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#32: From Paper Mockups to AI Lecturer: How Kateryna Builds Business Models and Overcomes Impostor Syndrome
Episode 32 • 20th September 2026 • "Women in Tech Wisdom" by David Kaselow • David Kaselow
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In this episode, David talks with Kateryna about how she went from her beginnings as the "Girl from the Internet" with printed paper mockups to becoming a serial tech founder and university lecturer. Kateryna shares her key lessons on monetizing technical ideas, explains why you don't need to be a math genius for an IT career, and reveals her proven method for effectively overcoming Impostor Syndrome. She also speaks openly about starting over after the war broke out in Ukraine and the transformative power of mentoring.

She started her career in the IT and digital sector around 20 years ago, long before digital careers became mainstream. Today, she combines her experience in technology, digital marketing, education, and entrepreneurship to help organisations and professionals develop innovative digital products, business models, and growth strategies.

👤 Guest Profile

Name: Kateryna (Kate) Ilchenko

Role: Business Strategist, University Lecturer for Digital Marketing & Sales at Arden University in Berlin, 5x Founder, and Executive MBA Candidate in AI.

⏱️ Key Takeaways & Chapter Overview

  • Introduction & Guest Intro: Who is Kateryna, and how does her brain automatically spot business models in every conversation?
  • Starting Out in 2007: The birth of the "Girl from the Internet" with printed paper designs and her first ad subscriptions in Ukraine.
  • The €100,000 Lesson: Why poor task delegation to developers gets expensive and how to stay sustainably profitable as a bootstrapper.
  • Outbreak of War & New Beginnings: The abrupt end of her businesses in Ukraine, gratitude for her reception in Germany, and social commitment.
  • Mentoring & Seeking Advice: Why successful people gladly give 30 minutes of their time when you actively ask for it.
  • Breaking Stereotypes: Why top performance in mathematics isn't a strict prerequisite for financial success in tech.
  • Impostor Syndrome & the Hypothesis Method: How to stop hesitating using time-bound goals and clear KPIs.
  • Soft Skills & Passion: Why self-presentation, content creation, and genuine enthusiasm are irreplaceable in the AI age.

💬 Memorable Quotes

"Everything might be ruined in one day, but continue building."

"No one is ready enough. You become ready while you are doing."

"You can be the smartest person in the world, but if you cannot sell yourself, you will earn nothing."

"Everything might be ruined in one day, but continue building."

"Once you will be with a full plate, you have to continue spreading kindness in the world."

🔗 Mentioned Resources & Links

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Willkommen zum neuen Podcast „Women in Tech Wisdom“ von David Kaselow.

Es erwarten erwarten euch Realtalk und Inspiration mit spannenden Frauen aus der IT- und Tech-Branche!

Mit tollen Stories über ihren Werdegang, Vorbilder und alles, was sie Mädchen und jungen Frauen mitgeben wollen. Damit sich noch mehr Mädchen und Frauen für MINT-Berufe entscheiden. Hört rein und abonniert den Kanal!

Zum Host: David Kaselow ist der "IT-Dolmetscher", der hauptberuflich als IT-Berater für seine Kunden zwischen Business und IT "übersetzt" und auf Social Media und in seinem Buch "IT für Anfänger" wirklich Informatik-Themen sehr anschaulich und einfach für jedermann und jede Frau erklärt!

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I JOINED THE COMPANY THAT WAS A WEB DESIGN STUDIO IN 2007

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THE STUDIO TO DESIGN WEBSITES

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THEY DID NOT HAVE MANY CLIENTS SO SITTING AND DOING NOTHING

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THEY CREATED A WEBSITE OF THE CITY AND THEY THOUGHT

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HOW CAN WE MAKE MONEY ON THAT

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LET'S HIRE A DIGITAL SALES MANAGER

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WHO WOULD SELL ADVERTISEMENT ON OUR WEBSITE

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SO I BECAME THAT GIRL AND HOW I SOLD THIS DIGITAL ADS

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BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE COMPLETELY

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VERY HARD BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE NOT SITTING IN INTERNET WHAT I DID

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I PRINTED A WEBSITE ON A PIECE OF PAPER

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WALKED AROUND THE CITY COMING INSIDE THE COMPANIES AND SAYING HEY

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YOU CAN BE ON A WEBSITE RIGHT LIKE THIS

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AND THAT'S WHY THEY CALLED ME A GIRL FROM INTERNET

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WILLKOMMEN ZUM NEUEN PODCAST

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WOMEN IN TECH WISDOM VON DAVID KASELOW

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ES ERWARTEN EUCH REALTALK UND INSPIRATION

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MIT SPANNENDEN FRAUEN AUS DER IT

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UND TECH BRANCHE ÜBER IHREN WERDEGANG VORBILDER UND ALLES

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WAS SIE MÄDCHEN UND JUNGEN FRAUEN MITGEBEN WOLLEN

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DAMIT SICH NOCH MEHR MÄDCHEN UND FRAUEN FÜR MÄNNERBERUFE ENTSCHEIDEN

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HÖRT REIN UND ABONNIERT DEN KANAL

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HI GOOD

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GOOD EVENING ALL LISTENERS

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TODAY I HAVE A SPECIAL GUEST

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I HAVE KATERINA WITH ME SO KATERINA IS A GIRL FROM THE INTERNET

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AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO PRESENT HER HERE AND TO INTERVIEW HER

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SO AS IT IS A LITTLE TRADITION HERE

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SHE AS A GUEST CAN INTRODUCE HERSELF

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HI KATE

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HI DAVID HOW ARE YOU

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NICE TO SEE YOU HERE

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I'M VERY I'M VERY HAPPY TO HAVE YOU

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SO SHORTLY

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SO LIKE IN TWO OR THREE SENTENCES WHO ARE YOU

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WHO AM I

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FIRST OF ALL I'M A BUSINESS STRATEGIST

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MY BRAIN WORKS AS A BUSINESS MODELS

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WHEN PEOPLE ARE TALKING THEY ARE SAYING SOMETHING

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I SEE BUSINESS MODELS IN MY MIND

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THAT'S WHY I BUILT IT FIVE COMPANIES BY MYSELF AND SOLD FOUR OF THEM

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AND I CAN'T STOP CREATING DIFFERENT BUSINESSES

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HOW I MONETIZE IT IN LIFE

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I WORK AS A LECTURER OF DIGITAL MARKETING AND SALES

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IN UNIVERSITY IN BERLIN

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ON MBA PROGRAMS AND DIGITAL MARKETING MASTERS PROGRAMS

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AND I'M ALSO A STUDENT

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OF EXECUTIVE MBA IN ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE PROGRAM

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RIGHT NOW

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SO STRATEGIST LECTURER

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STUDENT WHATEVER YOU WANT

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I'M HERE TO SHARE MY EXPERIENCE HERE TODAY

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I'M VERY HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE AND YOUR FREE TIME

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SO IT SOUNDS VERY BUSY

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DO YOU STILL HAVE FREE TIME

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HOW HOW DO YOU ENJOY LIFE AFTER AFTER WORK

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I DO ENJOY LIFE IN MY FREE TIME

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I DO TENNIS I LOVE

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"SKIFAHREN" SKIING

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IN IN THE WINTER

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I DO LOVE DOING SPORTS BECAUSE IT HELPS MY BRAIN TO CLEAR AND TO LIKE

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CLEAR UP ALL THOUGHTS I'M ALSO WRITING A BOOK

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I'M ALSO ALREADY HALF PAST

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SO HOPEFULLY IN THIS YEAR IT WILL BE RELEASED ON AMAZON

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AND I HAVE ANOTHER TWO BOOKS IN MY MIND

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WHICH ARE WAITING UNTIL I FINISH THE FIRST ONE

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WHAT IS IT ABOUT ABOUT LAUNCHING THE BUSINESS

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STEP BY STEP GUIDE HOW TO LAUNCH PROFITABLE BUSINESS

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IT'S VERY INTERESTING LIKE I SAID IN THE IN OUR TALK BEFORE

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SO TO SELL A SOLUTION TO TO SELL AN IDEA IS VERY IMPORTANT

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I KNOW MANY ENGINEERS AND IT GUYS

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WHO HAVE VERY COOL SOLUTIONS

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BUT CANNOT REALLY MARKET IT OR MONETIZE IT SO

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I'M HAPPY THAT YOU HELP YOURSELF AND YOUR BUSINESSES AND

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AND OTHERS AS AS A STARTUP MENTOR TO MONETIZE TECHNICAL IDEAS

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THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND YOU KNOW IN GENERAL

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HUH HUH

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I JUST WANNA COMMENT A LITTLE BIT

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THERE IS A SUCH PAINFUL TRUTH MAYBE IT'S UNPOPULAR OPINION

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BUT IT IS THAT NOWADAYS YOU CAN BE THE SMARTEST PERSON IN THE WORLD

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BUT IF YOU CANNOT SELL YOURSELF YOU WILL EARN NOTHING

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AND THE ONE OF THE MAIN SKILLS FOR EVERYONE IS TO CREATE CONTENT

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TO TALK ABOUT YOURSELF

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AND I THINK WHEN YOU TRULY LOVE WHAT YOU ARE BUILDING

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YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IT LOUD OR IF YOU CAN'T YOU CAN LEARN IT

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BECAUSE YOU'RE A SMART PERSON

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SO YOU CAN LEARN IT

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I'M THE ONE WHO IS TEACHING AND WE HAVE SO MUCH FREE INFORMATION

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YOU OPEN INTERNET YOU OPEN AI

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AND YOU JUST MAKE A PROPER PROMPT

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AND YOU PUT YOUR EFFORTS AND YOU CAN LEARN IT

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YEAH YEAH

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WE LIVE IN VERY INTERESTING TIMES

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SO KNOWLEDGE IS CHEAP AT THE MOMENT

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IDEAS ARE CHEAP SO

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BUT TO SELL AND TO TO MONETIZE AND TO BUILD

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IT'S NOT TOO EASY OR MOST DON'T HAVE THE PATIENCE TO GO THROUGH IT

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IT'S ABOUT PATIENCE I AGREE

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I DISAGREE THAT IT'S HARDER TO SELL

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I THINK IT'S

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NOW IT'S EASIER TO SELL BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED SO MANY PEOPLE TO HIRE

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BECAUSE AI WILL HELP YOU PARTLY

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BUT BECAUSE OF THE ALGORITHM

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BECAUSE OF THE LIFE NOW IS SO QUICK

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SO OUR PATIENCE IS JUST DYING AND MANY PEOPLE GIVE UP TOO EARLY

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YOU ARE COMPLETELY RIGHT

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YEAH

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HOW DID YOU ARRIVE IN THE IT SECTOR AT ALL

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AND I KNOW EVEN LEARNING

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AI IN AN MBA BUT HOW DID YOU END THERE

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YOU KNOW MY WAY

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MY PAST WAY IN IT STARTED IN 2007

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2007 AT THAT YEAR ON ANOTHER PART OF THE PLANET

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STEVE JOBS WAS PRESENTING HIS FIRST IPHONE

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AND I WAS THE STUDENT OF UNIVERSITY OF FOREIGN LANGUAGES WHO SEEN THE

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ON A FORUM THE JOB OFFER THAT THEY NEED A SALES MANAGER

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THE DIGITAL

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ADVERTISEMENT SALES MANAGER THAT SOUNDED VERY UNUSUAL

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TOTALLY NOT CLEAR BUT LISTED OF 50 RESPONSIBILITIES THAT ATTRACTED ME

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AND I WAS THINKING WHY NOT TO APPLY

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IT WAS JUST A FORUM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT SO I APPLIED

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I DON'T THINK THEY HAD MUCH CHOICE

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AND I JOINED THE COMPANY THAT WAS A WEB DESIGN STUDIO IN 2007

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THE STUDIO TO DESIGN WEBSITES

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THEY DID NOT HAVE MANY CLIENTS SO SITTING AND DOING NOTHING

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THEY CREATED A WEBSITE OF THE CITY AND THEY THOUGHT

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HOW CAN WE MAKE MONEY ON THAT

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LET'S HIRE A DIGITAL SALES

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MANAGER WHO WOULD SELL ADVERTISEMENT ON OUR WEBSITE

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SO I BECAME THAT GIRL AND HOW I SOLD THIS DIGITAL ADS

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BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE COMPLETELY

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WHAT I DID I PRINTED A WEBSITE ON A PIECE OF PAPER

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WALKED AROUND THE CITY COMING INSIDE THE COMPANIES AND SAYING HEY

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YOU CAN BE ON A WEBSITE RIGHT LIKE THIS

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AND THAT'S WHY THEY CALLED ME A GIRL FROM INTERNET

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THAT'S HOW I END UP IN 80

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IT STARTED IN 2007 AND NOW AFTER 19 YEARS I'M STILL THERE

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I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE

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BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO SCRIBBLE IT ON PAPER ANYMORE RIGHT

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AND NOT EVERYONE HAD HAD

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IT WAS LIKE JUST COMPUTERS BUT AT THAT MOMENT IT'S

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IT WAS THE RISE OF THE INTERNET AND TO BE A DIGITAL SALES MANAGER

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YOU HAD TO LEARN HOW TO USE HTML

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YOU HAD TO BE A COPYWRITER AND THE DEVELOPER A LITTLE BIT

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AND A SALESPERSON ALL TOGETHER

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THAT GAVE ME LOTS OF SKILLS AND IN A YEAR I EARNED FOR MY FIRST

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CAR AND I WAS VERY COOL STUDENT AT THAT MOMENT

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HA HA BECAUSE YEAH IT WAS HARD BECAUSE NO ONE COULD SHARE EXPERIENCE

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NO ONE COULD TAUGHT ME TEACH ME BUT LATER ON I BECAME A SALES TRAINER

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THE PERSON WHO TAUGHT ANOTHER MANAGERS

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NICE WHAT CAR WAS IT SO I FROM MY SIDE

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SO I GUESS THE FIRST CAR ALWAYS IS EMOTIONAL SO WHAT WAS IT

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THAT WAS A ORANGE A CHEVROLET AVEO

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THE SMALL ONE BUT IT WAS A COMPLETELY NEW FROM A SALOON

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AND I WAS VERY HAPPY TO DRIVE TO UNIVERSITY ON MY LAST YEAR IN UNI

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BY MY CAR AND I REMEMBER AFTER CLASSES

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I WAS DRIVING TO MY CLIENTS AND THEY WERE SAYING HEY

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IT'S A GIRL FROM INTERNET GAME

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GIVE YOUR MONEY BECAUSE WE WERE

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IT WAS A SUBSCRIPTION LIKE A MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION

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BUT AT THAT MOMENT THE CONCEPT OF SUBSCRIPTION DID NOT EXIST

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IT WAS LIKE JUST GIVE YOUR MONEY

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NICE COOL

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SO SO YOU INTRODUCED THEM THE SUBSCRIPTIONS

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THAT'S VERY NICE HMM

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YEAH WE INVENTED SUBSCRIPTION BEFORE IT ACTUALLY STARTED BECAUSE

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SO THAT WAS YOU OKAY

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IT WAS ME IN UKRAINE THE WORLD DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT

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OKAY COOL

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YEAH IF YOU PAY

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IF YOU PAY FOR A YEAR YOU GET A DISCOUNT

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OF COURSE

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THE CLASSICAL SUBSCRIPTION MODEL

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THAT'S VERY COOL

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I'M HAPPY THAT YOU BROUGHT IT TO UKRAINE

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AND YOUR OTHER COMPANIES

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WHAT WERE THEY ABOUT OR WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST

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SELF FOUNDED

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AFTER I GUESS 5 YEARS

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WORKING WITH THIS WEB DESIGN STUDIO

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THAT BECAME A REAL CITY SITE COMPANY

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I FOUND IT TOGETHER WITH THE FOUNDERS OF THAT COMPANY

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MY FIRST CO FOUNDER

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WE BECAME A CO FOUNDERS AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY A STARTUP

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BUT AGAIN IN 2,013

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IT WAS NOT SUCH CONCEPT OF STARTUP

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IT'S A DIGITAL BUSINESS THAT CAME FROM SCRATCH

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IT'S A STARTUP RIGHT WE WERE SELLING

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LIKE A FIRST OF ALL

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I I HIRED MY DEVELOPER'S TEAM AND WE CREATED A SOFTWARE TO

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TO DESIGN PHOTO BOOKS BOOKS WITH THE PHOTOS

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BUT THE BUSINESS MODEL WAS BASED ON SELF SERVICE

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PEOPLE COME TO THE WEBSITE

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USE OUR SOFTWARE AND CREATE DESIGNER PHOTO BOOKS

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WE WERE OFFICIAL FOUNDER

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PARTNERS OF INSTAGRAM

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SO PEOPLE CAN GET AUTOMATICALLY THEIR PHOTOS FROM THE INSTAGRAM

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BUT TO MAKE THIS COMPANY BRING ME MONEY

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I WASTED LOTS OF MONEY ON DEVELOPERS

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BECAUSE TO WORK EFFECTIVELY WITH THE IT GUYS

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YOU NEED TO KNOW THEIR LANGUAGE

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YOU HAVE TO BE A PRODUCT AND PROJECT MANAGER TO ESTIMATE

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TO GIVE THE PROPER TASKS BECAUSE ONCE I

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YOU KNOW THAT I REMEMBER VERY GOOD THAT STORY WHEN I ASKED

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COULD YOU PLEASE ADD THE BUTTON ON THE WEBSITE

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OKAY AFTER 2 DAYS I OPEN THE WEBSITE

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THERE IS A BUTTON BUT WHEN YOU CLICK IT

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IT DOES NOT LEAD ANYWHERE WHOSE FAULT IS THAT

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THEY ASKED SAID KATRINA YOU ASKED TO ADD THE BOTTOM

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WE ADDED THE BOTTOM

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THERE WAS NOTHING TASK THAT THE BOTTOM SHOULD LEAD SOMEWHERE

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THAT STORY TAUGHT ME VERY BIG LESSON

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THAT BEING ABLE TO FORMULATE PROPER TASKS WILL SAVE YOU MUCH TIME

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AND TIME IS MONEY WHEN YOU ARE IT'S YOUR COMPANY

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SO YOU LEARNED IT THE HARD WAY SO THE EXPENSIVE WAY

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YES AND NOW THAT IS THE BEST LEARNING RIGHT

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SO THIS ISN'T THE BEST IF IT DOESN'T COST YOU YOU DON'T KNOW AS AS

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YEAH I INVESTED MORE THAN HUNDRED THOUSAND

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EUROS IN THAT SOFTWARE IN SEVEN YEARS

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ALL TOGETHER WE EARNED QUITE A LOT AND

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EVEN FORBES YOU KNOW THAT BUSINESS JOURNAL

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THEY PRINTED ME AS A SUCCESSFUL BOOTSTRAPPER

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THE PERSON WHO DOES NOT

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ATTRACTS INVESTMENT BUT REINVEST MONEY

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I'M VERY CONSCIOUS ABOUT MONEY MAKING IN CALCULATING HMM

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HOW TO MAKE THE COMPANY PROFITABLE

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I TOLD YOU WHAT I'M PROUD OF

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I FOUNDED FIVE COMPANIES AND ALL OF THEM WERE PROFITABLE

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BECAUSE IT'S MY OWN MONEY

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I CALCULATE THEIR TIMING

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THE ESTIMATED TIME

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HOW IT REALLY TAKES WHETHER INVEST TIME AND MONEY IN SOME TASK OR NOT

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SO THEY I LEARNED IT IN A PRACTICAL

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VERY PRACTICAL WAY AND NOW IN UNIVERSITY

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I'M TEACHING STUDENTS AND THAT TOPIC OF SMART OBJECTIVES

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BUT YOU ACTUALLY CAN USE SMART

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YOU KNOW SPECIFIC MEASURABLE

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ACHIEVABLE RELEVANT AND TIME BOUND

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YOU CAN USE THIS FORMULA FOR EVERYTHING

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NOT ONLY FOR OBJECTIVES BUT ALSO FOR TASKS

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FOR GOALS

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FOR DELEGATING AND I ALWAYS TELL THEM I'VE LEARNED THIS LESSON

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IT TOOK ME MUCH MONEY TAKE IT FOR FREE NOW

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YEAH I CAN TOTALLY AGREE

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YEAH SO THAT'S VERY COOL

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SO

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THE PHOTOBOOK SOFTWARE IS SIMILAR TO SEVER

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DO YOU KNOW IT SO WHAT YOU CAN DO I GUESS IN DM

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YEAH EXACTLY

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YEAH WE DID THE MARKET ANALYSIS OF GERMANY AND THIS SEVER

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THEY QUITE POPULAR

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AND THE LIKE ADVANTAGE THAT THEY HAVE OFFLINE PRESENCE IN ALL DMS

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BUT DISADVANTAGE IS ACTUALLY USER INTERFACE

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THE INTERFACE IS COMPLICATED

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AND MY COMPANY'S INTERFACE WAS MUCH BETTER

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OVERALL WE MANAGED TO ATTRACT 80,000 CLIENTS

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PER SEVEN YEARS

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AND WHAT I'M PROUD OF THAT 53% OF SALES EVERY MONTH WERE RETENTION

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SO IT'S A REPEATED CUSTOMERS WHO HAD THEIR SECOND

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THIRD FOURTH ORDER BECAUSE THE HEALTHY COMPANY

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IF IT'S A

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B TO C SEGMENT WILL EARN MONEY ONLY WHEN THEY ATTRACT NEW CLIENTS

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BUT THEY ALSO HAVE A RETENTION THAT CLIENTS COME BACK

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NOWADAYS

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THE COST PER ACQUISITION IS SO HIGH THAT YOU ACTUALLY CAN EARN MONEY

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IN MOST CASES ON A SECOND

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THIRD SALES

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THAT'S WHY USER INTERFACE AND CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE IS SO IMPORTANT

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YEAH I CAN IMAGINE

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AND THE OTHER

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STARTUPS THAT YOU FOUND IT

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SO THE FIRST WAS VERY COOL

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NO THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE LAST ONES

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THE FIRST COMPANY WAS ORIENTED ONLY FOR MY CITY

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FOR MARIUPOL

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GROWING GROWING

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AND I WAS AFTER I FOUND THE SECOND COMPANY

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AFTER HALF A YEAR I SOLD THE FIRST ONE

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THEN I FOUNDED THE THIRD COMPANY AND I SOLD THE SECOND ONE

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AND IT WAS LIKE STEP BY STEP

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THE GROWING PLAN

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AND THAT LAST COMPANY WE SOLD FRANCHISE FOR SEVERAL COUNTRIES

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BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAR

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WHEN RUSSIA ATTACKED MY COUNTRY

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EVERYTHING STOPPED IN ONE DAY AND THAT WAS VERY PAINFUL EXPERIENCE

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BUT MY LESSON IS CONTINUE BUILDING

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EVERYTHING MIGHT BE RUINED IN ONE DAY BUT CONTINUE BUILDING

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THAT'S THAT'S VERY COOL AND EVEN YOUR

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SO THAT YOU DON'T GIVE UP

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I REALLY APPRECIATE AND COOL THAT YOU ARE HERE NOW IN

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IN HOPEFULLY VERY SAFE HERE AND

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COOL THAT YOU CAME HERE AND CONTINUED AND THAT YOU

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TEACH YOUR EXPERIENCE TO STUDENTS NOW IN POLAND

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YEAH I DID NOT EXPECT THAT GERMANY WILL TAKE US SO WITH OPEN HEART

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AND THAT WAS TOTALLY UNEXPECTED AT THAT SITUATION

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WHEN YOU ARE COMPLETELY DOWN ON THE BOTTOM OF EVERYTHING

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YOUR COUNTRY SUPPORTED ME AND MY FAMILY TREMENDOUSLY

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AND I HAVE THIS DEEP GRATITUDE AND IT WILL BE WITH ME FOREVER

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AND THAT'S WHY NOW I AM COMMITTED TO THE SOCIETY AS MUCH AS I CAN

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I'M MENTORING STARTUPS

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I'M MAKING FREE OF CHARGE SPEAKING IN DIFFERENT NGO PROGRAMS

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BECAUSE WHEN I WAS IN NEED

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PEOPLE HELPED ME NOW WHEN I HAVE WHAT TO SHARE

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I HAVE A LOT ON MY PLATE BECAUSE OF EXPERIENCE AND ENERGY

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SO I'M GIVING IT BACK AND I ALWAYS

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SAY ONCE YOU WILL BE WITH A FULL PLATE

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YOU HAVE TO CONTINUE SPREADING THE KINDNESS IN THE WORLD

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I THINK IT'S THE ONLY WAY HOW WE SHOULD LIVE AND SURVIVE

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THAT'S SO TRUE AND I'M SO HAPPY THAT YOU DO SO

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ALWAYS REMEMBER THE TIMES WHEN YOU WERE DOWN SOMEONE GAVE YOU A HAND

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SO GIVE YOUR HAND WHEN YOU GET UP

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WE ARE NOT FINISHING YET BUT THIS IS MY LIFE PHILOSOPHY

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AND I'M SPREADING THIS WORD TO EVERYONE

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THAT'S WHY THE MENTORSHIP WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING IN NEW INDUSTRY

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MENTORSHIP IS VERY IMPORTANT

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I SEE A WOMAN WHO ARE SWITCHING THEIR CAREERS AND THEY WANT TO BECOME

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I DON'T KNOW PROJECT MANAGER OR DEVELOPER

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IT'S VERY

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VERY CORRECT AND PROPER PATHWAY WHEN YOU ASK SOMEONE TO MENTOR YOU

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SOMEONE WHO ALREADY SUCCEEDED AND WHEN I CAME HERE

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I STARTED MY LIFE FROM SCRATCH

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AND I WAS WRITING PEOPLE IN LINKEDIN AND ASKING

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I WANT TO LEARN FROM YOU WOULD YOU HAVE A 30 MINUTES CALL

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AND YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE TOLD ME YES

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YOU CAN'T IMAGINE BECAUSE WHO SUCCEEDED

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THEY KNOW HOW IT'S BEEN IN THE BEGINNING OF YOUR PATHWAY

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AND THEY HELP YOU IT JUST

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YOU HAVE TO ARTICULATE IT WITH YOUR OWN WORD THAT YOU NEED A HELP

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THIS IS MY SECOND MESSAGE

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NOT TO BE SHY TO ASK FOR HELP AND TO BE OPEN TO IT

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YEAH I GUESS THAT EVEN HELPED YOU WITH SALES OR MAYBE YOU

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YOU TRAINED IN SALES BECAUSE

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TO BE IN SALES

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EXERCISE IS LIKE REJECTION RIGHT

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YOU ALREADY HAVE A NOSE SO I GUESS THAT'S A MANTRA INSIDE RIGHT

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THE THE NO YOU ALREADY HAVE BEFORE ASKING SO

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BEFORE SELLING OR BEFORE GETTING HELP

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YOU ALREADY HAVE A NO SO WHEN YOU ASK OR WHEN YOU TRY TO TO SELL

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YOU CAN ONLY LIKE WIN OR GAIN MORE

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YES THAT WOULD NOT BE TRUE IF I SAY THAT I DON'T

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I'M NOT AFRAID OF REJECTIONS OR I TAKE IT EASY NO

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IT'S STILL HARD AND IT'S STILL PAINFUL FOR EVERYONE

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TO TAKE REJECTIONS IS PAINFUL

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JUST WHEN YOU'RE HAVING IT IN YOUR MIND THAT ONE MORE INJECTION

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ONE MORE REJECTION WILL LEAD YOU TOWARDS YES

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YOU WILL JUST DO IT AND ALSO IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT

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VERY OFTEN NO IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU

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IT'S ABOUT THE PERSON THE PERSON MIGHT BE BUSY TOO MANY DEADLINES

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IT'S NOT NO TO YOU PERSONALLY

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IT'S JUST ALLOW PEOPLE TO SAY

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YOU KNOW IN THAT WAY YOU WILL TAKE IT MUCH EASIER

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DID IT WITH REJECTIONS

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IS SOMETHING VERY PAINFUL FOR ALL PEOPLE IN THEIR WORLD

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IF YOU THINK THAT THE MOST SUCCESSFUL SPEAKER

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DOES NOT AFRAID OF REJECTIONS YOU ARE WRONG THEY ARE

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BUT JUST TO DO IT TO YOU GET USED TO IT YEAH

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I CAN IMAGINE YEAH

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SO YOU HAD AN IPHONE MOMENT

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I REALLY LIKE THAT SO SO THAT STEVE JOBS INSPIRED YOU

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SO YEAH FOR ME ALSO THE THE IPHONE SPREAD IT MY

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MY WORLD MY DIGITAL WORLD AND TO TO BE ABLE TO USE INTERNET

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EVERYWHERE WAS A BIG MOMENT FOR ME ALSO

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BUT COMING BACK TO THE MAIN TOPICS OF THE PODCAST

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SO WOMEN IN TECH AND TO INSPIRE

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GIRLS AND WOMEN

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WHEN YOU WERE YOUNGER

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DID YOU HAVE ANY SPECIALITIES DURING MAYBE IN FAMILY OR SCHOOL

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WERE YOU INTERESTED IN

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IN MATH OR STEM OR ANYTHING OR WAS IT JUST BY LUCK

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LIKE YOU SAID IN THE FORM THE JOB KIND OF JOB APPLICATION

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OR HOW DID YOU FEEL ABOUT STEM AND MASS IN IN NO

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I HAVE THIS SYNDROME OF EXCELLENT STUDENT

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SO I GRADUATED FROM SCHOOL WITH ALL BEST MARKS

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I GRADUATED TO UNIVERSITY WITH A DISTINCTION

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AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I AM NOT PROUD OF

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I DON'T WANT MY DAUGHTER TO BE AN EXCELLENT STUDENT

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I WANT MY DAUGHTER TO BE HERSELF

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BUT THAT WAS IT'S OUR STORY OF MILLENNIALS

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SO I WAS GOOD WITH MATH BUT NOT SOMETHING THAT I'M OBSESSED WITH

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OBSESSED WITH THE HUMAN RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE LANGUAGES

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BUT I JUST WANNA SHOWCASE

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WITHOUT A TALENT OR IN MATHEMATICS OR PHYSICS

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YOU STILL CAN MAKE MONEY IN IT

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BECAUSE I THINK THIS TECHNOLOGIES IS PART OF OUR WORLD

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AND DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND OF TALENTS YOU HAVE

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YOU CAN FIND YOUR PLACE YOU CAN BE A DEVELOPER OR YOU CAN BE A TESTER

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THE Q&A TESTING

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OR YOU CAN BE ADVISOR OR PROJECT MANAGER OR DIGITAL MARKETER

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THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT ROLES WHICH NEED DIFFERENT TALENTS

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OR YOU CAN BE A GOOD IN SALES

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AND YOU CAN MAKE BUSINESS WHEN YOU ORGANIZE TECHNICAL COOL MINDS

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THE DEVELOPERS AND CREATE A PRODUCT

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YOU CAN DO EVERYTHING

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VERY INSPIRATIONAL THANK YOU

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AND SO YOU ALREADY KIND OF SPOILED YOUR LEARNING

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SO THAT YOU LEARNED BY WASTING LITTLE MONEY

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SO LIKE WAS YOUR PROJECT ABOUT THE PHOTO

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PHOTO TOOL BUT DID YOU LEARN ANYTHING ELSE OR WHAT WOULD YOU DO OTHER

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LOOKING AT YOUR CAREER PATH SO FAR WHAT WOULD YOU DO DIFFERENT

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I THINK YOU NEVER STOP LEARNING

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EVEN NOW I'M A STUDENT OF UNIVERSITY FOR AI

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NOT ONLY IN TECHNOLOGICAL WORLD EVERYWHERE

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YOU HAVE TO UPDATE YOUR KNOWLEDGE CONSTANTLY

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AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE IT AS A NEW

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PICTURE OF LIFE LIKE NON STOP LEARNING

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LIKE UPGRADING YOUR KNOWLEDGE

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SO I WAS TAKING LOTS OF DIFFERENT COURSES

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READING ARTICLES AND I STILL DO THIS LISTEN TO PODCAST

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WHENEVER I I SEE SOMETHING THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND

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I'M TRYING TO ASK AI PLEASE EXPLAIN ME

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I STILL BEING A UNIVERSITY LECTURER HAVING LOTS OF EDUCATIONS

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I STILL DON'T KNOW A LOT A LOT IN THE WORLD

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AND EVEN EVEN I SAY MY STUDENTS IN THE CLASSROOM

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WE ARE ROOM FULL OF SMART PEOPLE

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IF I DON'T KNOW SOMETHING WE WILL FIND THE SOLUTION TOGETHER

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DON'T LIKE BE AFRAID TO ASK HARD QUESTIONS LIKE DEEP QUESTIONS

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WE WILL FIND I'M NOT WIKIPEDIA

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YOU'RE NOT WIKIPEDIA

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EVERYONE IS NOT WIKIPEDIA BUT WE HAVE A AI WHICH KNOWS EVERYTHING

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SO IT'S FINE TO FIND OUT WHAT WE DON'T KNOW

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SO LEARNING NON STOP

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IT'S OK AND THINKING HAVING THIS IMPOSTER SYNDROME

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I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH I'LL TAKE ANOTHER EDUCATION AND THEN I WILL START

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THAT IS A WRONG STRATEGY

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BECAUSE BY THE MOMENT WHEN YOU WILL FINISH THAT EDUCATION

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SOMETHING ELSE WILL APPEAR AND YOU WILL STILL AGAIN WILL NOT KNOW IT

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YEAH SO COULD YOU HAVE TO MENTION IT

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I GUESS IN ALMOST EVERY EPISODE I RECOGNISE SO IMPOSTERS

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SO YEAH MOST OF THE WOMEN LIKE YOU SAID

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JUST WANT TO GAIN KNOWLEDGE BEFORE OR EXPERIENCE BEFORE

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SO LIKE A HAND EGG PROBLEM AND

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DON'T HAVE ENOUGH COURAGE

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SO I GUESS IT'S IT'S VERY WIDESPREAD SO EVEN THAT IS A REASON TO

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TO HAVE THE PODCAST SO TO INSPIRE MORE WOMEN

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I'M HAPPY THAT THAT YOU MENTIONED IT SO START BEFORE YOU ARE READY

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I GUESS EXACTLY WHO SAID IT FIRST FIRSTLY BUT YEAH

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JUST START WHERE WHEN WHEREVER YOU ARE IN THE PAST

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START YOU CAN YOU CAN BECOME BETTER ON THE WAY

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HUNDRED PERCENT NO ONE IS READY ENOUGH

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YOU BECOME READY WHILE YOU ARE DOING AND YOU'RE SAYING HMM

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I'M NOT SO BAD

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YOU KNOW WHAT

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I HAVE A METHOD OF HYPOTHESIS AND IT HELPED ME SEVERAL TIMES IN LIFE

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DRAMATICALLY DO YOU WANT ME TO SHARE THAT

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SO WHEN YOU FEEL THAT

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YOU ARE NOT CONFIDENT ENOUGH YOU ARE NOT SURE WHICH PATHWAY TO TAKE

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YOU BUILD A HYPOTHESIS IT SHOULD HAVE A TIME BOUNCED AND SOME KPI

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YOU SEE IT LOOKS LIKE A SMART OBJECTIVE

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BUT THIS IS HYPOTHESIS

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WHICH MEANS I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN MAKE MONEY AS A DEVELOPER

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OR I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN MAKE MONEY AS A BUSINESS CONSULTANT

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BUT I CAN TRY IT AND IN THIS MOMENT YOUR BRAIN IS SAYING YOU LIKE OK

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YOU TRY HOW LONG YOU GONNA TRY WHEN YOU STOP TRYING

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SO FOR THIS TRAP

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YOU ARE BUILDING THIS HYPOTHESIS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE I CAN EARN

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I DON'T KNOW THREE CLIENTS IN ONE MONTH

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THAT WOULD BE INDICATOR THAT I CAN DEVELOP

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AND I SHOULD DEVELOP THIS DIRECTION ONWARD

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AND AFTER 1 MONTH OF TESTING

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MAYBE THAT WOULD BE HYPOTHESIS FOR 3 MONTHS

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BUT NOT LONGER IT SHOULD BE SOME

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SMALL PERIOD OF TIME BUT ADEQUATE PERIOD OF TIME

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SO YOU CAN TEST IT AND SAY OK

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I SUCCEEDED I ACHIEVED MY KPIS IT

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IT SHOULD NOT BE YOUR PERFECT KPI

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IF YOU WANT TO EARN 10,000 PER MONTH

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BUT AFTER THREE MONTHS YOU EARNED 3K

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IT'S GOOD ENOUGH TO CONTINUE TESTING THIS HYPOTHESIS

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OR IT MIGHT BE A CASE THAT YOU TESTED AND YOU HAD LIKE ZERO

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YOU INVESTED ALL YOUR FOCUS

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EVERYTHING IN THIS HYPOTHESIS AND IT FAILED

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SO IT'S A SECOND IMPORTANT POINT

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THAT WHILE YOU ARE TESTING A HYPOTHESIS

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YOU ARE NOT FOCUSING ON ANYTHING ELSE

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SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAVE SEVERAL IDEAS

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SHALL I BE A I DON'T KNOW WEB DESIGNER OR A SALES MANAGER

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SO CHOOSE ONE DIRECTION

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TEST A HYPOTHESIS AND THEN YOU WILL MAKE DATA BASED DECISION

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VERY GOOD I GUESS THAT IS ONE OF YOUR LESSONS RIGHT

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THAT YOU TELL YOUR STUDENTS ALSO RIGHT

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THAT IS ONE OF MY LIFE LESSONS THAT I LEARNED

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I'VE TESTED BECAUSE WHEN I CAME TO GERMANY

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I BUILT IT MY LIFE FROM SCRATCH

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AND I TESTED MY HYPOTHESIS AS A STARTUP ADVISOR

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IS A AGILE PROJECT MANAGER

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MANAGER AS A UNIVERSITY LECTURER AS A BUSINESS CONSULTANT

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HERE AM I I'M DOING BOTH I'M OFFICIAL ENTREPRENEUR IN GERMANY

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I'M PAYING TAXES I'M DOING BUSINESS CONSULTANCY

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AND I'M ALSO WORKING IN UNIVERSITY AS A FULL TIME LECTURER

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BUT BEFORE I STARTED THAT I TESTED SEVERAL HYPOTHESES

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SOME OF THEM FAILED

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WHAT WAS ONE OF YOUR RECENT HYPOTHESIS THAT YOU TRIED

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ONE OF MY RECENT WAS IF I CAN WRITE A BOOK OR NOT

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SO I HAD I GAVE MYSELF A MONTH JUST TO SEE IF I CAN START

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IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO WRITE A WHOLE BOOK IN A MONTH

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YEAH BUT WE KNOW THAT HYPOTHESIS IS FOR SOME SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME

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THAT YOU

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WILL MAKE A DECISION IF YOU CONTINUE DOING THAT DIRECTION OR NOT

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SO I STARTED TO DO IT BY MYSELF

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AND I'VE SEEN THAT I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DISCIPLINE

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I ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE BOOK IS A BIG PROJECT

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AND WHEN YOU DON'T SEE THE FINAL RESULT

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THE LAST PAGE YOU ALWAYS THINK OK POSTPONE POSTPONE

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IT'S NOT SO IMPORTANT

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BUT MY MOTIVATION THAT THIS HYPOTHESIS WILL BE SUCCESSFUL WAS BIGGER

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SO I HIRED A MENTOR FOR A BOOK

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AND WHEN YOU HAVE A PERSON WHOM EVERY WEEK YOU COME TO THE MEETING

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AND YOU SHOULD SHOW SOMETHING

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IT MOTIVATES YOU YOUR DISCIPLINE

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SO I PAID FOR SOMEONE TO GENERATE SOME INNER DISCIPLINE IN MYSELF

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AND I'M HAPPY CAUSE NOW I AM HALFWAY PAST OF THE BOOK

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CONGRATULATIONS

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I KNOW

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YOU KNOW YEAH YEAH

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DO YOU ALREADY HAVE A DEADLINE

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I GUESS

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FOR ME ALWAYS DEADLINES MAKE ME MORE CREATIVE AND YEAH MORE PRODUCTIVE

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BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAVE A DEADLINE OR OR NOT

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YEAH

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I HAVE MY GOAL THAT IT WILL BE PUBLISHED ON AMAZON IN THIS YEAR

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:

BUT BECAUSE IT'S A SUCH A LONG AND YOUR BRAIN STARTS SAYING OH

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YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME

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SO I DECIDED TO MAKE A

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A CHAPTER EVERY DEADLINE FOR EVERY CHAPTER AS WELL

541

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SO I MADE A TIMELINE FOR THE YEAR AND LIKE ALLOCATED DEADLINES

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SO IT WILL BE MORE ADEQUATE TO FINISH IT ON TIME

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VERY NICE

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:

COOL SO YOU HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF YOUR START UPS

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:

AND THAT YOU DISCOVERED IT QUITE LATE

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:

AND NOW YOU'RE EVEN DOING AN AI MBA

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:

DO YOU YOURSELF SEE AS A WOMAN IN AI OR TECH IT

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:

AND IF I SEE MYSELF WOMAN IN TECH

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BECAUSE I STARTED AS A IT SALES MANAGER

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THEN I HAD TO I BECAME ENTREPRENEUR IN IT SECTOR

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AND TO BECOME A SUCCESSFUL ENTREPRENEUR

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I HAD TO LEARN LOTS OF TECHNICAL STUFF

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I KNOW HOW TO BUILD IT PRODUCTS

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I KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THE DEVELOPERS

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I CAN ESTIMATE TASKS PROJECT MANAGEMENT ETCETERA

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SO I WOULD SAY THAT I'M NOT A TECHNICAL PERSON

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:

BUT I UNDERSTAND IN TECH

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AND WHAT MADE ME UNDERSTAND THE TECH

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BECAUSE I JUST WANTED TO MAKE MONEY ONCE YOU WANT TO EARN

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:

YOU ARE SEEING WHAT STEPS YOU HAVE TO DO TO MAKE IT YOU AHA

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:

I NEED THAT SKILL AND I NEED THAT SKILL

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:

AND IT'S LIKE A CHAIN OF A NECKLACE

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YOU ARE PUTTING ADDITIONAL BITS AS A SKILLS

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:

AND YOU ADD WHAT YOU ARE MISSING

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:

SO LIKE IT IS YOUR IKIGAI SO SO YOU ARE TALENTED IN

566

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UNDERSTANDING IT

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:

PEOPLE YOU CAN SELL AND YOU KIND OF ENJOY IT OR IS IT DIFFERENT

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:

HMM I CAN'T SAY THAT I'M TALENTED IN IT

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BUT I ENJOY IT

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I LEARNED IT AND YOU KNOW

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YOU LIKE WHAT YOU KNOW BUT WHEN WE COME TO THIS WORLD

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WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING

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:

SO WE ARE LEARNING SOMETHING AND WE START LIKING THAT

574

:

SOME PEOPLE WILL SAY OH

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I LOVE PLAYING PIANO BUT BECAUSE YOU KNOW HOW TO PLAY PIANO

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WHEN YOU ARE LEARNING TO PLAY PIANO

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YOU'RE NOT VERY MUCH IN LOVE WITH IT OR WHEN YOU START SKIING

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:

IT'S SO PAINFUL BUT ONCE YOU LEARN IT

579

:

YOU ENJOY THIS FRESH AIR GOING TO YOUR FACE

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:

SO FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LEARNING A LIKE IT SECTOR

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IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE ENOUGH PATIENCE AND VISUALIZE THAT PICTURE

582

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WHEN YOU WILL BE ENJOYING FROM PUTTING

583

:

THINGS TOGETHER AND SEEING RESULTS

584

:

SEEING THE RESULTS IS QUITE A GOOD STUFF

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:

VERY NICE

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:

SO YOU'RE VERY EARLY OR KIND OF EARLY STARTED WITH INTERNET AND

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:

DIGITAL PRODUCTS

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AND IN GENERAL

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IN UKRAINE HOW

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:

HOW IS IT ABOUT DIGITIZATION AND ABOUT WOMEN IN

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:

IN TECH IS IT SELDOM OR IS IT LIKE

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:

50% OR

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:

HMM THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION

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:

I WOULD SAY IT'S NOT THE 50% BUT ALMOST 50%

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:

I DON'T SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN INDUSTRIES

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:

THE WOMAN CAN BE A DOCTOR OR A WOMAN CAN BE A SPACE ENGINEER

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OR A WOMAN CAN BE IT ARCHITECT

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PERSONALLY THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION

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I THINK THAT WOMEN AND MEN CAN DO ANY JOB

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IN MY COUNTRY

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WE ARE QUITE DIGITALIZED AND I WOULD SAY EARLY DIGITALIZED

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:

AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE THE COUNTRY IS POOR

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:

SO ONCE YOU IMPLEMENT DIGITALIZATION

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:

IT

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:

COST YOU LESS MONEY

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:

YOU NEED TO HIRE LESS PEOPLE AND THESE ECONOMICAL PROBLEMS

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:

I THINK PUSHED US FOR MORE DIGITALIZATION

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:

YEAH THANK YOU FOR YOUR INSIGHTS FROM UKRAINE

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:

I ALREADY HAD SOME

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:

INTERNATIONAL GUESTS SO LIKE ONE WAS FROM IRAN

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:

WHERE IT IS QUITE WIDESPREAD SO THAT I GUESS LIKE

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:

SI 60% OF THE ENGINEERS ARE FEMALE ALREADY

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:

SO IT'S VERY INTERESTING TO HAVE IT

614

:

DRIVEN INSIDE FROM UKRAINE ALSO

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:

YEAH AND IN GENERAL

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:

YOU ALREADY INSPIRED US WITH A LOT OF STORIES AND

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:

AND YOUR SUGGESTIONS BUT

618

:

LIKE IT'S TRADITION HERE WHAT WOULD BE YOUR LAST WORDS

619

:

SO FOR FEMALES OR OTHER YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN TECH

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:

IN THE TECH WORLD DO YOU STILL HAVE MORE FROM

621

:

I WOULD SAY TWO THINGS THE FIRST ONE

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:

A PART OF LEARNING HARD SKILLS

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LEARN ALSO AS SOFT SKILLS LIKE SELF PRESENTATION PITCHING

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:

MAKING CONTENT SHOW UP ON LINKEDIN

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:

DON'T THINK THAT PEOPLE BORN WITH THE ABILITY TO SPEAK

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:

TRUST ME IT'S A SKILL THAT YOU CAN LEARN AND A SECOND IDEA

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:

PLEASE

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:

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PLEASE PLEASE

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PLEASE

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HEAR ME

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PEOPLE CAN EARN MONEY ON ANYTHING

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ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE PASSION FOR

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IF YOU HAVE PASSION ON CLEANING

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:

YOU CAN BE A BILLIONAIRE BUILDING A FACILITIES COMPANY

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:

IF YOU HAVE PASSION IN DEVELOPING

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:

YOU CAN EARN MUCH MONEY ON THAT DIRECTION

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:

IT MIGHT SOUND CLICHE LIKE FOLLOW YOUR HEART

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:

BUT IT'S NOT A CLICHE

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:

WHEN YOU ARE DOING WHAT YOU TRULY LOVE THAT ENERGY

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:

YOU CANNOT FAKE IT IT'S PURELY CAN FEEL THAT YOU HAVE IT AND PEOPLE

642

:

WHO HAS ENERGY IT'S THE BIGGEST RICHNESS IN THE WORLD

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:

SO ONCE YOU HAVE PASSION FOR SOME DIRECTION

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:

IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF A TIME

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:

WHEN YOU WILL FIND THE PROPER BUSINESS MODEL

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:

HOW TO MONETIZE IT BUT DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS MY PASSION

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:

BUT I WILL EARN MONEY ON SITTING AND DOING BORING JOB

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:

NO NO NO

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:

IN THE AGE OF AI EVERYONE DESERVE EARNING MONEY ON THEIR TRUE PASSION

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THANK YOU

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:

YEAH VERY

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:

VERY COOL STATEMENT THANK YOU

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:

AND I GUESS

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:

EVERYBODY SEES AND HEARS YOUR PASSION

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:

THANK YOU KATE

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:

THANK YOU THANK YOU DAVID

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:

IT'S A PLEASURE FOR ME THAT YOU INVITED

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I WANT TO SPREAD THE WORD

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:

I WANT TO THANK GERMANY FOR SUPPORTING PEOPLE AND FEMALE AND EVERYONE

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THANK YOU MY BIG HEART TO ALL PEOPLE

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THANK YOU SEE YOU SOON BYE

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