How We Hatched: Bryan Enriquez, Founding Team Member of Hallow

Welcome to our most recent episode of “How We Hatched"! In this episode, you’ll hear from Bryan Enriquez, one of the founders of prayer & meditation app, Hallow.

During this episode, Bryan shares the story his founder’s journey that led him to be part of the team behind Hallow.

Here are just a few of the topics discussed:

• The story behind the app and the impact it's made in the lives of people from age 18 to 80.
• How his career working for the Department of Justice surprisingly led him to become an entrepreneur.
• How the founding team established relationships with a strong lineup of investors (including Joe Montana and Mark Wahlberg, just to name a few!).
• How they’re solving the problem of busyness and stress by helping users establish routines of prayer, mindfulness, and meditation.

About today’s guest: Bryan Enriquez is a founding team member and the Head of Customer Operations at Hallow. In that role, he leads the Community team, the Customer Insights team, and the Customer Support team as well as planning official events for Hallow. Bryan is a 2015 graduate of the University of Notre Dame (B.A.) and a 2021 graduate of the Yale School of Management (MBA).

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Brian, thanks for joining

us on the pair program.

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Um, it's another bonus episode of a

mini series we call how we hatched.

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Uh, just a fun discussion to hear

a little bit more about your.

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You need career journey, you know, kind

of where you came from and how you arrived

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at this current point in your seat today

as one of the co founders of halo, a halo,

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a B2C app focused on health and wellness.

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Um, so first I always like to start by

we'll get into the foundation of who.

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Uh, Brian Enriquez is, so kick off with

the question, you know, what did, what

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did Brian have for breakfast this morning?

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Bryan Enriquez: Yeah, that's a,

that's a, that's a great question.

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So actually right now

the answer is nothing.

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Um, I, uh, I've started

recently intermittent fasting.

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Um, okay.

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Tim Winkler: Okay.

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And

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Bryan Enriquez: it's, it's going well.

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Uh, I've been at it for

about a month and a half now.

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Is this your first

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time

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Tim Winkler: trying something like this?

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Bryan Enriquez: Yes.

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Uh, so I actually have some autoimmune,

uh, situations I'm trying to go

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through and trying to improve on.

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And yeah, it's actually helped.

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Um, I, I looked up some, some articles

from Johns Hopkins that talks about

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how intermittent fasting can help

reduce inflammation in the body.

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One point, it's like, Oh, it's one

of these bufu shishi like trends, but

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it's actually like an actual, you know,

it's It had the science behind it.

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So I'm like, I'll give it a try.

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Um, I was not trying to lose weight.

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I ended up losing quite a bit.

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Um, and I do feel better.

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So it's going to be something I'm going

to try to incorporate moving forward.

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So

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Tim Winkler: how long do

you go for your first meal?

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Bryan Enriquez: So I try to do, I eat at

noon and then I stop eating after 8 PM.

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Okay.

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Let's

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Tim Winkler: say.

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Do you like, as far as like a

morning routine, uh, what do you,

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what do you kind of get into?

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Do you, do you have a, a, a consistent

routine you try to stick to?

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Bryan Enriquez: Yeah.

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So I think for me, it depends

on whether or not to go into

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the office, uh, every day.

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So at hollow, we're a remote first

organization, which means, you

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know, I mean, the majority of our

folks don't work here in Chicago.

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I'm here.

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We just moved offices.

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We're in a, in a new, we

worked, which is very nice.

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Um, yeah.

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You're in the Fulton market,

Wesley, Barry and Chicago.

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Um, I live like 10 minutes

away, so it's really easy.

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My routine, if I'm walking is I try to,

um, meditate and pray in the morning.

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Um, so I'll do like one

of our hollow sessions.

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I'm like, I'm, I'm one of those users

of, of, uh, the product that I've made.

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So part of my role is try to

share feedback from our users.

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And that is also me.

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So I use it every day.

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Um, and yeah, so I pray rosary when I walk

into work and when I'm staying here, I,

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I sort of mix it up and, you know, before

I would eat something for breakfast.

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No, I don't.

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Um, yeah, so my, when I'm here, I

just try to wake up and, um, top

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level things that I have to tackle.

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I have it ready.

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I have my, my calendar is

one of those things where I

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have everything time blocked.

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So people think it looks psychotic, but

for me, it brings me a sense of peace

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because I know what I have to do when,

um, and it's all color coordinated.

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So yeah.

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Tim Winkler: Oh man, you're,

you got it down to science.

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Time blocks are key.

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I, I'm always, uh, you know, as a,

as a small business founder, I'm

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I got a block off that morning.

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Uh, I can't get attacked in the morning

by, by a bunch of, you know, meetings

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and like requests and one on ones.

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Like that's, that's, uh, that morning

is, is super important to just kind

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of get the day scheduled, you know,

make sure you know what you're

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doing and, and get a good start.

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Um, cool.

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Well, you know, we, um, we always like

to start by having you provide, you know,

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the listeners with a quick, quick overview

on, on hallow and, you know, kind of.

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Kind of work you guys are doing

problems you're solving here.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So

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Bryan Enriquez: I think, um, we

were talking earlier, um, before

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we got started about sort of what

is how and where did it come from.

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So really our perspective, um, the

goal is we want to help people pray.

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That's our mission.

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That's literally our mission statements.

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We want to help people pray.

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Um, the reason is because

prayer changed our lives.

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Um, you know, having the space for

meditation and reflecting on, you know,

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your purpose in life and your relationship

with others and your relationship

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with God is, has been massive.

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Um, but we came from a background of

not really knowing how to do that.

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Um, and so that's sort of the voice

that we try to bring to the app is,

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um, we're going to walk with you.

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So it's all audio guided, right?

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So all you do is you open the

app, you find a type of session

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that's attractive to you.

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You hit play.

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Okay.

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And then you can have 1 of our guides walk

through it might be Francis, who is 1 of

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our founding members and is my roommate.

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Um, or it could be Mark Wahlberg.

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Um, so we've got an interesting mix

of guys in the app, um, for different,

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um, yeah, backgrounds and interests.

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So cool.

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Tim Winkler: Yeah, we'll, uh, get

a little bit more into that, uh,

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throughout the, uh, discussion, but, um.

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Let's flash back a little bit.

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I like to, I like to peel back

the founder's journey, uh, before

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I dive deeper into the story of,

of, of the technology or the app.

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So, uh, let's start with, uh, the roots

for you, you know, where'd you grow up?

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Uh, what eventually led you down this

path to being a tech entrepreneur?

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Bryan Enriquez: Yeah, absolutely.

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I was listening, um, to your, um,

earlier, um, podcasts with, um, Brian

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from Lauren studios, the, the game

studios and talking about just sort of

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like, Hey, like, where did you come from?

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And it's interesting, you know, he's

his experience of technology and like

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playing, you know, computers early

on that kind of resonated with me.

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I also loved computers

and tech growing up.

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Um, but, yes, I was born in Puerto Rico.

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Um, my parents are Puerto Rican.

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I was born there.

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I left when I was 2 years old, moved

around a lot when I was a kid, um, lived

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in Iowa and Missouri and Kansas, ended up

spending most of my time in Mississippi.

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So, I grew up a few years in the coast in

Bluxy, but I say that I'm from Meridian,

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which is Sort of close to the Alabama

border, um, and then I went back to Puerto

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Rico for a year, came back, graduated high

school in Mississippi, went to Notre Dame.

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I'm a big, uh, Irish fan.

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Um, and, uh, and then I ended up

working for the government in D.

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C.

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So in D.

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C.

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for 4 years, um, for the

Department of Justice.

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And I say that because I is probably

the least likely person to be involved

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on a, on a founding team of a startup.

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So I just wanted to speak into that.

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Some of your listeners might be like,

well, I don't know if that's me.

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I mean, you know, I

studied political science.

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I did study economics, but.

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I never visualized myself

as an entrepreneur.

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I never thought that I was, that's

what I was going to be doing.

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Tim Winkler: Um, didn't run in the family

or anything like absolutely parents.

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Okay.

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Bryan Enriquez: Absolutely not.

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No one, no one to my knowledge

has even started a company.

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Um, they'll have had, you know, great

experiences, but this flavor of let's

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start something from nothing is never

something that I even interacted with.

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I don't think I met somebody like I didn't

have any friends who had done it or like

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distant relatives or anything like that,

it was truly out of, out of nowhere.

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And, um, you know, I was

working for the government.

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I mean, when you think about, you know,

a startup, it's like the opposite of

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a startup is the federal government.

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I mean, it's something that's been around

for, you know, probably a hundred to

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200 years, depending on what department

and group and, um, the way that they run

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things a lot of times is set in stone and

there's, you know, different levels of

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hierarchy and we talk about a startup.

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It's like.

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Didn't exist, no one knows what it is,

you know, most people know what, you

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know, the Department of Commerce is, or,

you know, Department of Justice, um, DEA,

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like, those just are things that people

are aware of, and so when you're trying to

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create something that has no recognition,

like, when we start talking about HALO,

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like, no one knew what HALO was, right?

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So.

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You have to truly go from 0 to 1

as Peter Thiel talks about in his

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book, which is really helpful.

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So people

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Tim Winkler: just kind of fall into

that first gig out of school, right?

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I feel like you're just so lost and, you

know, a lot of times you don't, you know,

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you're not pursuing what you studied.

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Uh, you just, yeah.

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Connected by somebody that knew

someone who's trying to get a job.

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So, you know, sounds like you kind

of fell into, you know, into the

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world, you know, into the world

of government, you're in the area.

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Um,

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Bryan Enriquez: yeah, so I, I thought

I was going to be a lawyer actually.

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So I did mock trial in high

school and college and I thought,

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okay, you don't really go into

law after graduating, right?

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You go, you know, sometimes people

become a paralegal and I thought,

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well, I might as well just go and

try to work with some lawyers.

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You know what I mean?

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And try to get an experience and so

I went to the Department of Justice.

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I kind of got that.

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I got to work on projects with lawyers,

which is exactly what I wanted.

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And then I realized that

that was not my calling.

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Uh, law was not my calling.

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Um, I just got the things that made

me passionate or things that drove,

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I should say passion, um, in the work

that I did was more about problem

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solving and working with others.

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And law is sort of the framework

of is just different from that.

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It's more about Research, um, coming

together with, with briefs, um, giving

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counsel to other people that are making

decisions as like, that's, that's,

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that's cool for the people who do it.

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That's not necessarily what I want to do.

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Um, so, yeah.

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Tim Winkler: So then, uh, let's

fast forward and tell me how you,

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you know, how you got regrouped

with some of your, your, your.

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I guess co founders, right?

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Some, some of your, uh, your

friends from school and, uh,

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how did this idea come to mind?

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Bryan Enriquez: Yeah.

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So, I mean, again, not us not

really knowing, I mean, I certainly

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didn't have that background.

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I think so, Alex, um, he's our CEO,

Alex Jones, not the one from InfoWars.

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Um, he was my roommate in college.

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And we were randomly assigned,

um, uh, at Notre Dame.

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It's that first year.

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You just get randomly

assigned with a roommate.

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There's no look for me to fill out.

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You just, you know, and he was

the person that I met with.

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And then a few people on our floor,

um, that ended up also being on

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the founding team within my dorm.

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Um, so the short answer is we all

met in college with the exception

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of Eric, who had met Alex briefly.

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Um, so we were all sort

of friends from college.

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And then we started talking and

catching up on the weekends, sort of.

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Um, over the years after we had graduated.

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So, uh, we graduated in 2015

from Notre Dame and then the

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idea sort of came around in 2017.

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Uh, and then we actually started to,

you know, put things together, uh,

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and, and really talk about in 2018.

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Um, so the, the pre, there was a

precursor version of this, uh, of the

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idea and then there was the actual idea.

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So, um, the first version was

like, oh man, like we can maybe

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do a blog on like our journey.

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And so we started, uh, Alex also

under, and I started a blog.

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That I don't think anyone read, I

mean, we got like a WordPress site

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and we're like, let's just try to

share our experiences and journey

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with other people that did not work.

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I mean, we had no idea what we were doing.

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And so then in January of 2018, um,

Alex was like, yeah, I mean, why

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don't we start an app because I.

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Was was really impacted in my life was

changed through prayer and specifically

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meditative prayer, which is not

it's not that it's not mainstream.

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It's just maybe not talked

about as much right.

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Um, and so then he's and I was like,

yes, that sounds like an amazing idea.

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Let's do it again.

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Not really knowing what we

were getting ourselves into.

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Um, and so then we started to

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then launched it in December of 2018.

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Um, so this December will

officially be 5 years old.

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But the founding team

itself, there's 7 of us.

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Um, and we sort of came together

through, you know, being friends and

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like having the right skill sets.

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So I'm the sort of the

really extroverted person.

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Um, so my role is head

of customer operations.

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So trying to be the person who spends most

time talking with our users and bringing

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that insight to the different teams at

hallow building community, uh, running our

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customer support team, running our events.

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Um, so yeah.

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So, and then in terms of the, the, the

makeup three, the first three people

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to quit their jobs are the co founders.

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And then the next four, uh,

are the founding team members.

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So I'm the fourth person.

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So I'm actually a founding team member.

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Alex was the first and then Eric

and then Alessandro and then me.

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Um, so it was a really

interesting journey for us.

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Tim Winkler: where you were still

kind of consulting, you know, while,

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you know, the app was really kind

of being built in the background.

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Bryan Enriquez: Yeah.

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So we were all, I mean, we started

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like, Hey, like let's build this thing.

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And then Alex ended up quitting to

go to business school in the summer.

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So probably like June ish.

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Um, and then Eric and Alessandra quit

that fall, so they quit in, like, October,

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November, because we did a tech starter.

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That's how we got started

through that period.

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I was sort of working during

the day and then working after

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work, you know what I mean?

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So we have a weekly call,

um, to just chat, be like,

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okay, what's the next project?

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How are we getting feedback?

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What are we doing?

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What's this idea?

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We had, um, our first meeting in

May, so flew to San Francisco.

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Um, and we just kind of

like hash things out.

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There was a room of sticky notes.

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And so it's cool because it's like

one of those things you see on TV.

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Like, Oh, we're starting a startup.

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Like let's get sticky notes in a

room and let's, you know, it actually

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ended up being really helpful.

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Um, a lot of our ideas came

from that initial meeting.

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Um, so

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Tim Winkler: yeah, it's like a scene

out of like Silicon Valley, you know,

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the show, it's just like, uh, exactly.

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It was funny college

guys getting together.

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Well, you know, because it's always

interesting to see, um, you know, I kind

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of think back to like my journey to as

we're, you know, services companies,

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it's a little bit different because

you can kind of start as an independent

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consultant, kind of get a client base

going before you fully, you know,

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take that leap and start hiring folks.

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Whereas like when you're building an

app, it's a little bit different, right?

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You need funding and you need

some, some, some money to kind of.

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Help get you through and give you,

you know, that, that stability to feel

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comfortable to quit your job and really

focus full, full hearted on, on the.

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The company, um, and it sounds like

kickstarter was your all's, you know, kind

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of gave you, how much did you guys raise?

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Like from a, from a kickstarter,

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Bryan Enriquez: um, I think we were

like a 27, 000 from the kickstarter.

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Tim Winkler: And obviously everybody

had kind of saved a little bit

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of money up and, you know, that's

what I was going to say that

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Bryan Enriquez: the kickstarter

was in November, but before then.

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Um, we each had to look and

say, all right, like, how

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are we going to fund this?

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And so the answer was our, uh, 401k,

so I had to, and, you know, and I

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mean, we were only a few years out

of college, so it's not like we

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had a lot of, I mean, I certainly

didn't have a lot of, I don't know.

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Alessandro and a few of those

were in different industries.

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Um, so the pay different was there was

a pay difference, but I think none of us

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were, you know, sitting on a lot of money.

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So we had to rely on that for, you

know, the first few, uh, iterations of

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building it and getting people to help us.

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So we got some contractors early on

that ended up becoming employees later,

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um, worked out really, really well.

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The Kickstarter was there.

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Um, we, and then we did a seed

round, which is amazing, uh,

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about a year and a half later.

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Um, and that really was able to

kind of push us, um, to the, the

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next rounds that we we've closed.

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Tim Winkler: So cool.

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And, um, you know, tell me a

little bit about, you know,

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what your inspiration was.

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I think we, we kind of talked

about a little bit offline, but.

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You know, you guys were scratching

your, your own itch here.

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Um, but, um, I think you had

mentioned that, you know, one of

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the other founders had been using

Headspace or something, right.

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And it was kind of a, a

game changing experience.

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I think, uh, when you, when you think

about that type of technology, that app,

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um, was that one of the big influencers

with, with how you wanted to build?

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Bryan Enriquez: Yeah, so, I

mean, I think, um, there was

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2 things going on at the time.

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So Alex, it was his idea.

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Um, he was the one who had used headspace

and was found it helpful because it, it

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sort of helps you, um, find silence, um,

and which a lot of times people don't have

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silence in their days, you know, because

it's, it's this constant news feed.

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It's the notifications, it's the

emails, it's the, whatever the

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tick tocks or the Instagram reels.

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So.

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Yeah.

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That was helpful for him to create

a mind space, if you will, to think

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about what he truly believed in.

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And I think for him, before that had

happened with the meditation, it sort

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of, he was, he was searching, trying to

understand what he really believed and

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was one of the catalysts that helped

him realize that he wanted to pray.

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And I think that's, that is one of

the differences between the apps

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is when you talk about headspace,

you're really thinking about.

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Mindfulness meditation and the silence,

whereas how it was really like, how

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do you have a conversation with God?

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How do you pray?

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Um, and so he was like, well, we don't,

there's not really an app for that.

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I mean, obviously there's some apps that

give you like Bible verses and there's

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some Christian apps out there that are,

uh, non denominational Christian apps.

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There was nothing that was

like a Catholic focused app.

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And there were so many traditions

and things that are in the church

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for hundreds and hundreds of years,

thousands of years, sometimes that just

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weren't At least we thought like, I

never had a priest go up, get up and

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say, you should do, let's do Divina.

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Like, I had no idea what that was.

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Um, it turns out it's a way to

meditate and reflect on scripture,

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which is really powerful.

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Um, and so that, yeah, that was

sort of the inspiration was like,

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okay, there's this format that

worked well for me, but it's missing

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something and I need that something.

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Why don't we build that something?

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And so that was 1 of the

things that was happening.

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The 2nd thing at the same time.

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So at work.

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I, again, I was at the Department of

Justice 1 of the things that I was

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tasked with was looking at the mental

health wellness needs of operators in

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the branch of the Department of Justice.

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And so these operators, um,

you know, sometimes they defuse

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bombs, they rescue hostages.

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Um, they have to negotiate,

you know, with people who, who.

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Um, are difficult to negotiate with,

um, and so they have stressful jobs, um,

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and we were trying to figure out, you

know, what's the state of, of, of them.

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And we found that, uh, of all

the things that we recommended,

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um, a few things were interesting

1 mental health and resiliency.

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So when you phrase something as mental

health, it's like, uh, like, that's,

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there's a stigma attached to it.

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Sure.

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When you talk about mental resiliency,

it's actually people want to grow in it

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because they think it's like, oh, it's a

muscle, like I'm going to become stronger.

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So that really resonated with people.

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And then the other thing was

doing mindfulness meditation and

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just kind of finding silence.

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And so there was actual benefits

in terms of the heart rate

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and things you could measure.

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And so I, from that experience, when

he was talking about this, I was like,

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yeah, man, like, I've seen this work.

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And the, um, sort of secular context,

and so there's no reason why it can't

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work in the religious context as well.

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If we combine some of these

techniques with, um, you know,

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the experiences of, uh, and the

teachings of the Catholic faith.

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So that's kind of where the inspiration

came from, uh, initially to kind

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of develop the 1st version of it.

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Tim Winkler: Yeah, it's really a

fascinating space because I think you

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Instrumental time, I would say that

mindfulness is becoming, you know, like

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around when headspace, I started tapping

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2018, something around that time and,

and, uh, meditation and mindfulness

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was, was really popping off, I'd say.

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Um, so you guys kind of.

413

Got into it, I think, and wrote a,

an early rising wave where it was

414

kind of cool, you know, like people,

you know, especially younger folks

415

were like really getting into that.

416

Um, And, you know, to bring it back

to, um, you know, Catholicism at large,

417

something that, you know, I was, you

know, talking to you about offline was,

418

you know, you know, raised Catholic

and, you know, as a younger individual,

419

you know, going to a Catholic church,

you know, they had like CCD, right?

420

They had like, You know, you could

go and watch the videos, um, while,

421

you know, while maybe, you know,

the, your, your parents were, uh,

422

you know, actually in the sermon.

423

Um, but the, the reality was, it was

just, you know, it can oftentimes be

424

really challenging for younger folks

to, to find, uh, the Catholic religion

425

engaging, um, you know, and, and so

when I was doing my research on the app

426

and, you know, downloading and, and, you

know, engaging with it, I was like, This

427

is really catering to this, like, you

know, younger generation of Catholics.

428

Um, and I think there's a movement with

that too, and kind of like marrying

429

the, you know, the mindfulness and, uh,

religion and blending that together.

430

It's a really fascinating concept.

431

I'll obviously say like, you know,

B2C apps at large are extremely

432

difficult to get traction for.

433

Um, did you all, you know, did you,

was, was there, um, those conversations

434

happening around, like, just, you know,

talking to investors or just doing your

435

own research of like, what's it going

to take, uh, to be successful here?

436

Um, and did you get, you

know, discouraged at all?

437

And I'm always interested in those early

stages of you here, you know, this is the

438

type of traction you're going to need.

439

Uh, here's the fail rate.

440

Yeah.

441

How did, how did those conversations flow?

442

Bryan Enriquez: Certainly.

443

Um, difficult, you know, so

I think, I mean, there's the

444

stat that gets thrown around.

445

That's like, you know, 90 percent

of startups fail within two years.

446

Um, and in particular, you

know, B2C apps are tough.

447

You gotta really have a strong

sense of marketing and how

448

you're going to distribute it.

449

And you gotta really watch your, your, uh,

your CACs, you know, your cost to acquire.

450

Versus the LTV and like,

that's got to make sense.

451

Um, so yeah, so initially, um, Alex

sort of, uh, was the one who took on

452

these conversations and he had came back

and shared with us, like how it went.

453

Basically, I think it was

something like the first 50 or 60.

454

Like initial seed conversations

where, where people saying like,

455

you know, this is a stupid idea.

456

This is not going to go anywhere.

457

And I mean, that's, that's

a lot of conversation.

458

I mean, it's, it was dozens and dozens

and dozens of just, no, no, no, no, no.

459

It's a lot of

460

Tim Winkler: rejection.

461

And you

462

Bryan Enriquez: know, I mean, Alex

was like, look, God, like, I believe

463

that this is what you wanted me to do.

464

Right.

465

Like I need, like, I'm going to trust

you and please like, show me the way.

466

And I kid you not like immediately

after that, like the next day or two,

467

he got an, uh, an email, um, uh, and

a term sheet, um, from Suse Ventures.

468

Um, they've been fantastic.

469

Uh, and then once we got one term sheet,

we were able to get more and then we

470

closed our seed, we closed our series a,

I mean, it, it was really, um, amazing.

471

Uh, and I, so I think part of it was like,

Um, but also it's sort of the, what I was

472

talking about earlier, the, I think the

authenticity just really comes through,

473

especially in a Kickstarter video.

474

Cause it's just, it was Eric and Alex,

um, the two of them were just like,

475

Hey, like we're starting this thing.

476

And you know, again, we're not like

Eric and Alex, uh, and myself, we were

477

not really people who would consider

ourselves super religious or like,

478

I mean, yeah, we would go to church,

but like, it wasn't something that.

479

We were very engaged in and what we

realized is that people could see

480

themselves in that like, Hey, I wasn't

very engaged and then check it out.

481

I did this app and I, and

I learned how to pray.

482

I think for us, you know, having

that base routine of that habit, that

483

ritual of, Hey, I'm going to, I'm

praying and I'm meditating every day

484

enabled us to then understand and take

much more out of the actual services.

485

So, as before, I was like, I don't

understand why is there a red candle?

486

Why does he look like, why

is he dressed like a wizard?

487

Why does why do you have these robes?

488

I don't get it.

489

And then when you start to actually

be like, oh, I now understand

490

where this all comes from.

491

Um, it's from the Judeo Christian roots.

492

So it goes back to thousands of years to

like the time of Moses, um, of like these

493

robes and what it means to be a priest.

494

And so anyway, so I, I guess my point

is some people are like, Oh, are

495

you trying to be like a replacement

for, or a substitute for religion?

496

Like in, in terms of

like, uh, going to church.

497

And I think for us, absolutely not.

498

We want people to pray.

499

And certainly if you're not

a Catholic, but that's okay.

500

If you're not a Christian, that's okay.

501

Like

502

Tim Winkler: that was one of my questions.

503

It is a kind of catering to.

504

Like Christians and like, uh, just

505

Bryan Enriquez: a hundred percent.

506

So I think we really struggle with that.

507

It's like, how do we,

how do we be authentic?

508

That was one of our big things.

509

We want to be authentic.

510

And we said, look, we are all Catholic,

so we can't pretend to be something

511

we're not and the experiences that we

had are rooted in the Catholic faith.

512

So we have to stick, stay true to that.

513

We want to be inclusive and we want to

welcome other people of, of different

514

Christian denominations and even

people who aren't Christian as well.

515

Now that's trickier because obviously

like the content is focused on Christ.

516

So.

517

If you're not, uh, if you don't follow

Christ, then it, you know, it's, it's a

518

little different, but I've had people,

you know, explain and tell me that

519

they, they, they're not Christians

and they still find it useful.

520

So, um, that's exciting to me.

521

Um, just the way that we've

structured the content, I think

522

resonates with a lot of people.

523

It's less on like preaching and it's

more on let's have an experience

524

together and we have some soothing

voices, amazing people to pray with.

525

And then just like that experience of

like, oh wow, I'm, I'm experiencing

526

something and I literally feel better.

527

And so I think that kind of like,

is not as scary for a lot of people.

528

Cause it's not like, you know, pray,

whatever four decades of the rosary go.

529

It's like, I don't, I don't know

how to, you know, it's worse.

530

Like just press play and listen and

just like, let it kind of wash over you.

531

I think that really resonates

with a lot of people.

532

Tim Winkler: Yeah, I think that's a really

interesting point because, you know, one

533

of the things that I think is always a

bit of a turnoff for somebody that, you

534

know, I kind of look at myself as a little

bit of a religious mutt, you know, I

535

grew up Catholic, you know, transitioned

into a non denominational Christian,

536

may or may not have been a cult.

537

I'm not sure it was one of those like

really intense non denominational

538

Christian churches, kind of got turned

off, lived in, uh, Bali, Indonesia,

539

uh, kind of got entrenched in a, in

a Hindu environment for two years.

540

Came back home, um, you know, started to

really try to explore what, what, what

541

else is out there, um, without losing

sight of what I'd experienced in the past.

542

And one of the things that always

kind of turned me off, I think, would

543

be when people were really preaching

and they're like, it's almost like

544

it's, it's a selling, you're really

trying to sell me like a car salesman

545

here on, on, on why, why you.

546

Um, I like when you say it's like, you

know, we're not here to preach to you, you

547

know, and make sure like, you know, you

know, that this is the way it's more of

548

like, let's have this experience together

and like reinforce, you know, whatever

549

it is that you're, you're pursuing,

like, we want to kind of like help you

550

with that versus, you know, this is the

way it is, you know, I think that's,

551

Bryan Enriquez: yeah.

552

And I think again, you know, we have

a really wide variety of content.

553

I think Mark Wahlberg's content is great

because his, his content is just like.

554

Let's, let's get after it.

555

Like the mentality is like,

let's conquer the day.

556

Like, let's seize the day.

557

Like that person really

resonates with a lot of people.

558

We have content that is like more on

the meditation side, which is like

559

experiencing something in silence

or like reflecting on something.

560

Um, but then if there's people,

so if you're listening to this and

561

you're like, I'm not religious,

like, I don't understand why these

562

people talking about religion.

563

It's like, look, I think the core

of what we're talking about is.

564

We wrestled with what is,

what is the meaning of life

565

and like, where's my purpose?

566

And I've noted and I've had, I

have friends who aren't religious.

567

I think the core of it and the message

that I think everybody can take

568

away from is what I, my experiences.

569

You have to search, you

have to wrestle with it.

570

I think some people kind of

like, they focus on other things.

571

They think about the career, about

whatever it is, their family.

572

And they never stop to think about

like, what is it that I truly believe?

573

Like what happens after I die?

574

Uh, you know, which

we're all going to die.

575

So it's, something's going to happen and

just kind of wrestling with it and being

576

like, what is it that I truly believe?

577

How do I want to live my life?

578

Like, I think that, so I, there's a CEO

of all state who gave a talk recently.

579

And, um, and he leads a company of

whatever, I mean, they probably have

580

like 50, 000 people, if not more.

581

And one of the most successful

things that he talked about, um,

582

that Tom was mentioning in his talk

was it's like half day retreat,

583

full day retreat that they do.

584

I think it's, it's a day and a half

and it's for the entire company.

585

And it's, um, about understanding

what motivates you in life.

586

And it's like, it's not like a faith

thing, but it's a values thing.

587

It's like, where do you get your energy?

588

What, what makes you passionate?

589

Where do you feel like you're most alive?

590

Where do you feel like you're most dead?

591

Like wrestling with that.

592

And he said, has been the single

biggest thing that's driven retention

593

and just, um, employee satisfaction.

594

And they look forward to it every year.

595

And again, it's like, there's people of

all faith backgrounds, but that wrestling

596

with like, what is it that I believe?

597

Like what, what gets me

out of bed every day?

598

Like, how can I find my passion

and my meaning is super important.

599

And I feel like if anything you

walk away with is, I would just

600

encourage you to spend a few

more minutes thinking about that.

601

You haven't been.

602

Tim Winkler: Yeah.

603

And, uh, you know, a lot of folks,

you know, maybe that doesn't hit

604

them until a certain stage in life.

605

Right.

606

So I just had, uh, our first, uh,

child, my wife and I, we had a daughter.

607

Yeah.

608

Thanks.

609

She just turned seven

months today actually.

610

And, um, You know, one of the things

that kind of sparked us to, to re engage

611

in our faith, right, was we, we want to

raise, uh, our daughter in a, you know,

612

some sort of a religious household, right?

613

You know, I think there's order to it and

it's, uh, a family bonding experience,

614

uh, surround yourself with a community.

615

And for us, you know, so it started with

light, like praying at, at night before

616

dinner, you know, and, um, you know,

taking those small things, but then,

617

you know, pushing yourself further, like

kind of like what you're alluding to is

618

really challenge yourself to think, you

know, uh, about some deep, deep shit.

619

There's going to be things

that are really going to.

620

Uh, come up and, you know, when, when

you have another person that, that you're

621

responsible for, um, it kind of forces you

to, you know, think forward, uh, versus

622

maybe, maybe you just get comfortable if

it's just you and just, yeah, whatever.

623

So, I think, um, you know, it's certainly,

it sounds like it's, it's catering

624

to, you know, younger, uh, is it, is

it catering to younger generations?

625

Would you say most, a

lot of your users are.

626

Younger, or what does the user base

627

Bryan Enriquez: look like?

628

It's super interesting.

629

So we don't as our onboarding,

we don't ask for age.

630

So the short answer is we don't know.

631

With 95 percent degree of accuracy,

the user base distribution, we've done

632

surveys and we've talked to our users.

633

And what's fascinating is the user

distribution, I would have thought is

634

like a 18 to 35 and then like much lower.

635

Because it's a, it's a tech

app, but it's not, um, it's

636

actually relatively distributed.

637

There is, uh, I would say a bump of like,

you know, 18 to 35 in terms of users,

638

but it's pretty smooth in terms of the

distribution, uh, across ages with some

639

of our most engaged users being over

65, which I would never have guessed.

640

Um, I think the intuition there is

everybody gets something out of it.

641

It's a little bit different.

642

So I think folks that are in that over

65, you know, they have more time.

643

They are sort of in the

end of life chapter.

644

So they're like, okay, he's

like next 30 years, my, or,

645

or whatever might be my last.

646

So I have to think through

like what happens next.

647

And so it kind of prompts them.

648

Um, I think the middle group is

kind of what you're talking about.

649

We've noticed that marriage having

children triggers like a desire

650

of like, what do I really believe?

651

Because I now have to, I

have to pass something on.

652

I either ask like, God's

not real or like God's real.

653

And it's this one or that one.

654

Like you have to, you

have to say something.

655

Um, yeah.

656

Or you can let them figure

it out on their own.

657

But like, how do you, how do you walk

with them in that journey of life?

658

I think it's something that everyone

can kind of wrestle with or needs to

659

wrestle with in that, in that stage.

660

And so I just wanted to add

something to the earlier comment.

661

Um, I remember I, I, so I went

to Yale for, um, for my, my MBA.

662

Um, so graduate 2021, um, and I'm

happy to talk about that experience.

663

I know some of your listeners might

be wondering like, okay, well,

664

I want to go to business school.

665

I'm not really sure.

666

Do I get a master's degree?

667

Do I get a business degree?

668

So definitely I wrestled with that,

but there was this one class and it was

669

kind of like, uh, an orientation class.

670

I thought that was fascinating.

671

And one of the talks.

672

Resonated with me because the

guys similar background to you,

673

his dad was a pastor, actually.

674

So he said, Hey, you

know, my dad was a pastor.

675

I didn't know what I believed and

I was kind of wrestling with it.

676

One thing he told me

that I'll never forget.

677

He said that because his dad was

a pastor, he was invited to a lot

678

of people's final moments, right?

679

It's like, Hey, this

person's about to pass.

680

And like, let's have the pastor

just come by and like be with you

681

so that you're not alone, pray

over you as you, as you pass away.

682

And he said, you know, the one

thing that he said is the most

683

common thing on someone's deathbed.

684

It's talking about the things that

they didn't do and they, and the

685

regret of like, I didn't do this thing.

686

I wanted to start that business.

687

I didn't do it.

688

I want to write that book.

689

I didn't do it.

690

I wanted to, you know, make

that trip and I didn't do it.

691

And so he's like, that really motivated

me because I'm like 1 and Jeff Bezos talks

692

about this, like how he makes decisions.

693

He likes to think of it, of it

like 40 years from now, looking

694

back kind of like the premortem,

like, what would I have regretted

695

if I did or didn't do this thing?

696

And he's like, that motivated

me to start a company.

697

He started a company and it failed.

698

And he was like, I was in my

pajamas and my mom's, uh, my,

699

my, my parents dinner table.

700

And uh, we failed, but you know, but

I don't have to regret I'm not trying.

701

Yeah.

702

So if you're listening and

you're like, I don't know.

703

It's like.

704

Yeah.

705

Wrestle with it.

706

I certainly don't think everybody's

called to be an entrepreneur.

707

I think it's something that's probably

one of the hardest things you can do.

708

Um, very risky.

709

But yeah, I mean, if you're, if you're

wrestling with it, just consider that,

710

um, you know, think about yourself

in the future and what motivates

711

you again, what makes you, what,

what drives passion in your life?

712

Is it creating something?

713

Is it trying something new and you

just haven't had the experience?

714

Certainly that was my case, right?

715

Like I hadn't had the

opportunity to build something.

716

I was in the government

and there's not in my life.

717

Part of the government, my, my department,

there wasn't really a space for that

718

to build something from scratch.

719

Um, certainly if you're, I don't know, if

you're in the Pentagon and like, you're in

720

some research division, you can probably

build something from scratch with a lot

721

of money, but I was working with lawyers.

722

It's like, uh, you know, that, that

experience of like building an app or

723

building something was just not possible.

724

So it's almost like I never had the

opportunity to know if I wanted or not.

725

And I just had, we just took

a leap of faith and thankfully

726

it's, it's worked out.

727

Um, we just closed our series

C, uh, but a few months ago.

728

So.

729

Yeah.

730

Tim Winkler: Yeah.

731

Yeah, man.

732

That's really cool.

733

Uh, really cool feedback.

734

I, I, I, I think about that as well.

735

And, you know, I read a lot of books

around, you know, that exact moment of

736

the folks that their biggest regret,

um, is, you know, wish I hadn't just.

737

Kept putting in those extra hours

at work, you know, when I could

738

have spent more time with my family,

uh, or something like that, right.

739

That's usually the most, a really common

one as well, which entrepreneurs, you're

740

going to put in some work, you know,

and it's not going to be, uh, that, that

741

smooth sailing, but the, the reality is

that you could have a, a bigger payout.

742

Uh, retirement could come a little

earlier if you're putting in the,

743

the, the sweat and the tears in those

earlier stages, but the regret piece, I

744

think is, is a, is a fascinating point.

745

Um, I'm gonna, uh, wrap up a couple more

questions here for we, we transitioned

746

to the five second scramble, but,

you know, just a couple of quick

747

hitters on, on how low, you know, I

guess how many downloads, you know,

748

rough estimate you guys, uh, have

749

Bryan Enriquez: at this point.

750

Yeah.

751

So the last time I checked, we,

we cracked 11 million globally.

752

Wow.

753

So that's wild.

754

It's very, you guys are,

755

Tim Winkler: you know, in hundreds of

countries I'd imagine folks are, are.

756

Bryan Enriquez: Yeah, so the way

it works is any country you can

757

download an app, um, you can use it.

758

So, I mean, there's, I think we have users

in like, Qatar and Saudi Arabia and like

759

all these other nations, even though we

don't have it in Arabic, for example.

760

Um, so we're, we're global in that

sense, but in terms of languages, we

761

have English, we have Spanish, we have

Brazilian Portuguese, um, we have Filipino

762

Tagalog, uh, we have Polish, we in Latin.

763

And then we're launching in

French, German, and Italian,

764

uh, in the next, uh, few months.

765

So,

766

Tim Winkler: wow.

767

And you've got some, some

pretty, you know, big, big

768

partnerships and collaborations.

769

You, you, you mentioned

Mark Wahlberg is one.

770

Um, you know, how do you go about that?

771

How do you snag, uh, Mark Wahlberg to, to,

to use the app and then, you know, engage

772

him to, to lead some of these sessions?

773

Bryan Enriquez: Yeah.

774

So it's, it's interesting.

775

We've had folks like, um.

776

Joe Montana, he was 1 of our 1st, um,

investors as an angel investor legend.

777

Um, who's who's great.

778

Yeah.

779

Um, and yeah, I mean,

it, it sort of depends.

780

So we have, um, the actor who

plays Jesus in the chosen.

781

It's a popular streaming series.

782

Uh, his name is Jonathan roomie.

783

It's becoming bigger and bigger.

784

Obviously, we have Mark Wahlberg and

we've had a few other people that.

785

Mario Lopez, um, and some, some

other folks that have been gracious

786

enough to give their time, um,

and energy to help our project.

787

And really, it's sort of like an all

of the above, like, some of them have

788

been, we've reached out through an

agent and then the agent connects us.

789

Some of it has been like, we,

we know somebody who goes to

790

their church and we're like, Hey.

791

Do you want to work for HAL or

do you want to work with HAL and

792

they're like, yeah, HAL is cool.

793

And so it's cool because it's,

it's, it, again, it appeals

794

to a wide range of people.

795

Cause we have clergy in the app.

796

So we have like cardinals and archbishops.

797

And we also have, again, like

Mark Wahlberg or Jonathan,

798

people who don't have any formal,

you know, role in the church.

799

And again, it's just, we're trying

to create something and it's like,

800

well, how do you be inclusive

and not watered on the message?

801

Well, we've landed on is

like, we want to be authentic.

802

So this is who we are.

803

So we're not going to shy

away from it, but we want to

804

be as welcoming as possible.

805

And just, I think the format of

the app is what enables that.

806

So that's why I think people want

to work with us is they're like, Oh,

807

okay, this is a little different.

808

Like the way that this happens,

the way that you experience a

809

session in hallow, uh, is resonating

with a much larger audience.

810

And again, some people think like,

Oh, it's the younger audience.

811

But again, we've had some of our

people or power users that are over 65.

812

I had a, I had a call.

813

There was a, there was a, uh, I guess

a girl who was, who just turned 18.

814

And then there was a woman

who was 81 on the same call.

815

And they both were like, I love how,

and I'm like, it just kind of struck me.

816

I was like, that is crazy.

817

That is wild, wide range or

both, both find something

818

valuable and it is, is kind of

819

Tim Winkler: unique.

820

So that's crazy.

821

That's, that's so cool to

see that diverse user base.

822

Um, and you just mentioned, yeah,

you guys just snagged a series

823

C recently, um, total funding.

824

Where are you sitting at right now?

825

Bryan Enriquez: Uh, we're at one Oh five.

826

Um, so we've closed 105 million funding,

um, through our seed, a, B and C, which is

827

Tim Winkler: awesome.

828

Some big names too, like Peter

Thiel's in there, uh, investor.

829

Yeah.

830

We just

831

Bryan Enriquez: closed

with a good water capital.

832

Um, Eric, yeah, this is fantastic.

833

Um, so yeah, and general catalyst has

been really good with us and a few others.

834

So.

835

And from a

836

Tim Winkler: headcount perspective,

you know, what's, you know, you're,

837

you're, you guys are scaling up.

838

What's the size of this operation?

839

How many employees are part of this thing?

840

Bryan Enriquez: Yeah.

841

So I think right now we're hovering

between 60 and 65, but we're also hiring.

842

And so it's kind of like influx.

843

Um, with a series C that was one of

our goals is to do a hiring push.

844

So, you know, right now between

contractors and employees, um, we're

845

probably just shy of a hundred,

um, with, you know, by the end

846

of the year, we'll probably have,

we'll be over a hundred for sure.

847

Um, with all the hiring that

we're doing, what, what areas are

848

Tim Winkler: you hiring in?

849

Oh, I mean, We got across the board, all

850

Bryan Enriquez: of us, all of the stuff.

851

Yeah.

852

But now we've been at

this for a few months.

853

So some of the roles have been closing.

854

So, um, we've been hiring everything from

growth marketing, um, for Latin America.

855

We've got, um, our content

writing position was some of

856

the most applied to position.

857

So that's like writing the actual

content that gets, um, into the app.

858

Um, we're hiring for people to help

our B2B sort of our partnerships

859

team to help scale that operation.

860

Um, we're building a team

to help, um, parishes.

861

So it's sort of like offering

hallow as a, like a course or an

862

experience that masters can bring

to their, like to the parish nurse.

863

Like, Hey, you know, do hallow as,

as a parish community, for example.

864

So it's like, yeah, I'm hiring

for some customer support people

865

on the customer support team.

866

Um, so yeah, it's just been kind of like

all over the board as we, as we grow.

867

Tim Winkler: Are you, are you

hiring up any, uh, like in

868

areas of tech, uh, engineering,

869

Bryan Enriquez: uh, product?

870

Yes.

871

Yes, we have.

872

Um, so we're, we're going to a new

model, um, of what we call them pods.

873

So it's going to be a pod focused on

community, a pod focused on retention,

874

and then a pod focused on sort of growth.

875

Um, and so we're hiring, yeah,

you know, new engineers for

876

those roles, Android and iOS.

877

Um, we're also hiring

designers, um, as well.

878

So, uh, one of the

things that makes hallow.

879

Uh, I think so successful

is the visual appeal of it.

880

Like when you open the app, it's just

the visually beautifully designed app.

881

Um, the illustrations really are,

I think, awesome and they help

882

sort of like lower the barrier.

883

It's like, Oh, like it's,

it's, it's welcoming.

884

It's like, Oh yeah, like I

want to spend time meditating

885

with this, uh, with this app.

886

So.

887

Wow.

888

Tim Winkler: Yeah.

889

It's really fascinating app.

890

Um, definitely recommend any, uh, any

of our listeners out there to, to, to

891

give it a download, tinker with it.

892

Uh, I'm sure it loves your feedback on it.

893

Um, and, uh, yeah, keep up the good work.

894

I love, um, I love people innovating

in a space that for one, like,

895

you know, it's important to me.

896

Um, you know, I was really thrilled, uh,

to, to see something like this popping up.

897

Have you seen anything

else out there like it?

898

Have you seen anybody kind of.

899

You know, mimicking what you're

doing right now or, uh, anything

900

else that's, that's similar.

901

Bryan Enriquez: Yeah.

902

It's weird because, um, on

the one hand, like, so our

903

mission is to help people pray.

904

And we've talked about this as

like, it's not really competitive.

905

Like if somebody else makes another

app that helps people pray, that's

906

like, I mean, more power to you.

907

Um, so I know that there's a few

apps that are, that have come out.

908

So Ascension is one of our partners.

909

They've been great with us.

910

Um, so father Mike Schmitz, um, he's like,

Why are they considered to be one of the

911

most, um, followed priests in the U S.

912

And he actually had a podcast

called, um, Bible in a year.

913

And when that launched, um, I believe

914

one podcast across all podcasts for

like, I think two weeks in Apple.

915

So like for, I guess across all their

podcasts, it was like this priest

916

reading the Bible was like the most

listened to thing, which is crazy.

917

So probably makes me great.

918

He's in our app as well.

919

So you can listen to Bible in your app.

920

They launched their own version, which

is more of like a Bible, like video

921

type thing where you can like, you

know, Um, if there's specific questions

922

about the faith, like, that's that's

an app that you can kind of go to.

923

So, um, that's been a new

thing that's come out recently.

924

I know.

925

Uh, there's another app

called the amen app.

926

Um, so they're tied to the

Augusta Institute, which is

927

like a larger institution in

the way that they run things.

928

They have offer courses, um, for people

who are interested in getting degrees.

929

Um, so, yeah, it's, it's

kind of interesting.

930

It's like, look, I mean, if you're going

to use an app that helps you pray, like, I

931

don't, I don't care who you use, we won't

obviously want hollow to be the best.

932

But if something else, some other group

offer something that we don't have, then.

933

I forgot to

934

Tim Winkler: ask, um, I guess

how is the, uh, is it monetized?

935

Do you all offer like a plus,

uh, membership, like less ads

936

or anything like that, like

how, how are you all monetizing?

937

Bryan Enriquez: Yeah.

938

So we, we don't sell any user

data, so there's no, and there's

939

no advertisement in the apps.

940

There's no ads.

941

Um, the way that we make money is

through an optional subscription.

942

Um, so it's 79 99, uh, a year

for the annual plan or 99 99

943

or the month to month plan.

944

Um, there's also a totally free

version, so you can download it.

945

And if you're like, I, I don't

want to pay for anything.

946

There's the free version that

has content that's free forever.

947

So some apps offer like just limited

free trial, but hollow has an, you

948

know, content that's free forever.

949

So you won't ever be kicked out of it.

950

We also offer a free trial and a

paid trial of the premium stuff.

951

So if you want to try it out

for a bit, there's options.

952

You can sort of design your trial.

953

You can toggle it to be free or paid.

954

Um, so yeah, we have options for everyone.

955

Sweet.

956

Tim Winkler: Yeah.

957

Love the flexibility on that.

958

Um, well, cool, man.

959

I, I've got a boatload of other questions,

but, uh, you know, in the essence of,

960

uh, keeping, uh, keeping your time,

uh, uh, top of mind, I'm going to.

961

Uh, stop there and I'll transition

us into this final segment

962

called the five second scramble.

963

Um, so this will be a little bit more

of a, it's a little fun, you know,

964

rapid fire Q and a some, some personal,

some business, uh, you're ready for it.

965

Go for it.

966

So explain how low to me as

if I were a five year old

967

Bryan Enriquez: hollow is a fun way

to talk to the big man upstairs.

968

Tim Winkler: Sold man, sold.

969

What problems are you solving?

970

I don't know where to start.

971

Bryan Enriquez: I don't know how to pray.

972

Um, I don't know if I'm doing it right.

973

Uh, I'm by myself and I want

to pray with somebody else.

974

Perfect.

975

Tim Winkler: What aspect of your

culture do you most fear losing with

976

Bryan Enriquez: growth?

977

I hate when people say family.

978

But, um, we have a, a culture

where like I was just with a team.

979

We were bowling last night and it's

easy to forget that they're coworkers.

980

It's like, oh, these are,

these are my friends.

981

Um, and as you grow, that's something that

we want to keep what you bowl, like 72,

982

like, I'm like, yeah, like I was trying

to get 200 and I just kept throwing it

983

Tim Winkler: into the gutter.

984

Yeah, usually you have like somebody

that's just like, yeah, clearly killing

985

it, maybe bringing their own shoes.

986

And then the folks that are just like, I

just want to get this thing down the lane.

987

Um, what trait do you value

most in your co founders

988

Bryan Enriquez: data

driven decision making?

989

Tim Winkler: Nice.

990

What type of technologist thrive

991

Bryan Enriquez: at HALO?

992

I'd say people who are hungry

to solve difficult problems.

993

Tim Winkler: What can folks be most

excited about with HALO closing

994

out 2023 and going into 2024?

995

Bryan Enriquez: HALO is going to be, can

be described as a single player game.

996

We're moving it to a multiplayer game.

997

So the biggest thing is how you

can interact with and walk with,

998

in a prayerful way, uh, other

users from around the world.

999

So really excited about how we're

going to be able to do that.

00:46:55,940 --> 00:46:56,280

What is

00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,130

Tim Winkler: a charity or corporate

philanthropy that's near and dear to you?

00:47:01,290 --> 00:47:03,040

Bryan Enriquez: Uh,

I'd say Cafe Charities.

00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,830

Um, they are really

active here in Chicago.

00:47:06,020 --> 00:47:07,619

Um, they do a lot with the homeless.

00:47:07,899 --> 00:47:10,729

Um, which, yeah, is a cause

that I really care about.

00:47:13,370 --> 00:47:13,900

Aside from

00:47:13,900 --> 00:47:16,029

Tim Winkler: Hello!, what's

the favorite app on your phone?

00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:19,270

I

00:47:19,270 --> 00:47:21,560

Bryan Enriquez: would, I would

have said tick tock, um, but I

00:47:21,570 --> 00:47:24,560

had to delete it because I was

just on it too much, too much.

00:47:25,380 --> 00:47:25,870

It's just,

00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:27,170

Tim Winkler: yeah, it's

just one of those things.

00:47:27,580 --> 00:47:29,500

Delete tick tock and add threads.

00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:29,800

Right.

00:47:29,830 --> 00:47:31,830

Is that how it works?

00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:32,570

Something like that.

00:47:32,610 --> 00:47:36,629

Bryan Enriquez: Um, yeah, I have now

been using, uh, Instagram reels and,

00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:39,940

and, and YouTube shorts, but yeah,

I believe it or not YouTube music.

00:47:40,445 --> 00:47:40,885

Okay.

00:47:40,905 --> 00:47:42,415

So it's a controversial topic.

00:47:42,425 --> 00:47:43,405

People make fun of me for it.

00:47:43,455 --> 00:47:44,755

Um, I love YouTube music.

00:47:44,825 --> 00:47:47,245

Uh, I'm probably one of their, it

was like, well, you're probably one

00:47:47,245 --> 00:47:48,375

of their only premium subscribers.

00:47:48,905 --> 00:47:49,825

I think they have more than just a few.

00:47:49,905 --> 00:47:51,615

Um, but that's my favorite app.

00:47:51,645 --> 00:47:53,124

My go to music app is YouTube.

00:47:53,335 --> 00:47:53,565

So

00:47:53,594 --> 00:47:55,605

Tim Winkler: like with the

music videos too, is that,

00:47:56,315 --> 00:48:00,815

Bryan Enriquez: so for me, it's just,

I grew up like creating you, like when

00:48:00,815 --> 00:48:05,867

YouTube started, uh, I put my songs

and music in like YouTube playlists.

00:48:05,867 --> 00:48:06,029

Yeah.

00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,880

And so then it was easy for me to

just port those into YouTube music.

00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,900

So I still have my original playlists

from like whenever I go, whereas

00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:15,849

Spotify or like whatever, Pandora,

you have to create your new ones.

00:48:15,850 --> 00:48:16,990

And I said, I don't want

to create my new ones.

00:48:17,180 --> 00:48:19,880

Tim Winkler: So that's

why, yeah, I gotcha.

00:48:20,610 --> 00:48:22,959

What's the worst fashion trend

that you've ever followed?

00:48:26,210 --> 00:48:26,879

Bryan Enriquez: Oh man.

00:48:28,330 --> 00:48:30,660

I, I don't know if you

remember the brand affliction.

00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:32,090

Yeah.

00:48:32,170 --> 00:48:34,960

It's like a Criss Angel style clothing.

00:48:35,755 --> 00:48:39,595

I would, I was obsessed with it

for a few years and like, looking

00:48:39,605 --> 00:48:40,795

back, I'm like, why did I wear that?

00:48:40,805 --> 00:48:44,745

That's just totally not

my personality for me.

00:48:44,745 --> 00:48:47,155

I don't know if it was a trend, but

I noticed, you know, I, I certainly

00:48:47,155 --> 00:48:50,195

wasn't the only one wearing it and, um,

maybe some people could pull it off.

00:48:50,375 --> 00:48:53,975

I, I, I for sure couldn't pull it off

and no one, no one was, had the mercy

00:48:53,975 --> 00:48:56,885

to tell me they were just like, no,

let's just let him, you know, seep

00:48:56,885 --> 00:48:58,175

in until he realizes his mistake,

00:48:59,915 --> 00:49:00,615

Tim Winkler: good stuff.

00:49:00,895 --> 00:49:03,125

Um, what do you love most about yourself?

00:49:04,304 --> 00:49:04,664

Bryan Enriquez: Hmm.

00:49:06,615 --> 00:49:12,065

Um, I would say that this

is, I've been told this.

00:49:12,155 --> 00:49:16,075

So I feel like I can say this zest

for life, contagious zest for life.

00:49:16,075 --> 00:49:20,085

Like I like to share my excitement

and passion with other people

00:49:20,175 --> 00:49:21,175

and it gets them motivated.

00:49:21,185 --> 00:49:23,075

And I think that's what I

like about myself the most.

00:49:23,935 --> 00:49:25,255

Tim Winkler: I love that zest for life.

00:49:25,344 --> 00:49:26,544

It's a good, it's a good slogan.

00:49:26,624 --> 00:49:27,355

Good life slogan.

00:49:28,445 --> 00:49:29,195

Um, all right.

00:49:29,195 --> 00:49:29,885

A couple more here.

00:49:29,885 --> 00:49:32,645

So, um, if you could have any

superpower, what would it be?

00:49:33,815 --> 00:49:34,345

Bryan Enriquez: Oh, man,

00:49:39,605 --> 00:49:42,975

I would, this is one of the iceberg

questions that we ask and I go back

00:49:42,975 --> 00:49:47,394

and forth on just like generically

flying is just like, it's just so cool.

00:49:47,525 --> 00:49:49,005

You know, just people that

fly from different places.

00:49:49,455 --> 00:49:50,785

But people are like,

well, you can already fly.

00:49:50,795 --> 00:49:51,465

You can just get on a plane.

00:49:51,465 --> 00:49:55,165

I'm like, yeah, but like, you

can't like fly and whatever.

00:49:55,215 --> 00:49:58,635

And so I've, I've, I've landed on

flying because I picked up skiing.

00:49:59,095 --> 00:50:02,874

So it'd be of a mountain and

then like fly back and then do

00:50:02,874 --> 00:50:04,335

it again, you know, for sure.

00:50:04,355 --> 00:50:05,814

So I think that would be kind of sick.

00:50:06,394 --> 00:50:06,824

Yeah, yeah,

00:50:06,824 --> 00:50:07,204

Tim Winkler: yeah.

00:50:07,365 --> 00:50:07,635

Yeah.

00:50:07,775 --> 00:50:09,420

The folks that just said,

just get on a plane.

00:50:09,420 --> 00:50:11,795

It's like, all right, you're, you're

not playing by the rules here.

00:50:11,795 --> 00:50:13,185

We're talking about soups and hours.

00:50:13,235 --> 00:50:14,555

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.

00:50:15,335 --> 00:50:19,985

Um, If you have one day left to

live, would you spend it with

00:50:19,995 --> 00:50:22,245

Morgan Freeman or Denzel Washington?

00:50:22,295 --> 00:50:23,405

Denzel Washington, 100%.

00:50:24,785 --> 00:50:27,145

Bryan Enriquez: Yeah, Denzel, if you're

listening, we would love to have you

00:50:27,145 --> 00:50:30,154

in the Halo app and Morgan too, but

I mean, Morgan has a great voice.

00:50:30,625 --> 00:50:32,665

Tim Winkler: I mean, Morgan's

voice, they're both great boys,

00:50:32,665 --> 00:50:35,805

but Morgan's voice is like,

talk about mellowing me out.

00:50:35,874 --> 00:50:36,444

That's true.

00:50:36,534 --> 00:50:37,115

Bryan Enriquez: That's true.

00:50:37,275 --> 00:50:41,685

Um, yeah, I just feel like, like

Morgan is one of those guys that like,

00:50:42,220 --> 00:50:43,640

You see, you're like, I respect you.

00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:44,910

You know, like I see what you're doing.

00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,190

Then I feel like it could be

like, like an uncle to me.

00:50:47,210 --> 00:50:47,800

You know what I'm saying?

00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:48,980

Like, like, yeah, friends

00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:54,059

Tim Winkler: kind of just grab you under

his arm and going out hard with them.

00:50:54,830 --> 00:50:55,109

All right.

00:50:55,140 --> 00:50:55,649

Last one.

00:50:55,649 --> 00:50:57,009

Favorite Disney character.

00:51:01,530 --> 00:51:02,310

Bryan Enriquez: This

is going to sound bad.

00:51:02,599 --> 00:51:04,300

Um, for the longest time was Aladdin.

00:51:04,775 --> 00:51:06,895

Because he was brown and I

was like, Oh, he's brown.

00:51:06,895 --> 00:51:07,265

Like me.

00:51:10,685 --> 00:51:11,775

Tim Winkler: Well, that is my favorite.

00:51:12,045 --> 00:51:12,765

Oh, there you go.

00:51:12,945 --> 00:51:13,235

Yeah.

00:51:13,605 --> 00:51:14,345

It wasn't the Brown.

00:51:14,375 --> 00:51:15,165

It wasn't the Brown.

00:51:15,165 --> 00:51:17,064

It was just, I think

the magic carpet, man.

00:51:17,065 --> 00:51:18,595

You went back to the flying thing.

00:51:18,685 --> 00:51:19,355

Bryan Enriquez: Yeah.

00:51:19,435 --> 00:51:19,775

Yeah.

00:51:19,805 --> 00:51:20,685

No, the whole thing.

00:51:20,785 --> 00:51:23,755

I mean, you know, Jasmine's beautiful

and like, you know, The whole, anyway,

00:51:23,795 --> 00:51:24,985

yeah, Magic Carpet was a good joke, so,

00:51:26,225 --> 00:51:26,245

Tim Winkler: yeah.

00:51:26,535 --> 00:51:27,615

Well, uh, well played.

00:51:27,685 --> 00:51:29,075

Um, awesome, man.

00:51:29,075 --> 00:51:31,165

Well, thanks so much for

spending time with us, Brian.

00:51:31,165 --> 00:51:33,615

Uh, excited for the future, what

you guys are building at Halo.

00:51:33,615 --> 00:51:37,405

And, um, I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure,

you know, with that team of, of

00:51:37,605 --> 00:51:40,085

an all star kind of cast, you're,

you're going to be super successful.

00:51:40,085 --> 00:51:41,095

So we're rooting for you guys.

00:51:41,135 --> 00:51:42,945

And thanks for hanging

out with us on the pod.

00:51:43,435 --> 00:51:44,235

Bryan Enriquez: Yeah, this was super fun.

00:51:44,235 --> 00:51:44,785

Thanks for having me.