For this week's conversation I'm joined by friends of the show and fellow podcasters, Daniel Lucas and Richie Daigle. They generously gave of their time to dive into this big Rick Rubin book, The Creative Act--and then to join me for a wide-ranging and unscripted conversation about it.

The idea for this series is to consider a book that has met several hallmarks of cultural success. Whether or not we like or love the book, we consider the features of the book and what has led to its critical and bestselling success. Spoiler alert: Usually we do like and love the books we cover. But the point is, we're not just fanboys. We're considering what the book tries to achieve and whether or not it lands.

For the record, we have no affiliation with the authors and there are no affiliate links. We are here to consider these books and see how they lead us into richer territory and meaningful conversation.

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