Whispers of the Past sets the stage for a series that reframes history through voices that have long been in the shadows. We begin our captivating journey into the early history of St. Eustatius, revealing how the island’s unique cultural identity was shaped by natural forces and the lives of women too often omitted from traditional narratives.
Experts discuss how St. Eustatius' volcanic landscape and strategic location fostered a rich tapestry of economic exchange, linguistic diversity, and cultural resilience. By exploring the significance of history from a woman’s perspective and examining the enduring impacts of colonial shifts, this episode unveils the mysteries behind the island’s evolving names and its complex colonial legacy.
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>> Dr. Anna Hanslin: If you look at women's history in the Caribbean, it
Speaker:forces you outside of that very narrow
Speaker:Eurocentric box of looking at history as defined
Speaker:by wars and empires and political changes
Speaker:that are dominated by white men.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): Welcome to Whispers of the Past,
Speaker:a podcast that takes you on a journey through
Speaker:history told through the voices often left
Speaker:in the dark. Here we stand at the crossroad
Speaker:of historical storytelling and women's
Speaker:history, shedding a light on
Speaker:synthesias from a perspective
Speaker:rarely explored. Our goal is to
Speaker:approach history through a different kind of lens.
Speaker:We'll use the concept of a canon.
Speaker:A canon is a structured, chronological
Speaker:walk through history that lets us
Speaker:trace each step in order it happened,
Speaker:revealing how one event flows into the
Speaker:next. With this approach, we
Speaker:begin by laying the groundwork of
Speaker:introducing Stacia's location,
Speaker:its early history, and its linguistic
Speaker:roots. From here, we start with
Speaker:indigenous history and move forward each
Speaker:episode into Ostatia's rich
Speaker:history to the present day.
Speaker:Due to the gaps in historical records,
Speaker:we also embrace a concept called
Speaker:braiding knowledge, combining
Speaker:insight from regional sources and
Speaker:lived experiences. You will hear from
Speaker:historians, heritage experts,
Speaker:regional scholars, and local residents,
Speaker:each helping us weave together Stacia's
Speaker:story as we walk the timeline
Speaker:together. And at the heart of
Speaker:this podcast is the reason for our name, Whispers
Speaker:of the Past. Women's voices were often
Speaker:silenced and were seldom recorded in
Speaker:history. And here we listen to those
Speaker:whispers and bring them to life, the stories
Speaker:that history has almost forgotten to
Speaker:mention. Together, let's
Speaker:uncover these voices to
Speaker:start our journey. We delve into why it's so important
Speaker:to tell history from a women's perspective.
Speaker:>> Ms. Sutekau: The world doesn't exist without women,
Speaker:and it's about time that the
Speaker:world understood
Speaker:that we are as powerful
Speaker:and strong, as intelligent,
Speaker:and much more
Speaker:proactive, particularly when it
Speaker:comes to the education of our children,
Speaker:the welfares of our family, and the
Speaker:welfare of our community. Those
Speaker:are things women have always stood
Speaker:for and stood up for.
Speaker:A woman should have the
Speaker:exact same opportunities as a
Speaker:man, and she should be given
Speaker:the same rights and privileges.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): Ms. Sutekau, a local resident of St.
Speaker:Eustatias and one of the founders of the island's
Speaker:center of Archaeological Research,
Speaker:reminds us of the essential strength and
Speaker:role women have played in shaping society.
Speaker:Reflecting on women's contribution in the past
Speaker:does more than show us where we've been.
Speaker:It also illuminates the path ahead.
Speaker:Historian Dr. Anna Hanslin will take
Speaker:us deeper into this idea, explaining
Speaker:how a greater understanding of women's role
Speaker:throughout history helps us shift our perspective
Speaker:into the present.
Speaker:>> Dr. Anna Hanslin: I think that, uh, a
Speaker:greater contemporary understanding of the richness
Speaker:of women's roles in the past allows
Speaker:us to really appreciate and
Speaker:justify a richness of women's roles in the
Speaker:present. I think that one of the key
Speaker:reasons we need to look at women in the past
Speaker:is to empower women in the present and the
Speaker:future. Because if we think of the past, for
Speaker:example, as a place where
Speaker:women were never politically important,
Speaker:it makes it a lot easier for a
Speaker:patriarchal society to argue that they should continue
Speaker:to remain unimportant. You can pick pretty
Speaker:much any area of human
Speaker:life and think about the fact that women
Speaker:traditionally have done it all. They've been doctors, they've
Speaker:been rulers, they've been diplomats, they've
Speaker:been merchants, they've been
Speaker:makers of beautiful and utilitarian things.
Speaker:And to think that they have only
Speaker:traditionally been wives and mothers
Speaker:is something that, I think, um, has led to a
Speaker:lot of assumptions about what women
Speaker:can and should do. That has
Speaker:led to some, a distinct lack of
Speaker:empowerment and also to recognize the fact
Speaker:that being a wife and a mother is also a
Speaker:job. Right. And that it's something that is labor, and that
Speaker:for far too often in Western capitalist
Speaker:society, it's not valued because it's not commodified in the
Speaker:same way that other labor is.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): Dr. Anna Hanslin points out that
Speaker:assumptions about women's roles have
Speaker:long shaped what we think women can or should
Speaker:do today. This also speaks to the
Speaker:importance of telling a, uh, full history.
Speaker:Dr. Anna Hansling continues, sharing how
Speaker:women's histories often bring new, overlooked
Speaker:layers to our understanding of the
Speaker:Caribbean.
Speaker:>> Dr. Anna Hanslin: That history begins with European contact
Speaker:and settlement in the Caribbean. We know that's
Speaker:false and does, uh, severe injustice to
Speaker:the many indigenous people who lived in the
Speaker:Caribbean before Europeans made contact
Speaker:and then settled there. So I
Speaker:think it's parallel to what happens with
Speaker:women's history in general. If you look at women's history in
Speaker:the Caribbean, it forces you
Speaker:outside of that very narrow Eurocentric box
Speaker:of looking at history as defined by wars, empires,
Speaker:and political changes that are dominated by white
Speaker:men. Focusing on that type of history
Speaker:which glorifies the
Speaker:European exploration and what
Speaker:we for a long time erroneously called discovery of the
Speaker:Caribbean drives that narrative. That history
Speaker:is only important if it deals with things like
Speaker:conquest, economic systems
Speaker:and political settlement
Speaker:patterns and wars between nations and
Speaker:empires. I think that is the type of history that
Speaker:dominated a Eurocentric viewpoint of the
Speaker:Caribbean for a very long time. And if you
Speaker:put women's history into that picture,
Speaker:it reminds you, first of all, that there is
Speaker:a history that is outside of the
Speaker:existence of empires deciding that they want
Speaker:to nominally say this island now belongs to another empire
Speaker:rather than the previous one, et cetera. And
Speaker:St. Eustatius obviously is in many ways
Speaker:one of the best examples in the Caribbean of that, since it changed
Speaker:hands among empires so many times. And I think
Speaker:also it's a good reminder that there is
Speaker:a really crucial human
Speaker:history of
Speaker:indigenous and enslaved people whose
Speaker:lives are not defined so much by big
Speaker:imperial structural changes like war and
Speaker:transfer of deeds, et cetera, but defined by
Speaker:things like raising children and
Speaker:caring for people. So histories of medicine, histories of
Speaker:family, cultural history, you can learn
Speaker:a lot about people in their past by looking at what they
Speaker:choose to eat over time and how that
Speaker:changes and how it stays the same. There is an
Speaker:emotional valence to something like food history. Right. A
Speaker:lot of people will have a very emotional response
Speaker:to a food that they associate with their childhood or a
Speaker:very emotional response to a, uh, food that reminds
Speaker:them of their cultural heritage. And I think
Speaker:that's something people don't usually have quite
Speaker:the same emotional reaction to learning about a battle that took place on an
Speaker:island they'd never been to. Right. So I think that
Speaker:is partly true. I also think, though, that
Speaker:thinking about women's history in the
Speaker:context of the larger history of the Caribbean, for
Speaker:example, reminds us that you can't
Speaker:separate women from things that have traditionally
Speaker:been told in a male dominated way, like the
Speaker:history of commerce and capitalism and histories of war and
Speaker:empire, because without women,
Speaker:you don't have successful commerce. Women
Speaker:are making a lot of the things that men are also making.
Speaker:They're certainly buying. And that's just
Speaker:one example of how it is
Speaker:again, even within these, what have traditionally been dominated
Speaker:by male centric histories. If you look a little deeper
Speaker:and think about it, you'll understand that women are integral to
Speaker:those histories too. They just haven't been folded into it
Speaker:traditionally. And so I think again,
Speaker:uncovering and appreciating the richness of women's
Speaker:historical roles in the past really allows us
Speaker:to think, what is the limit for
Speaker:women? There's no limit for women besides what patriarchal
Speaker:systems choose to put on them.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): Dr. Anna Hanslin reveals how deeply
Speaker:women's histories can reshape our understanding
Speaker:of the Caribbean, reminding us to consider
Speaker:perspectives often left out of the mainstream
Speaker:narratives. The broader approach
Speaker:allows us to connect with the personal, cultural
Speaker:and everyday lives of those who shape the
Speaker:region. With the same lens,
Speaker:we turn to the origin of synthustatia's name,
Speaker:a name that carries centuries of layered
Speaker:history. Historian and
Speaker:Syntustacea's Heritage Inspector Mr.
Speaker:Richardson will guide us through the mystery
Speaker:surrounding the island's evolving identity,
Speaker:from Columbus
Speaker:misinterpretation to the name that
Speaker:has defined Statia for centuries.
Speaker:>> Mr. Richardson: It's very interesting because the island wasn't originally
Speaker:named Centustatius by Christopher Columbus,
Speaker:um, when he was actually sailing through
Speaker:the Caribbean in his so called Age
Speaker:of Rediscovery. Let me just call it
Speaker:that rediscovery, because there are already people living
Speaker:here. One of the interesting things is in
Speaker:1493, I think it was his third voyage
Speaker:actually, he sailed by St. Eustatius
Speaker:and he named the island Santa Maria
Speaker:de la Nive, which is English
Speaker:for Saint Mary of the Snow.
Speaker:Where. Why would he name it that? But that's what he
Speaker:called the island, St. Mary of the Snow. It's quite
Speaker:interesting because I have looked through many records
Speaker:in different countries, especially the ones from
Speaker:Columbus in his journal. I think it's a huge
Speaker:mystery because why would he name the Island
Speaker:St. Mary of the Snow? But
Speaker:then it goes back to his journals and that
Speaker:while traveling he thought the island was covered
Speaker:in snow. He thought the quail was
Speaker:covered in snow because it was all white according to
Speaker:his description, not in clouds, but the top of the mountain was
Speaker:white. That made me think of
Speaker:transforming into today. If I'm on a
Speaker:ship in 1493, never seeing a volcano with
Speaker:ash before, could he have mistaken
Speaker:volcanic ash on the quill at that
Speaker:time for an eruption that happened maybe a
Speaker:few centuries earlier, a thousand years earlier? And when you look
Speaker:at all the layers of soil, especially at the airport area,
Speaker:because I'm not an archaeologist, I'm, um, an historian, it makes me
Speaker:wonder, could those two things, you know, have coincided
Speaker:with each other? And then fast
Speaker:forward in around
Speaker:1523, Francis Drake, who
Speaker:starts using Stacia, he picks up from
Speaker:a French missionary, we found out that the island's indigenous
Speaker:name was Aloi. And then you're
Speaker:going down the line, the island is still being referred to
Speaker:as Statia or
Speaker:Estacia, still no saint in front
Speaker:of it. And the island, the name that Columbus gave the
Speaker:island, eventually ended up going to Nevis.
Speaker:So that's where Nevis Nive got its name from. And
Speaker:then we're stuck with Thasia or East Asia
Speaker:for a very long time and or Aloi
Speaker:on many old Spanish maps that you see in Spain
Speaker:or in Columbus's old ship logs of his
Speaker:journey, his journals. But anyway, after the
Speaker:British or the English at the time. Then it
Speaker:disappears and then it reappears as Santa
Speaker:Anastasia again. Where did that one
Speaker:come from? It's not labeled. And then Santa Anastasia
Speaker:is dropped. And then there's St. Eustatius.
Speaker:And what's interesting about our name is that most
Speaker:Caribbean islands, even like St. Martin, has St. Martin's
Speaker:Day on November 11, which is actually the day of the
Speaker:saint. Most Caribbean islands, like St. Lucia, et
Speaker:cetera, in the past, their national feast day at the height of
Speaker:colonialism was linked to the day of their saints.
Speaker:But St. Eustatius was never linked to any of those
Speaker:days because I think St. Eustatius Day is the 24th
Speaker:of September or the 25th of
Speaker:September, and our national day is in November. So you see that
Speaker:the name was just, I don't know, attached to the island, but
Speaker:then we started being known as, uh, St. Eustatia
Speaker:Stacia, right up to now. But I tend to
Speaker:think that the name Statia is actually
Speaker:interesting because we don't quite know
Speaker:where it came from because it doesn't come out
Speaker:of the word Saint Eustachians. It was used before.
Speaker:So that makes our name quite unique. In the Caribbean, we m
Speaker:were named after saints, so Santa Maria, St.
Speaker:Mary of the Snow, that was Columbus's first name. Santa
Speaker:Anastasia, Saint Eustatius. We were
Speaker:named after saints. And like I
Speaker:said, Columbus's journey to the
Speaker:Caribbean, on the day that he was naming the
Speaker:islands, like the 6th of January, he was in the area of
Speaker:Trinidad, so that's why he became La Trinidad. He was
Speaker:really naming places on the feast day of many
Speaker:Catholic festivals in Spain when he was
Speaker:traveling. But on the day when he
Speaker:comes by Saint Eustatius, it's also not Saint
Speaker:Eustatius feast day. So it's a whole
Speaker:mystery of who really gave us their Saint
Speaker:Eustatius name. And. But eventually it stuck.
Speaker:And it's quite unique because it's quite long.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): From the layers of history embedded in
Speaker:Cintastatia's name, we turn now to the
Speaker:island's physical presence, its
Speaker:geography and location within the
Speaker:Caribbean. To help us understand
Speaker:how Synthastacia's unique landscape has
Speaker:shaped its history, we welcome Dr.
Speaker:Stelton, an archaeologist who has
Speaker:worked extensively on Stacia.
Speaker:>> Dr. Stelton: Stacia is basically located, um, right in the middle
Speaker:of a cluster of islands in the Lesser
Speaker:Antilian, uh, the arc of Lesser Antilian islands, basically
Speaker:in the northeastern Caribbean. It's a very interesting
Speaker:location because it is very close to a
Speaker:lot of other islands. Right. Whereas stone straw, away from
Speaker:Ceiba from St. Martin, from Anguilla,
Speaker:from Saint Barts, from St. Kitts and Nevis, and even Antigua
Speaker:is not that far.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): You know, being part
Speaker:of this close knit cluster of islands,
Speaker:Cus occupies a prime
Speaker:location for both cultural and
Speaker:economic exchange. Its
Speaker:proximity to these neighboring islands has long
Speaker:influenced its identity, impacting
Speaker:everything from trade routes to cultural connections
Speaker:over the centuries.
Speaker:>> Dr. Stelton: In the 18th century, it became such an important
Speaker:trading hub. In the 1970s and 1980s,
Speaker:a large oil transshipment facility was set up
Speaker:there. And both of those reasons are very similar
Speaker:because St. Eustace is located at what is called
Speaker:a point of minimal deviation. And that means
Speaker:that it is very close to the location
Speaker:where a lot of shipping routes intersect. What that means
Speaker:is that if you, um, are doing business on St. Eustacia,
Speaker:you're very easily accessible from established shipping
Speaker:routes.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): This strategic location was key not
Speaker:only during the 18th century when Stacia became
Speaker:a bustling trading hub, but also in the
Speaker:20th century because of its deep water
Speaker:ports, making it an ideal location for
Speaker:oil transshipment facility.
Speaker:One of Stacia's unique features is its
Speaker:diverse landscape. Stacia has
Speaker:three distinct regions.
Speaker:We have the towering Quill, the volcano
Speaker:which dominates the southern skyline,
Speaker:the rugged northern hills, and then the
Speaker:relatively flat plains that lies in
Speaker:between. This very terrain
Speaker:has a profound influence how the island's
Speaker:history and settlement have evolved over time,
Speaker:shaping both its natural beauty
Speaker:and its story. But how
Speaker:did the unique landscape come to be? And
Speaker:what role did the volcanic activity play in
Speaker:forming the island's distinct regions?
Speaker:>> Dr. Stelton: Quite a bit of geological and volcanological research
Speaker:has been done on Stacia, especially by
Speaker:Rubel and Smith. Back in the early 2000s, they figured
Speaker:out that Statia originally
Speaker:consisted of the northern hills. That's an
Speaker:extinct volcanic cluster that formed
Speaker:probably between 1 and 2 million years ago. It is still
Speaker:relatively young, geologically speaking. That was the original
Speaker:Statia. There was nothing else around it. It was just
Speaker:that. Now, what happened sometime between 40
Speaker:and 50,000 years ago, according to volcanologists, is that
Speaker:the quills started forming. That starts forming as a submarine
Speaker:volcano. That submarine volcano grows and keeps growing. It breaks
Speaker:the surface and it forms a separate island.
Speaker:So there was a period of time, several tens of thousands of years
Speaker:ago when there was two Statias.
Speaker:There was one in the north and one in the south. That was to become the Quill, and
Speaker:then eventually the Quill. Um, after several periods
Speaker:of volcanic activity, it grew into what it
Speaker:is now. And at some point it connected, um, the
Speaker:northern and the southern and, uh, became one. For such
Speaker:a small island, it has a few very distinct
Speaker:regions. You go up into the Quill and, um,
Speaker:you hike inside the crater, and it's a completely different world. I really
Speaker:like that, that you have these places. Even though it's such a small island
Speaker:and you're always around people, there's ways to
Speaker:escape it.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): The unique formation of Sinta Statius tells us a
Speaker:story both above and below the surface.
Speaker:Initially, Stacia was a single landmass.
Speaker:But tens of thousands of years ago, a new
Speaker:volcanic event began shaping the southern part of
Speaker:the island. The Quill,
Speaker:our volcano, emerged from the sea as a
Speaker:separate island, eventually connecting the
Speaker:northern hills to create Stacia as we know it
Speaker:today. Together,
Speaker:these distinct regions offer incredible
Speaker:diversity. Beneath the waves,
Speaker:Sintustasia has its own dramatic
Speaker:landscape. Sitting on a shallow submarine
Speaker:bank shared with Tsunkitts and Nevis,
Speaker:the water around the island ranges from only
Speaker:40 to 60 meters deep. But
Speaker:venturing further out, and the seafloor drops
Speaker:off sharply. The
Speaker:underwater topography mirrors the island's
Speaker:striking surface feature,
Speaker:especially around the Quill, where the terrain rises
Speaker:up from the depths, creating a dramatic
Speaker:spectacle both above and below.
Speaker:But it's not only the island's physical features
Speaker:that have evolved over time. Its history of
Speaker:changing hands between colonial powers has left
Speaker:a unique mark on Stacia's identity,
Speaker:even down to the names of the mountains,
Speaker:bays and landmarks. Dr.
Speaker:Stelton will explain to us how these
Speaker:shifting names tell a story of their own,
Speaker:reflecting the island's composite, complex colonial
Speaker:past and its blend of languages and
Speaker:culture.
Speaker:>> Dr. Stelton: This is also an interesting kind of thing about
Speaker:Stacia's history, how certain place names have
Speaker:been corrupted over the years. So the island
Speaker:changed hands 22 times in about 180 years
Speaker:between the Dutch, British and French throughout the colonial
Speaker:period. So what happens is that initially the
Speaker:Dutch, they name certain geographical features, such
Speaker:as bays, mountains and roads
Speaker:even, and things like that. And the French come in and they give their own
Speaker:spin on that. Uh, yeah, and then the British come in and they do
Speaker:the same thing, and then the Dutch come in. So all of these names are
Speaker:a very interesting mix. So the Dutch, they
Speaker:initially named the Quill, which they called the
Speaker:Vilberg, the Fire Mountain. That was the kind of the term in the
Speaker:17th century for a volcano. They initially called it the
Speaker:Kyle. So the crater was called the Kyle, which means the
Speaker:pit, right, the pit of the mountain. And when the British
Speaker:at some point took over, they thought, oh, Kyle, oh, uh, that's a Quill.
Speaker:Right. So they just corrupted that into Quill.
Speaker:Basically the way that they could pronounce it, you see
Speaker:on some old maps, you'll see the name Kyle. And then again it
Speaker:changes a few years later to Quill. And that's the name that has.
Speaker:Yeah, that has stuck. There's numerous examples like that. For
Speaker:example, the bay where the oil terminal is located. Where you have
Speaker:the long jetty going out. That used to be Tomoelen
Speaker:Dijk. That was the Dutch name. And the British, they call it Tumbledown
Speaker:Dick. I don't know which one is first, actually. They sound very
Speaker:alike. So one must have been derived from the other, I would
Speaker:say.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): As synthastaceas has changed hands and names
Speaker:over centuries. The landscape itself was also
Speaker:transforming, Shaped by both natural
Speaker:forces and human impact. From the
Speaker:island's lush tropical forests. To the limited
Speaker:freshwater resources, Stacia
Speaker:presented a unique set of challenges for those
Speaker:who settled here. Dr. Stelton
Speaker:explains how these environmental factors
Speaker:not only influenced daily life, but also
Speaker:dictated the way in which people adapted to the
Speaker:land.
Speaker:>> Dr. Stelton: So if you, um,
Speaker:would be sailing by St. Eustatia five,
Speaker:600 years ago, it would be a very
Speaker:different island from what it is now. And from what it was
Speaker:maybe 200 years after.
Speaker:Um, because the island initially was
Speaker:probably covered in a very thick tropical
Speaker:forest. And that has been almost completely cut
Speaker:away. Mainly in the early period of
Speaker:colonization. Just to make room for sugarcane and other
Speaker:cash crops. Humans have had a significant impact
Speaker:on the vegetation. There is still a little bit of native
Speaker:vegetation that is. That is preserved, especially
Speaker:on the crater rim. But I guess terrain impacted the
Speaker:humans a lot more. The water situation on Stacia is
Speaker:very interesting. There's a lot of islands around there
Speaker:that have fresh water sources, such as
Speaker:sinkheads. Now, in Stacia, that is not the case. Yes, there
Speaker:are many wells around the island, especially along the
Speaker:coast, which produce brackish water. The main way that
Speaker:people got water is collecting rainwater in cistern.
Speaker:And so that has had a significant impact on the island as well. For
Speaker:example, think about ships back in the day were coming to Stacia
Speaker:to trade in those historic ship logs. That a lot of
Speaker:these ships, they would be getting their water from neighboring St. Kitts, actually,
Speaker:because there was such an abundance of water there while on
Speaker:Stacia. Even though there are plenty of large
Speaker:cisterns, especially in Lower Town as well, that were being
Speaker:constructed. I think 14 or 15 known
Speaker:historic cisterns that were in Lowertown. Um,
Speaker:so obviously they would be supplying not just the island,
Speaker:but most Likely also some of the ships in port to some
Speaker:extent. But the fact that these ships go to a neighboring island
Speaker:to get water shows that there's probably not enough.
Speaker:It was never an easy island to settle, I think even though people made
Speaker:it work.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): The environmental challenges of
Speaker:synthestaceas ranged from deforestation
Speaker:to limited water supplies. This really shaped how
Speaker:people adapted to life on the island.
Speaker:Yet, uh, the social landscape was also
Speaker:evolving, especially as colonial
Speaker:powers competed for the control of this
Speaker:small but yet strategic island.
Speaker:With each shift in power, a blend of
Speaker:culture and languages emerged, leaving a
Speaker:mark on the community.
Speaker:Dr. Stelton explores how these colonial
Speaker:transitions shape the linguistic and
Speaker:cultural identity of Stacia, a
Speaker:legacy that endures to this day.
Speaker:>> Dr. Stelton: With the island being conquered several times by the British, and then the
Speaker:French, and then the Dutch again British, et cetera, et
Speaker:cetera. Um, you
Speaker:would expect that there would be, like,
Speaker:at least a bit of a mix or different languages on the island
Speaker:historically as well. Um, but what's interesting is
Speaker:that even though for most of its
Speaker:colonial period history, Stacia has been
Speaker:Dutch, especially The last, um, 208 years,
Speaker:it's been Dutch continuously. And Dutch is
Speaker:the official language and the language in government.
Speaker:Right. But on the street, there's not a whole lot of
Speaker:people who speak Dutch. And even the ones
Speaker:who do know how to speak Dutch, they usually speak
Speaker:English anyway, because that's the general language on the island.
Speaker:Right. And I think that partly has to do with the fact that,
Speaker:of course, the island changed hands so many times over the years.
Speaker:Back in the day, a lot of people were trading with the British
Speaker:colonies, such as St. Kitts and Antigua.
Speaker:But also nowadays, a lot of station people, they
Speaker:have their family on those islands, especially in places
Speaker:like St. Kitts, for example. And so, um,
Speaker:obviously, as a former British colony and part of the
Speaker:English Caribbean, they speak English. So I think
Speaker:all those reasons combined make it so that
Speaker:officially the language on Stacia is Dutch,
Speaker:but in reality, everybody just speaks English.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): As Dr. Stelton has explained,
Speaker:Sintostatias was a cultural
Speaker:crossroad, its identity shaped by the republic.
Speaker:Repeated shift in colonial rule. But
Speaker:unlike many European powers of the time,
Speaker:the Dutch colonial approach was notably
Speaker:different. See, for the Dutch colonies
Speaker:were often established not to spread Dutch
Speaker:culture or religion, but to create
Speaker:trading hubs. This emphasis on
Speaker:commerce rather than cultural assimilation
Speaker:meant that the Dutch allowed diversity of
Speaker:influence to thrive,
Speaker:focusing more on economic opportunity
Speaker:than enforcing a, uh, singular national
Speaker:identity. This approach left a, uh,
Speaker:lasting legacy on synthastatius,
Speaker:creating a cultural fabric that
Speaker:Blended regional and European influence in
Speaker:both visible and subtle ways.
Speaker:In the public sphere, we see the Dutch
Speaker:influence in the official language and
Speaker:governmental structures. Yet everyday
Speaker:life on Synthastatius reflects a
Speaker:multilingual and multicultural blend
Speaker:shaped by the practical need to trade and
Speaker:communicate across colonial lines.
Speaker:Even religion was often secondary to trade
Speaker:interest, allowing the Dutch to form
Speaker:unique alliances and networks within the
Speaker:Caribbean. Dr.
Speaker:Morsinks, an archaeologist with over
Speaker:two decades of experience in the Caribbean,
Speaker:including Centustacious, explains
Speaker:how the Dutch prioritized trade over
Speaker:cultural dominance. And
Speaker:this influenced not just the language, but the
Speaker:very foundation of the society on the
Speaker:island, impacting its economic
Speaker:systems, cultural practices, and even its
Speaker:social structures in ways that are still very
Speaker:evident today.
Speaker:>> Dr. Morsinks: Yeah, I think that the colonial effort
Speaker:by the Netherlands is very different from
Speaker:other countries like Spain, France or
Speaker:England. The Dutch emphasis was
Speaker:always on trade. The Dutch were targeting these
Speaker:relatively small islands. Other countries
Speaker:were really establishing new portions of
Speaker:that country elsewhere. So they
Speaker:wanted to engage with these larger islands. They wanted
Speaker:to incorporate that into their territory.
Speaker:The background of the colonial effort, I think for the Dutch was
Speaker:very different from these other European powers.
Speaker:For example, you can see in
Speaker:Suriname, um, but also in Stacia that you have one of the
Speaker:earliest synagogues there,
Speaker:because these other countries were really
Speaker:Catholic or the church of
Speaker:England, and they were really establishing
Speaker:the countries as well as the religion.
Speaker:If you look at the history of, for instance of Stacia,
Speaker:it gets changed so many times. And it's because the
Speaker:Dutch want to set up this trade network on
Speaker:this, um, tax free harbor.
Speaker:But the French and the English are finding their own
Speaker:fights right in the middle of that. But the
Speaker:Dutch are just like, let's keep trading. It didn't matter
Speaker:that much what kind of relation or, uh, background you were as long
Speaker:as you were trading and making money. The Dutch were happy.
Speaker:For instance, the French are very proud of their
Speaker:own culture and their language. And if you're
Speaker:establishing these other islands as part
Speaker:of your country, then you do a lot of effort about
Speaker:cultural education, cultural recordation.
Speaker:And I think you can still see that the
Speaker:French islands are very French
Speaker:at the same time as they are Caribbean, but they're very
Speaker:French and everything is French. And there's
Speaker:a lot of emphasis on culture, There's a lot
Speaker:of emphasis on education, which also
Speaker:means that a lot of things are just written down
Speaker:and, ah, more recorded where if your
Speaker:main emphasis is on trade
Speaker:and your governors are more focused on ensuring
Speaker:that there's money to be made than
Speaker:establishing this hallmark of Dutch
Speaker:quote unquote culture somewhere else,
Speaker:then there is less reason to educate
Speaker:people locally. There's less
Speaker:emphasis on that. There's also less emphasis on
Speaker:recordation because you're trying not to establish
Speaker:a hallmark of Dutch culture, but you're establishing
Speaker:trade posts to make money.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): The Dutch approach to colonialism left a
Speaker:distinct mark on Stacia, creating an island
Speaker:of unique cultural dynamics. Unlike, um,
Speaker:other European powers, the Dutch prioritized
Speaker:trade, allowing a blend of influence
Speaker:to flourish. The result was a trading
Speaker:hub, which created a fusion of languages and
Speaker:cultures shaped over centuries of
Speaker:exchange with neighbors near and far.
Speaker:But what of the island's culture itself?
Speaker:The island's heritage inspector, Mr.
Speaker:Richardson, reflects on Stacia's culture
Speaker:the everyday customs, language, and
Speaker:memories that have lived on through its
Speaker:people.
Speaker:>> Mr. Richardson: The culture on Scintustius I would describe
Speaker:as almost being Phoenix like. I think
Speaker:it's a culture that continuously
Speaker:evolves, continuously changes. But I
Speaker:think there's still a lot of things rooted in the colonial
Speaker:past. But there's also a lot of things that
Speaker:people are not yet aware of, that a lot of the things
Speaker:people do, the way people speak, the way people
Speaker:pronounce things, is a lot of things, uh, came out
Speaker:of Africa. You know, it's like the
Speaker:enslaved ancestors may not have been able to travel with
Speaker:their belongings, but they did travel with
Speaker:memory. And memory is very strong. That's
Speaker:how we, as people, we learn things through memory. And, of course,
Speaker:out of the memory of the enslaved ancestors, many of
Speaker:that, many of those things became statistical
Speaker:culture. So I think stacious cultures are kind
Speaker:of unawarely
Speaker:doing stuff that we can explain, or we do not know where
Speaker:it comes from because it wasn't properly studied.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): As we bring our episode to a close, we
Speaker:stand on the threshold of, uh, Stacia's rich, layered
Speaker:history. A, uh, history that pulses with
Speaker:resilience, transformation, and the power of
Speaker:memory. From colonial shifts to
Speaker:deep cultural exchanges, the island story
Speaker:is one of constant reinvention that reflects
Speaker:both its struggles and triumphs.
Speaker:These stories are more than just marks left by
Speaker:empires. They are also the subtle, profound
Speaker:contribution of women who have built,
Speaker:preserved, and nourished life here.
Speaker:Their voices, their whisper
Speaker:that history has almost forgotten. They called
Speaker:to us, urging us to see the
Speaker:island not just as a relic of past
Speaker:empires, but as a living canvas
Speaker:where women, families, and
Speaker:traditions have left its mark.
Speaker:Thank you for beginning this journey with us.
Speaker:In our walk forward, we look back to the
Speaker:indigenous communities of Stacia, and we
Speaker:meet the women whose wisdom, strength,
Speaker:and leadership were woven deeply into their
Speaker:communities. These were the first
Speaker:voices of the land who set the stage
Speaker:for all that was to come.