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Overcome Fear: Find Courage With God's Promise
Episode 4719th December 2023 • CROWD Church Livestream • Crowd Church
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Are you tired of feeling like fear has a vice-like grip on your life? Does the daily news leave you feeling more anxious than informed? You're not alone. In a world that often feels like it's spinning out of control, finding a foothold of peace can seem like an uphill battle. But what if there's a way to turn that fear into courage and find strength in places you've never looked before? Our latest talk, "Overcome Fear: Find Courage with God's Promise," isn't just another sermon. It's a heart-to-heart conversation, a journey through the chaos of modern life, guided by the timeless wisdom of the Bible.

👉 What you'll discover in this talk:

  • Why our world and personal lives are so often mired in fear.
  • How ancient wisdom provides clear navigation through today’s turbulence.
  • How to actively choose courage in the face of life's daunting challenges.
  • How the steadfast promises of God can be your anchor in stormy times.

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Matt Edmundson:

Welcome to this week's Crowd Church service.

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We are a digital church on a quest to discover how Jesus helps

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us live a more meaningful life.

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We are a community, a space to explore the Christian faith and a place

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where you can contribute and grow.

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Our service will last about an hour and in a few seconds we will start

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with a time of worship after which you will meet It's our hosts for our

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service who will introduce today's talk.

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After the talk, we head into Conversation Street, where we look at your stories

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and questions that you've posted in the comments throughout the live stream.

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I want to invite you to connect with us here at Crowd Church.

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And there are a few ways.

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That you can do just that.

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Firstly, you can engage with crowd from any device during our live stream.

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And if you're up for it, why not invite a few friends over and

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experience the service together.

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Church is all about connecting with God and connecting with others.

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And one of the easiest ways for you to do that is to also join One of our

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midweek groups where we need online together to catch up and discover

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more about the amazingness of Christ.

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You can also subscribe to our podcast called What's the

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Story where we deep dive into.

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Stories of Faith and Courage from Everyday People.

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More information about all of these things that I've mentioned

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can be found on our website www.

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crowd.

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church or you can reach us on social media at crowdchurch.

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If you're new to Crowd or new to the Christian faith and would like to know

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what your next steps to take are why not head over to our website crowd.

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church forward slash Next, for more details.

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And now, the moment you've been waiting for is here.

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Our online church service starts right now.

Dan Orange:

hEllo, everyone.

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We had a little, always have a technical issue when we start.

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We had a headphone problem.

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So I'm here today with my sister Ruth.

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Sister family, like orange sister, not, she's a sister in Christ, but

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my sister, actual sister as well.

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Yes, that is always fun.

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Is it with you?

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He's just bound his

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leg

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on the table.

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Yes, I smacked my leg on the slide underneath.

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Um, we were talking before, our week's been a bit interesting, hasn't it?

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Yeah, not the easiest week we've ever had.

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So I spoke last week that my granddad became a Christian, basically,

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when my grandma died, she was 101.

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Grandad's 98.

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And he waited all that time, and then realized he needed to give

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his life to God, which he did.

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And he died on Monday morning.

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Yeah.

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So it's been a It's been a hard few weeks, but,

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Yeah, but it's great to know that he and grandma are now in heaven.

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It makes things still a loss, but it makes things very different.

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This is why we do this, because we want to tell people, we

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want to tell you about Jesus.

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He's the answer.

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To all of our problems, doesn't mean that life isn't tricky

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and hard, it's just true.

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So I think let's get straight into the talk.

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If you've got any questions, then please just send them in.

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Oh, Ruth's mic, I think she's just not talking into it very good.

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We'll adjust that for Conversation Street.

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Yeah.

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If you've got any questions, then send them in.

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We'll do our best to answer them, but here we have the wonderful

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Sharon Edmundson talking.

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So let's have a listen.

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Do you listen to the news?

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How does it make you feel?

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Happy?

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I doubt it.

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In the UK, the news is full of fighting within our government

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and fighting between nations.

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It's full of bad news of all kinds.

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It can leave us feeling depressed, cynical and fearful.

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I wonder what things in the current news make you the most anxious or fearful.

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Or maybe the things in the news don't impact you directly, but you have other

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difficult situations in your life.

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Does the Bible have anything to say about all this?

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I believe it does.

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It explains why we have trouble in the world and it gives us insights

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that help us to navigate it.

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I'm going to pick up on this through today's Bible reading.

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Sometimes we have trouble just from living in a world that's cursed and decaying.

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The book of Genesis tells us that when God created the world, it was good,

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but soon after it came under a curse.

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So some of the trouble we have in life is because we live in a cursed

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world that isn't working completely how it was designed to work.

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For example, maybe you're suffering from illness through no fault of your own.

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Let's be honest, some of the trouble in our lives is because of our own

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stupidity, bad decisions or sin.

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Now sin is a Bible word for our rebellion against God and his ways.

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Some of the trouble in my life has been caused by getting into relationships

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that I knew weren't right or making silly financial decisions and getting into debt.

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Some of our trouble is caused by the sin of other people, for example the child

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who's knocked over by the drunk driver.

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Or the war caused by pride and greed and selfishness of others.

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Some of it's caused by a mixture of the above.

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For example, where poorer people are affected much more from adverse weather

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conditions because they're living in poor quality housing in areas that

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are more susceptible to disaster.

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Some of our trouble is caused by walking away from God.

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He's good and all his ways are good.

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The Bible says that every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from

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the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.

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When we turn our backs on God, we turn our backs on the source of all goodness.

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But there's another reason that we can have trouble in our lives, as we'll

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see when we read today's passage.

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Today we're going to look at yet another part of the life of a guy

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called Paul, formerly known as Saul, where he is in trouble yet again.

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If you're new to Crowd or the Christian faith, let me give you some background.

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Saul was a very religious Jew who had been so passionate about his faith that he

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had approved of Christians being killed.

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And he believed they were teaching what they were teaching was wrong

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and would draw people away from God.

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But he then had a dramatic experience of God where Jesus appeared to

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him in a vision and basically told him that what he what the

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Christians were teaching was true.

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That although he'd been passionately religious, he'd been passionately wrong.

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So he too became a follower of Jesus and went on a few missionary

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journeys to spread the message getting into lots of trouble on the way.

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Today he's in trouble again.

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He's been teaching in the temple in Jerusalem for seven days.

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When another group of Jews stirred up the crowd against him and falsely accused

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him, they dragged him out of the temple with the intention of killing him.

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However, the Romans, who were the occupying force at the time,

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got wind of what was going on and heard the city was in uproar.

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Soldiers and centurions were sent to intervene.

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They took Paul to their barracks to be interviewed and whipped.

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As he was about to be whipped, Paul dropped in the fact that he was a Roman

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citizen, which scared the commander and the other soldiers, as it was

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illegal to scourge a Roman citizen.

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And this is where we pick up the story today.

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I'll explain as we go on, and then focus on one verse at the end.

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The commander wanted to find out exactly why Paul was being accused by the Jews,

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so the next day he released him and ordered the chief priests and all the

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members of the Sanhedrin to assemble.

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Then he brought Paul and had him stand before them.

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Now this was not a trial, the purpose of this was to see if

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there was a case for a trial.

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So Paul looked straight at the Sanhedrin and said, My brothers, I fulfilled my duty

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to God in all good conscience to this day.

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At this, the high priest and Ananias ordered those standing near

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Paul to strike him on the mouth.

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Now, Ananias means Jehovah is Gracious, but actually, he had a

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reputation for being a bit of a tyran.

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Then Paul said to him, God will strike you, you whitewashed wall.

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You sit there to judge me according to the law, yet you yourself violate the

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law by commanding that I be struck.

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So Paul compared the high priest to a badly maintained and unsafe wall that was

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made to look okay with a lick of paint.

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Basically, Paul was calling Ananias a hypocrite.

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Ananias was there to judge Paul's case on the basis of Jewish law,

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and yet he was ordering actions that went contrary to the law.

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So Ananias violated both Jewish and Roman law.

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Those who were standing near Paul said, How dare you insult God's high priest?

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Paul replied, Brothers, I did not realize that he was the high priest,

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for it is written, Do not speak evil about the ruler of your people.

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There are several reasons that Paul might not have realized that

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Ananias was the high priest, but I don't want to get into them here.

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So then Paul, knowing that some of them were Sadducees and others Pharisees,

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called out in the Sanhedrin, My brothers, I'm a Pharisee descended from Pharisees.

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So the Pharisees and the Sadducees were both religious sects within

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Judaism during the time of Christ, but they disagreed about certain things.

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Paul knew he was not about to get a fair hearing, so he decided to use the

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principle of divide and conquer by making a loud statement before the Sanhedrin.

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He used the present tense to describe himself as a Pharisee, because in his

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basic theology he still was a Pharisee, and he was also a Pharisee by heritage.

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He said, I stand on trial because of the hope of the resurrection of the dead.

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The real issue was the hope and resurrection of Jesus.

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Paul knew that the Pharisees and Sadducees disagreed about

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the possibility of resurrection.

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When he said this, a dispute broke out between the Pharisees and the

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Sadducees and the assembly was divided.

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The Sadducees say that there is no resurrection and that there are neither

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angels nor spirits, but the Pharisees believe in all of these things.

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Paul's plot accomplished its goal.

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When he was done speaking, a dispute broke out between the Pharisees and Sadducees

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over the issue of the Resurrection.

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There was a great uproar and some of the teachers of the law, who were

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Pharisees, stood up and argued vigorously.

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We find nothing wrong with this man, they said.

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What if a spirit or an angel has spoken to him?

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The dispute became so violent that the commander was afraid Paul

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would be torn to pieces by them.

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He ordered the troops to go down and take him away from them by force and

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bring them, bring him into the barracks.

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The commander had to react because he was responsible for the safety of

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all Roman citizens, so he basically took matters into his own hands

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and commanded the soldiers to go down and use force to get Paul out.

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The troops were to bring him into the Antonio Fortress.

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The following night, the Lord stood near Paul and said, Take courage, as you

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have testified about me in Jerusalem, so you must also testify in Rome.

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And it's actually this last verse that I want to focus on, and I want

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to bring a couple of things out of it.

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The first is this.

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Sometimes trouble comes not because we've turned our backs on God and

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are out of his will, but because we're right in the will of God, doing

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the right thing at the right time.

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Verse 11 says that God stood near Paul and spoke to him.

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I don't know if that's with an audible voice, a vision, or just

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with a strong sense in Paul's spirit.

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One thing the Lord doesn't do is he doesn't have a go at Paul

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for being in trouble again.

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Paul's in trouble because he's doing exactly what God wants him to do.

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So sometimes we can have trouble because of our faith, not in spite of it.

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If you're following God because someone told you it would give you a

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trouble free life, you've been missold.

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This is not the good news about Jesus.

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If you're considering whether or not to follow Jesus, know that following

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him doesn't mean a trouble free life.

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But it is a life worth living.

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To be honest, you're going to have some kind of trouble

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whether or not you follow him.

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Better to have trouble with God on your side, rather than to have

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trouble with God against you.

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Secondly, God told Paul to be courageous, that is, to have courage.

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Some translations translate it as be of good cheer.

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The words were spoken to him when he was in a very fear inducing situation.

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We may not all be in prison, but we all have situations in our lives at times that

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make us fearful or are very difficult.

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Paul is told to take courage.

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Taking courage doesn't necessarily mean that the feeling of fear no longer exists.

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After all, we walk by faith, not by feeling.

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The dictionary describes courage as the ability to do something

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that frightens one, or bravery.

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Or strength in the face of pain or grief.

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Or the ability to control your fear in dangerous or difficult situations.

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So the phrase Take Courage suggests something active, not passive.

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It suggests a choice.

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We can choose to give in to fear, or we can choose to face the

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situations that make us afraid.

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We can choose to do what is right.

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Even if that is costly.

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I went on a bit of a rabbit hole, or rabbit trail, of looking up

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other passages in the Bible that use this phrase take courage, or

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where it says to be courageous.

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And I noticed a pattern.

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The command is always followed by a reason to be courageous.

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And the reason is never that we're enough on our own.

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The reason is always to do with God's presence, or his promises, or both.

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For example, a verse in Deuteronomy says this, Be strong and courageous, do not

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be afraid or terrified because of them, for the Lord your God goes with you, he

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will never leave you nor forsake you.

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In this verse, the reason given to be courageous is that God is with

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the person and won't leave him.

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I was talking with a friend recently and she gave me an example from her own

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life where her son had courage because he was aware of God being with him.

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She doesn't want to be named but is happy for me to share the story.

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So the gist of it is that not long after her son was born he developed a

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cyst on his spine and he spent a lot of time in hospital and the doctors

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said that he could end up paralysed.

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He was operated on and the operation was a success and they were told

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that the cyst would not come back.

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It did come back and he was operated on again.

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And more recently, the cyst came back again and my friend's son had to have

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an MRI scan where he had to lie still in the scanner for quite some time.

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It can be quite scary to be in such an enclosed space for so long, and

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my friend was worried about her son being scared in the scanner.

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The thing is, over the years of his short life, because of his

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health problems, he had learnt to pray and to know God's presence.

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He wasn't worried, he said, Mum, how can I be scared when God's with me?

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How great is the faith of children.

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The last verse of the passage we looked at before says this, The

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following night the Lord stood near Paul and said, Take courage.

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As you have testified about me in Jerusalem, so you

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must also testify in Rome.

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So this time the reason God gives to have courage is a promise about the future.

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He was basically saying you'll survive this current

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incident and you'll go to Rome.

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This is an example of how remembering God's promises can give us courage.

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Years ago when my mind was one big mess, I felt like giving up on faith.

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The following verses gave me courage to continue.

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Jesus said, if you hold to my teaching, you're really my disciples.

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Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.

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Eventually, as I dug into God's word and started to understand who he

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was, and who he made me to be, and how life operated, the freedom he

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talked about became my experience.

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More recently I needed to confront someone about something, and like

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most people, I don't particularly like confrontation, but I knew I had to do it.

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However, I didn't have peace about how to go about it, and I

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was worried about the outcome.

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I prayed a lot about it, and I talked to a few friends, and then

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one friend said one sentence that I just knew was the way ahead.

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I felt like I'd heard from God, it gave me such clarity and I just had

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peace about how to handle the situation and peace that even if it all blew

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up in my face, that God was bigger.

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Jesus had the courage to face dying on a cross because of

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looking ahead to what was promised.

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Hebrews says this, Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by

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so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight and the

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sin which so easily ensnares us.

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And let us from with endurance the race that is set before us looking unto Jesus,

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the author and finish of a finisher of our faith, who, for the joy that

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was set before him, endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down

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at the right hand of the throne of God.

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We're in the lead up to Christmas.

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Now when we think about God coming to earth in the form of Jesus,

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it's a time when we remember God's presence with us and his promises.

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The Bible prophesied Jesus coming centuries before he

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actually came with these words.

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Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign, the Virgin will conceive and give

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birth to a son and will call him Immanuel.

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Immanuel means God with us.

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The Christmas story also gives us example of people of courage.

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Mary had courage.

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An angel appeared to her and told her she would supernaturally have a baby.

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She wasn't married.

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She hadn't slept with anyone.

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She'd have a bit of explaining to do to her fiancé and risked being an

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outcast in society and yet her response was to say, I'm the Lord's servant,

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may your word to me be fulfilled.

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She had courage, but Joseph, her fiancé, also had courage.

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Mary's pregnancy could have been a source of great shame to him in

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the community, but he stood by her.

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What situations are you facing now where you need to choose courage?

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If you're already a Christ follower.

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Know that God is with you even if you can't feel it, and he's

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promised never to leave you.

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Have you asked him what his promises are for your situation?

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Keep going, don't give up.

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Or maybe you know someone who's struggling that needs your

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encouragement to keep going.

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The Bible tells us to encourage one another.

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It says, For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive

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salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.

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He died for us so that whether we are awake or asleep, we

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may live together with him.

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Therefore, Encourage one another and build each other up

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just as in fact you're doing.

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Let's remind each other of God's presence and his promises.

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If you're thinking about being a Christ follower, maybe you need

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courage to take that final step.

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It can be a scary step, maybe like Mary and Joseph, you'd face ridicule

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or shame from your community.

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Have courage, look beyond yourself to the one who will

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make all things right in the end.

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As Christ followers, we have hope for this life, but we also have

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a hope for the life after death.

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An eternal life that we get to spend with our loving Heavenly Father.

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I'll leave you with these words about this life from Revelation.

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He will wipe away every tear from their eyes.

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There'll be no more death, or mourning, or crying, or pain, for the

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old order of things has passed away.

Dan Orange:

Wow, we've just got to get rid of our massive headphones,

Dan Orange:

we've got a headphone problem.

Dan Orange:

That was an amazing talk, wasn't it?

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I think well, what things firstly?

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Stood out to you, Ruth.

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I have to go backwards, because

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the one before she ruined my memory.

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I liked how she Sharon was talking about courage.

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And I think, I don't know when, like what she said about courage

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being an action, not passive.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah, to have courage is not the absence of anything, but it's

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the choice.

Dan Orange:

Yeah, I think, yeah, if you think about perhaps, I don't know I like watching

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war films of World War One and you say, oh, that person had courage and

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it wasn't the fact that the situation they were in, it's because of what

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they did in that situation, wasn't it?

Dan Orange:

Yeah, I

Sharon Edmundson:

just, I don't know if this is relevant or not, I

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literally just watched Braveheart when William

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Wallace is waiting to be, of that horrible death and torture and,

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and he admits in his cell that he's afraid.

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There we go, try that.

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He admits in

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himself that he's afraid, but he knows still what he's got to do.

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And he's, he's got to do it and he can't deny what, who

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he is and what he's stood for.

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So it's, yeah, courage is action.

Ruth Orange:

I like what Sharon said with that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, but I also think it's really freeing.

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Courage when you're with Jesus is freeing, isn't it?

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Because, courage on our own.

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It's too much, I think, it's too hard, but with Jesus, we can have courage because

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he's told us we can, because he's with us, therefore, he's bigger than us, therefore,

Ruth Orange:

Yeah,

Dan Orange:

it's before we can do it.

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Yeah, I know, we've got that, we've got him behind us and

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in front of us, haven't we?

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So we can stand up for something knowing.

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tHat he's got our back and like in Paul's case, in Jesus case, even in the worst

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situation, they both died because of this, but that, but they went into glory.

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They did it because it, God is over all and it's worth it.

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Does that make sense?

Dan Orange:

Yeah, I think if you come here Ruth, we'll just have to get a bit closer

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because it's just, it's going in and out.

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It's not really picking up.

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There we go.

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Sorry.

Dan Orange:

It's like we're on one of those um, radio show and we'll just have

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to get, I've got my notes here.

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Yeah and Sharon said.

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Obviously there's troubles in this world.

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We were talking before about our granddad passed away this week and

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we've both been to an amazing lady's funeral on on Thursday and she died

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way too soon but she knew Jesus.

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Yeah.

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We have that huge loss.

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And the family have that huge loss, but they know that she loved God, she's

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with him and we will see her again.

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And that's not, we're not here to tell you about a pie in the sky type thing.

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This hope that's a wish.

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I often talk when I'm talking to people about Jesus and we, in, in.

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In the Bible, in church, we often talk about this word hope.

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And in our English translations, often hope can be translated

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as a bit like a wish.

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Ah, I hope that happens.

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I hope I have pizza for tea.

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But we have a hope.

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And the Bible says it's a hope that's steadfast and certain it's

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something that we can rely on.

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And that's.

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Why I want to bring this message.

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Yeah,

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that's the freeing thing, isn't it?

Ruth Orange:

Yeah.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah, it's true.

Dan Orange:

I think Sharon said it's better to have trouble

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with God than without God.

Dan Orange:

Yeah, I like that.

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And I always think that, I think, I'm so glad I'm going through stuff.

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Life is hard.

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I've got loads of things in our life and family going on at the moment.

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I'm glad that I do that.

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alongside Jesus.

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We're not doing it on our own because he's good.

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He has got answers for us, he's got guidance for us.

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Fear will hold you prisoner, hope will set you free.

Dan Orange:

Yeah.

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Jesus said truth casts out all, perfect love casts out all fear, doesn't he?

Dan Orange:

Because he is that.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah.

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And it's not a wish.

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It's not a wishy thing.

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It's like people say, Oh, it's a religion or Christianity or whatever.

Ruth Orange:

It's a crutch.

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But it's not making excuses.

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I think when trouble comes, when things are awful, like somebody you love dies.

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We're not just It's great that we can rely on God.

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Yeah, and we're not and we're not wishing it away and saying that it doesn't hurt.

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But there's, we know the one that we love and trust is bigger and somehow

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we know there's more and there's an eternity and somehow we will get through

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it because he promised that we will, he promised that we will get through it.

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He promised that it will be our comforter and his promises are

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true, truer than anybody else's.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah, so it's going through, sometimes it's going through things like that,

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that when you learn more about, about Jesus and about life and how much you

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can trust him or not, if you don't prove something, you don't know if it's going

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to hold you, do you, does it, do you?

Ruth Orange:

Yeah.

Dan Orange:

Yeah.

Dan Orange:

I love that little boy's words.

Dan Orange:

How could I be scared?

Dan Orange:

God is with us.

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He's been there before.

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He's looked after me.

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How can I be scared?

Dan Orange:

Yep.

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And then that's not to say we aren't.

Dan Orange:

I'm scared, but everything we go through, we can learn more about how

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to rely on him, how to lean on him.

Dan Orange:

Yeah.

Ruth Orange:

He's fully reliable.

Ruth Orange:

He's strong enough,

Dan Orange:

yeah.

Dan Orange:

Was there anything else you wrote down in your notes?

Ruth Orange:

I like how Paul is talk talks how talk, how he talks

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to them, the religious leaders.

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Like he really, he doesn't soften anything, does he?

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He is a real, yeah.

Ruth Orange:

He really says it as he is, as it is and cause him hypocrites

Ruth Orange:

and yeah, I just he, yeah.

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He doesn't pussy foot around anybody.

Ruth Orange:

Because he knows the truth and he doesn't wanna compromise the truth.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah.

Ruth Orange:

So with the whitewashed wall thing, I think when Sharon just, Sharon explained

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it like something that was going to be something that was in disrepair, but

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was painted to make like it wasn't, I've never seen it like that before.

Ruth Orange:

That's really good.

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Yeah.

Ruth Orange:

I guess that's what a hypocrite is.

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Somebody that's or something or somebody that's in disrepair,

Ruth Orange:

but is made to look all right.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah.

Ruth Orange:

So you can't tell people things by the surface, can you?

Ruth Orange:

Yeah, I guess that's why the Bible tells us not to judge.

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People, because you can't tell things

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by the surface.

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God's the only judge because he can tell.

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He can look at our hearts rather than our actions and what's on the outside.

Dan Orange:

The, right at the beginning Sharon talked about the dispute that was going on and we

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can have disputes and things in our life.

Dan Orange:

I'm doing the talk in a few weeks time.

Dan Orange:

And Paul then uses the same tactic.

Dan Orange:

He, I say tactic, he just listens to God and God gives him some

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insight into the situation.

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Sometimes we're not just to sit back.

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We are to say and speak the truth.

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And that might be just the situation he was in.

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Paul just said I'm a Pharisee.

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And half of them were like Oh, okay.

Dan Orange:

That makes things a little bit different here.

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Don't be afraid to say what you are, what God's done in you and ask him for wisdom.

Dan Orange:

I love doing these talks because I'm talking now to you, but

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I'm talking to me as well.

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Because in my life, I just got to go, yeah, that's what I need to do.

Dan Orange:

It's so easy, isn't it to miss out on what God's got because

Dan Orange:

we're trying to do things without him, even though we know him.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah.

Ruth Orange:

No, that's good.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah.

Ruth Orange:

Cause he you said something then that made me think of something.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah, you could, he could have got himself, he maybe could have got

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himself out of trouble, couldn't he?

Ruth Orange:

By by being a bit nicer, yes.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah, but he couldn't because that would be untruthful to himself

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and to the spirit that was in him.

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And

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God said to him I need you because I need you

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to take this message to Rome.

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So he knew that he had something to do there, some further thing

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to go, that God is with us.

Dan Orange:

If you've got any questions, if you've got any prayer requests, so what

Dan Orange:

we mean by that is, if you've got.

Dan Orange:

Anything in your life that you're struggling with, if you need healing,

Dan Orange:

if you're worried about a situation, um, if you don't know this Jesus, please

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just email in the website is crowd.

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church, and on there you can email you can send us a WhatsApp, that

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comes through to the team, so we'll get straight on it um, and praying.

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It's, that's what being church is.

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is about.

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And that's why it's great that we can have Crowd Church, because um, you guys might

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not get to hear what's, what's going on.

Dan Orange:

So we can.

Dan Orange:

Yeah.

Dan Orange:

Bring this message.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah.

Ruth Orange:

And I, yeah I actually do love it because, um, he's the answer to everything

Ruth Orange:

and life gets so complicated, isn't complicated and there's so much, so

Ruth Orange:

many things to navigate out there, but he's, he is, he's the answer to

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everything and not like a sweeping statement kind of thing where we think,

Ruth Orange:

Oh, everything's going to be all right, but somehow he's answer to everything.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah, I do believe that because that's what it's been in our lives.

Ruth Orange:

I think that's what I was going to say about when you were talking about

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Paul, like he didn't, he talks about his own experience and he talked

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about who he was and what he knew.

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And you can't argue with that.

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If it's your own experience in your life, it's pretty hard to argue, isn't it?

Ruth Orange:

And yeah, in all my life he's always been the answer every single time

Ruth Orange:

to work stuff to personal stuff.

Ruth Orange:

To, to being lost, I get lost a lot

Sharon Edmundson:

and it, and

Ruth Orange:

it all, even with Sadaf, yes.

Ruth Orange:

And it always, it just, yeah, always gets me found again.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah he's the answer to everything.

Dan Orange:

I love that when God spoke to Paul, he said he stood near

Dan Orange:

Paul, just that knowledge that God It's with us, not in a what's that?

Dan Orange:

Is it a Cliff Richard song where he talks about God looking down?

Dan Orange:

Yes yeah.

Ruth Orange:

I can't remember the

Dan Orange:

words, but God is lit, he's miles and miles away.

Dan Orange:

God is watching us.

Dan Orange:

God is watching us, and he is watching us, but he, if you ask

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him, he will stand next to you.

Dan Orange:

And that it's awesome, isn't it?

Ruth Orange:

Yeah yeah, like the story of the three blokes in the fire, when

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they get chucked in the fire because they don't, they weren't going to

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bow down to anybody else, only God.

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And it says they came out and they didn't even smell of the fire.

Ruth Orange:

I don't know why that just came into my head then, but because, but then they

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said that there was three people chucked in, but they saw four people in there.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah.

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And one of them was the Lord, wasn't it?

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Wasn't it?

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Because he was in there, in the fire with them, in the trouble with

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them, and they came out and they didn't even smell of the smoke.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah, he's not somebody that's just watching from afar.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah, so

Dan Orange:

I've read that in the book of Daniel.

Dan Orange:

Oh,

Ruth Orange:

well done.

Ruth Orange:

Oh

Dan Orange:

yeah, of course.

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Not named after me, I was named after that Daniel.

Dan Orange:

And again Sharon at the end talked about Emmanuel, which means God is with us.

Dan Orange:

It's Christmas at the moment, and you'll probably see that, plastered

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around on cards and things, and it is that, that God is with us.

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He didn't come, He came to earth as a child, as a baby,

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so He could live with us.

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He didn't come in as God who hadn't experienced pain and Suffering and just

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life became God incarnate, God as man with us to go through this with us.

Dan Orange:

That's the difference between other religions and stories is

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this God that was before everything came to be with us, Emmanuel.

Dan Orange:

Let's see if there's any Matt said, yeah, we're brothers and

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sisters, we're not going to Yeah,

Ruth Orange:

thanks for clarifying that, Matt.

Dan Orange:

Sorry, very big

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silence there.

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The one of the very first things Sharon said was that

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he's the source of all goodness.

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And that, yeah that's true.

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Everything good comes from God.

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Everything good.

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And I can't remember what I was watching the other day, and oh, it was

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these two people in this silly film but one of them was saying he doesn't

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believe in God, but he believes in his family, he believes in himself, he

Ruth Orange:

believes in love, and I just thought where do you think love comes from?

Ruth Orange:

God is love, he invented love he is he's the epitome of love yeah, it didn't

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just, Come out of nowhere and yeah, I think we forget, sometimes we think we're

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bigger than him and we're better than him and because we don't challenge or, I

Ruth Orange:

don't know but yeah he is love and love looks different sometimes, doesn't it?

Ruth Orange:

But it's,

Sharon Edmundson:

yeah,

Dan Orange:

he is.

Dan Orange:

I've been reading C.

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S.

Dan Orange:

Lewis and Mere Christianity.

Dan Orange:

It's an amazing book.

Dan Orange:

He's, I like him because he's very logical, is how I think, and he said

Dan Orange:

yeah, in the world, there are good things, there are good people that don't know

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Jesus, because God is good, God created this world, and he permeates through

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everything, yes, we have illness and sickness and sin has come in, but our

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God is there, and that's why he says.

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Come and know me in the fullest, know me to the max, John 1010

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says that doesn't he, I'll give you a life in all its fullness.

Dan Orange:

So yeah, come and know this great creator.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah, you can see bits of him everywhere in nature and in people.

Ruth Orange:

Yeah, but there's just glimpses, isn't it?

Ruth Orange:

Yeah.

Dan Orange:

Come and know him fully.

Dan Orange:

We're coming to the end of our time here.

Dan Orange:

Next week we've got Matt Edmundson and it's it's Christmas Eve next

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week so it's a non live stream.

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So the talk will be on but there won't be any host doing questions.

Dan Orange:

Still if you've got questions then please just put them in the comments because

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there's always someone that will love to answer those and get back to you.

Dan Orange:

It's been As always, a fun tech week, I do.

Ruth Orange:

It's me Dan, I've got this weird electrical impulse,

Ruth Orange:

sorry everybody, that as soon as I come near anything techy it goes

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wrong, so you can blame me for that

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bit.

Dan Orange:

Thanks Ruth, thanks for joining us.

Dan Orange:

Thanks everyone for coming on in the comments.

Dan Orange:

Oh, sorry, just looking at a comment that came up.

Dan Orange:

Thanks for Yeah, thanks for everyone in the comments, and have an

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amazing Christmas if we don't, if there is no hosting before then.

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And again, if you want to know anything, anything more about this

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amazing Jesus, about this amazing God, please contact us on the WhatsApp or

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by email, and we'll see you next time.

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