BSG S3E11 - Planet of the Algae

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Hello and welcome to Who Are You?

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This is a reasonably well done sci-fi

watch cast hosted by two former strangers,

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now friends who were currently watching

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I'm Jair.

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LAura: And I'm Laura, and uh, I'm

really sorry to report that I still

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have sinuses and they are still terrible

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Xhafer: It has been like, it was so

cold today, like it was no, no, my

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driveway has been ice for two weeks.

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LAura: Oh, not jealous of that.

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No.

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Xhafer: It's been bad, but today in

particular, it was just the right

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combination of was raining and

sleeting and then dropped real cold.

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So it's this very moist cold.

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Like, I've done a fair amount

of traveling in my life.

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I've been in like places

that are colder on paper.

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LAura: Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: You know, I've spent a

lot of time in the Twin Cities.

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I spent a lot of time in Wisconsin.

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Places that are degree,

temperature wise, colder.

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And when we talk about what

temperature feels like, we're

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usually talking about windchill, but

humidity factors in a great deal.

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And

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LAura: does.

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Xhafer: that dry cold is a whole

lot easier to live with than a

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LAura: Then wet cold.

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Xhafer: Wet cold is bad and it

is a wet cold here right now.

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LAura: Ugh.

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Xhafer: Beth and I went out to

dinner before we did a little last,

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like the last little vestiges of

Christmas shopping we have to do.

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LAura: Oh, good for you.

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Xhafer: And uh, like we

walked out of the diner.

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I'm just like, fuck, it's frigid.

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Like I didn't know.

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Like it's literally all that could

leave my mouth at that moment.

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It was so bitter cold when we walked out.

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It

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LAura: think the, I think the dryness

here got me this week and it, I, I

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had to address my sinuses in case it's

coming through the radio 'cause I feel

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like I don't sound right, you know.

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Xhafer: I mean, as someone

who's listens to your voice

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for an hour a week on average,

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LAura: Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: I would say slightly

more graphly than normal, but

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not like distractingly, so,

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LAura: yeah.

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Well some of our listeners are very eagle

eared and they would detect it right away.

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So let's just like get,

get that out of the way.

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Friends.

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I think it's the dryness.

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We've set up the humidifier.

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I tried the Neti pot.

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Hopefully it gets better tomorrow

'cause it's been a couple of days of

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this and I'm just like tired of them.

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I would just like to not

have sinuses anymore.

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Please.

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Thank you.

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Xhafer: I'm hoping that this

week I'm about to spend in

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Florida helps with that a

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LAura: Oh yeah, that should keep you nice.

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Keep all the passages nice and

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Xhafer: I'm, I mean, it's, you know,

I'm, I'll be at my uncle's, my uncle

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moved down there for this exact reason is

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LAura: keeping the passages moist.

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Xhafer: constantly being fucky

in Michigan and him being sick

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of it, and him moving down there

where his passages are not fucky.

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And I just like, I, I, I

probably have the same problem.

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Exactly.

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You know, like it's something

that he complains about.

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It's something my dad complained about.

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LAura: Yeah,

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Xhafer: It's probably the exact same shit.

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LAura: I definitely have dad sinuses.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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And it's just like, fuck

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LAura: I don't wanna go to Florida.

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They're weird.

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Xhafer: Okay.

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I,

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LAura: No offense.

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I would go to hang out with Jeremy Siegel.

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That's why I would go to

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Xhafer: a hundred percent.

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And I'm not gonna be anywhere near him.

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I checked.

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Uh, Otherwise I, Jeremy, if you're

listening, I did check and I

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was gonna reach out to you if I

was gonna be anywhere near you.

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But I'm gonna be down in

Fort Myers and it's a drive.

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I don't want to go, I mean, I will have

a fun time being with my sister and

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my mom and my uncle over Christmas.

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LAura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: I do not want to do this.

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I do not wanna drive to Florida.

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It's a 20 hour drive.

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LAura: That's a bit of

a schlep, as they say.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: that's a bit much.

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but it is what it is.

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You know, it's for mom, it's ma

it's making sure she can winter

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down there and have her car.

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That's what we're doing.

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LAura: Yeah.

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I hope our listeners got to do

something nice with people that

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they love over this changing of the

seasons here, changing of the years.

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Xhafer: It's, it's New Year's

Eve if you're listening

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on the day this comes out.

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Uh, happy New Year.

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LAura: Happy New Year.

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Xhafer: I mean we're, I'm

talking about things that were

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two and a half weeks ago now.

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Um,

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LAura: Please, please, say a

little non-denominational prayer

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that Laura's sinuses are better

by now when you're hearing this.

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Xhafer: fuck.

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Bless up.

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Let's hope so.

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LAura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: That'd be rough.

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LAura: you know what else is rough?

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Xhafer: Well, I was gonna

say Florida gets a bad rap.

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It's not that Florida is crazier

than the rest of the country.

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And I literally dropped this exact same

anecdote on a recording of last time

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on that airs two weeks before this,

but we just did for me 15 minutes ago.

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LAura: Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: Uh, Which is, it's

not that Florida is crazy.

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People down there are crazy.

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I mean, there's some of that for sure.

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But it's that Florida's freedom of

information laws make it that all

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matters of police records are public.

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And so it's significantly easier for

people to find out about how crazy shit

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that happens in Florida, which is why

it gets targeted by the news so much

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LAura: yeah.

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Florida man does X

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Xhafer: yeah, it's just easy click bait

because they don't have to do as much

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research or go through legal proceedings

or make requests for information.

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It's all just public record.

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And so it's very easy to find out

crazy shit that happens in Florida

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and make stories out of it rather than

more crazy shit happens in Florida,

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LAura: That's fun.

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Yeah.

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but,

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Xhafer: shit does happen in Florida.

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LAura: I do know people who have

moved to Florida to be crazy,

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so also there's that.

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Xhafer: Yeah, I mean, look, I'm

not saying Florida's not crazy.

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I'm saying that some of

the rap is unwarranted.

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LAura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: Some of it.

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I mean, it all still happened in Florida.

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It's all, you know, it's not

like they're making stuff up.

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I mean, unless they are,

in which case, fuck 'em.

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But you know, all of those things you

hear about happening in Florida from

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the news that are irreparable sources

that actually are citing something

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that still fucking happened in Florida.

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LAura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: Sorry, I ruined your segue.

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So this episode,

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LAura: No, I was, I was trying to

give, come up with a new one and I was

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Xhafer: I mean, Florida

Planet of the Algae.

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LAura: yeah, I was, I was thinking

about Florida swamps and I was like,

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those are probably full of algae.

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Algae.

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That's how I've decided, I'm gonna

weird up the word for this episode.

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I saw someone talking about our

pronunciations of things and

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Xhafer: The magic blurred ne.

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LAura: the magic blurred algae.

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Xhafer: Earner,

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LAura: You know, I'm actually

pretty disappointed with the

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algae on this algae planet.

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I did not get to see any algae.

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Xhafer: No

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algae whatsoever.

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It's all mountains.

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What the fuck?

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It's all just California again.

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Can't fool me or Vancouver.

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But yeah,

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LAura: I don't associate

mountains with algae.

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I mean, I suppose it could happen,

but it feels like that's a very

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flat thing, like algae grows where

there's lots of water and flat.

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Xhafer: right?

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Yeah.

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LAura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: Well, water is naturally flat, so

no, there's no such thing as a water hill.

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I mean an iceberg.

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I don't know.

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Not the

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same,

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LAura: Hmm, Yeah.

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Xhafer: not what we're here to talk about.

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What we are here to talk

about is Battlestar Galactica,

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season three, episode 11.

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The eye of Jupiter.

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we get some LTOs that are mostly to remind

us about hair's plot up until this point.

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LAura: Oh, and that specs

and Lee were a thing.

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Uh, And we are here for algae.

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We, we need to tell you that right

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Xhafer: new?

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Sps.

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LAura: Oh.

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I write her, we call her star Bs, but

in my notes I write specs because that's

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the ticker symbol of Starbucks, SBUX.

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Xhafer: SPS now.

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Okay, cool.

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LAura: Uh, star bees is good too.

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Xhafer: Star be's.

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LAura: Yeah, no, I've always

just gone with the ticker symbol.

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'cause it is pretty, pretty

good, like as ticker symbols go.

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Nice job.

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Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: We're on the planet of the algae.

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It's been two weeks.

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When Tiros tinnitus goes off, you

hear something in the distance.

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He dismisses it and talks to Anders and

this algae is just barely a food stuff.

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They're complaining about it, but it is

plentiful, even though we see none of it.

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LAura: Okay.

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And also the color grating on this planet.

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You know, we had very, like, we had

different times of day on Caprica.

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We had Caprica yellow, Caprica orange.

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This planet is very like white

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Xhafer: Yes.

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LAura: and I just don't

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Xhafer: Like algae.

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LAura: Yeah.

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It's just not an algae color for me.

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Like it's gotta be somewhere

in the greens and the blues.

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Xhafer: Yeah,

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LAura: I suppose there could be

a white algae and if you, Hey, if

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you know about the white algae,

pop it, the discord for me.

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But yeah, this mountains plus white

plus everything else, not algae

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Xhafer: White chlorophyll is a thing,

so I'm assuming white algae is a thing.

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I can't even say algae anymore.

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LAura: It's just alga.

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Xhafer: It's just algae Now.

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Galen wants to find

the planet a hot fudge.

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Hell yeah,

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LAura: Yeah, me too.

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That would be great.

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Xhafer: I mean, we are recording obviously

pre-Christmas, as we just discussed.

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Hot chocolate, very Christmas time.

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Treat for me,

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LAura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: so I'm just thinking

about that right now.

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LAura: I need to get invited

to more parties that have

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like the chocolate fountain.

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Xhafer: Beth's

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family, chocolate fountain tradition.

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LAura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: They well ch well, chocolate

fondue tradition, not chocolate fountain.

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It's in a big

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LAura: I, I would settle for fondue.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: Yeah, it's a good time.

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But uh, chocolate fondue is

definitely in there and I, that's,

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to me, chocolate fondue is the

lakes of, in the planet of hot fudge

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LAura: Mm.

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Xhafer: and I want to go there.

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Dark chocolate mountains.

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Just take a bite.

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LAura: that'd be fine.

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I will be fine with those mountains.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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LAura: Yeah.

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They can even have a little

white chocolate at the top

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and I'm fine with it.

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Xhafer: I don't know about that.

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I don't wanna, it's, it sounds

like it's wet cold up there.

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I'm not interested.

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I guess if it gets cold on

the planet of hot fudge.

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LAura: Hey, you know

what else is wet, cold?

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This conversation leader Lee

has about their, about how much

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Kara is coming to visit the

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Xhafer: right.

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Dean knows she gives him the not

even appropriate amount of shit.

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He deserves more shit for his.

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LAura: Oh, he deserves some more shit.

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Xhafer: Super shitty behavior here.

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She is just aware the entire time.

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He's like, oh, well

I'm going to go say hi.

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Oh, okay, Lee, why, why does it

take you 30 minutes to say hi?

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Every time Kara shows up?

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LAura: Yeah.

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The, I've seen the checklist.

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It's one page, like you guys

should, it doesn't take 30

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minutes to go over one page.

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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LAura: And we find out they're

really going for it still.

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Like

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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LAura: they barely say hello

to each other and they're just

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making out in this raptor,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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I, my notes say that they start

at each other immediately, and

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I do mean sexually to be clear.

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Listener.

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Uh, Yeah.

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God damnit I, this, I'm so upset by this.

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LAura: yeah, me too.

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Xhafer: Because of every consequence

of these actions that they're taking.

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Dee doesn't deserve this,

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LAura: No, Anders doesn't

deserve this either.

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I don't know.

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It's just,

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Xhafer: Anders.

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Well, I mean, was it this episode

or next episode where Anders is

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all like, dude, of course I know.

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Like

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LAura: it's this episode.

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Yes.

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He, he actually, I, I

pointed it out to Erin.

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I was like, he said,

you are not the first,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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LAura: so she's been cheating

on him with other people,

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presumably, like on new Caprica

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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LAura: and,

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Xhafer: Well, yeah.

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I mean, Anders, Anders at the very

least is like aware of who he married.

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LAura: yeah.

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Xhafer: Dee was all like, yeah, we can

get married until you run back to Kara.

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Sure.

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'cause we're gonna die before

that happens, so I'm not gonna

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have to deal with that pain.

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That's Dee's explicitly stated

outlook to Lee, which he rebuked.

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And is now doing exactly that thing.

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LAura: Yes.

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Xhafer: Fuck you, Lee.

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LAura: Not a hundred percent sure.

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Even though Dee was expressing like,

I'm fully aware of everything that

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she really was though, because she

also says the stuff about like, I

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love you 'cause you're like your dad.

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And like maybe there was like a

secret hope from Dee that Lee's

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gonna step up and be more like Daddy

Adama who probably wouldn't do this.

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Like, I mean, we don't know, but

it, the, the Adama were shown

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probably wouldn't behave this way.

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He and mommy Rosalyn are pretty tight.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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LAura: Yeah.

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But also, while all of this is going

on in the Raptor, we cut back and

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the hills are calling to Teel again.

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Xhafer: Yeah, the hills are calling

and he starts to wander out.

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Starbuck gets really religious

when Lee brings up divorce.

343

: 00:14:53

LAura: Yes, this, this, this

is where I got like super mad.

344

: 00:14:58

I was like, oh, not pleased

with the affair stuff.

345

: 00:15:01

But then Lee's like, I, I can't

do this to, he, I've gotta let

346

: 00:15:06

her go and we can be together.

347

: 00:15:08

And Starbucks is like, I would

never divorce my husband.

348

: 00:15:11

I'm just gonna run around

and do all this stuff.

349

: 00:15:14

Xhafer: Yeah.

350

: 00:15:16

I

351

: 00:15:16

swore in oath before the gods

that I'd stay married to one man.

352

: 00:15:19

I didn't say anything about banging.

353

: 00:15:21

No one else, just like the cognitive

dissonance is strong with this one.

354

: 00:15:28

LAura: it's, and it's the letter of

the law, not the spirit of the law.

355

: 00:15:32

Pretty sure.

356

: 00:15:33

Xhafer: yeah, it's, it's rough,

357

: 00:15:35

LAura: Oh, Starbucks.

358

: 00:15:37

Xhafer: I guess.

359

: 00:15:37

they really did leave all

the Mormon stuff out of this.

360

: 00:15:39

Revote.

361

: 00:15:41

Hey, low hanging fruit.

362

: 00:15:44

All right.

363

: 00:15:44

Got one in.

364

: 00:15:46

LAura: Yeah, these people are nuts.

365

: 00:15:48

and, she's Like, I, I can't do a

divorce that's against my religion.

366

: 00:15:52

Xhafer: Yeah,

367

: 00:15:53

LAura: And he's like, well, I can't

do this to d And she's like, so

368

: 00:15:59

we're just gonna stop making out.

369

: 00:16:02

I'm like,

370

: 00:16:03

Xhafer: I fucking hope so.

371

: 00:16:05

LAura: that's the only

place this can lead.

372

: 00:16:08

Right?

373

: 00:16:09

Like, if you're both stuck in

these things, I don't know.

374

: 00:16:14

I am a little worried about next time.

375

: 00:16:17

Next time on,

376

: 00:16:19

Xhafer: over on the Bay

Star Baltar has dreams,

377

: 00:16:22

As he hears hair crying.

378

: 00:16:25

LAura: huh.

379

: 00:16:26

Xhafer: 'cause the silence don't make ies.

380

: 00:16:29

Sharon tells us that

her isn't feeling well.

381

: 00:16:33

This is a Sharon.

382

: 00:16:34

We find out this is Boomer later

383

: 00:16:36

LAura: Uh,

384

: 00:16:36

yeah.

385

: 00:16:37

Okay.

386

: 00:16:38

Xhafer: that her isn't feeling well.

387

: 00:16:40

As we see more of Tyro wandering

off and finding a really cool

388

: 00:16:44

rock and he goes to check it out.

389

: 00:16:47

We get this really moody sequence where

bear fills the silence of him wandering

390

: 00:16:52

with these like wind chimes and drums.

391

: 00:16:56

Fuck yeah.

392

: 00:16:57

I love this stuff.

393

: 00:16:59

LAura: Very good stuff.

394

: 00:17:01

Xhafer: Anytime you can just give

three minutes to bear McCreary.

395

: 00:17:05

It's three minutes.

396

: 00:17:05

I wanna watch this show.

397

: 00:17:08

LAura: Yeah.

398

: 00:17:08

I cannot wait until I am done

with season three, so I can add

399

: 00:17:13

that into my study music rotation,

the season three soundtrack.

400

: 00:17:16

Xhafer: Oh Yeah,

401

: 00:17:17

LAura: Yeah, but I'm trying not to, not

trying not to add it in case there's

402

: 00:17:21

any titles that might be a problem.

403

: 00:17:24

Xhafer: you shouldn't, you definitely

should not look at the soundtrack title

404

: 00:17:28

because I, I know, I, I think I can

think of two off the top of my head

405

: 00:17:34

That are like fucking problems.

406

: 00:17:38

LAura: noted.

407

: 00:17:39

Won't do it.

408

: 00:17:40

Xhafer: I'm about to

double check this shit.

409

: 00:17:43

'cause I think that's season three.

410

: 00:17:45

LAura: Oh, you're just gonna make me wanna

know more and I can't, 'cause I'm a very.

411

: 00:17:52

Lawful good.

412

: 00:17:53

And I will not expose myself to spoilers.

413

: 00:17:56

Xhafer: Yeah.

414

: 00:17:57

I'm gonna say, yeah.

415

: 00:17:59

There's one title in here

that you still need to avoid.

416

: 00:18:02

LAura: Okay.

417

: 00:18:04

I will

418

: 00:18:04

Xhafer: Um, and then there will

be a thing that will start making

419

: 00:18:07

sense about some other stuff later.

420

: 00:18:10

LAura: Cool.

421

: 00:18:11

Xhafer: Yep.

422

: 00:18:12

You'll know.

423

: 00:18:13

You'll know the second you hear it.

424

: 00:18:15

Don't worry about that.

425

: 00:18:18

LAura: I sure hope some of this stuff that

Tyrell's wandering into makes sense later.

426

: 00:18:23

Xhafer: Uh, We'll see.

427

: 00:18:24

But before we get to that, we've

got a survivor count 41,402 down 18,

428

: 00:18:32

which is cat Sacrifice, the skeleton

crews of the Adriatic and the Corina.

429

: 00:18:38

LAura: Okay.

430

: 00:18:39

that's not too bad.

431

: 00:18:41

Xhafer: It could have been a lot worse

432

: 00:18:42

LAura: Could have been a lot worse.

433

: 00:18:43

Xhafer: for losing two ships.

434

: 00:18:45

Well, yeah.

435

: 00:18:47

Carbon dating after we get back

from theme tells them the temple

436

: 00:18:51

is 4,000 years old, which aligns

with the exodus of the 13th tribe.

437

: 00:18:57

Uh, carbon dating

hypothetically possible here.

438

: 00:19:02

Scientifically you need to know,

like about the carbon record over

439

: 00:19:06

time to know, to be able to properly

carbon date stuff because it's about

440

: 00:19:11

the amount of carbon in things.

441

: 00:19:14

Right.

442

: 00:19:14

And so like if a volcano erupted for

a thousand years ago or: 2000

443

: 00:19:20

ago, that might fuck up the carbon

for when you're trying to date things

444

: 00:19:25

later, you know, stuff like that.

445

: 00:19:28

Things that are, events like

that, that could do that.

446

: 00:19:31

Um, so hypothetically they could

reverse engineer it through a handful

447

: 00:19:35

of samples from around different

parts of the planet, which they might

448

: 00:19:38

be able to do remotely when they're

scanning the planet before they show up.

449

: 00:19:42

We don't know what their technology

is like but this is probably bullshit,

450

: 00:19:47

LAura: Yeah.

451

: 00:19:47

Xhafer: at the very least for our level

of how we currently carbon date things.

452

: 00:19:52

This would be a big stretch,

but, you know, they can also move

453

: 00:19:56

instantaneously through space without,

you know, moving through space.

454

: 00:20:00

So fuck it.

455

: 00:20:04

As we talked about in the discord.

456

: 00:20:07

This morning, yesterday, maybe about

about the jump jump technology and

457

: 00:20:13

how it may or may not actually work.

458

: 00:20:15

Yeah, it's like who fucking knows?

459

: 00:20:18

LAura: Yeah, we gotta move some plot

really quickly, so let's carbon date.

460

: 00:20:22

Sure.

461

: 00:20:23

Xhafer: Fuck it.

462

: 00:20:24

Terl is talking to mommy and daddy, who

are very proud of him for his discovery.

463

: 00:20:30

Rosalyn asked about the eye of Jupiter,

a marker left on the path to earth.

464

: 00:20:36

And this is when four base ships jump in.

465

: 00:20:39

The city fleet jumps away, and

then the cylons hail the fleet

466

: 00:20:44

for the first fucking time,

467

: 00:20:46

LAura: Yeah.

468

: 00:20:47

Xhafer: and it's just gais fucking baltar.

469

: 00:20:50

The

470

: 00:20:51

disappointment.

471

: 00:20:53

LAura: Yep.

472

: 00:20:54

And disappointment on my screen.

473

: 00:20:56

I don't think this is a spoiler or

anything, but when the subtitles came

474

: 00:21:03

on, it said s for when Gais was talking.

475

: 00:21:07

Xhafer: Ooh,

476

: 00:21:08

LAura: I was like, no, he

can't actually be a silo.

477

: 00:21:12

I think that's just like them

trying to say it's the silo ship.

478

: 00:21:17

Xhafer: yeah.

479

: 00:21:19

LAura: You better not be

spoiling anything there.

480

: 00:21:22

Uh, Subtitles.

481

: 00:21:23

because I still am on train.

482

: 00:21:26

Gais not a silent.

483

: 00:21:28

Be very mad if he is.

484

: 00:21:32

There's the face.

485

: 00:21:33

The face has hands.

486

: 00:21:34

This time

487

: 00:21:35

Xhafer: Yeah.

488

: 00:21:36

Well, it's because I had to give Ben

the face when we were recording LTO

489

: 00:21:40

half an hour ago now.

490

: 00:21:42

So it, it's, it's a practiced face at

491

: 00:21:45

LAura: Yeah.

492

: 00:21:46

It looked good.

493

: 00:21:46

Yeah.

494

: 00:21:47

Well rehearsed.

495

: 00:21:48

Xhafer: Thank you.

496

: 00:21:49

the face Papa Dama makes, when

it's Baltar's voice give Eddie

497

: 00:21:54

Olmos all the fucking awards.

498

: 00:21:58

LAura: He, his face looks like how I feel.

499

: 00:22:00

Xhafer: yeah.

500

: 00:22:01

Rosalyn and Adama are willing to

put up with this for extra time

501

: 00:22:06

to evac everyone on the planet and

to look for the eye at Jupiter.

502

: 00:22:09

So

503

: 00:22:09

LAura: Yeah.

504

: 00:22:10

Let's stall a bit.

505

: 00:22:12

Mm-hmm.

506

: 00:22:13

Xhafer: as Ty escorts.

507

: 00:22:14

Deanna Boomer, a Caval and Baltar,

508

: 00:22:18

LAura: Yeah.

509

: 00:22:19

Xhafer: six PT is around

because CAPA's not here.

510

: 00:22:24

Uh, Talking to Baltar about

how much he misses this ship.

511

: 00:22:29

She's like, well, if you're a

cylon like you think you are,

512

: 00:22:32

then that's just fake programming.

513

: 00:22:35

And that's like real fucking diminutive

for someone whose mission was to

514

: 00:22:40

love that guy and loves that guy.

515

: 00:22:44

Right?

516

: 00:22:45

Like I don't think of all of

the characters in the show of

517

: 00:22:48

all of the CY characters to

dismiss emotion as programming.

518

: 00:22:52

Caprica six is the most

hypocritical to do so.

519

: 00:22:56

LAura: Yeah.

520

: 00:22:57

Six PT also reminds him like,

I know you're feeling nostalgic

521

: 00:23:02

right now and that you think you're

home, but these people will murder

522

: 00:23:07

you if they're given the chance.

523

: 00:23:09

If you stay on this

ship, you are a dead man.

524

: 00:23:11

Xhafer: Oh, for sure.

525

: 00:23:14

Athena calls out that, hey,

that's Boomer and she isn't

526

: 00:23:18

allowed to the conference anymore.

527

: 00:23:21

LAura: This was totally done on purpose.

528

: 00:23:23

Yeah.

529

: 00:23:24

This becomes clear it pretty much

immediately I was like, uhoh.

530

: 00:23:29

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

531

: 00:23:30

LAura: Mm-hmm.

532

: 00:23:30

We wanted her to have to stay behind.

533

: 00:23:34

That's definitely a plan.

534

: 00:23:36

Xhafer: Ballar gets a little

emotional, but Bill won't have

535

: 00:23:38

it as they're all meeting.

536

: 00:23:40

Ka and Gianna are like, you

keep SOJ, that's a, that's a

537

: 00:23:44

Diablo two reference that I'm

538

: 00:23:46

LAura: Oh,

539

: 00:23:47

Xhafer: one listener might have.

540

: 00:23:48

Understood.

541

: 00:23:49

LAura: I'm just mad that guys has the

audacity to call Rosalyn by her first

542

: 00:23:54

name, and he's like, Misty, like,

I missed you, Laura, or something.

543

: 00:23:59

And I was like, fuck off.

544

: 00:24:01

I hate you.

545

: 00:24:03

Xhafer: Does he know

she's president right now?

546

: 00:24:07

LAura: I,

547

: 00:24:08

Xhafer: He

548

: 00:24:09

LAura: he he is pretty good at like

context clues, I think like, yeah.

549

: 00:24:14

Xhafer: You know, could have made a

jab about taking his desk or something.

550

: 00:24:20

Being unelected president again?

551

: 00:24:24

Again.

552

: 00:24:24

Again.

553

: 00:24:25

. Uh, Kevin and Deanna don't think that

they have the eye of Jupiter yet.

554

: 00:24:30

And they say that openly Baltar starts to

talk and roly just like fucking leaves.

555

: 00:24:37

LAura: Yeah.

556

: 00:24:38

She's like, you can handle this one, bill.

557

: 00:24:41

Xhafer: Yeah.

558

: 00:24:41

LAura: need to be here.

559

: 00:24:42

Xhafer: And the silences are like,

okay, well just give us the IA

560

: 00:24:45

Jupiter and we'll let you all live.

561

: 00:24:48

Also, fuck it.

562

: 00:24:49

We'll give you a ballar.

563

: 00:24:51

LAura: Yeah.

564

: 00:24:52

You can have this guy

and do whatever you want.

565

: 00:24:54

Xhafer: Yep.

566

: 00:24:55

We don't care.

567

: 00:24:55

Fucking get rid of him.

568

: 00:24:56

He's a problem for us.

569

: 00:24:57

Anyways

570

: 00:24:58

LAura: Tempting.

571

: 00:24:59

Xhafer: this is when Boomer tells

Athena that Hera is alive and sick.

572

: 00:25:04

LAura: Yeah.

573

: 00:25:05

So much for magic blurred.

574

: 00:25:06

Xhafer: Yeah.

575

: 00:25:07

LAura: They also know that it

was Roslyn, they uncovered enough

576

: 00:25:11

evidence on new Caprica that

Rosalyn is the one who did this.

577

: 00:25:18

So, not great.

578

: 00:25:20

Not gonna be probably a

579

: 00:25:21

problem.

580

: 00:25:22

Xhafer: Yeah.

581

: 00:25:25

tells Deanna that if the silos

try to land on the planet, he's

582

: 00:25:28

going to nuke the surface just to

prevent them from getting the eye.

583

: 00:25:37

Lee is getting instructions from dad when

the silences block all communication,

584

: 00:25:42

LAura: Mm-hmm.

585

: 00:25:43

Xhafer: Leaving a dozen Marine and

five military to defend the temple.

586

: 00:25:48

LAura: Yeah.

587

: 00:25:49

And then some civilian like

groups that were there.

588

: 00:25:53

Yeah.

589

: 00:25:54

The, the tear rolls.

590

: 00:25:56

The Callies?

591

: 00:25:56

Yeah.

592

: 00:25:57

Xhafer: Kara suggests leveraging

Sam to lead the cities in a militia

593

: 00:26:04

LAura: Mm-hmm.

594

: 00:26:06

Xhafer: And this is where he's all

like, look, I've done gorilla stuff.

595

: 00:26:10

I've never defended a position before.

596

: 00:26:13

LAura: Yeah, we

specifically didn't do that.

597

: 00:26:16

Xhafer: we actually saw

him do that at one point.

598

: 00:26:19

On New Capra or on, not on

new Caprica, on Caprica.

599

: 00:26:23

When they were all holed up and they were

surrounded and stuff, they like defended

600

: 00:26:28

that one thing where Caval was there,

but they, we didn't see him till the end.

601

: 00:26:32

They defended that position for a bit.

602

: 00:26:35

Uh,

603

: 00:26:36

But yeah uh, whatever.

604

: 00:26:38

You know, I, it's a fair

point Sam is making here.

605

: 00:26:41

He is not the person to lead

the defense of a position.

606

: 00:26:45

LAura: Yeah.

607

: 00:26:45

Regardless of all the other weird

shit among these three people.

608

: 00:26:50

Xhafer: Yeah.

609

: 00:26:51

Lee's like, it's cool.

610

: 00:26:52

Just shoot sirens while we do

all of the important stuff.

611

: 00:27:03

LAura: Starbuck at one point tries

to diffuse the tension between these

612

: 00:27:07

two men, and it goes very poorly.

613

: 00:27:10

Xhafer: Yeah.

614

: 00:27:12

Tyrell and Callie talk

about his childhood.

615

: 00:27:15

Uh, He talks about defiling, his

mother's prayer room, like dancing

616

: 00:27:20

around it naked with porno mags.

617

: 00:27:23

LAura: Yeah.

618

: 00:27:25

Callie, I don't know.

619

: 00:27:27

I just don't like her.

620

: 00:27:28

I guess she's so reverent.

621

: 00:27:31

Or she, she tells him he's so

reverent in here and she's,

622

: 00:27:35

she's like, I miss our son.

623

: 00:27:38

Do you think he's okay?

624

: 00:27:40

I'm just like, oh, honey.

625

: 00:27:44

Like, I don't know.

626

: 00:27:46

I guess they're in a bad spot, but I'm

like, man, I can't, it's hard for me to

627

: 00:27:50

suspend my disbelief and be like, yeah,

she's so indispensable that she has to

628

: 00:27:55

be on this planet and not with her child.

629

: 00:27:58

Like, I don't know, like when, if I'd

watched it at the age that you watched it.

630

: 00:28:06

Probably wouldn't have like

been a thing for me at all.

631

: 00:28:10

Like it would've glossed right over it.

632

: 00:28:12

But like being a mother now,

I'm like, I don't, I don't,

633

: 00:28:15

think this is how this would actually go.

634

: 00:28:17

Xhafer: Yeah, I don't, it

doesn't feel right to me.

635

: 00:28:20

LAura: Yeah.

636

: 00:28:20

And I don't like her.

637

: 00:28:22

I just don't.

638

: 00:28:23

Um, and you know, he's having his weird

guilt about setting bombs in a holy place,

639

: 00:28:29

even though he danced around his mother's

prayer room with naked with porno mags.

640

: 00:28:32

I don't know.

641

: 00:28:33

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

642

: 00:28:33

Yep.

643

: 00:28:35

He's multifaceted.

644

: 00:28:37

LAura: Yeah.

645

: 00:28:38

The

646

: 00:28:38

Xhafer: Uh,

647

: 00:28:38

LAura: of tiro.

648

: 00:28:40

Xhafer: gada finds out the stars

on the verge of going supernova.

649

: 00:28:44

LAura: Oh yeah.

650

: 00:28:46

We're gonna go supernova.

651

: 00:28:47

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

652

: 00:28:49

Magic Bird Ne supernova.

653

: 00:28:52

Oh,

654

: 00:28:53

LAura: You forgot.

655

: 00:28:55

Xhafer: NOIE.

656

: 00:28:57

I hope they got enough

algae before it goes nerve.

657

: 00:29:04

LAura: So this is, this supernova is set

up right now in this, I can only assume

658

: 00:29:12

that this is Chekhov's Supernova and it

is gonna go off in the second part of

659

: 00:29:17

Xhafer: Yeah.

660

: 00:29:18

You don't introduce a supernova in

the first act if you're not going

661

: 00:29:22

to use it in the third For sure.

662

: 00:29:26

The Silent Model UN benefits

from having the budget to bring

663

: 00:29:29

Dean Stockwell on this episode.

664

: 00:29:32

You know, he won two

Golden Globes in his life.

665

: 00:29:35

LAura: Oh no I didn't.

666

: 00:29:36

Xhafer: He won one in

: 1990

667

: 00:29:40

LAura: Wow.

668

: 00:29:41

Okay.

669

: 00:29:41

Did not know that show won awards.

670

: 00:29:43

Xhafer: and he won the other in

: 1947

671

: 00:29:50

where he won best juvenile actor.

672

: 00:29:53

He won a Golden Globe at nine and at 52.

673

: 00:29:58

LAura: That is really impressive actually.

674

: 00:30:03

Wow.

675

: 00:30:04

1947 and then in 1990.

676

: 00:30:08

Xhafer: Yeah,

677

: 00:30:08

LAura: Wow.

678

: 00:30:09

Xhafer: right.

679

: 00:30:11

LAura: I'm just like in awe.

680

: 00:30:13

Xhafer: Yeah, I mean, I was just like,

oh, Dean Stockwell, you know, was he

681

: 00:30:17

doing anything else around this time?

682

: 00:30:19

And I Google him and I'm just like

reading about him just like, oh shit.

683

: 00:30:22

That's crazy.

684

: 00:30:24

LAura: He's not still with us.

685

: 00:30:25

Right.

686

: 00:30:26

Xhafer: no, he passed, oh God.

687

: 00:30:30

2016, right?

688

: 00:30:34

Oh, 2021.

689

: 00:30:36

LAura: Wow.

690

: 00:30:36

This show is having a better track

record than, um, Babylon five, for sure.

691

: 00:30:41

Xhafer: Well, it is, you

know, like a decade later and

692

: 00:30:45

also a notably younger cast.

693

: 00:30:49

LAura: Yeah.

694

: 00:30:49

I mean, some of the people that

we've lost from Babylon five,

695

: 00:30:51

it's like, wow, they died early.

696

: 00:30:54

Not like Andreas, Andreas was

697

: 00:30:57

Xhafer: well,

698

: 00:30:57

LAura: older in

699

: 00:30:58

Xhafer: then, like they were in

their thirties making that show

700

: 00:31:03

LAura: Yeah.

701

: 00:31:03

Yeah,

702

: 00:31:04

Xhafer: and people are ma in

their twenties doing this one,

703

: 00:31:08

LAura: yeah.

704

: 00:31:09

That's true.

705

: 00:31:10

Xhafer: and it's 10 years later.

706

: 00:31:11

This is a 20 year difference.

707

: 00:31:12

So

708

: 00:31:13

LAura: Yeah.

709

: 00:31:14

Xhafer: Deanna reveals uh, that

she snuck a heavy raider down on

710

: 00:31:17

the surface when they jumped in.

711

: 00:31:20

LAura: Uhhuh did not discuss that

712

: 00:31:22

Xhafer: Yep.

713

: 00:31:23

LAura: the model.

714

: 00:31:23

You in

715

: 00:31:24

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

716

: 00:31:25

LAura: little sticky point here.

717

: 00:31:27

Caprica seems pretty perturbed about it

718

: 00:31:31

Xhafer: Yeah.

719

: 00:31:31

One of many things they'll

be upset about with Deanna.

720

: 00:31:34

LAura: at this point.

721

: 00:31:36

I had Aaron p while I was making notes

and I complained at him where I was

722

: 00:31:40

like, I'm still not clear on why they

should even fucking care about Earth.

723

: 00:31:47

And he's like, it'll, it'll get resolved.

724

: 00:31:51

But I was like, it's got to

because I don't understand

725

: 00:31:55

like, is it just that these are

726

: 00:31:58

where

727

: 00:31:59

Xhafer: where the

728

: 00:31:59

thir

729

: 00:32:00

LAura: are and we need to.

730

: 00:32:01

Xhafer: tribe went.

731

: 00:32:02

LAura: We need to wipe

out the last humans too.

732

: 00:32:04

So we need these humans to

lead us to there so we can get

733

: 00:32:07

rid of those humans as well.

734

: 00:32:09

I don't know, they're just,

735

: 00:32:11

it's sort of, it's sort of

opaque at this point and I don't

736

: 00:32:17

Xhafer: you might not know their plan.

737

: 00:32:19

They might not, all of them

might not know their plan,

738

: 00:32:21

LAura: yeah.

739

: 00:32:22

Clearly they don't know the who

the other Final five silence are.

740

: 00:32:25

Xhafer: Yeah, man.

741

: 00:32:26

What a plot point that could be.

742

: 00:32:32

LAura: I, I have a feeling this

is a very like timely bitching.

743

: 00:32:39

Xhafer: Yeah.

744

: 00:32:39

You haven't watched the

next one yet, right?

745

: 00:32:41

LAura: no, I have not

watched the next one yet.

746

: 00:32:43

I told Aaron, I was like, I

need some resolution on some

747

: 00:32:46

of this stuff 'cause I am

748

: 00:32:47

Xhafer: don't worry.

749

: 00:32:48

You get some of it.

750

: 00:32:49

Next episode, you get read.

751

: 00:32:51

In fact, I will say right now there is a

storyline that you have complained about.

752

: 00:32:57

Numerous times in season

three that gets resolved.

753

: 00:33:01

Next episode,

754

: 00:33:04

LAura: Satisfying.

755

: 00:33:05

Good.

756

: 00:33:05

I will watch it tonight then.

757

: 00:33:06

'cause I'm fucking tired.

758

: 00:33:08

Xhafer: I think, I think two, I think

it's fair to say two major plot lines.

759

: 00:33:13

Either take their next

big step or are resolved

760

: 00:33:18

in the next episode.

761

: 00:33:19

LAura: Okay.

762

: 00:33:20

Little tired of just endless

763

: 00:33:22

piano

764

: 00:33:22

looping.

765

: 00:33:22

Xhafer: I'll say they take their next big

step because Resolved has implications

766

: 00:33:27

that I don't feel like are necessarily

true, or even if they are true, I should

767

: 00:33:32

be making as in a spoiler free sense.

768

: 00:33:35

LAura: But it is Deanna's Raider

on the surface that was able

769

: 00:33:38

to cut off their communication

770

: 00:33:41

uh, that's, that's kind of

what she implies, right.

771

: 00:33:44

And that she's got centurions down there

that are just gonna go get the eye, even

772

: 00:33:49

though nobody knows exactly what it is.

773

: 00:33:51

And then we'll just be able to

destroy the Galactica and we can

774

: 00:33:54

go on, do the

775

: 00:33:55

Xhafer: I'll sneak in there.

776

: 00:33:56

Anders has given out assignments

to civilians to distribute ammo,

777

: 00:34:01

cashs, and build tillium mines.

778

: 00:34:04

Lee compliments Anders saying he'd make

a good officer, and Sam's like, fuck you.

779

: 00:34:10

You are gonna tell me.

780

: 00:34:12

I know how to keep an oath motherfucker.

781

: 00:34:15

LAura: Yeah.

782

: 00:34:16

And this is when he tells

Lee, you're not the first.

783

: 00:34:19

I know who Kara is and I know that

she's doing stuff and I still am

784

: 00:34:23

married to her and love her, so

785

: 00:34:26

fuck off.

786

: 00:34:28

Yikes.

787

: 00:34:28

Uh, Lee tries to put his soldier

hat back on real fast and say,

788

: 00:34:33

we've got to focus on this war.

789

: 00:34:35

Xhafer: Yep.

790

: 00:34:36

over on the Bay Star, Deanna says

she's close to knowing the final

791

: 00:34:40

five as the hybrid and hanging

out with Baltar in the hybrid.

792

: 00:34:44

And the hybrid just stares at Baltar

while chanting The chosen one.

793

: 00:34:48

The chosen one.

794

: 00:34:49

The chosen one,

795

: 00:34:51

LAura: she doesn't even, she says that

she's close to seeing the final five.

796

: 00:34:54

And maybe even God, like she's going off

the deep, she's going into bin territory.

797

: 00:35:01

Like, There can be only one crazy Deanna.

798

: 00:35:05

You can, you will not be

able to thrown Leo open here.

799

: 00:35:08

Like,

800

: 00:35:09

Xhafer: Yeah.

801

: 00:35:10

LAura: only the chosen one can

go, but Deanna is not really

802

: 00:35:14

listening to the one part.

803

: 00:35:16

And here's what I am afraid of.

804

: 00:35:18

Here's, here's a prediction.

805

: 00:35:19

I don't know if this will be true,

but I told Erin last night, I was

806

: 00:35:21

like, it'll be really fun if, like,

they go and they go to enter this

807

: 00:35:28

temple and it's very literal, like.

808

: 00:35:31

And for somehow, I don't know how the

13th Tribe would've accomplished this

809

: 00:35:36

'cause there were no cys, but there's

like some sort of anti syon device or

810

: 00:35:41

trap that triggers, and so Gaas goes

through, but Deanna's like melted or

811

: 00:35:46

destroyed or blown up or whatever.

812

: 00:35:49

And it's like, that would

be pretty funny for me.

813

: 00:35:57

Also, it would kind of fuel some shit

with Gais, so that would be not great.

814

: 00:36:01

But

815

: 00:36:01

Xhafer: Uh, Speaking of not great,

Caprica walks in and Deanna tells her

816

: 00:36:06

that this throuple is now a couple.

817

: 00:36:09

LAura: Yeah, that's new.

818

: 00:36:12

And De Deanna's just dictating it.

819

: 00:36:14

Gaia is like, no, no, no.

820

: 00:36:15

We're we all have something special

here and Deanna's like, no, no, no.

821

: 00:36:18

It's over.

822

: 00:36:20

Xhafer: We have something special.

823

: 00:36:22

Bye.

824

: 00:36:23

LAura: Yeah.

825

: 00:36:25

And.

826

: 00:36:26

Guy is such a spineless bitch

827

: 00:36:30

for somebody who said he loved Caprica

and seemed like he meant it, he sure

828

: 00:36:35

just sort of floats along with Deanna.

829

: 00:36:38

Xhafer: sure.

830

: 00:36:39

Does wonder how this is gonna

come back to bite him in the ass?

831

: 00:36:44

Oh, you can.

832

: 00:36:45

You can be sure It does.

833

: 00:36:47

LAura: I really want Caprica to like,

I would like her to destroy him.

834

: 00:36:51

That would be fun.

835

: 00:36:52

I mean,

836

: 00:36:53

Xhafer: Just, you wait.

837

: 00:36:56

You're gonna love what happens at the

end of next episode with these two.

838

: 00:37:02

Well, I mean, really it's the start

of the, probably the one after,

839

: 00:37:06

but I think that the P, you'll see

where the chess pieces are on the

840

: 00:37:11

board at the end of next episode.

841

: 00:37:13

And you're gonna go, oh, that's

gonna be interesting, isn't it?

842

: 00:37:18

LAura: Yeah.

843

: 00:37:20

I.

844

: 00:37:21

Know that sixes are like a jealous model

is kind of what we've seen, I guess.

845

: 00:37:27

I don't know.

846

: 00:37:27

It's all really been like six PT and

Caprica really, that I'm basing that on.

847

: 00:37:32

'cause Gina, we didn't really

see like anything outta that.

848

: 00:37:36

But it seems like sixes are a jealous

model and uh, this isn't gonna go well

849

: 00:37:41

and he should know better, but I mean,

what does he do on this Bay Star when

850

: 00:37:47

Deanna is like calling all the shots?

851

: 00:37:51

I don't know.

852

: 00:37:52

Maybe I'm expecting a little too much

from the only human stuck in a ship

853

: 00:37:56

full of silences with their own agenda,

854

: 00:37:59

Xhafer: All these robots with their plans,

855

: 00:38:01

LAura: but it's so easy to hate him.

856

: 00:38:03

So that's

857

: 00:38:04

where I'm

858

: 00:38:04

Xhafer: is,

859

: 00:38:06

we,

860

: 00:38:06

LAura: It's not personal.

861

: 00:38:07

It's religious though.

862

: 00:38:08

Yeah, I.

863

: 00:38:09

Xhafer: Gianna and Baltar are

gonna go down to the surface here.

864

: 00:38:12

To go check out the temple.

865

: 00:38:14

We see Dee actually running the

military op Starbuck is flying recon

866

: 00:38:20

and gets missile by a centurion.

867

: 00:38:22

LAura: Pretty quick.

868

: 00:38:24

Yeah.

869

: 00:38:25

And they're using like visual cues.

870

: 00:38:28

Starbucks gets back to the area where

she can at least fire off her headlights

871

: 00:38:35

at D and then DC's the missile anyway.

872

: 00:38:38

But yeah, now they know that there

are silences in the ground and they

873

: 00:38:42

know about where they're coming from.

874

: 00:38:45

Xhafer: Yep.

875

: 00:38:46

Rosalyn is in Papa Don's office

and tries to talk about pithy, but

876

: 00:38:50

Bill's all like, Hey, so, Athena

came and talked to me about Hara.

877

: 00:38:58

Huh.

878

: 00:38:59

Crazy.

879

: 00:39:00

That would be crazy if that were true.

880

: 00:39:02

Right.

881

: 00:39:04

right.

882

: 00:39:06

Right.

883

: 00:39:08

LAura: I, I gotta say, I was a

little afraid that this was gonna

884

: 00:39:13

go in a different direction.

885

: 00:39:14

I'm actually kind of pleased

that Athena immediately went

886

: 00:39:17

to talk to Adama about this.

887

: 00:39:20

'cause I was afraid there was

gonna be more like duplicity,

888

: 00:39:22

and I didn't want that.

889

: 00:39:25

Um,

890

: 00:39:26

Xhafer: Well, I mean, he was

always kept out of it too.

891

: 00:39:28

So

892

: 00:39:29

LAura: yeah.

893

: 00:39:29

Yeah.

894

: 00:39:29

And I, and I'm pleased to see

him immediately approach Rosaly

895

: 00:39:32

and be like, truth, please.

896

: 00:39:35

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

897

: 00:39:36

And she does, she gives him

truth and he just walks out.

898

: 00:39:40

He walks

899

: 00:39:41

out immediately.

900

: 00:39:43

LAura: she gives him the truth, and then

she tries to like, explain her reasoning.

901

: 00:39:49

Like she gives him all the facts

of here's how it all went down.

902

: 00:39:52

And then she tries to

like, but here's why.

903

: 00:39:54

And he's not having it.

904

: 00:39:56

Xhafer: Yeah.

905

: 00:39:57

LAura: Just not having it.

906

: 00:39:58

Xhafer: He like turns around, walks

to Hilo and Athena's bunk room.

907

: 00:40:04

LAura: Yeah,

908

: 00:40:05

Xhafer: They've got their own,

they've got their own place.

909

: 00:40:09

LAura: Yeah.

910

: 00:40:10

Xhafer: They don't, they don't have

like a bunk with like six of them, like

911

: 00:40:12

the other pilots maybe that's like the

XO hit, like the, the second officers

912

: 00:40:17

quarters or something at this point.

913

: 00:40:18

Captain Kelly's, he's still

around though, so I don't know.

914

: 00:40:21

LAura: It'd be fun if they

just redecorated her cell.

915

: 00:40:24

Xhafer: Yeah, I mean, you know,

you need the space anyways.

916

: 00:40:28

Uh, he tells them who honestly handle

it as well as they fucking could.

917

: 00:40:34

Like they're not sup they're very

angry, understandably so, but they're

918

: 00:40:39

not actively taking it out on Adama.

919

: 00:40:42

There's like a little bit

of shade thrown his way, but

920

: 00:40:45

they're clearly not blaming him.

921

: 00:40:47

They're just super angry and fine.

922

: 00:40:51

That's, that's fair.

923

: 00:40:53

LAura: Yep, He does remind them that,

you know, I know you're hurting, but.

924

: 00:40:58

You will be able to see your child again.

925

: 00:41:01

Like you eventually, well, maybe

not that, but you will be glad

926

: 00:41:06

eventually that she's alive.

927

: 00:41:08

Like even beyond this hurt and

this betrayal and all that.

928

: 00:41:10

Xhafer: Yeah.

929

: 00:41:12

He, yeah.

930

: 00:41:12

Like, 'cause he was all like, you know

what it's like to lose a child of like

931

: 00:41:17

fucking everyone who could do this to us.

932

: 00:41:19

And he's all like, look, you're

gonna get to see yours again.

933

: 00:41:22

LAura: Yeah.

934

: 00:41:23

Like, yeah, mine has really gone

935

: 00:41:26

Xhafer: Yeah.

936

: 00:41:26

They super dead.

937

: 00:41:28

LAura: yeah.

938

: 00:41:29

Um, but Athena rightly needs to see

939

: 00:41:33

her

940

: 00:41:33

Xhafer: Yeah.

941

: 00:41:35

Lee tells Anders that Kara got shot down.

942

: 00:41:38

He wants to go rescue her

while this is going on.

943

: 00:41:42

The Cylons send six heavy Raiders down.

944

: 00:41:46

And in response, Adama

starts arming the nukes to

945

: 00:41:50

LAura: Yes.

946

: 00:41:52

Everybody's calling Bluffs around

here because we've got Adam dama

947

: 00:41:56

preparing the nukes, firey missiles

and Anders ready to disobey Lee.

948

: 00:42:05

Xhafer: Yeah, he's gonna go rescue Kara.

949

: 00:42:08

Um, Lee has Anders at

gunpoint to stop him.

950

: 00:42:12

Adama is authorizing the nuclear strikes,

like authorizing the release of nuclear

951

: 00:42:16

weapons and going through all this stuff.

952

: 00:42:18

There's a lot of fucking steps to

use nukes here that you would not

953

: 00:42:22

want to do in a, like, like it makes

for drama and good TV right now.

954

: 00:42:28

But can you imagine in a like active

combat situation, having to go through

955

: 00:42:33

all of the shit to use the nukes,

956

: 00:42:35

LAura: I wonder if

957

: 00:42:36

Xhafer: like the bass

stars are firing at you.

958

: 00:42:38

LAura: I, I wonder if you don't

have to do it in act of combat.

959

: 00:42:41

I wonder if it's part of like,

because we're about to fire on.

960

: 00:42:45

Our own people were taking

961

: 00:42:48

Xhafer: Well,

962

: 00:42:48

it's like it, I mean, some of it is like

saying things right and like procedural,

963

: 00:42:55

like, you know, matters of record.

964

: 00:42:57

But some of it is like,

Hey Ty, enter your code.

965

: 00:43:00

I'm entering mine.

966

: 00:43:01

Hey, grab the keys.

967

: 00:43:02

Hey, do this.

968

: 00:43:03

Hey, do these physical things that are

a pain in the ass if you're trying to do

969

: 00:43:08

it while you're about to get blown up.

970

: 00:43:10

LAura: Yeah.

971

: 00:43:12

Seems it's, yeah, it's tough.

972

: 00:43:15

'cause I'm like, you do want good

internal controls on your nukes,

973

: 00:43:18

Xhafer: Look, I just listened to

the five episodes of Behind the

974

: 00:43:21

Bastards about how close we are to

nuclear Armageddon at all moments.

975

: 00:43:25

So this level of redundancy in making

sure that it doesn't happen seems like a

976

: 00:43:30

good idea to me.

977

: 00:43:31

LAura: Yeah.

978

: 00:43:32

Xhafer: But also the situations

are admittedly very different.

979

: 00:43:36

LAura: Yeah, yeah.

980

: 00:43:38

I want lots of dual control on.

981

: 00:43:41

The nuclear armaments

all around the world.

982

: 00:43:43

Like, let's make it like, you know,

committees can never agree on anything.

983

: 00:43:48

Maybe it should just be a whole

committee that has to put in

984

: 00:43:51

Xhafer: Yeah.

985

: 00:43:52

LAura: coats.

986

: 00:43:53

Keep us, keep us from

annihilation, please.

987

: 00:43:55

That would be great.

988

: 00:43:56

Okay.

989

: 00:43:57

Thanks.

990

: 00:43:57

Bye.

991

: 00:43:57

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

992

: 00:43:59

all this is going down as we get

hit with the two be continued.

993

: 00:44:02

LAura: Oh, and te will, Tiara keeps

staring at the eye in and out, like,

994

: 00:44:05

or I, I say it's the eye.

995

: 00:44:08

I don't know if it's actually the eye,

but we keep staring at the same thing

996

: 00:44:13

Xhafer: Yeah.

997

: 00:44:13

LAura: a lot.

998

: 00:44:16

And it

999

: 00:44:17

sure looks, eye shaped.

: 1000

00:44:18,853 --> 00:44:21,133

Xhafer: Did you recognize it, by the way?

: 1001

00:44:22,209 --> 00:44:23,679

LAura: I don't guess I did.

: 1002

00:44:24,159 --> 00:44:24,519

Xhafer: Okay.

: 1003

00:44:24,999 --> 00:44:25,509

That's cool.

: 1004

00:44:25,509 --> 00:44:26,559

They'll tell you next episode.

: 1005

00:44:27,339 --> 00:44:31,269

LAura: I mean, it kind of looks like, I

would think a storm, like a big hurricane.

: 1006

00:44:32,424 --> 00:44:32,784

Like

: 1007

00:44:32,889 --> 00:44:37,299

Xhafer: no, no, no, no, This is, this is

something we have seen in the show before.

: 1008

00:44:37,974 --> 00:44:38,634

LAura: Oh,

: 1009

00:44:39,215 --> 00:44:41,975

Xhafer: They, they, they will

call it out explicitly next

: 1010

00:44:42,230 --> 00:44:42,770

LAura: okay.

: 1011

00:44:42,830 --> 00:44:44,030

I guess I'm gonna need that.

: 1012

00:44:44,525 --> 00:44:44,915

Xhafer: Yeah.

: 1013

00:44:45,095 --> 00:44:48,575

I mean, it's, it's the kind of

thing that on your first watch

: 1014

00:44:48,575 --> 00:44:50,645

through, you would not notice.

: 1015

00:44:50,915 --> 00:44:56,735

It's, it's designed to have been ambient

in the background previously so that

: 1016

00:44:56,735 --> 00:45:00,245

you can fucking ignore it and then

they can bring it up later to be all

: 1017

00:45:00,245 --> 00:45:01,850

like, Hey, look at how smart we are.

: 1018

00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:06,505

LAura: is it the manhole covers

on Caprica from when we went

: 1019

00:45:06,505 --> 00:45:08,300

down in the sewers all the time.

: 1020

00:45:12,740 --> 00:45:13,400

That would be good.

: 1021

00:45:14,105 --> 00:45:14,765

Xhafer: That would be good.

: 1022

00:45:15,989 --> 00:45:17,719

So anyways that's the episode.

: 1023

00:45:18,245 --> 00:45:18,725

Uh.

: 1024

00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:19,880

Yeah.

: 1025

00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:21,120

How do you feel about this one?

: 1026

00:45:22,335 --> 00:45:23,295

LAura: Oh, I forgot.

: 1027

00:45:23,295 --> 00:45:24,165

I have to rate it.

: 1028

00:45:24,435 --> 00:45:26,625

I kind of just am like

living in the moment.

: 1029

00:45:26,895 --> 00:45:30,015

It's kinda, you know,

I'm just kind of here.

: 1030

00:45:30,345 --> 00:45:35,602

I guess I can't quite give it like,

it's not a 12 colonies for me.

: 1031

00:45:36,202 --> 00:45:41,272

I am getting pretty annoyed that I don't

understand and they have not made clear

: 1032

00:45:41,272 --> 00:45:43,552

to me why we should even care about Earth.

: 1033

00:45:44,422 --> 00:45:44,992

Um,

: 1034

00:45:45,427 --> 00:45:47,497

Xhafer: I mean, we know why

the humans care about Earth.

: 1035

00:45:47,692 --> 00:45:48,427

LAura: oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

: 1036

00:45:49,132 --> 00:45:56,249

But why, why, the Cys are so like,

eh and I'm tired of Deanna and Gais.

: 1037

00:45:56,249 --> 00:45:56,909

That's gross.

: 1038

00:45:57,359 --> 00:46:01,919

Don't like Gais Cullen Mommy,

Rosalyn by her first name.

: 1039

00:46:02,249 --> 00:46:04,049

He does not have those privileges.

: 1040

00:46:04,409 --> 00:46:04,859

Sorry.

: 1041

00:46:05,523 --> 00:46:06,903

yeah, also he looks rough.

: 1042

00:46:06,903 --> 00:46:07,803

I meant to say that.

: 1043

00:46:08,103 --> 00:46:11,553

He's definitely like James

CA's doing a nice, like.

: 1044

00:46:12,513 --> 00:46:15,243

Degradation of his character.

: 1045

00:46:16,001 --> 00:46:18,804

But, oh, I'll give it like a 10.

: 1046

00:46:19,074 --> 00:46:22,189

It gets to be in the upper

quadrant, but like not the best.

: 1047

00:46:22,608 --> 00:46:23,088

What about you?

: 1048

00:46:23,428 --> 00:46:23,818

Xhafer: Eight.

: 1049

00:46:24,088 --> 00:46:25,198

Yeah, it's good.

: 1050

00:46:25,678 --> 00:46:25,968

LAura: yeah,

: 1051

00:46:27,721 --> 00:46:28,741

Xhafer: no, it is a good episode.

: 1052

00:46:28,801 --> 00:46:31,861

Um, it, it really needs part two,

: 1053

00:46:32,152 --> 00:46:32,442

LAura: Yeah.

: 1054

00:46:32,672 --> 00:46:33,842

Xhafer: as most of these do.

: 1055

00:46:33,962 --> 00:46:37,052

But you know, we're, we're

only a week away from that.

: 1056

00:46:37,052 --> 00:46:38,822

I mean, you're about 20

minutes away from that.

: 1057

00:46:39,252 --> 00:46:41,652

But listener, we're a week away from that.

: 1058

00:46:42,213 --> 00:46:44,643

probably, actually in recording,

probably like two weeks away from

: 1059

00:46:44,643 --> 00:46:46,053

that, to be perfectly honest.

: 1060

00:46:46,423 --> 00:46:46,873

We'll see.

: 1061

00:46:47,038 --> 00:46:47,908

LAura: Holidays.

: 1062

00:46:47,913 --> 00:46:48,113

Yeah.

: 1063

00:46:48,771 --> 00:46:50,436

Xhafer: Uh, But we will get there soon.

: 1064

00:46:50,436 --> 00:46:51,786

It's season three, episode 12.

: 1065

00:46:52,461 --> 00:46:53,331

Rapture,

: 1066

00:46:53,550 --> 00:46:55,500

LAura: I sure hope Deanna gets raptured

: 1067

00:46:56,149 --> 00:47:01,309

Xhafer: I had to edit this episode

descriptions so fucking much.

: 1068

00:47:01,579 --> 00:47:02,899

This one I had to edit a bit.

: 1069

00:47:03,319 --> 00:47:07,639

Next episode was like three

paragraphs for some reason, and

: 1070

00:47:07,639 --> 00:47:09,379

I cut it to like two sentences.

: 1071

00:47:09,589 --> 00:47:10,894

LAura: Yeah, that's too much.

: 1072

00:47:10,894 --> 00:47:11,374

Anyway.

: 1073

00:47:11,404 --> 00:47:11,584

Three

: 1074

00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:12,049

Xhafer: yeah.

: 1075

00:47:12,229 --> 00:47:12,759

LAura: Come on,

: 1076

00:47:13,253 --> 00:47:16,463

Xhafer: Deanna squares off with

Adama over the temple of five.

: 1077

00:47:17,213 --> 00:47:21,203

Athena asks Hilo for help

in her plan to rescue her.

: 1078

00:47:22,593 --> 00:47:26,763

Apollo asks a lot of D while

the centurion's attack.

: 1079

00:47:27,251 --> 00:47:27,471

LAura: huh?

: 1080

00:47:28,226 --> 00:47:28,766

Oh boy.

: 1081

00:47:28,921 --> 00:47:32,551

I hope we don't have a

heroic sacrifice from Dee.

: 1082

00:47:32,551 --> 00:47:32,911

That would be.

: 1083

00:47:33,866 --> 00:47:34,676

Not ideal.

: 1084

00:47:36,499 --> 00:47:37,759

Xhafer: We'll find out next episode.

: 1085

00:47:38,149 --> 00:47:38,509

LAura: Yeah.

: 1086

00:47:38,839 --> 00:47:40,879

Or if d has to go rescue Starbucks.

: 1087

00:47:40,939 --> 00:47:41,449

Oh.

: 1088

00:47:42,229 --> 00:47:43,909

Xhafer: Wouldn't that

be the fucking worst?

: 1089

00:47:44,269 --> 00:47:48,049

Could you imagine Lee asking

Dee to go save Starbuck?

: 1090

00:47:48,949 --> 00:47:52,279

LAura: Like the whole time she'd be so

fucking, she'd be like kicking the rocks.

: 1091

00:47:53,059 --> 00:47:54,889

She goes past like, this sucks.

: 1092

00:47:54,979 --> 00:47:55,729

I hate this.

: 1093

00:47:58,384 --> 00:47:59,584

Well, I look forward to it.

: 1094

00:47:59,734 --> 00:48:02,254

I'm gonna go rip that

bandaid off real quick.

: 1095

00:48:03,709 --> 00:48:03,999

Xhafer: Good.

: 1096

00:48:04,459 --> 00:48:08,569

I look forward to seeing text

messages from you in the morning.

: 1097

00:48:08,599 --> 00:48:11,929

'cause I will be fucking

sleeping in about 15 minutes.

: 1098

00:48:12,139 --> 00:48:13,009

LAura: You deserve it.

: 1099

00:48:13,309 --> 00:48:14,419

Xhafer: Oh, I fucking do.

: 1100

00:48:14,419 --> 00:48:15,499

I'm so tired.

: 1101

00:48:15,799 --> 00:48:16,009

LAura: Uhhuh.

: 1102

00:48:16,369 --> 00:48:17,719

Xhafer: I'm so tired.

: 1103

00:48:18,469 --> 00:48:24,469

Also, the fact that we started this

recording and I was drinking a chamomile

: 1104

00:48:24,469 --> 00:48:26,059

tea with a little bit of whiskey in it.

: 1105

00:48:26,174 --> 00:48:26,464

LAura: Yeah.

: 1106

00:48:27,169 --> 00:48:27,619

Xhafer: Yeah.

: 1107

00:48:28,249 --> 00:48:28,999

LAura: You're real chill

: 1108

00:48:29,314 --> 00:48:29,534

Xhafer: um.

: 1109

00:48:29,569 --> 00:48:30,349

LAura: It's, it's good.

: 1110

00:48:30,544 --> 00:48:31,294

Xhafer: I'm good.

: 1111

00:48:31,294 --> 00:48:33,454

It wasn't a CBD cha meal at least.

: 1112

00:48:34,144 --> 00:48:38,944

I don't know that I do a, I have done

the CBD chamomile with whiskey before.

: 1113

00:48:39,694 --> 00:48:41,164

That's a real chill vibe.

: 1114

00:48:41,254 --> 00:48:44,164

That's a, that's a, that's

a relaxing place to be.

: 1115

00:48:44,854 --> 00:48:50,254

Um, just like a relaxing

place to be is with your buds.

: 1116

00:48:50,374 --> 00:48:57,211

And you can do that orally or a URL

: 1117

00:48:57,646 --> 00:49:02,986

LAura: Orally is how I try to like

distinguish orally and orally.

: 1118

00:49:03,391 --> 00:49:03,961

Xhafer: Orally.

: 1119

00:49:03,961 --> 00:49:04,381

Yeah.

: 1120

00:49:04,516 --> 00:49:06,856

LAura: don't know if that's

actually accurate or not.

: 1121

00:49:06,856 --> 00:49:10,216

We could probably get the misra to

break down the pronunciations for

: 1122

00:49:10,216 --> 00:49:12,466

us, but Yeah, that's what I try.

: 1123

00:49:13,411 --> 00:49:16,026

Xhafer: but uh, but listening

to Jeremy Siegel, it was the

: 1124

00:49:16,026 --> 00:49:17,316

segue I was going for there,

: 1125

00:49:17,356 --> 00:49:17,706

LAura: Uhhuh.

: 1126

00:49:18,376 --> 00:49:20,356

Xhafer: German C4 two.bandcamp.com.

: 1127

00:49:21,526 --> 00:49:26,086

Go get him a fucking listen, go buy

him a fucking Christmas present by

: 1128

00:49:26,116 --> 00:49:31,006

buying some of his music on Band

camp because he actually sees money

: 1129

00:49:31,006 --> 00:49:34,336

from that, hypothetically, I assume.

: 1130

00:49:34,966 --> 00:49:35,626

I hope.

: 1131

00:49:35,626 --> 00:49:36,196

Fuck

: 1132

00:49:36,436 --> 00:49:37,876

LAura: I think band camp's one of the

: 1133

00:49:37,876 --> 00:49:38,566

better ones

: 1134

00:49:38,746 --> 00:49:39,556

Xhafer: one of the good ones.

: 1135

00:49:39,556 --> 00:49:39,691

I think

: 1136

00:49:40,276 --> 00:49:40,696

LAura: from

: 1137

00:49:40,831 --> 00:49:44,026

Xhafer: if if it's not, I really hope

you said something before now, because

: 1138

00:49:44,026 --> 00:49:48,106

I wouldn't have said it every fucking

episode to this podcast, otherwise,

: 1139

00:49:48,646 --> 00:49:49,096

LAura: right.

: 1140

00:49:49,546 --> 00:49:50,711

Xhafer: 200 fucking times.

: 1141

00:49:51,616 --> 00:49:55,151

LAura: We'll have to, we'll have to set

up a little Venmo for Jeremy if they

: 1142

00:49:55,151 --> 00:49:57,616

all just, if they're all just the worst.

: 1143

00:49:57,856 --> 00:50:00,556

Xhafer: They're all just the

worst, has no way of making money.

: 1144

00:50:00,741 --> 00:50:01,161

LAura: Mm-hmm.

: 1145

00:50:01,456 --> 00:50:02,446

Xhafer: what a nightmare

: 1146

00:50:02,446 --> 00:50:03,436

LAura: buy 'em a coffee.

: 1147

00:50:03,646 --> 00:50:04,396

Xhafer: cap it took you.

: 1148

00:50:05,296 --> 00:50:06,406

Anyways, thanks Jeremy.

: 1149

00:50:06,586 --> 00:50:07,246

Appreciate you.

: 1150

00:50:07,846 --> 00:50:08,386

LAura: indeed.

: 1151

00:50:08,536 --> 00:50:11,716

And thanks to angry duck time machine

on Instagram for the podcast artwork.

: 1152

00:50:12,279 --> 00:50:14,889

Xhafer: Aaron, thanks so much

for editing this podcast.

: 1153

00:50:14,889 --> 00:50:16,994

Appreciate you and all the work

you do to make us sound coherent.

: 1154

00:50:17,579 --> 00:50:21,629

LAura: Especially late at night when we've

been drinking our chamomile whiskey tea.

: 1155

00:50:22,334 --> 00:50:22,694

Xhafer: Right.

: 1156

00:50:24,659 --> 00:50:25,049

LAura: Yeah.

: 1157

00:50:25,049 --> 00:50:25,859

And thanks listener.

: 1158

00:50:25,859 --> 00:50:29,669

If you wanna hang out with us, probably

not late at night 'cause we both got

: 1159

00:50:29,849 --> 00:50:32,849

places to be unfortunately in the morning.

: 1160

00:50:33,339 --> 00:50:38,249

You can join the Discord and uh,

we'll hang out with you and if we

: 1161

00:50:38,249 --> 00:50:41,519

don't see your message until the

morning, we'll respond when we do.

: 1162

00:50:41,875 --> 00:50:42,415

Xhafer: All right.

: 1163

00:50:42,415 --> 00:50:43,375

We'll see you next week.

: 1164

00:50:43,375 --> 00:50:43,855

Internet.

: 1165

00:50:44,116 --> 00:50:44,336

LAura: Bye.

: 1166

00:50:44,706 --> 00:50:44,916

Xhafer: Bye.

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