud of.
Speaker A:She's been carrying a period pack in her backpack since she was 10, and she has helped two to three of her girlfriends standing outside the bathroom at school to be like, okay, you're gonna take the lining off the back of that thing, and you're gonna stick it to the.
Speaker A:I have an extra pair of panties for you.
Speaker A:And they're just so open about it.
Speaker A:And I'm like, God, I. I'm so proud that she is this young woman who's very.
Speaker A:And now she started, and she's like, oh, my God, it just shows up.
Speaker A:I'm like, I know, I know.
Speaker A:You know, she's just so open about talking about it.
Speaker A:And I just.
Speaker A:I want for my own generation and as elder millennials to be like, why have we been hiding away from this for so long?
Speaker A:Every one of us bleeds.
Speaker A:To your point, every person, man or woman, came from someone who bleeds.
Speaker A:And this is such a natural part of what we do.
Speaker A:And because we, I think when we continue to bring it to light, when do we continue to take away the shame of talking about it?
Speaker A:That's when real innovation and real solutions happen.
Speaker A:That's when we can say, oh, that's how much you bleed.
Speaker A:Oh, my gosh, I bleed way more than that.
Speaker A:I wonder if I should talk to my gynecologists about that.
Speaker A:Like, it begins to.
Speaker A:When you tear down the walls, it begins to open conversations for discovery and understanding.
Speaker A:But we've been hiding it away for so long, which is why we have these gaps in knowledge.
Speaker B:Totally.
Speaker A:And that's totally.
Speaker A:It's just not in gaps in innovation and gaps in investment, because we just don't even know that there's a problem because so long nobody talked about it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that's the antidote to the fear, is education is learning about it.
Speaker B:That's the antidote to the pain, to all of it, is to actually understand this.
Speaker B:That takes away so much of the trauma.
Speaker B:Speaking of personal experience, which I'd love to hear how that process actually works for own body, where I'm certainly not a neuroscientist.
Speaker B:Stimulating the trigeminal nerve and vagus nerve for zero side effects and pain relief, tell us a little bit more about how that actually occurs when people are first using ownbody.
Speaker C:So if you need a visual break, I want to talk about today's sponsors.
Speaker C:Oh, by the way, it's me.
Speaker C:I'm going to tell you a little bit about why I created this show.
Speaker C:I created this show because I have lived it.
Speaker C:I Faced my shit and healed myself by unraveling all of the medical and pharmaceutical lies I had been told about my endometriosis and was able to heal myself after 17 years of debilitating pain.
Speaker C:My experience inspired me to literally live my art.
Speaker C:So not only did I create this.
Speaker B:Podcast you're listening to right now, I.
Speaker C:First created an ongoing art series about it called Every Phase.
Speaker C:All of the artwork you see in my clips and within this episode is from my Every Phase series, which will span for 13 years.
Speaker C:The pieces illustrate how I healed myself as I live by the phases of of the female hormonal cycle.
Speaker C:So the artwork shows what's happening in the brain and the body during each phase and reveals how to biohack and leverage this energy in your life.
Speaker C:This month's featured piece isn't out yet, but it is the crossroads between ovulatory and colludial phase, better known as the bitch phase.
Speaker C:Also, the transition from Leo's golden confidence into Virgo's refining eye.
Speaker C:And now the gentle balance of Libra.
Speaker C:I created this work using Musou black paint, one of the blackest blacks on Earth, absorbing over 99.4% of visible light.
Speaker B:A visual of what it feels like to be in the crossroads of one.
Speaker C:Life that has died, but the other hasn't really started yet.
Speaker C:This piece was inspired by a season of grief, not for what happened, but for what never did.
Speaker C:For the things left unacknowledged, unreconciled.
Speaker C:It's for anyone who's held on to pain just to prove it was real.
Speaker C:And in that same spirit, this episode with ownbody dives into how we face and transmute pain through the body so we can listen to our greatest teacher.
Speaker C:The answers are all in the shadow.
Speaker C:The sunlight is my paintbrush, darkness is my developer.
Speaker C:And this piece, this is your piece.
Speaker C:It hasn't been released yet, so if it speaks to you, message me directly to collect it before it goes live.
Speaker A:So own body is really cool because through our neurostimulation, we actually do two things.
Speaker A:So on the pain management side and the cramping side and all the other pieces that come with that, what we're able to do is by stimulating the trigeminal and vaser.
Speaker A:So your trigeminal nerve is associated with pain management.
Speaker A:How your body regulates pain.
Speaker A:Your vagus nerve is the only cranial nerve that leaves your brain, touches all these major organs in your body and then send signals back up to your brain.
Speaker A:She's like the powerhouse nerve, truly.
Speaker A:She's A beast.
Speaker A:And everyone's talking about optimizing our.
Speaker A:So for us, in our technology and our patented tech, we actually are able to send a really special frequency blend between your trigeminal and vagus nerves, where we are able to actually balance your autonomic nervous system.
Speaker A:So one of the reasons you feel like crap on your periods is addition to lots of other things.
Speaker A:But one of the main reasons is that your body is actually out of sync.
Speaker A:Your sympathetic tones, which are your fight or flight tones, are in overdrive.
Speaker A:And essentially what that means is your body's in survival mode.
Speaker A:We don't talk about this a lot this way, but when you're bleeding from your uterus, your body is experiencing a trauma.
Speaker A:And again, we don't think about it that way because menstruation happens every month.
Speaker A:But we say this a lot.
Speaker A:For a lot of heavy menstrual bleeders.
Speaker A:If they were to bleed as much as they do from their uterus, from any other part of their body, they'd be in the hospital receipt, drink.
Speaker A:And their body is.
Speaker A:Your body doesn't actually know the difference.
Speaker A:I mean, it does, but at the base, it really doesn't.
Speaker A:What it's doing is sending all these resources, and that's like, hello, danger, danger, danger.
Speaker A:There's something happening here.
Speaker A:And while your body is designed to manage that, in some cases our autonomic nervous system goes into fight or flight always.
Speaker A:And for some women, that's a severe.
Speaker A:And its body's really trying to send out signals to help you.
Speaker A:So what we're able to do is by signaling both as it serves, we actually raise your parasympathetic tone, which is your rest and relaxed tone.
Speaker A:And so what we're able to help the body do is actually experience menstruation in a more relaxed state to say, hey, don't.
Speaker A:Damn it, we got you covered.
Speaker A:All is good.
Speaker A:We don't keep you from menstruating, we don't keep you from ovulating, because both of those things are very important to the overall health of a woman.
Speaker A:It just is.
Speaker A:It's not even about pregnancy and babies.
Speaker A:Like, it's just for you to be healthy, you need to menstruate well.
Speaker A:And that's just part of it, right?
Speaker A:Has nothing to do with fertility from our end.
Speaker A:It's just, can you be a healthy woman?
Speaker A:So what we're able to do is by raising those parasympathetic tones, balancing your nervous system, your body just experiences all of that, all of the trauma that it's doing in that more calm state.
Speaker A:And so we get reductions.
Speaker A:40 plus percent reduction in gastric appetite, 40 plus percent reduction in, in cramping, a 30 plus percent improvement in stability.
Speaker A:Right, let's talk about just that itself.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:To be able to then manage, Right.
Speaker A:And so then suddenly your body's feeling better and you're able to manage all these things that are happening inside of us while you're sitting in boardrooms, while you're painting, while you're being a mom, while you're just filling the blank.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So that's the one side of bone body that we really love.
Speaker A:The other side of bone body is by signaling the vagus, what we're actually able to do is send signals down to the spleen.
Speaker A:The spleen at any given point holds between 20 and 25% of platelets in your body.
Speaker A:Platelets are the little things in your body that when you cut your finger, you don't bleed out because the platelets showed up and did their job.
Speaker A:Their job is to flaunt and to keep you from losing blood.
Speaker A:And so that's no different than.
Speaker A:And platelets are doing their job all the time.
Speaker A:I can clap my hands together and now suddenly platelets are going inside of my body to keep me from, from bleeding out on the inside, right?
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker A:So we don't really think about that.
Speaker A:We think massive cuts, but even small things.
Speaker A:So in this case, the shedding of your uterine wall are tiny tears.
Speaker A:And so your body is sending platelets there to clot to keep you from bleeding out, bleeding too much out.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So and, and a lot of instances, platelets get there and like, is just too much.
Speaker A:And so what we're actually able to do is by signaling the spleen where your platelets are housed, we're actually able to prime those platelets such a way so that when they show up to a point of entry, again, in this case, the shedding of your uterine wall, they, they're able to clot faster, stronger, and hold longer, which means you bleed less.
Speaker A:So because we're not activating the clots, there's no worry about pre clotting, throwing clots.
Speaker A:We're not telling the platelet to clot.
Speaker A:All we're saying is, hey, platelet, you're primed in such a way that when the body says to show up and do your job, you're gonna do really efficient.
Speaker A:And so that's where clinically we saw that 55% reduction on average in blood loss across, across women.
Speaker A:So again, it's not Keeping you because it's some amount of blood is normal.
Speaker A:You should be losing between 10 and 80 milliliters a month every single.
Speaker A:That's not actually very much.
Speaker A:That's just over a quarter of cup of blood for your entire cycle.
Speaker A:So I say that to women sometimes and you can see the light.
Speaker A:Oh, go on their head and they're like, I think I bled that edge yesterday.
Speaker A:I'm like, you probably, yeah.
Speaker A:So we're not preventing you from bleeding at all.
Speaker A:We're just helping your body clot more efficiently so you lose blood.
Speaker A:Because we know that the more blood you keep in your body, the healthier you are.
Speaker A:When you go on a traumatic surgery, we want you to not be transfused.
Speaker A:No doctor wants to transfuse you because now your body has to like process that.
Speaker A:It's no, it's foreign to your body.
Speaker A:Sometimes rejection, there's all these things.
Speaker A:Healthy people have more blood in their body.
Speaker A:We want, we want you to use much bloody blood in your body.
Speaker A:And so in this case we're just keeping the uterus from losing more blood and just doing that more efficiently.
Speaker A:So those are the two mechanisms of the science and we could get real technical and get into it.
Speaker A:But at the end of the day, across the cohort, whether they lost a lot of blood or had a huge blood reduction and a moderate cramping reduction, or a big cramping reduction, maybe a more moderate blood reduction.
Speaker A:What we saw was an increase in quality of life support, which is really the whole point.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:That's the only thing.
Speaker A:We just want to feel better.
Speaker A:And for millennia we've been told to go find that on our own.
Speaker A:And so we've resorted to painkillers with over the counter and prescription, we've resorted to hot water bottles and listen, we're not anti supplement, but there's a lot of supplements out there that aren't doing anything that.
Speaker A:There are some great supplements, I'm a supplement user, but there's a lot of pseudoscience and crappy snake oil and things that are.
Speaker A:Because women will do anything to be 1% better.
Speaker A:And our devices say let's help you be 55 of them.
Speaker A:Which is right.
Speaker A:But without drugs, without hormones, without invasive methods.
Speaker A:And then if you get really desperate for women, we're cutting out uteruses out of 20 year olds, 25 year olds, I know.
Speaker A:Or women who are 30.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:My best college best friend had instructed me at 32 she was not ready to be done having babies.
Speaker A:But her bleeding was so intense, her Periods were so heavy and now that she's 41, she's incontinent.
Speaker A:She's going through menopause.
Speaker A:She had a.
Speaker A:Her testosterone levels were tested the other day and it was like a seven.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:And she's 41.
Speaker A:Like she is too young to be dealing with these things.
Speaker A:And oh, by the way, didn't get to have the third baby.
Speaker A:She was horrible to have.
Speaker A:So how can we.
Speaker A:And I'm not saying that ultimately own body would have kept her from that, but she would have at least had something to manage the heavy bleeding and the painful periods that she was having in that moment.
Speaker B:So yeah, she would have had the choice.
Speaker A:The choice.
Speaker B:It's not.
Speaker B:How can you even make a fair choice when you don't even know.
Speaker B:You're not even educated on what's going on.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:You're.
Speaker B:It's not even.
Speaker B:It's such an infringement of.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Free will to not even be able to know.
Speaker B:Oh, there, that's the difference between this choice or there's actually this option available or that option.
Speaker A:So it's so important.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:So incredibly important.
Speaker B:What's happening here.
Speaker B:And for the people that are skeptical because there is, to your point, so much crap.
Speaker A:So much.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:What would you say to those women?
Speaker B:They're struggling, they're suffering.
Speaker B:They've tried, they've.
Speaker B:And I've.
Speaker B:This has been me too.
Speaker B:And I've tried a lot of the natural stuff and especially when I had a higher toxic load in my body.
Speaker B:And of course like the natural stuff has got a lot to like work through.
Speaker B:And I became extremely skeptical because I would put all this hope into something.
Speaker B:I can't wait.
Speaker B:And then my period and then die.
Speaker B:I had the rug pulled out from underneath you.
Speaker B:What would you say to people that have experienced that or that are skeptical about own body?
Speaker B:What makes it different or what is your, what are your kind of words of wisdom there?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:First of all, I would say we hear you and we get it and we welcome the skepticism.
Speaker A:We want people to tear our science apart.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And ask us questions.
Speaker A:We have an incredible community over on social media.
Speaker A:Our guest emails are always with questions and we're always happy to answer those questions.
Speaker A:I would say this one.
Speaker A:Ownbody comes with a 60 day money back guarantee, no questions asked.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:So if you take it and that should give you enough time to try for two seconds.
Speaker A:For most women, if you put it on and you're like, yeah, this isn't working, send it Back and we'll give you your money back, no questions asked.
Speaker A: is in use for us since about: Speaker A:The neural tourniquet again, has been studied for 20 plus years.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So we understand the safety mechanisms behind that.
Speaker A:We are doing some research currently in our other side of the house in Sparrow, around neonatal patients.
Speaker A:So little babies born addicted to opioids or who had to have surgery within the first couple of days of their lives and had to be given sentinel.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So we are, we're testing this tech on brand new babies.
Speaker A:And if it was unsafe, we wouldn't be testing it on brainy babies.
Speaker A:And then the hundreds of people who have tried the device or worn the device on the.
Speaker A:Either on the own body side or the thousands of people on the Sparrow side, we've yet to have an adverse reaction outside of maybe some skin irritation.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And maybe an occasional headache because their frequency or their currency was just up too high.
Speaker A:So just turn it down.
Speaker A:And usually that's applied.
Speaker A:But from our perspective, our safety protocols in there are so high, our milliamps go from 0 to 4.
Speaker A:If you use a tens unit, like a muscular tens unit, it starts at a.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, it is way up there.
Speaker A:So ours is.
Speaker A:Yeah, ours is so low.
Speaker A:And to get from 0 to 4, there's like 50 little increments in between.
Speaker A:So you will feel uncomfortable before it ever causes you pain.
Speaker A:Just period.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And like you will, you'll be like, oh, that's a little too jolty for me.
Speaker A:And you just turn it back down.
Speaker A:But from a safety perspective, we just feel so very confident in what we're doing.
Speaker A:So that side.
Speaker A:And again, backed by years and years of research by our chief science officer and our chief technical officer, plus adding the 20 year Feinstein Institute, there's been a lot of science around what we're doing.
Speaker A:And we have the proof, we have the clinical research to prove it and to back it.
Speaker A:And so skepticism is welcomed.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:I was at a.
Speaker A:You'll appreciate this.
Speaker A:I was at an OB GYN conference and was telling this doctor about it and he literally threw his foot back and goes, bullshit, literally.
Speaker A:And I was like, yeah, I'm welcome.
Speaker A:Let's have a conversation.
Speaker A:And by the end of it, he was like, okay, send me one of these.
Speaker A:I want to.
Speaker A:Let's go.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So we welcome the questions because we want our science to be real.
Speaker A:And I say this a lot.
Speaker A:I would not have come to work for this company if the science wasn't real.
Speaker A:Because I am a woman who has looked at crap results and crap offerings for a very long time.
Speaker A:I'm so proud to work for a company who is science led first period.
Speaker A:Just in no financial, but just like right.
Speaker A:Science matters to us and we have an in house clinical team and in house engineering team.
Speaker A:And for a company of our size, that's really tremendous.
Speaker A:The other side of this, and I throw this out, the pivotal study I mentioned that we're going to do next year, that'll be half women with heavy menstrual bleeding and the other half will be adolescents.
Speaker A:So girls 14 to 17 with heavy menstrual bleeding, which we're really excited about, that's being funded by an organization out of the UK called Welcome Leap.
Speaker A:Welcome Leap did a $50 million fund where they wanted research done around non invasive, non hormonal treatments of menstrual.
Speaker A:That's our definition.
Speaker A:They awarded out of that $50 million, 13 awardees.
Speaker A:We were one of 13 and we're the only non research institution to receive funding.
Speaker A:And, and that just speaks to the clinical efficacy of our team and every other.
Speaker A:Yeah, all the other 12 were research institutions or universities, were the only commercial company to receive funding.
Speaker A:That's how much they believed in the efficacy of what we were doing and the innovation that's coming to market or that is on market currently.
Speaker A:I always like to say that, don't take our word for it.
Speaker A:Like look around at who continues to give us money, the non dilutive capital we're getting from, or we were getting from the NIH, but the DoD.
Speaker A:You know, like those organizations don't just write checks, right?
Speaker A:They want proof and they want to see that it works and they want to believe in the tech.
Speaker A:And so I think it's again, not just about us, but look at companies.
Speaker A:So if you're looking at like, should I go with this company or this company, look at where their funding's coming from, look at what kind of research is being done.
Speaker A:Are their research articles peer reviewed?
Speaker A:Are other people saying the same things that they're saying?
Speaker A:Don't just take this word of like, oh, this study over here by someone else.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Did they do their own research?
Speaker A:And if they didn't, that's probably a red flag.
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Speaker A:Totally.
Speaker B:Oh always follow the money.
Speaker A:Follow the money and the research.
Speaker A:Both of those.
Speaker A:Oh yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh yes.
Speaker B:And I remember trying pulsetto for the speaking of the skepticism and just being literally shocked.
Speaker B:Like I felt like a document across the invisible fence like one too many times.
Speaker B:And ye my husband loves it.
Speaker B:And listen, not knocking it for something like hell yeah but because we have seen, or at least I have seen kind of like a trend, a little bit of this shock Vegas vagus nerve like stimulation or like management of nervous system with this kind of technology.
Speaker B:And then people getting shocked or not really liking or like you had to put on so much fricking gel.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I know.
Speaker B:I don't know if you have one here, but I know on the website and I can show it to you for people on YouTube it kind of just goes around the ear.
Speaker B:Is that okay, cool.
Speaker A:That's super easy.
Speaker A:These white things peel off and you stick around your ear.
Speaker A:We take the guesswork out of it.
Speaker A:There's no gel.
Speaker A:There's no like am I hitting the right spot?
Speaker A:It's very clear.
Speaker A:You literally put it around your ear.
Speaker A:There's very few ways to screw this up.
Speaker A:True.
Speaker A:And we have tutorial videos and diagrams on our website to make it really the first couple of times a little awkward just because you're like, you know, you clip your hair back is how I do it.
Speaker B:I took clip.
Speaker A:I took my hair back.
Speaker A:Use the alcohol wipe.
Speaker A:Peel these off and you stick it and they're pretty sticky.
Speaker A:So you know you want to get it right.
Speaker A:But both sides we have some diagrams that are like Go no go zones.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Put it here, but don't put it here.
Speaker A:But really it's pretty, pretty foolproof.
Speaker A:Put it on and then you plug it into a cable that then connects to something else.
Speaker A:Like this is smaller than a phone.
Speaker A:It's literally like nearly sits in my phone.
Speaker A:It's about as high as a child's toy.
Speaker A:It's very easy.
Speaker A:The cool thing about this, Meredith, is that we're not collecting your data.
Speaker A:So this is not user specific.
Speaker A:It's not a period.
Speaker A:I don't want your data.
Speaker A:I don't want to be a peer tracker.
Speaker A:So we're not collecting your data.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:All this is doing is sending the frequency that's already predetermined, the frequency pattern that's already predetermined down through that earpiece.
Speaker A:And from this you control how intense it feels for you.
Speaker A:So some women on day one can not have it up very high, but by day three they're like, yeah, I feel good.
Speaker A:I can put a little high.
Speaker A:If I'm a little dehydrated, I've got to turn up a little more, you know, so there's things I can control that and it, and then you set how long you wear it.
Speaker A:That's all this does.
Speaker A:Okay, so if you're in a home with a mom and three girls who are menstruating, buy one device and some earpieces.
Speaker A:Our earpieces are daily disposable.
Speaker A:And the reason they are is because if you can see this, the circuits are printed directly into the earpiece as you can see here.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:And so the hydrocolloid, so the sticky part on the back keeps you safe and keeps those electrical pieces away from your skin directly.
Speaker A:So it's a one time use.
Speaker A:So if you're using it over and over, that's going to wear out and probably be a safety issue.
Speaker A:That's where a safety issue would happen is if someone was using these more than once.
Speaker A:But you can buy these, buy them in bulk, buy them on the subscription plan.
Speaker A:We've got several options on our website.
Speaker A:We also have two stickinesses.
Speaker A:We have the Active sign.
Speaker A:So if you live in a highly humid place, you're going to go for a walk or work out while you're doing it, lift weights or something.
Speaker A:We recommend the Active or we have the classic at the four to six hour hold.
Speaker A:And it will for every day you sit in the office, be at home, go get your kids from school, whatever it might be, you can wear that one.
Speaker A:And so there's two Different.
Speaker A:Two different options on the website for that.
Speaker B:Love that.
Speaker B:It's one thing just to talk about, another thing to actually see.
Speaker B:Because you know what I mean.
Speaker B:Because you're like, how does this actually work?
Speaker B:And am I wearing a collar?
Speaker B:Am I wearing like a bodice in my hair?
Speaker A:Like there's so much strange.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Once my hair is down, if I don't care if people see it, whatever.
Speaker A:But if you feel like it needs to be discreet, I literally just take it and then take the wire and put it underneath my shirt and then put it in the pocket.
Speaker A:Like it's that discreet.
Speaker A:And that earpiece, as you can see, was clear outside of what the circuits you could see.
Speaker A:And then we just wanted to make it easy.
Speaker A:And you don't have to wear it all day.
Speaker A:So I wear my two hours every morning.
Speaker A:Dynamic tree for me, I have a five day period.
Speaker A:I wear it on day one because in perimenopause I have brain fog like I've never experienced in my life before.
Speaker A:So it helps to clear my brain first thing in the morning.
Speaker A:I usually wear a one and lift.
Speaker A:I have a cup of coffee, I have some breakfast and then after my two hours I take it off, take a shower and I go.
Speaker A:On day two I wear it because in perimenopause again, another gift of that I started flooding my disc, like a 12 hour disc.
Speaker A:I was like flooding after three or four hours and I was like, what is happening?
Speaker A:And I'm a girl who like didn't start Till I was 17, had two to three periods a year through my 20s and then had a.
Speaker A:Had a pretty regulated period in my 30s.
Speaker A:I know I'm very lucky.
Speaker A:But then hitting perimenopause, suddenly my body and no more and stop.
Speaker A:But since wearing my own body since January, I have yet to flood out of my desk once a. Wow.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then I work on day three to help just manage that.
Speaker A:But by day four if I. I don't need my one because I'm spotting and two, I don't have cramps.
Speaker A:So it's not this like you have to wear it every day or you have to wear it this many days.
Speaker A:We recommend two hours because we know that by then your platelets should be primed.
Speaker A:And then for most women, the autonomic nervous system is balanced after two hours.
Speaker A:But we recognize everyone's different.
Speaker A:So if you're really feeling cramps that day, you may wear it for three or four.
Speaker A:That's great.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Or two hours in the morning.
Speaker A:Unplug yourself and then by the afternoon, it's a residual effect so that your sympathetic tones back up.
Speaker A:Just plug yourself back in and aware a little more.
Speaker A:There's no again on the.
Speaker A:On our addiction side of the house opiate side of the house, those individuals wear it for 24, seven all the way through withdrawal.
Speaker A:And so there's no adverse reaction to wearing longer.
Speaker A:We just know that what we love about own body is that it's customizable for every woman because we recognize that while every woman bleeds, not every woman bleeds the same.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so we need treatment options that are different for every woman.
Speaker A:It cannot be a one size fits all pill anymore.
Speaker A:It just can't be.
Speaker A:And that's what we love about own body is that it can truly be customized to the woman at hand.
Speaker A:And maybe one cycle is really bad and I have to wear it for three days and my next cycle I only have to wear it one day.
Speaker A:One or two days.
Speaker A:It's truly about you.
Speaker A:Or for some women, their cramping is worse leading up to their first day of their period.
Speaker A:So that's when their cramping is really bad.
Speaker A:So we have team members and users who wear it three days prior.
Speaker A:One, two, three.
Speaker A:And then enter themselves into their breathing phase.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's what's so cool about it.
Speaker B:You don't have to worry.
Speaker B:You don't have to count the milligrams.
Speaker B:Or am I gonna overdose or something?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like am I gonna die from this time to prevent myself from dying on my period.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And the other beautiful thing is a lot of current treatment options require several weeks of use before you see effects or several times.
Speaker A:There's some on the market that are like, oh, we recommend wearing it for three months before you see your first real side effects or side scientific withdrawal.
Speaker A:And that's not all body.
Speaker A:Many of our users report that they feel relief after 30 minutes.
Speaker A:And we still encourage the two hours because we wanted to continue work.
Speaker A:But some as little as 10 minutes.
Speaker A:We had a user who came back to us and said, Within 10 minutes I felt happy.
Speaker A:And she like questioned.
Speaker A:She was like, I don't know how to explain that.
Speaker A:And that's just that balancing of the autonomic nervous system.
Speaker A:Because when you're balanced, when your toes are balanced, your body is.
Speaker A:Will feel good.
Speaker A:And I think so many women during their period are like, oh, I forgot what it felt like to feel good.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker B:It is, it is wild, but it's so true you don't even realize.
Speaker B:And when you start Even attempting to go on the healing journey inside yourself, you.
Speaker B:When you start to feel better, it's.
Speaker B:I didn't even know that I could have this much energy.
Speaker B:I didn't know that.
Speaker B:I didn't even know it was an option on the menu.
Speaker B:Like, until you experience it and then you're like, oh, I've been.
Speaker B:How did I even function with being shitty, being my normal?
Speaker B:Like, because it's just part of being a woman.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:And so that's part of our.
Speaker A:What we're on a journey of is educating women that what they're experiencing doesn't have to be that way.
Speaker A:Even with my best girlfriend, they're like, oh, I mean, lucky.
Speaker A:It's not that bad cramp.
Speaker A:But, like, I mean, it's for like a day.
Speaker A:I'm like, but wouldn't it be nice not to cramp at all?
Speaker A:Why are we accepting that cramping is a normal part of being a woman?
Speaker A:And I say this a lot.
Speaker A:If men bled from their penises, we'd already have a cure.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Like, we would already.
Speaker A:Or they'd have paid leave every time they menstruated.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Holiday.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, like, truly.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker A:But for women, we've been told for so long this is a part of the experience, and we've convinced ourselves that we deserve less than feeling.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:And I think part of our mission at ownbody is these types of conversations of like, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker A:Like, you deserve to feel great.
Speaker A:Even through menstruation, you deserve to feel better.
Speaker A:So let's create pathways and innovation and continue to drive for research and innovation to help women feel better.
Speaker A:And it's not about.
Speaker A:It's not about this, oh, what was me and what was.
Speaker A:No, it's again, we have how many drugs for ED immediately for.
Speaker A:But we.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:But the best we can do for women with endometriosis is surgery.
Speaker A:Why is that?
Speaker A:Why is that the option?
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:And so, and again, we don't have Demon.
Speaker A:We Love.
Speaker A:We have three male co founders.
Speaker A:Three male co founders who are advocates for women and who want to champion women and who want to walk alongside us in this.
Speaker A:But we have to be better about normalizing what's not normal and having that conversation.
Speaker A:Because then and only then, I say this a lot.
Speaker A:You research and invest in things that matter to you and that you understand.
Speaker A:So it's incumbent upon us, which is sad, but it is incumbent upon us to continue the conversation to say, this is what matters.
Speaker A:And we're not A niche market.
Speaker A:Half the world's population is not niche, guys.
Speaker A:So we gotta have this conversation, be willing to come to the forefront and say, enough is enough and how do we get better?
Speaker B:I think it's so cool that you guys are really uniting people through the menstrual cycle, including men.
Speaker B:And I talk about this a lot in my work, in my Every Phase art series.
Speaker B:This series.
Speaker B:The main buyers to the art pieces in the series have been men, have not even been women.
Speaker B:Because everyone relates to the universal idea of pain.
Speaker C:Being a prisoner in your own body.
Speaker B:To feeling like there's nothing that you can do in this complete surrender that happens that is universal.
Speaker B:And again, this.
Speaker B:The menstrual cycle and cyclical living.
Speaker B:It's how we got here, and it's how the Earth operates.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it's.
Speaker B:I think that it's so, so important for men to be involved in the conversation because they.
Speaker B:I've heard from men when I was talking about this on the Sync Botanicals episode, like, men will come to me being like, I hate seeing her this way.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And she's embarrassed to talk about it.
Speaker B:And we all are.
Speaker B:And there's pain with sex, and there's so many different taboo things that are joyous little side effects of these imbalances that.
Speaker B:Who wants that?
Speaker B:It's almost like the male friends and lovers or boyfriends or brothers or fathers or uncles in our lives don't want that for us sometimes even more than us.
Speaker B:So it's.
Speaker B:So it's important for us to stand for each other.
Speaker B:And I think it's so cool that you guys are.
Speaker B:That we can have the period be that source of.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:We can do so much better than.
Speaker B:We can do it.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, absolutely.
Speaker A:And we.
Speaker A:I 100% agree with that.
Speaker A:And I'm really fortunate that, like, have a husband who cares.
Speaker A:He's like, this is so cool.
Speaker A:People are like, is it weird to talk about her period all the time?
Speaker A:And he's like, oh, why would it be weird?
Speaker A:He's like, she experiences it.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Like, he's like, this is very normal.
Speaker A:It's very, very normal for him.
Speaker A:But, yeah, I think you're right in that.
Speaker A:And like I said, it's not an us versus them.
Speaker A:And we never want to make it that it's a.
Speaker A:How do we holistically and together create something better for all of us?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Because then we all benefit that.
Speaker B:And on that note, it's my favorite united part of the show.
Speaker B:It is the biohacking with art Finale question.
Speaker B:Are you ready?
Speaker A:Okay, I'm ready.
Speaker B:She's ready.
Speaker B:She's ready.
Speaker A:I'm ready.
Speaker A:Let's go it.
Speaker A:Let's go.
Speaker B:Tuned in, tapped in, synced up, turned on.
Speaker A:Here we go.
Speaker B:If you could describe the impact and identity of own body as an art piece.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:How would you create it and what would it look like?
Speaker B:What would you choose?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I had to tap in some help with some of my teammates because I was like, you have to help me with this question because I'm a. I'm an Enneagram ape.
Speaker A:I'm a type A.
Speaker A:This is what I'm like.
Speaker A:I, I. Yeah, this is less.
Speaker A:I'm less artist.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker B:But you got it.
Speaker A:We really felt like when we think about how old body would show up as art and what that would look like, we were all really drawn to this idea.
Speaker A:When you walk into a museum and you come around the corner and there's this huge floor to see the oil painting of a woman that just captivates you.
Speaker A:You're like, I know exactly where she is.
Speaker A:I know exactly what she's feeling.
Speaker A:I know exactly what she's thinking.
Speaker A:And she's got this look on her face.
Speaker A:Every woman who walks by.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:I feel that.
Speaker A:I feel that deeply.
Speaker A:I know exactly who she is.
Speaker A:And it's a universal experience that women only have.
Speaker A:We feel like menstruation and nobody are in that space, but this, like, own body's sort of this companion to a silent experience.
Speaker A:You said this earlier, right?
Speaker A:The silence that women have and own body gets to be the woman in the room that's looking at you from that painting and saying, yeah, I see you, but we're going to do this better, and this is how it's going to be.
Speaker A:And so we, we just picture her as this really stoic, powerful, with a slight grin, this, like, glint in her eye that, like, only because we're women and we understand it can we really appreciate that in room.
Speaker A:So I don't know if that's what you wanted to hear, but that's what we came up with.
Speaker A:Felt really powerful.
Speaker A:Listen, it's.
Speaker B:There are no rules in art.
Speaker B:There are no rules.
Speaker B:Yeah, there are no rules.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker B:There's no rules in creation.
Speaker B:Listen, it's a wild world out there.
Speaker B:I love that.
Speaker B:It's art as not only medicine, but as a mirror.
Speaker B:As a mirror.
Speaker B:And that's what art does.
Speaker B:It brings people together.
Speaker B:It's a shared experience of what it's like 100% being human, being a Woman.
Speaker B:I absolutely love that.
Speaker B:It's so cool.
Speaker B:And it really speaks to the fact that our body is our greatest teacher, that, you know, healing.
Speaker B:It's a commitment to getting to know who you are yourself.
Speaker B:And so when you explore that deeper.
Speaker B:Yeah, like that.
Speaker B:Those paintings and those modalities of expression, sometimes you can't.
Speaker B:We can't say it.
Speaker B:That's why we make things like this.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker B:Transcends words.
Speaker B:So I absolutely love that.
Speaker B:So beautiful.
Speaker A:Thanks Shout out.
Speaker A:For helping me get to that.
Speaker A:Shout out.
Speaker B:Shout out.
Speaker B:And it has been bloody good chatting with you.
Speaker A:Oh my gosh, this has been a joy.
Speaker B:So awesome.
Speaker B:I would love for you to tell people where they can find you.
Speaker B:We're going to list all this in the show notes.
Speaker B:But where.
Speaker B:How can they learn more about ownbody?
Speaker B:Where can they connect all of that stuff now?
Speaker A:For sure, Connect with us on Instagram and TikTok.
Speaker A:We're there, we're having conversations.
Speaker A:Facebook too, but probably mostly in the IG and TikTok space.
Speaker A:We want to be a place where women can ask questions or share their own experiences.
Speaker A:We're doing some campaigns this.
Speaker A:This in this next month about share your story.
Speaker A:So hop on over here and tell us about your own experiences through periods.
Speaker A:And what we love there is so many of our followers have given us our next course of clinical work of oh, being.
Speaker A:Wow, this is really resonating with women.
Speaker A:Okay, what's the most important priority for own bodies?
Speaker A:And that's going to continue to help us drive innovation and understanding and research.
Speaker A:So that's the first place.
Speaker A:And then of course our website, ownbody.com is a great resource.
Speaker A:Find our clinical work there and the more deeper explanations of how it works and why it works by the product there and join us.
Speaker A:But yeah, we're out there on the web so please come and meet us there.
Speaker B:Perfect.
Speaker B:Love that.
Speaker B:And again, we will list all of these resources we chatted about today and more in the show notes.
Speaker B:I hope everyone, well, I know everyone, will be able to take away something from this painless and awesome conversation today to help them go out, face their shit, therefore healing themselves.
Speaker B:And remember, as always, the truth will set you free.
Speaker B:We will see you all next time.
Speaker A:Bye.
Speaker C:If you liked this episode or if you think this show would be useful for someone else, the best way you can show your support is to share it on your social media outlets, with family and friends or leave a review on podchaser.com, comment on YouTube or Apple Podcasts.
Speaker C:Thank you so much for listening and for having the bravery to face your shit and heal yourself.
