Join Alison DuBois and astrologer Tom McMullan as they explore the transformative energies expected in 2025, highlighting the themes of unexpected change and compassion. Tom discusses the significant astrological shifts, including Neptune's move into Aries and Uranus entering Gemini, which could herald a time of upheaval and ideological battles reminiscent of historical conflicts. They delve into how these celestial movements may influence global politics, social dynamics, and personal relationships, urging listeners to embrace new beginnings with an open heart. The conversation also touches on the importance of self-discipline and accountability in navigating these changes, as well as the potential for collective empathy in response to crises. As they wrap up, Alison emphasizes the importance of cherishing loved ones and living fully in the present, reminding us to enjoy our time here amidst the chaos.
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Alison Dubois:Here's world renowned medium Alison Dubois.
Alison Dubois: econd half of predictions for: Alison Dubois: to go over what to expect in: Alison Dubois:You know, the change I've seen people make in their life in regards to that is I always say if you're remotely attracted to them, go out a second time with the guy that you're not attracted to initially, give him a shot.
Alison Dubois:I've seen more people get married that way.
Tom McMullen:That's interesting.
Alison Dubois:I've never heard that because they get in these patterns of familiarity.
Alison Dubois:So that's chemistry as well, I would imagine who you're attracted to, you know, the familiarity of that kind of person or that look that way they carry themselves that energy.
Alison Dubois:And so if they go and they give somebody the time of day that doesn't carry that energy, I found that people actually end up being quite happy because they got off that, that hamster trail that they'd been on that just was going nowhere.
Tom McMullen:Well, if you keep doing it, you think you are happy because you don't know anything different.
Tom McMullen:For me, I have a savior profile, you know, wanting to save people in relationships that ended in my late 40s, early 50s.
Tom McMullen:And so I took a step out of something going, I'm not going to be with somebody.
Tom McMullen:I feel I have to fix who's broken.
Tom McMullen:So.
Tom McMullen:And that changed my life, completely changed my life.
Alison Dubois:I think a lot of women like to fix men though.
Tom McMullen:Well, it's a female energy.
Tom McMullen:It's the caretaker, you see.
Tom McMullen:Yeah, but yeah, it's exciting when we go into this Aquarian energy because it is so much progress, so many unexpected events which again terrifies everybody.
Tom McMullen:But it's essential.
Tom McMullen:And if you look what happened in history with the birth of this country, it's exciting when you think the liberation of groups we're talking about again, humanity in ways.
Tom McMullen:I'm going to talk about Uranus going into Gemini because that's part of this coming year also.
Tom McMullen:But I'm going to go right down to Neptune next because Neptune is moving into Aries now this coming year and that will be in April of 25.
Tom McMullen:Now these other planets I'm going to refer to are going to go direct and retrograde in this year and part of the following year in 26.
Tom McMullen:So this next two years kind of tie together.
Tom McMullen:So it's a transition again because we're going to have an ending year and then a number one year of new beginnings.
Tom McMullen:So they Kind of go side, side to side in terms of you end something and you start something new that you don't know what it's going to be.
Tom McMullen:But Neptune in aries is a 14 year period.
Tom McMullen:And so we had a 14 year period of Neptune in Capricorn, or excuse me, Neptune in Pisces.
Tom McMullen:And now it's moving out of that water into a fire sign.
Alison Dubois:How long was neptune in Pisces?
Tom McMullen:14 years.
Alison Dubois:Wow.
Tom McMullen:Yeah.
Tom McMullen:Okay, so when we get a water fire connection, it's a yin and a yang.
Tom McMullen: time it was in that sign was: Tom McMullen:It went in the very next day of the beginning of the Civil war.
Tom McMullen:So.
Tom McMullen:Yeah, so now we go back to Neptune and it's in.
Tom McMullen:It's what it means.
Tom McMullen:And one of its essential meanings is Allison knows because how she feels about Pisces, it has no boards and boundaries.
Alison Dubois:That's true.
Tom McMullen:Noise the crap out of you because you're Aquarius.
Tom McMullen:So.
Tom McMullen:So the boards and boundaries are a problem for Pisces themselves.
Tom McMullen:And it is.
Tom McMullen:The nature of Neptune is to you sort of go back into the sea.
Tom McMullen:You see, it's not, it's not defined by a structure.
Tom McMullen:It's water itself.
Tom McMullen:Like, I have a bottle of water right next to me.
Alison Dubois:Yeah.
Tom McMullen:So the water is Pisces, but the bot itself is Virgo, the form that it takes on.
Tom McMullen:But it can mutate very easily.
Tom McMullen:So in the civil war, it was a boundary issue and we are in a civil war now.
Tom McMullen:If you have looked at our politics, we have two very strong divided parties.
Tom McMullen:And so that's being challenged now in terms of, you know, how that plays out.
Tom McMullen:Because it's a very polarizing energy.
Tom McMullen:Fire and water is polarizing.
Alison Dubois:That's around the world, right?
Alison Dubois:It is around the world country.
Tom McMullen:That's why it isn't just our country.
Tom McMullen:It's everywhere.
Alison Dubois:Right.
Tom McMullen:So we're seeing collapses of regimes in, in governments all over the world.
Alison Dubois:Syria, South Korea.
Tom McMullen:Right.
Alison Dubois:Just nuts.
Tom McMullen:So again, like I said before, it means confinement, but it also means hidden enemies.
Tom McMullen:So there's hidden enemies lurking out there that are wanting to, you know, take over, if you will.
Alison Dubois:And that Greedy little men.
Tom McMullen:Yeah, well, it rules delusion and illusion.
Tom McMullen:It can be mercury, murky.
Tom McMullen:It's like, like mud.
Tom McMullen:Or it can be as clear.
Tom McMullen:That's crystal clear.
Tom McMullen:And that is the intuitive side of Neptune.
Tom McMullen:Neptune is a, is a energy of, of intuition and spirituality.
Tom McMullen:So it's not about analysis.
Tom McMullen:It's about feeling and seeing.
Tom McMullen:It's a visionary that Is that, that's why we go into a nine year.
Tom McMullen:It's inspire the vision.
Tom McMullen:So you, this is where you start coming up with ideas that are more about what your vision might be, how it feels, what it looks like.
Tom McMullen:That's where you begin looking at how you're formulating with Neptune in Aries.
Tom McMullen:That's the first place to start, get out of your head.
Alison Dubois:Yeah.
Tom McMullen:You see, and it's also mis and disinformation and conspiracy theories.
Tom McMullen:So this is.
Tom McMullen:You got to get out of social media, people, because it's an addiction.
Tom McMullen:It's an absolute addiction.
Tom McMullen:And that is a Neptune Pisces energy is addiction.
Alison Dubois:Did you see Australia just banned social media for anyone under 16?
Alison Dubois:I think it was actually a good thing.
Tom McMullen:It's the best thing they could do.
Tom McMullen:Yeah, we've lost ourselves in it.
Tom McMullen:And, and that has a lot to do with our, our sort of state of mind.
Tom McMullen:Because I always say to my Pisces and even Virgos, their nature is to lose themselves completely into something.
Tom McMullen:Like water gets absorbed into it.
Tom McMullen:And whether if it's a Virgo side, they lose himself in their work.
Tom McMullen:And then Pisces loses himself in fantasy or drugs or alcohol.
Tom McMullen:So, you know, it can do that.
Tom McMullen:But I want you to understand the social media or when the, you know, the, the phones that we have, we spend all our time, we lose ourselves into them and we disengage, which is dangerous for the Aquarian energy that we're going through.
Tom McMullen:It only makes it, it exacerbates it.
Tom McMullen:If we're gonna lose ourself and disengage.
Alison Dubois:That'S why people are losing their humanity.
Alison Dubois:They're completely desensitized to people in pain.
Tom McMullen:But it does, it is a collective discourse.
Tom McMullen:So you want to build now, you want to belong to a tribe and cling to your tribe and now hate the enemy.
Tom McMullen:That's gotta go away.
Tom McMullen:That's another thing that has to disappear.
Tom McMullen:But I will tell you for those.
Alison Dubois:I think that is Cancel culture's really going away.
Tom McMullen:Cancel culture came from Neptune and Capricorn completely.
Tom McMullen:And so art and spirituality and awakening into that energy is very important.
Tom McMullen:As you can take sort of that side if that's a part of you.
Tom McMullen:And it's something that, I mean, if you're a real left brain engineer type, this isn't gonna work for you.
Tom McMullen:But at the same time, if you have a sense of doing something artistic that you never did and you're afraid to try, everybody that does something can be successful at it if they discipline themselves, build Their.
Tom McMullen:Their knowledge and stick to it.
Alison Dubois:And so I think people have trouble, especially and not to bag on younger people.
Alison Dubois:I don't mean it in that way.
Alison Dubois:It's just doing the work.
Tom McMullen:But that's the point.
Alison Dubois:Want to get there fast.
Alison Dubois:Yeah, they want it now.
Alison Dubois:And that's not how life is.
Tom McMullen:No.
Tom McMullen:I mean, I started studying astrology when I was 30 years old, and now I'm 69.
Tom McMullen:So at this point, I'm not doing the readings I did 20 years ago.
Tom McMullen:Well, maybe, but not in the first 10 years.
Tom McMullen:I evolved through this and I never did anything else.
Tom McMullen:I didn't do tarot.
Tom McMullen:I didn't do numerology.
Tom McMullen:I mean, I've looked at them and they're all sure.
Alison Dubois:You pick up things here and there in other parts of the theory, but.
Tom McMullen:I immersed myself into this language and found my version of it, how I do it, which is soul evolutionary astrology.
Tom McMullen:So that's how I want to use this.
Tom McMullen:This language and this tool in my work.
Tom McMullen:So, you know, that's what you have to sort of focus and define yourselves in, what works in the way you work.
Tom McMullen:And.
Tom McMullen:And then you have to trust it.
Tom McMullen:That's the point.
Tom McMullen:You know, you are alone in it.
Tom McMullen:You've got to figure this out.
Tom McMullen:Yeah, but, you know, if we're looking at, you know, this Aries energy, Aries is.
Tom McMullen:Wants to achieve.
Tom McMullen:It's like, get out of my way.
Tom McMullen:Just do it.
Tom McMullen:That's what it means.
Tom McMullen:And it is a me, me, me, energy.
Tom McMullen:Aries is me, me, me.
Alison Dubois:I mean, their motto's I am.
Alison Dubois:It's literally all about them.
Tom McMullen:Yes.
Tom McMullen:And, you know, and I always.
Tom McMullen:I probably said this before in a podcast, but I use the Nike company as an example of Aries because their slogan is just do it.
Tom McMullen:And their symbol is not a swoosh, it's a check mark, which means next it's off my list.
Tom McMullen:They have horrible memories because of this.
Tom McMullen:They'll get in a fight with you, and an hour later they'll forget everything they just said about what you're talking about.
Alison Dubois:That's what I like about Aries the most.
Alison Dubois:They don't hold grudges by nature unless they have something else in their chart that makes them a grudge holder.
Alison Dubois:So I love that about Aries.
Tom McMullen:No, the fire signs tend not to the.
Tom McMullen:The water signs.
Alison Dubois:Leo does.
Tom McMullen:Leo does.
Tom McMullen:Yeah, Leo does.
Tom McMullen:Because it takes it personally.
Tom McMullen:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tom McMullen:But.
Tom McMullen:But, you know, essentially, if you're a water sign, you just hold onto it forever.
Tom McMullen:Especially Scorpios.
Tom McMullen:But yeah, you got to let it go.
Tom McMullen:Yes, that's the whole point of Scorpio, is to let it go.
Tom McMullen:That's what death means.
Tom McMullen:So that's true.
Tom McMullen:So it is.
Tom McMullen:You know, and if we look at a period of the Civil War, it is trying to.
Tom McMullen:We did come together, we didn't break the country apart.
Tom McMullen:So, you know, it wants to now, but we can't do that just like we couldn't do it then.
Tom McMullen:We've got to find a compromise or a common ground of how we work together through these, these boundary issues in our, our own politics and in the world politics.
Tom McMullen:So there has to be once again a humanity that traces this thing along.
Tom McMullen:So now Uranus in Gemini is an eight year period and it starts in July of 25.
Tom McMullen:So you see a lot of these things will not trigger until we get into the summer, excuse me, late spring, early summer.
Tom McMullen:And so this is going to blow your mind when I tell you about its history.
Tom McMullen: es that Uranus was in Gemini,: Tom McMullen: to: Alison Dubois:Yeah.
Tom McMullen: In: Alison Dubois:Yeah.
Tom McMullen:So this is war energy.
Tom McMullen:And I've talked about us being in war energy before.
Alison Dubois:We're already into, We've been in it.
Tom McMullen:And so this does continue, you know, so we're, we're still, we're.
Tom McMullen:What are we fighting for?
Alison Dubois:The hostages?
Tom McMullen:Yeah, yeah.
Tom McMullen:See once again, the humanity, the humanity.
Tom McMullen:We're fighting humanity.
Tom McMullen:Religious freedoms.
Alison Dubois:Well, in the Ukrainian people.
Alison Dubois:To say yes, to save them as well.
Tom McMullen:And well, Russia invaded their borders.
Tom McMullen:There's a border issue.
Alison Dubois:There's a lot of debate on what exactly precipitated it, but let's just say we shouldn't be in it.
Alison Dubois:It's a lot.
Alison Dubois:It's a lot.
Tom McMullen:And again, you know, that's.
Tom McMullen:We get into these things because America is the sav.
Tom McMullen:The planet.
Alison Dubois:We don't want to police.
Alison Dubois:They've been saying that for at least 30 years.
Alison Dubois:They're saying that in college, in 91, that we, you know, people don't want to, we don't want to be the policeman of the world.
Tom McMullen: when Uranus was in Gemini in: Alison Dubois:Okay.
Alison Dubois:We weren't here.
Alison Dubois:So I know we wanted to change.
Tom McMullen:The country at the time.
Alison Dubois:We just want to look at generation at the time, you know, so.
Alison Dubois: o it doesn't show anywhere in: Tom McMullen:Not a lot.
Tom McMullen:No, it's a lot of conflict.
Tom McMullen:It really is.
Alison Dubois:So when you're reading conflict, can conflict be something that we have to do that maybe say one skirmish gets ended, but the other one's still existing?
Alison Dubois:So one of them would be enough to show up in that chart that you're looking at.
Alison Dubois:I mean, that means that there could be some advancement in these battles that are being fought.
Tom McMullen:Absolutely.
Tom McMullen:That's the point of them.
Tom McMullen:Right.
Alison Dubois:And so.
Alison Dubois:Or it'll intensify because we're about to change administrations and put an end to it.
Alison Dubois:But if there was an end to it, wouldn't you see that in the chart?
Tom McMullen:Well, if I look at the United States chart.
Tom McMullen:Yeah, because we're starting all over again.
Alison Dubois:We'll do that.
Tom McMullen:But I am referencing the United States chart because this is a rebirth of the same revolution that happened when it created the country.
Alison Dubois:Okay, so Jupiter goes into Cancer in the spring and we're a Cancerian country.
Alison Dubois:So could that be some sense of harmony?
Tom McMullen:Well, let me give you some insight into that.
Tom McMullen:Because we have Mercury and Cancer opposite Pluto and Capricorn in the birth chart of the usa, which means we force our opinion on everybody in terms of what we want them to be the way we do it.
Alison Dubois:Well, we just want them to make their own money.
Alison Dubois:That's pretty.
Tom McMullen:Well, I'm just saying Pluto and Capricorn, we were born with that moniker of like, we're the country, we're the leader.
Alison Dubois:Well, that had to do with freedom though, when they fought the revolution for America.
Alison Dubois:So yeah, we did believe that all countries should have free voting.
Tom McMullen:Right.
Tom McMullen:But we have five planets in Cancer, so.
Tom McMullen:And, but here's the interesting part where.
Alison Dubois:You'Ll like, sometimes mothers have to back off a little.
Alison Dubois:You know what I'm saying?
Tom McMullen:Yeah, I know.
Tom McMullen:But this is.
Tom McMullen:Here's the thing.
Tom McMullen:We'll talk about mother because we're talking about the moon.
Alison Dubois:Yes, yes.
Tom McMullen:You're going to like where the moon is.
Tom McMullen:Where do you think the Moon is?
Tom McMullen:Is in the American's chart where the moon is.
Tom McMullen:Let's sign Pisces in Aquarius.
Alison Dubois:Is it?
Tom McMullen:Yes.
Alison Dubois:No moon in Aquarius can be cold.
Tom McMullen:We want to free ourselves when to free others.
Tom McMullen:We want to be a part of that and help.
Tom McMullen:You know, it's all about liberating the world.
Alison Dubois:She wouldn't want to have to be the policeman to the world.
Tom McMullen:So this one I'm sitting next to would not.
Tom McMullen:Apparently.
Tom McMullen:So.
Alison Dubois:Aquarius doesn't want that.
Tom McMullen:Yeah, so.
Tom McMullen:But she wants change.
Tom McMullen:Yeah.
Alison Dubois:But she can be detached.
Tom McMullen:Yeah.
Tom McMullen:Because she wants to do things her way.
Tom McMullen:Yeah.
Tom McMullen:Okay.
Alison Dubois:Isn't she usually right?
Alison Dubois:Okay, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Tom McMullen:This is what I put up with.
Alison Dubois:Okay.
Alison Dubois:I love it.
Tom McMullen:The interesting thing is, you know, being focused on its allegiance to certain ideologies that's kind of like, you know, that Aquarian energy.
Tom McMullen:And so, you know, change to future progress is very much a part of this obviously.
Tom McMullen:But here's an interesting thing I wrote down.
Tom McMullen:A long term cause and goal may be more important than the casualties that may ensue because there's casualties and change, there's casualties in war.
Tom McMullen:Brings out the humanity.
Tom McMullen:So you can't have humanity and disaster without some kind of collateral damage.
Tom McMullen:Exactly.
Tom McMullen:And that's where we talk about when we have human interactions with natural disasters is when we come together.
Tom McMullen:It's the same thing.
Tom McMullen:So who we are championing in our world and you know, whether we're part of Israel, we're part of, you know, Syria, whatever it is, that's where the.
Alison Dubois:Those aren't natural disasters.
Alison Dubois:But when there's innocent people being killed, sure.
Alison Dubois:We all come together.
Alison Dubois:Yeah.
Tom McMullen:So and again it's, we have a separate divided party.
Tom McMullen:Right.
Tom McMullen:In half.
Tom McMullen:Now I wanted to bring up that we've had Uranus in Taurus.
Tom McMullen:Okay.
Tom McMullen:And it's going to move out of that sign.
Tom McMullen:But what it did in it, that's.
Alison Dubois:Like the least Uranus thing in the world.
Tom McMullen:They're both fixed signs.
Alison Dubois:That's true.
Tom McMullen:They're both stubborn as hell.
Alison Dubois:That's true.
Tom McMullen:So you know, the interesting thing is Uranus wants change and Taurus is possessive.
Alison Dubois:Give me my toys back.
Alison Dubois:Yeah, totally.
Tom McMullen:But what it's done is challenge our monetary system because change in money first we got money in politics.
Tom McMullen:The first time we had elected a president was a successful billionaire businessman was brand new.
Tom McMullen:Absolutely brand new.
Alison Dubois:Well, we wanted somebody that was a non politician, I think.
Tom McMullen:Yeah.
Tom McMullen:But moneyed.
Alison Dubois:Right.
Tom McMullen:Right now we have Elon Musk coming into the White House.
Alison Dubois:I love it.
Alison Dubois:Show me some success.
Tom McMullen:But see money and well, that's a money man.
Tom McMullen:That's a Yang thing.
Alison Dubois:So Bitcoin, wouldn't that be completely Aquarian?
Tom McMullen:That's right down Cryptocurrency.
Tom McMullen:Yeah.
Tom McMullen:Yes.
Tom McMullen:So that's a new monetary system that your generation or my generation is like.
Tom McMullen:No, we don't trust, we don't trust it at all.
Alison Dubois:So true.
Tom McMullen:It's invisible.
Tom McMullen:I need cash in my hand.
Alison Dubois:Yeah.
Alison Dubois:It's like you've made like you invested $400 and you've made 1.5 million.
Alison Dubois:Congratulations.
Alison Dubois:Now how do you turn it into actual money?
Alison Dubois:Yeah, that's a problem.
Tom McMullen:But, but Uranus in Taurus is a, is a yin energy yet again because Venus rules it.
Tom McMullen:So then you had gender labels, you transit transgender issues.
Tom McMullen:You have trans, you know, they call, you know, dressing like a man or a woman or whatever.
Tom McMullen:It is a mutation in fashion, how they kind of cross over and you look at fashion world.
Tom McMullen:So.
Tom McMullen:But it, but it is the cancel culture still cancel culture.
Alison Dubois:It's not working, though.
Tom McMullen:No, it didn't.
Tom McMullen:Now it's.
Tom McMullen:Now it's moving out of that.
Alison Dubois:Right.
Tom McMullen:So, you know, we get the intellect of Uranus in Gemini.
Tom McMullen:So this is again, we're going into very strong areas of thinking out of the box.
Alison Dubois:Wouldn't that be space?
Tom McMullen:Space, yeah.
Tom McMullen:In technology, thinking outside of the box.
Tom McMullen:So, you know, war of the words.
Tom McMullen:That's what we're going to say because we're going to.
Tom McMullen:It's going to be a war of words.
Tom McMullen:Media is going to shift like crazy.
Alison Dubois:It's going to be an interesting news cycle.
Tom McMullen:Yeah.
Tom McMullen:Oh, you can't even imagine.
Alison Dubois:Pop the popcorn and get the wine.
Tom McMullen:So.
Tom McMullen:But it's the power of self identification.
Tom McMullen:So this is about defining yourself away from somebody that's trying to tell you what you can and cannot be.
Tom McMullen:Like banning books and saying free speech just comes down to free speech.
Tom McMullen:Because Uranus in Gemini is free speech extraordinaire.
Tom McMullen:Okay.
Tom McMullen:So there can't be any cancel.
Tom McMullen:Maybe comedians get to come back and.
Alison Dubois:That'S going to be entertain us again.
Alison Dubois:Yeah, but that's going to be hard because that would extend to what you're talking about.
Alison Dubois:I think we were watching different stations while we were going through all this because the book burning that they were referring to obviously as a Nazi reference from World War II.
Alison Dubois:But one side didn't want pornography in public school libraries and the other side was saying they want to ban books.
Alison Dubois:It's like they want to ban books that teach kids how to give blowjobs.
Alison Dubois:And that's probably okay.
Alison Dubois:So they're going to have to define with their intellect some sort of a line that can be agreed upon.
Tom McMullen:But this comes back to Neptune again, because Neptune as it was in Capricorn and Neptune in general, you saw a huge surgeons of evangelical people in, in the Republican Party and.
Alison Dubois:Well, no, people across the country, millennials were starting to go to church.
Alison Dubois:There was this smell of it, but.
Tom McMullen:Exactly.
Alison Dubois:But you're drinking water.
Tom McMullen:Mega churches are blue, are growing again.
Tom McMullen:So, you know, going back to religion is still something that people are.
Alison Dubois:You know what, that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Alison Dubois:It's a sense of community.
Alison Dubois:And that's.
Alison Dubois:It's not.
Alison Dubois:I'm a religious person.
Alison Dubois:I'm really not.
Alison Dubois:But I do believe in God.
Alison Dubois:I do believe in a higher power, if you will.
Alison Dubois:I don't.
Alison Dubois:I'm not arrogant enough to think that we are the end all manifestation of the higher level of frequency in the universe.
Alison Dubois:Right.
Alison Dubois:And so when people go to church back in the day when communities were small before they spread out and sort of made this mess that they've made across the country, and there's still some small communities in places, but if you had a problem and you couldn't make your rent or you were hungry, the church furnished that for you with the community donations.
Alison Dubois:And people came together to help one another because it's how they were able to maintain society.
Tom McMullen:But that's the, the right good part of that.
Tom McMullen:The community itself, it is the doctrination.
Alison Dubois:Right.
Tom McMullen:Is not okay.
Alison Dubois:But again, you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Alison Dubois:They're gonna have to find a cleaner version of it.
Alison Dubois:It's like, don't get rid of it, just get rid of pedophilia, you know, that sort of thing, which we're aware now.
Alison Dubois:And there have been lawsuits, yada yada.
Alison Dubois:But my point being the church itself is good for the community.
Tom McMullen:Yes, I, I'm saying community minded.
Tom McMullen:It is.
Tom McMullen:But when you.
Tom McMullen:We have a separation of church and state, that's always tricky.
Tom McMullen:That's the part where it gets tricky.
Alison Dubois:Right.
Tom McMullen:So when someone has a community of a Jewish community or a Christian community, whatever, that's great.
Tom McMullen:But don't say, you know, you can't be a part of our society if you're not a part of our religion.
Alison Dubois:Oh, God, no.
Alison Dubois:Yeah, no, I'm just saying.
Alison Dubois:I'm just saying churches are good in the, in the situation that if somebody's in need, the churches come to the aid of the person in the community who's a parishioner.
Tom McMullen:Right.
Alison Dubois:So I think they do serve a purpose in providing that backbone of a community.
Alison Dubois:I'm not saying anything about excluding any particular religion from a community.
Tom McMullen:Yeah.
Tom McMullen:So the point of Uranus in Gemini, essentially, there's going to be a lot of debates around ideas.
Tom McMullen:And I will say it's consensus eventually that we're going to have to learn that both sides get a chance to speak.
Tom McMullen:Both tries get us.
Tom McMullen:Both sides get a chance to have a point of view.
Tom McMullen:And there has to be a consensus for Peace to happen, essentially.
Tom McMullen:So it's.
Alison Dubois:Don't you think humanity is just kind of hopeless when it comes to peace?
Alison Dubois:I mean, we'd all have to agree on everything and we're all different variations of energy.
Alison Dubois:How would that ever happen?
Tom McMullen:Well, we'll see.
Tom McMullen:So then we go to Saturn.
Tom McMullen:So Saturn is going to move into Aries and it will join up with Neptune later.
Tom McMullen:Well, that's not going to happen for a while.
Tom McMullen:But Saturn's in a sign for two to three years and it will go in.
Tom McMullen:Now we go back to summer of 25, June of 25.
Tom McMullen:Saturn will move into Aries as it comes out of Pisces.
Tom McMullen:That's a good thing.
Tom McMullen:Saturn was not happy in Pisces.
Tom McMullen:Once again, it's an earth and fire, yin and yang energy.
Alison Dubois:Saturn's work.
Alison Dubois:Right.
Tom McMullen:Saturn is structure.
Alison Dubois:Well, so it wouldn't be happy in Pisces.
Alison Dubois:Pisces is like, I'm going to take a beer break.
Alison Dubois:Right.
Tom McMullen:No, that's.
Tom McMullen:The whole thing was delusion, illusion and.
Tom McMullen:Yeah, all the things that we.
Tom McMullen:That were very.
Tom McMullen:Neptune and confinement and.
Tom McMullen:Yeah, no, we got to get it the hell out of there.
Alison Dubois:Yes.
Tom McMullen:So.
Tom McMullen:But it rules the military.
Tom McMullen:Saturn in Aries rules the military because it's a structure.
Tom McMullen:Aries is war.
Alison Dubois:Aries, you know, so it's a patriarchal system.
Tom McMullen:Yes, it is.
Tom McMullen:And the last times, I'll give you two times it was in that sign and that was again back to 67 and 69, which were still in.
Tom McMullen:And 37 and 39.
Tom McMullen:So that was the beginning of World War II in Europe.
Alison Dubois:Yeah.
Tom McMullen:So again, conflicts, military and authority is.
Tom McMullen:Your authority is challenged.
Tom McMullen:If you have Saturn in Aries in your chart, especially if you're male, you have daddy issues right away or you.
Alison Dubois:Join the military immediately looking for the patriarchal structure.
Tom McMullen:Yes.
Tom McMullen:And even women.
Tom McMullen:I get a lot of women with Saturn in Aries that go into the military.
Alison Dubois:Makes sense.
Tom McMullen:Yeah.
Alison Dubois:Yeah.
Tom McMullen:But at the time we look at that time in 67 to 69, it was opposition to the war.
Tom McMullen:We were in Vietnam and there was a whole protest were about we're not supposed to be there.
Tom McMullen:So there'll be a lot of conflict about if we get into any kind of wars that you know, we're into.
Tom McMullen:Right, exactly.
Alison Dubois:I don't know that the young people share the same energy as the boomers did back in the late 60s.
Alison Dubois:I don't see them protesting for our boys that are would go off to fight, say because we're fighting proxy wars.
Alison Dubois:So.
Tom McMullen:Exactly.
Tom McMullen:So why would we Even go into someone else's war.
Alison Dubois:Right, that's the point.
Alison Dubois:Well, I think a lot of answers are going to be revealed in the next few months.
Alison Dubois:It's going to be interesting, is going.
Tom McMullen:To be challenged, essentially.
Tom McMullen:Yeah.
Tom McMullen:It's also, again, forcing your beliefs on somebody else because it's in Aries.
Tom McMullen:So someone, you know, this is how I do things.
Tom McMullen:This is my structure.
Tom McMullen:This is the dad that you can't we do it my way or the highway?
Alison Dubois:But if somebody makes rules, which there has to be some rules in the world, or it's chaos, it's anarchy.
Alison Dubois:Right?
Alison Dubois:I think we can agree on that.
Tom McMullen:Yes.
Alison Dubois:So isn't somebody always going to feel like it's being forced on them?
Alison Dubois:I mean, so isn't that perspective that's on the person?
Tom McMullen:I guess.
Alison Dubois:Right?
Alison Dubois:That's what I'm saying.
Alison Dubois:No, there's a choice.
Alison Dubois:Everyone's ever going to get along.
Tom McMullen:Someone chooses to go into the military.
Alison Dubois:Right.
Tom McMullen:So they're get, they're, they're chose.
Tom McMullen:They choose to go into a system they can feel secure in and protected in and, and a part of it's another community.
Alison Dubois:Right.
Tom McMullen:And it is that, that you have.
Tom McMullen:Because if we look at men or women going in the military, they're given rules, disciplines and order in order to survive.
Alison Dubois:Well, and they're given money for college.
Alison Dubois:You know, they can pay their bills and, and they should be able to pay their bills anyways.
Alison Dubois:I know in the last four years there was a time when they couldn't, so.
Tom McMullen:But my point is, is that it.
Alison Dubois:Gives them that financial stability.
Alison Dubois:It gives them the patriarchal figure, much like a coach.
Alison Dubois:I'm sure those people were in sports when they were younger.
Tom McMullen:Sure.
Alison Dubois:Okay.
Tom McMullen:That is, that is the coach of the team.
Alison Dubois:I get it.
Alison Dubois:Okay.
Tom McMullen:But it really, I'm going to give you the positive things that you can create in your life with this energy.
Tom McMullen:For those who come in with a challenge of Saturn in Aries is you're here to learn self discipline, self structure.
Tom McMullen:It's, it's, it's to achieve.
Tom McMullen:This is where I said, if you've got an idea, this is to put a plan down like you're going to military.
Tom McMullen:Here's the plan, here's the rules, here's the disciplines I'm going to do to get myself there.
Tom McMullen:It means to achieve it and not give up.
Tom McMullen:It's very entrepreneurial.
Tom McMullen:So someone that has, that desires to be in charge of their own structure in their own form and business, everybody.
Alison Dubois:No matter what sign you are, are going to Absorb these energies of what's going on.
Alison Dubois:So that's why Tom's explaining it to all of you because you're going to be absorbing this energy and taking on some of these characteristics in your own life.
Tom McMullen:So even in your own chart, if you got a lot of Aries, you have these natures anyway.
Tom McMullen:But if you've got Saturn there that you're going to have issues with authority.
Tom McMullen:When we look at the Uranus energy and Pluto in Aquarius, that is two buck systems.
Tom McMullen:So there is this challenge with this.
Tom McMullen:It's like what systems works for us and where are we going to feel like I don't want to be in this system.
Tom McMullen:There are people here already.
Tom McMullen:It's like, I don't.
Tom McMullen:I'm leaving the country or the people going, I'm going to another country.
Tom McMullen:Well, that's the problem because our borders and boundaries want to shut down.
Tom McMullen:Because that's the thing that happened with Pluto and, or Neptune and Capricorn.
Tom McMullen:All the mutation of people moving into borders and you know, going into places they.
Alison Dubois:Oh, if people want to leave, we're totally fine with that.
Tom McMullen:No, I know that's.
Alison Dubois:But anyway, that's okay.
Tom McMullen:There is.
Tom McMullen:You will see a lot of fires.
Tom McMullen:There's gonna be more fires that crop up with this energy because the land itself is, you know, so why not?
Alison Dubois:Yeah.
Alison Dubois:So are you talking about California?
Alison Dubois:Well, that's always California.
Tom McMullen:Fires and droughts.
Tom McMullen:It can be all over the world.
Tom McMullen:I mean that's sort of like.
Alison Dubois:But you, I mean.
Alison Dubois:Yeah, you only usually see it in certain places.
Tom McMullen:People, places that are like have that say in Australia or.
Alison Dubois:But Australia.
Alison Dubois:Yeah, they have had some.
Alison Dubois:Gotta clear the brush.
Alison Dubois:The dead brush people.
Tom McMullen:There's also a possibility of a lot of earthquake action.
Alison Dubois:Ooh, yeah.
Tom McMullen:Earth change.
Alison Dubois:Yeah.
Tom McMullen:Yeah.
Tom McMullen:So that it's, you know, all these things are in this year that are going forward than backwards.
Tom McMullen:So the.
Tom McMullen:We're gonna have a reaction.
Tom McMullen:We're gonna have a happening and then a reaction to it.
Tom McMullen:So there's the things will an action and a reaction is gonna.
Tom McMullen:How it's gonna feel this year.
Tom McMullen:It's like things happen like oh my God, then we're gonna talk about it forever and then move into the next thing.
Tom McMullen:You know, one of those.
Alison Dubois:Yeah.
Tom McMullen:All the media is gonna be go now this has happened and now we got to talk about that.
Tom McMullen:Since something else immediately will happen and go, okay, now I gotta talk about that.
Alison Dubois:I think the media will be happy to finally be able to work.
Alison Dubois:They'll have something to talk about.
Tom McMullen:They'll have plenty to talk about.
Tom McMullen:That's definitely Uranus.
Tom McMullen:And Gemini is definitely a lot of talk.
Tom McMullen:And I mean Saturn or.
Tom McMullen:Yeah, Uranus.
Alison Dubois:Excuse me, Uranus is in Gemini.
Alison Dubois:You were talking about Saturn and Aries.
Tom McMullen:Yeah, Saturn I'm done with.
Tom McMullen:Okay, I will just bring in Jupiter because it happens in June of 25 also, and it moves into cancer out of Gemini.
Tom McMullen:This creates more of that understanding, compassion.
Tom McMullen:It's exalted.
Tom McMullen:Jupiter's exalted in cancer because it's humanitarian itself.
Tom McMullen:To mother, to nurture.
Tom McMullen:And so whatever does happen in this year, in the disasters, in the sudden things that happen, you're going to feel a sense of empathy, a lot of strong feelings about wanting to help.
Tom McMullen:And it's very sensitive to injustice because Jupiter is justice and cancer is your sensitivity once again to those who are the ones that fell from the disasters, the ones that are the byproducts of whatever's going on.
Tom McMullen:There'll be a poll for us hopefully next summer.
Tom McMullen:Whatever's happening that we.
Tom McMullen:There is a.
Tom McMullen:There is like, we got to take care of these people, you know?
Alison Dubois:Which people do you think they're gonna have?
Tom McMullen:No idea.
Alison Dubois:So does the whole world do that or is that wherever it's happening?
Tom McMullen:Wherever it's happening.
Alison Dubois:Wherever it's happening.
Tom McMullen:Yeah.
Tom McMullen:This is global.
Tom McMullen:This isn't just D.
Tom McMullen:Okay, so wherever.
Alison Dubois:The disasters are happening, people will be deployed from multiple countries to help out.
Tom McMullen:Exactly.
Alison Dubois:Get them on their feet.
Alison Dubois:We're probably going to be rebuilding Ukraine.
Alison Dubois:Well, we're rebuilding as new structures, so.
Tom McMullen:Rebuilding new structures as Saturn in Aries.
Alison Dubois:Right.
Tom McMullen:That's still building new structures.
Alison Dubois:It's going to be interesting, though.
Alison Dubois:People can't afford houses.
Alison Dubois:We've got two generations having trouble buying houses and they want us to rebuild other countries.
Alison Dubois:It's going to be an interesting, interesting year.
Tom McMullen:I read an article yesterday on, you know, they're.
Tom McMullen:They're.
Tom McMullen:What do they call it?
Tom McMullen:Imprinting houses?
Tom McMullen:You know, like out of computers, like fabricating.
Tom McMullen:Fabricating houses.
Alison Dubois:It's like a mobile home made by a computer.
Tom McMullen:No, it comes out of.
Tom McMullen:It's like builds walls and everything, you know?
Alison Dubois:Okay.
Tom McMullen:By machinery.
Alison Dubois:We have a lot of houses.
Alison Dubois:We have a lot of people here.
Alison Dubois:We have to see who's here.
Alison Dubois:We may not need more houses, but.
Tom McMullen:There'Ll be innovation in building.
Tom McMullen:Oh, I just went.
Tom McMullen:Did I go silent?
Alison Dubois:I can hear you.
Tom McMullen:Okay.
Tom McMullen:It essentially is.
Tom McMullen:It is going to be a new way of.
Tom McMullen:Of housing, if you will.
Alison Dubois:Interesting.
Alison Dubois:Because.
Alison Dubois:Because, yeah, maybe a new way of housing is people go back to where their place of origin, however it works.
Alison Dubois:I mean, that could be.
Alison Dubois:So that is going to be interesting.
Alison Dubois:There's a lot going on this year.
Alison Dubois:Okay.
Alison Dubois: rds to describe and to define: Tom McMullen:Change.
Tom McMullen:Unexpected.
Tom McMullen:Compassion.
Alison Dubois:Okay.
Alison Dubois:Compassion is nice.
Tom McMullen:Yeah.
Tom McMullen:I have to pull that in because there's going to be so much instability and upheaval that.
Alison Dubois:But we've had so much instability and upheaval.
Alison Dubois:We lived through a pandemic for grace sake.
Tom McMullen:Rock and roll.
Alison Dubois:Yeah.
Alison Dubois:So you think we're going to go to war?
Alison Dubois:Okay.
Alison Dubois:Like more so than the two that we're already involved in.
Tom McMullen:It just feels that way to me.
Tom McMullen:It feels there's gonna be a lot of threats.
Tom McMullen:Just say that.
Alison Dubois:There's gonna be a lot of threats.
Alison Dubois:There are a lot of threats right now.
Alison Dubois:I think we're gonna.
Alison Dubois:I think we're strong.
Alison Dubois:We're gonna work through whatever happens.
Alison Dubois:I'm just looking forward to a new year because it's been a really tough.
Alison Dubois: It's like it was: Alison Dubois: It'll be pre: Alison Dubois:And it's two totally different worlds and it's almost unrecognizable.
Tom McMullen:Yeah.
Alison Dubois:So, yeah.
Alison Dubois:So okay.
Alison Dubois: I want to be excited about: Alison Dubois:People have been stressed for so long.
Alison Dubois:People, go, do what you want.
Alison Dubois:Be happy.
Alison Dubois:Enjoy your families.
Alison Dubois:Put the phones down.
Alison Dubois:Don't get caught up in like fear mongering or, you know, stress and anxiety because it doesn't help anything anyways.
Alison Dubois:You might as well enjoy your time here.
Alison Dubois:That's what the dead tell me.
Alison Dubois:Enjoy your time while you're here because it's short.
Alison Dubois:Enjoy the people you love.
Alison Dubois:Some of them won't be here next year.
Alison Dubois:Make the effort for Christmas column.
Alison Dubois:Surprise them, go see them, send them a gift and make it great.
Alison Dubois:Because, you know, for all the Christmases, you didn't take the time to see them do something good.
Alison Dubois:That's what this is.
Alison Dubois: That's what: Alison Dubois:It's the lessons we've learned in the last five years since the pandemic and putting it into action of how we want our life to look.
Alison Dubois:A lot of people want it to go back to the way it was.
Alison Dubois:More so like in the 90s when kids could be kids in the 80s.
Alison Dubois:Get kids on bicycles, not electric bikes.
Alison Dubois:That's not helping them stay in shape.
Alison Dubois:I mean, that's why we were all thin in this 70s and 80s is because we were athletes.
Alison Dubois:Because we played.
Alison Dubois:You're not playing if you're on an electric bike.
Alison Dubois:I don't get this.
Alison Dubois:What people are doing.
Tom McMullen:People.
Alison Dubois:No.
Alison Dubois:I see kids on all the time.
Alison Dubois:I don't get it.
Tom McMullen:I know.
Alison Dubois:So yeah.
Alison Dubois:Reassess your lives, people.
Alison Dubois:And the accountability part I like where people the self structure and self discipline of Saturn and Aries.
Alison Dubois:I hope people don't do the right thing just because people are watching.
Alison Dubois:But they do the right thing even when there's nobody around.
Alison Dubois:That self discipline and that's being a good person because you hold yourself to a higher standard.
Tom McMullen:Correct?
Tom McMullen:Yeah.
Alison Dubois:Happy New Year.
Alison Dubois:So where can people reach you if they want to have their chart run and have a karmic reading?
Tom McMullen:Tom mcmullen.com and McMullen's M C M U L L A N and that's my website.
Tom McMullen:It shows you go to the menu and how to get a reading from me.
Tom McMullen:You can email me@tomomcmullen.com and right now I'm about three or four weeks booked out and it gets really busy as we hit January.
Alison Dubois:It'd be a good gift for Christmas, honestly.
Tom McMullen:Yeah, I got a few of those already coming up.
Alison Dubois:Yeah, people are very lost and so.
Alison Dubois:Nope, that's.
Alison Dubois:That's a great idea.
Alison Dubois:Even Sophia's like, I gotta get some of those for my friends.
Alison Dubois:Some gift certificates from Tom for Christmas.
Alison Dubois:So.
Alison Dubois:Okay.
Alison Dubois:Go find Tom.
Alison Dubois:At least know what baggage you came in with from a past life.
Alison Dubois:I love hearing that.
Alison Dubois:You're so right on when it comes to the energy we carry and we can identify with certain time periods and places that.
Alison Dubois:Yeah, that makes sense that I was there.
Alison Dubois:I love that.
Alison Dubois:So thank you very much, Tom.
Alison Dubois:I'll see you next year.
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