Are you tired of feeling like fear has a vice-like grip on your life? Does the daily news leave you feeling more anxious than informed? You're not alone. In a world that often feels like it's spinning out of control, finding a foothold of peace can seem like an uphill battle. But what if there's a way to turn that fear into courage and find strength in places you've never looked before? Our latest talk, "Overcome Fear: Find Courage with God's Promise," isn't just another sermon. It's a heart-to-heart conversation, a journey through the chaos of modern life, guided by the timeless wisdom of the Bible.
👉 What you'll discover in this talk:
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Dan Orange:hEllo, everyone.
Dan Orange:We had a little, always have a technical issue when we start.
Dan Orange:We had a headphone problem.
Dan Orange:So I'm here today with my sister Ruth.
Dan Orange:Sister family, like orange sister, not, she's a sister in Christ, but
Dan Orange:my sister, actual sister as well.
Dan Orange:Yes, that is always fun.
Dan Orange:Is it with you?
Dan Orange:He's just bound his
Ruth Orange:leg
Dan Orange:on the table.
Dan Orange:Yes, I smacked my leg on the slide underneath.
Dan Orange:Um, we were talking before, our week's been a bit interesting, hasn't it?
Dan Orange:Yeah, not the easiest week we've ever had.
Dan Orange:So I spoke last week that my granddad became a Christian, basically,
Dan Orange:when my grandma died, she was 101.
Dan Orange:Grandad's 98.
Dan Orange:And he waited all that time, and then realized he needed to give
Dan Orange:his life to God, which he did.
Dan Orange:And he died on Monday morning.
Dan Orange:Yeah.
Dan Orange:So it's been a It's been a hard few weeks, but,
Dan Orange:Yeah, but it's great to know that he and grandma are now in heaven.
Dan Orange:It makes things still a loss, but it makes things very different.
Dan Orange:This is why we do this, because we want to tell people, we
Dan Orange:want to tell you about Jesus.
Dan Orange:He's the answer.
Dan Orange:To all of our problems, doesn't mean that life isn't tricky
Dan Orange:and hard, it's just true.
Dan Orange:So I think let's get straight into the talk.
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Dan Orange:Oh, Ruth's mic, I think she's just not talking into it very good.
Dan Orange:We'll adjust that for Conversation Street.
Dan Orange:Yeah.
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Dan Orange:We'll do our best to answer them, but here we have the wonderful
Dan Orange:Sharon Edmundson talking.
Dan Orange:So let's have a listen.
Sharon Edmundson:Do you listen to the news?
Sharon Edmundson:How does it make you feel?
Sharon Edmundson:Happy?
Sharon Edmundson:I doubt it.
Sharon Edmundson:In the UK, the news is full of fighting within our government
Sharon Edmundson:and fighting between nations.
Sharon Edmundson:It's full of bad news of all kinds.
Sharon Edmundson:It can leave us feeling depressed, cynical and fearful.
Sharon Edmundson:I wonder what things in the current news make you the most anxious or fearful.
Sharon Edmundson:Or maybe the things in the news don't impact you directly, but you have other
Sharon Edmundson:difficult situations in your life.
Sharon Edmundson:Does the Bible have anything to say about all this?
Sharon Edmundson:I believe it does.
Sharon Edmundson:It explains why we have trouble in the world and it gives us insights
Sharon Edmundson:that help us to navigate it.
Sharon Edmundson:I'm going to pick up on this through today's Bible reading.
Sharon Edmundson:Sometimes we have trouble just from living in a world that's cursed and decaying.
Sharon Edmundson:The book of Genesis tells us that when God created the world, it was good,
Sharon Edmundson:but soon after it came under a curse.
Sharon Edmundson:So some of the trouble we have in life is because we live in a cursed
Sharon Edmundson:world that isn't working completely how it was designed to work.
Sharon Edmundson:For example, maybe you're suffering from illness through no fault of your own.
Sharon Edmundson:Let's be honest, some of the trouble in our lives is because of our own
Sharon Edmundson:stupidity, bad decisions or sin.
Sharon Edmundson:Now sin is a Bible word for our rebellion against God and his ways.
Sharon Edmundson:Some of the trouble in my life has been caused by getting into relationships
Sharon Edmundson:that I knew weren't right or making silly financial decisions and getting into debt.
Sharon Edmundson:Some of our trouble is caused by the sin of other people, for example the child
Sharon Edmundson:who's knocked over by the drunk driver.
Sharon Edmundson:Or the war caused by pride and greed and selfishness of others.
Sharon Edmundson:Some of it's caused by a mixture of the above.
Sharon Edmundson:For example, where poorer people are affected much more from adverse weather
Sharon Edmundson:conditions because they're living in poor quality housing in areas that
Sharon Edmundson:are more susceptible to disaster.
Sharon Edmundson:Some of our trouble is caused by walking away from God.
Sharon Edmundson:He's good and all his ways are good.
Sharon Edmundson:The Bible says that every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from
Sharon Edmundson:the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.
Sharon Edmundson:When we turn our backs on God, we turn our backs on the source of all goodness.
Sharon Edmundson:But there's another reason that we can have trouble in our lives, as we'll
Sharon Edmundson:see when we read today's passage.
Sharon Edmundson:Today we're going to look at yet another part of the life of a guy
Sharon Edmundson:called Paul, formerly known as Saul, where he is in trouble yet again.
Sharon Edmundson:If you're new to Crowd or the Christian faith, let me give you some background.
Sharon Edmundson:Saul was a very religious Jew who had been so passionate about his faith that he
Sharon Edmundson:had approved of Christians being killed.
Sharon Edmundson:And he believed they were teaching what they were teaching was wrong
Sharon Edmundson:and would draw people away from God.
Sharon Edmundson:But he then had a dramatic experience of God where Jesus appeared to
Sharon Edmundson:him in a vision and basically told him that what he what the
Sharon Edmundson:Christians were teaching was true.
Sharon Edmundson:That although he'd been passionately religious, he'd been passionately wrong.
Sharon Edmundson:So he too became a follower of Jesus and went on a few missionary
Sharon Edmundson:journeys to spread the message getting into lots of trouble on the way.
Sharon Edmundson:Today he's in trouble again.
Sharon Edmundson:He's been teaching in the temple in Jerusalem for seven days.
Sharon Edmundson:When another group of Jews stirred up the crowd against him and falsely accused
Sharon Edmundson:him, they dragged him out of the temple with the intention of killing him.
Sharon Edmundson:However, the Romans, who were the occupying force at the time,
Sharon Edmundson:got wind of what was going on and heard the city was in uproar.
Sharon Edmundson:Soldiers and centurions were sent to intervene.
Sharon Edmundson:They took Paul to their barracks to be interviewed and whipped.
Sharon Edmundson:As he was about to be whipped, Paul dropped in the fact that he was a Roman
Sharon Edmundson:citizen, which scared the commander and the other soldiers, as it was
Sharon Edmundson:illegal to scourge a Roman citizen.
Sharon Edmundson:And this is where we pick up the story today.
Sharon Edmundson:I'll explain as we go on, and then focus on one verse at the end.
Sharon Edmundson:The commander wanted to find out exactly why Paul was being accused by the Jews,
Sharon Edmundson:so the next day he released him and ordered the chief priests and all the
Sharon Edmundson:members of the Sanhedrin to assemble.
Sharon Edmundson:Then he brought Paul and had him stand before them.
Sharon Edmundson:Now this was not a trial, the purpose of this was to see if
Sharon Edmundson:there was a case for a trial.
Sharon Edmundson:So Paul looked straight at the Sanhedrin and said, My brothers, I fulfilled my duty
Sharon Edmundson:to God in all good conscience to this day.
Sharon Edmundson:At this, the high priest and Ananias ordered those standing near
Sharon Edmundson:Paul to strike him on the mouth.
Sharon Edmundson:Now, Ananias means Jehovah is Gracious, but actually, he had a
Sharon Edmundson:reputation for being a bit of a tyran.
Sharon Edmundson:Then Paul said to him, God will strike you, you whitewashed wall.
Sharon Edmundson:You sit there to judge me according to the law, yet you yourself violate the
Sharon Edmundson:law by commanding that I be struck.
Sharon Edmundson:So Paul compared the high priest to a badly maintained and unsafe wall that was
Sharon Edmundson:made to look okay with a lick of paint.
Sharon Edmundson:Basically, Paul was calling Ananias a hypocrite.
Sharon Edmundson:Ananias was there to judge Paul's case on the basis of Jewish law,
Sharon Edmundson:and yet he was ordering actions that went contrary to the law.
Sharon Edmundson:So Ananias violated both Jewish and Roman law.
Sharon Edmundson:Those who were standing near Paul said, How dare you insult God's high priest?
Sharon Edmundson:Paul replied, Brothers, I did not realize that he was the high priest,
Sharon Edmundson:for it is written, Do not speak evil about the ruler of your people.
Sharon Edmundson:There are several reasons that Paul might not have realized that
Sharon Edmundson:Ananias was the high priest, but I don't want to get into them here.
Sharon Edmundson:So then Paul, knowing that some of them were Sadducees and others Pharisees,
Sharon Edmundson:called out in the Sanhedrin, My brothers, I'm a Pharisee descended from Pharisees.
Sharon Edmundson:So the Pharisees and the Sadducees were both religious sects within
Sharon Edmundson:Judaism during the time of Christ, but they disagreed about certain things.
Sharon Edmundson:Paul knew he was not about to get a fair hearing, so he decided to use the
Sharon Edmundson:principle of divide and conquer by making a loud statement before the Sanhedrin.
Sharon Edmundson:He used the present tense to describe himself as a Pharisee, because in his
Sharon Edmundson:basic theology he still was a Pharisee, and he was also a Pharisee by heritage.
Sharon Edmundson:He said, I stand on trial because of the hope of the resurrection of the dead.
Sharon Edmundson:The real issue was the hope and resurrection of Jesus.
Sharon Edmundson:Paul knew that the Pharisees and Sadducees disagreed about
Sharon Edmundson:the possibility of resurrection.
Sharon Edmundson:When he said this, a dispute broke out between the Pharisees and the
Sharon Edmundson:Sadducees and the assembly was divided.
Sharon Edmundson:The Sadducees say that there is no resurrection and that there are neither
Sharon Edmundson:angels nor spirits, but the Pharisees believe in all of these things.
Sharon Edmundson:Paul's plot accomplished its goal.
Sharon Edmundson:When he was done speaking, a dispute broke out between the Pharisees and Sadducees
Sharon Edmundson:over the issue of the Resurrection.
Sharon Edmundson:There was a great uproar and some of the teachers of the law, who were
Sharon Edmundson:Pharisees, stood up and argued vigorously.
Sharon Edmundson:We find nothing wrong with this man, they said.
Sharon Edmundson:What if a spirit or an angel has spoken to him?
Sharon Edmundson:The dispute became so violent that the commander was afraid Paul
Sharon Edmundson:would be torn to pieces by them.
Sharon Edmundson:He ordered the troops to go down and take him away from them by force and
Sharon Edmundson:bring them, bring him into the barracks.
Sharon Edmundson:The commander had to react because he was responsible for the safety of
Sharon Edmundson:all Roman citizens, so he basically took matters into his own hands
Sharon Edmundson:and commanded the soldiers to go down and use force to get Paul out.
Sharon Edmundson:The troops were to bring him into the Antonio Fortress.
Sharon Edmundson:The following night, the Lord stood near Paul and said, Take courage, as you
Sharon Edmundson:have testified about me in Jerusalem, so you must also testify in Rome.
Sharon Edmundson:And it's actually this last verse that I want to focus on, and I want
Sharon Edmundson:to bring a couple of things out of it.
Sharon Edmundson:The first is this.
Sharon Edmundson:Sometimes trouble comes not because we've turned our backs on God and
Sharon Edmundson:are out of his will, but because we're right in the will of God, doing
Sharon Edmundson:the right thing at the right time.
Sharon Edmundson:Verse 11 says that God stood near Paul and spoke to him.
Sharon Edmundson:I don't know if that's with an audible voice, a vision, or just
Sharon Edmundson:with a strong sense in Paul's spirit.
Sharon Edmundson:One thing the Lord doesn't do is he doesn't have a go at Paul
Sharon Edmundson:for being in trouble again.
Sharon Edmundson:Paul's in trouble because he's doing exactly what God wants him to do.
Sharon Edmundson:So sometimes we can have trouble because of our faith, not in spite of it.
Sharon Edmundson:If you're following God because someone told you it would give you a
Sharon Edmundson:trouble free life, you've been missold.
Sharon Edmundson:This is not the good news about Jesus.
Sharon Edmundson:If you're considering whether or not to follow Jesus, know that following
Sharon Edmundson:him doesn't mean a trouble free life.
Sharon Edmundson:But it is a life worth living.
Sharon Edmundson:To be honest, you're going to have some kind of trouble
Sharon Edmundson:whether or not you follow him.
Sharon Edmundson:Better to have trouble with God on your side, rather than to have
Sharon Edmundson:trouble with God against you.
Sharon Edmundson:Secondly, God told Paul to be courageous, that is, to have courage.
Sharon Edmundson:Some translations translate it as be of good cheer.
Sharon Edmundson:The words were spoken to him when he was in a very fear inducing situation.
Sharon Edmundson:We may not all be in prison, but we all have situations in our lives at times that
Sharon Edmundson:make us fearful or are very difficult.
Sharon Edmundson:Paul is told to take courage.
Sharon Edmundson:Taking courage doesn't necessarily mean that the feeling of fear no longer exists.
Sharon Edmundson:After all, we walk by faith, not by feeling.
Sharon Edmundson:The dictionary describes courage as the ability to do something
Sharon Edmundson:that frightens one, or bravery.
Sharon Edmundson:Or strength in the face of pain or grief.
Sharon Edmundson:Or the ability to control your fear in dangerous or difficult situations.
Sharon Edmundson:So the phrase Take Courage suggests something active, not passive.
Sharon Edmundson:It suggests a choice.
Sharon Edmundson:We can choose to give in to fear, or we can choose to face the
Sharon Edmundson:situations that make us afraid.
Sharon Edmundson:We can choose to do what is right.
Sharon Edmundson:Even if that is costly.
Sharon Edmundson:I went on a bit of a rabbit hole, or rabbit trail, of looking up
Sharon Edmundson:other passages in the Bible that use this phrase take courage, or
Sharon Edmundson:where it says to be courageous.
Sharon Edmundson:And I noticed a pattern.
Sharon Edmundson:The command is always followed by a reason to be courageous.
Sharon Edmundson:And the reason is never that we're enough on our own.
Sharon Edmundson:The reason is always to do with God's presence, or his promises, or both.
Sharon Edmundson:For example, a verse in Deuteronomy says this, Be strong and courageous, do not
Sharon Edmundson:be afraid or terrified because of them, for the Lord your God goes with you, he
Sharon Edmundson:will never leave you nor forsake you.
Sharon Edmundson:In this verse, the reason given to be courageous is that God is with
Sharon Edmundson:the person and won't leave him.
Sharon Edmundson:I was talking with a friend recently and she gave me an example from her own
Sharon Edmundson:life where her son had courage because he was aware of God being with him.
Sharon Edmundson:She doesn't want to be named but is happy for me to share the story.
Sharon Edmundson:So the gist of it is that not long after her son was born he developed a
Sharon Edmundson:cyst on his spine and he spent a lot of time in hospital and the doctors
Sharon Edmundson:said that he could end up paralysed.
Sharon Edmundson:He was operated on and the operation was a success and they were told
Sharon Edmundson:that the cyst would not come back.
Sharon Edmundson:It did come back and he was operated on again.
Sharon Edmundson:And more recently, the cyst came back again and my friend's son had to have
Sharon Edmundson:an MRI scan where he had to lie still in the scanner for quite some time.
Sharon Edmundson:It can be quite scary to be in such an enclosed space for so long, and
Sharon Edmundson:my friend was worried about her son being scared in the scanner.
Sharon Edmundson:The thing is, over the years of his short life, because of his
Sharon Edmundson:health problems, he had learnt to pray and to know God's presence.
Sharon Edmundson:He wasn't worried, he said, Mum, how can I be scared when God's with me?
Sharon Edmundson:How great is the faith of children.
Sharon Edmundson:The last verse of the passage we looked at before says this, The
Sharon Edmundson:following night the Lord stood near Paul and said, Take courage.
Sharon Edmundson:As you have testified about me in Jerusalem, so you
Sharon Edmundson:must also testify in Rome.
Sharon Edmundson:So this time the reason God gives to have courage is a promise about the future.
Sharon Edmundson:He was basically saying you'll survive this current
Sharon Edmundson:incident and you'll go to Rome.
Sharon Edmundson:This is an example of how remembering God's promises can give us courage.
Sharon Edmundson:Years ago when my mind was one big mess, I felt like giving up on faith.
Sharon Edmundson:The following verses gave me courage to continue.
Sharon Edmundson:Jesus said, if you hold to my teaching, you're really my disciples.
Sharon Edmundson:Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.
Sharon Edmundson:Eventually, as I dug into God's word and started to understand who he
Sharon Edmundson:was, and who he made me to be, and how life operated, the freedom he
Sharon Edmundson:talked about became my experience.
Sharon Edmundson:More recently I needed to confront someone about something, and like
Sharon Edmundson:most people, I don't particularly like confrontation, but I knew I had to do it.
Sharon Edmundson:However, I didn't have peace about how to go about it, and I
Sharon Edmundson:was worried about the outcome.
Sharon Edmundson:I prayed a lot about it, and I talked to a few friends, and then
Sharon Edmundson:one friend said one sentence that I just knew was the way ahead.
Sharon Edmundson:I felt like I'd heard from God, it gave me such clarity and I just had
Sharon Edmundson:peace about how to handle the situation and peace that even if it all blew
Sharon Edmundson:up in my face, that God was bigger.
Sharon Edmundson:Jesus had the courage to face dying on a cross because of
Sharon Edmundson:looking ahead to what was promised.
Sharon Edmundson:Hebrews says this, Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by
Sharon Edmundson:so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight and the
Sharon Edmundson:sin which so easily ensnares us.
Sharon Edmundson:And let us from with endurance the race that is set before us looking unto Jesus,
Sharon Edmundson:the author and finish of a finisher of our faith, who, for the joy that
Sharon Edmundson:was set before him, endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down
Sharon Edmundson:at the right hand of the throne of God.
Sharon Edmundson:We're in the lead up to Christmas.
Sharon Edmundson:Now when we think about God coming to earth in the form of Jesus,
Sharon Edmundson:it's a time when we remember God's presence with us and his promises.
Sharon Edmundson:The Bible prophesied Jesus coming centuries before he
Sharon Edmundson:actually came with these words.
Sharon Edmundson:Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign, the Virgin will conceive and give
Sharon Edmundson:birth to a son and will call him Immanuel.
Sharon Edmundson:Immanuel means God with us.
Sharon Edmundson:The Christmas story also gives us example of people of courage.
Sharon Edmundson:Mary had courage.
Sharon Edmundson:An angel appeared to her and told her she would supernaturally have a baby.
Sharon Edmundson:She wasn't married.
Sharon Edmundson:She hadn't slept with anyone.
Sharon Edmundson:She'd have a bit of explaining to do to her fiancé and risked being an
Sharon Edmundson:outcast in society and yet her response was to say, I'm the Lord's servant,
Sharon Edmundson:may your word to me be fulfilled.
Sharon Edmundson:She had courage, but Joseph, her fiancé, also had courage.
Sharon Edmundson:Mary's pregnancy could have been a source of great shame to him in
Sharon Edmundson:the community, but he stood by her.
Sharon Edmundson:What situations are you facing now where you need to choose courage?
Sharon Edmundson:If you're already a Christ follower.
Sharon Edmundson:Know that God is with you even if you can't feel it, and he's
Sharon Edmundson:promised never to leave you.
Sharon Edmundson:Have you asked him what his promises are for your situation?
Sharon Edmundson:Keep going, don't give up.
Sharon Edmundson:Or maybe you know someone who's struggling that needs your
Sharon Edmundson:encouragement to keep going.
Sharon Edmundson:The Bible tells us to encourage one another.
Sharon Edmundson:It says, For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive
Sharon Edmundson:salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.
Sharon Edmundson:He died for us so that whether we are awake or asleep, we
Sharon Edmundson:may live together with him.
Sharon Edmundson:Therefore, Encourage one another and build each other up
Sharon Edmundson:just as in fact you're doing.
Sharon Edmundson:Let's remind each other of God's presence and his promises.
Sharon Edmundson:If you're thinking about being a Christ follower, maybe you need
Sharon Edmundson:courage to take that final step.
Sharon Edmundson:It can be a scary step, maybe like Mary and Joseph, you'd face ridicule
Sharon Edmundson:or shame from your community.
Sharon Edmundson:Have courage, look beyond yourself to the one who will
Sharon Edmundson:make all things right in the end.
Sharon Edmundson:As Christ followers, we have hope for this life, but we also have
Sharon Edmundson:a hope for the life after death.
Sharon Edmundson:An eternal life that we get to spend with our loving Heavenly Father.
Sharon Edmundson:I'll leave you with these words about this life from Revelation.
Sharon Edmundson:He will wipe away every tear from their eyes.
Sharon Edmundson:There'll be no more death, or mourning, or crying, or pain, for the
Sharon Edmundson:old order of things has passed away.
Dan Orange:Wow, we've just got to get rid of our massive headphones,
Dan Orange:we've got a headphone problem.
Dan Orange:That was an amazing talk, wasn't it?
Dan Orange:I think well, what things firstly?
Dan Orange:Stood out to you, Ruth.
Dan Orange:I have to go backwards, because
Ruth Orange:the one before she ruined my memory.
Ruth Orange:I liked how she Sharon was talking about courage.
Ruth Orange:And I think, I don't know when, like what she said about courage
Ruth Orange:being an action, not passive.
Ruth Orange:Yeah.
Ruth Orange:Yeah, to have courage is not the absence of anything, but it's
Dan Orange:the choice.
Dan Orange:Yeah, I think, yeah, if you think about perhaps, I don't know I like watching
Dan Orange:war films of World War One and you say, oh, that person had courage and
Dan Orange:it wasn't the fact that the situation they were in, it's because of what
Dan Orange:they did in that situation, wasn't it?
Dan Orange:Yeah, I
Sharon Edmundson:just, I don't know if this is relevant or not, I
Ruth Orange:literally just watched Braveheart when William
Ruth Orange:Wallace is waiting to be, of that horrible death and torture and,
Ruth Orange:and he admits in his cell that he's afraid.
Ruth Orange:There we go, try that.
Ruth Orange:He admits in
Ruth Orange:himself that he's afraid, but he knows still what he's got to do.
Ruth Orange:And he's, he's got to do it and he can't deny what, who
Ruth Orange:he is and what he's stood for.
Ruth Orange:So it's, yeah, courage is action.
Ruth Orange:I like what Sharon said with that.
Ruth Orange:Yeah.
Ruth Orange:Yeah, but I also think it's really freeing.
Ruth Orange:Courage when you're with Jesus is freeing, isn't it?
Ruth Orange:Because, courage on our own.
Ruth Orange:It's too much, I think, it's too hard, but with Jesus, we can have courage because
Ruth Orange:he's told us we can, because he's with us, therefore, he's bigger than us, therefore,
Ruth Orange:Yeah,
Dan Orange:it's before we can do it.
Dan Orange:Yeah, I know, we've got that, we've got him behind us and
Dan Orange:in front of us, haven't we?
Dan Orange:So we can stand up for something knowing.
Dan Orange:tHat he's got our back and like in Paul's case, in Jesus case, even in the worst
Dan Orange:situation, they both died because of this, but that, but they went into glory.
Dan Orange:They did it because it, God is over all and it's worth it.
Dan Orange:Does that make sense?
Dan Orange:Yeah, I think if you come here Ruth, we'll just have to get a bit closer
Dan Orange:because it's just, it's going in and out.
Dan Orange:It's not really picking up.
Dan Orange:There we go.
Dan Orange:Sorry.
Dan Orange:It's like we're on one of those um, radio show and we'll just have
Dan Orange:to get, I've got my notes here.
Dan Orange:Yeah and Sharon said.
Dan Orange:Obviously there's troubles in this world.
Dan Orange:We were talking before about our granddad passed away this week and
Dan Orange:we've both been to an amazing lady's funeral on on Thursday and she died
Dan Orange:way too soon but she knew Jesus.
Dan Orange:Yeah.
Dan Orange:We have that huge loss.
Dan Orange:And the family have that huge loss, but they know that she loved God, she's
Dan Orange:with him and we will see her again.
Dan Orange:And that's not, we're not here to tell you about a pie in the sky type thing.
Dan Orange:This hope that's a wish.
Dan Orange:I often talk when I'm talking to people about Jesus and we, in, in.
Dan Orange:In the Bible, in church, we often talk about this word hope.
Dan Orange:And in our English translations, often hope can be translated
Dan Orange:as a bit like a wish.
Dan Orange:Ah, I hope that happens.
Dan Orange:I hope I have pizza for tea.
Dan Orange:But we have a hope.
Dan Orange:And the Bible says it's a hope that's steadfast and certain it's
Dan Orange:something that we can rely on.
Dan Orange:And that's.
Dan Orange:Why I want to bring this message.
Dan Orange:Yeah,
Ruth Orange:that's the freeing thing, isn't it?
Ruth Orange:Yeah.
Ruth Orange:Yeah, it's true.
Dan Orange:I think Sharon said it's better to have trouble
Dan Orange:with God than without God.
Dan Orange:Yeah, I like that.
Dan Orange:And I always think that, I think, I'm so glad I'm going through stuff.
Dan Orange:Life is hard.
Dan Orange:I've got loads of things in our life and family going on at the moment.
Dan Orange:I'm glad that I do that.
Dan Orange:alongside Jesus.
Dan Orange:We're not doing it on our own because he's good.
Dan Orange:He has got answers for us, he's got guidance for us.
Dan Orange:Fear will hold you prisoner, hope will set you free.
Dan Orange:Yeah.
Dan Orange:Jesus said truth casts out all, perfect love casts out all fear, doesn't he?
Dan Orange:Because he is that.
Ruth Orange:Yeah.
Ruth Orange:And it's not a wish.
Ruth Orange:It's not a wishy thing.
Ruth Orange:It's like people say, Oh, it's a religion or Christianity or whatever.
Ruth Orange:It's a crutch.
Ruth Orange:But it's not making excuses.
Ruth Orange:I think when trouble comes, when things are awful, like somebody you love dies.
Ruth Orange:We're not just It's great that we can rely on God.
Ruth Orange:Yeah, and we're not and we're not wishing it away and saying that it doesn't hurt.
Ruth Orange:But there's, we know the one that we love and trust is bigger and somehow
Ruth Orange:we know there's more and there's an eternity and somehow we will get through
Ruth Orange:it because he promised that we will, he promised that we will get through it.
Ruth Orange:He promised that it will be our comforter and his promises are
Ruth Orange:true, truer than anybody else's.
Ruth Orange:Yeah, so it's going through, sometimes it's going through things like that,
Ruth Orange:that when you learn more about, about Jesus and about life and how much you
Ruth Orange:can trust him or not, if you don't prove something, you don't know if it's going
Ruth Orange:to hold you, do you, does it, do you?
Ruth Orange:Yeah.
Dan Orange:Yeah.
Dan Orange:I love that little boy's words.
Dan Orange:How could I be scared?
Dan Orange:God is with us.
Dan Orange:He's been there before.
Dan Orange:He's looked after me.
Dan Orange:How can I be scared?
Dan Orange:Yep.
Dan Orange:And then that's not to say we aren't.
Dan Orange:I'm scared, but everything we go through, we can learn more about how
Dan Orange:to rely on him, how to lean on him.
Dan Orange:Yeah.
Ruth Orange:He's fully reliable.
Ruth Orange:He's strong enough,
Dan Orange:yeah.
Dan Orange:Was there anything else you wrote down in your notes?
Ruth Orange:I like how Paul is talk talks how talk, how he talks
Ruth Orange:to them, the religious leaders.
Ruth Orange:Like he really, he doesn't soften anything, does he?
Ruth Orange:He is a real, yeah.
Ruth Orange:He really says it as he is, as it is and cause him hypocrites
Ruth Orange:and yeah, I just he, yeah.
Ruth Orange:He doesn't pussy foot around anybody.
Ruth Orange:Because he knows the truth and he doesn't wanna compromise the truth.
Ruth Orange:Yeah.
Ruth Orange:Yeah.
Ruth Orange:So with the whitewashed wall thing, I think when Sharon just, Sharon explained
Ruth Orange:it like something that was going to be something that was in disrepair, but
Ruth Orange:was painted to make like it wasn't, I've never seen it like that before.
Ruth Orange:That's really good.
Ruth Orange:Yeah.
Ruth Orange:I guess that's what a hypocrite is.
Ruth Orange:Somebody that's or something or somebody that's in disrepair,
Ruth Orange:but is made to look all right.
Ruth Orange:Yeah.
Ruth Orange:Yeah.
Ruth Orange:Yeah.
Ruth Orange:So you can't tell people things by the surface, can you?
Ruth Orange:Yeah, I guess that's why the Bible tells us not to judge.
Ruth Orange:People, because you can't tell things
Dan Orange:by the surface.
Dan Orange:God's the only judge because he can tell.
Dan Orange:He can look at our hearts rather than our actions and what's on the outside.
Dan Orange:The, right at the beginning Sharon talked about the dispute that was going on and we
Dan Orange:can have disputes and things in our life.
Dan Orange:I'm doing the talk in a few weeks time.
Dan Orange:And Paul then uses the same tactic.
Dan Orange:He, I say tactic, he just listens to God and God gives him some
Dan Orange:insight into the situation.
Dan Orange:Sometimes we're not just to sit back.
Dan Orange:We are to say and speak the truth.
Dan Orange:And that might be just the situation he was in.
Dan Orange:Paul just said I'm a Pharisee.
Dan Orange:And half of them were like Oh, okay.
Dan Orange:That makes things a little bit different here.
Dan Orange:Don't be afraid to say what you are, what God's done in you and ask him for wisdom.
Dan Orange:I love doing these talks because I'm talking now to you, but
Dan Orange:I'm talking to me as well.
Dan Orange:Because in my life, I just got to go, yeah, that's what I need to do.
Dan Orange:It's so easy, isn't it to miss out on what God's got because
Dan Orange:we're trying to do things without him, even though we know him.
Ruth Orange:Yeah.
Ruth Orange:No, that's good.
Ruth Orange:Yeah.
Ruth Orange:Cause he you said something then that made me think of something.
Ruth Orange:Yeah, you could, he could have got himself, he maybe could have got
Ruth Orange:himself out of trouble, couldn't he?
Ruth Orange:By by being a bit nicer, yes.
Ruth Orange:Yeah, but he couldn't because that would be untruthful to himself
Ruth Orange:and to the spirit that was in him.
Ruth Orange:And
Dan Orange:God said to him I need you because I need you
Dan Orange:to take this message to Rome.
Dan Orange:So he knew that he had something to do there, some further thing
Dan Orange:to go, that God is with us.
Dan Orange:If you've got any questions, if you've got any prayer requests, so what
Dan Orange:we mean by that is, if you've got.
Dan Orange:Anything in your life that you're struggling with, if you need healing,
Dan Orange:if you're worried about a situation, um, if you don't know this Jesus, please
Dan Orange:just email in the website is crowd.
Dan Orange:church, and on there you can email you can send us a WhatsApp, that
Dan Orange:comes through to the team, so we'll get straight on it um, and praying.
Dan Orange:It's, that's what being church is.
Dan Orange:is about.
Dan Orange:And that's why it's great that we can have Crowd Church, because um, you guys might
Dan Orange:not get to hear what's, what's going on.
Dan Orange:So we can.
Dan Orange:Yeah.
Dan Orange:Bring this message.
Ruth Orange:Yeah.
Ruth Orange:Yeah.
Ruth Orange:And I, yeah I actually do love it because, um, he's the answer to everything
Ruth Orange:and life gets so complicated, isn't complicated and there's so much, so
Ruth Orange:many things to navigate out there, but he's, he is, he's the answer to
Ruth Orange:everything and not like a sweeping statement kind of thing where we think,
Ruth Orange:Oh, everything's going to be all right, but somehow he's answer to everything.
Ruth Orange:Yeah, I do believe that because that's what it's been in our lives.
Ruth Orange:I think that's what I was going to say about when you were talking about
Ruth Orange:Paul, like he didn't, he talks about his own experience and he talked
Ruth Orange:about who he was and what he knew.
Ruth Orange:And you can't argue with that.
Ruth Orange:If it's your own experience in your life, it's pretty hard to argue, isn't it?
Ruth Orange:And yeah, in all my life he's always been the answer every single time
Ruth Orange:to work stuff to personal stuff.
Ruth Orange:To, to being lost, I get lost a lot
Sharon Edmundson:and it, and
Ruth Orange:it all, even with Sadaf, yes.
Ruth Orange:And it always, it just, yeah, always gets me found again.
Ruth Orange:Yeah he's the answer to everything.
Dan Orange:I love that when God spoke to Paul, he said he stood near
Dan Orange:Paul, just that knowledge that God It's with us, not in a what's that?
Dan Orange:Is it a Cliff Richard song where he talks about God looking down?
Dan Orange:Yes yeah.
Ruth Orange:I can't remember the
Dan Orange:words, but God is lit, he's miles and miles away.
Dan Orange:God is watching us.
Dan Orange:God is watching us, and he is watching us, but he, if you ask
Dan Orange:him, he will stand next to you.
Dan Orange:And that it's awesome, isn't it?
Ruth Orange:Yeah yeah, like the story of the three blokes in the fire, when
Ruth Orange:they get chucked in the fire because they don't, they weren't going to
Ruth Orange:bow down to anybody else, only God.
Ruth Orange:And it says they came out and they didn't even smell of the fire.
Ruth Orange:I don't know why that just came into my head then, but because, but then they
Ruth Orange:said that there was three people chucked in, but they saw four people in there.
Ruth Orange:Yeah.
Ruth Orange:And one of them was the Lord, wasn't it?
Ruth Orange:Wasn't it?
Ruth Orange:Because he was in there, in the fire with them, in the trouble with
Ruth Orange:them, and they came out and they didn't even smell of the smoke.
Ruth Orange:Yeah, he's not somebody that's just watching from afar.
Ruth Orange:Yeah, so
Dan Orange:I've read that in the book of Daniel.
Dan Orange:Oh,
Ruth Orange:well done.
Ruth Orange:Oh
Dan Orange:yeah, of course.
Dan Orange:Not named after me, I was named after that Daniel.
Dan Orange:And again Sharon at the end talked about Emmanuel, which means God is with us.
Dan Orange:It's Christmas at the moment, and you'll probably see that, plastered
Dan Orange:around on cards and things, and it is that, that God is with us.
Dan Orange:He didn't come, He came to earth as a child, as a baby,
Dan Orange:so He could live with us.
Dan Orange:He didn't come in as God who hadn't experienced pain and Suffering and just
Dan Orange:life became God incarnate, God as man with us to go through this with us.
Dan Orange:That's the difference between other religions and stories is
Dan Orange:this God that was before everything came to be with us, Emmanuel.
Dan Orange:Let's see if there's any Matt said, yeah, we're brothers and
Dan Orange:sisters, we're not going to Yeah,
Ruth Orange:thanks for clarifying that, Matt.
Dan Orange:Sorry, very big
Ruth Orange:silence there.
Ruth Orange:The one of the very first things Sharon said was that
Ruth Orange:he's the source of all goodness.
Ruth Orange:And that, yeah that's true.
Ruth Orange:Everything good comes from God.
Ruth Orange:Everything good.
Ruth Orange:And I can't remember what I was watching the other day, and oh, it was
Ruth Orange:these two people in this silly film but one of them was saying he doesn't
Ruth Orange:believe in God, but he believes in his family, he believes in himself, he
Ruth Orange:believes in love, and I just thought where do you think love comes from?
Ruth Orange:God is love, he invented love he is he's the epitome of love yeah, it didn't
Ruth Orange:just, Come out of nowhere and yeah, I think we forget, sometimes we think we're
Ruth Orange:bigger than him and we're better than him and because we don't challenge or, I
Ruth Orange:don't know but yeah he is love and love looks different sometimes, doesn't it?
Ruth Orange:But it's,
Sharon Edmundson:yeah,
Dan Orange:he is.
Dan Orange:I've been reading C.
Dan Orange:S.
Dan Orange:Lewis and Mere Christianity.
Dan Orange:It's an amazing book.
Dan Orange:He's, I like him because he's very logical, is how I think, and he said
Dan Orange:yeah, in the world, there are good things, there are good people that don't know
Dan Orange:Jesus, because God is good, God created this world, and he permeates through
Dan Orange:everything, yes, we have illness and sickness and sin has come in, but our
Dan Orange:God is there, and that's why he says.
Dan Orange:Come and know me in the fullest, know me to the max, John 1010
Dan Orange:says that doesn't he, I'll give you a life in all its fullness.
Dan Orange:So yeah, come and know this great creator.
Ruth Orange:Yeah, you can see bits of him everywhere in nature and in people.
Ruth Orange:Yeah, but there's just glimpses, isn't it?
Ruth Orange:Yeah.
Dan Orange:Come and know him fully.
Dan Orange:We're coming to the end of our time here.
Dan Orange:Next week we've got Matt Edmundson and it's it's Christmas Eve next
Dan Orange:week so it's a non live stream.
Dan Orange:So the talk will be on but there won't be any host doing questions.
Dan Orange:Still if you've got questions then please just put them in the comments because
Dan Orange:there's always someone that will love to answer those and get back to you.
Dan Orange:It's been As always, a fun tech week, I do.
Ruth Orange:It's me Dan, I've got this weird electrical impulse,
Ruth Orange:sorry everybody, that as soon as I come near anything techy it goes
Ruth Orange:wrong, so you can blame me for that
Dan Orange:bit.
Dan Orange:Thanks Ruth, thanks for joining us.
Dan Orange:Thanks everyone for coming on in the comments.
Dan Orange:Oh, sorry, just looking at a comment that came up.
Dan Orange:Thanks for Yeah, thanks for everyone in the comments, and have an
Dan Orange:amazing Christmas if we don't, if there is no hosting before then.
Dan Orange:And again, if you want to know anything, anything more about this
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