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10 Minutes of Tennis: Coaches Should Be Able To Practice What They Preach
Episode 50 β€’ 16th July 2024 β€’ Atlanta Tennis Podcast β€’ Shaun Boyce and Bobby Schindler
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Episode #50 Season 24: Shaun Boyce & Justin Yeo

In this episode of the Atlanta Tennis Podcast, hosts Shaun Boyce and Justin Yeo discuss that coaches should be able to practice what they preach. 80% of the world are visual learners so the ability to demonstrate is an essential part of coaching.

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with 10 minutes of tennis.

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Today, we are talking to Justin Yeo,

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World Renowned, tennis pro Australian in Puerto Rico,

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and it is a good day to be an Australian

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because you got Nick Kyrgios as a commentator.

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How interesting is that?

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This is 10 minutes of tennis.

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Justin Yeo, good morning, how you doing?

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Thanks.

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Is sign-to-word wake, is swearing?

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(laughing)

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Only to some.

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Only to some reason.

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Depends on how old you are.

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(laughing)

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All right, today's conversation is about,

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can you practice what you preach?

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The question Justin is, should all tennis coaches

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be able to display what they preach?

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Now, you're saying, does everybody need to do this

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in every situation, or is this just, hey, look,

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I can show you how to hit a forehand,

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and you're gonna have to do a bunch of pushups to get fit,

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even though I'm a little overweight myself.

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You know where these questions come from, right?

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How much does the coach need to be able

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to actually perform?

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- Well, I can go right up the top of the list for you.

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80% of the world of visual learning, right?

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Some say 75, some say 70/30,

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but if you look at the dial,

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dial is more towards visual learnings

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than analytical learnings, okay?

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So, what is that tell you?

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You gotta be able to demo

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what you want you play and do.

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So, that's gonna include physicality,

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that's gonna include techniques,

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that's gonna include lots of things

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that you need to be able to replicate what you want them to do,

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because otherwise, you know, you have to use video,

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they just show them, you know?

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So, there is a major benefit to be able to demo

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in front of a player.

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And so, you know, serving the same thing.

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So, anyway, that's right up the back.

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If you're in high performance,

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pretty hard to make a junior or a certain athlete

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to be athletic and disciplined if you can do, you know?

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So, you know, look at some of the coaches,

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I'm probably throwing myself under the bus here,

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but I don't know how many laps Uncle Tony could do.

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I don't know how much you could actually rally the ball either.

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But man, was he very disciplined in other ways.

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So, that's probably a good example,

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probably again, throw myself under the bus.

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You know, how many balls of Nick Politarik

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could rally baseline to baseline

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with most of his athletes, right?

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But he was extremely disciplined and would work

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in a way that need be done.

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So, there are two examples where, you know,

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maybe they don't live and preach what they say, you know?

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But on the other hand, most of us that are in the trenches

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really do need to be able to preach what you said.

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And I see that a lot more in the high performance.

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So, if we dial it back a little bit to the weekend player

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or the league out to USDA players,

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we're gonna look at somebody that says,

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okay, my coach is probably better than me.

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99% of the time, whatever that number is,

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your coach is better than you.

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But if you're looking up and you're seeing the coach

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that's just standing there and his belly's hanging out

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and he's feeding balls, I remember being young,

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kind of looking at that going,

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is that a good example to set?

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And when you're young, it's often easier as a coach

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to say, I'm young and fit and I can do all the things

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that the kids can do.

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And that was something I always said about myself.

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I will never ask you to do something.

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I'm unwilling to do myself.

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Now, as I age, that's a different thing.

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How many pushups are my shoulders really gonna,

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am I gonna jump down and do 100 pushups with everybody?

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Probably not.

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So there's a line there, right?

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- Yeah, well, the line is also then,

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you've got to knock them away with your knowledge

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and experience.

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And so that's where the next step I would say

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with printing is that if you actually say to someone,

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make sure you're always upgrading the skills,

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make sure you're always developing with the sport.

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I still, I mean, to this day,

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I still seen so many coaches teaching

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what was in the '80s and the '90s, when they were,

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you know, I was like, yes,

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there's things that just aren't that way anymore.

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If we're doing that too for juniors,

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we're not helping them at all,

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because the shoulder development of internal rotation

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between the sole joint and the forearm

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is totally different back then and at least to now.

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And so,

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- Wait a minute, and then hang on.

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The shoulder joint is different.

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- Yeah.

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- Have humans just evolved in the last 30 years

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in some way?

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- I don't understand.

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- No, the way we developing the ball

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and the ball platform tabletop stroke

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is not the same stroke anymore.

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- So the technique has changed

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and therefore how we manage it has to change.

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- Correct, correct.

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And if you don't develop that correct technique,

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they end up with the same shoulder

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and they,

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it, not in the vision,

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but they're not available,

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it's not allowed because the shoulder joint's not developed

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directly to generate what they generate now.

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So, you know, again,

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we don't have to think high performance,

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what I'm thinking is that if you can talk in amateur

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and well, if you are limited with what you can show,

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then you need to back it with knowledge and experience.

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And I still see a lot of coaches not developing enough

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but they need to develop more.

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And that's the only thing I could say

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about practicing what you're pretty

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to saying back in what you're preaching.

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- It makes me think of one of the rules

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where it's always tell the truth

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or that you just don't lie, right?

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So in this case, I'm gonna say, okay,

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I'm not necessarily gonna tell you

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that one of my coaches is not a tennis player.

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I'm gonna take it into personally for me

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with the tennis for children and the little kids.

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I don't need you to be a tennis player

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but what I need you to not do

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is I need you to not show them that you don't do it,

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that you can't do it.

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I need you to say, okay, here, here, here,

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this is my swing, right?

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This is what I want you to do.

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But that doesn't necessarily mean

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that you need to bounce a ball and hit it.

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And I'll take that to the typical coach that's aging

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that says, oh, I can still hit with these guys

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and you end up going out there and kind of losing

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to some of your players or you can't do what you used

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to be able to do, so you lose some credibility.

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Is there a way to kind of dial back what you show,

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what you display if you can't do it anymore?

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- Yeah, I mean, again, this is just,

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I mean, Nick Volansari, I've been getting an example, right?

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I mean, but the guy could say,

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you didn't the guy could watch you,

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the guy could give good, really good direction.

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Otherwise, he wouldn't have built one built.

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So yeah, their coaches out there,

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and that's what I've always said sometimes in a junior league.

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It's great to have someone that's just really enthusiastic

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that loves the game.

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- Love's good, too.

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- If you pass that down, that's the number one thing

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for children is passing down the passion

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and living it and talking about it,

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like versus just teaching it.

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That to me is the biggest thing about coaching

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in junior years.

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Most juniors would drop out and spoil us

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'cause they just didn't get that passion.

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Living it that wide, you know?

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This is the great commercial where they talk about, you know,

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team sports, and then one of the biggest things

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in team sports is what the coach has hand down,

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like what the kid has felt during the session

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that coaches are highlighted or accelerated

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or given them that experience.

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So, you know, coach, I'm definitely not saying

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that every coach has to be in shape.

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I'm not saying that at all.

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What I am saying is that,

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to practice what you preach is to actually develop yourself,

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keep learning the game, keep waking up each day

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of a mind and say what you got into it for.

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You got into it for passion, what you get in it for money.

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You got to get in it for money.

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You got to get good into it just like your students.

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You know, so I guess that's sort of what we're talking about

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with practice what you preach.

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- So now if I wrap it up in a way that I say,

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okay, that last comment says a lot

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that not everybody's gonna be the fittest tennis pro

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'cause not everybody has the time,

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whatever the reasons are, there are always reasons, right?

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But can you be the best pro you can be?

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And if you're gonna be that more intellectual pro

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or more of a team developmental

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or an academy developmental pro like a bulletaerie,

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that type, you don't all have to be like Martugulu

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who looks like he can still hit with Holger Luna.

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- Yep.

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- And if you're a player listening,

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you wanna preach it, like go into a team

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and work for the team, play for the team,

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play in the order that they need you

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to listen to your coaching captain.

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You know, like some players don't know how to do that.

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So, you know, there's a lot of things

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that's a player too that you have to practice what's preach.

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You know, if you talk to big game,

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then go out there and show it with the racket.

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So show it with the map.

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- Like that a lot.

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Justin, we're gonna have to have another one on that one.

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- Player. - Practice what you preach.

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I like that a lot.

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Justin, yo, this has been 10 minutes of tennis.

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We'll see you next time.

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- Thanks a lot.

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