Pacific Heights is has just released The Waters Between. Direct from Hawke's Bay, here is former Shapeshifter Devin Abrams with the story behind the new album.

Marty Duda spoke to Devin just days before The Waters Between is due for release. This is the fourth Pacific Heights album and the first in four years. As always, Devin has surrounded himself with a cast of very talented characters including Louis Baker, Jack Page and Lepani. Watch, listen and learn how it all came together.