Episode #50 Season 24: Shaun Boyce & Justin Yeo
In this episode of the Atlanta Tennis Podcast, hosts Shaun Boyce and Justin Yeo discuss that coaches should be able to practice what they preach. 80% of the world are visual learners so the ability to demonstrate is an essential part of coaching.
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Speaker:Today, we are talking to Justin Yeo,
Speaker:World Renowned, tennis pro Australian in Puerto Rico,
Speaker:and it is a good day to be an Australian
Speaker:because you got Nick Kyrgios as a commentator.
Speaker:How interesting is that?
Speaker:This is 10 minutes of tennis.
Speaker:Justin Yeo, good morning, how you doing?
Speaker:Thanks.
Speaker:Is sign-to-word wake, is swearing?
Speaker:(laughing)
Speaker:Only to some.
Speaker:Only to some reason.
Speaker:Depends on how old you are.
Speaker:(laughing)
Speaker:All right, today's conversation is about,
Speaker:can you practice what you preach?
Speaker:The question Justin is, should all tennis coaches
Speaker:be able to display what they preach?
Speaker:Now, you're saying, does everybody need to do this
Speaker:in every situation, or is this just, hey, look,
Speaker:I can show you how to hit a forehand,
Speaker:and you're gonna have to do a bunch of pushups to get fit,
Speaker:even though I'm a little overweight myself.
Speaker:You know where these questions come from, right?
Speaker:How much does the coach need to be able
Speaker:to actually perform?
Speaker:- Well, I can go right up the top of the list for you.
Speaker:80% of the world of visual learning, right?
Speaker:Some say 75, some say 70/30,
Speaker:but if you look at the dial,
Speaker:dial is more towards visual learnings
Speaker:than analytical learnings, okay?
Speaker:So, what is that tell you?
Speaker:You gotta be able to demo
Speaker:what you want you play and do.
Speaker:So, that's gonna include physicality,
Speaker:that's gonna include techniques,
Speaker:that's gonna include lots of things
Speaker:that you need to be able to replicate what you want them to do,
Speaker:because otherwise, you know, you have to use video,
Speaker:they just show them, you know?
Speaker:So, there is a major benefit to be able to demo
Speaker:in front of a player.
Speaker:And so, you know, serving the same thing.
Speaker:So, anyway, that's right up the back.
Speaker:If you're in high performance,
Speaker:pretty hard to make a junior or a certain athlete
Speaker:to be athletic and disciplined if you can do, you know?
Speaker:So, you know, look at some of the coaches,
Speaker:I'm probably throwing myself under the bus here,
Speaker:but I don't know how many laps Uncle Tony could do.
Speaker:I don't know how much you could actually rally the ball either.
Speaker:But man, was he very disciplined in other ways.
Speaker:So, that's probably a good example,
Speaker:probably again, throw myself under the bus.
Speaker:You know, how many balls of Nick Politarik
Speaker:could rally baseline to baseline
Speaker:with most of his athletes, right?
Speaker:But he was extremely disciplined and would work
Speaker:in a way that need be done.
Speaker:So, there are two examples where, you know,
Speaker:maybe they don't live and preach what they say, you know?
Speaker:But on the other hand, most of us that are in the trenches
Speaker:really do need to be able to preach what you said.
Speaker:And I see that a lot more in the high performance.
Speaker:So, if we dial it back a little bit to the weekend player
Speaker:or the league out to USDA players,
Speaker:we're gonna look at somebody that says,
Speaker:okay, my coach is probably better than me.
Speaker:99% of the time, whatever that number is,
Speaker:your coach is better than you.
Speaker:But if you're looking up and you're seeing the coach
Speaker:that's just standing there and his belly's hanging out
Speaker:and he's feeding balls, I remember being young,
Speaker:kind of looking at that going,
Speaker:is that a good example to set?
Speaker:And when you're young, it's often easier as a coach
Speaker:to say, I'm young and fit and I can do all the things
Speaker:that the kids can do.
Speaker:And that was something I always said about myself.
Speaker:I will never ask you to do something.
Speaker:I'm unwilling to do myself.
Speaker:Now, as I age, that's a different thing.
Speaker:How many pushups are my shoulders really gonna,
Speaker:am I gonna jump down and do 100 pushups with everybody?
Speaker:Probably not.
Speaker:So there's a line there, right?
Speaker:- Yeah, well, the line is also then,
Speaker:you've got to knock them away with your knowledge
Speaker:and experience.
Speaker:And so that's where the next step I would say
Speaker:with printing is that if you actually say to someone,
Speaker:make sure you're always upgrading the skills,
Speaker:make sure you're always developing with the sport.
Speaker:I still, I mean, to this day,
Speaker:I still seen so many coaches teaching
Speaker:what was in the '80s and the '90s, when they were,
Speaker:you know, I was like, yes,
Speaker:there's things that just aren't that way anymore.
Speaker:If we're doing that too for juniors,
Speaker:we're not helping them at all,
Speaker:because the shoulder development of internal rotation
Speaker:between the sole joint and the forearm
Speaker:is totally different back then and at least to now.
Speaker:And so,
Speaker:- Wait a minute, and then hang on.
Speaker:The shoulder joint is different.
Speaker:- Yeah.
Speaker:- Have humans just evolved in the last 30 years
Speaker:in some way?
Speaker:- I don't understand.
Speaker:- No, the way we developing the ball
Speaker:and the ball platform tabletop stroke
Speaker:is not the same stroke anymore.
Speaker:- So the technique has changed
Speaker:and therefore how we manage it has to change.
Speaker:- Correct, correct.
Speaker:And if you don't develop that correct technique,
Speaker:they end up with the same shoulder
Speaker:and they,
Speaker:it, not in the vision,
Speaker:but they're not available,
Speaker:it's not allowed because the shoulder joint's not developed
Speaker:directly to generate what they generate now.
Speaker:So, you know, again,
Speaker:we don't have to think high performance,
Speaker:what I'm thinking is that if you can talk in amateur
Speaker:and well, if you are limited with what you can show,
Speaker:then you need to back it with knowledge and experience.
Speaker:And I still see a lot of coaches not developing enough
Speaker:but they need to develop more.
Speaker:And that's the only thing I could say
Speaker:about practicing what you're pretty
Speaker:to saying back in what you're preaching.
Speaker:- It makes me think of one of the rules
Speaker:where it's always tell the truth
Speaker:or that you just don't lie, right?
Speaker:So in this case, I'm gonna say, okay,
Speaker:I'm not necessarily gonna tell you
Speaker:that one of my coaches is not a tennis player.
Speaker:I'm gonna take it into personally for me
Speaker:with the tennis for children and the little kids.
Speaker:I don't need you to be a tennis player
Speaker:but what I need you to not do
Speaker:is I need you to not show them that you don't do it,
Speaker:that you can't do it.
Speaker:I need you to say, okay, here, here, here,
Speaker:this is my swing, right?
Speaker:This is what I want you to do.
Speaker:But that doesn't necessarily mean
Speaker:that you need to bounce a ball and hit it.
Speaker:And I'll take that to the typical coach that's aging
Speaker:that says, oh, I can still hit with these guys
Speaker:and you end up going out there and kind of losing
Speaker:to some of your players or you can't do what you used
Speaker:to be able to do, so you lose some credibility.
Speaker:Is there a way to kind of dial back what you show,
Speaker:what you display if you can't do it anymore?
Speaker:- Yeah, I mean, again, this is just,
Speaker:I mean, Nick Volansari, I've been getting an example, right?
Speaker:I mean, but the guy could say,
Speaker:you didn't the guy could watch you,
Speaker:the guy could give good, really good direction.
Speaker:Otherwise, he wouldn't have built one built.
Speaker:So yeah, their coaches out there,
Speaker:and that's what I've always said sometimes in a junior league.
Speaker:It's great to have someone that's just really enthusiastic
Speaker:that loves the game.
Speaker:- Love's good, too.
Speaker:- If you pass that down, that's the number one thing
Speaker:for children is passing down the passion
Speaker:and living it and talking about it,
Speaker:like versus just teaching it.
Speaker:That to me is the biggest thing about coaching
Speaker:in junior years.
Speaker:Most juniors would drop out and spoil us
Speaker:'cause they just didn't get that passion.
Speaker:Living it that wide, you know?
Speaker:This is the great commercial where they talk about, you know,
Speaker:team sports, and then one of the biggest things
Speaker:in team sports is what the coach has hand down,
Speaker:like what the kid has felt during the session
Speaker:that coaches are highlighted or accelerated
Speaker:or given them that experience.
Speaker:So, you know, coach, I'm definitely not saying
Speaker:that every coach has to be in shape.
Speaker:I'm not saying that at all.
Speaker:What I am saying is that,
Speaker:to practice what you preach is to actually develop yourself,
Speaker:keep learning the game, keep waking up each day
Speaker:of a mind and say what you got into it for.
Speaker:You got into it for passion, what you get in it for money.
Speaker:You got to get in it for money.
Speaker:You got to get good into it just like your students.
Speaker:You know, so I guess that's sort of what we're talking about
Speaker:with practice what you preach.
Speaker:- So now if I wrap it up in a way that I say,
Speaker:okay, that last comment says a lot
Speaker:that not everybody's gonna be the fittest tennis pro
Speaker:'cause not everybody has the time,
Speaker:whatever the reasons are, there are always reasons, right?
Speaker:But can you be the best pro you can be?
Speaker:And if you're gonna be that more intellectual pro
Speaker:or more of a team developmental
Speaker:or an academy developmental pro like a bulletaerie,
Speaker:that type, you don't all have to be like Martugulu
Speaker:who looks like he can still hit with Holger Luna.
Speaker:- Yep.
Speaker:- And if you're a player listening,
Speaker:you wanna preach it, like go into a team
Speaker:and work for the team, play for the team,
Speaker:play in the order that they need you
Speaker:to listen to your coaching captain.
Speaker:You know, like some players don't know how to do that.
Speaker:So, you know, there's a lot of things
Speaker:that's a player too that you have to practice what's preach.
Speaker:You know, if you talk to big game,
Speaker:then go out there and show it with the racket.
Speaker:So show it with the map.
Speaker:- Like that a lot.
Speaker:Justin, we're gonna have to have another one on that one.
Speaker:- Player. - Practice what you preach.
Speaker:I like that a lot.
Speaker:Justin, yo, this has been 10 minutes of tennis.
Speaker:We'll see you next time.
Speaker:Thanks so much.
Speaker:- Thanks a lot.
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