Episode #50 Season 24: Shaun Boyce & Justin Yeo

In this episode of the Atlanta Tennis Podcast, hosts Shaun Boyce and Justin Yeo discuss that coaches should be able to practice what they preach. 80% of the world are visual learners so the ability to demonstrate is an essential part of coaching.

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Today, we are talking to Justin Yeo,

World Renowned, tennis pro Australian in Puerto Rico,

and it is a good day to be an Australian

because you got Nick Kyrgios as a commentator.

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This is 10 minutes of tennis.

Justin Yeo, good morning, how you doing?

Thanks.

Is sign-to-word wake, is swearing?

(laughing)

Only to some.

Only to some reason.

Depends on how old you are.

(laughing)

All right, today's conversation is about,

can you practice what you preach?

The question Justin is, should all tennis coaches

be able to display what they preach?

Now, you're saying, does everybody need to do this

in every situation, or is this just, hey, look,

I can show you how to hit a forehand,

and you're gonna have to do a bunch of pushups to get fit,

even though I'm a little overweight myself.

You know where these questions come from, right?

How much does the coach need to be able

to actually perform?

- Well, I can go right up the top of the list for you.

80% of the world of visual learning, right?

Some say 75, some say 70/30,

but if you look at the dial,

dial is more towards visual learnings

than analytical learnings, okay?

So, what is that tell you?

You gotta be able to demo

what you want you play and do.

So, that's gonna include physicality,

that's gonna include techniques,

that's gonna include lots of things

that you need to be able to replicate what you want them to do,

because otherwise, you know, you have to use video,

they just show them, you know?

So, there is a major benefit to be able to demo

in front of a player.

And so, you know, serving the same thing.

So, anyway, that's right up the back.

If you're in high performance,

pretty hard to make a junior or a certain athlete

to be athletic and disciplined if you can do, you know?

So, you know, look at some of the coaches,

I'm probably throwing myself under the bus here,

but I don't know how many laps Uncle Tony could do.

I don't know how much you could actually rally the ball either.

But man, was he very disciplined in other ways.

So, that's probably a good example,

probably again, throw myself under the bus.

You know, how many balls of Nick Politarik

could rally baseline to baseline

with most of his athletes, right?

But he was extremely disciplined and would work

in a way that need be done.

So, there are two examples where, you know,

maybe they don't live and preach what they say, you know?

But on the other hand, most of us that are in the trenches

really do need to be able to preach what you said.

And I see that a lot more in the high performance.

So, if we dial it back a little bit to the weekend player

or the league out to USDA players,

we're gonna look at somebody that says,

okay, my coach is probably better than me.

99% of the time, whatever that number is,

your coach is better than you.

But if you're looking up and you're seeing the coach

that's just standing there and his belly's hanging out

and he's feeding balls, I remember being young,

kind of looking at that going,

is that a good example to set?

And when you're young, it's often easier as a coach

to say, I'm young and fit and I can do all the things

that the kids can do.

And that was something I always said about myself.

I will never ask you to do something.

I'm unwilling to do myself.

Now, as I age, that's a different thing.

How many pushups are my shoulders really gonna,

am I gonna jump down and do 100 pushups with everybody?

Probably not.

So there's a line there, right?

- Yeah, well, the line is also then,

you've got to knock them away with your knowledge

and experience.

And so that's where the next step I would say

with printing is that if you actually say to someone,

make sure you're always upgrading the skills,

make sure you're always developing with the sport.

I still, I mean, to this day,

I still seen so many coaches teaching

what was in the '80s and the '90s, when they were,

you know, I was like, yes,

there's things that just aren't that way anymore.

If we're doing that too for juniors,

we're not helping them at all,

because the shoulder development of internal rotation

between the sole joint and the forearm

is totally different back then and at least to now.

And so,

- Wait a minute, and then hang on.

The shoulder joint is different.

- Yeah.

- Have humans just evolved in the last 30 years

in some way?

- I don't understand.

- No, the way we developing the ball

and the ball platform tabletop stroke

is not the same stroke anymore.

- So the technique has changed

and therefore how we manage it has to change.

- Correct, correct.

And if you don't develop that correct technique,

they end up with the same shoulder

and they,

it, not in the vision,

but they're not available,

it's not allowed because the shoulder joint's not developed

directly to generate what they generate now.

So, you know, again,

we don't have to think high performance,

what I'm thinking is that if you can talk in amateur

and well, if you are limited with what you can show,

then you need to back it with knowledge and experience.

And I still see a lot of coaches not developing enough

but they need to develop more.

And that's the only thing I could say

about practicing what you're pretty

to saying back in what you're preaching.

- It makes me think of one of the rules

where it's always tell the truth

or that you just don't lie, right?

So in this case, I'm gonna say, okay,

I'm not necessarily gonna tell you

that one of my coaches is not a tennis player.

I'm gonna take it into personally for me

with the tennis for children and the little kids.

I don't need you to be a tennis player

but what I need you to not do

is I need you to not show them that you don't do it,

that you can't do it.

I need you to say, okay, here, here, here,

this is my swing, right?

This is what I want you to do.

But that doesn't necessarily mean

that you need to bounce a ball and hit it.

And I'll take that to the typical coach that's aging

that says, oh, I can still hit with these guys

and you end up going out there and kind of losing

to some of your players or you can't do what you used

to be able to do, so you lose some credibility.

Is there a way to kind of dial back what you show,

what you display if you can't do it anymore?

- Yeah, I mean, again, this is just,

I mean, Nick Volansari, I've been getting an example, right?

I mean, but the guy could say,

you didn't the guy could watch you,

the guy could give good, really good direction.

Otherwise, he wouldn't have built one built.

So yeah, their coaches out there,

and that's what I've always said sometimes in a junior league.

It's great to have someone that's just really enthusiastic

that loves the game.

- Love's good, too.

- If you pass that down, that's the number one thing

for children is passing down the passion

and living it and talking about it,

like versus just teaching it.

That to me is the biggest thing about coaching

in junior years.

Most juniors would drop out and spoil us

'cause they just didn't get that passion.

Living it that wide, you know?

This is the great commercial where they talk about, you know,

team sports, and then one of the biggest things

in team sports is what the coach has hand down,

like what the kid has felt during the session

that coaches are highlighted or accelerated

or given them that experience.

So, you know, coach, I'm definitely not saying

that every coach has to be in shape.

I'm not saying that at all.

What I am saying is that,

to practice what you preach is to actually develop yourself,

keep learning the game, keep waking up each day

of a mind and say what you got into it for.

You got into it for passion, what you get in it for money.

You got to get in it for money.

You got to get good into it just like your students.

You know, so I guess that's sort of what we're talking about

with practice what you preach.

- So now if I wrap it up in a way that I say,

okay, that last comment says a lot

that not everybody's gonna be the fittest tennis pro

'cause not everybody has the time,

whatever the reasons are, there are always reasons, right?

But can you be the best pro you can be?

And if you're gonna be that more intellectual pro

or more of a team developmental

or an academy developmental pro like a bulletaerie,

that type, you don't all have to be like Martugulu

who looks like he can still hit with Holger Luna.

- Yep.

- And if you're a player listening,

you wanna preach it, like go into a team

and work for the team, play for the team,

play in the order that they need you

to listen to your coaching captain.

You know, like some players don't know how to do that.

So, you know, there's a lot of things

that's a player too that you have to practice what's preach.

You know, if you talk to big game,

then go out there and show it with the racket.

So show it with the map.

- Like that a lot.

Justin, we're gonna have to have another one on that one.

- Player. - Practice what you preach.

I like that a lot.

Justin, yo, this has been 10 minutes of tennis.

We'll see you next time.

Thanks so much.

- Thanks a lot.

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