What are spiritual downloads, and why do some people seem to evolve spiritually faster than others?

In this episode of Spirit Sherpa, Kelle Sparta explores a phenomenon she calls The Quickening—the accelerated growth that can occur when you spend time around people who have already developed greater levels of consciousness, embodiment, and spiritual mastery. Through stories from her own journey and experiences with respected elders and teachers, Kelle explains how transformation often happens through energetic connection rather than information alone.

Many people think of spiritual downloads as messages from guides, psychic insights, or intuitive revelations. In this conversation, Kelle offers another perspective: that spiritual downloads can occur through proximity, resonance, and energetic connection with others. Through empathy, shared energy fields, and what some traditions might describe as entrainment, we can absorb patterns of awareness, embodiment, and wisdom that help accelerate our development.

The discussion explores how spiritual growth moves beyond intellectual understanding into lived experience. Kelle explains the difference between knowledge and embodiment, why apprenticeships have existed throughout spiritual traditions, and how spending time with advanced practitioners can help raise your own energetic set point.

If you've ever wondered why certain teachers profoundly impact your life, why some people seem to grow faster than others, or how energetic downloads really work, this episode offers a compelling framework for understanding spiritual acceleration.

What You'll Learn

• What spiritual downloads are
• The Quickening explained
• Energetic entrainment and spiritual growth
• How consciousness is shared
• Knowledge versus embodiment
• The role of mentorship and elders
• Spiritual osmosis and empathic resonance
• How energetic transmission accelerates growth
• Why presence can be more powerful than information
• How to become more receptive to transformation

Resources Mentioned

Shadow Work Readiness Quiz

https://learn.kellesparta.com/shadowworkquiz

Spirit Guides School

https://spiritguidesschool.com

Kelle Sparta

https://kellesparta.com

Hello, and welcome to Spirit Sherpa, the show that helps and encourages you on your journey to unlock your magic mojo. If you're new to this type of work, we suggest you start with episode one and move your way forward from there. Each episode builds on the last, and you'll have a solid foundation of the spiritual world by the time you get to the end, and a solid understanding too.

If you're further along in your journey, then start at episode 98. And if you're ready to step into being a spiritual practitioner or teacher yourself, then episode 200 is the best place to start. Wherever you are in your journey, we're here to help guide you to the next level. With me as always, to share her insights and wisdom, is the spirit doctor Kelle Sparta.

Hey, Kelle. How's your day going? Hey, Jules. Uh, that's- it's- it's okay. It's okay? It's okay. That was not- I keep hitting- ... confident. Well, okay, so here's the thing, right? Is that last few days I, despite getting plenty of sleep, despite taking plenty of downtime, I keep running into the wall. And, you know, I give- keep hitting the energetic wall where I'll be wide awake and then suddenly I- I need to sleep right now.

Oh my God, that's me too. And so, you know, i- i- and if you guys are hearing this you may- you may have the same experience bec- and I'm gonna remind you why. Okay? But w- in an earlier episode, God help me which one, I have no idea. But in an earlier episode we talked about installing an energetic cutoff, a switch off, right?

So that when you got to a certain percentage of your energy you would know that you were exceeding that capacity of, you know, I usually tell people start at 25%, work up to 50 or 75 and- and then, you know, then when you go from wide awake to suddenly I have to sleep right now, you know that you've hit your cutoff.

And so I moved mine up to, I think, 75 a while ago. And so I have been hitting it hard in the last few days. And Jules, you're probably having the same experience. Uh, you know, you're- you're definitely hitting, hitting the same thing. So the answer is not to reduce the level of the percentage. That is not the answer.

I hear you guys thinking that. That is not the answer. The answer is to take more downtime, to acknowledge that, you know, there's just a lot going on in the ethers right now. As we're recording this it is April 20th, which is, uh, you know, we're- we're going through a solar eclipse right now, we're going through a new moon right now.

Everybody on TikTok is all out there going, "Wow, this is a manifestation moon," blah blah blah blah blah. Right? So all of that shit's going down. And Mercury retrograde. And there's just a lot going. Oh yeah, Mercury retrograde starts in a couple of days. Yeah, all of this stuff as- at the time of this recording.

So- Not a big surprise if you're feeling a little overdone. Okay? So, with that said, um, one of the things that's had me feeling a little overdone is the brand shift that we're working on, and, uh, planning some new retreats. And so we had a different topic that we were gonna talk about for this episode today, and Jules and I started talking about the retreats and what they were gonna be about and all of that and, and, and suddenly we're talking about some different things.

And she's like, "I've never heard of this," blah, blah, blah. So I'm like, okay, so we gotta make an episode out of this. So we're gonna, we're gonna go back and have part of that conversation again, and then we'll finish having the conversation. So, uh, you know, I'm looking at doing some retreats here in Panama.

I'll be doing, you know, seven-day retreats, and I've got a few different topics. And the first one I was gonna start with is gonna be called The Quickening, and she's like, "Well, why would you do that?" What's The Quickening? Right. She's like, "What is that? Why would... Why... What would you call that that?" And, and I'm like, "Well, it's actually...

It's not just a Highlander thing, right?" 'Cause everybody remembers Highlander and The Quickening, right? Um, but it's actually from Lynn Andrews' power deck, and there's a card in that deck called The Quickening, and it says, uh, "If you will look into the eyes of a woman of power, you will catch up with her a little."

Okay? And it, it's not the only thing it says, but that's, that's what I'm talking about in this, is that there is a way in which when you hang out with people who are, uh, further along than you in your journey, that there is an energetic connection that's made, and there are encoded downloads that come into your energy field from that energetic connection that just happen.

And I was talking to Jules about this and I was like, you know... I said, "This is what I, I'm, I'm convinced that this is the reason why I was able to move so quickly in my journey." Uh, you know, aside from the fact that I basically focused on it and almost nothing else, right? Um, I would hang out with all the elders in all the communities that I was a part of.

And when you hang out with the elders, there's shit that happens. You know? There... And, and you're not even conscious of it when, when you're just beginning on the journey. But like I remember Abigail Spinner at my very first Rite. So Abigail Spinner, uh, she is a singer-songwriter, and she i- was an elder of the community in Boston, uh, well in Western Massachusetts.

Um, the, the two of them would do amazing rituals around the fire at these events. And I remember coming in someplace, I was coming into the room, uh, I don't know, maybe she was working the registration. I don't know, I just, I have this vivid image of her sitting at a table and me standing there and giving her my name and she goes, "Who are you?"

I gave her my name again, and she's like, "Yeah, yeah, but who are you?" And I was like

oh, oh, oh. I, I- I don't know how to answer that Oh. I'm me. And I, I started giving her, you know, what I did for a living and, you know 'cause I couldn't say I don't know who I am. That's, that was the big one. I don't know. It's what I'm here to figure out. I did not... No. That, that was not a possible response at the time that this was happening.

I had to be right. I had to know, was how I established my value, and not even knowing who the fuck I was was not an option. Not an option. Right? Fake it till you make it, damn it. Fake it till you make it, damn it. And so I, I still vividly remember the feeling of her staring at me and saying, "Who are you?"

And I was like, "I don't have any way to answer the quest-" She finally let me off the hook and let me in the room, whatever the hell it was. But I just, I

It was bad, man. And so, you know, but, but that moment was, was a crystallization moment for me, right? Because it made clear to me I had no idea who I was. I didn't know how to answer that question outside of what did I do, right? And it seemed entirely inappropriate as an answer to her question in that context, in that moment, to say what I did.

You think she, and she was c- probably prompted to just ask you that going, "Hey, ask her this and just screw with her," you know? Probably not even that. So, so let me tell you a secret. Here's a little secret that none of the elders will tell you, right? Is that it, it's rare that we get, like, our guides are in the back of our head saying, "Oh, say this," right?

It literally is they just come into our heads and speak with our mouths. And, you know, sometimes we notice and sometimes we don't. But, you know, or, or sometimes we're just connected in, and the question is in the person's energy field, and we're just reflecting back to them what's in their field, right? So It, it, you know, there's, it's never a, "Let's fuck with her."

Your guides are never gonna say, "Let's fuck with her." Never. Um, that is not a... That's, that's a, that's an earth-based thing. That is not a guide-based thing. Okay? So, you know, your guides will say, "Here's the question she needs to hear." I was gonna say- Right? ... this is what she needs to hear. But- Okay ... which, you know, we will interpret as, as, you know, hey, you're fucking with me, right?

I know, but that's not what they mean by it, right? Yeah. So, um, but in, in that moment, I had that crystallization of, oh, shit, I don't know who I am, and that actually likely informed a lot of what happened for me in the years to come. The fact that it is still such a vivid memory for me, when we just discussed that I can't remember what we recorded two weeks ago, it's- Y'all, it's for real

it's pretty indicative. She, she was like, "What did we record?" I'm like, "Dude, we talked about the businesses and s- the basics for, for the business." And she was like, "I don't remember that." I'm like, "Yeah, remember we referenced this website?" Oh. And it's like, oh, yeah. Okay. Yep. Like, I don't need to know anymore.

It's real. It's gone, you know? It's real. I got too much. I got too much, so... But, you know, it, it, it was, it's a vivid memory for me, and that's because of that. Now, you know, I also spent time with Errol, who was a little nuts, and she was an elder in the, in the voodoo community. And she, she was big into, um... You know, she, she just, she was really good at what she did, right?

And I just, I didn't spend time studying with her. I spent time hanging out with her. I'm sure I've told the story about the, uh, the, about her sending everybody out to smudge the outside. Is she the one? She's one of my- She's the one ... I've never met the lady, but I'm like, I love this story. Yeah. Yeah. So she's the one who everybody was having their drama on site at, at Starwood and, and they came to her going, "What do we do?

What do we do?" And she said, "Do you have smudge?" "Yes." "Smudge the camp." And, and everyone who walked in got that answer, and I looked at her after she send, sent a big group out, and I'm like, "Why? What the fuck are you doing?" It's... Like, smudging the camp isn't gonna do shit. It's outdoors. Like, I mean, you can't smudge the outdoors.

And she's like, "They don't know that." And I'm like... She's like, "It gets them out of my tent." Gets them out of my tent. That's the purpose. That's the purpose. It gives the kids something to do. I'm like, okay. Or, or, or, or- All right ... how, how my mom used to tell me, "Get out from under my feet" Go do something. Get out from under my feet.

Yeah, but she, she was not gonna tell them that because they were too in their drama, so she gave them something to do, some purpose to serve, to, to, to ... Yeah, yeah. So you know, I hung out with her, I hung out with Sue Arthur who was one of the, um, higher-ups in the, uh, the Earth Spirit Clan. I, I hung out with Cathy and with Ken Day, and they were the people who were the organizers for Lumen Gate.

I didn't hang out with Ken as much as I hung out with Cathy, but just ... You know, I spent a lot of time with a lot of very high-end, you know, elders, a lot of people who were, you know, badasses, right? And almost none of it was spent learning something specifically from them, right? I mean, it wasn't like I was taking classes with them on a regular basis or anything.

So we're empaths. Being an empath means that you are constantly in a state of mixing your energy field with other people. And you know, we teach you how to manage that, but we still choose to do it. I mean, I mix my energy with my husband, and he reads my mind all the time Okay? Because our energies are mixed, right?

And it could be a, a conscious mixing or an unconscious. Right. But until you learn how to do it, until you learn how to manage it, it's unconscious. But clearly, these elders chose to allow me into their energy fields because what was happening without me consciously realizing it is that w- when you're in, when you share energies with somebody who's an elder, what happens is that you get, um, little pieces of code, right?

Is the best way to, to think about it. If we're all computer programs, right? Then if you have two computer programs operating on the same server at the same time doing the same thing together, and they're ... Th- and think of us as AI, right? They learn from each other, right? They, they pick up on each other's code.

It's like the reason why we learn to ... If, if you spend a lot of time with someone, you start talking like them, you start walking like them, you start using the same inflections. Those are pieces of code that are being downloaded into you by way of that shared experience. The same thing happens on a spiritual level.

Your accent gets a lot worse when you have a husband from Georgia. Yeah. So the same thing happens, uh, from a spiritual perspective on your spiritual knowledge that exists in your being-ness. Okay? So we've talked about this before, where there are two paths to enlightenment, right? There's the masculine path, which is the heart chakra up, where you are understanding and knowing, and you're m- stripping away at the ego, and you're trying to let go of stuff, and limiting beliefs and all of that stuff, right?

That's the masculine path. That's the path of the light, right? It's, it's in the yin-yang, it's the white. And in, and, and it's the masculine path. So you're stripping away, stripping away, stripping away until you become nothing and you become one with everything, right? And that's the path of enlightenment from the masculine path.

The feminine path is the path of great mystery. It's of experience. It's the darkness. It's the blackness on the yin-yang, right? And so that is the embodied pathway. And the embodiment pieces are the piece, they're, they're the more advanced pieces because most people start in the heart chakra up. Most spiritual practices, not all, but most spiritual practices are working heart chakra up.

And so therefore, they're more beginner level stuff because it's, well, that and it's because it's in the head, right? So when you're in your head, you're trying to understand, you're trying to, you manage with your head, we control with our head, we're in our mind, we're in our ego, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

When you can transcend that stuff, you can come into the body, and the body wisdom, and the body knowingness, and the experienced aspect of spirituality. Okay? And this experience level of spirituality is a not... I don't wanna say it's not conscious because you, you are conscious to it, but you're not processing it with your head.

Okay? It is a beingness state, not a doingness state. It is a way of being. It is a bringing yourself into alignment with. It is a shifting through the movement of energy. It is a settling into the, the, the moment of the present now, the eternal state of now. It's a beingness state. Okay? And in that eternal moment of now is the Akashic records and everything that y- has ever been, ever will, ever could be.

All the dimensions exist in the one, in the now, in the experience of the all that is, right? When you are operating within the experiential state, w- you know, having removed judgment and embraced compassion and, and, uh, letting go of good and evil, which we talked about in transcending good versus evil, right?

When you are operating in that space, your being-ness is more easily shared, and it's not just surface things like my accent is heavier or I say things in this cadence or we talk in this way or we use these words or whatever, right? Though that's the very high, you know, shallow level of how this stuff works.

When you are in the being-ness state, it is about, uh, being in a... There's a deeper level of it, and bear with me, this is the first time I'm languaging this for people, so if I'm have to fumble through it, bear with me. And the code that gets exchanged when you share energies with someone else is the, you- you're anchoring.

It's like an NLP anchor. So if you've ever taken neuro-linguistic programming and you understand the concept of an anchor, which is to take an experience and anchor it into your memory through a particular thing, right? So like a movement or something like that, right? Um, this is a similar sort of concept, except that it's anchoring a state of being into your field through the experience of it in somebody else's field because you are an empath and you are experiencing what they're experiencing by the very nature of being an empath.

So then it becomes my experience? So it's, it becomes a sense memory that you can then access to create your own version of that experience It's kinda like I have a mini, uh, there's a set of, you know, 'cause I call you a walking encyclopedia. So I, I would have maybe letters A through F and then... Or, or is that different?

No, that would be a head-based thing. That is, that is a, that's a head-based thing. That's a knowledge thing. Okay, so you ever have somebody in your life who when you walk up to them and you s- and you, you like hang out with them, they just make you feel better? You just feel good or you just feel ick, you know?

There's- I've had those too. Yeah. So that is what I'm talking about. What you're getting from those people is a sensory experience of either comfort in the feeling good or feeling loved or feeling welcome or feeling, you know, whatever, or you're getting the sense of feeling agitated or angry or judged or whatever, right?

From, from the other person, right? And so it's, you're, you're feeling the being-ness of them. Now, it's not as e- it, so I, I shouldn't probably have used the negative one because that, a lot of it comes from, you know, somebody's thinking about you and they're judging you and blah, blah, blah, or you're projecting judgment onto them, one or the other.

But if it's a body experience, it's most likely that there's something that they're positioning onto you, right? But with the positive experiences, this is where we most often have it, so usually it's like that grandmother energy. That's what I was thinking of, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Most of us associate it with grandmother energy, whether it's your grandmother or not, it's grandmother energy.

It's that, "Oh, come here, baby. Come, come to grandma. Grandma will love you no matter what. She'll give you candy, and we will love you. And you can just sit here all day and you can, can tell me anything." Right? There's that sort of, that, you know, that's the one visceral sort of, uh, anchoring that we all can, can grasp.

This is that, only from a spiritual perspective. It's from a inner peace, stillness, uh, focus, presence, completely, um, owning your own space and being sovereign in your being-ness, right? It's, it's from that place, and that energy can be translated through energy connection with another person. Can it be translated over the internet?

Nah, not as much. It's harder. It, this sort of thing, because it's an embodied state, is much better in person because you're embodied with the person. But that's the sort of thing that I'm talking about with this. And you get that just by hanging out with the elders, assuming they'll let you hang out with them, right?

But if you do that intentionally, which is what I was talking about with the quickening, um, retreat, right? If you do it intentionally, then there is a... Then as the person who's doing that, I would, you know, open my field and pull people into that space and, and give them an anchor point for that and help them to find it within themselves, and, you know, it's an experiential process, right?

And so that is why I wanted to call it the quickening, is because that's really what you're doing, is you're, you're getting to... We all love to skip steps, right? But th- it's not exactly skipping steps, but it's... You and I had this conversation the other day about not trying to get something, right? Yes, we did.

But trying, like trying to push the river, right? Yeah, not trying to push the river. Right. Yes. You can't push the river. No. The best you can hope for is to go in, pick up your feet, and float along with the river and let, and, and be in the flow of it, right? And, and you can spend years trying to find this state, and in fact, I've met many people who've spent years and years meditating, and, you know, they're good at meditating, but they haven't really found a peaceful place.

And that's because they've, they've focused on something and mastered that something, but that isn't the something that gets them to the place that they are looking for, right? There's a lot of things that you can master that may or may not get you wanting... where you wanna go, right? And so- Yeah ... you know, and some of them will get you close.

Some of them will get you closer, right, you know? And some of them are just, you know, things to master that don't necessarily get you anywhere close to what, you know, or anywhere near where you're wanting to go, I should say. 'Cause everything gets you closer to something, right? So, you know, this is about working with people who are further along in their journey, who have done a bunch and are now like, "Okay, I'm ready to level up, and I can't do the beginner stuff anymore because it's not useful to me.

And I, I, I keep trying, and I'm not necessarily getting there," or, "I'm trying and I'm getting closer, but it's not really fully there," or, you know, uh, "I, I, I'm doing pretty okay by myself, but I would love something deeper and more connected and where I have more access to my sovereign self, to my power, to my purpose, to my being-ness, to my, you know, ways of being amazingly, uh, impactful on an energetic level in the world," right?

And that's what I'm talking about when I talk about ener- interpersonal energetic downloads. Yeah. What you w- when you were s- talking about that, what the image that popped into my head was like, say like in archery, and you have a bullseye, and what you're, where you're trying, wanting to get, your purpose and everything, is right at that little black bullseye.

And you may be hitting around it, but now with the quickening, it's gonna hone you in to where you're, you know, shooting the arrow right there, then you shoot the arrow that splits the arrow that hit the bullseye. You know, that kind of thing. Yeah. So it's, that's still even too much of a head-based metaphor.

Well, I, you know, hello. But yes. Have you met me? I'm in my head. Same I- But, but I do. Yeah. Yeah. This is, this is more of a, you know- ... um, I don't even know how to, how to language this one, but it's, it's, it's kinda like you can't be a little bit pregnant, right? true or leave. Either are or you're not. Right. You can be more pregnant- So-

if it's twins or triplets or, you know. Just still just pregnant, you know? But you're pregnant. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, yeah, so, uh, you know, the ... And this would normally be if we were doing this as a promotion, this would normally be where we'd say, "Oh, well, this is when it's happening." I don't have that answer. I'm literally driving around and looking at venues right now.

So, um, you know, but, but we were having this conversation, and it was such an interesting ... Literally in the course of having this conversation before we got on to have a, to talk about something else, um, I, I had the realization that, that that was what was happening, and I was just not conscious of it at the time.

And the, uh, w- you know, it's a, it's a new state of being, uh, for me to recognize and acknowledge that, and I am confident in my ability to pass that forward to others at this point in my being, in, in my, in my evolution. And so, you know, a lot of this was just about being able to de- define it for you guys because, you know, it's not something- Yeah

I've ever heard anybody talk about. You know, ex- the, the quickening card in the b- in the, the Power deck was the very first time I've, I've heard it referenced in any way, and not in this context. So, you know, I wanted to make sure that you guys knew that, one, it was possible, and two, what was happening.

Because, you know, when you're early on in your journey and you're working with elders, you know, there's no way to not be impacted. There's a reason they did apprenticeships. You know? Because you would just spend a lot of time with the elder, and you would get a lot of it through osmosis. And, you know, getting something through osmosis means literally through your empath energy field, right?

Yeah. So we have language for it, we just don't, don't use it in that way. Now, could there be... I don't know what the reason would be, but where or when an elder is doing this, it's conscious to where the elder has to open themselves up for it, or it's unconscious, kinda it happens. The, the reason I, I was, I was wondering, you know, you, you always wanna be respectful to your elders and all of that, right?

And so if there's an occasion that someone is being disrespectful as in trying to get this, all this osmosis, well, I'm just gonna kinda like butt in and try and hang out with her, but, you know, doing that and crossing that line, right? Yeah, if you come in with that energy, a- any elder worth, worth their salt is gonna like shove you out because you're trying to suck their energy, right?

Yeah. You've kinda turned into a- This is, this is- ... energy vampire, you know? Right. Yeah. Um, th- so to say is it conscious or not on the part of the e- elder... So here's the thing, and this is the other thing I said to Jewel earlier, was, um, you know, I still get the benefit of these downloads when I hang out with other elders who have mastered different parts of life than I have.

And so I still get that benefit from hanging out with them. There's a, there's an, an up-leveling that happens. There's... Y- it, I mean, we see this referenced actually in, um, whenever you talk to somebody about being successful, they'll say that your income is the average of the five people you spend the most time with, right?

That is this, okay? That is, you know, there is a, there is a set point that in energetic, in the monetary field that is causing that to be the case, right? And so, you know, that's why they say, "Seek out people who are more successful than you are to spend time with them," because that way your set point gets raised.

That's the same thing here, right? So I hang out with, like, Janine Bolon, okay? I, I hang out with Janine, and she has gone down completely different paths than I have in some places, and she never fails to raise my vibration in some way, shape, or form, okay? And, uh, she has said the same to me in return because we, we have been in different places, and we've done different things, and we hold different energies, and therefore, the, the energetic vibration shift happens, right?

So, you know, it, it doesn't stop, right? So it's just a matter of, of making sure that you are in a space where you are open to receive what is available to you, but you are not, like, trying to pull or demand or insinuate yourself or whatever, right? And so, you know, sometimes it's about... Like I, uh, trying to think of reasons I ended up hanging with these people.

Um, you know, I would... I, I remember, so I remember going to Daughters of the Earth gathering. Uh, was it Daught- It might have been Belly and Womb Conference. It was one of Elisa Starkweather's r- uh, events, and I had come in and, and s- been a speaker. And I sat down in the kitchen, uh, in the living room just off the kitchen, and I just sat on the couch because it was, it was comfortable, and everybody, everything else was outside.

And all the speakers came and cir- circled in and came and sat down with me. And my friends accused me of holding court. They were like, 'You held court.' I was like, "I did what? I just sat on the freaking couch. I was a couch potato all afternoon." "You held court. All of the people who I would want to talk to came and sat with you."

And I was like, "Well, I was in the comfy spot." And, and I wasn't attached to talking to them. I was just there, and they came and talked to me, and I was happy to see them, and they sat down, and we talked, right? And, and in my head, I was not holding court, I was just hanging out, right? And because I was the one holding the neutral hanging out energy, I don't...

You know, I'm not fan-girling or, you know, needing to know more, whatever, you know, then they would sit down and be like, "Hey, can I hang with you?" And I'm like, "Yeah, sure. What's going on?" You know? I'm like... Because I treated them as people, right? And not as, you know, guru on high or whatever, because yeah, you know, unless you are all up in your ego, you do not wanna be treated as guru on high, let me tell you.

Because, you know, that's some shit right there. That's a lot of pressure to have to live into. And they probably wanted, needed that break. Yeah. And if you're a spiritual teacher, you should not be in that guru energy, right? 'Cause that's ego shit, right? We talked about that before too, or m- it may have been you and Joey, but that, that came up on one of your podcasts too, about the gurus being all up in their ego and, "What I say is law and nobody else is right."

Right. Now I n- let me be clear, I'm saying this in, in the Western version of guru, not in the Eastern Indian tradition of guru. Uh, because that's a very different energy there and, you know, I... Some of them are in that space and some are not, okay? Um, I'm talking about the Western, you know, "I am the great grand poobah of this spiritual tradition, and you will follow me and worship me and, and beg to be at my feet."

And turn your power over to me. Yeah, that energy. Yes, and turn your power over to me. And, and I will savage you if you try and leave me, because I need your energy, right? Yeah. No. Yeah. So no, we're not that, right? Nobody who's actually on a spiritual path wants to be treated like that, okay? No one. That's way too much work.

Way too much work, way too much responsibility. Fuck that shit, right? That's why I tell people, my goal is for you to be perfectly able to do all of this stuff yourself by the time you get done with all my classes. I don't wanna be responsible for your ass forever. That's not what I want. But Muh- I want you to be empowered

But Muh, I'ma live in your basement until I die. I live for the empty nest syndrome, okay? Because, you know, that's the goal, right? It's the goal for you to be able to stand on your own two feet and be powerful and sovereign over yourself, where you don't give a shit what I think, right? And, and that's great.

That's exactly where you should be. You are not gonna be in a position to help anybody else unless you get there, because you're gonna be dependent upon their approval, and therefore you're gonna suck as a spiritual teacher, okay? So, you know, that's my goal. My goal is to, to make people, uh, n- not make, that's the wrong word, but to, to give people the tools that they need and the perspectives that they need to stand on their own two feet and be completely sovereign in their power and in their purpose, and to be the spiritual badass that they were meant to be.

That's my goal. And then, you know, I'm here as a touchstone to say, "Hey, how you doing?" And, you know, you hit something hard and you come back and you'll be like, "I didn't know what to do with this." And I'm like, "I got you," okay? But that's it, you know? So, you know, uh, this is the thing, is that when you're standing in that space where you're not seeking approval, you're not seeking to fan girl or whatever, right?

Fan boy, whatever. Then, you know- It's, uh, the, the elders are just hanging out with you because they're hanging out with you They're choosing to They're just being people with you, right? And that's the answer. If you wanna know how to hang out with an elder if you're at an event, don't treat them like an elder.

Be a person with them. You know, not to say that you can't be respectful and whatever else, because you know, that's, that's relevant. But, but treat 'em like a person, you know? That's, that's the people they choose to hang out with. They all love to hang out with people who are them 30 years ago, you know?

It's like... And you're all them 30 years ago. I mean, that's just it. But you know, if you're, if you're just being you, then, then you're golden. But if you're, you're trying to get something or you're trying to, you know, get somewhere by hanging with them or, you know, be able to say, "Oh, I hung out with so and so," blah, blah, blah- E- that, yeah, that's where I was going.

Yeah. Then, then you- Elevate, elevating my status, quote, quote, quote- Yes ... air quotes. Yeah. That's feeding your ego, which is opposite of what you need to be doing, and it's like mm, mm, mm, mm. Right. Yeah. So that's the thing. So hang out with them, be people with them, you know, that sort of thing. Mm-hmm. So okay. So you know, yes, we will be offering these retreats in the future.

I don't know when. If you're curious and you want to know, if you wanna be informed of when these retreats are happening, there is a space on the website that you can go to. Uh, it's in the events section of the, the website, and you, you, there's a dropdown and it says inform of next retreat. And if you click on that, uh, and put your email in, um, we will send you an email when the retreat happens.

And, uh, I'll let you know what's gonna, what, what the deal is gonna be with that and how that's gonna work and so on. So but, uh, yeah. So yeah, be careful who you mix your energy field with. There you go. See? I didn't even have to prompt her. She knew what to do and give me a Kelle-ism. She just poof, went there.

Why? Because our energies are all mixing, so That's it.

I just went with it. There you go. It's all good. Yeah. So and we also have the, uh, what is your shadow work readiness score. We have that up there too. Yes. Um, and a reminder- Yeah, so if you don't, if you're not sure that you're gonna be ready for the- For the retreat ... the higher end stuff, then, then for the retreat, then, you know, check out the quiz, and that'll give you an idea of where you should end up in the programs.

There you go. All right. Well, that's all that we have for this week, folks. Tune in next time when Kelle adds another chapter into your guide to energy, magic, and the spirit world. I'm Jules, here with Kelle Sparta, and you have been listening to Spirit Sherpa. So long, everyone. Bye.