Episode Overview:

Join Cinthia and Michelle as they continue their engaging conversation with animal communicators Yvette Buigues and Melissa "Mo" Scout Chaidez. This episode dives into the fascinating world of animal communication, exploring the inner workings of their practices and how they connect with both pets and their owners.

Key Topics Discussed:

• The unique experiences of first-time clients seeking animal communication.
• How animal communicators approach clients and ease them into the process.
• The impact of trauma on animal behavior and how practitioners can help.
• Funny and heartwarming stories about communicating with animals, including lost pets.
• Insights into what different animals like to talk about (dogs, cats, horses, and more).
• The emotional connections between pets and their owners, and how these affect communication.
• Fun anecdotes about animal personalities and their preferences.

Guest Bios:

• Yvette Buigues: A cranial sacral healer and Reiki practitioner for animals, as well as an artist with a passion for animal communication.
• Melissa "Mo" Scout Chaidez: An animal communicator and healer, helping humans through their connections with animals.

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Hi, we're Cinthia Varkevisser and Michelle Walters, co-hosts of Mind Power Meets Mystic. Our weekly show is here to expand your mind to what's possible, to uplift your spirits, to move forward with confidence and joy, and to create a space for your collaboration with the invisible. Welcome to Mind Power Meets Mystic.

Hey, hey, hey everyone. This is Mind Power Meets Mystic. Welcome, welcome with Michelle Walters, our beloved mind power, and me, Cinthia Varkevisser, the mystic. Today we're here for part two with these amazing animal communicators. We have Yvette Buigues, who is a cranial sacral healer with animals as well as a Reiki healer and an amazing artist. And then we have Melissa Mo Scout Chaidez, she's all those and a bag of chips, and she's an animal communicator, as well as a healer of humans through animal communication. So thank you so much for doing part two. It was a lot of fun talking about your perception of being an animal communicator and how the animals respond. Let's talk about the inner workings of the work that you do. How's that sound?

Perfect! Alright, so let's talk about when people find you. Do they know what they have? They practice people? Well, let me back up. I find that people who go to animal communicators have not done readings before, and so they come in, and you actually get the virgins. Yeah, right, you get the reading virgins. So I'd love to hear what that's like, and how do you put everyone at ease, and what are their FAQs around these newbies? Good call.

You know, I think with me, I usually go in with cranial sacral, and that's usually when an animal has been injured or there's a behavioral shift, any trauma. And I tell people any trauma that the animal experiences, getting neutered to being spayed, to being forgotten at the grocery store. All of that is trauma for them when an animal changes their behavior overnight. So then I come in, and so I can ease them into the communication aspect that way. So people don't generally call me first to communicate. So I think Scout might know better how they approach her because, yeah.

I mean, mine usually come by word of mouth, and often it's because there's something that they're trying to figure out, maybe behavioral, maybe they heard about this from somebody else. It's always something like that. And then they want to know, how do we do this? Do we do this remotely? Do I have to come to you? I'm in Minnesota, you're in California, and, you know, it's done remotely. I generally ask for a picture. I've recently learned it's not necessary and still able to connect to the pet. And, yeah, I usually put them at ease by the first thing I generally do when I talk to an animal is ask them about themselves. What are the things they like the most? What do they enjoy doing? What do they like to eat? You know, just, and then for me, I meditate and talk to them, and as the animal approaches me, they tell me about their personality. So then in my reading, I give that information first to the client. So like, are we talking to Fluffy? Does that sound like Fluffy? Yes. Okay, great. I thought so, yes. And then we go from there. So that is, I think, very important to get a sign-on from the client. Like, oh, yep, that's my pet.

Yeah, because I have communicated with the wrong pet before. I have two, oh my god, like in a family, yeah, like four dogs, or just a cat that wanted to mess with me because, you know, cats are cats. Like I was sharing with Melissa the other day, someone who called me to help her find her lost cat, her cat, and I make this one short. No, no, but her cat's name was One-Eyed Robbie, and he was an orange tabby cat missing his left eye. Let's say I don't remember what I, but he was lost, and she called me, and I was like, well, right? Well, let's see what I can do. And I think we had like four or five sessions together, and I kept telling the woman, no, I still get three blocks west of your house. There's a house that looks like this, and he's there. He says he's not lost; he's on an adventure, but he's not lost. He'll come home goodnight. It was out every single time. So finally, she calls me; she sends me a text, and she says, I found the house that you were describing, and look who I found. And she sends me a picture of One-Eyed Robbie. And I'm like, Oh, I'm so glad you found him. She's like, Oh no, look again. This cat was orange. He was missing his right eye. Oh, but his name—because she knocked on the door to ask the people—his name was One-Eyed Jack. That’s crazy. So I had been taught. And of course, he wasn't lost; he was on an adventure. Now, unfortunately, One-Eyed Robbie was never found, and we did call in—I called in a mentor of mine to help, and she had gotten that he had fallen victim to coyotes. But I thought I had just started out at the time, and it was a huge validation for me because I was talking to somebody; somebody chimed in and had a great sense of humor.

I love it. How can you not? A funny question: have any of the animals ever told you something kind of secret or private that the pet parent might not have wanted you to know?

Oh my God, that's so scary. No, yeah, me too. No, no, I have had a dog, you know, like, like, Well, my dad has a secret girlfriend, and I really hate her. No, okay, here, everybody's like, I don't want you to talk to my animal because I don't know what they might tell you. It's not what you think. They're here to rat you out. They're not. They're not, so good to know.

I have had a dog tell me that she wanted to be rehomed. Oh, she was. I could see that very, she was a very—she came from a puppy mill. She was very frightened of men, and she was living with a man and a woman, and they had her for two years when they called me, and he was still petrified of this man. And she asked me to be rehomed, and I was so—speaking of crying, yeah, crying. And so didn't know what to do that I actually called in a mentor of mine, and I, on the DL, I did get permission from the dog's owner, but I paid my mentor to lead the dog just to make sure that I wasn't wrong, right? Because that's a big thing to ask. Like, oh, your dog didn't want to live with you anymore. She got the same thing I got without knowing anything. All she got was the dog's picture. I didn't give her names, nothing. She got the dog's photo, and she got what I got, and then I had to sit down and have a hard conversation, very hard.

Yeah, that's a good question, Michelle. And I will tell you these two—you should feel the energy in my office right now. They are so like bummers right now, I could tell that this really affected them.

It's terrible, yeah. Well, yeah, yeah. Oh. I wasn't trying to, like, sink the day or anything. I was just, like—they keyed into each other energetically, and I'm like, Oh my God, they're both about to cry. And, you know, pets—people don't think anything at all about doing things in front of their pets. You know that you would never do in front of other people.

So I have a question. So I do hypnotherapy, right? And I do group hypnotherapy online from time to time. I know Scout has come at least once to my sessions, and one of the things that when I remember, I tell people to talk to their animals and put their animals in another room. Because it's my observation that when people get hypnotized, the animals come and sit on top of them, and some of them, like, I tell people this: like, if your cat is in the room, it is very likely that your cat will decide that now is the time to come and sit on top of you. And it's kind of my theory that animals like it when people are meditating or in a state of hypnosis, and that it draws them to them. But I'm wondering if you have any, if you've ever talked to an animal about that? What are your thoughts about that? Because it happens—not every time, but it happens a lot.

Well, I mean, cats are pretty much energy vampires. They love the stuff.

They're not vampires—coming as a cat, right, right, right, just—

Yeah, a balance becomes—yeah. Um, I agree completely.

Dogs, I know.

I some dogs, yeah, but, um, like, there was no way I couldn't work or have a session without my cat being—she would just come in and be like, I'm here, and she'd get involved. I kind of think sometimes she was helping too.

I'm sure, for sure. No, I've had healer friends. I had one that was a body worker, what you used to do, and she swore her cat would come and heal people. And sometimes, and it happened to an ex of mine; she was working on her, and the cat came in, jumped up on the massage table and laid on my partner and, you know, on her chest. And she was allergic to cats, then she's not anymore, but—and my then partner was like, Oh my God, it was the most amazing experience I've ever had. And it wasn't about the massage; it was about the cat's energy and how she was feeling that.

Yeah, yeah. So I think that they can be helpers and workers. I think they help to ground us. I think the most wonderful thing is when an animal's in the room, I feel like people are more authentic. You're grounded. I think you feel better. It's like part of nature. It's part of a—I don't know it. When an animal is in and with us, I feel like I get a better sense of a person as well. So kind of went off topic, but yeah, I do think that they can help us work with our own energy. And I do think they are attracted by your very quiet, meditative energy.

Yeah, I'm sure when I had my bodywork practice, I had a wolf Malamute; Small was her name, and she was 85 pounds of not-from-this-world animal. I've not met a dog since like her, and I've got some pretty great dogs in my life. But, um, she would come in, and I'd be working, and I have to say how lucky I am that my whole bodywork career, my clients, the people that I would attract, were fine with all of my things, like, Oh yeah, I'm bringing my dog to the office this day. And they'd be like, Oh, great. She went on a bone. They didn't have a problem with it, but she would stand on the table, and she would rest her head, like, maybe on a knee or on—and she would know, and she just rest her head. And I'd look at her, and I'd be like, I know that that knee's going to need attention today.

Wow. And she was, she had a better track record than I did.

She, yeah, now they know—that's amazing, you know, and horses know. Like, I will—if I'm, like, super pissed off or, you know, whatever—I can be, um, I will cancel an appointment with a horse because I don't want to, and I—it's never happened, but I know in my head that if I—because I've been around horses enough to know that if you show up and you are crying or you're upset, the horse is not—they're just not going to be as receptive, or they're going to take that on.

I was told that the reason that equines are so interesting is that they are much more connected to their horse than any other being, and so the rider or the owner and the horse, it's like they have the primary relationship, hopefully, and that, you know, other partners be damned. And so it's—I find that interesting because, one, horses scare me just by size, not by anything else. I think they're absolutely beautiful, but—and by size—and I could never figure out why horse owners had a hard time communicating, and I think it's because their communication with the horse is vibrational and not anything else. And is that—do you—is that track with your experience with—and that's what they're called, right? Equines, people?

Yeah, equestrians, horse owners, yeah, I—I don't know that, probably because I'm not in tune with the person. When I'm there, I'm there for the horse. I do know that I had a client, you know, a horse was out in Moraga, and they didn't have a stable. It was pasture, and it was like 20 horses in the pasture. I think what horses do is, because they are herd animals, it's one big entity almost when you walk because they're all tuned into everyone. So of course, the horse is tuned into their rider. Hopefully, the rider's tuned into their horse. I would walk out with this pasture, and I would work on my client. Out of 20 horses, I had one client there, although I should have billed everybody, yeah, because when I would finally open my eyes, you know, every horse, yes, in the pasture, there'd be a circle around me, heads half dropped, yeah. They were all taking in the energy.

Yeah. They love it, yes, and yeah, from my perspective, I would say would be from owning—being having horses and kind of similar for me, to surfing, riding horses. It's that same energy; energy moves through me, moves through them. And like a wave, same thing. Like, you're in the moment, in the movement of the wave. And it's like we're one. That's how it feels to me, and yeah, and I move my energy through them and back. It's, yeah, totally.

That makes sense to me. Yeah, that completely makes sense to me. And what do you—I mean, I have never been a horse owner, and I rarely get to see horses, much less touch them and spend time with them. Um, are the owners—like I said, because they're so in touch with their horses—what are you usually working on? Is it like a digestion, diet thing? Is it a behavior thing? Or what does it tend to be?

Everything? Everything. For me, yeah. But for, for—yeah, it is everything. But a lot of the horses that I have seen have head injuries because I go with the cranial sacral stuff. So I've seen head injuries, lameness, spinal, colic, you know, because mixing the cranial sacral in with—I can't help it. If the horse is taking energy, they're taking Reiki, and so that helps move a lot of things, and they're really receptive to that. Um, so that's why somebody would call me, and I did work on an ex. They were afraid to let me work on her because she was such a pill, and she was mean. And the minute I saw her, I was like, Oh, honey, because I could see that she had had a head injury, and her eyes—her eyes were just one hot, yeah. I worked on that animal for 20 minutes, and she became my best friend, yes, and that's the thing, yeah, is, is so many behavioral problems can actually be physical in the body, right? Which I'm sure is what you must encounter, and it will just completely change their behavior. Once you fix that misalignment, that animal will be completely different.

Absolutely. And she was, and people—I remember the guys who worked at the stable would call her King said 15 because that was her stall number. And they would look at me, and they go, I don't know what you're doing, but Lakin says she's such a sweet girl now. And I'd be like, Alright, yeah, yeah.

I want to play a game. I want to play a game. And the game I want to play is like lightning round. And so I want to give each of you an animal, and then you tell me what, if you've ever talked to that animal before, what they liked, what that kind of animal likes to talk about, okay?

Okay, okay, so Scout. What do cats like to talk about?

Hmm, gosh, there's no right or wrong here. What's anything a cat might talk about?

The most recent was food, and she came across as a sassy, fat—

They better get up. They better give me my food. That's their job. They know it. I don't care if it's four in the morning. Get up. Feed me now.

Okay, okay, that's a good answer. Okay, uh, Yvette, you get horses.

Horses? Um, I—what would a horse be like? The most thing that I've gotten from horses, it's funny because food—because horses and food. Um, I'm sure food is common amongst, like, all of them, yeah. Um, I've had horses not like their names more than any other animals where they've asked them for name changes. Um, yeah, that—yeah. And I've had—it's kind of funny. I've had a couple of animals ask for—and then behaviors change because now they are responding to a name that they aligned with.

Oh my God, okay. Scout used to work on a farm, right? How about we go for either a pig or a goat?

Pig? Honestly, it's sleeping. We like make nests, and which you wouldn't think. Right? So about its bedding and the materials.

Want to talk about beds? Okay, Yvette, you get dogs.

Dogs. Love to talk about having fun.

Having fun. Dogs, yeah, all about it, all about having fun. And also, as I get a little love, yeah, they always are the most grateful loving animals. You can definitely kick your dog and know that they're going to love you at the end of the day; they almost always give, like, some big love message. I mean, often, right?

Yeah, yeah, I can almost—

Your next animal is birds.

Birds. Wow. Birds want to talk about—you gotta give that to Yvette too.

Yeah, I honestly have never communicated with a domestic bird, okay? But I have used birds to see, like, looking for an animal, but I've never, you know, yeah, like, like a missing animal, and like, I'm the bird in this—in the tree up there, and I can see, really.

That's pretty cool. Yeah, a couple of dogs that way. That's cool. Okay, Yvette, you get birds too.

Birds, um, I have worked with chickens and parrots and crows. Um, it's kind of funny. Food—all animals like food, yay, food. Um, with—I have had a parrot tell me that he wanted to remain number one, you know, so um, I don't know. I don't know. I haven't really hung out with parrots enough to know their little idiosyncrasies. But I've had chickens ask me to be let go, to die. Why? I have had chickens who—because, again, people call me in when there is, you know, someone who's going to drop some cash on it, a chicken who's egg-bound so that I can work cranial sacral, you know, but I have gotten it. I'm not a bound. I need to go, um, and then the wild birds—well, I talked to the crows a lot, um, in the neighborhood, and with them, they like—they like to play with me. It's—I can literally, and I've been practicing lately, is because, you know, wild animals, they have a lot of stuff to do. They don't have time for us. And I will—I’ll walk, and I have been starting to ask the birds, telling them that it touch me. Oh, and I have had a few crows now, in the last month, fly by and just tap me on the head as they fly by. It's happened before, but now that I'm asking for it, it happens a lot more.

Love taps. Yeah, that's awesome, yeah.

Okay, I'm done. I'm done with my lightning round, Cinthia. If I make animals that you want to know about, it's your turn.

Actually, I'm going to, I'm going to be really rude. Oh, and I'm going to take a freebie. I need a freebie on my cats. Okay? Because I've actually talked to both of you about my cat. His name's Gray Boy, yeah. So the thing is, is Gray Boy is—he's super, super sensitive. He's really, really territorial. Now with his sister, we have two—we have two, three cats. We have that I know of. We have known—we know cats, but we have three cats that are trying to get into our house. Oh, that are not them. And so we're, first of all, we're trying to figure out, why the hell are these other cats trying to come in our house? It's not like we're the most loving people in the whole wide world. I'm honest, right?

Yeah. And then the second is, I have no idea how to, like, calm my pets and go like, I've got your back. I can, you know, and try and figure out how we can give them their territory. Because then what happens is, then Gray Boy starts marking, and he's marking in a way that there's nothing that we can do, right? And then he terrorizes his sister, yes? And now we have to put her in the closet just so she can get rest. I mean, it's a dressing room, but it's a—it's a small room, so, yeah.

Are your cats—are they indoor/outdoor?

Yeah, they're both—

Okay, so that's, um, yeah, I don't know why cats from the outside would want to come here. Weird, right?

I think cats are just curious.

Cats are, yeah, they are cute. They just, you know, um—

Why does Gray Boy disappear for—

Yeah, he hasn't done that lately. Yeah, he's homebound, I know. But, um—

You know, you can, like, meditate in here with your cats. You could sit outside and tell the neighborhood cats you'd rather you not.

Oh, yeah, no, I forgot about that. Totally, yeah. We'd rather you not come. This is not your territory, my guy, you know, that kind of thing, um, and, um, I don’t get i—how old is Gray Boy?

And they're—they're brother and sister, and they are nine and a half years old.

Yeah, um, the first kind of hit, without getting too into it, is there's a territorial like, yeah, as cats get older sometimes. But I get that, um, do you guys have a lot of high spaces in your house for them to get up in?

No, for the girl, yes. The boy's not really interested. So the girl's a birder and the boy's a ratter, yeah.

So you, um—oh, so they do have separate—but she has a place to get away up high, not really, but we can—means a place to get up high and that, because now she's always in his territory if she can't get her.

Okay, yeah, he's for sure, yeah, and they fight.

Yeah, and they—yeah. Okay, thank you.

Okay, so I got a question, since we're doing little mini freebies, dog Scout talked to her Scout. Had a great conversation with my dog, Bitsy, and but Bitsy doesn't seem to like to go on a walk. Bitsy is about 10. She's teeny, tiny. She does run around the house. But is it a problem that I don't take her on a walk?

Because I don't think it is.

I don't think it is.

She's fine, yeah? Like, I'm the house dog, yeah?

Okay, fine. You know, I have, yeah, from my behavior studies with dogs. Like, I constantly remind people, your dog after the age of three may not want to go to the dog park anymore. Like, they grow up like, I don't want to go to Disneyland every day.

Yeah. And so some dogs are like, I don't want to go to the park anymore. Um, I like—be I ask people to regulate. Like, let's kind of self-regulate.

And some dogs after—as you say, after, they kind of become adults. They're more people dogs than dog dogs, like your dog, for instance.

Oh, my dog's a total people dog. My dog has no interest in spending any time with any other animals. So instead of walks, take her to the local pub.

Yeah, oh my god.

She'll love it. Go have a glass of wine with her. Go to the—yeah, it was like that lazy dog I have, I did. I did during COVID; I bought this baby sling, you know, that you could put your, like, little newborn in, and she fits in the baby sling. And I haven't taken her out in that for a while, but she loves being in the baby sling because then she's up high, she's pressed up to Mommy's chest, like, Heck, yeah. Life is pretty good.

Well, I think that about wraps us up. It has been so much fun talking to the two of you all about tumbles, and we are wrapping up Mind Power Meets Mystic with me, Michelle Walters and Cinthia Varkevisser, my podcasting pal. We have had this great opportunity to talk to Scout Chaidez and Yvette Buigues, our animal communicators. If you haven't entered our contest yet, please do! All you need to do is rate and review our show and fill out the little form. There's a link in the show notes, and somebody is going to win a free Mind Power Meets Mystic, the project with me and Cinthia. Half an hour of a reading with Cinthia, followed by a hypnosis session with me. That's kind of a spin-off of the reading. It's really fun. People love it, and it's a great prize. So that's going up in episode 111; you will need to enter before then.

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