At the age of twenty Josh Tarling has already earned a European Championship and a World bronze medal. Now he's heading to his first Olympic games with his eyes firmly fixed on an Olympic medal.

He caught up with Bobby and Jens from his training camp in Puigcerdà, Spain as he revealed how he plans to take on Remco Evenepoel, Ganna and more.

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Hello everyone, and welcome

to another episode of The Odd Tandem.

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Today we have quite the guest.

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I must admit,

I am very partial to this sort of rider.

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He's an amazing time trialist.

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We have the Olympics in Paris

right around the corner,

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so we were able to get a hold of him

up in Andorra,

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where he's putting the final touches

on his Olympic preparation.

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Jensie, who was our guest today?

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Our guest is the reigning

European TT champion, Josh Tarling,

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an absolute talent,

only 20 years old and most impressive.

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Please stay tuned.

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The size of the chainring he's

planning to use at the Olympics.

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Just alone.

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For that, it's worth

listening to us and his taste in music.

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So sit back and relax

and listen to another great episode today

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with Josh Tarling.

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All right, here we go.

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On the odd tandem today

we have Josh Tarling.

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Josh how are you doing man

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I'm all good, mate.

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I'm all good.

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You know,

doing a little bit of research on you,

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I realized

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I realize that you are quite a bit

younger than us.

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Jens and I are about to turn 35.

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You're like 20.

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53, Bobby, not 35, 53.

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We it.

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Did I say 35?

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Yeah, that's what I feel.

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That's that's

that's the vibe that I'm going for here.

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So, just to kind of put

this into perspective,

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I kind of want to break the ice

a little bit to kind of get to know you,

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because I've seen you on TV.

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So just a couple real short fire questions

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to let me know where you stack so we can,

you know, adjust our age to fit yours.

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You know, because we want to be

one of the cool kids, too.

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cool. Okay, so here we go.

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Your favorite genre of music.

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Oh, Eminem, 50 cent and,

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them ones mate, can't lie.

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Okay, good for the warm ups.

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Okay. You pass.

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okay. Favorite off season cheat food?

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good

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burger or something chocolatey.

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Oh, he got both of our favorites there.

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Jensie.

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Okay, other than cycling, the favorite.

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Your favorite sport to watch on TV?

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MotoGP

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okay, that's Jensie’s.

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One of Jensie’s good.

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Okay.

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This is this is a good one.

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What word would you describe?

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Something that is good in your vernacular?

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Sick.

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Okay, so so now I'm just calibrated now.

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So now I'm ready.

Now I'm ready to ask my real question.

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Jensie You you you adjusted down

a little bit in age like we're good to go.

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I try to follow up.

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I try to think like my teenage kids.

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Now I'm thinking,

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all right, that was just kind of,

you know, now we know where we stand.

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So, Josh, where are you coming to?

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Coming to us from right now.

Where are you at?

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I'm in, Puigcerdà.

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I don't know how to say it exactly.

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just outside Andorra,

in a training camp for, for the Olympics.

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So we talking altitude training, right?

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And as,

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far as I know, is there a bike track or.

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It's all on the road you're training

for? Now.

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It's all on the road.

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All on the road.

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It's not actually,

it's not too high altitude.

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I think it's 1100 here.

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It's not really.

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It's more there's good roads for the TT

bike here long straight drags.

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So, it's more intensity

rather than altitude.

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Okay. Nice. Nice.

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And where are you actually based

during the season

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Andorra also just down the road okay.

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Okay.

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So yeah let's let's get into it man.

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How how is the preparations

for the Olympics going?

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I mean, you're 20 years old.

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You're headed to your first Olympics.

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I went to my first Olympics when I was 32.

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You're 20.

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So you're going to be doing this for

for quite a while.

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yeah. How's it going?

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Hey, it's going good.

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I think,

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that particular long, I, I,

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like a nice big block

now, so I’ve ridden the TT bike too much.

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Everything’s sore.

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Everything's tight.

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I think we're getting faster.

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So getting there.

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So when you say you've ridden

your TT bike -

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your position is dialed in

or is there anything.

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You go,

we could make this a little quicker,

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or we can do a little twist or turn here,

or you go, nope.

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Just perfect. Don't touch it anymore.

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I think, right now it's all sorted,

so I wanted to get it all done

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before this block. And then,

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I could, like, ride that same position

because we we changed it.

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We changed it before the Dauphiné.

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and I

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didn't even get to ride the bike off

in the recon before it on that position.

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And then it was, again,

the same for the nationals.

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after that.

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So I was like, alright, this block,

we'll get it exactly how we want it.

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And then we don't change until after.

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What exactly did you change?

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it's quite a lot further forward.

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so we worked out that

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because I'm quite told this part of my arm

is, is quite long, and,

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you can see kind of

how Remco is quite he's quite short here

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and it helps him be lower And even if,

my head's really low or whatever,

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this bit is still quite tall.

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So we made it short

and I have to lean forward.

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And then this part of my arm is usually

I should be,

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more than 90 to the bar.

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And then we found that, like,

that kind of close everything.

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I also, if you lean forward, it

kind of bends your shoulders in as well.

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Well,

it does sound fast, but uncomfortable.

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How long do you think

can you sit in that position, my friend?

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Right.

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It’s not nice, is not I'm trying,

I'm trying.

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But, I think, on the it's

going to be about 35 minutes maybe.

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And so I'm hoping that long.

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Geez.

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Yeah.

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as soon as you said that, you were,

you know,

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at above 90 degrees, that puts

a lot of strain on your upper body.

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So now we know why you're sore.

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You're probably having to get more massage

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on your upper body than your lower body

after stuff like that.

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But now that you mention it, you being,

what,

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194 1.94m tall,

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which for here in the US is six foot four?

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you're trying to emulate a guy

that's much, much smaller than you.

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So, were you in the wind tunnel?

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you know, to kind of find these little,

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these little gains or, like what?

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What motivated you to kind of change that

position to emulate the world champion?

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Remco Evenepoel?

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Yeah, I think I keep losing to him.

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So I had to try and do something.

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so before the Dauphine.

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Yeah, we we I've been in the tunnel.

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3 or 4 times now,

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and, there's obviously like

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kit, kit wise, working out

because I guess with the Olympics,

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you don't have to ride team, stuff.

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And GB themselves

have a range of different suits.

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We could have worn.

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So it was a lot of,

you know, testing all of them.

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And then, yeah.

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So one was on that

and there was positional stuff because

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I guess it is free isn't, you know,

if you gain,

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I don't know, 2%, 3% in the tunnel

in a day to get that in training.

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This, is a long, long kind of process. So

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I think

I think we've got a really good place now.

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Yeah.

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So, I guess we we all three.

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We agreed that no matter how aero you go,

you will need

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to push more watts than Remco,

because he's just lower and smaller.

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Yeah.

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You have an idea or what?

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You be able to share that information.

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You think you need to push 100 watts

more than Remco or 50W,

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25W or 200W or.

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I don't know.

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I don't know roughly

what he's going to want to do.

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because he is punchy.

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I don't have my pace and there yet,

but I like to kind of

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460-470 is what I would like.

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He's quite a bit lighter than me,

so I'm hoping

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I'm hoping it's enough

what I can get over.

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But, yeah, I reckon I'll probably need

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100 because he's more

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aero on his skinnier than me. I

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so this is a question.

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So if that's say your FTP, your threshold,

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whatever you want to call it these days

because it's basically all the same.

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But if that's kind of like what you set

your training zones around,

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you know, I, I used to work with

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team Sky back in the day and we would have

we would have

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we would test these guys on the climbs

and we would test them on the time

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trial bike and I only saw

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two riders,

pretty much my whole coaching career

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that were able to basically have

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the same wattage on the road bike

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going uphill compared to the time trial

bike on the flats.

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So are you in that range is if

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if 470 is your,

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you know, FTP, let's say on your time

trial bike,

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is it

the same on your road bike or even higher?

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I think I'm pretty pretty similar.

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And we did quite a bit of them.

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I ride it a lot in Andorra

on the climbs and stuff,

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because then the position is,

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is a lot harder and a lot, you know?

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Yeah. Like,

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I don't know, chasing it more.

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So I think I'm pretty.

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I should be equal.

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Okay.

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You're in very good company there then.

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Because the only two guys I saw do

that was Bradley Wiggins and Chris Froome.

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So you have to work on you.

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Good work mate. Hahaha.

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So now that it looks like

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you got the training,

and all that worked out, on your bike,

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what do you have roughly need

of how much your entire setup

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is when you be rolling off the start

ramp at the Olympics?

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Are we looking at 10,000 pound 20,000

30,000 like a medium sized car?

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It’s it’s fancy, man it’s fancy.

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that's why I ask our listeners for sure.

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They also. are curious now. Yeah, yeah.

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I don't, I don't know, maybe there's some.

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Everything's been ceramic ified.

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the wheels, they've got to be.

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Three, maybe four.

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We go for around 20.

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But then there's things that are quite

difficult, like the skin suit is really,

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really cool.

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like, I don't know how.

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I don't know

if it's available or whatever, so I'll say

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£20,000-£25000 Jensie.

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That's exactly what I said before.

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I said it's probably around 25,000.

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Wow, wow.

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And do you have the 3D

printed handlebars as well

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I do now.

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Yeah yeah yeah. Nice.

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Yeah I'm cool.

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Jens shared this picture

with, with with myself

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and our producer Mark today

on our little text thread.

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And it was he and I doing a two up

team time trial in Buhl,

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Germany after the tour de France in 2004,

before I left for the Olympics.

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And that's what prompted me

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to ask that question

of how much your bike setup is worth,

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because that picture Jensie,

I'm looking at it like maybe ten grand,

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like our skin suits probably cost $150.

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And these guys have skin suits,

especially with UK sport.

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You're talking 6 to 8000 and that's

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where I believe I lost the Olympics was

my skin suit was not optimal.

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I it was the team USA skin suit.

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The guy that wound up beating me

had like this special Nike one.

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And I wound up losing to him

by eight seconds.

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And it's one of those things.

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So man, pay attention to all that stuff.

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But what is your favorite?

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I mean, this is geeking out

because I'm a time trial guy as well.

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What is your favorite part of that

$25,000 euro pound setup?

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Maybe wait till you see the bike.

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It looks so good. Is it?

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they've got the Olympic paintjob

coming out,

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so it looks class

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nice.

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And to be fair, you know, when you put

a good skin suit on and it feels fast.

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I've never haven't ridden outside

that skin, so.

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Yeah, just in a tunnel.

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But you know, and it's just like,

I don't know, you feel sick in it

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and it gives you like, you know, an extra

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2% motivation, confidence

because, you know, okay, this is the best

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possible equipment you can have

on this planet for now, right?

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Yeah, exactly.

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That's pretty cool.

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So, no, it's all in quality, right?

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Yeah.

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I mean, you're still a young kid

further down the road.

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Do you fancy some of the classics? Maybe.

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Or you go now.

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I just want to become

ten times, teach world champion.

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Nah, I, I really enjoy racing like that.

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drives me nuts.

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Like watching stuff and, like,

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trying to work stuff out.

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And when I'm racing, I love doing

all the - which side of the wheel and,

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you know, timings and counter-attacking.

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So obviously I'm going to try and win

every TT

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I start but, for sure next year

we go for the classics as well.

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And the winner.

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And you know,

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you're not the only

I mean, you're 1.94m tall.

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We've had Miguel Indurain.

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That was,

a little bit shorter than you at 1.9,

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Bradley Wiggins was 1.88m tall.

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what do you think you need to work on?

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I mean, obviously you got your time

trial dialed, but what what

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other kind of training objectives

or do you need to focus on?

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I guess, like what are your limiters

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right now that you want to work on

over the next year or so to be ready

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for the classics?

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I think,

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we worked on a bit this year

with the punch before the classics.

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I think the teaches that you can turn

quite easily,

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which is and also for my job

with like in the Dauphiné

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or Paris-Nice and, you know, positioning

or even climbing these is okay.

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But for the classics,

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once you once you've made that,

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that groove, then it's fine.

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It's just the

you have to have the punch to get in it.

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so it'll be.

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Yeah, kicking and then I need to work

on the weight as well.

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That’ll obviously help

I think being tall is harder, isn't it?

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You know, like,

I mean, you have to be skinnier than than

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some of the smaller guys

just because you're heavier.

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Have you ever.

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I mean, you're a tall, tall man.

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have you have experience with these very,

very short cranks?

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This seem to be a thing in a moment.

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Like Pogacar has 165’s.

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obviously that looking very,

very short for men of your size.

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The experienced, or tested some of that.

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we haven't.

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I'm not using any in the Olympics.

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But it is something I've used on the track

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a lot, obviously it’s quite short there.

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And, I think

especially with this really far forward

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position, that could be

it could be something in it,

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I think, I mean, it's it's different,

you know, because I'm quite tall.

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Anyways, I don't need to

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too short, but for sure

that there might be something in it,

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especially on the track with, you know,

if you've closed your hip angle off.

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Anyway, then you've got your knees

hitting your chest and whatever.

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so there might be something in there.

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Yeah.

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So we were honored enough to have

Chris Boardman on recently and asked

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asked him about time trial pacing

and to paraphrase what he said, he said,

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if you're riding if you're asking yourself

if you can go harder

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and the answer is yes, it's too late.

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If you ask yourself to go harder

and it's no, you're really in trouble.

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The what you want is, can I go any harder?

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And it has to be maybe.

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So you're always in that zone

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of basically going maximum, right.

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what what is your mentality

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around a time trial

and especially the pacing part of it.

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So we have

we with the team, you do a pacing plan

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and that'll be split into,

you know, the the section

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and of the course.

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so I'll understand that.

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And then you go about it where it's like,

okay,

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if this section is 440 watts

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but the predicted speed for that section

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is, is higher.

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It's like 54.

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and I'm doing 53.

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Oh, I'm doing 50 and 440 and you,

I feel okay.

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Then you whack it.

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and then equally the other way around,

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if I'm going faster than the predicted,

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there's no way I go, I, I

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deliberately try and go less than the

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than the predicted,

but I will I'll stick roughly

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to that speed or just the watts

And if I sit higher, I sit higher.

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I quite like all the,

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at the breakdown of the course.

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I like all the

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like in the recon

you can work out different

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road surfaces and then you can relay

that back to the pacing plan.

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So obviously the pacing plans done,

either before or

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or a long way before.

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So then this set aside,

this section is 440.

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Again, if the road surface is a lot

rougher than then,

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I thought it was going to be all.

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Then the speed is predicted

and we know, okay,

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I need to overpace this bit

because it's a lot harder than we thought.

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And, I like breaking it down and sort of,

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you know, relating,

relaying the course to the pacing,

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in terms of like

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getting it

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out, I think I always have quite a,

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my, my coaches that is Ganna’s coach.

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So he, Mr.

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Bigham not that Dario Cioni.

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Yeah.

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so he oh,

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I’m convinced he gives me Ganna’s powers

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because they're always like,

it's too high.

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So I always like,

I can trust that the pacing plan

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is basically as hard as I can go.

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and yeah, just that really.

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So how much influence do you have

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as the pilot of the bicycle into that,

that pacing plan?

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I think there has to be some room

for you to make the decisions right?

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Yeah, yeah, I think

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like the model

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it's good.

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But then

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a lot of it comes from the recon,

you know, where,

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hey, maybe it's predicted

there's a headwind, but

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then there might be a crosswind, but

then there might be loads of trees and,

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and then it's up to me to kind of go,

look, I'm holding I'm holding that speed

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that is predicted that.

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So I don't need to push

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as hard in this section

and I can save it for the climb later.

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I know, or like I said,

with the road surface and not and

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I mean, apart from that,

if I go from the pacing plan

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I want to go above,

I have to kind of wait a little bit.

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I can just like, fit instantly above,

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you know, for the first say,

half of the race.

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Is it?

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The pacing plans are basically supposed

to be as hard as you can go,

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so it is risky,

but then it's on feel as well.

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because

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again, you get you get sections

of, of the plan

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and it'll be like a wattage

for that section, but then the road

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might be slightly going up

and down, up and down, and you might,

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you can take that

as almost like an average for that section

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and not something to set up to kind of go,

okay, first

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bike 450 and then we go 420

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and kind of go

that averages out, you know,

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435 440.

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do you ever afraid of overthinking

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and like losing energy by,

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calculating all the watts you overspeed up

here, relax on a down.

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And, second part of the question,

how important is feedback from the car

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behind you to

to guide you through that race?

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Not. Yeah.

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I think I'm not bright enough

to overthink.

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I think, like,

I kind of do it on feel really.

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So it's like,

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Yeah.

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I don't have to think about, you know,

I need to do this, watts and whatever.

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I can kind of.

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I think it

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helps with you kind of

get the feel of the speed and the powers

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quite well from the track, because

obviously, you’re not allowed a Garmin,

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so you get just like, time splits

and then you get the feel

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of what that cadence is like.

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And, and you can kind of feel it

on, on the road as well.

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so a lot of it comes from like your arse

and how fast it's feeling.

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And, yeah, yeah

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Jensie

I, I'm just blown away at 20 years old.

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Would you have been thinking

about anything like this or just a no?

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Put on your time trial suit,

get on your time trial bike that

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you just put together the day before

and just let it rip.

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You know?

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and that kind of brings me,

I mean, being so young and,

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you know, kids coming into the sport

now seem to be getting

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younger and younger and winning

right away.

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I mean, you did the same thing.

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You know, you did the you

you were able to do the under 23

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World Championships last year

and instead you decided to do the elite

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and you got a medal.

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what about

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with these other young kids

that don't have the resources, don't

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have maybe the

the progression of talent at your age,

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what advice would you give to young riders

that want to be in your shoes?

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Remco’s shoes, Tadej’s shoes.

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You know, you know when they're when

they're like younger than you like 17, 18.

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I just think like you don't have to have

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like nice like really nice stuff.

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You know, you don't have to have

I didn't have

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the attitude or

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I like took years

until I was close with Ineos.

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it's more like you have to learn racing

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and then you don't have to have that

good legs if you know how to race.

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and you have to do that by

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a) racing.

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but b) like, you have to watch things

you have to listen to,

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like these podcasts and after,

you know, like,

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just watch all the racing

and then you can get a good idea,

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you know, like today with all the on the,

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the Tour and all the positioning and stuff

like that.

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You can watch all of that.

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And it's it's like crystal clear

what everyone's trying to do.

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Everyone's trying to pick a side and,

and there's ways that you do that

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and how you always leave room for a guy

and and

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and then you can also tell how the wind's

going.

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depending on, you know,

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the punch and,

and how that's shaped and stuff like that.

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So you have to

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do that.

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And I think

you don't have to worry about winning,

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because if you think the teams have race

winners,

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you're not you're not going to be paid

straight away to win races.

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You want to.

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But like if you know how to race

and you know how to position people,

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the team's going to be mega

impressed anyway.

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because like, yeah, like

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I say, you're not going to go in

and you're not going to be tall, right?

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You win

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straightaway because they've got people

like, we've got Kwiato, Carlos, Tom.

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All these guys like,

I don't have to win a race

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that they have all like, really good.

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so yeah, I just wouldn't stress

and just make sure you keep

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you have to learn

how to, like, ride a bike race

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and then get strong with the team

rather than worrying about,

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you know, training and hurting yourself

and then not knowing how race basically.

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So since you mentioned half of your team

there,

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they are currently in the tour de France

and we have another TT coming up.

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What's your point of view on that?

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Because it's uphill. It's downhill.

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Does it suit the specialist better

or maybe an GC contender?

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what's your pick on that?

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I don't know if I have been that climb

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before, maybe in Paris-Nice but,

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I if it's up for sure

today is going to be strong.

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be strong everywhere.

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I guess obviously lives there as well.

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So you have him as I think.

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I think Remco is the favorite.

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he's climbing class.

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I do think maybe with the descent

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he might struggle, but, mate he's

going to have reconed it so many times.

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I think Tadej obviously

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lives there,

so he'll have a big, advantage,

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but I don't I don't think

it's going to be, you know, like the

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the out and out specialist, like,

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Küng or Bissegger.

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Sorry if it is, Kong missing.

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Okay.

522

You know, so you haven't seen the course

because I don't think I'm in Pyrenees.

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They go up that side,

they go up the other side.

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But, you've probably gone down it.

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But if you were to guess, knowing

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that that climb is about eight

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kilometers at six, six, 6.5%

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and then the rest of it

is basically downhill,

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would you consider changing bikes

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or would you do the whole thing on a time

trial bike?

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I think I would stay in,

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the descent is, well, it's not

straight, is it?

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But is it?

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There is a straight section

across the top.

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There's downhill. So,

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I would, I would say run a classified

maybe.

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and then you can do,

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you can have like a little ring inside,

but you can also keep like a,

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I mean, we use like 68 is that's

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what the,

what they're for for the descents.

541

yeah.

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So I would,

I would go classified TT bike all the way.

543

yeah.

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But keep a big chainring if we can. 68

I think I've only seen them.

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I never touched one of them.

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Why not just one of them?

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I have impressed,

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they feel so good. One.

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They just, like, waft around.

550

So, you're quite,

coming from a cycling family.

551

Is that correct? Yeah. Yeah.

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do you have a brother?

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Correct.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So what would you say?

Is he as good as you?

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Is he better than you,

or is he follow in your footsteps?

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you keep an eye on him.

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No chances. Better than me, mate.

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No chance.

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that's a good answer. Can you answer that?

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Yeah. He's he's really good.

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I, yeah, we we follow him, and,

563

he's going in the 23, with Israel

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and, Yeah, hopefully we get to.

565

I've never really raced him.

566

I think we've done a few through,

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you know, like Wednesday night

crits back in Wales.

568

But,

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yeah, I haven't,

I haven't really raced him properly.

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Put him in a barrier. Maybe.

571

So, so just listening,

listening to how you speak and,

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you know, you've obviously been

around the sport of cycling for a while.

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You've really looked into it,

broken it down.

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You understand the different phases.

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you know, there's a quite a few other

good Welsh cyclists.

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but I believe you came through

the Welsh system with Darren Tudor.

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But how were you exposed to

cycling in in the first place?

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my dad used to race,

579

just locally in, place called Shrewsbury,

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and there was, little, little site like,

purpose built cycling track on there.

581

And, that was like

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every, every Wednesday

and I think every Sunday as well. So.

583

And you went to the track

a lot as well in Newport.

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so I was kind of like around it

all the time.

585

I think I learned how to ride a bike

in Newport track Center.

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and then our memories are like

right around the car park.

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And then when all the races were done,

I was like to do, like, a lap

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with my dad and stuff around on a track

when everyone's gone home and stuff.

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So it's kind of hard

not not to really, you know.

590

you know,

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you have, three more years

with the team Ineos-Grenadiers, right?

592

So that's a lot of fun to develop

into all different directions.

593

What would be a result

you want to achieve until then?

594

Or what type of rider you want to be by?

595

Let's see, the end of 2027.

596

In three years from now?

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I don't know really.

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I want to is

I want to win classics first for sure.

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so and I want to win a monument.

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by 2027.

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I mean sick man

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- but Roubaix didn't go very well.

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but Flanders was good, and, Yeah.

604

So for sure, I want to win a monument,

and I want to just win some bike races.

605

You know, it's what I like. And

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it's cool when you win a road race

and you get your hands in the air.

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And so it was like a cool story when a TT,

it doesn't matter how much you win it

608

by it’s ugly, you know, like skin suits

609

tiny and the helmets funny and

610

there's more class in a road race, aye.

611

So then that's that's that's easy,

612

you know, with the power you have,

if you leave him behind.

613

Let's see at 10km to go, they would need

three entire teams to chase you.

614

So the only challenge for you

615

is to have that first initially 10s gap

and then you’re as good as gold.

616

So hopefully hopefully hopefully

617

well you know you have quite

a bright future ahead of you.

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It was an honor to meet you

or to semi meet

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you virtually meet you and of your story.

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we're rooting for you.

621

I know that,

the Olympics is a is a very special thing.

622

it was, at least for me.

623

And we wish you all the best in that

and then the future and can't wait

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to hopefully have you back in the future

once you have a little bit more time and,

625

won some of those classics,

those monuments that you're talking about.

626

So thank you very much, Josh,

for coming on the odd tandem today.

627

Yeah. No,

thank you. I really enjoyed it. Thank you.

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