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Join your host Danny Brown as he puts this week's 5 random questions to Joe Casabona. These include why he doesn't mind wet dog smells, why he wishes he could take back one thing he did in his younger years, and why his side of the fridge is the bad side. Let's jump in!

Joe Casabona

Joe is a podcast systems coach who helps busy solopreneurs take back their time. Some even say he perfectly blends content creation and technology like it’s the best cup of coffee you’ve ever had (he says that). His strategies come from his many years of experience: over 10 years creating podcasts, more than 15 years teaching, and over 20 years as a web developer.

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Joe:

I have allergies, never really grew up with them, I'm, I always feel like

Joe:

you don't know what you're thinking, like you have like the Chandler Bing.

Joe:

Answer, right, of why he doesn't like dogs.

Joe:

But three, like the, the smell of wet dog does not bother me nearly

Joe:

as much as people who stink.

Danny:

Hey, and welcome

Danny:

to five random questions.

Danny:

The show where every question is an adventure.

Danny:

I'm your host, Danny Brown.

Danny:

And each week, I'll be asking my guests five questions created

Danny:

by a random question generator.

Danny:

The guest has no idea what the questions are, and neither do I,

Danny:

which means this could go either way.

Danny:

So, sit back, relax, and let's dive into this week's episode.

Danny:

Today, I'm posing the questions to Joe Casabona, who helps busy

Danny:

solopreneurs take back their time.

Danny:

Some even say he perfectly blends content creation and technology.

Danny:

Like it's the best cup of coffee you've ever had.

Danny:

Okay, Joe says that.

Danny:

Joe's got a lot of experience over 10 years when it comes to creating podcasts,

Danny:

as well as more than 15 years in teaching, and over 20 years as a web developer.

Danny:

So, he's probably going to have a few things to say,

Danny:

which is perfect for this show.

Danny:

So Joe, welcome to 5 Random Questions.

Joe:

Thanks so much for having me.

Joe:

I'm really excited to be here.

Danny:

For sure, and you've got, like, just reading that out there,

Danny:

that's a lot of experience, mate.

Joe:

Yeah, it's Thanks I started when I was 14, like web development,

Joe:

but to put it in context, I was watching a Instagram reel today that

Joe:

personally attacked me by, by saying Grand Theft Auto Vice City, right?

Joe:

It came out in 2002.

Joe:

It takes place in, in 1986.

Joe:

If it came out today, it would take place in 2008.

Joe:

And that, that is gross to me, like I'm like, I was like a full blown adult, like

Joe:

a voting, voting in elections that like, at that age, I don't, I don't appre,

Joe:

so I feel like, I feel very old today.

Danny:

Well, and I was going to say, when I mentioned that you've got

Danny:

like 20 plus years in the, the web development, you don't look old, mate.

Danny:

You know, you're a little bit grey in your beard,

Danny:

but

Danny:

you don't look

Danny:

old.

Joe:

Well, thank you.

Joe:

I have three kids, so that's like, that's where the grey comes from.

Danny:

You know what, I hear you, I don't know as many of you, I've

Danny:

got two, but I definitely greyed out big time after they were born.

Danny:

I think that's just a, a thing, right?

Danny:

It's just like, it adds greyness.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

You know, it like gets you, like, you know, there's like the, yeah, like

Joe:

kids do whatever they want and it's frustrating, but then there's also

Joe:

the constant worry you have about them and everything they're doing.

Joe:

And it's like, you know, it's, it's wonderful.

Joe:

I love being a dad, but you know, they had like a concert for us this

Joe:

morning and that was like adorable.

Joe:

But You know, you do worry about them.

Joe:

So, I'll take the grays, though.

Joe:

I'll take the grays for the good experience.

Danny:

You're looking very dapper with the grays, especially

Danny:

with your yellow hat there.

Danny:

That's nice.

Danny:

It's, you know, countering it really well.

Joe:

Thank you.

Danny:

So, what we're going to do, Joe, as I mentioned, we've

Danny:

got five random questions.

Danny:

I have no idea what they are.

Danny:

They're just going to pop up when I open the generator, and

Danny:

we'll just see where it goes.

Danny:

So, I'm going to bring the generator up, and let's just get that now.

Danny:

Alrighty.

Danny:

So, question one.

Danny:

Let's just spin the generator here.

Danny:

Alright.

Danny:

Here we go, then.

Danny:

Alright.

Danny:

Let's get the ball rolling.

Danny:

Who from your past do you really wish you'd stayed in contact with?

Joe:

Man, this is quite a question.

Danny:

It's a good

Danny:

opener.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

Okay.

Joe:

So, I mean, there's a lot of people, but I think that I have a, a couple of

Joe:

friends from college who predictably we lost touch with each other after college.

Joe:

So you know, I have like my friend Kat, we would text each other.

Joe:

In direct rela like, the amount of time that would go between how often we texted

Joe:

each other after graduation was directly related to how much time had gone by,

Joe:

so, Six months after college, we would text each other every couple weeks.

Joe:

Six years after college, it was the high holidays.

Joe:

And now it's, hey, remember that time in college we did that thing?

Joe:

So I wish I'd stayed in touch with her and, you know, that group

Joe:

of people a little bit better.

Danny:

And what do you find?

Danny:

Is it because you're in different, like, states or cities, etc?

Danny:

Just different paths?

Danny:

Or what do you think's the main reason for that?

Joe:

Yeah, I mean, we live So, I mean, that particular group of

Joe:

friends and I, we live all over now.

Joe:

But Kat specifically, she, you know, she lives probably

Joe:

five or so hours away from me.

Joe:

We both have.

Joe:

Three small children, as a, as a matter of fact and, you know, we,

Joe:

we both have pretty busy careers.

Joe:

And so you know, if we lived closer to each other, we'd probably see

Joe:

each other more often, but, you know, with, with the kids and the jobs and.

Joe:

The distance makes it hard.

Danny:

Did you ever do that thing, I know like you see it on TV shows and movies

Danny:

all the time, where you're on Facebook I'm going to use Facebook because that's

Danny:

the big connector, obviously, pretty much everybody on the planet's on that.

Danny:

Do you ever see someone from your old school, college, workplace, and they've

Danny:

taken a completely different path in life from what you might have expected that.

Danny:

When you knew them, you

Danny:

ever

Danny:

see that?

Joe:

Oh, absolutely.

Joe:

I don't, I don't mind.

Joe:

I won't name her specifically, but you'll know who I'm who if I'm talking about

Joe:

her, but I had a friend in college who was, she was like a big hippie, like

Joe:

kind of flower child type of person.

Joe:

Go with the flow.

Joe:

And at our five year College reunion, I, we were talking and

Joe:

I'm like, so what do you do?

Joe:

She's like, Oh, I'm a lawyer now.

Joe:

I'm like, you're a lawyer now?

Joe:

I'm like, five years ago, me wouldn't believe that.

Joe:

She's like, five years ago, me wouldn't believe it either.

Danny:

Well, and that's, that's almost like the complete

Danny:

opposite of what you'd expect.

Danny:

you know, someone that's following the hippie lifestyle to do, especially,

Danny:

I mean, a moving to corporate, but I guess moving to being a lawyer,

Danny:

was she a prosecutor or defender?

Joe:

You know, at this point I forget, I, you know, I, it felt like, I

Joe:

feel like she was in public defense.

Joe:

And so that, that makes like a little bit more sense, but yeah,

Joe:

it was, it was really shocked.

Joe:

And I mean, you know, like people go through, something I have a problem with

Joe:

is, The person I knew at that stage of their life is who they are today, and

Joe:

that is almost, it should never be the case, and it is almost never the case.

Danny:

And that's true, like, I mean, they do say you can choose your friends, right?

Danny:

You can't choose family, you choose friends, and then you choose who, I guess,

Danny:

well, I guess you don't always have the choice as to who stays in your life,

Danny:

but, as you mentioned, at least you can still stay connected, I mean, we've got

Danny:

this great thing called internet that allows us to, You know, to keep connected.

Danny:

And who knows, because, you know, obviously you and Kat's got the similar

Danny:

life with the, the kids, et cetera.

Danny:

But maybe that's something that's a bucket list, you know, let's

Danny:

spend a summer just, you know, re reconnecting with either at yours or

Danny:

theirs or vice versa or in between.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

Yeah, absolutely.

Danny:

I love that.

Danny:

Nice.

Danny:

Okay.

Danny:

So that's question one.

Danny:

That's a nice one to start off with.

Danny:

Let's see what we got for question two.

Danny:

Ooh, okay.

Danny:

Interesting.

Danny:

All right, Joe, question two, spontaneity or stability.

Joe:

The adventurous people pleaser person in me wants to say spontaneity,

Joe:

but the responsible business owning dad in me wants to say stability.

Joe:

So I'm going to go with stability at this point in my life.

Joe:

You know, 38 I'll be 39 years old.

Danny:

You're just a kid, mate.

Joe:

But you know, got school tuition and house and things like that.

Joe:

Of course, I am a small business owner, right?

Joe:

So like how, like how much stability Am I really leaning into here?

Joe:

But I like the idea of knowing a little bit.

Joe:

At least a little bit of what I'm going into.

Joe:

And I feel like that's more the side of stability, right?

Joe:

Spontaneity is like, hey, let's just do this random thing today.

Joe:

And I'm like, can I do this random thing today?

Joe:

I could do that in college.

Joe:

I can't do that today though.

Danny:

Well, okay, so let's go, let's go with a bonus.

Danny:

Question on top of this then.

Danny:

This isn't question three, this is like 2.a1654, whatever you want to call it.

Danny:

Let's get into the pie equations almost.

Danny:

Okay, so obviously stability makes complete sense as you mentioned.

Danny:

You've got the business to run, you've got bills to pay, family to feed, etc.

Danny:

So completely 100 percent get that.

Danny:

If you could do one single spontaneous thing.

Danny:

Anything at all, and it doesn't impact your job, your life, etc.

Danny:

You just do something really, you know, out of the world that would

Danny:

normally be associated with you.

Danny:

What would it be?

Joe:

Ooh, Just to put you on the spot.

Joe:

Anything in the world I could do that maybe wouldn't So I love traveling,

Joe:

so I feel like I'm not going to give the coolest answer, but I

Joe:

would take my wife to New Zealand.

Joe:

We've been, you know, we went to Italy for our honeymoon, we've both been to Ireland.

Joe:

And I do want to make it to Scotland to have Lagavulin straight from the

Joe:

source, but she's a huge Lord of the Rings fan and so, and I've always

Joe:

wanted to be on that side of the world.

Joe:

So I think if, if we could, we would spontaneously take a trip to New Zealand.

Danny:

And like, and they've got Hobbiton there, right?

Danny:

They've like, they've recreated Hobbiton essentially and it's actually there.

Joe:

Yeah, yeah.

Joe:

It was shot in New Zealand.

Joe:

So they have all sorts of movie era sets and, and museum esque stuff over there.

Joe:

That would be cool.

Danny:

Okay, so there you go, bucket list.

Danny:

Yeah.

Danny:

We're off to New Zealand.

Danny:

Alrighty, nice one.

Danny:

Moving swiftly along.

Danny:

We're getting there fairly quickly today, but I like it though, I like it.

Danny:

Alright then.

Danny:

Okay, I'm looking forward to this for some strange reason.

Danny:

Question number three.

Danny:

Would you rather be trapped in an elevator full of men with B.

Danny:

O.

Danny:

and body odour or three soaking wet dogs?

Joe:

I am famously not a dog person.

Joe:

I'm not an animal person at all.

Joe:

Actually.

Joe:

I don't like animals.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

I have allergies.

Joe:

Never really grew up with them.

Joe:

I'm, I always say like, you don't know what you're thinking.

Joe:

Like you have like the Chandler Bing answer, right?

Joe:

Of why he doesn't like dogs, but three, like the, the smell of wet dog.

Joe:

Does not bother me nearly as much as people who stink.

Joe:

Like I knew, I knew somebody in a previous life who was a close talker

Joe:

who also had like intense halitosis.

Joe:

And like, like close, like, he would like grab my head and like say something

Joe:

real close to me and I'm like, bro, you need a mint, like, so I will, even though

Joe:

I don't like animals, I will pick the three soaked dogs because I, I would

Joe:

prefer that smell versus men with B.

Joe:

O.

Danny:

And I always feel like, I mean, wet dogs don't really smell that bad, you

Danny:

know, and I'm thinking we've got two dogs.

Danny:

That being said, our two dogs are Chinese Crested, so they're pretty much hairless.

Danny:

They've only got hair on their face, their tail, and a little bit on their paws.

Danny:

That's it.

Danny:

The rest of them, they're naked, and we got these because my wife suffers

Danny:

from allergies, so these dogs are hypoallergenic, so it was perfect, but

Danny:

when we bathe, okay, when we bathe them, that's not a great example, because then

Danny:

they smell nice and clean, before we bathe them, they don't smell bad, and

Danny:

when they're out in the rain or whatever, maybe it's because they don't have hair,

Danny:

Even dogs that, like, my wife's mum's got a big dog, and even that doesn't

Danny:

smell bad, bad, at least, when it's wet.

Danny:

So it's, like you say, I can't think of three wet dogs being anywhere

Danny:

as bad as, especially men would be, or women, I feel, don't often have.

Danny:

But I had to be all problems not as much as men for some reason, whether it's the

Danny:

pheromones, whatever it is, it's a nice.

Danny:

Mm hmm.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

Testosterone is probably very smelly.

Danny:

Oh yeah.

Danny:

Yeah.

Danny:

I know.

Danny:

Like to your example, I worked before I like moved into

Danny:

sort of a a different career.

Danny:

I used to work in a knitwear mill back in Scotland.

Danny:

That was my very first job after leaving school.

Danny:

And that's where you make, you know, sweaters and jerseys, et

Danny:

cetera, and you hand make them.

Danny:

And we used to work in a knitwear mill in the summer.

Danny:

It got really, really stinky hot.

Danny:

There was no AC back then.

Danny:

So it was really hot.

Danny:

And we were a couple of guys that had really bad issues

Danny:

and they tried to hide it.

Danny:

Fair play to them.

Danny:

They tried to hide it with lots of showers, lots of soap, and body spray,

Danny:

but because they were lathering all that stuff on and then that was on

Danny:

top of the BO that was fighting back through again, that just, I, I still

Danny:

can vividly remember that smell today.

Joe:

Yeah, sounds like they needed like prescription deodorant, right?

Joe:

So yeah, I guess the other side of this question is not the smell, but it's like

Joe:

three soaked dogs will probably be like shaking themselves off and like, again, I

Joe:

don't know, like being, being wet in dry clothing doesn't really bother me also.

Joe:

Okay.

Joe:

Like, I know I keep bringing up my kids, but like, you know, when I'm out and about

Joe:

or my, my youngest still wears diapers.

Joe:

So like.

Joe:

You know, I get like foreign substances on my hands that I kind of have to

Joe:

deal with so like that maybe it's just like I'm Especially sensitive to

Joe:

smells like I can tell if someone's smoking outside like several.

Joe:

I don't I was gonna say blocks Outside of eyesight, right?

Joe:

Like if someone is smoking in the vicinity, even if they're not next to me

Joe:

Like I'll smell it and I smoke cigars.

Joe:

So I'm also like aware of that hypocrisy so like maybe it's just like

Joe:

You Really smelly people are like, that is definitely low on my list.

Joe:

I would rather like dogs like shaking off and getting me all wet and like smelling

Joe:

like a wet dog way more than like really stinky men, like really stinky men.

Joe:

Right.

Danny:

And when you, when you said that, I thought you were going

Danny:

to go somewhere else with that.

Danny:

When you said, I'd rather have dogs, you know, Oh, where are we going here?

Danny:

Cause now that's a different question.

Danny:

That's a different question.

Danny:

So I guess then, so I, and I, I completely, I think I one hundred

Danny:

percent agree with you here, mate.

Danny:

I'm curious, if you're with someone so whether you're in a work situation, et

Danny:

cetera, and someone's got that bad B.

Danny:

O., do you let them know gently?

Danny:

Do you ignore it and let it go?

Danny:

What would be your approach there?

Joe:

I'd probably let it go unless it was like a friend, like if it was like a

Joe:

friend and we're like getting ready to go out maybe or something, I'd be like hey,

Joe:

did you like poop your pants or something?

Joe:

Like you smell terrible.

Joe:

Definitely my brothers.

Joe:

But if it was like, if we're already out.

Joe:

Almost definitely no, right, because at that point, I don't know, my, my wife

Joe:

and like a lot of her friends like tend to have deodorant on them, but like my

Joe:

wife's also a nurse, so like she's running around, I, I don't know any guys who carry

Joe:

deodorant on them, and so like, certainly if it's a guy friend, like probably

Joe:

not able to do anything about that, so like why make them self conscious.

Danny:

So

Danny:

what we're saying here is, man,

Danny:

smarten up, you guys stink, we stink.

Danny:

Let's not say you guys, we stink.

Joe:

Yes,

Joe:

yeah, we stink, yeah, right?

Joe:

Give yourself a sniff test, right?

Joe:

If I'm going out on a date, I reapply, like with my wife,

Joe:

I reapply deodorant, right?

Joe:

Like, even though I do maybe one of the least physically strenuous jobs

Joe:

on the planet, I'm still like, hey, I was just living, so I'm gonna freshen

Joe:

up a little bit before I go out.

Danny:

Well, that's, I mean, and that's the thing, I mean, obviously

Danny:

you're in the creator space, so you've got a lot of lights, etc.

Danny:

that are going on, you know, in your office, so that can get fairly

Danny:

warm anyway, even though you might not be doing anything strenuous, it

Danny:

can get warm, so yeah, I hear you.

Danny:

So, like we say, smarten up, not smarten up, freshen up, man, let's do this.

Danny:

Freshen up, I love it.

Danny:

Freshen up.

Danny:

Alrighty, question number four, moving on.

Danny:

We're eight, we're approaching 80 percent through here, all good stuff.

Danny:

Yeah.

Danny:

Okay, let's find out what kind of healthy or non healthy person you are, Joe.

Danny:

What's in your fridge right now?

Joe:

So this is really good, right?

Joe:

I, cause the fridge is stuff that I've purchased from the grocery store and

Joe:

then stuff my wife has selected to buy.

Joe:

And I'll just say right now, the healthy stuff is all for my wife

Joe:

and the not healthy stuff is for me.

Joe:

So in our fridge right now, we're in a farm share our Chester County,

Joe:

Pennsylvania, famously, I guess, or at least locally, famously.

Joe:

Lots of farm land.

Joe:

We are the number one exporter of mushrooms.

Joe:

And so we know a lot of people with farms are part of a farm share.

Joe:

So we've got like some onions, some lettuce, carrots.

Joe:

We have eggs, fresh eggs, right from the chicken.

Joe:

And that's all part of the farm share that my wife signed us up for.

Joe:

In the other part of the fridge, we have.

Joe:

An assortment of frozen food that could easily be thrown in the oven to eat.

Joe:

So tortellini, pizza bagels, pierogies and then this rebel

Joe:

ice cream that is very low carb.

Joe:

Because even though I just rattled off a bunch of things, I have type 2 diabetes.

Joe:

And so I, I try to draw the line at sweets, right?

Joe:

I'm Italian, so I have a hard time completely cutting out pasta.

Joe:

But I, I will draw the line at sweets.

Joe:

And so Rebel ice cream, great alternative, like, keto friendly, low carb ice cream.

Danny:

And, so have you always been type 2 diabetes, or did

Danny:

that come in later in life?

Joe:

I was diagnosed about three years ago.

Joe:

But we've like, I, I was a lock for this.

Joe:

Both of my parents have type two, type two, my, my maternal grandmother had type

Joe:

two, our family dog had type two diabetes.

Joe:

So like I was, not that that's genetically related, but it's definitely

Joe:

like lifestyle related, I'm sure.

Joe:

So I was like pretty much a lock.

Joe:

It's under, it's under good control and so but yeah, I found out a few

Joe:

years ago, but I've known for a while this is probably in my future.

Joe:

And

Danny:

I'm guessing because it's such a new, you know, diagnosis, is

Danny:

there anything you'd mention, you know, what you have in your fridge,

Danny:

what your wife gets, what you get?

Danny:

And that you do have that, that special ice cream because obviously

Danny:

ice cream, everybody wants ice cream, you know, but is there something that

Danny:

you can't have anymore that you did have prior to three years ago that you

Danny:

really,

Joe:

really miss?

Joe:

Regular soda.

Joe:

Which is probably what got me into the situation in the first place, right?

Joe:

So, I've loosened up since the diagnosis, but like, when I was first

Joe:

diagnosed I spoke to a nutritionist who was like, Alright, because of

Joe:

your situation, you should have like, 40 carbs, 40 to 50 carbs per meal,

Joe:

and then 15 to 20 carbs per snack.

Joe:

And so I was like, all right, well, if I'm eating like salmon, right.

Joe:

For dinner, I'm only eating like salmon and asparagus or something.

Joe:

There's no carbs in that.

Joe:

I could probably have a can of regular Coke, right?

Joe:

Nope.

Joe:

42 carbs in a can.

Joe:

12 ounces of regular coke.

Joe:

So once I figured that out, I was like, all right, like, I live in a world

Joe:

where not only can I easily get my blood sugar at any point during the day,

Joe:

but there's also lots of alternatives.

Joe:

So like, Coke Zero?

Joe:

pretty close.

Joe:

Diet Dr.

Joe:

Pepper, pretty close.

Joe:

And so I do miss the taste of especially cherry Coke, but there are enough

Joe:

close enough alternatives that I'm, I'm not down in the dumps about it.

Joe:

You know, I guess if you really love food, you'll get that statement.

Joe:

If you don't care about food, you'd be like, why would you ever

Joe:

be down in the dumps about food?

Danny:

Oh, no, I hear you.

Danny:

I'm a huge foodie.

Danny:

I mean, I love cooking.

Danny:

I find it really therapeutic.

Danny:

And just messing about with flavours.

Danny:

Oh, is this going to work?

Danny:

Let's try it.

Danny:

If it doesn't, okay, I'm not doing that again.

Danny:

But at least you tried it, right?

Danny:

It's just that experimentation.

Joe:

Yeah, I do that with cocktails.

Joe:

I love making cocktails.

Danny:

Oh, I'll have to manoeuvre my way out that way sometime at a

Danny:

podcast conference or something.

Danny:

Absolutely.

Danny:

Sounds like a plan.

Danny:

So, and obviously because it is a new I'm guessing, how

Danny:

old are your kids again, Joep?

Danny:

You mentioned you've got a little one.

Joe:

Yeah,

Joe:

seven,

Joe:

four and two and a half.

Danny:

And do they work around your diabetes?

Danny:

Do they still have what they want?

Joe:

Yeah, yeah.

Joe:

I was I'm very much a, you know, I did this to myself.

Joe:

It's my personal responsibility.

Joe:

You know, it's like there are some people who are like, Oh, I know you're not

Joe:

drinking, so I'm not going to get a drink.

Joe:

I would never impose that on other people, right?

Joe:

Like, Oh, sorry, I'm getting dessert.

Joe:

No, no, no, no.

Joe:

You live a largely healthy life and you got a salad for dinner and

Joe:

I got like a hamburger for dinner.

Joe:

So like, don't be sad for me.

Joe:

Right.

Joe:

So no, I, we, they get their treats after dinner.

Joe:

I want to reign that in a little bit.

Joe:

I'm like, I, I get like, they're, they're still young and their metabolism is

Joe:

different and they're still growing.

Joe:

But I definitely don't want them to have the bad habits that I had.

Joe:

So like, they, even my oldest, like, hasn't had a regular soda yet.

Joe:

Because when I, like, I had it too early, and like, that's all we, like, my dad

Joe:

doesn't drink water, like, that's a true, that's not an exaggeration, like, and

Joe:

so, thankfully after I started dating Erin, I, my, my now wife, I started

Joe:

drinking more water, I tell people I'd be dead without her, but so, like, we

Joe:

grew up in a household, we didn't grow up in a healthy habits household, and

Joe:

I want to change that for my kids.

Danny:

And that's the thing, right, you always want to do differently

Danny:

from what your parents did with you, not that your parents ever did a bad

Danny:

thing or anything, but you always, I feel as a, as a child you always want

Danny:

to do things differently from how you perceive maybe your parents raised

Danny:

you, and I tend to think you still do

Danny:

stuff that your parents did anyway.

Joe:

Oh my gosh, I'm like a carbon.

Joe:

I mean, like, I'm not kidding anybody.

Joe:

I'm a carbon copy of my old man.

Joe:

Like, the only difference between my dad and me is I read more books than he does.

Joe:

Which is like, the, like, that's a purely academic thing and I probably

Joe:

got that from my, my mom, right?

Joe:

Because my mom loves reading.

Joe:

But other than that, like, We, we have the same mannerisms, we're short with

Joe:

our temper in the same sort of way and the same sort of things bother us.

Joe:

But yeah, my, my parents did a good job, but it was the eighties,

Joe:

nineties, things were different, right?

Joe:

Like way more processed food was coming out.

Joe:

My mom was working, right?

Joe:

Cause she had four, like my parents had four boys that they had to

Joe:

feed, which is an impossible task when they're all teenagers.

Joe:

And so you know, we would go for the easy and the fun thing

Joe:

and we do the same thing.

Joe:

It's just, we live 30, 20 or 30 years on.

Joe:

There's a lot more healthy, easy food out there.

Danny:

And I'm curious what our kids will have in 30 years time.

Danny:

Will they still have nice food to have?

Danny:

Will it be just these little cubes?

Joe:

Yeah, right.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

Little bouillon, like the impossible bouillon cube, right?

Joe:

Or it's like, it tastes like a steak dinner, but it's not.

Joe:

Made from water or something.

Danny:

Exactly.

Danny:

Good luck to them.

Danny:

I'm not I'm hoping Well, you know what?

Danny:

30 years time, maybe I'll still be alive.

Danny:

Maybe not.

Danny:

But I'm not worried if I'm dead because I'm missing that food.

Danny:

I will take that as a trade.

Danny:

Yeah, absolutely.

Danny:

Alrighty, Joe.

Danny:

We're almost at the end here.

Danny:

I feel like Sean, Sean Evans on Now We Feast, you know, he's like, Oh,

Danny:

yeah, we're under the last dab here.

Danny:

Yeah.

Danny:

Got the same kind of hair as Sean Evans.

Danny:

I think he's a little bit balder than me, but we'll see.

Danny:

Anywho, so yeah, we're on to question five.

Danny:

So let's have a look at this and let's reel this one in.

Danny:

Okay, then.

Danny:

Now, this will tie back a little bit to your spontaneity or, you

Danny:

know, Whatever that question was.

Danny:

Spontaneity or stability.

Danny:

That was it.

Danny:

Yep.

Danny:

So question five.

Danny:

Here we go.

Danny:

What's the craziest or most out of character thing you've ever done?

Joe:

Oh, man.

Joe:

Okay, I people who have heard all of, no, that's probably not the

Joe:

most, I was like protecting a friend.

Joe:

Okay, the most out of character thing for me probably, in my

Joe:

early 20s and stupid, mostly.

Joe:

But I try not to be outwardly mean to people who who don't deserve it.

Joe:

And I wrote a very mean blog post about somebody.

Joe:

It was like, it was, I like cringe just thinking about it.

Joe:

And then they read it and confronted me twice about it.

Joe:

And I doubled down both times.

Joe:

Like I never apologized.

Joe:

And I think about it now.

Joe:

And it's just like, I hate that.

Joe:

Like, I don't, I don't have a lot of regrets.

Joe:

I regret.

Joe:

writing it, and I regret the way I handled it.

Joe:

And like, sure, stupid 18 to 20 year old guy who's like not thinking

Joe:

about long term ramifications, but in other situations, I'm direct and

Joe:

I will, I'm willing to admit when I'm wrong and I just was neither

Joe:

of those things in that situation.

Joe:

So something I think about every few months and not, I'm not like haunted by

Joe:

it, but I do think about it sometimes.

Joe:

And I'm just like, man, I was an idiot.

Joe:

Like every, every time I think about it.

Joe:

And

Danny:

like you say, I mean, you, you were young and we've all done silly things.

Danny:

I'm curious, E, did you ever?

Danny:

Clear the air after these two times and then I guess B maybe, is there anything

Danny:

in that you find specific that makes you think of that times that just pop

Danny:

into your, your head from nowhere?

Joe:

Yeah, that's like the, that's like the horrible thing about

Joe:

just random thoughts, right?

Joe:

Is it'll just like pop in from time to time or like, you know, and when I'm

Joe:

even prompted like this and I thought about it, it like doesn't, it's when it

Joe:

just like creeps in and I'm like Yeah.

Joe:

We never cleared the air and it's part of me is because so like it upset this person

Joe:

so much and they've more or less like disavowed themselves of me that I worry

Joe:

that just like sliding in and like my very like existence will upset this person,

Joe:

you know and so, you know, I feel like it's a very let sleeping dogs lie thing.

Joe:

Now, if, if, you know, If they're listening they know I don't know.

Joe:

You know, but if they are they know exactly who they are.

Joe:

And I, I do regret the way I acted because it's not.

Joe:

It's not me.

Joe:

It wasn't me then.

Joe:

It's definitely not me now.

Danny:

Well, I think that's part of human growth though, right?

Danny:

We, we do things and it's, it's as we get older and we see, you know,

Danny:

why it wasn't the right thing to do.

Danny:

And then we try, you know, espouse that to our kids and explain, okay,

Danny:

don't ever do anything like this because it's wrong and explain why.

Danny:

Right.

Danny:

So it's it's not nice because obviously, as you mentioned, it ruined a

Danny:

friendship and it's, it's hurt someone.

Danny:

But if it's a learning thing, I feel it's.

Danny:

Not good, because that's the wrong word, but it's good for our personal

Danny:

growth and to, we can try our best to make it right, but as you mentioned,

Danny:

at some stage we just have to step back and say, okay, I hurt that person

Danny:

and You know, I'll let them be now.

Joe:

Yeah, right.

Joe:

And if I ever run into this person in the street, it'll be the first thing I say.

Joe:

Until then, if they have not thought about me and never think about me again, then

Joe:

that's, that's perfectly fine as well.

Danny:

That's a good way,

Danny:

that's a good way to think about it, I think.

Danny:

Alrighty, so we made it.

Danny:

We got through the five questions.

Joe:

We got real deep there.

Joe:

I don't usually get this deep.

Joe:

I don't usually get that deep.

Danny:

Well, this is what I like about this, this format.

Danny:

I mean, as I mentioned, we don't know what the questions are.

Danny:

And it kind of, it doesn't force you, but I think it encourages you to, to

Danny:

maybe answer, you know, something that you hadn't thought of for a while.

Danny:

So it's, and I like the fact that it can be, one minute it can be something silly.

Danny:

You know about B.

Danny:

O.

Danny:

and dogs in an elevator, and then the next thing would be something like that.

Danny:

So, yeah, I appreciate you sharing with that.

Danny:

Yeah, of course, of course.

Danny:

And I think, in fairness, this is the part of the show that it's fair

Danny:

to the guests who've put themselves out there and open up, honestly

Danny:

to myself and you, the listener.

Danny:

I think it's only fair to allow Joe the random question he can throw my way.

Joe:

Well, it's not gonna be as deep as that.

Joe:

I was thinking about this.

Joe:

It's also, I guess it's not really random either for those who don't have

Joe:

access to the video, I'm currently wearing an Obi Wan Kenobi shirt.

Joe:

I see Boba Fett in the background, and I know Danny that you're

Joe:

a Star Wars fan, right?

Joe:

And so my question is, who would you want to be your master?

Joe:

in all of Star Wars and the extended universe.

Joe:

So I was going to say Jedi Master, but I don't want to assume you're

Joe:

picking the light side, right?

Joe:

So like who, whose apprentice do you most want to be in all of Star

Joe:

Wars and the extended universe?

Danny:

Oh,

Joe:

that's a really good one.

Danny:

And there's so many as well.

Danny:

I mean, I'm, I'm a huge Star Wars fan, but I'm not, Like one of the ones that

Danny:

are super into every aspect and faucet of the, the Lord behind it and everything.

Danny:

I know Mark, my colleague, you know, Mark, Mark Asquith and Garry Aylott

Danny:

they would know so much more than me.

Danny:

Because that's, that's a thing, right?

Danny:

That they have their own podcast about Star Wars.

Danny:

Yeah.

Danny:

So.

Danny:

I, I think of the, the books I've read and of the shows and the movies, et

Danny:

cetera, I'd probably go with Kanan Jarrus, Kanan Jarrus from Rebels.

Danny:

If you watch the Rebels TV show, you'll know who he is.

Danny:

He may have appeared in comics beforehand.

Danny:

I'm not sure, but obviously that's where.

Danny:

Rebels is where I got to know him and he's, he's been name dropped

Danny:

in the Ahsoka, which I thought was awesome because that tied

Danny:

these two universes together.

Joe:

He also, he also makes a little cameo in Bad Batch.

Danny:

Yes, he does.

Danny:

Yes.

Danny:

Right at the start, I believe, right?

Danny:

Isn't he the kid that runs off or something?

Danny:

He's the kid.

Danny:

Yep.

Danny:

Yep.

Danny:

Yeah, I forgot about that.

Danny:

Good, good one.

Danny:

I forgot.

Danny:

Yeah, I don't know.

Danny:

I feel he's the most pure, like how he taught Ezra.

Danny:

You know, he took Ezra on board and taught Ezra.

Danny:

And how he, and I don't want to give any spoilers away for anyone

Danny:

that's not watched Rebels, but might want to watch it to catch up on.

Danny:

You know, the backstory to Ahsoka and, you know, all that stuff,

Danny:

but how he did what he did at an important time that completely

Danny:

changed the direction of the show.

Danny:

So yeah, I would say Ken, and I'm going to get his name wrong, so I please, I know

Danny:

what the Star Wars fans can be like, I'm just going to unline it at the minute.

Danny:

Oof, it's, it's, it's all Wild West.

Danny:

Showdown over there at the minute.

Danny:

But yeah, Kanan Jarrus, that'd be my, my master I feel.

Danny:

What about you?

Danny:

I'm going to ping it back to you, I think.

Joe:

Oh so I, I love that answer.

Joe:

Cause I don't think you would hear it a lot, but yeah, Kanan's great.

Joe:

I'm, I mean, I love Obi Wan, but I feel like that's such a boring answer,

Joe:

but I don't, I think now that the show is out, this answer is also going to

Joe:

be boring, but I love Ahsoka Tano.

Joe:

I think she's great.

Joe:

I think she has like the, you know, the the spontaneity of Anakin, right.

Joe:

With a little bit of like the, the wisdom and stability of, of Obi Wan.

Joe:

And so she's not afraid to do the right thing, but she, you know, She acts

Joe:

prudent, and much like a self employed person, she realized that she wanted

Joe:

to continue her practice, but could not live within the co Well, I guess I'm,

Joe:

like, really spoiling Clone Wars here.

Joe:

But Of the Jedi order.

Joe:

So really, I, you know, I, I really liked that about her and like, I read

Joe:

her the book about her and it was just really, really great character.

Joe:

So that's, that's who I'd pick.

Danny:

I like it.

Danny:

That's a good one.

Danny:

And the show, I thought Rosario Dawson nailed that.

Danny:

Yeah.

Danny:

And even when she appeared in the Mandalorian, you know, I thought she

Danny:

nailed that character introduction.

Danny:

So it'll be interesting to see where season two, hopefully they're

Danny:

going to have it, where that goes.

Joe:

This is the thing I like about Ahsoka, right?

Joe:

Cause like, when we're introduced to Ahsoka in the first episode of Clone

Joe:

Wars, which was like a Clone Wars movie she was like 14 and very immature.

Joe:

And then like, we see her fast forward 50 or so years later, you know, and she

Joe:

is There's a lot of character development for us to witness, which is great.

Danny:

Yeah, I'm 100%.

Danny:

And I know they're drawn about doing a like Dave Filoni's on about

Danny:

bringing all these disparate universes together, like all the shows together.

Danny:

So the Rebels Era, Ahsoka, Thrawn.

Danny:

Bad Batch, everything's leading up to this big Mandalorian, this big movie event,

Danny:

you know, in a couple of years time.

Danny:

So I'll be curious to see what that is.

Joe:

Yeah, super exciting.

Joe:

I love that we got to see on screen Thrawn.

Joe:

Or like real life Thrawn, I guess.

Danny:

Yeah, real life on screen, we'll go with both.

Danny:

Live action.

Danny:

Live action, that's the word.

Danny:

Live action.

Danny:

And we're not cutting that out.

Danny:

We're going to let Joe sound really, you know, off the chart

Danny:

when he's trying to describe what an animation to live action is called.

Joe:

That's good.

Joe:

People, people should see that.

Joe:

You know, it's I know it's hard to believe, but I'm

Joe:

not brilliant all the time.

Danny:

So Joe, I really appreciate you coming on today's episode and

Danny:

opening up and talking to me about the five questions that you were asked.

Danny:

For people that want to find out what you do from a work point of view, podcast

Danny:

point of view, or just in life in general.

Danny:

Where's the best place to connect and find you?

Joe:

I think casabona.

Joe:

org is the place.

Joe:

You know, usually I come on these shows, I have like a landing page set

Joe:

up, but you know, this was a really good, casual kind of open conversation.

Joe:

Casabona.

Joe:

org has been my blog since two thousand and two.

Joe:

And so you can go there and, and.

Joe:

It's been cleaned up, obviously.

Joe:

But yeah, there's a lot of stuff about me there.

Joe:

And then I'm on almost every social network as Jay Casabona, which

Joe:

is also linked over at casabona.

Joe:

org.

Danny:

That makes it nice and easy.

Danny:

And speaking of links, I'll be sure to leave the link to

Danny:

that in the old show notes.

Danny:

So whatever app you're listed on, make sure to check that out.

Danny:

And I'll link that right over to Joe's site.

Danny:

So, Joe, again, thanks so much for being here today.

Joe:

Thanks for having me.

Joe:

This was so much fun.

Danny:

Thanks for listening to five Random Questions.

Danny:

If you enjoyed this week's episode, be sure to follow for three on the

Danny:

app you're currently listening on or online at fiverandomquestions.com.

Danny:

And if you feel like leaving the review well that'd make me happy in that time.

Danny:

I met Darth Vader.

Danny:

At my local supermarket, because yes, that's what Darth Vader does.

Danny:

Signs autographs for 13-year-old boys at local supermarkets.

Danny:

So it's obviously the real Darth Vader, and I'm not taking any other answer.

Danny:

But seriously, if you got to live with you for the show, it'd

Danny:

make my day until the next time.

Danny:

Keep asking those questions.

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