Simoda have had an incredible few years, winning awards left right and centre and making a real name for themselves.

But, why? What are they doing differently?

Well James went along to their HQ in Neepsend to meet founder Daniel Bumby and learn more about Simoda's secrets.

It's not all tech talk - we also discuss space and the final frontier, why Daniel hates butter, a bit of music and football, and our mutual friend Dave.

It's a really good 'un. Enjoy!

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