Candy. It's the holidays. Who doesn't love candy?
We do! We even wrote a candy book once. We're Bruce Weinstein & Mark Scarbrough, authors of three dozen cookbooks (and counting!). This is our podcast about food and cooking. Thanks for coming along with us!
Here are the segments for this episode of COOKING WITH BRUCE & MARK:
[01:01] Our one-minute cooking tip: serve appetizers to keep people out of the kitchen.
[03:00] Our holiday candy memories! Divinity to toffee, cut candy to French nougat. And listen to Mark make a mistake! Divinity is made with corn syrup, not corn starch!
[21:43] What’s making us happy in food this week? Pretzels with dried cranberries & turkey rice soup!
Hey, I'm Bruce Weinstein, and this is the podcast
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:Cooking with Bruce and Mark.
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:And I'm Mark Scarborough, and together
with Bruce, we have written three dozen
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:cookbooks, plus all sorts of cookbooks
for celebrities, but we can't really talk
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:about those because of confidentiality
agreements, except for, uh, all of them.
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:Dr.
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:Phil, but other ones we can't talk
about, uh, and we've also been
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:contributing editors and columnists
for all the big food magazines back
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:in the day, as you probably know, but
this is our podcast about food and
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:cooking, the major passion in our life.
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:We've got a one minute cooking tip
about what to do in the holidays
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:when you're in the kitchen and
you have other people around.
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:We're going to go down a memory hole.
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:Is that what you call it?
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:Into A black pit.
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:Yeah, into candy land.
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:And talk about candy from our youth
since it is the holidays and the time
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:of year when people do indeed eat candy.
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:And we'll tell you Just this time of year.
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:Just this time of year.
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:And we'll talk about what's
making us happy in food this week.
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:So let's get started.
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:Our One Minute Cooking Tips.
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:Serve appetizers.
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:Now,
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:Mark: it seems
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:Bruce: easy, right?
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:Mark: You're talking about when
you have people in the house.
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:Yeah, when you have people
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:Bruce: Oh, no, when you're sitting alone
watching TV, serve yourself appetizers.
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:Did
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:Mark: you qualify it when
you said serve appetizers?
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:Go on, yes.
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:Okay, so most
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:Bruce: people think you put out
pre dinner snacks so that people
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:aren't drinking without eating.
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:eating something or they think
it's to whet the appetite.
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:That's not the most important part of it.
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:The most important part of appetizers
is it keeps your guests busy and
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:in another room and out of your
hair while you're in the kitchen
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:finishing up last minute things.
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:Mark: Now, I want to say this bit about
keeps your guests in another room.
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:That is your obsession and that is
written large in your obsession.
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:That is not everyone's obsession.
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:Bruce: I don't want anyone
in the kitchen with me.
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:That's you.
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:Mark: Right.
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:A lot of people would put out appetizers
on the kitchen counter and have people
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:stand around because that makes them
feel good about people being around
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:the kitchen and they're not alone.
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:Bruce has a big thing about no one
is allowed in the kitchen with him.
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:Oh, get out
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:Bruce: of my kitchen
and don't try and help
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:Mark: me.
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:See?
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:See?
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:Do not try and help me or you might have
finger cut off and that happened once.
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:Okay, so, um, but still, it is, if you're
rushing around, finishing off holiday
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:dinners of any sort, or dinners for
people of any sort, it is good to have
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:appetizers, even if you have them in the
kitchen, and you're not like Bruce and
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:you want to banish everyone to the living
room, even if you want to have And believe
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:Bruce: it or not, we live in an
open concept house, so even in
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:the living room I get to see them.
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:Mark: Okay.
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:Let me just finish my point.
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:Put out appetizers to keep people busy.
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:You know what?
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:I someday I'll finish my whole point.
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:So that is
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:Bruce: that day.
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:Mark: Yeah.
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:I don't know.
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:I didn't do it just then.
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:So I don't know.
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:Um, before we get to the next part
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:Otherwise, let's get to the main part
of this podcast episode, which is
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:a memory lane trek into Candyland.
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:I guess my first real memory of
candy at the winter holidays is
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:my great aunt, Ruth's divinity.
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:If you don't know about
divinity, I didn't know
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:Bruce: what it was
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:Mark: when we met, you didn't
know it at all what it was.
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:Divinity is a, I think, mostly a
treat from the southern part of
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:the United States where I'm from.
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:That's my guess, right?
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:It's a very It's an airy, white candy,
it doesn't have to have nuts in it, but
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:my great aunt's always had peanuts in it.
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:And isn't
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:Bruce: it an egg white, meringue
based, but it's not light and crunchy.
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:And corn syrup y.
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:It's a thick and chewy Well, corn syrup.
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:Yeah.
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:Into beaten egg whites.
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:I think it's almost like a
nougat in a way, but it's not as
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:Mark: fancy.
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:No, don't go, don't go crazy.
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:It's not a nougat.
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:It's really, I have to say that I
loved it as a kid, my great aunt.
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:Always made divinity for the Christmas
holidays, Christmas in our house.
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:And, uh, I had it recently as
an adult and wow, is it sweet.
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:You might as well just get a glucose
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:Bruce: bag
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:Mark: that they use in
hospitals and suck on it.
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:Whoa.
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:It's so sweet.
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:Some people put crushed
up peppermint in it.
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:Some people just eat it on its own,
which is just really, it's ridiculous.
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:With a shot of insulin.
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:It's, it's very sticky.
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:Um, but it's moundable.
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:All you see.
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:find it in kind of mounds.
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:Some people get fancy and shape them out.
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:My great aunt just always made little
spooned mounds of it on a tray.
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:And then it does dry out over time.
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:So you have to keep it covered
so it doesn't get a crust
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:on it, which you don't want.
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:That's divinity.
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:I can tell you another before
Bruce gets to his stuff.
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:Another memory of candy
in my childhood is fudge.
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:And my mother didn't make real fudge.
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:If you know, fudge is a
laborious process to make.
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:It's difficult.
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:It's temperature controlled.
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:It's a hard candy actually to make.
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:We wrote a candy book years
ago, the ultimate candy book.
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:And I will say, That fudge was one
of the candies that Bruce kind of
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:ran away from at first, because it's
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:Bruce: tough.
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:Well, you have to cook the chocolate
mixture to a certain temperature, then you
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:have to cool it to a certain temperature,
and there's a very small window that
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:temperature is before you beat it.
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:And you have to stop, beating it
before it totally crystallizes,
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:it's really one of those.
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:It's an
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:Mark: edge candy, and
humidity is its enemy.
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:Well, it's the enemy of divinity too.
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:Anyway, my mom never made fudge like that.
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:My mom made the cheap
shortcut microwave fudge.
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:With margarine?
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:Marshmallow fluff?
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:I think she used butter.
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:Butter, right?
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:And she did melt chocolate
chips, and then I can't remember
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:what goes into it after that.
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:But it was all made in the microwave.
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:It's much denser than real
fudge, because it's not whipped.
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:So it has this very dense,
like, almost watery texture.
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:bark like quality to it.
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:We called it fudge.
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:What do I know?
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:Uh, and my mom would make it and she
would make one batch without any nuts.
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:It's all pecans in my family.
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:We're from the south.
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:Um, one but without any nuts and then
one batch with nuts because my dad
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:didn't like not candy or picky cakes.
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:My dad didn't like nuts.
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:He likes picky eater.
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:Does he like nuts on their own
salted, but he didn't like them in any
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:candy or cake or anything like that.
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:He didn't like pecan pie,
all that kind of stuff.
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:So those are two of my big candy
memories from childhood divinity
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:and, and shortcut microwave fudge.
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:Bruce: My childhood candy
memories go back, I think, to
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:as soon as I could start eating.
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:Cause when Mark met me, my
favorite food group was candy.
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:It's true.
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:I don't know why every
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:Mark: tooth in your mouth is
drilled and implanted and crowned.
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:I have no idea.
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:Bruce: Anyway, go on.
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:In fact, even as a child, I
would hide candy under my bed.
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:My box spring had a zipped cover
on it, and I would hide candy in
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:there and I Eat candy at night.
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:And, oh, I was, this is how,
you know, I'm a Protestant.
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:I would hide money in
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:there.
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:So that's how, you know, I
was raised in a Protestant
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:Bruce: house.
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:Do go on there.
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:Candy.
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:No, it was all about candy.
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:And unlike Mark's divinity,
we had something, I don't
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:know that he knew about.
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:No, I didn't.
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:When I was growing up.
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:No.
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:One of the things that I always
remember from childhood was halva.
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:And it was something Mark
probably never heard of.
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:It was sort of like our divinity.
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:No way.
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:And it's.
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:A Middle Eastern sweet, and it is made
from sesame, and so it's sesame paste
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:with sugar, and it's cooked, and it's,
you know, almost a fudge texture.
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:Mark: There's different
textures to java, right?
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:There are people who make it, it's
almost cracky, and it's, it's harder.
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:Depends how long you cook it,
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:Bruce: yeah.
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:Uh, some people make it more chewier.
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:It can be chewy, it can be creamy.
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:But it comes like in wheels of cheese
in the store and they cut it and weigh
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:it and you can get it with nuts you can
get a plane you can get it marbled with
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:chocolate and I loved Halva and what
I didn't love my grandparents on both
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:sides always had black tins of Barton's
you Almond kisses, and I just, I don't
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:know what are Barton's almond kisses.
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:I think they were chocolate covered
almonds wrapped in the individual pieces
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:of cellophane or maybe they were almonds.
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:Oh, so this is so at Hanukkah, you
don't have to have the Christmas
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:Mark: chocolate
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:Bruce: Hershey kisses.
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:But they had Barton's all year round.
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:Now at Hanukkah, we had Plastic dreidels
filled with gelt, which is money,
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:which was chocolate coins, and it was
always the worst chocolate imaginable.
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:In fact, my guess is there wasn't
enough cocoa solids to even call them
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:chocolate, which is why they just called
it Hanukkah gelt and not chocolate gelt.
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:Okay, so Did you have the first Fruit
slices, because always at the holidays
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:we had those jellied fruit slices too.
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:And I didn't like the white ring at the
bottom, and I only liked the middle.
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:So I would take a bite out of
the middle and leave the rind.
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:No, I'd throw them away because my
grandmother would be furious if she knew
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:that I was eating No, we didn't have that.
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:What
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:Mark: we had is two.
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:Cut candy, and a lot of people don't
know what cut candy is, it's the rolled
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:candy, well they make it, and roll
it into long, thin, narrow tubes, and
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:there's always a little design in the
center of it, it's hard candy, it's
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:sometimes got a poinsettia, or a flower,
or a Christmas tree, or stuff like
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:that in the center, and if you know cut
Candy, you know that it's put out at
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:Christmas and by New Year's, it's become
one solid lump that you have to chip
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:out of the candy dish because it all
sticks together in the humidity and in
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:the changing temperatures in the house.
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:And then it just becomes
this giant wad of sugar.
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:occur in little tube forms that you're
chipping out with a knife or a fork.
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:Don't break the candy dish.
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:I can still hear them.
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:One of the things I remember from
childhood that my grandmother would
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:make, and I wanted to like because
they all liked it and I didn't like
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:it, is something that I think that
most people don't even know what
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:it is anymore and that's I still
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:Bruce: don't know what it is.
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:We've been together 28 years
and I still don't know it.
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:You made it for the candy book.
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:Yeah, because I bought
whorehound flavoring.
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:Well, that's how you do it.
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:I know, but I still don't
know what it tastes like.
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:Well, it's
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:a whorehound candy.
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:It's really from the 19th century and
my grandpa What flavor is whorehound?
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:That sounds really horrible.
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:I know,
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:Bruce: it sounds like a I don't know.
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:Mark: It's not W H O R E.
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:It's H O R E.
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:Horehand.
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:Um, it's a medicinal flavor.
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:And it has a very, um, Medicinally,
if you like bitters like, uh,
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:Amaro's, you might like Horhound.
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:It's that old world
bitter flavor in candy.
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:Very, like, gentian, and, uh,
you got flavors that are, like,
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:down at the bottom of gin.
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:It's all sitting down there in Whorehound,
I think in the original days, let's
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:say, back in the day, even before my
grandmother's, we're talking the 19th
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:century, it was considered medicinal.
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:Probably a cough
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:Bruce: drop,
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:Mark: yeah.
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:Yeah, suck on a Whorehound candy
and clear up your sore throat.
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:Bruce: Cough drops, that was from
childhood too, I would bring that.
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:boxes and boxes of the Pine
Brothers cough drops, where those
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:were the sort of semi hard ones,
and I would eat them all day long.
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:Didn't you get in trouble at school
for eating too many cough drops?
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:The only time
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:Mark: I got sent to detention is I
had a box of Luden's cough drops,
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:and I was I was eating them in
class one after the other and then
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:passing them around to friends around
me and I got in trouble over it.
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:It was a whole thing.
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:I love that you got in trouble
because of cough drops.
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:Passing them around.
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:I think one of my favorite, uh,
candy memories from the holidays
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:is when we lived in Manhattan.
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:And we would walk from our apartment in
Chelsea down to Greenwich Village because
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:we sang with the nation's favorite band.
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:First, Gay and Lesbian Chorale, in
fact, I was president of the board of
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:that chorale, and we sang with them.
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:So, we would walk down to Greenwich
Village, and we rehearsed at the
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:village school down there, uh,
on, I don't remember, Tuesday
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:nights or something like that.
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:It's been a while.
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:It's been, what, 18 years
since we lived in the city?
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:A long time.
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:In, in the city.
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:If you're not from New York, you
don't know the phrase, but New
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:Yorkers call New York City the city.
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:So anyway, we, we would walk
down to Greenwich Village in
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:the city and we would pass this
British sweet shop that opened up.
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:And it's the first time we
came across boiled sweets,
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:which are British hard candies.
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:And Bruce fell in love with the
rhubarb and custard boiled sweets.
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:Bruce: Rhubarb and custard
and the Cola cubes.
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:They had no flavor like cola, but
they were this little square, hard
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:sugar coated sour candy with a chewy,
chewy, hard, sticky filling in the,
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:oh gosh, the lime and chocolates.
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:What a terrible combination.
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:The Brits had, but I bought them anyway.
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:Some of those boiled sweets were
really interesting and some were
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:really disgusting, but I was just I
was just enthralled by boiled sweets.
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:You didn't get sent to detention during
choral rehearsal for eating boiled sweets.
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:And before Mark moved in with me in New
York, uh, down the street from us, and
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:I think it was still there when he moved
in, was the Williams Sonoma Outlet Center.
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:Yep.
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:Back when it was the only outlet
center they had, back when an outlet
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:center really was where all the stores
sent their unsold merchandise, not
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:like the premium outlet centers now.
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:And their returns.
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:Mark: Yep.
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:And legitimately all the returns.
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:Bruce: And I would go in.
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:Every other day because it was across the
street from the apartment and wander down
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:these aisles to see what was there and One
day I was in there in the fall and they
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:had these heavy metal candy molds these
lollipop molds And I had never thought
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:about making lollipops, but I bought some
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:Mark: yeah,
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:Bruce: and then the next year
bought some more And some more.
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:And we still have a dozen of these,
you know, like 20 pounds each.
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:They're
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:Mark: unbelievably heavy.
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:And you, you clip them
together with clips.
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:So there are two sides.
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:Let's say, imagine a Santa
face, a back and a front.
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:And you clip them all
together on both sides.
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:And then you pour the hot sugar
syrup through a little tiny opening.
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:opening at the top of the mold, and it, of
course, forms and hardens inside the mold.
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:You have to grease it, right?
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:You have to do something.
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:I always
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:Bruce: put a little oil.
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:They said you didn't need
to, but I always did.
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:We found they shattered if you didn't.
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:And then as it hardens, before
it gets too hard, you stick a
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:lollipop stick through that hole.
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:So you have a stick shoved into
Santa's head, or into Rudolph, or
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:into a nutcracker, or whatever.
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:We used to make these.
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:Mm hmm.
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:Christmas lollipops.
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:Every year, we would
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:Mark: make them.
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:We would make tons of them.
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:It was my job to stick the sticks in them.
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:That's what Bruce would allow me to do.
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:And then, we would wrap each one in an
individual plastic bag, this lollipop,
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:just then, with the stick sticking out
of the bag, and tie each one, we were
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:crazy, with ribbon, close, so we would
have hundreds of these to give away to
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:our families and friends at the holidays.
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:I remember, here's how it was.
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:Here's a memory from my childhood,
and it was the wonder at the holidays
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:at the winter holidays of chocolate
covered cherries, and they were the
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:biggest deal because you didn't.
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:I don't know.
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:I mean, maybe they were around,
but we didn't eat them at any
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:other time except at Christmas.
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:And they were those chocolate
covered, glossy cherries with the
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:white fondant stem without the stem.
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:No stem, which has meant the
fondant has melted into that creamy
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:white stuff in the bottom of them.
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:And we, I don't know, we thought
that chocolate covered cherries,
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:they were such a big deal that
people gave them as Christmas
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:gifts in my family, a box of them.
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:Bruce: They're still expensive.
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:If you go online, you can find places
like Lilac, chocolate in New York City,
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:and their chocolate covered cherries
have the stem, and then you bite in and
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:all that gooey liquid comes out, and
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:Mark: they're
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:Bruce: really fabulous.
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:One of the things that I remember
about the holidays was something that
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:happened later in life, once Mark
and I were together, I mean, I hadn't
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:been off the island of Manhattan in
years, and he moved in with me, and he
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:said, you're getting off the island,
and not just to go to the Hamptons.
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:So he shoved me on a plane and took
me to Paris for my first birthday.
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:I had never, I could not live with
a man who had not been to Paris.
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:It just was, it was
impossible to even imagine.
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:So it was my first
birthday together with him.
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:We went to Paris and we walked by
a sweet shop and it was a chocolate
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:shop, but also a candy shop.
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:Now you have to understand
this is Thanksgiving.
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:So Paris is getting ready
for the holiday season.
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:It's all getting decorated for Christmas.
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:And these windows of these
shops were just beautiful.
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:Beautiful.
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:And they had piles and bowls
of glistening pate de fouille,
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:which are just like French
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:Mark: chuckles.
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:Can I add to the story right now?
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:You insisted they were called
pate de fouille, and I kept
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:saying it's pate de fouille, and
you just wouldn't listen to me.
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:So you went in and
ordered pate de fouille.
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:I think they probably smeared
liver on yours or something,
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:some kind of liver mousse.
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:Bruce: And if you don't know
what it is, They're kind of like
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:chuckles, those little, those
little, Yes, they're like chuckles.
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:Chewy candy squares.
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:Yes, exactly like that.
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:But these are made with real fruit,
and they came in flavors that who,
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:back then, had heard of before.
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:black currents and red
currents and chestnuts.
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:I mean, I hadn't.
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:And so I would go and I memorized in
the hotel, Mark said, and you have
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:to go back and you have to say, you
know, just sweet, desolate to voodoo.
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:I'm so sorry to disturb you.
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:And the only way you will get,
you can just say that's a little
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:Mark: bit at this point
to say that's the light.
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:No.
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:No, I've seen it on tv.
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:No way.
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:De
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:because it's important to be
polite enough not, and by the
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:way, you have to precede de
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:. It's, it's just the way
you get seen in Fon.
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:Oh yes,
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:Bruce: which is where we were at Fauchon,
and I asked for my 24 morceaux de pâte
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:à fruits, and then I had to try and name
all the flavors I wanted, and we went
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:back to our hotel, and I thought I was
going to bring these 24 pieces home.
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:We ate All of them.
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:We, we, such
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:Mark: a big word in that sentence.
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:We ate all of them.
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:Go on.
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:I had to
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:Bruce: buy more to bring home.
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:Paris was just magical
for sweets and candies.
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:It still next trip to Paris, at the
same time of year, I discovered nougat.
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:And the only thing I No,
you didn't discover nougat.
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:Well, I You discovered nougat.
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:Yes, well, I knew nougat from
like a Three Musketeers bar.
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:Right.
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:This is nougat.
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:This is a
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:Mark: whole different category of sweet.
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:Bruce: Oh, God.
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whites, and it is almost like
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:Divinity, which is
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:Mark: the worst thing
I've ever said, but go on.
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:Bruce: But nougat is, Delicious,
and chewy, and not as sweet,
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:Mark: and And they jammed them full of
chocolate bars, and dried fruit, and And
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it often comes in a domed shape.
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it's on a pedestal under a dome.
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down bowl and they cut it like
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of different flavor combinations.
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:Bruce: Oh, I walked into a shop
one day and I just said to the
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:Yeah, we take a step back too.
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is, I have need of nougat.
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:Oh, I take a step back, too.
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that I started making it at home.
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:Mark: I don't even think that
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:Oh, they have the best nougat in Paris.
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:So we came home and I
started making nougat.
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in a dome, I did this really cool thing.
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leather, like apricot leather,
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:I bought it in a Middle Eastern store
and I spread the hot nougat all over.
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piece on top of that when it cooled I
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each one And I did the nicest thing
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:for somebody we had friends who owned a
restaurant and they were getting married
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to poland for the wedding And I brought
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this delicious pomegranate enrobed nougat
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:Mark: pieces of pomegranate,
uh, covered nougat.
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:And your nougat was not as crazy
as the stuff you can get in Paris.
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:It didn't have the No.
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:You know, I don't know what marsh
called chocolate covered marshmallows
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everything into their new gun.
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of Parisian sweets.
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candies and sweets, referencing the
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:In fact, right now, we want to hope.
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candy, even though probably most
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:You know, there are fond memories
we can have of these kind of foods.
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and wonderful things about cooking and
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to our sense memories, all the way
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We connect deeply to these things from
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connect deeply to these things from
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others connect now to their futures
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:Okay, what's traditional in the
last episode of our podcast?
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:What's making us happy in food this week?
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:Bruce: I've graduated from eating candy
like I used to, and now I eat candy.
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:Pretzels and dried cranberries.
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:Is that, is that graduating?
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:Last night I was watching TV and
I wanted something sweet and I
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:grabbed some extra dark, I buy
these extra dark burned pretzels.
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them so Mark had bought me some
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ate Pretzels and dried cranberries.
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:Mark: And that's a good treat.
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:And before that, as Bruce had made
for dinner, one of my favorite
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:Earlier in the week,
Bruce roasted a turkey.
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in with Bruce, he was the only human
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of the blue and not for the holidays.
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:It's kind of an amazing thing because it
really provides you dinner for dinner.
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the two of us, right?
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:This turkey, what, how big was a 10 pound
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:Bruce: turkey.
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:Mark: Okay, 10 pounds.
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:So we've been eating on this thing
for days, having salad, turkey
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:salad, and turkey sandwiches.
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:And we had, of course, we had a
hot dinner with it, first of all.
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:But last night, Bruce made
one of my favorite things,
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:He took the carcass and all the meat.
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:He put it in the Instant
Pot with vegetables, right?
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:And you cooked it, and then you,
Undid the pressure and let it boil
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:I took everything
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I pulled the meat off the carcass, I
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separately in the rice cooker with stock.
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:He cooks his rice with stock separately.
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:So the rice doesn't cook in the turkey
rice soup, so the turkey rice soup isn't
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:And I don't want all that
delicious turkey stock to be lost.
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just basically as he serves it.
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key to how delicious it is.
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:Cause the rice stays really,
um, toothsome, you know, it has
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:Bruce: I leave on the side
to put in is cartilage.
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:I pull that out cause you like it.
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:So when I'm pulling the meat off
the carcass, I pull the cartilage.
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:Mark: You do.
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of bones and all, that's the stuff I eat.
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little bowl of cartilage.
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:Mark: it in my soup.
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:Wow, that's crazy.
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:All right, so that's our
podcast for this week.
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:We do wish you a happy holidays,
whatever sort of holiday you celebrate.
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:We hope it is the best.
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:And if you don't celebrate any
holiday, we hope you make one up to
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:knock off the winter chill this year.
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in whatever way that makes you happiest.
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:Bruce: And every week.
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making us happy in food.
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:So go to our Facebook group, Cooking
with Bruce and Mark, and not only tell us
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:what's making you happy in food this week,
but share with us a few candy memories
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:from your childhood or from any holiday
or from any amazing candy you've ever had.
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:Because I want to know about it
because I think I want to try it.
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:And then we can talk about it here
on Cooking with Bruce and Mark.