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Creating Space for DEI in the Workplace with Rev D
Episode 12nd June 2023 • Communicate Like You Give A Damn • Kim Clark
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To kick off the Communicate Like You Give A Damn podcast, Kim Clark is joined by dynamic organizer, facilitator, speaker (and professional mentor to Kim), Deborah L. Johnson, affectionately known as “Rev D”. Together, they not only discuss what DEI means as a whole, but also connect the dots between how history has played a role in the current state of DEI and how to integrate these efforts into the modern workplace. Their discussion also hits on burning touch points such as how to do DEI work successfully while using the workplace as an arena for change. Rev D also walks us through the framework of her “deepest intent” and how to identify the true motivation for diversity, equity and inclusion. Communicators will leave this conversation begging the question: where do we go from here to answer our DEI “why”.


Rev Deborah L Johnson (Rev D) is a dynamic organizer, strategist, facilitator, public speaker, and spoken word artist, known for her ability to bring clarity to complex and emotionally charged issues. As an organizational consultant specializing in cultural diversity, she serves the public, private, non-profit, and military sectors. Her clients have included, MCA Universal, ATT, Apple Inc, Hewlett Packard, Kaiser Permanente, US Coast Guard Academy, Ford Foundation, SBC Communications, UCSF, Prudential, and Kodak. She is a successful co-litigant in two landmark California civil rights cases, including one setting precedent for the inclusion of sexual orientation in California’s Civil Rights Bill. For her social justice work, she has received numerous lifetime achievement awards.

Rev Deborah is the founder of Inner Light Ministries, a founding member of Agape International Spiritual Community with Michael Bernard Beckwith, and in the prelaunch phase of her new nonprofit, Unleashing Our Future. She serves on the Leadership Council of the Association of Global New Thought and the board of directors of Pachamama Alliance. For 13 years she was a faculty member in UCLA’s Anderson School of Management Executive Leadership LGBT Diversity Institute. Presently she is an instructor at Agape International, Holmes Institute, and the Soul of Money Institute with Lynne Twist.

Author of The Sacred Yes and Your Deepest Intent, Rev Deborah holds a BA from USC in Economics, an MBA from UCLA in Urban Land Economics/Real Estate Finance, a ministerial degree from the Holmes Institute, and an Honorary Doctor of Divinity from Agape University of Leadership and Transpersonal Studies. Her passion is building “The Beloved Community” and healing socio-political/cultural divides. Wherever she goes, including on the 3 shows of her RevDnow podcast channel, Rev Deborah’s message is one of transformation, inclusion, empowerment, and possibility.

A founding member of the Agape International Spiritual Center, Rev Deborah serves with Rev Michael Bernard Beckwith on the Leadership Council of the Association for Global New Thought.


About Kim:

Kim Clark (she/her) focuses her work on the communicator and content creator's role in diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). She is the co-author of The Conscious Communicator: The fine art of not saying stupid sh*t, an Amazon #1 bestseller and the leading voice for DEI communications and social justice messaging for brands.

She speaks at conferences, writes custom workshops, writes inclusive communications guides, and consults with companies on all things related to diversity, equity, and inclusion communications. Kim is a member of the LGBTQ+ community, a cisgender woman, Native American (Muscogee Nation) and a mom of two kids with disabilities. These marginalized identities and the privileges that come with society seeing her as White motivate her daily for social change.

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