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Copyright 2024 Aisha R. Shabazz
Hello and welcome to another
live recording of Beyond
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:the Session with Ayesha.
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:My name is Ayesha, your host of the
business podcast for mental health
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:therapists that want to keep the private
practice they work so hard to build.
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:I love doing these live podcast
episodes because it allows me to
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:really talk, not necessarily in a
stream of consciousness, but in a way
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:that elicits natural conversation.
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:So for those of you that are tuning
in live, Do not hesitate to raise
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:your hand to ask any questions
that come up along the way.
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:I will pause because that is
the benefit of post production.
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:You could always clip and edit
and adjust things so that it
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:sounds smooth on the replay.
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:So today we are talking about the
five social media strategies that
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:therapists need to stop ASAP.
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:And One of the reasons why I picked
this topic is because there are a lot
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:of private practice owners that are so
hesitant to use social media marketing
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:strategies, one of which you heard me
talk about on yesterday's episode of
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:this trend that social media is fake.
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:They don't want to come
off as inauthentic.
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:And as you heard me
detail, there really is.
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:Only a few ways that you could
come off as being inauthentic.
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:And that is really admitting
to people or at least declaring
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:that all of your content up until
that point was just a facade.
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:I mean, you know, as business owners, that
the one way that we can effectively build
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:know, like, and trust is being honest
with our clients about what it's going to
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:be like for them to go through a mental
health journey with us and Work towards
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:their goals challenges and aspirations.
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:So if you're participating in a trend
that's Claiming that social media is fake.
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:You're presenting it as if you were fake
the entire time and Sure, you might have
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:people rooting for you and saying yes.
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:Thanks for admitting it But at the end
of the day, if you are using social
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:media to promote your business and
then saying that it's a fake platform,
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:then why wouldn't someone ask you the
next question, which is, well, then
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:why are you here if you're so real?
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:So resist the urge, if at all
possible, to not do this trend.
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:Inherently, I don't think trends
are problematic, but this one
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:is definitely one One to avoid.
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:So that allows me to dovetail right
into one of the first strategies that
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:I think you need to avoid when you
are running a mental health practice.
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:And that is copying
other people's content.
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:So, Creating or using trends
in your social media content is
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:not inherently copying, right?
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:Like, you're jumping on a bandwagon, so
to speak, and noticing that people are
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:getting a lot of traction, and using
certain sounds and music and catchphrases
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:and one liners, and you're like, wow,
they're getting a lot of traction, they're
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:getting a lot of engagement and views.
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:Why don't I use that and see
how my audience responds?
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:The problem with taking it a step further
and just flat out copying someone is
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:most of the time when people are being
Copycats for lack of a better word.
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:They're not actually Adding the
original creator of that trend and
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:so that's where you end up building
up this beef with someone that you
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:most likely don't even know on the
internet you want to build community.
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:And the last thing you want
to do is burn a bridge.
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:So when you are creating your social
media content, resist the urge to
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:copy and paste someone else's content.
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:Make it your own if at all possible.
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:And if you can't think creatively enough
to make it your own, then don't use it.
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:You know that it's not a strong
enough idea to carry your messaging.
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:The other thing about copying
other people's content,
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:and I'm not even kidding.
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:I will post the tick talk that
I saw just this morning where.
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:There was a content creator that
called somebody out and said, you
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:know, and tag the person name them
by name and said, you copied me.
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:And so that creator who was
accused of copying that person
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:responded with a stitch.
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:That's how you, um, connect
videos together for those of
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:you that are not on TikTok.
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:And the accused person said,
Hey, you know, thanks for
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:tagging me and letting me know.
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:I actually didn't copy you.
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:You were participating in a
trend and she had receipts.
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:She had screenshots of all of the
other female creators that were
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:using the very similar trend.
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:And then she called it out and said, you
actually weren't the original creator.
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:It was this person from
back in January, I believe.
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:So if anything, you copied her and
I apologize for giving you credit.
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:I should have given this
other creator credit.
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:So notice how these two people
who did not know each other, but
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:the way that TikTok is organized
is that it will organize people.
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:Sometimes the original creator
will be in the top left corner.
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most popular video that will show
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:up and That way people will know,
Oh, this is the model for the trend.
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:So if you were following a trend and I
did one last week, it was a voiceover
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:trend and people were encouraged.
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:The original poster was
encouraging people to do it.
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:Like in the comment section, people
were like, yeah, I want to do this.
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:And it was about creating content
and not being afraid to do it.
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:And so that was more or less like a battle
cry for people to be like, you know what?
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:I am going to create content.
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:I'm not going to be shy anymore.
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:So for those of you that are just
tuning in, I just want to share
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:with you, you know, tech glitches
are bound to happen and I love
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:the idea of having backup audio.
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:And so I have a backup audio of
what we're talking about today.
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:And This is, these are some of the
things that I will share with you
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:on the behind the scenes content if
you're an email newsletter subscriber.
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:One of the reasons why it's so important
to not copy other people's content.
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:on social media or in general, is that you
are, you are degrading the goodwill that
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:you've already built up to that point.
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:So when it comes to being a mental
health therapist, trust is everything.
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:That is how we build rapport.
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:And so if your clients are witnessing
you, you know, essentially ripping off
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:other people's content and not giving them
credit and then being called out for it,
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:Then the wheels start to turn a little bit
and they may never say anything to you.
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:They might say, you know what, if
they're, if they're doing that out
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:in the open and in public, what's
going to happen behind closed doors
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:when I show up for therapy with them?
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:So this is the reason why I encourage
you to think very intentionally
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:about the trends that you're
using so that you're not getting
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:caught up in a sticky situation.
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:The other reason why I think it's super
important to create original content, and
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:that's what we're really talking about,
is because when you are creating original
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:content, it activates a different part of
your brain because you're being creative.
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:You're requiring yourself to think
outside the box, and people are going
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:to relate to you if they've never seen
What you're talking about before, or
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:the way in which you talk about it
is going to be unique enough to them.
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:And that's going to make you stand out.
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:We know from the 7 Day Visibility
Challenge that one of the key components
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:of being visible is standing out.
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:And you can stand out in your
social media marketing strategies.
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:You can also stand out on your website.
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:This is why I encourage
all of you to sign up.
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:And select a specialty and to niche
in your mental health business.
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:Because by doing that, people
are going to remember who you
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:are for all the right reasons.
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:And that is what's going to
take a future client to be a
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:current client on your caseload.
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:The second strategy that I think you
need to stop ASAP when it comes to social
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:media marketing is posting and ghosting.
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:Um, your audience.
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:decided to follow you on social media
because they want to hear from you.
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:And one of the biggest things
that I hear from therapists is I
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:feel like I'm posting too much.
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:And my question back to that is, well,
how do you know, is it because someone
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:told you you're posting too much?
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:If that's the case, they can unfollow you.
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:They can mute your content
for a certain period of time.
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:Pretty much on most social media
platforms, And I listed the most popular
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:ones on the episode that aired yesterday.
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:You can mute an account without
having to unfollow them.
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:So give them that option
if they start complaining.
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:There's a fun little phrase that people
use a lot on TikTok where You know,
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:someone will get upset with a creator in
the comments and they'll say, I'm leaving.
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:I'm not going to follow you anymore.
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:And you know, the appropriate response is
you don't have to announce your departure.
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:So sometimes people are going to
rock and roll if they feel upset or
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:You don't want to stop yourself
from posting on social media
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:because you're over thinking the
idea that you're posting too much.
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:And if you think you're posting
too much, don't post too much.
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well, are you getting results
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you're posting too much.
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that you're posting.
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:So when we look at your social media
engagement, you can define this in
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:different ways, but most of the social
media platforms have an analytics
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:dashboard that you can see how many
likes, how many follows subscribes.
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:Reposts are a big content
analytic here and LinkedIn.
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media strategy that therapists need to
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:You have to know your numbers to
know whether or not your content is
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:landing with your target audience.
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:If you're ignoring the numbers
because you've convinced yourself
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:that you're not good at math and you
know, you're allergic to numbers and
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beliefs and you know what that means.
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see things differently.
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:If you feel uncomfortable with
analytics and you don't know how
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:to read them, that's why I'm here.
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:You can sign up for a strategy
call to understand why your social
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:media content is not getting
you the results that you want.
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away after 90 minutes with a solid review.
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:plan so that you're not feeling
lost and confused or even
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:So the next thing that therapists need
to stop doing when it comes to their
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posting lip syncs and faceless posts.
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therapists who feel insecure about the
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the very least Use voiceovers or B
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people are not going to get to
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:know you for the therapist that
they're going to hire down the road.
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:There are many creators outside of
the mental health space whose whole
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:platform is based on lip syncs and
that might work for them because they
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not running a business that relies on
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client's shoes for a moment.
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:You've seen this therapist, you
bonded, you've connected over their
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:content and you're inspired to
finally say yes to working with them.
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starting therapy and your mental health
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trust, that is an element of what
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that rapport beyond the session.
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if your content is engaging enough
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using your natural voice, they can
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:Yet when you are a mental health
business owner, it's important to
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like to actually work with you.
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the different types of content you're
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no face, no voice or anything at the
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connect with you in a different way.
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:There is a play therapist that I recently
came across her content and I'll I'll link
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platform is her having these Play sessions
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is also the child and she is modeling
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:for the things that she is seeing in her
sessions to help parents understand how
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:she's going to give them feedback about
what their child is doing in sessions.
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firsthand that the play therapists that
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figure out how to convey to the parents
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:of the children they want to work with
that play therapy is actually effective
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and some clinical feedback about how
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TikTok in videos using her voice.
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:The other thing that you can do to
keep your content more authentic,
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of jumping off into the deep end
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:If you are offering in person
sessions, why not do scenes, a video
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:B roll voices or no voices or even.
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:Creating your own stock imagery in
your office, because that's the space
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to engage with when they hire you.
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they even step into the space.
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comfortable and confident about
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my list of big no nos and this list of
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:Complaining about therapy seekers online.
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are complaining about the people that are
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:And Frankly, these are the same people who
complain about not having enough clients.
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:You're upset that you don't have
enough clients and yet you're
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:complaining about the people that
are reaching out to you for therapy.
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:That is a problem of your own making.
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:And so instead of being in a position
where you're frustrated and overwhelmed
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:As according to some people etiquette,
which, you know, that's a different
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:conversation for a different day that
I will climb off my high horse for now.
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:But if you feel like therapy seekers are
not behaving quote unquote appropriately
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:You need to create a system and boundaries
and clearly communicate what you expect.
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:How are they supposed to know?
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:That it is not okay with you to call
you five times back to back, right?
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:Do you ask them to leave
a voicemail message?
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:Do you let them know that the only
way that you're going to call them
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:Do you even have a website?
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:So there are so many different
things that are within your control.
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building up is something that
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:That is another thing that I talk a
lot about with my coaching clients.
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:It's running your private practice
is not only about filling your
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:There are a lot of business things
that have to go in to running
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:your mental health business.
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:And it comes down to
communication expectations.
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:How much does it cost to work with you?
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:Making sure that they understand
where your office is located.
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situation where you are resenting
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therapy with you, knowing that you
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effectively, you have two options.
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:caseload and say, you're not accepting
any new clients and seek out additional
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:support from either case consultation,
clinical supervision, if you're still,
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maybe you need to take some time away from
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that are not paying you, I don't, I
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if you get frustrated with a client
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:And You know, I, I made a TikTok video
about this, commenting on, on something
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:that someone was venting about therapy
seekers and they were being very,
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posting about it on the internet, And
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like LinkedIn where it's connected
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I'm going to, I'm going to X out
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:your name because I do want people
to learn from your experience so that
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to have community around you because
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deserve to vent, but venting on the
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your therapist, then in case
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clients that to me about what's
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is the reality of being a human
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:Everything is not going to be
rainbows and sunshine, we can't.
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:walk through life with rose
colored glasses on, we have to
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:recognize the fact that there are
days that are going to be hard.
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difficulty in an effective way, you're
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Social media strategy that
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questions from the audience So all you
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I will bring you up on stage I'll give
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and what your clinical status is
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of this live recording of
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:Welcome Claire.
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:So glad to see you here.
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:Aaron, do you have any questions
or thoughts that have popped up?
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:So I'm tuning in from North
Carolina OCD Specialist.
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:And I think for my social media
strategies, I've mostly used LinkedIn,
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:Um, I think one of the things that you
and I were discussing recently was adding
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:more content to my LinkedIn post when I'm
advertising my latest podcast episode.
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:And so, With, uh, just kind
of revisiting that topic.
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:So with the soundbites, how do I
determine, I guess, what a good soundbite
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:So for those of you that don't have
a podcast, there are many creative
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:ways that you can Let people know
about the podcast episode specifically
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:So the soundbites that Aaron is
referencing, you might also be familiar
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:with the term audiograms where it is
taking an audio clip from your podcast
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:and then putting it visually so that
people can have something to look at.
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:Maybe you have, The captions, in addition
to the sound waves moving in coordination
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standalone image like the cover image
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:So when you are promoting your podcast
on a platform like LinkedIn, it's
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:important for people to know what
do you want them to get out of that
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:Is it a cliffhanger where you're
just like, Ooh, what's going on?
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pull a fact out of it?
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:So, for example, if you create a podcast
episode about OCD where you cover three
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:things, you could do a LinkedIn post
that covers one thing very briefly and
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:say to Learn more about the other two.
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:I cover them on this week's
episode of the podcast.
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:So that way, they're getting a
preview of what they can expect.
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to the following, , parts of the
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engagement on some platforms.
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for click through rates as far as
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it would be a nice analytic for them
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people are actually clicking the links
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:How many times people have clicked a link.
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:Another idea that you could do Especially
when you have guests on your podcast
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the face of the guest on your show in
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associating your show with you and
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:they're recognizing like, oh, this
is a guest like this isn't someone
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have like a frequent recurring guest.
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is there is a platform called Riverside.
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my guests on my podcast.
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is you have to record the video once
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video automatically for other platforms.
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way you can repurpose the video
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on the bottom or vice versa.
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a click of a button and you can
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:repurpose that same video clip
for youtube because we know that
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:youtube Is more of the horizontal
video as opposed to the vertical
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:So if you take your entire interview,
let's say the interview lasted for
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sound bites from that episode
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:So it's, it's, it's attracting the
people that might not listen to the whole
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going to watch the highlight reel of it.
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because it will recommend.
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are the most engaging.
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AI to assist you with that.
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her podcast, grief is the new normal.
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:Now the last question I have, and it may
be just a matter of preference, but I have
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multiple slides or photos, if you will,
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advertising their podcast episode and.
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:Well, I guess it's kind
of a two part question.
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consider having multiple photos
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train of thought, we'll start with
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:Yeah, so everyone who's listening in, what
Erin is describing is called a carousel,
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or videos in one post, and someone can
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:swipe left or right to review, read,
or listen to those posts, or watch.
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:So, creating carousels It really
just depends on how often you're
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:putting them in front of your
audience and how engaging they are.
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:So I think they're worth
experimenting with.
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:I'm going to be experimenting with
carousels, this quarter and you
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:know, your analytics are really
going to be able to show you whether
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:or not they're engaging enough with
your audience based on, you know,
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:how many people are reposting them.
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:I think that's a great way to
educate people without them
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:having to listen to the podcast.
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:When we talk about accessibility as
far as mental health content goes,
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:this is another way for you to be
accessible where you can actually have
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:the opportunity to say, you know what?
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:Everybody's not going to listen to a
podcast, maybe, or maybe not in full, but
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:I'm going to transfer that material into
written form so that people can still get.
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:The nuggets that I want them to get
so that is also the benefit of doing
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:a text based carousel whether it's on
linkedin, carousels are also available
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:now on tiktok They've been available for
the longest time on instagram I haven't
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:seen people really use them on facebook
because facebook actually posts them
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:almost like a grid in photo form But,
you know, maybe they'll, they'll switch
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:it up since Facebook and Instagram are
under the meta umbrella, but I definitely
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:think it's worth exploring for you
for sure for your, for your podcast.
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:All right.
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:Now, my last question is
when it comes to posting.
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:images for your posts.
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:Like sometimes I hear like, you
know, keep it consistent, but
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:then I also like a little bit of
like diversity and mixing it up.
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:And I'm, I feel like I'm still
testing out different, um, like
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:Canva designs, for example.
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:So I'm kind of figuring out which way do
I go with this or maybe do I have Like a,
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:let's say, a consistent logo or icon that
I put with my images so that my audience
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:knows, oh, this is Erin's product or post.
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:Yeah.
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:I'm just trying to gauge, like, what
kind of designs do I stick with?
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:Do I stay consistent?
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:Do I mix it up?
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:Or do I bring in an element?
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:Yes, so the visual of your content
is going to build that familiarity
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:and it's actually going to build
that know, like, and trust factor.
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:So I think while you're in
this experimentation phase,
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:I would say have fun with it.
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:But.
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:Notice the colors that you're already
using and like your welcome guide and
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:you know, and other elements within
your business that your current
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:clients already have and just see,
you know, if I consistently use this,
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:is this going to be familiar to them
when they become a current client?
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:The answer is yes.
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:I wouldn't put so much pressure
on yourself to keep everything so
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:consistent that it's stressing you out.
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:I'm more so encouraging you to just get
the content out there and we can always
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:clean it up later because you're going to
be reposting and repurposing this content.
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:So no one's going to remember that
last week you used a daffodil yellow
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:and this week you're using lilac.
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:They just know that Erin is
the OCD specialist that I want
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:to listen to and learn from.
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:You're welcome.
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:Great questions.
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:All right, we have Claire.
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:Welcome, Claire.
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:If you'd like to take yourself off mute
and tell us where you're tuning in from,
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:what your specialty is, population you're
serving, and then ask your question.
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:Hey there, this is so fun.
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:This is my first time joining a
live event like this, am tuning in
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:from, uh, coastal Virginia, and I
work in eating disorder treatment
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:at the PHP and IOP levels of care.
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:Um, Wednesdays is my early day,
so you'll hear my dog, you'll, you
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:will hear my dog in the background.
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:I apologize for that.
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:so the question that I care a lot about,
um, like, peer, like, connecting with
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:peers in the mental health space, in
the health care worker space, um, and
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:engaging in, like, peer supervision
and just speaking on, um, You know,
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:that, just what it is to navigate
the process of, of coming into your
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:own as a clinician through, you
know, all the stages of development,
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:that's really meaningful to me.
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:And also, um, clients will find you,
current clients or potential clients
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:will find you on the internet.
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:And so I'm curious, um, if you have
any thoughts or reflections on how
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:to balance, like sort of balance.
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:I care very much about having my, um.
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:Um, messaging kind of speak towards both,
like towards both other professionals
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:as well as to, um, people, you know,
not necessarily, I don't, you know,
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:necessarily want to use social media
to market to potential clients, but
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:I'm aware that, um, Um, people who are
not in the mental health space, but
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:are rather looking for content that
would be meaningful to them in terms
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:of what it is that they might want to
learn about are also going to view it.
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:How do you recommend handling
that or what are your thoughts
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:around that for professionals?
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:Yeah, this is a lovely question, Claire.
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:And I'm curious to know.
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:With your experience in the eating
disorder community and having the IOP
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:experience, are you an independent
practitioner or are you a part of an
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:organization, hospital setting agency?
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:Both.
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:So I, in the PHP and IOP level of
care, I work in, I mean, essentially
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:it's a private practice, but it's in,
you know, it's, it's not my business.
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:I work for somebody else.
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:Um, it is not a hospital system that
I work in, um, but it is a partial
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:hospitalization program that emerged
out of a person's private practice.
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:Um, and then I also see outpatient clients
who are not eating disorder specific
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:in private practice independently.
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:Okay, so who are you most concerned
about the, the patients that you're
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:seeing in partial hospitalization
or the patients that you're seeing
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:in your private practice that are
unrelated to eating disorders?
503
:Um, it's, it's more so that like
the nature of the reflections
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:are just very different.
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:Like having a, having a reflection
about what the experience is being
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:a counselor, that would be very
meaningful to another professional.
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:is not appropriate for a current
or potential client to have
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:insight into, if that makes sense.
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:Um, so it's not, it's not so
much the eating disorder specific
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:lens that I'm concerned with.
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:Um, it's more of just, as I've evolved
in my work, I've like, Cared very much
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:about speaking about, you know, my
professional development, and those
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:are two very different audiences.
514
:Yeah, so this is the conundrum that
I'm hearing, is that you want to speak
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:candidly about what it's like to be a
clinician, and yet you Speaking candidly
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:could also hinder the therapeutic
relationship with future or current
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:clients that you have in either sector.
518
:Yeah, like it, yeah,
it feels not helpful.
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:Potentially not helpful.
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:I'm not really sure what I think about it.
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:Yeah, so this is not necessarily,
similar to what I said earlier, and
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:there will be a replay of this tomorrow.
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:Oh, perfect.
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:Yeah.
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:Um, it's not similar to what
I addressed earlier, which is
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:about therapists complaining about
therapy seekers or current clients.
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:It sounds like you're trying to have
clinical conversations about your work.
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:And so there's a couple of ways, yeah.
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:So there's a couple of ways that you could
do this with integrity and it's having
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:a conversation a social media platform.
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:I know you said that you're not using
social media, but there are some people
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:that are, that are listening to this.
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:And then having more of a
closed environment where you can
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:control who is going to see the
content that you're creating.
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:So one way to do this is to
create a subscriber only email
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:newsletter where that's where
you're having these conversations
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:where you can still speak freely.
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:It's It's more or less you creating
the content and putting it out
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:there and people could engage with
it by opening and digging into it
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:more, responding to your emails.
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:But that is the, easiest and
effective way to do what you're
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:trying to do without potentially
harming the therapeutic relationship
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:of future and current clients.
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:Okay.
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:Yeah.
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:Yeah, and there are free email
newsletter platforms out there like
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:LinkedIn is still in its experimentation
phase with its newsletter.
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:So that's not private that exists
and it's owned by LinkedIn.
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:So you don't have.
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:an audience that you could, you
know, curate to the point where
551
:you're like, oh, I only want X
person to see it instead of Y.
552
:You could create a page on LinkedIn,
um, depending on the settings on your
553
:LinkedIn profile and admit people to
like this private LinkedIn page or
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:LinkedIn group, and then that way it
kind of functions like a Facebook group.
555
:But it would be important for you to
just manage those, those group dynamics.
556
:If people who do not see your clinical
work in the same way and, and do want
557
:to complain about clients, like that's
where you get into that slippery slope.
558
:So creating an off platform
and off social media.
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:newsletter using, , Substack.
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:Substack is really popular right
now, and they are currently allowing
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:people to create email newsletters for
free, , and then you can monetize those.
562
:I recommend for people that have their
own private practice to actually take
563
:it a step further, and, Use their email
marketing to actually support their
564
:business endeavors because it allows you
to build up wait lists very naturally.
565
:It kind of crosses off another box for
any future needs for client work or case
566
:consultation if that's what you want to
offer to your colleagues down the road.
567
:And the two platforms that I recommend
for that are flow desk and, uh, uh,
568
:uh, And I use both of those flow
desk for my private practice and then
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:convert kit for my consulting firm.
570
:Yeah, that makes sense.
571
:Um, I sort of, I've taken a similar, I
do, I do have social media and use it
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:like in a professional context and just
not using it to try to get clients.
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:That's just not consistent with how
I personally am using it right now,
574
:but I do also have flow desk and I've,
I've started to sort of differentiate
575
:those two aspects just on Instagram
on the most basic level using the, um,
576
:What's that, like, close friends feature
where it's like you decide who it is
577
:that can, like, get access to that.
578
:But I think I'm, like, having a
more I'm having a more complicated
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:relationship with it because it's
like, I don't, I believe that there's
580
:a world, like a world where this
doesn't need to be differentiated as
581
:stringently, but I can't figure out
quite yet what I think about that.
582
:Um, it's something that I want to be
cautious about and thoughtful about
583
:and deliberate about, um, in order
to, you know, um, Like, I, I, I'm one
584
:person, and these are not separate
parts of my professional identity.
585
:These are companion parts
of my professional identity.
586
:And I think that, like, there's a world
in which the, all of the things that one
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:does Um, like the meaning making process
of their own professional development
588
:with integrity that is healthy for, for
individuals who seek therapy to have
589
:awareness of if for no other reason from
like an education standpoint to advise
590
:like you want somebody who engages
in their, in their professional life
591
:in this way, you want somebody who's,
you know, passionate and convicted and
592
:self aware and engages all of these,
Um, but I don't quite know how to, I
593
:don't think a lot of people do that.
594
:I don't see a ton of examples
of it and so it's just something
595
:I'm way more cautious about.
596
:Yeah.
597
:And, you know, I think it's unfortunate
that more people aren't vocal about it.
598
:I do this in my content very openly on my
Instagram channel for my therapy practice
599
:and with my current clients, I will
tell them, you know, Other things that
600
:I am doing to advocate for you and you
know, I specialize in treating anxiety.
601
:So making sure that people are
not discriminating against folks
602
:that have anxiety in the workplace
is having these conversations
603
:out loud and out in the open.
604
:And so they already know that when,
if, if they happen to follow me on
605
:Instagram, LinkedIn, which, you know,
it's their prerogative to do that.
606
:You can have any social media
policy you want, but it's not going
607
:to stop a client from following
you or reading your content.
608
:And I do the same thing on Tik TOK
too, the reason why I'm on Tik TOK is
609
:to elevate the mental health industry.
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:And.
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:The people that are engaging and
commenting and saying, Hey, can
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:you create a video about this?
613
:It's it's almost split 50 50 between
therapy seekers and therapists and people
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:who are interested in elevating the mental
health industry and being advocates.
615
:So I don't think you have
to stringently separate.
616
:The communities, if you feel
comfortable and confident and knowing
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:that you are not going to harm the
other by talking about it candidly.
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:And I think there's a way to do that.
619
:But there are some conversations, I
agree with you, that are There has to
620
:be a deeper level of understanding of
what case consultation is and clinical
621
:supervision is so that if a therapy
seeker does come across your content,
622
:they understand like, oh, okay, yeah,
this is them supporting each other.
623
:But there is a time and a place for
it and a depth level that social
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:media as a whole can tolerate.
625
:And we know that, right.
626
:And even if we think back to
the clinicians that we have.
627
:have been practicing before
the advent of social media.
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:You know, all of us are young
enough to remember a time where
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:social media did not exist.
630
:Those therapists were still having
those meaningful conversations.
631
:So just because it's difficult
now doesn't mean it's not.
632
:worth doing and doesn't
mean that it can't be done.
633
:But I think you're setting a great example
for what it actually looks like and trying
634
:to make sure that you're maintaining
the integrity of the other parts of our
635
:work beyond the session, instead of just
pretending that like, Oh yeah, clients
636
:aren't going to find us on the internet.
637
:It's like, no, it's the internet.
638
:They're going to find you.
639
:That's the whole point of it.
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:Yeah, and I think the one thing I
just want to add is that like, in no
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:world would I ever bring anything that
has anything even remotely to do with
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:case consultation into social media.
643
:That feels profoundly inappropriate.
644
:It's sort of so started out of like
medical students will do this a lot.
645
:They'll continue it into their
residency where they're kind of
646
:talking about what is the journey
of becoming this professional?
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:What is that kind of, you know,
what is that trajectory like?
648
:Um, and so the thing that I'm most
passionate about, you know, Is speaking
649
:about like the first generation college
student experience, what it is to be like
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:the first generation of a profession,
like a woman with a profession in your
651
:lineage and what kind of like what,
what is it like to kind of assume that
652
:kind of authority for yourself for your
life for professional identity and role.
653
:And then related to that is like,
what is it like to engage sort of
654
:systemic barriers within health care
infrastructures that both make it
655
:difficult to assume that identity and
also are oppressive toward, you know,
656
:the clients that those, you know, That
the healthcare industry kind of serves.
657
:And so it's like my desire to be,
uh, you know, just to contribute
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:to a reflection around that.
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:Um, I hope doesn't need to
contraindicate what, you know, how
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:then, you know, therapy seekers, I
appreciate the languaging around that.
661
:But that's That makes so much sense, um,
how then therapy seekers engage with, like
662
:if that means that they know more about
my identity, do you know what I mean?
663
:They know more about, um, you know, or,
or there are transparent conversations
664
:about the kind of systems that they
might find themselves in or be served by.
665
:Um, so that, you know, that's sort
of where that, you know, I just
666
:wanted to, you know, kind of, you
know, clarify the, the clinical
667
:supervision case consultation component.
668
:I, yeah, I agree with you, not on social
media, no, that is no place, um, in a
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:social networking kind of environment.
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:Um, but it's that other stuff that,
yeah, I do hope I can figure out a
671
:way, I appreciate that you're kind of
speaking towards the way in which you,
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:you know, you do that in your own work,
um, as kind of like a model of what I
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:might be able to, To follow for myself.
674
:Yeah, definitely.
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:And don't hesitate to take a peek at
the content that I've created around
676
:making sure that your values are
steeped in what you're doing, not just
677
:in session, but beyond the session,
because And if your clients don't know
678
:where you stand, we're not building
that rapport and they're not going to
679
:trust us with their lived experience.
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:So there are many, many, many mental
health therapists out there that are so
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:transparent about their lived experience.
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:And that actually builds a close bond
with therapy seekers, current clients,
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:past clients, and some people are not
going to feel comfortable with disclosing,
684
:but there is a delicate balance that is.
685
:Each of us has, and you
can definitely find that.
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:And I, I talk about this constantly and
very upfront and very unapologetic because
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:I think about the one person that needs
to hear what I'm going to share and how
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:that will positively impact their life.
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:And then I'm ready for the other
conversations that could happen.
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:And that, You know, nicely dovetails into
that sixth bonus social media strategy
691
:that I think therapists need to stop
doing on the internet overall is trolling
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:each other, there are so many people that
are so critical of what they're seeing
693
:because it wasn't what we used to do.
694
:Like, you know, why are you
telling clients that you have a
695
:certain diagnosis and why are you
telling us this about your life?
696
:And I would never do that.
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:There, there has to be something that.
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:just flashes in that person's
mind and just say, you know what?
699
:Remember how we said our clients have the
right to self determination where our, our
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:clinicians, our colleagues, our therapists
from around the world also have that
701
:ability to, and if they have determined
that self disclosure is going to build
702
:the therapeutic relationship on and off
screen, Then allow them to share their
703
:story, but it is not fair to criticize
them for what they're choosing to do
704
:because that's where their values lie.
705
:And that's why when we talk about
branding, you know, earlier, Aaron,
706
:you know, position this question around
visual branding, but we also have to
707
:think about the branding that no one sees.
708
:That is sharing our values, allowing
people to understand where we
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:are coming from context matters.
710
:And if we are still leaning
into this tabula rasa type of
711
:therapy, people are over that.
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:That's why when people are saying
this trend, which started this whole
713
:series of episodes this week, when
people are saying social media is
714
:fake, and then in session, you, uh,
Your client knows nothing about you.
715
:That's fake.
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:People don't want an
authentic therapist anymore.
717
:They want to know that the person
across the room from them is real
718
:and honest and genuine and you get
to decide what that looks like for
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:you within your own comfort zone.
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:So, if you are listening to this
on the replay, I hope that you have
721
:been encouraged not only by Aaron's
questions and Claire's questions.
722
:Thank you so much both for joining
us during the, the live recording
723
:of Beyond the Session with Aisha.
724
:You can enjoy this video.
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:Recording on Thursday, because
episodes are released on Tuesdays and
726
:Thursdays, and I hope to see you all
next week where we'll have another
727
:fun, exciting topic to explore.
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729
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733
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734
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735
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736
:paths you're currently navigating.
737
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738
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739
:you are, you're going to have a resource
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740
:200 values that you can pick from to
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741
:So I thank you all for joining
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742
:And until next time, take care,
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