There are two conversations in every business transition. The official one that happens in boardrooms, management meetings and tidy documents, and the real one that happens afterwards, over a drink with someone you trust.

In this introductory episode, Shane Williams sets up My Shout, a podcast about the hidden tensions, blind spots and human dynamics that emerge when businesses change hands. Over the next decade, thousands of Australian businesses will face succession, sale or scale decisions, and the clean version on paper rarely matches the messy reality.

This show is for owners, families, buyers, investors, operators and advisors who want to better understand what really happens beneath the surface of business transition.

Pull up a stool, grab your favourite drink and join the conversation.

My Shout: Succession, sale and scale, where the board meeting ends and the real conversation starts.