If you're like us, you end up with leftover turkey at the holidays. (Bruce has a poultry theory: You start with one chicken per person and build from there.) After twenty-five-year career in the cookbook business, we've got lots of ideas for leftover turkey.

We're Bruce Weinstein & Mark Scarbrough, authors of three dozen (and counting) cookbooks. We've published tens of thousands of original recipes in our career. So yep, we know a thing or two about turkey.

Thanks for joining us. Here are the segments for this episode of COOKING WITH BRUCE & MARK:

[01:09] Our-minute cooking tip: Salt burger patties after you shape them.

[03:37] What to do with leftover turkey: recipe ideas for after the holiday feast.

[17:07] What’s making us happy in food this week: Burgers topped with sweet pickle relish and chili crisp as well as air-fried cauliflower florets and sliced fresh jalapeño chilis.

Hey, I'm Bruce Weinstein, and this is the podcast

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Cooking with Bruce and Mark.

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Mark: And I'm Mark Scarborough, and

together with Bruce, my husband, we have

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written thirty six three dozen cookbooks,

not counting the ones for celebrities,

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who I probably can't mention, ahem, Dr.

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Phil, and others on the air.

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That's a whole story of why I

actually can say the words Dr.

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Phil.

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Somebody forgot to have us sign

a non disclosure agreement.

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Bruce: Those words leave

a bad taste in my mouth.

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Mark: Oh, they do anymore.

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Uh, he's really kind of smarmy,

but, uh, anyway, so, um, we've

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written 36 of our own books.

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We fixed a lot of cookbooks

in our life and ghost written

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several others for celebrities.

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We have ourselves published, oh, in

the tens of thousands of original

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copy written recipes over 25 years.

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And this is our podcast about

that passion for food and cooking.

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And we're glad you're here with us.

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We've got a one minute.

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cooking tip about hamburgers,

about making hamburgers.

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We're gonna tell you what to

do with all of those turkey

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leftovers after the holidays.

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And we'll tell you what's making

us happy in food this week.

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So let's get started.

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Bruce: Our one minute cooking

tip when you're making burgers.

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Hold off on the salt until

after you shape your patties.

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Don't season the meat first.

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Season the outside.

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And here's why.

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When you put salt into ground

meat and mix it up, you're

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changing the texture of the meat.

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It becomes more like sausage meat.

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You know, that springy

You're not changing the

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Mark: texture as you do it.

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You're changing it as it cooks.

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Just to be absolutely

proper as a writer, right?

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It's what's going to happen to it

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Bruce: When it cooks, the salt

inside the meat is going to

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make it tighter and springier.

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bringy here and it's almost

going to be like sausage meat as

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opposed to a lovely tender burger.

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So salt all you want,

but salt the outside.

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Don't salt the meat before

you shape your patty.

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Mark: Yeah, that is absolutely true.

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And I tell you, Bruce

is the burger master.

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And I also have to tell you, if

you don't know that basically,

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uh, I like my hamburgers so that a

good vet could still save the cow.

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So, um, for me, I don't ever want springy

sausage texture inside my hamburgers.

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I like

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Bruce: it.

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You like my burgers.

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Believe it or not, well done.

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I like steaks, really rare, but I

like ground beef, either raw and

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cold, like steak tartare, or once

you heat it up, go all the way.

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Mark: Yeah, well, I love steak

tartare, and we should say, now we're

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prolonging this one minute cookie dip,

I should say that, uh, just to clarify

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myself, um, we buy our meat from a

local farm here in rural New England.

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It's an organic farm.

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We know where the meat comes from.

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I believe it.

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These are the cows that produce the meat.

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But if I go elsewhere, let's say I'm in a

diner on a road trip, I don't know, we're

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in New Jersey, and we're on a road trip,

we stop at a diner for lunch, and I get a

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burger, okay, there I order it well done.

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Because I don't know where

that meat comes from and I want

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it cooked completely through.

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Do you know in, in New Jersey, Canada,

our Canadian listeners know this.

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You can't even get a burger

anyway, but well done.

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Bruce: Well done is the only way

ground beef can be served in Canada.

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It's a national law and

it saves a lot of lives.

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Mark: Yes.

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Okay.

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Before we get to the next segment

on what to do with all those turkey

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leftovers after the holidays, let

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Okay, up next, what to do with

all of those turkey leftovers.

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After the holidays.

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Bruce: This week, millions of turkeys are

going into millions of ovens across the U.

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S.

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I

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Mark: wonder what the actual stat

is on that, but okay, we'll look

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at it with millions and millions.

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I wonder what

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Bruce: the actual smell of all that is.

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Gross.

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Mark: God.

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Why do you always have

to freak out the podcast?

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Okay, go on.

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So

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Bruce: And think about all that millions

of pounds of turkey grease going

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down drains and into sewer systems.

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No, that's

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Mark: not good.

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I can't think of

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Bruce: anything.

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Oh, that's gonna be fatbergs everywhere.

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Oh, goodness.

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Mark: Um, okay.

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So, anyway.

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Please stop.

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So, what do you want to talk about, Bruce?

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I want

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Bruce: to talk about the millions

of pounds of turkey leftovers

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and what to do with them.

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You know, our careers as food magazine

writers actually started with an article

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on what to do with turkey leftovers.

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Yeah.

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Mark: It was a long time ago.

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I think 20 plus years ago.

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And we pitched Cooking Light, and we

were newbies in the food business.

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We were such newbies

that they accepted us.

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We accepted our pitch at Cooking

Light for leftover turkey,

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uh, dishes after the holidays.

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But they forced us to write

the whole thing before they

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would actually accept it.

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And that's, that's not anything that

happens once you're established.

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But when you're established, you

can pitch something and then go

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away and write it once they buy it.

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But in this case, we had to

actually write the article.

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And I have to tell you, we both,

I remember this really well.

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We were staying at a friend's house.

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in the Hamptons.

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They'd offered us their

house while they were away.

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We're out in the Hamptons and, um, we

got this, uh, this to write an article.

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Of course, you know, magazines

were working six months ahead,

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so it's probably like April or

May for the Thanksgiving issue.

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And we got this assignment,

and we, Both actually stopped

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and said, should we do it?

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Because they were asking us to write the

whole thing before they would even agree

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to the article and accept it or pay us.

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So it was a whole thing, but we did it

and it actually started an entire magazine

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career with Cooking Light, Eating Well,

Wine Spectator, and all these magazines.

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And

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Bruce: writing for food

magazines was an issue.

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I want to talk about that before we even

get to these recipes because as Mark

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said, you're writing these months in

advance, sometimes six months in advance.

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Sometimes

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Mark: a year.

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Well, a

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Bruce: year is actually easier

because you can get all the

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ingredients because it's seasonal.

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But if you're writing an article on

Thanksgiving leftovers and turkey,

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and you're writing it in June or

May, you aren't necessarily going

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to find a lot of turkeys available.

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Or if you do, they're going

to be really expensive.

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It's like writing an article in January

that's going to appear in August for

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fresh corn and fresh tomato things.

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Where are you going to get these things?

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It's a real problem.

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I

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Mark: distinctly remember writing an

article in in November or December

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for eating well, and it was an

article in which rhubarb was a central

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ingredient in many of the things.

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And do you know how hard it is

to find rhubarb in November and

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December in rural New England?

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It's almost impossible.

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Bruce ended up having to Order it

from some really expensive cooking

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food supply place because we

couldn't get rhubarb in December.

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It was just impossible.

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There was a

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Bruce: restaurant supply place that

shipped it in and it was like 26 a pound.

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That's the old days.

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Okay.

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Mark: So here's what I suggest you do.

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One of the things I'm going to suggest

you do with your turkey leftovers, and

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that is Call in, call in some cold soba

noodles from a local Chinese American

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restaurant, call in cold soba noodles

and just mix chopped up turkey into them.

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You have an instant cold soba

noodle with turkey dinner.

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Now, you can make your

own cold soba noodles.

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And

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Bruce: you're talking about, like,

with the peanut dressing, right?

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The sesame sauce and all of that.

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The sesame

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Mark: or peanut dressing, yep, exactly.

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You can make your own, and you

can find lots of dressing recipes

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on the web for peanut and sesame

dressings for cold soba noodles.

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But you can actually just order it

in and add chopped up, deboned, of

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course, turkey, and I would say skin

off turkey to those soba noodles.

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Listen, okay, you're going to go crazy.

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Add some celery or some scallions

chopped up and then you've

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got really a whole complete.

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Wow.

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Bruce: Call it in.

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Wow.

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I was going to say, let's give the whole

recipe for it, but that's really amazing.

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Okay.

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I am a fan of curried turkey salad

and I prefer to use the leftover

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breast meat as opposed to the dark

meat for chicken and turkey salads.

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And so Basically, it's so simple.

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It's mayonnaise, or fat free yogurt,

sometimes a combination, a little dollop

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of mango chutney for sweetness, some

raisins, scallions, I like to put chopped

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walnuts in it, that's always a good

thing, and a sprinkling of curry powder.

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And you mix all that into chopped up,

cooked, leftover turkey breast meat.

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It's super simple, and it's delicious.

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So good.

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Mark: If you want to actually use the dark

meat, I would suggest you try and we have

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tried a kind of deviled turkey spread.

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You know, that deviled ham

grossness from Underwood.

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Oh, God, I grew up.

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Basically, it's

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Bruce: the it's the cat food for

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Mark: people.

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Gosh, I grew up on that.

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My parents love that stuff.

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They love that.

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And they know What we

called Vienna sausages.

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Oh,

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Bruce: that's dog food for people.

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Mark: Vienna sausages, Vienna.

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And I can still hear my mother saying,

as Bruce well knows, don't scrape off the

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jelly, that's where all the flavor is.

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Okay, so anyway.

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Here's how Christian I was raised, Vienna

sausages on white bread with mayonnaise.

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So, there you go.

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I think that's as fundamentally

Christian as you can.

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But, you can make a devil turkey spread.

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I'm going to go to this.

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So, in this case, I would

say skin the dark meat.

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Don't use the skin.

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And chop up, debone, chop

up some of the dark meat.

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And then put it in a food processor.

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Yes, a food processor.

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There you go.

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with some mustard, some vinegar,

don't use, uh, just white vinegar,

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use like white wine vinegar or

even balsamic vinegar, and a few

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Bruce: teaspoons, not, not a whole lot.

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Mark: And then some capers and a

few shots of Tabasco or a hot sauce

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and a bunch of fresh herbs, whatever

kind of fresh herbs you like.

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And then here's the kicker.

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And I know you're going to scream,

but one or two tinned onions.

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Absolutely can't make

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Bruce: it without their

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Mark: necessary for this underwood flavor.

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And so you put that in the food processor

and then whiz it up and you're going

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to end up with a thick, chunky spread.

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You can put it on cucumber slices.

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You can put it on sandwiches,

you can put it in celery sticks,

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you can dip carrots into it.

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It's an underwood turkey spread.

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You can add, if you wouldn't even want

to go crazy, a little mayo to this to

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make it smoother, but you don't need it.

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Um, it's just kind of a.

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Basic recipe for a deviled turkey spread

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Bruce: Wow that actually I'm torn

between thinking I want to eat

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that and Between I want to throw it

out because I can't decide so I'm

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gonna let you make it this year.

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No, I'm gonna make it Cuz

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Mark: really honestly, even though we're

saying this my favorite way to eat turkey

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is to take a knife to the refrigerator And

stay in there with the refrigerator slice

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off pieces of turkey, so that's probably

the way I'm going to eat left over turkey,

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but uh, that's, that's one of the ways.

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Okay, so what's another thing?

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Bruce: At this point, everybody knows

that I am a fan of Chinese cuisine and

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that I love to cook Chinese food and

I'm going to tell you about a really

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interesting way to make what I'm calling

XO Turkey, something like you'd expect

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right out of that old TV show Iron Chef.

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So whether it's in a skillet or a

wok, put a little sesame oil and saute

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some minced up ginger and scallions

and garlic, add some water chestnuts,

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and then the kicker is a heaping

tablespoon of XO sauce, which is a

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jarred sauce you buy in an Asian market.

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It's a Fishy kind of fermented sauce

that's spicy and got crab stuff in it.

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And then you add the chopped up turkey.

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You can use white meat or dark meat.

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And if you want to put a little

bit of soy sauce, you can at that

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point, it may need a little water to

moisten it and serve that in lettuce.

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Mark: And don't forget, while Bruce is

talking about sautéing and stir frying

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exo turkey, which is a great idea, don't

forget that we all love turkey sandwiches.

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And while a lot of people will make

a turkey sandwich with lettuce and

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tomato on toasted bread, of course

toasted, because I want the crunchy,

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um, toasted bread, or some people go

all out and make a turkey sandwich.

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turkey club with bacon and sliced turkey.

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Don't forget that that you can

also easily make a turkey Reuben.

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Take the skin off the breast, slice

the white meat turkey into thin slices.

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Then just add purchased sauerkraut

and, uh, some kind of melty cheese.

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Jarlsberg is good.

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Munster is good.

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Good.

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Put it on toasted rye with

mustard or Russian dressing,

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either way, whichever you like.

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And you can make a turkey

Reuben in no time flat.

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Bruce: Just remember to squeeze

the sauerkraut dry because the

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juices are going to make your

bread mushy and you can do it the

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way Mark said by toasting the rye.

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It's really easy.

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I'm Mark.

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Or go a little more traditional, build

the sandwich and then grill it in a

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skillet with a little oil or butter.

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And that way you'll have, you know,

like a grilled, cheesy, rubiny thing.

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Yum, yum.

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Mark: Okay, what else you got?

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Bruce: I love to make soup out

of leftover turkey carcasses.

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And in our last episode, Mark

talked about my turkey rice soup,

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which is one of our favorites.

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But there is a Brazilian

soupy stew called vatapa.

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I love to do that with turkey instead

of the traditional shrimp, and I take

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the leftover turkey and it is some extra

turkey stock and some coconut milk and

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chopped peanuts, maybe even a little

beer is thrown in, onions, ginger, canned

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tomatoes, and you just cook that down

until it's thickened and stew like.

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Needs heat.

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Again.

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Needs

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Mark: lots of heat.

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It

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Bruce: needs some chili.

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So again, you're getting turkey,

coconut milk, a little beer.

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Peanuts, onions, garlic, tomatoes, all it

is really an amazing flavor combination.

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And

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Mark: let me also say, since we're just

throwing out ideas here, that sliced,

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especially dark meat turkey, slice it

really thin and chop it up and then get

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yourself, you can buy it already sliced,

some sliced mango at the grocery store

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and a jar of roasted red peppers, right?

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So drain those.

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You've got your sliced mango.

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You've now got your chopped up turkey,

and now you can just make quesadillas.

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They're cheese free quesadillas.

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You put that, those three things,

the chopped up dark green turkey,

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the mango slices, and the drained

roasted red peppers between tortillas.

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Put them in a skillet.

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Uh, you can even use a dry nonstick

skillet without any oil and then, you

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know, just heat it until one side of the

tortilla gets a little brown, not crunchy,

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but a little brown, and then flip it over.

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You need a big spatula for this.

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Flip it over and you basically, after

another minute or two, you have these

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really simple turkey quesadillas.

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They are

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Bruce: so delicious.

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And if you want cheese,

you can add it, right?

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You can.

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Of course.

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You can keep it cheese free, or you

could dump a whole ton of shredded

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cheese on there, which actually

makes it a little easier to flip.

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But I, to be honest, I like it

without cheese, but some people won't

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have a quesadilla without cheese.

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Right.

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I think

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Mark: the mango stands in for the cheese

because it gives you that creamy texture.

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It does.

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That's actually a

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Bruce: really good idea.

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You know,

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Mark: um, to each his own.

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Okay, so what else?

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Bruce: Well, there's another soup we

could talk about, and this is doing

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a sort of Mexican style Yucatan soup.

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And we take chicken broth, and we infuse

it with garlic and onions and a big

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splash of lime juice, put in some diced

potatoes, some drained canned corn,

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some hot peppers, and that cubed turkey.

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And you've got a

delicious, delicious soup.

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hearty lime garlic onion infused soup

with turkey and potatoes and corn.

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Mark: Well, these are lots of

different ways that we have for

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using up those turkey leftovers.

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There are so many possibilities

here that you can look for.

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I mean, we did this again 20 plus years

ago for Cooking Light and these recipes

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to me still seem to hold up a bit.

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They're kind of do it yourself.

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They're not, I mean, yes.

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Did CookingLite publish actual

recipes with ingredient lists?

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Yes.

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But from just listening to it, you

can figure that these are pretty

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much go at your own way recipes.

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It's really a good way to use up that bird

and not just necessarily throw out those

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leftovers, but keep them for what's ahead.

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No,

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Bruce: do not throw them out.

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In fact, if you're not ready to

make a dish with the leftovers,

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wrap up that carcass, wrap up that

leftovers, throw them in the freezer.

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And the next time you make any dish.

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Any kind of soup, like a

split pea or a tomato soup.

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Throw some in.

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Why not?

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Mark: Okay.

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Before we get to the last segment

of the podcast, what's make kids

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Let's move on to the last

segment of this podcast.

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What's making us happy in food this week.

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Bruce: We started with a one

minute cooking tip on burgers.

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So what's making me happy is the burger

I made for dinner this week, which is

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Just the meat salted on the outside

as we say to do but my favorite burger

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topping has become a Combination of sweet

pickle relish and Lao Gan Ma chili crisp

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and man that combination is killing me

I just slather it But the thing is, we

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like to use cloth napkins around here.

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I can't, not with that burger.

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It's a roll of paper towels because

it's an oily, greasy, delicious mess.

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Mark: And I think that what made me

heavy in food this week is something

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that happened with that burger, which

is first made a side dish of lots of

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of air fried cauliflower florets with

a sliced up jalapeño, a fresh jalapeño.

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And so we air fried cauliflower

florets, spraying them, of

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course, and air frying them.

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And in there, amongst all those

florets, was a fresh jalapeño

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chili that had been thinly sliced.

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And it was so tasty.

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I ate it.

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Ate it down more even

than I wanted my burger.

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I wanted that crunchy cauliflower

with those hot jalapenos.

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Best dinner ever.

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It was so unbelievably delicious.

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Another reason you should have an air

fryer and maybe, okay, egregiously self

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