This podcast episode meticulously explores the intricate dynamics of relationships and the concept of being 'played' or exploited within them. We delve into a critical examination of how both men and women navigate the often treacherous waters of romantic entanglements, highlighting the subtle nuances of emotional manipulation. The discussion is punctuated by personal anecdotes and societal observations, revealing the complexities of expectations, reciprocity, and the often unspoken rules governing modern dating. Our dialogue emphasizes the importance of recognizing these patterns to foster healthier connections, ultimately advocating for self-awareness and emotional intelligence. Join us as we unravel these themes, offering insights to empower our listeners in their personal relationships.
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Speaker B:This week on the five minute warning.
Speaker C:I talked about this before.
Speaker C:I ain't never met a chick that thought she had mediocre pussy.
Speaker B:The show that gives you everything and nothing at all, that's everywhere you don't want to be.
Speaker B:It's Reuben Low B.
Speaker B:And on the ones and twos, AG.
Speaker A:The five minute warning.
Speaker A:Five minute warning.
Speaker A:Of course, as always, it's your man Reuben here to help guide you in the world that we live in.
Speaker A:I ain't got nobody.
Speaker A:I'm just giving a whole bunch of opinion.
Speaker A:But hey, it is what it is.
Speaker A:And of course, with me is my cousin AG.
Speaker B:What's happening, y'?
Speaker C:All?
Speaker B:How you doing?
Speaker A:And the man with a plan, the guy who tells it like it is all the time, my boy Mo B.
Speaker C:What's going on?
Speaker A:I got a little different camera shot this time.
Speaker A:Coming from the top.
Speaker A:I see it.
Speaker A:Nice, nice.
Speaker A:How's everybody doing?
Speaker A:How's everybody's weekend?
Speaker A:Good.
Speaker A:Good and different.
Speaker B:Pretty good.
Speaker B:Pretty good.
Speaker A:About you, Moby, you good?
Speaker A:Oh, Moby.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, I'm good.
Speaker C:I'm just trying to adjust my camera.
Speaker A:It's all good.
Speaker A:It's all good.
Speaker A:So, man, I mean, it was crazy week.
Speaker A:We'll get into a couple brief things and then we'll get into the highlight of our show.
Speaker A:So, AG man, first of all, we had this thing called the NCAA winners tournament this weekend.
Speaker B:Pretty good.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:I did not watch the game today, but shout out to ucla, congratulations on their first women's title ever in school history.
Speaker A:But let's just be real.
Speaker A:The championship was on Friday when, well, at least for South Carolina was on because they did the work on UConn.
Speaker A:But that's not what we had to talk about, bro.
Speaker A:Is it me or did Gino Oriyama was the absolute typical old dude after.
Speaker A:After the game was over because his team got the ass kicked.
Speaker B:Well, let's call it what it is.
Speaker B:He was A typical old white guy that got beat by atypical in a good way black woman.
Speaker B:Let's call it what it is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:If you're going to say, call it what it is, say everything.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:So I mean like, and I'm.
Speaker A:I'm gonna be that guy.
Speaker A:And as much as I appreciate the apology, bro, it was an apology that.
Speaker B:Wasn't he ready, whatever the hell.
Speaker C:Yukon prepared a statement on his behalf that they said was from him.
Speaker C:They said recruits were backing out.
Speaker C:So UConn prepared a statement on his behalf.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, remember after the press.
Speaker C:Conference, Gino said he had nothing to apolog, fool.
Speaker A:Yeah, he was strict white old white dude on that.
Speaker C:I mean, crazy.
Speaker C:It's the problem.
Speaker C:He was angry.
Speaker B:He was angry about stuff that never even happened.
Speaker C:It's the problem when, when, you know, so many people are okay with white people being accomplices.
Speaker C:I mean, being, being allies.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Gino used to come off as an ally.
Speaker C:And this is what happens with allies when shit gets tough.
Speaker C:You know, he turned into the old white man that was bitter.
Speaker A:He sure did.
Speaker A:And on top of that, man, like,.
Speaker C:Honestly, he turned into a.
Speaker C:And it's not the.
Speaker C:He's done that.
Speaker A:That's really.
Speaker C:I was about to say before the, before the press conference even happened.
Speaker C:Like before the whole third quarter thing happened.
Speaker C:Like, I was talk.
Speaker C:We were watching the game and I was talking to my wife and I was like, I don't really like Gino.
Speaker C:I don't like his get down because every time shit goes bad, he's like this.
Speaker C:And I'm like, yo, this is no shade to him because he had to be a good coach to have it happen.
Speaker C:But there was about a 25 year run in which all he had to do was roll the ball out there.
Speaker C:He used to have all, like, all the talent went to one or two, Tennessee or UConn.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker C:And now that the, the playing field has spread out a little bit more, it seems like he's been struggling.
Speaker C:And I'm not saying he's not a good coach.
Speaker C:I'm just saying, you know, it ain't no fun when the rabbit got the gun.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker B:I can always count on you, sir.
Speaker B:I can always count on you.
Speaker A:But, but here's the thing, man.
Speaker A:Like so one, yes, he is definitely typical old white guy because he got his ass kicked.
Speaker A:Guys ask it, but I'm taking from a different angle.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Was he wrong?
Speaker A:Hell yeah, he was wrong.
Speaker A:But you know who I'm going to throw some blame at?
Speaker A:That nobody really has.
Speaker A:And it's probably foul, but I'm going to do it anyway.
Speaker A:Yo, man, how about the fucking Big East Conference, bro?
Speaker A:Like, they basically sleepwalk through the conference play and see his.
Speaker A:And the reason why I say that is because then you have Dan Hurley talking in the men's side was like, yo, man, Biggie's play is so tough.
Speaker A:By the time we get into the NCAA Tournament, we're looking at teams who don't play the season, the.
Speaker A:The type of game we play, right?
Speaker A:And they're just like, I love.
Speaker A:He was like, I love being in a tournament because when we play in the Big East, I mean, shit, we.
Speaker A:It's a.
Speaker A:It's a.
Speaker C:You never know.
Speaker A:St. John's now creeping up and deciding to do some work, you know, and stuff like that.
Speaker A:So I'm going to blame the conference because I feel like they adequately did not have not prepared UConn for this.
Speaker C:Can I ask you a question, though?
Speaker C:What conference could have prepared them for this?
Speaker A:Well, hold on for a second.
Speaker A:I'm about to tell you, because as I'm watching, makes sense.
Speaker A:The SEC is physical, at least in women's basketball and men.
Speaker A:Y. Yeah, but not liking women's basketball, women's basketball, super physical.
Speaker A:I mean, Texas won the shit.
Speaker A:The tournament, right?
Speaker A:South Carolina won the regular season championship.
Speaker A:But see, the SEC is super physical, is super tough.
Speaker A:And basically what happened was, I mean, what you ran into, what they ran into Friday was a whole bunch of sec, tough physical play.
Speaker A:Because when they played South Carolina before It was in UConn, it was.
Speaker A:It was in.
Speaker A:In Connecticut.
Speaker A:And so you're not gonna necessarily get the calls, the physical calls that you're gonna get.
Speaker A:And I mean, they pissed off Sarah Strong so much, she ripped her own damn jersey.
Speaker A:Like, I mean, yeah, she's getting physically hit.
Speaker A:She's not used to that shit.
Speaker A:And then there's.
Speaker A:They're used to being up so far ahead that never.
Speaker A:That never comes into play.
Speaker A:So they couldn't shoot the physical.
Speaker A:Just Yukon track came out being physical and was just like, what?
Speaker A:This ain't nothing.
Speaker A:And that's why I think they messed up.
Speaker A:They did not play their game.
Speaker A:They tried to play South Carolina's game, and South Carolina was like, oh, we here for that.
Speaker A:Let's go.
Speaker A:And it was down here from there.
Speaker A:But I'm getting a side eye from Mo B.
Speaker A:So it sounds like he seems like he has something to disagree with me on.
Speaker C:It's not about disagreeing.
Speaker C:I just love how we always play the whole revisionist history game.
Speaker C:Truth of the matter is they run like, what, 54 games in a row?
Speaker C:And they weren't playing all cupcakes.
Speaker C:Like, they just happened to play.
Speaker C:They just had one of their worst shooting days at the worst possible time against a team that was going to be pressuring you.
Speaker C:And here's the thing.
Speaker C:They play you.
Speaker C:South Carolina played the same type of game against them that they played against UCLA today.
Speaker C:The difference is UCLA was making shots.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker A:Like, and I'm not gonna say a lot.
Speaker C:A lot of.
Speaker C:And a lot of what we're talking about is UConn played a really bad game.
Speaker C:Now, you're right.
Speaker C:South Carolina, the SEC has multiple teams that play super physical.
Speaker C:Like, it's just a style of play.
Speaker C:And, yeah, I wouldn't say the Big east does them a disservice by not preparing them.
Speaker C:I would say if you drop Yukon in most conferences, they're going to run through it.
Speaker C:Except maybe the sec, and we're talking about three other teams in the sec.
Speaker C:They pretty much would roll through everybody else, too.
Speaker C: t just so happens the SEC has: Speaker A:Well, I mean, as much that I agree with you definitely on that, I guess the other thing is, like.
Speaker A:I mean, and I'm.
Speaker A:I'll say it like, yo, man, did they have a close game in the Biggies?
Speaker C:No, they didn'.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker C:They only had.
Speaker C:No, no, they did not.
Speaker C:In the Big East, I think it.
Speaker A:Was out of conference game.
Speaker C:Michigan was the only team that they beat by single digits.
Speaker C:But once again, like, you're blaming them or blaming the conference.
Speaker C:You're.
Speaker C:You're blaming other people because the other people hadn't been good enough to push them.
Speaker A:What do you want them to do?
Speaker C:Because they didn't play a cupcake schedule like, they.
Speaker C:They played the Michigan.
Speaker C:They played quality opponents in other conferences.
Speaker C:They just happened to be of him.
Speaker C:And like, as much.
Speaker C:As much as I'd love to just on Gino right now, I can't on the team and just be like, I can't pretend that 54 wins in a row didn't happen.
Speaker A:No, no, no, I.
Speaker A:No, I agree with you.
Speaker A:I guess more what I'm saying is, like, their schedule's the same every year.
Speaker A:They play Tennessee now they play South Carolina.
Speaker A:You know, they play like.
Speaker A:I get it.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:Basically, you just said they play all the traditional power teams.
Speaker A:Well, they're traditional.
Speaker A:Well, Michigan, I mean, I don't know if Michigan's a power female basketball team.
Speaker A:I mean, they're.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna sit here and say they're like top 10, but I'm gonna.
Speaker A:What I am gonna say is, I mean, they didn't play ucla.
Speaker A:They didn't play Texas.
Speaker C:You can't play everybody.
Speaker A:All I'm.
Speaker A:But all I'm saying is you're just nitpicking right now.
Speaker C:You basically look, this ain't.
Speaker C:This ain't Seth Green.
Speaker C:This.
Speaker C:This ain't Virginia Tech days where they played, like, the cupcake schedule of all cupcake schedules.
Speaker C:Like, they play quality people.
Speaker A:They just played a couple quality people.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:How many out of conference games do you think they get, dog?
Speaker C:Like, I'm just.
Speaker C:How many other conference games do you think you get?
Speaker A:Very, very.
Speaker C:I'm just saying, you know, it's almost like the Roy Jones Jr. Line, man.
Speaker C:It's not that they ain't play nobody.
Speaker C:They just made everybody look like nobo.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker A:Because Roy Jones G did people up, and it didn't look like he played anybody, but he fought anybody, but he ended up fighting a lot of people.
Speaker A:He just made him look bad.
Speaker C:I mean, because, like, the same.
Speaker C:The same thing that you're gonna say about, like, UConn and what exposed them, I was saying before this national championship game.
Speaker C:I said it in the Final Four game when they were playing UConn.
Speaker C:I was like, this is not the best South Carolina.
Speaker C:You know why?
Speaker C:It's not the best South Carolina team.
Speaker C:The best South Carolina team I saw happened a couple years ago when they had pow.
Speaker C:Pow.
Speaker C:You know why?
Speaker C:Because she could shoot.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And South Carolina never has anybody that can shoot.
Speaker C:They got a whole bunch of great athletes.
Speaker C:They play great defense, but if you.
Speaker C:Oh, you didn't watch the game.
Speaker C:But the game today, UCLA basically just said, hey, y' all can shoot them jumpers.
Speaker C:We gonna just.
Speaker C:All of us.
Speaker C:All five of us are gonna stand in the paint and we're gonna.
Speaker C:You know what?
Speaker C:We know none of y' all motherfuckers.
Speaker C:And poor Tessa was out there just playing by herself.
Speaker A:She's the only one who can shoot.
Speaker C:Well, she's not a great shooter, but, I mean, she's the one that can create a shot.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And here's the thing.
Speaker C:And this is not an indictment on them.
Speaker C:Like, because my wife was like, hey, why don't they have shooters?
Speaker C:It seems like they would be able to recruit shooters.
Speaker C:And I'm like, a lot of shooters don't necessarily want to go play for dawn in the way that she wants to Play.
Speaker C:And I was like.
Speaker C:Because it takes a lot of energy on defense to play the way she wants to play.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And you can't play with all that energy and then have legs to shoot.
Speaker C:Like, a lot of shooters are like, hey, man, I'm good on it.
Speaker C:Like, we talk about Steph Curry and how much running around he does on offense.
Speaker C:We don't never talk about him doing a lot of running on defense because it's.
Speaker C:At some point in time, it's like, hey, buddy, I gotta be.
Speaker C:I can't be running all the time.
Speaker A:I mean, Steph didn't get drafted for his defensive prowess.
Speaker B:Well, that's.
Speaker C:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker C:But, yeah, South Carolina was really, really dangerous when Pow Pow transferred there and played the year when they won the championship, because it was like, if you just got one of them.
Speaker C:If you just got one person out there that you're just like, oh, shit, we can't leave her alone because we know she can shoot.
Speaker C:It opens everything up.
Speaker C:Basically, UCLA was just like, y' all can take any jumper you want.
Speaker C:You, you, you, you.
Speaker C:And you can shoot all the jumpers you want because you know, we don't can make them.
Speaker C:And today they didn't.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, look, look, if.
Speaker C:If South Carolina would have had their best shooting performance today, they probably would have blew UCLA out.
Speaker C:Because you.
Speaker C:They.
Speaker C:They got all types of open looks.
Speaker C:They did blow a lot of layups, too, but I should say blow a lot of layups.
Speaker C:But, I mean, you say LA is kind of big, so you are shooting layups over a 6 foot 7 giant and another 6 foot 4.
Speaker B:Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Speaker B:I got to push back on you.
Speaker B:They missed a lot of open layups, too.
Speaker B:They did.
Speaker C:They didn't miss open labs.
Speaker C:Did miss some contested ones, too.
Speaker C:And once they start missing a few.
Speaker C:Once they started missing a few, it was over with.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I do wanna.
Speaker A:This is why, like, I do.
Speaker A:You know, I'm gonna say my bad, because Moby.
Speaker A:Moby be right.
Speaker A:So I'm gonna give him the man his flowers.
Speaker A:The closest game that UConn had all year was Michigan by three points.
Speaker A:Everybody else was a blowout.
Speaker A:And as far as who they.
Speaker A:The first game of the season, they won by 13.
Speaker A:That was against Louisville.
Speaker A:Then there's the Florida State.
Speaker A:I mean, Ohio State, Utah, USC was ranked when they played and beat the shit out of them.
Speaker A:Iowa, they beat the shit out of them.
Speaker A:They played a Biggie schedule.
Speaker A:They did play Tennessee.
Speaker C:You're saying all the names of the women's schools that are typically good.
Speaker C:So, like, what I'm saying is they didn't play a soft schedule, but I.
Speaker A:Was also incorrect because I thought they played South Carolina.
Speaker A:They did not.
Speaker C:No, they didn't.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But yeah, the toughest team they played was Michigan.
Speaker A:So I will give you your props on that.
Speaker A:Like, but I will say, I mean, I think it's fair to make a statement that every year they sleepwalk through the biggies, turn the biggies regular season.
Speaker A:And so, you know, whether that is because the biggies can't get talent or they can't get the amount of talent,.
Speaker C:It's not about talent.
Speaker A:Like,.
Speaker C:I feel like.
Speaker C:I feel like you still talk about women's college basketball through the lens of men's college basketball.
Speaker C:There really is still that much of a disparity in talent.
Speaker C:You can't name but, like, 10 talent elite programs.
Speaker C:You can name other teams that every couple years will pop in there and be good.
Speaker C:But, like, traditionally, like, with women's college basketball, it's like 10 solid programs, and that's an expansion from, like, 20 years ago.
Speaker C:I probably would have said, like, three or four.
Speaker C:Like, now it is, like, it's still the talent.
Speaker C:Talent.
Speaker C:It ain't just a matter of, like, the ACC is going to be good, the SEC is going to be good.
Speaker C:It's like, no, every conference.
Speaker C:This is like, the first year the SEC had like, two or three teams that you were like, which one's going to win?
Speaker C:Because for a while it was South Carolina and LSU battling.
Speaker C:Everybody battling.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And it wasn't really LSU fight.
Speaker C:They just, like, played competitive games.
Speaker C:But really.
Speaker C:Yeah, they weren't really beating South Carolina.
Speaker C:They just were in games, made it sound or feel compelling, but it wasn't.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So most conferences are like, that.
Speaker A:Fair.
Speaker A:So I'll give you that.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:But in the grand scheme of things, I think the one thing we all agree with is REM was being a little white.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And that's what it was.
Speaker A:Because I'd never really seen that from him, which was weird.
Speaker C:See, no, it's.
Speaker C:It's peaked.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's peaked out a lot.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:But because he doesn't lose a lot, so it really peak out when they lose, which, look, I'm not saying anybody has to be a good sport losing, because there are a lot of people who don't lose.
Speaker C:Well, that's.
Speaker C:But it's.
Speaker C:It's the level of acidness that came out of him on that stage.
Speaker C:Because, you know, my wife pointed it out.
Speaker C:Like, we watched the Texas game as well.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And when Texas lost, they shook hands.
Speaker A:And moved it on.
Speaker C:No, not even that.
Speaker C:The senior.
Speaker C:Senior.
Speaker C:They took the senior out 10, 10 seconds before the game, and the coach is hugging her and talking to her, and they had a moment.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, yeah, they had a moment because, like, you know, this her last game, she's, like, winning.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:The most winningest player there.
Speaker C:And you can see it just spill out of her where she felt, you know, it hit her all at once.
Speaker C:And he's talking to her, and he hugs her, and it's like, yo, that's the coach I want to play for.
Speaker C:Not that that walks off the court while we're out there.
Speaker C:Cr.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's that.
Speaker A:That was that straight.
Speaker C:Here's the thing.
Speaker C:The crazy thing is, like, when.
Speaker C:When Malky from LSU does outlandish wild, her players and former players still come to bat and defend her.
Speaker C:Have you heard one person defend Gino?
Speaker A:Nope.
Speaker C:That's an indictment right there.
Speaker C:Like, no.
Speaker C:Nobody coming to his aid, being like, hey, I know it was a bad moment, but that dude did this.
Speaker C:This.
Speaker C:Nobody has said that.
Speaker C:Everybod at that moment and was just so.
Speaker C:That means the people that played for him looked at him and was like, that place that fits.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker C:That's the person I know he can be.
Speaker C:All those other great things, too.
Speaker C:But it's what it seems like is nobody's really surprised.
Speaker C:Nobody really came to the aid.
Speaker C:Like, everybody was just like, hey, that's a terrible move.
Speaker C:It's a bad look.
Speaker C:He should have never did.
Speaker C:Nobody is going, oh, man, that's just so out of character.
Speaker C:I don't know what could have happened.
Speaker C:Nobody said that.
Speaker C:Nobody wanted to down that hill.
Speaker C:That tells me all I need to know about that, man.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker A:And I. I would say, like, kitty, can we.
Speaker A:So the other part was, I don't know, for selective memory or he just didn't know.
Speaker A:I'm gonna give him the grace that he didn't know.
Speaker A:But still, I think you should know, kind of.
Speaker A:Somebody should have told you that Sarah Strong ripped her own damn jersey.
Speaker C:Not only that, he said.
Speaker C:He said, hey, somebody ripped her jersey.
Speaker C:That didn't happen.
Speaker C:He said, don didn't shake my hand before the game.
Speaker A:They have it on video.
Speaker A:I don't know if that's his Alzheimer's or what.
Speaker A:Like, I was like, you were there, motherfucker.
Speaker A:No, from the chick.
Speaker C:Look, man, at the end of the day, no matter how much good some of them do, Reuben, when shit hits the fan, they can become an old white Trumper, basically.
Speaker C:He's like, hey, don't believe what you saw.
Speaker C:Believe what I'm telling you.
Speaker A:I mean, I guess my thought is, because you saw Sarah Strong change her jersey, did you not ask why her jersey got ripped?
Speaker C:Here's the thing.
Speaker C:In the heat of the game, I could understand you not knowing that.
Speaker C:That press conference after.
Speaker C:Or that interview after the third quarter, stupid interview.
Speaker C:But I could understand.
Speaker C:Heated a moment, passionate.
Speaker C:You thought she got fouled, jersey ripped, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker C:Now, by the time you get to the post game press conference, somebody should have let you know.
Speaker C:Somebody should have let you know, which means the rest of your coaches don't with you either, because ain't nobody.
Speaker C:Ain't nobody try to help you, but ain't nobody coming like, hey, hey.
Speaker C:You know, she kind of did that on her own.
Speaker A:And then, yo.
Speaker C:And she didn't say, coach, I did that on my own.
Speaker A:And did you see the.
Speaker A:The tall black assistant coach he was, like, trying to protect.
Speaker A:Hey, Coach, get the.
Speaker A:Out the.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Because Coach was coming at Dawn Staley, and she was like, no, no, no.
Speaker A:I'm just like, you know, you listen to your own goddamn assistant coach who's trying to get you from.
Speaker A:I mean, what you going to do?
Speaker C:You gonna hit?
Speaker A:Don't state, like, what are we doing?
Speaker A:Like, I just didn't understand it.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:It came out of absolute nowhere.
Speaker A:Like, I just kept.
Speaker C:I just kept feeling like, had the roles been reversed, acting like that don't stand.
Speaker C:I can't imagine the visceral hate that will be coming out about just black women in general and why they can't be leaders or in charge of anything.
Speaker A:And that's why Don Stanley carries herself in such a manner, because she understands that everything she does is looked under a microscope.
Speaker A:And when.
Speaker A:If she were to do something like that.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:Like, it's crazy.
Speaker A:Like, for instance.
Speaker A:I mean, we about to get off this shit.
Speaker A:But I was really taken aback a little bit.
Speaker A:The UVA fired their women's coach, and she took them to the Sweet 16.
Speaker A:And they ain't been in Sweet 16 in, like, a decade.
Speaker C:First, the first team to come from a playing round to make it to the sweet 16.
Speaker A:I was like, what?
Speaker A:What are we out here doing?
Speaker C:I'm gonna tell you what they out here doing, Ruben, and I'm gonna be that race car guy.
Speaker C:They basically said, hey, it seems like this black lady has got the program in the right direction.
Speaker C:We'll take it from here.
Speaker B:We'll take it from here.
Speaker A:So I saw that and I was like, that's a straight up bullshit right there.
Speaker A:But, you know, hopefully, hopefully somebody good will pick her up and that sort of thing.
Speaker A:Ag, man, you've been super quiet this whole time.
Speaker B:I didn't have anything to say.
Speaker B:I was just listening because everything, you know, you guys are talking about, I don't have enough information to speak about any of it.
Speaker B:Except for the Gina Oriemma thing, because Pat Summitt's been telling us about this dude forever.
Speaker C:I was just about to say Pat Summitt despised that dude.
Speaker B:Yeah, she took the time before she started losing her memory to write this down in a memoir.
Speaker B:So it's on wax, it's on video.
Speaker B:I think Muffy.
Speaker B:I forgot her last name.
Speaker B:She coached Muffet McGraw.
Speaker B:Thank you, Notre Dame.
Speaker B:He acted the same way towards her.
Speaker B:And it was just like he has a legacy of distress respecting women coaches that beat him.
Speaker C:And oh, did you even see hear what he said?
Speaker C:Like, it like, I always, you know, she.
Speaker C:I don't really have much of a relationship with her outside.
Speaker C:I mean, she was one of my assistant coaches.
Speaker C:And you.
Speaker C:I'm like talking about Dawn Staler.
Speaker C:She was one of my assistant coaches on Team usa.
Speaker C:Like, why are you trying to down player?
Speaker C:Like she was one of your assistants.
Speaker C:She's a hall of fame player.
Speaker A:She's won a gold medal.
Speaker C:Like, what we talking about?
Speaker C:She's a hall of fame player in gold medal.
Speaker C:Like, sir, you've got the most outstanding women's college basketball resume as a coach.
Speaker C:Won't give you any, Won't throw any shade at that.
Speaker C:But don't act like her resume ain't elite.
Speaker A:I mean, in comparison.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker A:Cause like, yeah, you got 5 million championships, but amongst everybody else, she right there.
Speaker A:And you know, honestly, you know, a couple mishaps she could have.
Speaker A:There are a couple more.
Speaker A:I mean, you went to tell.
Speaker A:What about the final.
Speaker A:Final four, like six years in a row.
Speaker A:What are we talking about?
Speaker A:Like, yeah, but I will say, I will say some karma was interesting because yesterday on ESPN2, they were doing a tribute to Pat Summit, a live tribute to Pat Summit.
Speaker A:And I can only imagine, like, how crazy, like, because I didn't realize that she hated Gina.
Speaker A:Remember you didn't.
Speaker A:I honestly so bad.
Speaker C:I can see why people might think it was just like competitive.
Speaker A:Like, I didn't know the hate was like that.
Speaker C:But yeah, It's.
Speaker C:It sounds like she does it.
Speaker B:She.
Speaker C:She doesn't think very highly of him as a human being.
Speaker A:Yeah, so, like that part.
Speaker A:So, yeah, man.
Speaker A:I mean, it could have been one of those things where, you know, man, sometimes the past summer, karma comes on your ass and he realizes, boom, got your ass.
Speaker A:But, hey, man, shout out to ucla.
Speaker A:Congratulations.
Speaker C:Everybody say, we spent all this time to not talk about how impressive UCLA was winning the national championship.
Speaker A:Oh, they, they, they did that work, man.
Speaker A:They did that work.
Speaker A:And yeah, like.
Speaker C:And I gotta tell you, man, like, I felt it during the game and I'm glad to get game.
Speaker C:I'm glad the game didn't get as much heat because as I was watching the game, I was like, there is a large segment of America that is so rooting for UCLA right now just because they're like, they're like, that's what we want our girls to look like.
Speaker C:There's such a large segment that was like, that's what we want our girls to look like.
Speaker C:We don't.
Speaker C:We don't want what South Carolina does because aesthetically it could not look more.
Speaker C:More different.
Speaker C:You've got South Carolina out there who, nothing against them.
Speaker C:They just pure athletes.
Speaker C:And then you got ucla.
Speaker C:The girls that do the cheerleader dances with the cheerleaders, it's like, they're just like, this is, this is good old fashioned wholesomeness.
Speaker C:And I'm just like, man, I know there were some people that just were loving seeing South Carolina get beat, you know, Just like, this ain't right, man.
Speaker C:Kell, I'm really happy for UCLA because I became a Bets fan at the Final Four.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, Bets is a beast.
Speaker C:See, it wasn't even about that because, like, she had the cutest post game interview.
Speaker C:And I say cute.
Speaker C:Not demeaning, but I say cute because it's like the joy that we feel like the nil.
Speaker C:And all this stuff takes away from college basketball.
Speaker C:Like, she gets interviewed right after the game.
Speaker C:She's super stoked, you know, her teammates behind her doing all the crowning stuff.
Speaker C:But she's locked in with the interview.
Speaker C:Totally locked in, being serious.
Speaker C:As soon as the.
Speaker C:As soon as the mic goes away, she turns around and her team's there.
Speaker C:And she just says, oh, my God, we're about to play in the national championship.
Speaker C:And they all just start screaming.
Speaker C:And I'm just like, yo, that was awesome.
Speaker C:Like that.
Speaker C:No matter how much people have said it's become transactional in business, I'm just like, I'm such A fan of that?
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Just that pure joy.
Speaker C:And then when you think that those six girls play with each other for four, four years, six seniors, they scored almost all of their points in the national championship game.
Speaker A:And then Laura Bess's sister is there.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker A:So she's coming back next year.
Speaker A:Yeah, man.
Speaker A:It's, you know, my biggest question and it's the topic for never going to happen, but like, I don't understand how Lauren Betts is not the number one pick in the draft.
Speaker A:But whatever, that's just my thing.
Speaker C:People question her actual mobility and ability to switch because like you can play zone in college, can't professional.
Speaker C:So people are worried that, you know, people are going to try to involve her in a lot of pick and rolls.
Speaker C:Make that it's the Rudy Gobert effect.
Speaker C:Like Rudy Gobert is an excellent low pros defender.
Speaker C:But that's why every time teams play.
Speaker C:All right, let's get him out here on the wing and see if he can move laterally, which that's, that's going to be what she's going to have to really prove.
Speaker C:Okay, so I'm glad you're not talking about the, the, the men's college basketball side, cuz I ain't watch.
Speaker C:I don't know about the men's side, which I sound like I'm locked in on this women's side.
Speaker C:I'm like, you talk about the men, I'm just like, hey, I mean, Michigan playing.
Speaker A:All you need to know is Yukon versus Michigan.
Speaker A:Michigan is that.
Speaker A:Is that team.
Speaker A:And UConn seemingly just can't be beat in the tournament.
Speaker A:So wouldn't this be three and four years for them?
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker C:Like low, low key.
Speaker C:Is UConn the best men's college basketball program of like the last 40 years?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And the thing about it is they got one, they got one dude there on that team who is the most winningest college player in the NCAA tournament.
Speaker A:He will be the first person to win three championships ever in the NCAA tournament.
Speaker A:Huh?
Speaker C:Who's that?
Speaker A:Because his last name begins with a K?
Speaker A:Like he was a starter.
Speaker C:He's a starter.
Speaker A:Huh?
Speaker C:Is it white Braylon so foul.
Speaker A:Probably.
Speaker C:I'm just, I'm just saying, like you, you ever seen a white guy named Br.
Speaker C:I felt like somebody like Braylon is a very defining characteristic.
Speaker A:Right there is Alex something.
Speaker A:Is Alex something.
Speaker A:I'm sorry, I can't remember his name right now, but yeah, he will have won three championships in four years.
Speaker A:He will be the first player ever to do so if UConn wins tomorrow, however.
Speaker A:Michigan's a goddamn beast, man.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker C:I mean, my wife asked me who do I think was going to win, and I was like, I think Michigan's going to better team.
Speaker C:I still feel like Yukon's gonna win just because it seems like that's just what they do.
Speaker C:Like, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if Michigan blows him out, but I also wouldn't be surprised if Yukon wins because it's kind of like low key.
Speaker C:Hurley is like slowly etching out a resume to get close to starting to be able to call himself like a Mount Rushmore men's college basketball coach.
Speaker C:And he ain't really been in the game that long.
Speaker C:I mean, he's worked his way up, but I mean, he got a hell of a resume really quick.
Speaker A:I think UConn is one of the last big blood blue bloods or big teams that still recruit players to be there longer than 2 or 3 ish.
Speaker C:But who knows the other programs that do it, it's just hard.
Speaker A:I'm not saying one of the big ones.
Speaker C:I'm saying you can, you can plan to do that.
Speaker C:It don't mean your players are going to stay.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:I bet a lot of coaches, you know, plan or hope that players are going to stay.
Speaker A:I think there's some coaches who don't take us one year.
Speaker A:All right, Come on.
Speaker A:But that's neither here nor there.
Speaker A:But nah, man.
Speaker A:UConn.
Speaker A:UConn's a wagon and Michigan is a.
Speaker A:Is a damn Clydesdale crew.
Speaker A:They got a dude hurt from Michigan.
Speaker A:The dude played on a partial McNamara there and went 3, 4 for 3 point land in the second half.
Speaker A:Partial MCL.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I have no idea who's gonna win.
Speaker A:It's probably gonna be good, though.
Speaker A:I'd watch it.
Speaker A:I mean, I probably will watch some of it, so is what it is.
Speaker A:But let's talk about what we had to talk about today.
Speaker A:Now.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:I think it's a fair statement that for the most, most part men have.
Speaker A:We've talked about this before how men have been simps, at least at the beginning of their lives and things as such.
Speaker A:They don't really know what the to do.
Speaker A:And they, you know, they say women are smarter than men and all that.
Speaker A:And for the most part, you know, I also feel like a statement that might be worth saying that some men actually are hitting sometimes outside of their comfort zone and they run into a young lady or a woman runs into a young man who has the ability to basically make themselves.
Speaker A:And so the question of the day is very simple.
Speaker A:How do you know that you're getting played, slash used, slash taken advantage of, you know, And I think this is a fair thing.
Speaker A:What's going on, Melanie Fuzz.
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker A:How you doing?
Speaker A:I. I think it is one of those things where we can equate it to both.
Speaker A:To both men and women, because, I mean, yeah, there's some.
Speaker A:There's some men out here who are sex.
Speaker A:But, Joe, there are some women who allow themselves to be taken advantage of as well.
Speaker A:And so, you know, I think it's fair to talk about this on an equal footing because, yes, you have.
Speaker A:You have those women who makes dude buy everything and do everything, and he gets little to nothing other than the joy of making her happy.
Speaker A:And there are some women who are ride or die for.
Speaker A:Sorry, Who.
Speaker A:Hey, man.
Speaker A:They're just happy to be with this dude, even though he out there doing what he wants to do and slamming other chicks and all that other stuff.
Speaker C:So, I mean, that's.
Speaker C:That's one way to put it.
Speaker C:I think they just.
Speaker C:On their journey to change someone.
Speaker C:I could change them.
Speaker C:I mean, hey.
Speaker A:I mean, women fixes people, women fix men, and dudes have captive saber hoes.
Speaker A:So, like, once again, I think we're.
Speaker A:I think the situation where they both kind of come together, and I think you're right.
Speaker C:You saying you're saying the same thing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I think, honestly, a lot of these traits probably occur on both sides of the.
Speaker A:Of the aisle.
Speaker A:So I think ag.
Speaker A:So give me.
Speaker A:Give me a thing that.
Speaker A:That to.
Speaker A:To make you okay, man.
Speaker A:If, you know, they say simping ain't easy, but apparently sometimes it is, you know?
Speaker A:So, like, how do you know as a guy like, you being sent.
Speaker A:You being sent to some woman, whether it's your girl or who you think is your girl or whatever, first thing.
Speaker B:That comes to mind is sex.
Speaker A:Lack of.
Speaker B:Well, yeah, that's the first thing.
Speaker B:But sometimes a woman can give you some, and then you have.
Speaker B:You've gotten that taste, and you want to taste that again, that sweet nectar.
Speaker B:And then after that, she doesn't give you anything.
Speaker A:That's bullshit.
Speaker B:But she still wants something, something from you now and then to keep you on the line.
Speaker B:She will.
Speaker B:She will.
Speaker B:She'll give you.
Speaker B:She'll give you a notion in your mind that you about to get some, but you're really not.
Speaker B:And she knows that.
Speaker B:But because you have that, she's put that.
Speaker B:She's planted that seed in your head that you're gonna get some, then you perform.
Speaker B:Even you perform at a higher level based on what she wants.
Speaker C:First one's free, baby.
Speaker C:All dealers know you.
Speaker C:First one's free.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Because now they're gonna be chasing that high forever.
Speaker A:Strawberry.
Speaker A:Strawberry.
Speaker C:So high forever.
Speaker B:So for the, for the sex part, that's kind of where.
Speaker B:The way it is.
Speaker B:And I don't really agree with your assessment, I think at the beginning of all this, because when a man is a simp, we're.
Speaker B:We're simps and it's our own fault.
Speaker B:When women get used, it's usually a man's fault.
Speaker B:They don't really have the.
Speaker B:We don't really have the right.
Speaker B:They don't really have to carry the full weight of being an idiot.
Speaker A:Well, and, and that's.
Speaker A:And I understand that.
Speaker A:However, in the.
Speaker A:I mean, if we remove like that part, you can't.
Speaker A:It's still the same.
Speaker B:I hear what you're saying, but you can't because you're letting them off easy.
Speaker C:I'm.
Speaker C:I'mma agree with ag on that.
Speaker C:You can't.
Speaker B:Can't remove it like, because if, if someone hurts, if someone uses Moby's daughters, he's not going to look at her and go, you're an idiot.
Speaker B:What are you doing?
Speaker B:He is going to be pissed if he sees his kid in the street.
Speaker A:I don't know about Moby.
Speaker B:No, no, no, no.
Speaker B:I mean, I'm telling you, two things.
Speaker C:Can be true at the same time.
Speaker C:I'm gonna be pissed and I might think it, you're an idiot.
Speaker C:But I won't say it because I love him, man.
Speaker B:I, I actually, I actually don't know.
Speaker B:Now I understand why you would feel that way because we all know you.
Speaker B:As far as that goes, we all know you.
Speaker C:My first reaction is going to be.
Speaker B:Mad, but see, that's my whole point.
Speaker C:He should reaction.
Speaker A:No, see, and that's my point.
Speaker B:That's my whole point.
Speaker B:We talked about this.
Speaker C:That's why can't be the same.
Speaker B:Talked about this last week.
Speaker B:Men, emotionally, in a way in which, unlike women, we are looking for approval from women.
Speaker B:I know I do.
Speaker B:For my, my woman and you know, I don't have any problems there.
Speaker B:She wants to give it to me.
Speaker B:That's not an issue.
Speaker B:What I'm saying to you is I still chase her approval.
Speaker B:Everything I do, I am looking for the attaboy from her.
Speaker B:That approval from her, that is a very strong emotion.
Speaker B:So it's like women, women it's, it's the same thing, but it's, it's cataloged differently.
Speaker B:They don't have to take the full weight of being blinded by, you know, the sex or how much they like someone or love someone or the, you know, I don't even know what it is when you just want to chase something.
Speaker B:You just into it.
Speaker B:Nothing else matters.
Speaker B:They don't have to carry the full, full weight of their flaws in this whole thing.
Speaker B:So for me, when you say what you said, you're letting them off for easy already.
Speaker B:I don't even want to participate in this because it's like, no, that's not what's going on here.
Speaker B:But honestly, when somebody, whether it's sex or being treated nice, that's the second thing women do.
Speaker B:It's like if somebody starts holding basic human rights, respect and reciprocation hostage based on how you perform and what you can give them, well, you already know you're being used.
Speaker B:Because what I found in life is that people that are genuine, they're either, they're there's either a high level of reciprocity or their love, affection and respect is free.
Speaker B:It's free because they're willing and able to give it to you.
Speaker B:The women and people and men that you're talking about, that's not the case at all.
Speaker B:Especially from, you know, from, you know, women, they live in a place where they can withhold already for whatever reasons.
Speaker B:So they use sex as a weapon.
Speaker B:They use kindness as a weapon.
Speaker B:They use being respectful as a weapon.
Speaker B:Yet you have to perform at a really high level to maybe get respected, to maybe get, you know, some sex, to maybe get being treated nicely.
Speaker B:So women have a special thing going on.
Speaker B:They already, they already have a superpower that says I can withhold from you as a weapon, and it's your job to put up with me and stay.
Speaker B:That's already a basic thing.
Speaker B:So, so when it gets to be really extra, that's when you really know that you're being used.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Because they getting something for nothing all the time.
Speaker B:And if you really, like I told you last week, if you really want to know how somebody is, write it down on a piece of paper who they are and then ask yourself, are you going to sign up for this?
Speaker B:And this is coming from a guy who has been used plenty of times.
Speaker B:You already know.
Speaker B:Every time I hear from you, it's like you're asking me for something.
Speaker B:But when I ask you for something, you're not available.
Speaker B:You don't change for Me, I change for you.
Speaker B:I'm always conforming.
Speaker B:I'm always putting up with this or that or the other.
Speaker B:It's ridiculous.
Speaker B:You don't get anything out of the deal.
Speaker A:So, like, I hear you, and I. I agree with you.
Speaker A:But you're saying that men, Some men don't do the same thing to women.
Speaker B:I'm not saying that at all.
Speaker B:I'm saying that women don't.
Speaker B:They have special.
Speaker B:They have special powers.
Speaker B:And as a dude, it's hard for a dude to.
Speaker B:To manipulate and use a woman because women can do things because they can.
Speaker B:And then if they find out how to weaponize it, it's like, man, it's all bets are off at that point.
Speaker B:You have to be somebody, really.
Speaker B:As a dud, I really do feel like you have to be someone really special because, like, just take a pimp, for instance.
Speaker B:It takes a really special person to be a pimp.
Speaker B:It just does.
Speaker A:Yeah, but.
Speaker A:But everything that you said, Ag, I would say that there's some dudes who do the same thing to women.
Speaker A:I'm not.
Speaker B:I'm not quite.
Speaker B:What I'm saying to you is not.
Speaker B:I'm not saying that men can't.
Speaker B:I'm telling you that women have an added advantage to do it in a way in which is much more acceptable and successful in society.
Speaker C:Ag, I'mma try to.
Speaker C:I'mma try to let.
Speaker C:Get Reuben to understand this.
Speaker C:Reuben, I hear what you're saying.
Speaker C:I understand.
Speaker A:I understand.
Speaker C:No, no, I understand the logic you're trying to apply to it.
Speaker C:But here's the thing.
Speaker C:What ag is saying is all women can do takes a special dude to be able to pull it off.
Speaker C:That's the difference.
Speaker C:Because you're right.
Speaker C:Absolutely.
Speaker C:There's some guys that get away with it, and you go, damn, how are you getting away with this?
Speaker C:But almost every.
Speaker C:No, no, I'm gonna venture off and say every single woman in your life has done this to some guy.
Speaker C:And maybe not the example that ages, but every single woman has played her advantages to get some guy to do something that she wanted or needed in that moment, and she planned on reciproc in no way.
Speaker C:Every woman, okay?
Speaker C:Your friend, your cousin, your mama, everybody.
Speaker C:Every woman has done it.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker C:They've done it.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So basically, it's just something.
Speaker C:They make a habit of doing it.
Speaker C:I'm not saying that's characteristic.
Speaker C:I'm just saying at some point in time, they.
Speaker C:They knew a guy like them and they was hungry.
Speaker C:Or they knew A guy that liked them and they noticed that their tire was flat.
Speaker C:It's like, I'm just.
Speaker C:Here's.
Speaker C:Here's the thing.
Speaker C:I'm not mad at them.
Speaker C:I'm not.
Speaker C:I'm just pointing out it happens like so.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And I understand that.
Speaker A:Like, I'm not sitting here like.
Speaker A:No, no, no.
Speaker A:I complain.
Speaker A:Understand it.
Speaker A:You know, I. I just think that is also important to.
Speaker A:To sit here and say equally that, man, we ain't.
Speaker C:Look, bro, there.
Speaker A:There's a.
Speaker A:There's no equal.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:So don't say it so like that.
Speaker C:A women support groups where they basically just talk about how ain't so in this moment right now, it's okay for us to just be uneven on this one topic.
Speaker B:It is not okay for Reuben, though.
Speaker B:That's what you're missing.
Speaker B:No, it's not okay for Reuben.
Speaker B:He can't.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:There's no way in the world he going to do that.
Speaker B:Well, no, no.
Speaker A:See, first of all, okay, it's not even.
Speaker A:It's not about me and it being even.
Speaker A:It really isn't.
Speaker C:You know, I know logically.
Speaker C:Logically, you correct, though.
Speaker C:Logically correct.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker C:It does go both ways.
Speaker C:But just like AG said, it's looked at entirely different.
Speaker C:It is.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, definitely in society, you know, it is looked at very differently.
Speaker A:I mean, you know, I. I think that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, because I. I would definitely agree that there have probably been more men simps than women.
Speaker A:I guess what the term.
Speaker A:I don't know what the term would be for women to be.
Speaker A:Who.
Speaker A:Who would be taking advantage of like that.
Speaker A:The idea.
Speaker B:The idea that you don't have a term like on hand that lets you know.
Speaker C:I was just thinking that.
Speaker C:I was just.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's like when Moby says name 10 teams and whatever, whatever.
Speaker B:And you can't.
Speaker B:And he's like, exactly.
Speaker A:Well, I would say a term that'.
Speaker A:I would say a term that's not.
Speaker B:That doesn't make women look too bad.
Speaker A:No, just doesn't.
Speaker A:Yeah, just doesn't.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I mean, because like, man, I've been.
Speaker B:Doing this show with you for too long.
Speaker B:I know what you're doing and what I'm saying.
Speaker C:Some sugar mamas out there.
Speaker C:Yeah, there's some sugar mamas out there.
Speaker C:There's some.
Speaker C:There's some cougars that engage in that behavior.
Speaker A:There's some codependency happening.
Speaker A:Yeah,.
Speaker C:Even those terms seem so much nicer.
Speaker B:Because they are.
Speaker B:Stop it.
Speaker B:Reuben doesn't want to come off the way he gonna come off if you say the exact truth.
Speaker B:And he and you have a history of doing that.
Speaker B:And that's fine.
Speaker B:What I'm telling you is it's not the same when you start talking about disparaging people and disrespecting people and hurting people.
Speaker B:You, you and you can't.
Speaker B:They're, they're, they're different.
Speaker B:They're just different.
Speaker B:I mean, you can't separate it.
Speaker B:And I understand that you're trying to, and I appreciate that.
Speaker B:But what I'm telling you is it's an uneven playing field.
Speaker B:This is one of those double standards that's gonna work in a woman's, in a woman's behalf every time.
Speaker B:And we as men are gonna take a back seat to it almost every time.
Speaker B:Like I said before.
Speaker B:Well, I didn't get a chance to say it.
Speaker B:What I'm saying to you is like, for you in particular, when I'm talking to you in particular, your personality, based on what I know, you couldn't be a pimp.
Speaker B:There's no way in the world you could be a pimp.
Speaker B:For most men.
Speaker B:Now I'm talking in general.
Speaker B:For most men, they might have the skill in the eye, but they couldn't go through with being a pimp.
Speaker B:There's a certain person that, that you have to be to be a pimp.
Speaker A:So do you feel like is if there's a number, like, are you saying that it's probably like 65 of men couldn't do.
Speaker A:Is it aren't built for that type of situation?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Would that be a fair assessment?
Speaker C:I must say it's, it's at least 85.
Speaker C:Like 85 don't have the ability.
Speaker C:10 Out of that 15 don't have the follow through.
Speaker C:4 Out of that remaining 5% don't have the commitment to being an.
Speaker C:Like that.
Speaker C:And then you have that elite 1% that can put it all together.
Speaker A:I don't understand how.
Speaker A:I know many of them.
Speaker B:And then, but see, now, now I go back to the, the labels that you couldn't think of, except for you said cougar.
Speaker B:And what else.
Speaker B:What else did you say?
Speaker A:I didn't say cougar.
Speaker C:Sugar mama.
Speaker B:Oh, sugar mama.
Speaker B:Both of those things carry a lot of power.
Speaker B:There's nothing about those things that are an associate or that come from a place of weakness or in some way is not an alpha type of ownership title.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Because if you're a cougar, you're hunting.
Speaker B:If you're a sugar mama, you hurt.
Speaker A:Own the game, I think we would determine, I think I did say it earlier, the terminology that we would really use to our friends who are in that situation, we would call them Captain Saber Hoes.
Speaker A:Like, because we would feel like, hey, you're trying to like, what it say he's trying to change a hoe to a housewife.
Speaker A:Like, and how weak is that?
Speaker B:How weak is that?
Speaker B:That is incredibly.
Speaker A:I mean, hey, I'm just saying.
Speaker C:So you calling the guys in that scenario as hoes?
Speaker A:I think the guys are saving the hoes or trying to change the hoes.
Speaker B:The hoes already run a game on a dude like that.
Speaker B:So we're not saving anybody.
Speaker B:They let us think that we're saving them.
Speaker B:And that's where it goes back to everything I started saying.
Speaker B:Women in this particular, in this particular conversation have the upper hand in every way.
Speaker B:Even when they lose and they're the ones being used, we will never label them at the idiots like they label us.
Speaker B:It just is not going to happen.
Speaker B:We are always.
Speaker B:And as men, ironically enough, as men, we are going to try to defend this woman.
Speaker B:Just like his first reaction if his daughters were hurt, like that would beat.
Speaker A:Him to get mad.
Speaker A:It's so weird, right?
Speaker A:Because like, like for me, and I can only speak for myself, like in the times that I have been around people who have.
Speaker A:That has happened to.
Speaker A:I mean I, I am, you know, I think Moby would call it victim blaming.
Speaker A:That I would do.
Speaker A:But in the all reality, I'm calling it what it is.
Speaker A:But, but I think what happens is, you know, I'm considered to be blaming the victim when I'm just like, why'd you fall for that stupid.
Speaker A:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:And I'm talking about whether it's a male or female and you know, you know, half is like, come on man, like what are we doing?
Speaker A:Like that sort of thing.
Speaker A:So, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker A:I'm just, I guess for me I can definitely say you're right.
Speaker A:I, I have my own things.
Speaker A:But in society, you are very much correct.
Speaker A:Society itself will not label a woman as being weak in that terminology.
Speaker A:I just think it's more of a, you know, some people do and some people don't as far as like label the person itself.
Speaker A:So I can get, I can get down with that, you know, and I, and I think it's fair that to say that a lot of some people are, are, you know, societal gnomes and some of them aren't, you know, I don't Know, I'm a. I guess I'm a little bit more judgmental, and I kind of call it like a.
Speaker C:A little bit more.
Speaker A:Just a little bit more.
Speaker A:He's famous.
Speaker A:I mean, ain't perfect out here.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm gonna leave that one alone.
Speaker A:Listen, man, I mean, nobody said that was.
Speaker B:I never said that.
Speaker B:You did.
Speaker B:But sometimes when you speak of things, I'm like, what am I doing here?
Speaker B:Like, look at.
Speaker B:Look, man, the bottom line is, let's just make it equal, like you were trying to do.
Speaker B:I'll answer the question.
Speaker B:When somebody is getting more out of the.
Speaker B:Out of the relationship or agreement than you are, or one person is getting everything and you're getting nothing, and you're responding emotionally to it, and then you create a cycle where you get deeper and deeper and deeper with this person.
Speaker B:They're using you, and it doesn't feel good to.
Speaker B:In.
Speaker B:The sad thing about it is not.
Speaker B:And I know from experience, the sad thing about it is you can't get away from it because you don't want to.
Speaker B:You want approval from this person.
Speaker B:You want them to say, hey, my eyes were open.
Speaker B:You know, the.
Speaker B:The light has come on.
Speaker B:I love you.
Speaker B:And, you know, what was I doing?
Speaker B:That day never comes without more stuff that you have to do, or it doesn't come at all.
Speaker B:They just give you a seed that you think is going to grow, but it's not.
Speaker B:Their day dead.
Speaker B:And when you try to sever it, they make that about you too.
Speaker B:Nothing is their fault.
Speaker B:And when you experience all these things, look, go through what you have to go through, but understand eventually that you have to.
Speaker B:You will come to a point to where you need to sever the relationship.
Speaker B:If you have all of the things that I said in your head at any time, at any time, I.
Speaker B:In the relationship, you're being used.
Speaker A:Time to go, plain and simple.
Speaker B:Whether.
Speaker B:Whether a man is using a woman or a woman's using a man or whatever, it doesn't matter.
Speaker B:If you start questioning all the things that I said, then you're being used.
Speaker B:And this is from personal experience.
Speaker B:I was a complete idiot because I. I let my emotions dictate what I was going to do.
Speaker B:And it took that one moment where I snapped in my soul to just let it go.
Speaker B:It shouldn't have took that long, but it did.
Speaker B:So it's like, it is what it is.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:And I get that.
Speaker B:So it's like, whatever.
Speaker B:But I'm like, yo, if you're not getting anything out of the relationship, Then.
Speaker B:And you are expending a lot of energy.
Speaker B:And it doesn't even matter what it is.
Speaker B:It doesn't have to be sex or money or whatever it is.
Speaker B:It could be.
Speaker B:I text this person every day, and they never text me back.
Speaker B:It could be something as simple as that.
Speaker B:Because the emotional transaction is there.
Speaker B:If they're playing games, like, I don't want to seem thirsty, but they're allowing you to be thirsty.
Speaker B:Time to go.
Speaker B:But you also have to have the emotional wherewithal to cut it off, or actually the logical wherewithal to cut it off.
Speaker B:Because your emotions is what got you riled up to start with.
Speaker B:So, again, if you're getting something out of the relationship, this.
Speaker B:This conversation is not about you.
Speaker B:But if you're working at this, I mean, you really working at this, and nothing's coming back your way, I don't care what the intent is.
Speaker A:It could.
Speaker B:And everybody that uses somebody sometimes is not malicious like Mo B.
Speaker B:Was talking about two or three weeks ago.
Speaker B:A lot of women have a problem with reciprocity because they're in their own heads about, you know, being controlled in a power struggle that's not even freaking happening.
Speaker B:Then they take it out on you.
Speaker B:So I don't want to be thirsty.
Speaker B:Meanwhile, you're texting her every day.
Speaker B:But the.
Speaker B:But the thing is, for her, she gets to.
Speaker B:She gets to, like, go to her friends and make you look like you're an idiot for doing something that she actually likes, but she disparages you for it.
Speaker B:Then the first time you don't text her.
Speaker B:Then all of a sudden, it's like, you not consistent.
Speaker B:How are.
Speaker B:How am I the.
Speaker B:You're the one that made me feel like a doofus because I wasn't.
Speaker B:I was doing too much.
Speaker B:Now I stop and trust me, I didn't text you one morning out of the 90 days I've been chasing you.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:Then I'm not consistent.
Speaker B:What's wrong with you women?
Speaker B:Look, man.
Speaker B:Yeah, if you can get it together.
Speaker B:If you can get it together, leave.
Speaker B:And if you can't, I hope that one day you understand that you will snap one day.
Speaker B:Just don't go to jail.
Speaker B:Because that.
Speaker B:Those are the only two choices you have.
Speaker B:You can sit around in a relationship and just snap, hope you don't put your hands on nobody, and then you'll feel better after it's over.
Speaker B:Or you can go through the pain of suffering a relationship with somebody you actually really like.
Speaker B:And that's my answer.
Speaker A:I mean, this generation, the Cool thing about this generation generation is if they snap, they're gonna do it by text message so they don't have to be in front of the person that I have seen, you know, and it's just like, okay, that's what we're doing.
Speaker A:I'm gonna block you.
Speaker C:Yo, that block is weird, bro.
Speaker B:Is it though?
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker A:It's so.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker C:No, no, no, Ag.
Speaker C:It's secret.
Speaker C:It's not weird that somebody would block you.
Speaker C:It's not weird that somebody would say, hey, this person existing in my life isn't healthy for me, so I'm going to block them.
Speaker C:What is weird is when I hear people weaponize the idea of blocking someone.
Speaker C:That you keep doing that shit, I'mma block you.
Speaker C:The fuck block me then.
Speaker C:Why the you telling me about it?
Speaker C:Like,.
Speaker B:The reason, the reason I said that.
Speaker B:Don't ask that question.
Speaker B:Is because none of us have grown up in a place where our entire lives have been engulfed by social media.
Speaker B:We grew up in a time where we were analog, bro.
Speaker B:This is like, you know, telephones and whatnot.
Speaker B:For somebody who exclusively lives in a world in the vacuum of social media too be blocked.
Speaker B:And that's kind of, that's kind of.
Speaker A:Like, you know, that's harsh.
Speaker B:It is in, in that vacuum.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:Cuz I understand what you mean and you're absolutely right.
Speaker B:Block me and whatever.
Speaker B:Because if I really want, I'll just come to your house or I'll call you or whatever.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker B:But if you are immersed in social media, that can be hurtful.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, no, I get it.
Speaker C:I. I be.
Speaker C:Because I'm in that generational gap where I remember the world before and now I know the world after.
Speaker C:I do realize that like.
Speaker C:And like my kids will never understand how weird that is.
Speaker C:Like the idea of like blocking somebody on social media.
Speaker C:Like, why I think that's weird because I'm just like, you know, you could just stop talking to them.
Speaker A:Yeah, my life is over in.
Speaker C:In story.
Speaker A:Like end.
Speaker C:Like the end.
Speaker C:You just stop talking to him.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker C:But like the idea that people will send somebody a message, hey, do not message me back because I am blocking you.
Speaker C:You could have just blocked them or you could have just said, I don't want to talk to you anymore.
Speaker C:And then you could have just blocked them.
Speaker C:You didn't have to announce the blocking.
Speaker C:Like there's.
Speaker C:There's no power in.
Speaker C:That's what it is.
Speaker C:It's a power thing.
Speaker C:It's like there's power and Strength in blocking somebody in a fictitious space that only exists in the cloud.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:Gotta love it, man, until.
Speaker B:Until you find out the person didn't even.
Speaker B:They weren't into you and they didn't know they were blocked.
Speaker B:Now that's hilarious.
Speaker C:See, and that's the thing, like, that's in my head where I'm like.
Speaker C:While the blocking thing could never.
Speaker C:Would never have been able to weaponize against me because I'm not on social media, I wouldn't even know.
Speaker C:Like, I blocked you.
Speaker C:Oh, cool.
Speaker C:Because I ain't been up there.
Speaker A:Anyway, so they block you.
Speaker C:I thought.
Speaker C:Thought you just ain't calling me no more.
Speaker C:Not, you know, I.
Speaker C:Look, I know what being ghosted is like.
Speaker C:We don't have to have any other transaction.
Speaker A:Which is funny that they have a term for that.
Speaker A:Hey, I just don't want to talk to your ass no more.
Speaker A:You are ghosted.
Speaker B:No, actually, if somebody tells you that that's not ghosted, they can't make an announcement.
Speaker B:If you make an announcement, you're not ghosting anybody.
Speaker C:That is my point of the whole blocking somebody and announcing it.
Speaker C:It's like you're doing this wrong.
Speaker C:Like, if you're gonna do it, just do it.
Speaker C:It's like.
Speaker C:Because here's the thing about the whole social media blocking thing, and this is a terrible analogy, and for anybody who thinks I'm making light of this, I'm sorry, I just can't think of anything else to compare it to.
Speaker C:If you tell me every day that you're gonna kill yourself eventually, eventually I'm gonna stop caring about.
Speaker C:About that threat.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker C:It.
Speaker C:It's just a natural human response.
Speaker A:You ain't done it.
Speaker C:It does it exactly.
Speaker C:It doesn't mean I don't care about you.
Speaker C:It just means like, hey, man, we.
Speaker C:We.
Speaker C:We can't keep using the same, like, look, you.
Speaker C:You can only use that bullet once, baby.
Speaker C:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:You can't put it back in the gun and try to shoot it again.
Speaker C:It don't work that way.
Speaker A:I mean, no lies attack there.
Speaker C:To answer your question about, like, when.
Speaker C:When you.
Speaker C: like, I guess it's twofold in: Speaker C:As a guy, the way you know you're being played is like.
Speaker C:Like, if a woman's actually talking to you, period.
Speaker C:Because, like, these modern women seem to have, like, made a habit out of, like, normalizing the idea of everything being transactional, which is fine.
Speaker C:But you also have a problem if I call you a hoe.
Speaker C:It's just A weird dichotomy.
Speaker C:Like, it's like.
Speaker C:Like, look, man, if I know activities when I see.
Speaker C:And I'm not judging you, I'm not mad at you, but I know a hoe when I see one.
Speaker C:Like, if.
Speaker C:If you.
Speaker C:Like, if you tell.
Speaker C:If you make a statement, like, broke don't deserve this.
Speaker C:Oh, so you're a hoe.
Speaker C:I get it.
Speaker C:I get what you're saying.
Speaker C:Like, you saying it's transactional, and I'm okay with transactional.
Speaker C:I feel like things would be a lot more smoother if we just actually approach things with honesty in.
Speaker C:In the transaction.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, you know, I wish a woman wouldn't be offended if a guy walked up to him and said, how much is it gonna cost me to you tonight?
Speaker C:I get how that's disrespectful, and I get how is it disrespectful, though?
Speaker C:No, no.
Speaker C:Yes, it is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's kind of disrespectful.
Speaker B:Oh, no.
Speaker C:Nowadays, the assumption that you're not one of the 95 other percent of women, you could be the 5%.
Speaker C:And I got to be cognizant of the fact that you.
Speaker C:You could be.
Speaker B:Man, you're giving a lot of quarter.
Speaker A:Now, that's rude.
Speaker C:I don't think it would be that offensive, because personally, you could just tell me, hey, I'm not transactional.
Speaker C:And then I just go, my bad.
Speaker C:You was wearing the uniform, and I could just move on.
Speaker B:See, that part was extra.
Speaker B:That part was my bad.
Speaker B:You was wearing a uniform.
Speaker B:See, now that wasn't nice, sir.
Speaker A:And where's the uniform that.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker C:You know what the fucking uniform is?
Speaker B:Yeah, we all do.
Speaker B:We all do.
Speaker C:Come on, man.
Speaker C:But here's the thing.
Speaker C:It's like, I heard somebody tell me it might have been my uncle.
Speaker C:If a woman asks you for something within the first two months, she don't like you.
Speaker B:I agree.
Speaker C:And I was just like, damn, that's so pro.
Speaker C:Now, as a young man, I wasn't ready to receive that because we're so programmed to feel like we have to earn.
Speaker C:Earn that reciprocal affection.
Speaker C:You know, you go to the bar and they're just like, hey, did you buy her a drink?
Speaker C:Go buy her a drink so you could talk to her.
Speaker C:Like, we got.
Speaker C:We were programmed to feel like we have to earn that attention back.
Speaker C:So I couldn't receive that information well early on in life, but it's absolutely right.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker C:And I ain't saying, like, if I'm taking you out to.
Speaker C:To eat, if I ask you out, out on a date, and you ask me to pay for your food.
Speaker C:Look, I, I asked you out on a date.
Speaker C:I, I'm okay with that being standard operating procedure, but if in the course of this date, you start talking to me about, I don't know how you behind on the power bill throughout the this date, dropping the hints like you want me to give you some extra cash, like you don't like me.
Speaker C:You just like what you think I could represent for you.
Speaker C:And I'm good on that.
Speaker A:I mean, that's fair.
Speaker C:I mean, look, if, if women can have like the 60 day rule about not giving up, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Being like, hey, you know, if you really want to know if a guy's really into you, you should make him wait.
Speaker C:And I mean, there's still some women out here operating like that.
Speaker C:Like, none of them saw the Eddie Murphy standup comedy that happened in the 80s, because he was absolutely right.
Speaker C:It's like, if you make him wait, he's not gonna be mad about it.
Speaker C:No, no, no, Reuben, that's not it.
Speaker C:But now they don't like you, but they just want to accomplish the task at hand.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:So now, so now that whole I'm scared of a dude just hitting it and quitting it.
Speaker C:Well, he's.
Speaker C:He'll wait.
Speaker C:He'll wait.
Speaker C:But when he hits it, man, he, he put his two week notice in.
Speaker C:Two weeks before he hit it.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:When he out, he's like, hey, y' all gonna notice I ain't been back here ever again.
Speaker C:But I, this is what the I was waiting for.
Speaker C:Because now he's either let down, because let's be honest, it's.
Speaker C:If somebody makes you wait for something spectacular like this, at the end of the day, you realize it's still vagina.
Speaker C:And you just like, man, I waited two months for this vagina when I could have got this vagina down the street, you know, for just being nice to her, like, and I, I was jumping through mental gymnastics for your ass.
Speaker A:Like, but everybody's v. Every girl's vagina is the greatest ever.
Speaker C:Look, I talked about this before.
Speaker C:I ain't never met a chick that thought she had.
Speaker C:Mediocre is always the greatest ever.
Speaker C:Can you imagine how shunned we as guys would be if we truly approach life?
Speaker C:Like, we had the greatest penis on earth?
Speaker C:Like, don't get me wrong, the male ego tries to tell you that, but we've had enough.
Speaker C:Most of the time in life you get enough experience as a guy to realize that's just your ego talking.
Speaker C:That is just your ego.
Speaker C:Go talk it.
Speaker A:Well, I'mma take my mediocre penis and take five minutes of the greatest time ever.
Speaker C:I mean, look, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Here, here's, here's where I stand.
Speaker A:That's what some people say.
Speaker C:I mean, I'm just saying, here's where.
Speaker B:I stand on that.
Speaker C:You can tell me it ain't the greatest ever, but what I'll tell you is it worked for two minutes and that's all I required.
Speaker C:I'm just, I'm, I'm just saying I was able to accomplish my mission.
Speaker B:Well, I listen to some old shows and I'm glad to see that you're back up to two minutes.
Speaker B:Cuz you would whittle it down to 30 seconds, bro.
Speaker C:I mean, I might have been that interested in that 32nd one.
Speaker C:Like, you know, you, you can really judge how much I cared back in the day based on how much effort I truly put into this excursion.
Speaker B:Excursion?
Speaker B:Hilarious.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:And don't get me wrong, sometimes that's just the best I got ag.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:I'm, I'm okay with that, man.
Speaker B:Like, I agree with none of this, sir.
Speaker C:I'm just, I'm just okay with it, man.
Speaker A:I don't have an opinion about somebody else.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Anything you say, sir.
Speaker C:You know, so like, honestly, man, like truly, it's like if a woman asks you for anything extra within the first two months, I'm saying about what my uncle said, they don't really like you.
Speaker C:Because I, I, I know personally women who, if they like the guy, they would intentionally not try to ask for anything within that time frame just so they wouldn't look like that.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean,.
Speaker C:Because I would respect that.
Speaker C:And then if I really like the person and they, you know, it was something they really needed, I'd be like, hey, you know, that's stupid.
Speaker C:You know, could have just.
Speaker C:But I'd also respect it.
Speaker C:Like, I get it.
Speaker C:Like you, you didn't want to seem like you were being transactional, like you were using me.
Speaker A:Well, let me, let me ask a question because I'm very curious because I can honestly say that this has never happened to me.
Speaker A:However, you know, I don't even know if it happened to my friends because that's not something I've had conversation with.
Speaker A:Has a woman that you are dating ever asked you to pay a bill for them?
Speaker A:Oh, yes, yes.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:Shut the front door.
Speaker B:Oh, you don't get out much, do you?
Speaker B:And I'm glad you don't in this.
Speaker B:In this case, I'm glad you don't.
Speaker A:I mean, it's been a minute since I've been on a dating team, but, yeah, I've all.
Speaker A:I guess the other thing is I've never really.
Speaker A:Yeah, I've just never had that experience.
Speaker A:Parents where.
Speaker A:Hey, can you pay this bill for me?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker C:And in the famous words of Juicy J, if you want to know who's with you, start telling.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:Yeah, right.
Speaker A:Yeah, we quoting Juicy J on the show.
Speaker A:That's how you know it's gotten real.
Speaker A:Yeah, man.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:I wouldn't even know how to react to that.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker A:Yeah, I wouldn't know how to react to that.
Speaker B:Unless you figure it out, because you might have.
Speaker A:Unless we were, like, engaged or something.
Speaker A:That'd be different if I was engaged.
Speaker A:We'll see.
Speaker C:Here's where I'm.
Speaker C:Here's where I'm gonna say it can be different if you're actually in a relationship with a person, and you have been for a while.
Speaker C:I give it grace.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:If we've just gone out a couple times.
Speaker B:What the.
Speaker C:You asking me, Coach?
Speaker C:Like, if you ain't know me, how that bill gonna get paid?
Speaker A:Moco Cab.
Speaker A:Ask what bill?
Speaker A:I mean, I don't give it.
Speaker A:It doesn't matter.
Speaker B:If a woman asked me to get her nails done, I'd be like, you already let me know who you are.
Speaker A:First of all, that's.
Speaker A:I mean, you were doing that before you were with me, so I don't understand what the.
Speaker C:Hey, Reuben, you were there, so ag.
Speaker C:The funniest thing.
Speaker C:Remember, it was.
Speaker C:It was years ago.
Speaker C:Like, we.
Speaker C:We were at.
Speaker C:I want to say it was velvet.
Speaker C:That's how old.
Speaker C:It was a long time ago, but we was out with a whole bunch of dudes.
Speaker C:I think Ron was beside me, and dude was there, and some girl came up to me and was like, don't you want to buy me a drink?
Speaker C:And dude and Ron bust out laughing because Ron was like, you asked the one dude here who is not gonna say yes.
Speaker B:You had told us that story.
Speaker B:I rem.
Speaker A:Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker B:And I laughed, too, because I was like, man, you barking up the wrong tree.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, ma', am.
Speaker A:That is not a special.
Speaker C:It's like five of us standing here, and you came up to the one dude that was gonna be like, I'm good.
Speaker A:You came up to the big.
Speaker A:The big oversized Redhead kingpin.
Speaker A:And he was like, please, that's not how this works.
Speaker A:Ah, I remember that.
Speaker A:That was crazy.
Speaker A:She walked away kind of sad.
Speaker C:I mean, look, here's the thing, man.
Speaker C:And it's.
Speaker C:No, it's not no shade.
Speaker C:It's just like that.
Speaker C:That's kind of a standard operating procedure of mine.
Speaker C:Like, don't.
Speaker C:I don't know you.
Speaker C:Don't ask me for stuff.
Speaker C:Don't ask me for stuff.
Speaker C:I don't know you.
Speaker C:I've got.
Speaker C:I've been out several times with.
Speaker C:With women that I know that I'm friends with, and I might buy them a drink.
Speaker C:But, like, if I don't know you, I don't even know your name yet.
Speaker C:You want me to buy you a drink?
Speaker A:So what am I doing?
Speaker C:Paying for the right to talk to you?
Speaker A:I think that's weird, too.
Speaker A:I. I think that's completely weird.
Speaker A:Hey, I mean, I'm not sitting here giving you any mind of attention.
Speaker A:And you don't come to me and basically say, hey, can you buy me a drink?
Speaker A:I mean, but it's just.
Speaker B:Ruben, think about it.
Speaker B:It's an extension of the.
Speaker B:Of the, you know, the institution that's already there.
Speaker B:You have to buy me a drink to talk to me.
Speaker A:No, no, I'm not saying.
Speaker A:See, what I'm saying is, like, I understand why, but, like, I guess what I'm saying is it'd be one thing if I was eyeballing you from the room, and I have chose not to do that.
Speaker A:But then that's still weird.
Speaker A:But at least, you know, I at least have seen you, and maybe I've shared some, you know, some eye contact to the point where, hey, you know, this is.
Speaker A:This is relevant, but for some chick I ain't seen before, and they just walk up to me and be like, hey, can you buy me a drink?
Speaker A:I. I don't understand, like, what.
Speaker C:Your first approach can't be me asking you.
Speaker C:Asking me for something that.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:That approach just doesn't work for me.
Speaker B:But it's still.
Speaker B:It's still the same.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker C:I know it works ag.
Speaker C:And when.
Speaker C:If a woman does it, I don't look at it like, you disrespectful heifer.
Speaker C:How dare you?
Speaker A:I'm just like.
Speaker C:I just go, unfortun, you have come to the wrong supplier of, like, penis.
Speaker C:You are gonna have to move to somebody else who's more willing to pay for the idea that maybe I can talk to you later on.
Speaker A:Yeah, at least.
Speaker A:Hey, at least in Harlem nights, sunshine, Bought the dude a drink and then went over and talked to him.
Speaker C:That's the difference, like.
Speaker C:Cause rubles, like, if I was eyeballing you and everything.
Speaker C:No, don't even do that.
Speaker C:If I'm eyeballing you now, if I walk up to you and I go, hey, what?
Speaker C:You drink it.
Speaker C:All right, I am.
Speaker C:I am taking the initiative.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker C:To do this.
Speaker A:But if.
Speaker C:If you just like, hey, what you doing?
Speaker C:Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker C:Can you buy me a drink?
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:Easy, easy.
Speaker C:Ask me another question.
Speaker C:Give me a more challenging one.
Speaker A:He's not wrong yet.
Speaker C:Give me a more challenging one.
Speaker A:I see.
Speaker B:Man, I feel like when a woman asks you, do you want to buy me a drink?
Speaker B:It's like when on the.
Speaker B:On the playground, when you're in first grade, woman comes up to you and socks you in the shoulder.
Speaker B:Then, like me, I go home to my dad, tell him the situation.
Speaker B:He says, no, she likes you.
Speaker B:It's the same thing, man.
Speaker B:When you're.
Speaker B:When you.
Speaker B:When you.
Speaker B:When the world works around you, when you.
Speaker B:When the world orbits you, you think that you can do anything and get something out of it.
Speaker C:I totally get it.
Speaker B:So that's all.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's why I was saying to rub is.
Speaker B:It's like.
Speaker B:It's merely an extension of the.
Speaker B:Of the system that's already there.
Speaker B:It's just done in reverse a little bit.
Speaker B:Because if you buy her a drink, she's still gonna think you owe her a drink, because she can.
Speaker B:She could take.
Speaker B:You could buy her a $12 drink, and she just.
Speaker B:Okay, bye.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker B:And she thinks she's done nothing wrong.
Speaker C:This is gonna sound crazy, but give.
Speaker C:Give me the honor of lying to myself.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, if I'm choosing to buy you a drink and I don't know you from Sam, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:I'm giving myself the illusion that I got a chance and that this could get me in there.
Speaker C:I'm lying to myself.
Speaker C:Don't you come over here and try to make me believe the lie that you're creating for me.
Speaker B:But it works so well.
Speaker B:It works.
Speaker B:It works so well.
Speaker A:And here's the thing.
Speaker A:And I'll say it.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And I'll say my little piece about it.
Speaker A:Hey, man, not that.
Speaker A:Not that it happens on occasion, probably a strong 3%, but it's really okay for a woman to.
Speaker A:To buy you to drink.
Speaker A:It's really okay.
Speaker A:And I say that.
Speaker A:To say this.
Speaker A:I'll never forget the one Time I was probably completely silent.
Speaker A:Like, one day I was.
Speaker A:I was working.
Speaker B:Work.
Speaker A:I was at work long, long time ago, and I was kind of talking to a young lady.
Speaker A:Blah, blah, blah, blah, Whatever, whatever.
Speaker A:Hey, you know, hey, Ruben, come to the office.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker A:On a walkie.
Speaker A:Come to the office.
Speaker A:Go to office.
Speaker A:Hey, what's up?
Speaker A:These are for you.
Speaker A:What's for me?
Speaker A:A bouquet of flowers.
Speaker A:Like, what the.
Speaker A:Like, as.
Speaker A:As a.
Speaker A:As a man who's never been given.
Speaker A:Been anything, like, out the blue like that.
Speaker A:I mean, brownie points were created that were made that day, but it was just like, yo.
Speaker A:I mean, all I'm saying is, hey, like.
Speaker A:Like Moby said, like, at least make an effort, you know?
Speaker A:And I'm not.
Speaker A:Hey, man, if you're gonna use me, that's cool, but at least give me a reach around now.
Speaker A:I'm saying.
Speaker A:Nah, Ruben is.
Speaker A:Put a ring on that.
Speaker C:I was gonna say with.
Speaker C:With that.
Speaker C:That story does remind me all the time just how truly easy we are as.
Speaker C:Oh, God, that's so easy.
Speaker B:Like, just.
Speaker C:And it's so crazy that some.
Speaker C:Some women, like, just miss the mark on that.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, they have all these magazines about all the stuff that you're supposed to do to get a man, and.
Speaker C:And it's just like, hey, you ever just tried being nice to a nigga?
Speaker B:Like, you're not allowed to do it.
Speaker B:You're not allowed to do it.
Speaker C:Here's some weird shit.
Speaker C:Hey, maybe figure out something he's interested in and.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And give him that.
Speaker B:Now you talking about some work.
Speaker B:That's some work.
Speaker B:Women don't do no work, huh?
Speaker B:Come on, man.
Speaker A:I mean, like, real talk, like, that's.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:That's how most men are simping, like, because you get a woman who finds out something about you, and.
Speaker A:And that's where they.
Speaker A:They spend a little bit, but they get so much more.
Speaker C:I'm just saying that's how I.
Speaker C:That's how I got in my situation, man.
Speaker C:But I can.
Speaker C:I can tell you.
Speaker C:I can tell you literally, the gift that was just like, God damn it.
Speaker C:Now I.
Speaker C:Now she's here forever.
Speaker B:Now she's here forever.
Speaker C:Yeah, she's here forever because, like, she's not allowed to go.
Speaker C:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like, this is that.
Speaker C:We're here now.
Speaker B:We here now.
Speaker A:Yeah, she.
Speaker C:She bought.
Speaker C:She bought me a bowling bag, and she bought my PBA membership, the professional bowling.
Speaker C:So she bought my PBA membership card.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You're stuck as a As a gift.
Speaker C:And I was just like, God damn it, she gets me.
Speaker A:Hey, and you know what?
Speaker A:I'm gonna tell.
Speaker A:I'm gonna tell another secret from that.
Speaker A:You wanna, you want to.
Speaker C:And she had to do work to do it too, cuz she had to go through other people to figure out how to get the stuff.
Speaker A:And on top of that, hey, ladies, look, you really want to get a dude, this is what you do.
Speaker A:You do some crazy, like, I don't know, sit there on your phone and do nothing while him and his boys are playing video games and say nothing but give him support.
Speaker A:Like, hey, man, that's when I knew that's just that she's staying for, for Moby because we plan, we playing games.
Speaker A:She's sitting there, she's quiet every time Moby does something.
Speaker A:Well, good job, baby.
Speaker A:Other than that, she might talk a.
Speaker C:Little like, so easy, man.
Speaker C:It's so easy.
Speaker A:That's what I was like, man.
Speaker C:I have no shame in saying how easy I was.
Speaker C:Like, none.
Speaker C:None whatsoever.
Speaker C:I wear it as a badge of honor.
Speaker C:I was so simple, so easy.
Speaker C:I was not.
Speaker C:It was so easy to, to achieve this quest that it almost feels like a side quest.
Speaker C:Like, I almost feel like a side quest.
Speaker C:Like I'm not even part of the actual game.
Speaker C:It was that easy, man.
Speaker A:And I'm.
Speaker C:All I'm saying is, first level of Mario.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, that's how easy I was.
Speaker C:It was just like, hey, hit a couple bricks, jump on the pole.
Speaker C:You're done.
Speaker A:Jump on the pole.
Speaker C:But I mean, yeah, jump on the pole thing.
Speaker A:That, that, yeah, that was funny.
Speaker A:That was funny.
Speaker A:But it's just like.
Speaker A:And, and like, you know, dudes are so easy, but women make it hard.
Speaker B:Thank you for saying that.
Speaker B:Because we're easy to us because we know who we are.
Speaker C:I was just, just about to say that.
Speaker B:The same information in that, that maze, bruh.
Speaker B:No, it's not easy for them.
Speaker B:There's too much going on.
Speaker B:There's too much going on.
Speaker A:So, but, but I would sit there and say like, you know, that's how you.
Speaker A:In my opinion, you know, that example is how, you know, she is into the person she's with because she does the little things and it's not a big sacrifice except to maybe her her.
Speaker A:But when you play the long game, you get the rewards from it.
Speaker A:And now they gonna be together forever and they got two kids and life is beautiful for them, you know, Whatever, whatever.
Speaker A:But I mean, it's just like, yo, it's okay to.
Speaker A:I'm Giving women permission.
Speaker A:It's okay to put in a tiny amount of work to get what you want.
Speaker A:The problem is you don't put in zero work, and you expect that to just happen.
Speaker B:Because it does.
Speaker B:It does.
Speaker C:Messages right now.
Speaker C:Grouping.
Speaker C:Because, like, on one end, if you listen to, like, a lot of women on these podcasts talk, they basically are telling you that women ain't.
Speaker C:I mean, the men ain't.
Speaker C:And they're stupid and don't listen to them.
Speaker C:And what we're saying is, you know how easy things would be if you could just, like, listen to him occasionally.
Speaker C:Like, they're giving you some good advice here.
Speaker C:Yeah, but.
Speaker C:But they can't.
Speaker C:They can't follow step two if they follow step one rule.
Speaker C:Because step one says were idiots.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:So why would you listen to an idiot?
Speaker A:Oh, and that's why you have a whole bunch of unhappy women out there.
Speaker A:You know, to a.
Speaker A:To a point, as far as getting.
Speaker A:What some of them really want is security, a kid or two and a life.
Speaker A:But then you have some people.
Speaker A:I mean, look, don't get it twisted.
Speaker A:I would like to be married with a kid or two and a wife.
Speaker A:But you know what I'm not gonna do?
Speaker A:Especially at this point in my life, I ain't gonna do that work that I used to do 20 years ago.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker C:Yeah, and see, I worked hard, though, because.
Speaker C:No, no.
Speaker C:I'm go all the way back to the beginning of AG's point where he was talking about when you were trying to do the equal comparison thing, and he was like, it takes a special person to be a pimp.
Speaker C:Because.
Speaker C:Because right now you have all of the necessary ingredients to do that, but you don't have the willpower or the cutthroatness to do it.
Speaker C:Because everything you said sounded great.
Speaker C:It's like, hey, I ain't about to bend over back for these hoes.
Speaker C:I ain't about to do no extra.
Speaker C:If.
Speaker C:If you ain't down with it.
Speaker C:You, like, those are all things that make you actually extra appealing to members of the opposite sex because they don't weird.
Speaker C:It gives you a power that.
Speaker C:That's why.
Speaker C:Even though we see it all the time, the extra.
Speaker C:Or with these good women, you're just like, that dude's a dick.
Speaker C:How's he pulling it off?
Speaker C:That's why.
Speaker C:That's why.
Speaker C:Because he has so much in him that she is like, I have to figure out how to conquer this.
Speaker A:Like, are you saying I got some with me now?
Speaker C:You do, but you don't have the follow through.
Speaker C:Because at the end of the day, you're still a nice guy.
Speaker C:You still won't do the stuff that's required.
Speaker C:Like, my doctor said something to me.
Speaker C:Me the other day, and he said the greatest hazard for a patient is being nice.
Speaker C:And I was like, you know what?
Speaker C:That's the greatest hazard for a man in dating too.
Speaker B:Being nice.
Speaker C:Because he was like.
Speaker C:Because all the bad.
Speaker C:She's like, all the bad always happens to my nicest patients.
Speaker C:He's like, the.
Speaker C:That I would be cool if they were bleeding out.
Speaker C:Never bad.
Speaker C:Nothing bad ever happens then.
Speaker C:But the nice people, always the people that go through the most.
Speaker C:And I'm just like, damn.
Speaker A:That's kind of.
Speaker C:Kind of describes relationship ships too.
Speaker C:Like, nice dude always getting on.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker C:Gotta have just the right amount of, like, look, you gotta have enough to still be an.
Speaker C:But you can't be over the top where you become a dick.
Speaker A:That's very true.
Speaker B:That's a lot.
Speaker B:But I hear you.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:You gotta ride the line of the tank, Reuben.
Speaker C:You gotta be a. I can't.
Speaker B:But the thing is, Reuben said a whole bunch of stuff.
Speaker B:I don't think he means either.
Speaker B:When you start talking about what you not going to do, I'm like, okay, see, A.J.
Speaker C:I think he believes in his heart.
Speaker C:But remember what I was saying?
Speaker C:He ain't got that follow through.
Speaker C:What.
Speaker C:What did that clip.
Speaker C:What did that clip say?
Speaker C:You ain't got that dog in you?
Speaker C:Like, I don't think you got that dog in you.
Speaker C:I think we put a stethoscope up to your chest.
Speaker C:You might have a little hoe in you.
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker A:Thanks.
Speaker A:Don't.
Speaker B:Don't be.
Speaker B:Don't be sad.
Speaker B:Every.
Speaker B:Every dude does.
Speaker C:Once again, I.
Speaker C:Last week.
Speaker C:I think it was last week or the other week, I was like, hey, every dude has been the simp for.
Speaker A:Somebody said that It's.
Speaker C:There's no.
Speaker C:There's no immunity to it.
Speaker C:Like, the coldest you've ever met probably sent for somebody.
Speaker C:That's probably why he turned into what he is now.
Speaker A:Yeah, most definitely.
Speaker A:I mean, it's just.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker A:I. I do.
Speaker A:I think I'm different than I was 20 years ago, but you're probably right.
Speaker A:I probably.
Speaker A:I probably couldn't follow through 100.
Speaker A:I'll give myself at least 60.
Speaker C:I see you.
Speaker C:You can't follow through on it because, like, at the end of the day, we still easy creatures.
Speaker C:So it just takes the right woman to basically lower your Defenses by, like, saying some nice to you or, like, doing something nice to you now.
Speaker C:Now all of a sudden, you just like.
Speaker C:Like, oh, man, I had this guard up where I was.
Speaker C:I ain't gonna take this from nobody.
Speaker C:And then you went and said something that made me feel good about myself.
Speaker A:I like the way your shirt looks like.
Speaker C:So now I'm chasing this feeling forever now, because I gotta get you to do that again.
Speaker C:Like, what do I have to buy or pay for to get you to do that for me again?
Speaker C:And that's how it becomes transactional.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:That's how Simp is born.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:That's all day.
Speaker A:Because Lord knows the only thing I. I mean, what.
Speaker A:Oh, what is the statement?
Speaker A:All she wanted is something that compliments.
Speaker A:I can't remember the first one, whatever.
Speaker A:But, man.
Speaker A:Yeah, you give me a good compliment on a great day, man, I'm done.
Speaker C:I mean, all she wants is everything all at the same time.
Speaker C:Ah.
Speaker A:And one day that will happen to some people, but today ain't that day, so appreciate it.
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Speaker A:Ag.
Speaker A:What's on your mind?
Speaker B:Well, just an extension of this.
Speaker B:I laughed at myself and I cried at myself.
Speaker B:And I'm gonna.
Speaker B:I'm gonna tell you what happened.
Speaker B:Everything that we talk about here, especially tonight, you would think that I would learn, but God put something in you that makes you do things automatically.
Speaker B:No matter what situation is, your mind is going that way.
Speaker B:So I'm.
Speaker B:I'm leaving.
Speaker B:I'm leaving my place, going to work, you know, minding my business, whatever.
Speaker B:And there's a woman that lives in the building like Four or five buildings down.
Speaker B:And it was older woman, I think she's in her 70s or whatever.
Speaker B:And she wants to throw away this end table, like nightstand.
Speaker B:And I'm like.
Speaker B:And I'm looking at her going, what are you doing?
Speaker B:And I'm like, okay, just mind your business.
Speaker B:Just keep it moving.
Speaker B:I took three steps and I was like, you can't do that.
Speaker B:Just, just, you know, stay 20ft away.
Speaker B:Ask her if she needs some help, but you can't let this woman do this.
Speaker B:And so I was like, ma', am, can I help you?
Speaker A:And she's like, yeah, it was a.
Speaker B:Little bit more heavy than I thought, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah, let me, I'll take it.
Speaker B:It's fine.
Speaker B:He said, are you sure?
Speaker B:I'm good, just don't do this.
Speaker B:I and it's like, I, I, I did it.
Speaker B:I went to the dumpster, threw it away.
Speaker B:And I was sitting there going, good gravy, you're a sin.
Speaker B:As much as I say on this show, man, I'm telling you, discipline matters.
Speaker B:Now, my wife didn't feel that way about it.
Speaker B:She was like, well, I'm glad you did it, Whatever, whatever.
Speaker B:Because you, you don't need to be like that.
Speaker B:And I hear what she's saying, but there was a part of me that died because I was, I failed.
Speaker B:I completely feel I should have let her struggle to that because what if I wasn't there?
Speaker B:What if I wasn't there?
Speaker B:She would have had, she would have had to make her make the best of it.
Speaker C:How that bill gonna get paid if I ain't here?
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:She would have had to make her way to the dumpster.
Speaker B:And it was, it was, it was a nice walked to the dumpster.
Speaker B:Now you were 70 year old woman trying to.
Speaker B:Man, that thing was heavy too.
Speaker B:Cuz I lifted it, I'm not really expecting much.
Speaker B:And I was like, oh, okay, this is substantial.
Speaker B:But there was a part of me that died.
Speaker B:I promise you it is.
Speaker B:This is like just some other dude doing something for a woman.
Speaker A:I'm like, man, she got your ass.
Speaker B:And she didn't, she didn't even see me.
Speaker B:I said, ma', am, like five times.
Speaker B:She wasn't even listening.
Speaker A:Sure she didn't see you ag.
Speaker B:No, because she was on her way.
Speaker B:By the time I left the door, door, got out the door, she was well on her way.
Speaker B:She was in the middle of the street with this, on her way to.
Speaker A:The dumpster, struck, she prayed for a man to come and help her out.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, it Is Easter all.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker B:It wasn't Easter that day, sir.
Speaker B:Wasn't even close.
Speaker B:I don't even know if it was April yet.
Speaker B:I was like, man.
Speaker B:But anyway, I gotta.
Speaker C:I gotta.
Speaker C:I gotta.
Speaker B:I gotta come with the same energy, bro.
Speaker B:I fail.
Speaker B:I should have let her struggle, because what if I wasn't there, so.
Speaker A:That's so cold.
Speaker C:That's so cold.
Speaker C:F. That old lady.
Speaker B:No, I'm just saying, because like I.
Speaker C:Said before, like, I got.
Speaker B:I got my AAA card in the mail, and it was just like, the next time I see some woman out there struggling with a flat tie, I'd be like, you should have paid your 190 for AAA, since you don't need nobody.
Speaker B:But, see, I could.
Speaker B:I couldn't do it.
Speaker B:I couldn't do it.
Speaker B:I should have let her struggle, man.
Speaker B:She probably was stroked out.
Speaker B:But, I mean, is it really my fault if she strokes out?
Speaker B:No, I failed, bro.
Speaker B:I failed this show.
Speaker B:I failed myself.
Speaker B:You didn't fail the show.
Speaker B:It's ridiculous.
Speaker C:We helping old ladies, man.
Speaker C:We failing the show.
Speaker A:Now, you're a nice guy, man.
Speaker C:The Brotherhood is so disappointed in you for being a decent human being.
Speaker A:No, because I feel like I can't say the stuff that I say on.
Speaker B:This show and then help some woman do something she could clearly.
Speaker B:Well, she thought she could do on her own.
Speaker A:But see, here's the difference, man, and this is my opinion.
Speaker A:The difference is, like, as long as you do for your wife, like you're supposed to do, then you're fine.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:I'm all married to her now.
Speaker A:If I done that, I was.
Speaker A:Would be travesty.
Speaker C:Why?
Speaker A:I'm just saying, man.
Speaker C:Why can't.
Speaker C:Why.
Speaker C:Why can't we be two things at.
Speaker B:The same time, man?
Speaker B:A part of me died.
Speaker B:A part of me died.
Speaker C:If Tupac could be Thug Life and then say Dear Mama, like.
Speaker C:Like in the same Brenda's got a baby.
Speaker C:Like, come on, man.
Speaker C:It's okay.
Speaker C:It's okay to be multifaceted, man.
Speaker C:It's okay to have dimensions, man, but you're not a 2D character.
Speaker A:Hold on, man.
Speaker A:But to be fair, I mean, I gave Tupac for.
Speaker A:For, you know, humping around.
Speaker A:Not humping around, getting around, and then talking about Brenda having a goddamn baby like, you got around.
Speaker A:You gave Brenda a baby?
Speaker C:What?
Speaker A:We did.
Speaker C:They did that the other way around.
Speaker C:The Brendan's Got a baby came out before.
Speaker A:Yeah, but then she got that baby because she was.
Speaker B:Because he was getting around.
Speaker C:I don't think he was talking about him.
Speaker C:I think he was just, you know.
Speaker A:I guess we'll never know story in.
Speaker C:The hood, but we'll never know.
Speaker A:But yeah, man, you good.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:You good.
Speaker B:Well, like I said, you're not.
Speaker A:You're at least not failing the show.
Speaker A:Well, I'm not gonna say that.
Speaker B:And anyway, the.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The lady didn't stroke out.
Speaker B:I took the.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:Took the nightstand to the.
Speaker B:I mean, it was hot.
Speaker B:It was a little.
Speaker B:Just getting warm, like early in the week it was getting warm and she was.
Speaker B:I was like.
Speaker B:I mean, part of me feels like, don't do that, man.
Speaker B:Do better.
Speaker B:But then there's another part of me that died, man.
Speaker B:Just died.
Speaker B:Just died.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:You a punk.
Speaker A:For real.
Speaker A:Come on, man.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:Arranged by.
Speaker A:By par.
Speaker A:Good parents.
Speaker B:I hear what you're saying, man.
Speaker B:And my mom would have been disappointed in me if I let that lady struggle.
Speaker B:But there's a part of me that's like that.
Speaker B:Dude, you just.
Speaker B:Man, why you got to be a punk, man?
Speaker B:For real.
Speaker A:What.
Speaker B:What you doing?
Speaker A:Because, man, she was going to make.
Speaker B:She was going to make it.
Speaker A:You got to be a punk sometimes.
Speaker B:She was gonna make it.
Speaker B:I mean, she.
Speaker B:She didn't even have her cane anymore.
Speaker B:I think her hip was healing her cane.
Speaker B:She was.
Speaker B:She's gonna be okay, man.
Speaker B:She's gonna be okay.
Speaker B:If I.
Speaker B:If I'd have been.
Speaker B:If I'd have been a little bit early or a little bit late leaving for work, then I would have never seen any of this.
Speaker B:So I'm just saying.
Speaker A:Oh my gosh.
Speaker B:She was gonna make.
Speaker A:Now we're not helping old ladies across the street, man.
Speaker A:Cuz we.
Speaker B:They grown, man.
Speaker B:They grown people.
Speaker B:Stop it.
Speaker B:They grown.
Speaker B:They out.
Speaker B:They out there in street to cross the street.
Speaker B:So apparently they're okay.
Speaker A:You got it, Ag.
Speaker A:You right, Ag.
Speaker B:My bad, man.
Speaker A:I'm so sorry.
Speaker A:You a son.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:That's what happened.
Speaker C:I'm just picturing you, like having the imaginary brotherhood watching you from the sideline, shaking their head, and then this Dane.
Speaker B:Was just giving you the thumbs down.
Speaker B:You don't understand how the script that is, sir.
Speaker B:Because I felt like.
Speaker B:I really, honestly, I felt like when I got in the truck and I started out the truck, I was like, you idiot.
Speaker B:What did you just.
Speaker B:What in the world, man?
Speaker A:See, that's.
Speaker A:That's the problem with our world, man.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's come to like this, man.
Speaker A:And it made Ag just feel all different and about being nice.
Speaker C:You have disgrace the honor of the brotherhood.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:This is not the way.
Speaker B:This is not the way.
Speaker A:Take it.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, that's right.
Speaker B:She was a white woman, too.
Speaker B:That made it even worse.
Speaker C:Even if she's 70,.
Speaker A:Was she attractive or she just old white woman.
Speaker B:Yeah, she.
Speaker B:No, she wasn't attractive.
Speaker B:I mean, she just got it for free, man.
Speaker A:She.
Speaker B:There was nothing, nothing about.
Speaker B:There was nothing coming back to me,.
Speaker C:Reuben, that made you sound like a simp right there too, because you was like, was she attractive?
Speaker C:As if.
Speaker C:If Ag would have been like, hey, she would have found a 70 year old ever see, you would have been like, oh, that's all right then.
Speaker A:That's funny.
Speaker B:I was trying to give him another.
Speaker A:Reason why he went and did it, man.
Speaker A:It's like, because if she's attractive, I get you, like, whatever.
Speaker C:I mean, don't be encouraging scent behavior.
Speaker B:Don't.
Speaker C:Don't do that.
Speaker C:She looks good enough.
Speaker C:It's okay.
Speaker C:It's okay.
Speaker B:Terrible.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:Thank you, AG.
Speaker B:Yes, sir.
Speaker A:For letting down the.
Speaker B:I let y' all down.
Speaker B:My bad.
Speaker B:I should have let her carry to the dumpster.
Speaker B:She grown.
Speaker A:No, what you should have.
Speaker A:What you should have did is like.
Speaker A:You should have.
Speaker A:You should have micromanaged her to the dumpster.
Speaker B:That's mean me.
Speaker C:You got it.
Speaker C:You got it.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:One more step.
Speaker B:Work that hip out.
Speaker B:Nah, I couldn't do that.
Speaker B:I couldn't do that.
Speaker B:I would just get in the car and.
Speaker B:Actually, you know what?
Speaker C:I'm.
Speaker B:Actually, there's only one good thing about this.
Speaker B:If I would have gotten the car, she would have been blocking my way forever.
Speaker B:I would have had to go through the grass to get out.
Speaker B:So that did work out.
Speaker A:So you did that.
Speaker A:You did that for you.
Speaker B:No, actually, I thought about that.
Speaker B:Right now, she have been in my way for like 20.
Speaker C:See, we trying to give you a way out.
Speaker C:I know, right?
Speaker B:There's no way out of this.
Speaker B:There's no way out of this.
Speaker B:Lethal injection, sir.
Speaker B:There's no way out of this.
Speaker B:Damn.
Speaker C:We send you the death plate, bruh.
Speaker C:Death.
Speaker B:Same energy, sir.
Speaker B:Same energy.
Speaker B:Oh, this is failed.
Speaker B:This is not the way.
Speaker A:Anyway, I mean, man, AG just turned into Darth Vader for loose guy walking a dog.
Speaker A:Just like that.
Speaker B:But the thing is, I didn't get to the dark.
Speaker B:I didn't get to the dark side, man.
Speaker B:I was.
Speaker B:I searched my feelings and I was conflict.
Speaker B:It was conflict, man.
Speaker B:It was conflict.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker A:Ah.
Speaker A:Moby, man, what's on your mind?
Speaker B:Jesus.
Speaker C:Hey, look, man, I think kids need to listen to the radio.
Speaker A:More.
Speaker C:Hear me out.
Speaker C:Hear me out, because I realize, like, how creative your imagination gets by the radio.
Speaker C:And, you know, everything is so right in front of them.
Speaker C:Everything is, like, Visual.
Speaker C:They got FaceTime when they talk to each other, because, like, God forbid you talk to somebody that you can't visually see in the moment.
Speaker C:And I just.
Speaker C:The reason this hit me is because I was in the radio, and a commercial came on, and I had the most creative, imaginative thought that had nothing to do with the commercial.
Speaker C:And I realized this is the power of radio because, like, I can hear something, but I don't have any visual representation to tell me what this is supposed to be representing, so I get to create it on my own.
Speaker C:So I'll tell you what I heard.
Speaker C:It's the bluebell ice cream theme song.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And it's like a country song.
Speaker C:And the lady says, the good old days are being made right now.
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker C:That's the whole.
Speaker C:That's what they're talking about, the ice cream.
Speaker C:But all I can picture was, like, a whole bunch of, like, ice people with their ice vest on going to brown neighborhoods and getting rid of people saying, the good old days are being made right now.
Speaker C:And then I realized I'm like, this is the pop power of radio.
Speaker C:Like, it's this type of creativity I couldn't have got from seeing an actual white lady sitting on a farm eating some ice cream.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:I created this in my own mental mind.
Speaker A:Jesus Christ.
Speaker C:But every time I hear it now, I won't be able to unsee the visual that I created for myself.
Speaker C:Every time she says, the good old days are being made right now, I'm just like, yeah, that's pretty much.
Speaker C:Pretty much what some old white person saying right now.
Speaker C:Every time these brown people get kicked out, they're like, yep, good old days are being made right now.
Speaker C:So I was just like, man, you know what?
Speaker C:That's the problem with our kids right now.
Speaker C:They ain't got no imagination.
Speaker C:Like, you remember how much we used to play outside as kids where we were just playing in our imagination.
Speaker C:You know how many X Men characters?
Speaker C:I was just in the field with some random people, people fighting.
Speaker A:Just in the random field fight.
Speaker B:I mean, just.
Speaker C:Just at a park and getting mad at that kid that always said he had, like, 15, 000 superpowers.
Speaker C:It's like, bro, you can't.
Speaker C:You can't have all the powers.
Speaker C:It's like, you're supposed to be a mutant, not God.
Speaker C:Like, what are we doing?
Speaker A:Not God.
Speaker C:Oh, God.
Speaker B:Good time, sir.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker C:It's a time Florida creativity, man.
Speaker C:Creativity.
Speaker C:Kids need to listen to radio, man.
Speaker C:They need to get off the YouTubes in the top ticking.
Speaker C:And the insta face.
Speaker C:The insta face and the face Grams, we gotta get all, all this, man.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker C:We just need.
Speaker C:We need some people sitting in front of.
Speaker C:Of a radio listening to somebody tell some ass audiobook story.
Speaker C:And like, kids, this is what we used to have to do back in the day.
Speaker C:Now that's even before audiobook.
Speaker C:This is before my time too.
Speaker C:But you know what?
Speaker C:I can lie.
Speaker C:I can tell these kids this is what I grew up with.
Speaker C:I could lie.
Speaker B:And by the way, you can't call out audiobooks either.
Speaker B:You can't call out audiobooks because you, you pay for that subscription, sir.
Speaker C:You're right.
Speaker C:But they don't have to know that, that I can be like, hey, this.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:This.
Speaker C:They just told stories over, over the, over the radio and we just had to figure out what was going on.
Speaker C:And then, and then, like, you know what?
Speaker C:Baseball sounds way more entertaining on the radio.
Speaker C:I'm blessed because, like, if you're watching baseball and like, you don't really understand sports and everything sounds like a lot of.
Speaker C:It's a lot of standing around, but on the radio the dudes be talking and like, I'm telling you, man, the kids just need to listen to radio, man.
Speaker C:We need.
Speaker C:We need to get imagination back in these kids, man.
Speaker C:And I figured that out just by listening to a bluebell ice cream commercial, creating a.
Speaker C:A fake ice commercial in my head, seeing, seeing some white people in some ice vests doing a rave and some old man in the background going, good old days of being made right now, now.
Speaker B:It sounds so racist now.
Speaker A:All day, except for.
Speaker B:So Bluebill ice cream is make America great again.
Speaker C:That's exactly what.
Speaker C:Look, it's like a country, like a folk country music thing, the way she's singing it too.
Speaker C:So I'm just like, yo, this is America.
Speaker A:America.
Speaker C:There's no A in there.
Speaker C:It's just America right here.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker C:Good old days being made right.
Speaker B:Every time I go to the grocery store, I can't unhear it now I can't unhear it.
Speaker A:Jesus.
Speaker B:Oh, man.
Speaker A:Thank you, Moby, for that.
Speaker B:Thank you, Moby, for that.
Speaker C:You're welcome.
Speaker B:Because he got 15,000 superpowers.
Speaker C:You knew that one kid that was always.
Speaker B:But really in that kid's defense, you were probably playing in his yard.
Speaker C:I mean, maybe, but.
Speaker A:Look home.
Speaker B:Feel the Bad.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:I'm just saying, just because Zach had the bigger yard doesn't mean he.
Speaker C:Doesn't mean he gets to have all the pies.
Speaker B:That's exactly what it means, sir.
Speaker C:Can't fly around, have super speed and be the Hulk.
Speaker C:Like, come on, bro.
Speaker B:Like from planet to planet, man.
Speaker C:Yeah, but you can't be Flash and Hulk.
Speaker C:Come on, man.
Speaker C:You gotta pick one.
Speaker C:They're not even in the same comic book realm.
Speaker B:You were in Zach's yard.
Speaker B:It can absolutely happen.
Speaker A:Oh, God.
Speaker B:Just saying.
Speaker A:A.
Speaker B:Great.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker C:I mean, he might have been my friend in elementary school, but I mean, on retrospect, Zach.
Speaker C:Zach had a lot tendency, you know.
Speaker B:Really is that we're doing.
Speaker B:He had 15,000 superpowers, man.
Speaker B:I think you just hitting on Zach right now.
Speaker C:Yeah, maybe.
Speaker A:But I mean just.
Speaker C:Just your.
Speaker C:Because I'm hating on him doesn't mean he wasn't in fact a though like both can be true ag.
Speaker A:As the Beasty boy said, if I knew it been this kind of party, I'd have stuck my dick in the mashed potatoes.
Speaker C:In all fairness, if for some reason Zack Copeland comes across government name, man, come on.
Speaker C:I just think I don't know the only Zach I've ever known.
Speaker C:You know, saying like if for some reason Zack Copeland comes across this.
Speaker B:Yeah, he was a. Wow.
Speaker C:35 Years ago.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:That's just mean.
Speaker B:Why are you out here being mean, man?
Speaker B:Yo, come on, man.
Speaker A:You just.
Speaker A:That was Moby saying that.
Speaker B:That's cold, man.
Speaker B:That dude's yard was nice.
Speaker B:I bet you, man just.
Speaker B:Hey, that's the price.
Speaker C:And his mom was the first person that gave me a pizza roll.
Speaker C:Cuz that was some white people.
Speaker C:I ain't know what pizza roll girls were.
Speaker A:Oh, that's that Zach.
Speaker B:You mentioned this kid before.
Speaker B:Yeah, right.
Speaker B:Didn't his mom work or something?
Speaker C:That was just different.
Speaker C:That's a different character.
Speaker C:That's gj.
Speaker B:Okay, my bad.
Speaker A:Gj.
Speaker A:Oh, yes.
Speaker C:Zach's a real person.
Speaker C:I didn't just think of the first white name I could think of that's a real person.
Speaker A:Whole government out here.
Speaker C:I'm just saying, man, like context man matters, man.
Speaker C:I just want.
Speaker B:Look, it wouldn't have mattered, sir.
Speaker B:You were just angry my boy.
Speaker C:But I didn't.
Speaker B:Was he really your boy?
Speaker C:I said he was.
Speaker C:I said past tense.
Speaker C:I ain't seen Zach in like 30 plus years.
Speaker C:But you know what I'm saying, like I. I know some peoples that I used to with don't really?
Speaker C:With Zach, they said.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:They said he had a lot of tendencies.
Speaker C:So, I mean, if a man said Zach turned into a. I'm just gonna have to take Chris word.
Speaker C:He was more Georgia, I wasn't.
Speaker A:PoCo Cowboy says Zack D. Sucks.
Speaker B:Now, you mentioning you throwing everybody out.
Speaker C:Of the bus behind this one dude, man.
Speaker A:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker C:In.
Speaker C:In.
Speaker C:In.
Speaker C:In all fairness, I don't think Chris would have a problem calling the either because he's the one that told me.
Speaker A:Wow, this is so funny.
Speaker A:Why don't we start with this?
Speaker B:He need no brown in this dude.
Speaker B:Dude, man.
Speaker B:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:Oh, that's hilarious.
Speaker C:But them pizza rolls were hitting, though, and I was just like, I love those.
Speaker B:I love them.
Speaker C:There's some shit that we can adopt right here.
Speaker B:I was like, I fuck with pizza rolls.
Speaker C:I'm just saying.
Speaker C:I went home to my mom, and I'm just like, hey, what's up with these.
Speaker C:These little balls of pizza goodness in them, man?
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker C:You slapping on your pimping right now.
Speaker C:Like, he throw these things in the microwave, and they came out great.
Speaker A:J. Bianca, how some of the piece of rolls was super hot and some were still frozen.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:But I mean, that's part of it, though, man.
Speaker B:It just happened so fast.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:And you get 100 in a box or something.
Speaker B:Ridiculous, man.
Speaker B:It's so good.
Speaker A:You still.
Speaker A:I still get them shifts now and then.
Speaker B:They're awesome.
Speaker C:And then when you.
Speaker C:When you a rookie too, and you just bite into them too aggressively, your whole mouth get burnt.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I'm saying you got third degree burns in your mouth now.
Speaker B:A layer of the roof of your mouth is going down your throat.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Moco Cowboy, I will answer that question for you.
Speaker A:Yes, you can make them in the air fryer now.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Oh, that's even better.
Speaker C:Oh, that's.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:Stop it.
Speaker A:So none of them are frozen anymore.
Speaker A:It's awesome.
Speaker A:Are you done, Moby?
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:I'm just gonna let you know, Ruben, nothing made you sound more single than the fact that, you know, pizza rolls can go in.
Speaker A:I know, right?
Speaker C:Nothing made you.
Speaker C:You sound more.
Speaker C:I don't think you've ever said anything that made you sound more single on this show.
Speaker B:Actually, it made him sound like a single mom as far as I'm concerned, to be honest.
Speaker B:I'm just saying, bro, that's.
Speaker B:That's some time savers, man.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker B:It makes you.
Speaker B:It makes you taste like you can cook, but you really can't cook, cuz you put it in there.
Speaker A:I don't need to be a single mom.
Speaker A:I'm just saying, bro.
Speaker B:I'm just saying.
Speaker C:Hurt my feelings.
Speaker B:I wasn't trying to hurt the feelings bad, but that, that's, that's.
Speaker B:Single mom got the thing.
Speaker C:I do have a sidebar question.
Speaker C:How long you gotta have them in the air Fryer?
Speaker A:Depends.
Speaker B:Like 10 minutes?
Speaker A:No, it depends.
Speaker B:Depends on what?
Speaker C:Depends what it depends on.
Speaker A:It depends on if you buy the good tortino pizza rolls or you buy the store joint.
Speaker A:I just wanted to see if you.
Speaker C:Were gonna double down on your pizza roll knowledge, in which you did.
Speaker C:You didn't disappoint me.
Speaker C:Thank you, sir.
Speaker A:Oh, hold on, hold on.
Speaker A:First of all of all, I'm not gonna just double down.
Speaker A:I'm gonna triple down.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:It's like 3 minutes and 30 seconds.
Speaker A:If you put like 15 in there.
Speaker B:That's all.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Wow, that's just.
Speaker A:It's a great meal, bro.
Speaker B:It really is.
Speaker A:I'm not a pizza.
Speaker A:But you don't want to get a whole big pizza.
Speaker A:Nah, man, you get that.
Speaker A:It's like six bucks.
Speaker B:Honestly, for six bucks, I feel like I'd rather have tostinos than a real pizza.
Speaker B:It sounds like much more fun.
Speaker B:Now you're gonna get an extra bowl with chips.
Speaker B:Oh, my God, stop it.
Speaker A:Don't slip on the Croat.
Speaker A:Don't sleep on the Kroger brand either.
Speaker A:Pretty solid.
Speaker A:But get the.
Speaker A:Get the combination.
Speaker C:The pepperoni did a quadruple double.
Speaker A:Damn straight, boy.
Speaker A:Hey, man, if I'm, if I'm.
Speaker A:If I'm going do it, I'mma do.
Speaker B:It all the way, right?
Speaker B:Because I know they have like the pepperoni and the sausage too.
Speaker B:Don't they have sausage in there?
Speaker B:One?
Speaker B:Yeah, that's what I thought.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:Yeah, man, I'm down pretty solid.
Speaker B:I'm down.
Speaker A:Yeah, man.
Speaker A:So if the, if the wife's out and you don't want to really cook, man, go to the grocery store, get some of them, bro.
Speaker B:No, I'm going to cook.
Speaker B:In fact, I did my own fried rice today.
Speaker B:It was killer too.
Speaker C:I'm pretty sure I can't do.
Speaker C:Do the pizza rolls anymore.
Speaker C:But I remember there were some good memories when I was a kid.
Speaker B:And pizza rolls, I bet.
Speaker B:Good times.
Speaker A:Can you imagine being like eight, having your first pizza roll.
Speaker C:Like your friends, like, hey, my mom made some, some peach rolls.
Speaker C:And I'm just like, nah, man.
Speaker C:Look at these little pizza.
Speaker C:This little.
Speaker A:That's funny that you say that what's gonna happen is you're gonna get pissed because your friend's gonna give you the hot one.
Speaker A:And when you bite into it, expecting something that's gonna burn your mouth, it.
Speaker C:All tasted like magic to me, Ruby.
Speaker B:It kind of was.
Speaker C:It all tasted like magic to me.
Speaker B:Because a lot of this stuff we didn't really have in our house.
Speaker B:But when I.
Speaker B:When I got grown and got a job and I had all this money,.
Speaker A:I didn't have it in my house either.
Speaker A:That's some grown shit.
Speaker B:But see, you could, like, Hot Pockets were my thing.
Speaker B:Hot Pockets.
Speaker C:I love Hot Pockets.
Speaker B:When I got to the point to where I could, you know, plopped down $40 for, you know, seemed like endless Hot Pockets, bro.
Speaker B:I felt like I made it.
Speaker A:Nope.
Speaker A:Vienna sausage, Potted meat syrup sandwiches.
Speaker B:Wow, that's dang, Rupert, sound like y' all was in the depression, bro.
Speaker C:I'mma let you know, man.
Speaker C:We've talked about it before.
Speaker C:To this day, I have no idea how or why I like Vienna sausage.
Speaker A:The shits are nasty now.
Speaker C:Like, I look at them.
Speaker C:If I look at it now, I go, what the fuck was I ever doing?
Speaker C:But when I was a kid, my mom.
Speaker C:My mom swears I was all about them little hot dogs.
Speaker C:She said that's what I called her.
Speaker B:When I was real little.
Speaker C:And I'm just like, why would you.
Speaker A:Do that to me?
Speaker C:Like, we.
Speaker C:We weren't living that bad.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Well, it did save her some money for sure.
Speaker C:I realized that ag.
Speaker C:But you know what, man?
Speaker C:I' ma say it.
Speaker C:I love my kids more than that, man.
Speaker B:He said, I love my kids.
Speaker B:So your mama didn't love you?
Speaker C:For real?
Speaker C:I don't know what our financial situation was, but first of all, I don't know if my kids.
Speaker C:Kids have ever tasted me in the sausage, because I was like, if I don't give them a taste of that narcotic, you can never get on.
Speaker A:Hey, give him some potted meat.
Speaker A:Five bucks they don't eat it.
Speaker C:Oh, no.
Speaker C:My kid, my kids.
Speaker C:Look, I. I have been blessed to have, like, bougie kids taste bud wise.
Speaker C:They talking about they eat shrimp tacos.
Speaker A:My dog.
Speaker C:I remember that.
Speaker B:You were pissed.
Speaker B:You were pissed.
Speaker C:Like, I'm just like, I ain't eating no fucking shrimp could beat.
Speaker C:I didn't remember eating shrimp when I was your age, but I didn't even know you could put this on a taco.
Speaker A:Oh, I had something the other day, man.
Speaker A:I'm awesome.
Speaker C:I do too but what I'm saying is, like, when I was their age,.
Speaker B:Shrimp, I wouldn't have had the call Cassidy the Caucasity Cat Williams now.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:From the planet Caucasus.
Speaker B:That's so hilarious.
Speaker A:You good?
Speaker A:You good, Moby?
Speaker C:I'm good, man.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker C:Good old days.
Speaker B:Wait, I got.
Speaker B:I got one question for him, though.
Speaker B:Did you ever put any heat on the Vienna sausages or you just eat them straight out the can?
Speaker A:Out of the can, man.
Speaker C:I'm going to let you know, Ag, this is going to be a super honest response.
Speaker C:I truly believe I've blocked it out, so I can't even tell you.
Speaker C:I. I truly believe I blocked the memory.
Speaker C:I don't know if I ate them hot.
Speaker C:I don't know if I ate them cold.
Speaker C:I know I ate them, but she says you blocked out.
Speaker C:I remember the cans.
Speaker C:I remember the smell.
Speaker C:But like, it's like my memory cuts off right there, cuz it's just like, we don't want to go back to that moment, you know?
Speaker C:I'm recovering from my trauma, dog.
Speaker C:Don't.
Speaker B:Ptsd.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker C:I had to ask.
Speaker B:But anyway, okay.
Speaker C:They had two traumas when I was a kid.
Speaker C:Vienna Sausage and Miracle Whip.
Speaker B:Yeah, I remember Miracle Whip.
Speaker B:I. I thought, oh, man, it's wonderful.
Speaker A:I still.
Speaker A:With Miracle Whip.
Speaker C:I don't.
Speaker C:And I'mma tell you, because I didn't eat mayonnaise till I was almost an adult because my dad with Miracle.
Speaker C:And then my mom kept getting Miracle Whip.
Speaker C:So I tasted Miracle Whip when I.
Speaker A:Was little and I just thought that was mayonnaise.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:So I was just like, I just don't like mayonnaise.
Speaker C:And then one day, I inadvertently ate some mayonnaise on something.
Speaker B:I'm like, who the Is this all.
Speaker C:I'm like, what the.
Speaker C:This ain't.
Speaker C:Man, I've tasted nasty ass, man.
Speaker C:I'm just like, you lying.
Speaker C:He didn't know.
Speaker C:Stop calling.
Speaker C:Hold on, hold on.
Speaker C:I wasn't talking about my mom in that moment.
Speaker C:I was talking about the girl who introduced me to mayonnaise.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker C:Not that I should have called her that, but I was going to say,.
Speaker B:Does that make it any better?
Speaker C:Oh, excuse me.
Speaker C:That's how I felt.
Speaker C:That's how I felt in the moment.
Speaker C:Like this fraudulent heifer is trying to fake me out.
Speaker C:This is not.
Speaker C:And then I looked and I was like, all these years I've been thinking I'm eating mayonnaise when this is a.
Speaker A:Miracle Whip, and that ain't with the Miracle Whip.
Speaker A:Oh, Shit.
Speaker A:This shit is gone.
Speaker B:There's a lot of failure tonight, man.
Speaker B:A lot of failures.
Speaker C:I'm sorry, man.
Speaker A:And we're not done.
Speaker B:I know, right?
Speaker C:If you let me talk about my trauma, I'll get.
Speaker C:Go on, man.
Speaker A:Nah.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:Heal it.
Speaker A:So is that.
Speaker A:Is that it, Moby?
Speaker C:Yeah, I'm done.
Speaker A:You sure?
Speaker A:Just make sure, man.
Speaker B:Once you get it out, there's always more, sir.
Speaker B:You just move on.
Speaker A:This is a place of healing.
Speaker A:So I want to go back to earlier in the show.
Speaker A:Two things.
Speaker A:First of all, happy Easter.
Speaker A:Well, I think it's three things.
Speaker A:First thing, happy Easter.
Speaker A:Sorry, I didn't say it.
Speaker A:We're happy.
Speaker A:We got an hour left to Easter.
Speaker A:Second.
Speaker A:So, first of all, Melanie joined us today and back when we were talking about the bill situation about, you know, paying a bill, you know, Moko Cowboy put up.
Speaker A:Which bill are you talking about?
Speaker A:You know, because I guess there's a difference between paying bills that if you start paying one's okay and one's not.
Speaker A:I don't know where the that comes from, but whatever.
Speaker A:Because my thing is, you pay one bill, you about to pay it some more.
Speaker A:And then Melanie Forsyth, I said.
Speaker A:I was like, was that whom as in.
Speaker A:Yeah, I never thought about that before.
Speaker A:Or.
Speaker A:Yeah, I guess it does matter which bill you pay for.
Speaker A:It could be the rent.
Speaker A:It could be.
Speaker A:Could be the.
Speaker A:Yeah, whatever.
Speaker A:And now it's just kind of like, I. I don't know if Melanie's still out there, but I'm kind of curious what the was for, because I'm like,.
Speaker C:Riley on Boondock say, you paying.
Speaker C:You paying for it.
Speaker B:Can't tell you how much I missed that show.
Speaker A:Anyway, I think it's a fair statement to say the Boondocks might have been some of the realest on tv, because Riley says a whole, whole bunch of that.
Speaker A:We be thinking.
Speaker C:I'm just saying, I'll stand on it.
Speaker C:There's never been a greater animated comedy than Bonus.
Speaker C:Never.
Speaker A:And R. And then Riley was voiced by Regina King, just in case you didn't know.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, I. I was just curious.
Speaker A:Maybe she's not here anymore, or maybe she doesn't remember what she was talking about.
Speaker A:But I was just like.
Speaker A:I mean, we thinking about what bill you should ask for.
Speaker A:Like, okay, I was a little taken aback by that.
Speaker A:But the biggest thing I want to talk about very quickly is.
Speaker A:Look, man, I guess music is mad at us as people.
Speaker A:And, you know, I.
Speaker A:Because, you know, back in the day when they had music openings for, like, Monday night, Football, you know, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker A:And it used to be, you know, recently.
Speaker A:Was Carrie Underwood on?
Speaker A:You know, I think it's.
Speaker A:She's on NBC, right?
Speaker A:So Monday Night Football is Snoop.
Speaker A:Word.
Speaker A:No problem.
Speaker A:All good.
Speaker A:And I would say that Carrie Underwood is at least.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker A:I mean, I may not care about the music, but at least.
Speaker A:At the very least, it's excitable.
Speaker A:It gets you kind of moving.
Speaker A:You know, she could tell she's singing with some passion or whatever.
Speaker A:And then, of course, Snoop, Snoop, everything he does is passionate and he gets you hyped.
Speaker A:Whatever, whatever.
Speaker A:So on college basketball on tbs, there's this country tree eye singing.
Speaker A:I do not know who he is, but the song that he's singing, at least for me, doesn't remotely get me hyped up for watching any type of basketball.
Speaker A:And I'm kind of just like.
Speaker A:I mean, I guess it was.
Speaker A:It wasn't like, super exciting.
Speaker A:It was kind of melodic, but it's not like, you know, it.
Speaker A:I guess it's more like Michael Jordan listening.
Speaker A:Listening to.
Speaker A:You know who they say listen to Kenny Lattimore before playing basketball.
Speaker A:Like, what the.
Speaker A:You know, you're the few and.
Speaker A:Okay, whatever.
Speaker A:You're the great.
Speaker A:You're one of the greatest players ever listen to.
Speaker A:You want.
Speaker A:Let's do that ain't me.
Speaker A:So once again, I'm sitting there and I'm kind of, you know, the guy's playing the thing for NCAA tournament, and I'm just like.
Speaker A:It doesn't hit me to the point where I'm excited to watch this game because I'm not.
Speaker A:I'm excited because it's basketball, but this guy has just like ruined a lot of excitement.
Speaker A:And I say that to say.
Speaker A:To say this, right?
Speaker A:I feel like it was punished.
Speaker A:Punishment, because, hey, man, when it's all said and done, you know, back in the day, they've had many people do your Sunday Night footballs, your Monday Night Footballs.
Speaker A:You know, NBC likes a certain thing.
Speaker A:ESPN is into the.
Speaker A:To the rap culture, you know, the hip hop culture with their stuff, intros.
Speaker A:You know, if you listen.
Speaker A:If you watch SportsCenter and you see the clip clips, they're always.
Speaker A:A lot of them are always.
Speaker A:Clip of the music is always hip hop for the most part.
Speaker A:And there's always people that you don't know.
Speaker A:But then you realize six months later, holy.
Speaker A:That songs.
Speaker A:That song's crazy.
Speaker A:So shout out to ESPN for doing that.
Speaker A:Yeah, man, whoever does tbs, tnt, y' all need.
Speaker A:Y' all need to.
Speaker A:To fire the Music producer.
Speaker A:Because that dude, I mean, I guess he might get you hyped up for, like.
Speaker A:For like, a bar of mistral or something, but I was just like, I don't want to watch any sport after listening to this, so.
Speaker A:And I'm not.
Speaker A:It's just my opinion.
Speaker A:You go watch it and you.
Speaker A:And you tell me what you think about it.
Speaker A:Once again, I don't know who the dude is.
Speaker A:I just know he's a white dude with a long beard with a big banjo or some.
Speaker A:Like, I wasn't excited.
Speaker C:Maybe they're just trying to appeal to a certain segment of the audience.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:And that's exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker A:And I'm telling them to stop doing that because the rest of us hate it.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker C:You said this for the NCAA tournament?
Speaker A:Yeah, for the men's NCAA tournament.
Speaker A:It's like.
Speaker A:I was like, you know, it's like.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I almost said, like, watching a Kid Rock concert.
Speaker A:But I. I'm not sitting here trying to say that that guy's that bad.
Speaker A:I'm just saying, like, you know, it just wasn't exciting to me, you know, back in the day when Bob with the bar used to excite some energy.
Speaker A:And now, you know, 20 years later, Bob with the bar does nothing to make more to change channel.
Speaker A:So all I'm saying is, don't be Michael Jordan, please.
Speaker A:Kenny Lanimore was that dude.
Speaker A:The rest was, like, exciting, like, to listen to before we get hyped, you know?
Speaker A:Now, if you don't.
Speaker A:If you.
Speaker A:Hey, man, if you one of the greatest players in the world and you listen to some slow jam, don't tell nobody lie, like, it's okay, you know, Because I'm telling you, like, if somebody's sitting here before a game listening to End of the Road.
Speaker A:Yeah, we got some props.
Speaker A:Like Boys and Men breakup songs probably isn't what you want to be listening to before that.
Speaker A:And if I'm correct, I mean, mo.
Speaker A:Y' all might know better.
Speaker A:Kenny Landimore had, like, what, five tracks?
Speaker A:So I don't know what fuck song.
Speaker A:He must listen to the same five song.
Speaker C:I can't remember.
Speaker C:Remember any.
Speaker C:Any Lattimore song?
Speaker C:I just remember.
Speaker C:I don't think any song that he's ever done would inspire anyone to bop their head the way Michael Jordan was bopping his head in that clip in the last day he was doing it.
Speaker C:I'm just like, you.
Speaker C:You listening to something else, or.
Speaker C:Or you've been hanging around a certain segment of your office so long that you forgot how to be on rhythm too.
Speaker A:Because hey, man, last time I remember.
Speaker A:I don't remember kidding.
Speaker A:Lattimore having a lot of up tempo tracks.
Speaker A:It was a lot of like.
Speaker A:But whatever, you know, Shout out to Katie Lanabar.
Speaker A:I mean, shout out.
Speaker B:Are you serious right now?
Speaker A:I mean, like, yo, hey, man, if you had told me.
Speaker A:If you had told me I had music and one of the greatest players on the planet listen to my music.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'd be like, hey, you can say what you want about me, Michael Joy.
Speaker A:Listen to my.
Speaker A:That's all I need.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:I had to listen to what you were talking about on that.
Speaker C:That college basketball thing.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker C:It's given away by Zach Brown band.
Speaker C:It's just so funny because I wasn't talking about that Zach being a.
Speaker C:Because I don't know that Zach Brown.
Speaker C:I don't know Zach background, which, see, now it's important that I said Zach Copeland's last name.
Speaker C:So we know.
Speaker C:So the audience knows that.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker C:I'm not talking about that individual.
Speaker A:I'm calling this episode Zach.
Speaker A:That's what episode.
Speaker A:Go protect the innocent, man.
Speaker A:Protect the innocent.
Speaker A:But yeah, that's all I got.
Speaker A:I mean, what do you think about the song Moby Sissy?
Speaker A:Listen to it.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker C:I'm gonna agree with you.
Speaker C:It doesn't necessarily think.
Speaker C:Make me think any athletic feat is about to happen.
Speaker C:Especially.
Speaker C:Was it.
Speaker C:Was it on NBC?
Speaker A:No, it was on TNT and tbs.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's the problem, man.
Speaker C:We've just been so programmed with like great iconic songs like NBC, the NBA on NBC.
Speaker C:That's such an iconic music that like we just.
Speaker C:It just, you know, like Monday Night Football was the old iconic song.
Speaker C:Like they just.
Speaker C:They just ain't got the energy, man.
Speaker C:And that song didn't inspire anything for me as well.
Speaker C:So I'm gonna agree with you on that.
Speaker C:Like, I don't.
Speaker C:I don't know who they was trying to get hype up for that.
Speaker A:Probably the snail that's on the ground.
Speaker A:Hey, look, Zach Brown.
Speaker A:Zach Brown bad.
Speaker A:Give them their props, man.
Speaker A:They good.
Speaker A:They good at what they do.
Speaker C:Oh, I don't have nothing against them.
Speaker A:That ain't it.
Speaker A:But hey, somebody pays you to sing a song, you just got paid to sing a song.
Speaker A:Get your money.
Speaker C:Somebody thought that song was it some white man who got paid a lot of money was probably like, hey, man, this song gets me inspired every morning.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Fire that guy.
Speaker A:I'm sorry.
Speaker A:Don't fire him.
Speaker B:He's trying.
Speaker C:He's trying to get more people to be.
Speaker C:To engage games that look like him.
Speaker C:Move, move.
Speaker A:Hey, move.
Speaker A:Zach Brown band to.
Speaker A:To hockey.
Speaker A:You know, do that.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker A:Yeah, shout out to Zack Brown, man, but you can't on a song and.
Speaker C:Then say shout out.
Speaker B:That's exactly what my point was.
Speaker B:He did it twice.
Speaker B:He's done this twice.
Speaker B:I'm like, really, bro?
Speaker B:Come on, man.
Speaker A:Hey, many people in this world have shouted out Kenny Lanmore.
Speaker A:Like let's be real.
Speaker A:Nobody knows that K. Lamore still exists except for hearing it on that.
Speaker A:That show.
Speaker C:I'm pretty sure he got.
Speaker C:He got a fan base, man.
Speaker A:He was.
Speaker C:He.
Speaker C:He was.
Speaker C:He was significant enough where he got some fans.
Speaker C:Just.
Speaker C:Just cuz you me or ag don't know any of them don't mean they not out there.
Speaker A:Well, we know one Michael Jordan.
Speaker C:Sure.
Speaker A:I mean, I'm pretty sure Shantae Moore is not a fan of.
Speaker A:Of Kenny Landmore though.
Speaker A:But that's a story from a whole bunch of none of my business.
Speaker A:But yeah, that's all I'm saying.
Speaker A:Like if we're doing music for athletic events, make me wish I was there or at least make me ready to listen to it, not put me to sleep or make me want to do something else.
Speaker A:Like, that's all I'm asking, so.
Speaker C:Music is subjective, buddy.
Speaker C:I'm sure somebody listen to that song and gets hot hype.
Speaker A:I mean, hey, look, man, once again, Kenny Lanore got one person hyped.
Speaker A:I guess it's.
Speaker A:I guess anybody can get hyped or anything.
Speaker C:I mean, Michael Jor was bop his head obscene to that too.
Speaker A:You thought he in the club with that.
Speaker C:I was like, bro, what?
Speaker C:Kenny LA got no track that do that.
Speaker C:None.
Speaker B:Well, that's subjective.
Speaker B:You just said it was subjective.
Speaker B:Apparently.
Speaker B:Apparently.
Speaker B:Apparently to him.
Speaker A:I really hope he was lying.
Speaker B:Why would he lie about that?
Speaker A:Cause as Moby said, there is no fast Kenny Lattimore track that's worth all that.
Speaker B:Maybe his way of getting ready is to calm down.
Speaker C:He thought Kenny.
Speaker C:He thought saying that he was listening to an unreleased Kenny Lattimore album was a flex.
Speaker B:Unreleased.
Speaker C:You and me are going never got released.
Speaker A:Why?
Speaker C:Why was that the flex?
Speaker A: u could have put out there in: Speaker A:You put that.
Speaker C:Thought it was 96, but whatever does.
Speaker A:It doesn't really matter ever.
Speaker B:That's cold.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:And honestly, I thought Killing Animal was in the 80s, which is even worse.
Speaker A:So I mean, you call it code, I call it necessary.
Speaker C:Once again, I don't know.
Speaker C:I can't even think of a Kenny Gladmore song to be honest.
Speaker A:So bro, the only I'm I'm Once again, the only reason I even know who Kaylan Moore is is because the Shantay Moore situation.
Speaker A:That is it.
Speaker A:Like I don't know a song that he's ever written.
Speaker A:Well, he's never sung.
Speaker A:I'm pretty sure he's written some.
Speaker A:I don't know nothing about that guy except that there were altercations with his ex wife.
Speaker A:So with that being said, we're gonna move on from stuff that's not our business and we'll go ahead and close this out.
Speaker A:We appreciate y' all for listening to our show tonight.
Speaker C:Kenny Lattimore, he's my friend.
Speaker A:Share it with him.
Speaker C:I can't.
Speaker A:Let's take this to a brand new episode of a five minute warning.
Speaker A:Once again.
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Speaker A:The five Minute Warning.
Speaker A:I be telling these dudes if you can't afford the maintenance, don't test drive the car.
Speaker A:Well damn if I don't test drive, how else would I know if it's a good ride?
Speaker A:See, good thing I I'm in the car business and I did my due diligence and put up your whole facts.
Speaker A:Your whole fact said you've been ruined and the body's been damaged to the point when it's been considered a total loss.
Speaker A:I haven't checked your acv, which is your actual cooch value.
Speaker A:It was considered a salvage title.
Speaker A:So Riley said the N word before you did that morning.
Speaker C:He says it every morning.
Speaker C:He calls me.
Speaker C:He calls the other kids.
Speaker C:He calls himself all the time.
Speaker C:This, that.
Speaker A:Please.
Speaker C:Have you lost your mind?
Speaker C:Check that hoe, nigga.
Speaker C:You bullshitting.
Speaker C:Break yourself, nigga.
Speaker C:He says it so much, I don't even notice it anymore.
Speaker C:Last week in lunch, Riley says to a classmate, can a nigga borrow a French fry?
Speaker C:And my first thought wasn't, oh, my God, he said the word.
Speaker C:The N word.
Speaker C:It was, now, how is a nigger gonna borrow a fry, nigga?
Speaker C:Is you gonna give it back?
Speaker C:I'm telling you, my inside voice didn't talk like that before he got it.
Speaker C:My class.
Speaker B:Sometimes you see a video and it just hits so close to home that it's spot on.
Speaker C:Did anyone else grow up thinking that they hated mayonnaise?
Speaker B:So anytime you went to a restaurant,.
Speaker A:You ordered a sandwich, you specifically requested no mayonnaise.
Speaker B:Until one day you forgot to do it.
Speaker B:And the sandwich came as the most.
Speaker A:Delicious thing you'd ever taste in your life.
Speaker B:You're like, oh, my gosh, what's this sauce?
Speaker B:It's so good.
Speaker B:And they're like, mayonnaise.
Speaker C:You're like, then why doesn't it taste terrible?
Speaker C:And it turns out your mom just.
Speaker B:Bought Miracle Whip and called it mayonnaise.
Speaker B:So you spent 15 years hating something that you loved.