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Welcome to last time on.

This is the podcast for people who wanna watch all that prestige television.

But, uh, who's got time for all that?

I know I don't,

I'm Aire

and I am Ben

and we are in season five, and this is episode seven that

we've watched of Breaking Bad.

Mo we are moving like a freight train through, uh, through Breaking

Bad.

speaking, we've been rolling in that like six through eight range.

If we hit any one of those, I think if we hit seven or eight, there aren't

enough episodes left after this.

So we'll like have one and then we won't have to roll.

We'll just be at the finale.

Yep.

It's just auto, auto finale because we will be watching the finale.

We are not just gonna go and don't know how it ends.

We're starting three episodes into the next show.

We are crazy.

We are not monsters,

yeah.

So no, we're gonna watch the finale, then we're going to go back and watch

what is generally considered the most acclaimed episode of the show as

provided we didn't already watch it.

Yeah.

If we didn't already watch it, if we did, then the second most using either

personal recommendations from friends, feedback from our audience, imt B ratings,

we'll figure it out when we get there.

Um, and then we're going to do a series review episode where we read what actually

happened and go over that and we'll read that together for the first time.

And record it and see how right or wrong we were.

See what we missed, see what we didn't.

Finally

that our version was better.

Learn that Walt didn't have an addiction to making

Thermite in the actual show and used to solve all of his problems.

The,

I think that that would've been a better show.

well, we don't know.

It might have been the show

It might, we, as far as I'm concerned, that is the show.

You don't see a character for three episodes.

It's because they got therm.

truth, that's how we roll here on last time, on Thermite Everywhere,

which is gonna be really hard to explain when we go to 9 0 2 1 oh after this.

we don't know what we're doing after this yet.

No, we, we, we need to come up with some kind of system.

Yeah, we'll figure it out later.

I actually, I have a pitch.

Oh,

we made a preliminary list of shows, that I'm sure it was on a, it was on

a napkin or a piece of receipt paper, uh, at a, at a restaurant we were at,

uh, did we put that into a spreadsheet?

I can try and find it.

Okay.

Because I, I know if you leave you alone with a list for more than five

minutes, it ends up on a spreadsheet.

So

I was just assuming,

actually in in Fun facts, I recently found the initial pitch

document for this podcast before we had done Draft the Universe,

oh,

like the one I had written up back in like 2016 when I first

had this idea or whatever it was,

neat.

2015.

I don't, I forget.

Um, and it actually had a list of shows, some of which I've watched by now.

Oops.

A West Wing was on there, ruined that.

Dang it.

Dang it.

Your fair.

Cause I also haven't seen any West Wing,

so that would've been, that would've been, totally doable.

Yeah, regardless.

Uh, so I have that old list.

I should have that receipt paper somewhere on my desk.

I think it's under this pile of vet documents that I just needed.

yeah, it's around.

But my suggestion was whoever got the most points from our, predictions, they

get to pick the next show from the list.

That works for me.

I

Yeah.

It's, it's also better than my idea of, loser Gets, Rick flair chopped,

I was not a big fan of that one.

Woo.

All right, so to today's episode,

we've got season five, episode five, dead freight.

Once again, we are opening in media Desert.

That's a thing.

We've got this kid dirt biking around the desert.

He gets a spider in a glass jar

A

and it's, it's pretty clear, Werner Harza is back, but

playing with color this time.

Yep.

Now I had to ask how long into this sequence, cuz it's about

what, 92nd, two minute sequence.

Yeah.

How long before we actually see this kid's face?

Were you sure it was Jesse?

I was just like, who the fuck is this?

Why the fuck do I care?

More importantly, how the fuck did that kid see a tarantula

while dirt biking 15 feet away?

Cuz that's some bullshit.

That kid's got laser eyes.

the fuck was that glass jar?

He like pulls it out of his pocket.

Like he wasn't just riding a dirt bike with it up against like

No, that's not how this works.

I just, if anybody in this show is giving me dirt bike energy.

It's Jesse

like, I totally could picture a moment where like, Jesse gives off the vibes

of the guy where it's like you asked him to come over to your house to help you

move a, a bookcase to your cousins, and he shows up on a dirt bike and you're

like, what happened to your truck?

And he's like, what?

I didn't bring it.

He's like, it is like, I invited you to help me move

this because you have the truck.

Like he gives off the, I didn't read the social contract of me having a truck also.

I just bought a dirt bike.

I was fully expecting this kid to find a body.

I thought that's how this was gonna start.

Oh yeah.

but that's not what happens.

We just go to credits.

Now, A little bit of a, spoiler, but, did you, hear the

sound cues at the end of this scene?

No.

Is it exactly what I would expect knowing what happens?

Yes.

You, you hear, uh, train whistles in the background?

Ooh.

Yeah.

Good design team.

Good job.

Yeah.

I actually noticed it as we were watching it along, and I'm just

like, huh, wonder what this is about.

Wonder who this kid is.

Is this kid somebody important?

I was very confused.

So j I have to ask what happened her?

With the kid.

Yeah.

Who is he?

Gimme his backstory.

Oh God.

Um, I was not prepared for this at all.

Right here.

So, okay, well, this kid, um, this is, Reginald.

Phil Johnson?

Sure.

PHE Johnson Fourth.

he is a, uh, a genius.

He's a prodigy.

Uh, he's actually already got two college degrees, both of which are in chemistry.

Uh, he's got a master's, uh, in, uh, crystalline structures.

And he's actually a big competitor, uh, at this age.

He's making, he's cooking meth for Gus and, uh, Gus, who we know from

later in this episode is now in jail.

Or at the very least, if Gus is not in jail, Gus is detained or

otherwise removed from the scene.

I don't think so.

Oh,

Well,

I don't

we'll talk about it when we get there.

Yeah.

I think he's arrested.

I don't think he's dead, but he was cooking for Gus after

another fight with Walt.

he found his, uh, moral less genius, this 12 year old, 14 year old boy.

Whose, uh, cook name is uh, master Chef Jr.

yes, of course.

yeah.

So that's, that's who this kid is.

so he's a rival on the meth scene, at such a young age.

Teenage meth cook.

After theme, we've got your Boy Gomez.

Gomez.

Yeah.

I was so excited back from being the king of El Paso, canonical king,

Canonical

as you recall last time on, Texas, fulfilling its dreams, SEC succeeded

from the union and made Gomez it's king.

But Gomez is like, I am a, benevolent king.

I'm also going to go back to working for the dea.

Yep.

he's bringing Walt to see Hank at work,

Mm-hmm.

and they're talking about Sky.

He's talking about Skyler, like they're back together.

He says Skyler is in therapy, but their love is dead.

Yep.

And Walt asked for permission to come see his kids who

are staying with Hank and Marie,

Hank calls Walt a provider here.

Yeah.

So, um, I'm gonna go ahead and say last time on Hank is on their

heels, on the heels of Walt and Jesse.

Right now he's about to catch 'em and, uh, he's the new head

of this d e a office after making a heroic bust and arresting Gus.

See, that was my assumption as well.

Hank is now big, big shot, promoted because he took down Gus without

knowing Walt works for him.

Yes, a hundred percent.

Walt Walt was taken outta his equation.

but that line about calling Wal a provider, he kind of like

stumbles around it a little bit.

And I couldn't help but wonder if actually Hank who knows

what's going on at this point,

See

but the, the stuff right after leads me to believe that he doesn't.

yes.

But it's just that, that way that line came across, I don't know.

Well, my, my read on it from last time on the last episode, we

saw they own boden's, uh, car wash

now, and we saw Skyler was running it.

but if she's not, I actively doing the day-today.

I think it was more of a, you bought the gas station that your wife

was running, like, okay, you're going in and filling in for her.

But we know she actually runs the place you just bought it.

That checks

I was sad.

Hank points out that, Walt has a new watch, which means r i p calculator watch.

Yes.

I hope it wasn't therm, but we know it was

Hank goes to get coffee with Walt and then Walt quickly

attaches a device into the ethernet line going into the computer.

Yes.

just wanna say this is correct.

this is a type of device that could do the thing that it's doing.

It's intercepting a network connection to get on the secure network in the

office, which is going to be able to transmit from the bug over Bluetooth.

also they could use it to take over the computer.

so ethernet devices have a thing called power p oe power over ethernet.

So it can power itself without a battery by being plugged in through this line.

Yes.

then it also has, the ability to wake up a computer and

take over a computer, uh, over

turn it on at 2:00 AM

Yeah, exactly.

So this is, this is actually the correct thing from a, like, cursory knowledge

of how computers work and working in it.

conversely, he also places a bug behind the picture of Hank and Marie.

The bug not attached to anything.

So, uh, bugs like that are typically put into a place where you can have a battery.

something that size it is not going to last very long.

Maybe they only need it for the phone call for that day.

but that thing's gonna be dead in, you know, a couple of days.

Especially if it's, you know, something that he got his hands on.

Like, he's not talking to a contact at the cia, so the sort of stuff

he's going to get, like even on the Mike Black market, it's not gonna be

lasting more than a couple of days.

and this timeframe would be before NFC or wireless charging, so

Mm-hmm.

yeah.

All

So this might be something where he has to hopefully go in and

get it back, or replace the battery.

Mm-hmm.

One other thing I did notice here.

I'm glad my boy Gomez is okay.

Sad.

We uh, we lost the calculator.

Watch.

Did you hear who else we lost?

Who?

He mentions that Walt has a new car,

Oh yeah.

the Aztec

the Aztec is no more.

That totally got therm.

A hundred

Oh yeah.

I'm gonna mix two of our things.

Jesse spilled a bag of Thermite, destroyed the Aztec.

Now you might be saying, Ben, how could you keep Thermite in a bag?

I don't know.

They chemist street it.

We are able to grok from the conversation.

Skylar's really depressed.

She is not okay.

Things are bad.

I'm going to say last time on Skylar killed Ted.

Yeah.

You

Yes.

I think

Skylar killed Ted because he was like, I'm not actually going to use this

money to pay off my, my taxes also.

Now I know you, person who worked for me randomly came up with $660,000.

I'm gonna try and blackmail.

You and Skylar had to go.

You are like a double dumb ass one.

You didn't take this wonderful gift I gave you.

And two, you're going to try and hang it over my head.

Now when you don't pay your taxes, they're going to come find out.

You randomly got $600,000.

Start trying to find, track that money.

Now I'm in danger.

Now you in a trunk.

so I am thinking that, in our interim, last time on Skylar murdered Ted.

I'm hoping,

Skylar murdered Ted and Walt cleaned it up.

yes.

She, so she is, very,

indebted to him at this point.

yes.

She's indebted.

She is, not feeling good about it, but you know, she's just

kind of now resigned herself.

The way she talks to Walt, there's clearly no future where she

does not also go down for this shit.

And she also doesn't seem particularly perturbed about dying over it.

She's just worried about her kids.

Yeah.

I did also note, while they were talking, Walton, Hank, is like, come on, just,

you know, tell me what's going on.

And Walt does a wonderful job of playing him by like, actually, oh, opening up.

Uh, and Hank like, immediately gets like super uncomfortable.

and Hank is exactly the kind of guy who's just like, all

right, you, you're my friend.

I want to know like, what's going on with you?

And you start telling him stuff and he's like, I thought you, like,

if it is anything beyond man, I thought the Lakers were gonna win.

And I put 500 bucks on them and now I'm like mad that I lost it.

That is the level that Hank is able to operate on.

And if you go above that, it is uncomfortable city.

after this, we cut to Mike Walton, Jesse, who have captured Lydia.

we find Lydia works for a drug company.

At first I thought she might have been a DEA agent, but pretty clearly

Or an informant or something.

Yeah.

they are testing, the bug, with passing along some info to Hank in his office.

So Hank calls the Houston office, presumably where they are,

which is later confirmed by the

Yes.

and admit to hiding the trackers, which Lydia had noticed

and told our crew crew about.

Mike is hesitant that they can't trust her because she put a hit out on him.

Yeah.

Like at first she's just like, what's going?

Like, why are you trying to do this?

And it's like, okay, once we know you put a hit out on one of these guys, like.

Maybe they don't trust you.

Yeah.

this is a lot of traveling for Walt, uh, in between scenes here.

Yes.

Houston to Albuquerque it's not quick,

Oh,

you know, it's a 12 hour drive,

dang.

almost 13.

So when they say, oh, okay, we've got a six hour head

start, they weren't kidding.

Yeah.

Houston is like on the coast, east coast of Texas,

Oh,

the Gulf of Mexico.

And

is centered in New Mexico.

yeah.

this is a trek, this is a couple hour flight it looks like.

All right.

and I was just like, Walt is time traveling like, The, because we see him

back and forth between Houston Albuquerque a couple of times in this episode.

Yes.

Yes, we do.

They are not close.

What is going on?

I'm guessing he's got a plane.

You think he's got his own plane?

Ooh, he's probably got his own plane.

I was gonna say last time on, he developed transporter technology from Star Trek,

but your playing makes way more sense,

my thought is, they are taking care of, I believe the quote

is, the rest of Gus's operation.

Like all of Gus's guys are in prison and they're taking care of them.

so, uh, yes.

That's, that's very soon.

So

my thought is, I'm thinking, uh, Gus is Denzo as mentioned, taken down by

Hank, which got him promoted.

And so, Walt, Jesse and Mike being the two guys who make the product and the guy you

don't mess with, took over the operation.

And so like the plane that they had that they took to Mexico,

they've got access to that.

the Cadillac Escalades, they've got access to those.

So, I'm gonna say they're flying.

that makes sense.

so Lydia tries to convince them not to kill her.

she has information on a ocean of methymine, which is what they need right

now for the thing that they're doing.

Jesse Vouches for Walt to Mike here.

Walt's like gonna interrogate Lydia a bit, and Mike is all

like, let's just fucking kill her.

And Jesse's all like, no, let Walt do his stuff.

Mike clearly does not trust Walt.

Mike trusts Jesse.

I believe this proves Mike is working for Jesse after the adventure in Mexico.

When Gus goes down, I'll take my points.

where Mike is, saved by Jesse, at least he feels he owes him.

Mm-hmm.

I loved Mike in this scene.

First, he gives this great, great speech where it's just like, man, if you weren't,

in a show with, uh, Brian Cranston, you would've won all the Emmys here.

he has this great thing like, Hey, you do this wrong.

I shoot you in the face, you do this thing wrong.

I shoot you in the face.

Tell me what you're gonna do.

Tell me what you're gonna do if you don't do it, shoot me where in the face.

That's right.

and then later he's like, this isn't a gun.

It's a pistol.

It's different.

he gives huge, bones, don't rust by the mountain, goats energy,

but he's just like, I'm a goon.

I am a hired muscle.

I am a hitman.

I do my job.

I do it better than everyone else.

I'm a professional.

so we learn, Lydia has worked with Gus, who we get a little

bit more confirmation, at least all of his dudes are in custody.

If Gus isn't, and Mike was supposed to take care of some people that

our Gus's former associates, but instead of taking care of them,

Quote unquote.

Mike, protects them.

He actually takes care of them

yeah.

Without

without quotes.

And so Lydia assumes this means that Mike is going to turn informant and adds

his name to the hit list to protect her

She's just like, kill everybody who knows about

me.

And Mike's like, I'm not killing all my dudes.

And she's like, okay, other hitman kill everybody who knows about me.

And man, I wish I could have seen this hitman fight.

I like to think of it a lot like the end fight in metal gear, solid

three, you just have it on and then you turn off your PlayStation, set the clock

forward a week, and then it's over.

I also loved, uh, Mike's line here, uh, because they're talking about

how convincing Lydia seems, and he's just like, everyone is Meryl Streep

when you've got a gun to their head.

It's a good line.

but all this information, appeases Walt ask for trust and Lydia

details a train with a tanker that has 24,000 gallons of methymine.

And I immediately was just like, how, how do you, how do you move that?

How do you steal that?

And I loved their answer.

love their answer, but I gotta know what's the goal here?

They're gonna cook enough meth for the entire country's year supply.

Like we seen them take a like 50 gallon barrel right?

And turn that into 1.3 million worth of crystal.

Is

Yep.

he gonna be the muska meth?

Is he gonna be the Bezos of the blue?

The Saudi royal family of speed?

The buffet of bikers coffee, the Larry Ellison of La Glass, the Bernard

Arnold of blade, the gates of Go fast.

The Steve Palmer of Stovetop, the Bloomberg of Black Beauties.

The Coke of, oh God, what's this one?

Kone, I don't know.

That's on the list.

Uh, the Thompson a week, the Anai of Yba, the Pinal of Poor Man's Cocaine,

the Huang of Hot Ice, the Mackenzie Scott of shards, the Yas of Yellow

Barn, the Vladimir Potent of Ventana.

I,

The saltan of swat, Great Bambino.

How long did you work on that?

Um, I'd rather not say.

I can just see like you pulling up a list of, nicknames for meth and trying

to just like one webpage, nicknames of meth, one webpage, rich assholes.

Yep, that's exactly what it was.

Let me find the alliteration.

so immediately they are now planning their heist and

have a detailed map of Texas.

In their rust factory, abandoned rust factory.

And I'm just like, who, who brought a map of Texas to a murder?

Cuz that's what they were here to do.

It's the last thing you want is a map, a murder scene,

especially a map you're gonna draw on.

But I did love that they talked about, dark territory as

made famous by the seminal film Under Siege, two Dark Territory,

Is that the one where Van Dam punches someone in the

nuts so many times they die?

Or is that under siege one.

that's not van dammit, Steven Segal.

right.

It's Saal, not Vanta.

Yeah.

and I believe that is hard target

Okay.

where he kicked somebody in the nuts until they die.

Uh,

times or something and they just

yeah.

No, this is the one where, where Steven Segal is just a cook.

But instead of being an ex-Navy Seal, now Navy cook on an aircraft

carrier, he's on a train as they're going through dark territory.

And so no one can come and save the day but him.

Ah.

But yeah, man, train heist episode high hype.

Yeah, I did love, once again, Mike, getting all the best lines.

There are two kinds of heists, the ones you walk away from and the

ones where, you leave witnesses.

Although I was ready for him to say there are two types of heists, the ones you

walk away from and the ones you don't.

Uh, you know, it's, it's 50 50.

Either you get away with it or you don't.

after all this planning, we see Hank and Marie playing with the baby.

Yeah,

we don't really get an idea of what's actually going on with Skyler.

no.

don't know.

And, uh, Walt Jr goes by Flynn.

Now,

Yes.

do you, I assume this is his middle name, that like,

he's ashamed of his dad, so he doesn't want to be called Walt.

I'm guessing it is sim something similar or he just really,

really got into, Tron Legacy.

I don't think that was out yet.

So it's gotta be his middle name.

When did Tron Legacy come out?

20 12, 20 13.

I think we are in 2010 in story.

Maybe 2011.

so this was season five, so it'd been 2012, but it's not

moving at the same speed as time.

I don't know.

Yep.

Okay.

So he, he got into the original tron.

Okay.

There you go.

Joke still lands.

I was disappointed cuz I don't care how moody you are, I don't care.

Uh, how pissed off at your dad you are when somebody says,

Hey, you wanna watch heat?

I got heat on Blu-ray.

You sit down, you're watching heat on Blu-ray movie's.

to test this at the most inconvenient time in your life, Ben.

there are very few things that I would not go Yeah.

But I'd rather watch heat.

Uh, like the o like one of the few I can think of is if I'm currently

watching the Town, because I believe that's a better heist film.

but other than that, if I'm not watching the town or the Sting, I'm watching heat.

Mike and Walt argue really leaning in to Mike's, ride or die for Jesse.

I feel,

Mm-hmm.

we find out they need cash and that's to keep Gus's goons quiet.

So they need payoff money.

That's what all this is for.

Yep.

So that's why they can't just be like making, we're stealing

Sudafed mu amounts of meth.

They need, we need barrels.

Jesse comes up with an idea for the heist here.

I was hoping it was thermite on the train tracks.

surprised me like it's nice to see the character growth here that he's

capable of coming up with this stuff Now.

we cut over to the crew on the railway has they start to

measure out and bury some tanks

Yep.

Jesse Clemens.

Well, and first we get Fernando with the excavator and like, I want to know

how they found Fernando in the excavator.

Just like, did you rent one?

Did you, how'd you find a guy who could drive it?

I hope Fernando's getting like his day rate.

just

like, yeah, I don't care, man.

I'll, I'll drive out to the middle of nowhere Texas and

dig two giant holes for you.

I don't care.

Permits, I don't care, man.

Yeah,

But yeah, we get Jesse

I literally just rewatched u s s Callister episode of Black Mirror like two

or three days before I made these notes.

I've never seen a black mirror.

Oh, it's good.

I.

I.

mean, it's wholly depressing, but it's good.

Yeah.

I mean, some of it, was terrifying, you know, six

years ago, seven years ago

And now it's just the world.

Now it's just the world.

Watch that Waldo moment now.

It hits very, very differently.

It's almost like we elected a fucking cartoonist president.

Hey,

so I did actually, like they start explaining the plan to, uh, Jesse Clemens.

Todd,

Todd.

yes.

We've already got a Ted in this show.

Like, come

on.

There are more

names.

Ted.

Is he?

Ted's dead.

Yeah, Ted's dead.

This is

Todd.

Yeah.

we couldn't have named him, you know, Simmons something, I don't know.

they start explaining the plan where they are going to be pumping out some of the

meth lamine, replacing it with water,

you know, just doing a switcharoo so nobody notices,

Yeah, they're going for 900 gallons.

well they're stealing a thousand gallons of that, putting 900 back in

because Methymine is lighter than water.

Yep.

it's a actually really smart, clever idea, which made me immediately

go, how are they gonna screw this up?

Like, what's gonna go sideways here?

the soft math is that this is gonna make 26.2 million

worth of meth, by the way.

That's a lot of money.

That's the profit share based off of the 55 gallon drum making the

one point, three that they then split.

Okay.

yeah.

after this we're back at the white household

Yep.

He's back in, back in New

Mexico.

New Mexico, flying around.

Flynn has locked himself in his room.

Skyler's trying to get him to come out.

When Walt gets home, Walt tells Junior, to go to his aunt and

uncles because he said so.

and he says, Walt Flynn, Walt Junior says that's not good

enough, and then leaves anyway.

It just, it is like, you couldn't come up with any kind of conceivable lie.

Right.

it's not that hard.

you know, for two people who have been lying to each other and their kids for

years now, like, come up with something.

You'd think anything.

You could just say, Hey, your mom is really depressed right now

and it's not safe for you to be here.

you could say, you

we wanna have sex.

Get the fuck out.

Doesn't matter.

It's a lie that's going to squid out your 16 year old son real quick.

He's not gonna want to be around for that anything.

Just fuck anything.

And he's like, no, because I said so.

It's just so fucking lazy.

it is, it's really lazy.

And then it's also clear Skyler has not thought this through of, so your kids just

don't live with you for their whole lives.

One of them's a legit baby.

so her being like, Hey, the kids can never ever be here.

Although Hank and Marie, do say like, they seem

cool with just taking the baby,

Yeah.

because last time on they've been trying for three seasons and

haven't been able to conceive.

mm-hmm.

That's been a plot point we've just missed this whole time.

But my, the thing that got me was Walt is incredulous about this.

Ignoring the fact that out of the seven episodes we've seen, bad

guys have found him at his house.

In two of them,

It's true.

he got kidnapped and then un kidnapped again from out in front of his

Yes.

Twice now.

Very real

being like, yeah, people aren't gonna come here, people don't know.

Like, okay, you know what?

If you and Skylar aren't working out, stay in your gosh darn condo.

Wal, you're fine.

Yeah.

Skyler tells Walt she's done, she wants out, she calls herself

his hostage, honestly seems on base from what we've seen.

I think she's being hyperbolic in that she's caused enough

problems where it's like, Hey, if you hadn't killed Todd or Ted,

like we wouldn't have these other problems.

if you had had a job when we, this all started, I wouldn't

have had to start making meth.

you know.

I mean, it's just, I don't know.

We know she's taken a ton of his money.

We know she's taken at least $600,000 of his money,

Oh

um, if nothing else.

And I do think that the TED thing makes sense to me too.

So the hot water heater's been fixed,

That said, well, she's all, I'll do whatever you want.

I'll be whatever you want to just leave the kids out of this.

Walt is clearly perturbed by, by her actions that said, when she's

just like, where are you going?

He's like, gonna go rob a train.

Like he must at some level be liberated to be like, I'm not

sneaking, I'm not hiding around.

I can tell my wife I'm going to do crimes.

Not little crimes either.

yeah, no, I'm going to do a train

heist.

Hell yeah.

Lydia gets the details on the train and passes them over to Mike.

Mm-hmm.

They set up a semi on the road to stop the train.

Who was driving that semi?

Bill Burr.

Yeah.

Bill Burr.

I was just like, oh shit.

The guy from the Mandalorian.

I, I, well, he is also a standup

comedian

Ben, I'm doing your thing.

I

Okay.

uh, I actually, I saw him do standup once and he's hilarious.

So yeah, bill Burr, the engineers stop in time notice

Which I don't know as much as they, uh, did a, great job earlier with like

how I would hook up a bug to a computer.

They clearly don't know dick about trains.

It takes a train miles to come to a stop.

They stop, start pulling the brakes and notice Bill Burr maybe 400 yards away.

It's hard to say.

It is not like,

It's, we don't

That straightaway is not very long.

like to be able to judge the distance.

It's a, it's a big open desert, so it's not like we've got buildings or anything.

But we do have the distance from the road to the trestle.

We know that's 400

feet.

The straightaway is not orders of magnitude longer than that.

Re uh, relative distance

I mean, you don't have to sell me on the writers not

understanding distance as a concept when Walt is magically teleporting

between Albuquerque and Houston.

Yes.

Fair.

but, they notice, bill Burr in the amount of time that bill is standing

outside of the dump truck, waving his

hands

where I would be.

dump truck and train, and it's like, oh, we're about

to get a ginger pancake here.

Like,

Nope.

Not standing there maybe for a minute, but not nearly as long as he was.

Woo.

have, it is unfortunate.

I have seen, one episode of one show making it something we can't do.

I've seen one episode of, Handmaid's Tale where a bunch of people just get smoked

by a train and I was just like, oh, no.

I would say that one episode of a show is not necessarily a disqualifier.

Uh,

I just, none of my predictions could be a bunch of these

girls get smoked by a train.

I, I, honestly, I, I'd let you have it.

but, I have seen a little bit of Handmaid's Tale and I have

no interest in watching it.

Yeah.

I came into the room when my wife was watching and I'm like, oh, these

girls are all running to freedom.

It's like that train is actually way too close.

Maybe like, maybe the c g I was off like.

I don't know what's going on.

Like they are not running at the right pace.

Oh, they all did.

Ugh.

so, uh, they actually stop and it is Go Jesse, go Ted Time or Todd

They run up, they start attaching the hoses and opening stuff up and

getting at the Methymine while Bill Burr is like, I can't fix my truck.

Help me.

You guys are engineers.

Yep.

and this is a fun time for me to tell my little story.

My father was an engineer, like the kind who designs, parts for cars.

He went to college while I was very, very young to go back, get

his degree, become an engineer.

Came home one day, brought the family into the living room

and proudly said I graduated.

Today, as of today, I am an engineer

Mm-hmm.

and about five or six year old Ben goes.

What kind of train are you going to drive?

And he goes, not that kind of engineer.

And five, six year old Ben just does not care.

You are not the cool kind of engineer.

You don't get to wear the hat.

You're not wearing

overalls.

I could not give less of a

crap.

You're not hanging out with Ringo.

I don't give a shit.

Nope.

Do not care.

Call me when you meet Thomas

. I did like that.

as, bill Burr is monkeying around trying to like, waste these engineers time.

Part of it.

They're like, I guess we push it.

This is a dump truck with a load of sand in the back.

Yeah,

Three guys are not pushing this

well they try, but Bill is like, I love the shot where they're

pushing and bill's just like, Ugh.

he could actually been pushing.

They're not moving it.

I know I've tried to push a minivan with about seven guys.

Now, this was in the mud, but still,

Yeah,

but we do get a random nice, native man who shows up in his giant truck, and

he's just like, I'll give you a push.

And like, oh, no, no, no.

We don't wanna mess up your truck.

He's like, I'll go slow.

It's fine.

It's like, thank you.

Nice man.

Please don't, but sure.

The engineers are, like you said, it's fine, dude, just let 'em fucking push it.

yep.

So they push the truck and it

For the

last few minutes, Mike has been like, Hey, cut bait.

go.

go.

go.

And Walt is like, no, we're not going until we've gotten every last ounce.

Yep.

Which is pointless.

Like it's already a ton of money.

They don't need the extra million dollars from the last 50 or whatever.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Every 55 gallons is 1.6 million or whatever.

Then they don't need, at that point, they're fine.

They've got enough money to buy off nine dudes, but Yeah.

But, uh, that's not as dramatic, you know.

So you said it's how many million per 55 gallon drum.

I did the math 1.3 million for per 55 gallon drum.

So they have enough.

If they take all a thousand, that is 23 and a half million dollars worth of meth,

that is like, okay, you only got 22?

Yeah, we're published.

right?

Yeah.

Oh, how terrible.

Mm-hmm.

go buy some Bitcoin.

Trust me.

2009.

Go buy some Bitcoin with that.

And sell Right.

In 2018.

Ignore the Hoang.

Yep.

So they managed to just get out in time.

Todd gets everything, sealed back up and jumps off the top and, oh, no.

Yep.

As soon as they all gather, they're like, Hey, we did it.

They see the little kid from the opening that nefarious meth, Lord,

that's been competing with Walt, and Todd's just like, oh, I've been

wanting to do this for a while.

Fuck you other meth, Lord, and shoots him dead.

Yep.

I, until this moment, as soon as we met Todd, I'm like, oh, the kid

on the bike was Todd when he was a kid, and Mike's gonna kill him out here and

there's gonna be like a spider in a jar next to where he lands or something, and

it will be like this full circle moment.

That's what I was expecting.

I was clearly wrong.

Yeah.

I, I was firmly in the, in the camp of this is going to be like the nice bumbling

guy who you feel sad when he beefs

Mm-hmm.

as it stands now, I'm just like, oh, how is Todd the loose cannon?

Like, you've got Jesse, you've got Bill Burr, you've got Walt

making terrible decisions.

Like,

Cold-blooded Mike.

And then just fucking, Nope.

Todd.

Todd, Todd's the problem.

Yep.

And that's it.

We go to credits.

All right, well, I'm gonna grab the dice here and roll him up and we'll

see where we're going next, and then we'll go over our predictions.

All right.

That is a eight.

So our next episode is going to be, Season five, episode 13 or more aptly.

Season 5.5, episode five.

and I'll look that up after our predictions cuz I don't want anything

to spoil me before we make them.

All right, so let's go back and look at our previous predictions and see

if we've scored any points here.

from EP one.

I've got Jesse's gonna get shot.

Walt cheats on his wife and his cancer diagnosis is incorrect.

Two of those are still on the table.

From our mine, I got, Skyler never actually writes anything.

We got the that point.

Boden gets run over by a car in the carwash.

It's a feel good moment.

I gave myself a point for that.

Gomez is murdered violently by Hank, and I am so glad to never get that

It's still on the table though.

Nah, nobody can kill the king of El

Paso.

season two, episode one, I've got Jesse accidentally spills a

bag of meth because it isn't sealed.

I'm taking it.

Ah,

to have happened.

It has to have happened.

Jesse's also much more competent now.

Yeah.

Well, exactly.

I don't think it's going to happen going forward.

I think it has happened.

Okay.

Marie comes to visit in seals.

Walt's hat.

Hank catches.

Walt Walt cuts him in in the operation.

All right.

I had, Tuco ends up working for Walt.

Nope.

Hank has to choose between Marie Kleptomania at his job.

He picks his job and, no one ever actually to tries to turn.

Walt and Jesse Inn every problem is only because of their own paranoia and naivete.

Not the case at this point, I feel,

I, so far every problem has been brought on by themselves.

no, no.

Last episode, I think Gus pretty clearly disqualified that with

the whole thing with the Don Gu.

was Gus's problem.

Nobody was trying to turn in.

Walter,

Jesse was almost a slave.

Yeah, but he was, that was never actually going to happen.

It was part

of Gus's attempt to kill the, the cartel.

was a problem Jesse had to deal with.

I didn't say they don't have to deal with it.

I'm just saying no one is ever trying to

turn them into the

brought upon them by Gus.

Yeah.

Not by Walt and Jesse.

Exactly like that is a problem outside of their paranoia.

I just more mean like no one's ever actually trying to turn them into the dea.

No one has ever gone to the cops on them.

mm.

I think Hank's gonna bust them and take that point away from you.

Maybe, but at this point, I feel like every problem is them getting

in over their heads and doing dumb stuff and more reactionary dumb stuff.

All right, well, skipping ahead to season two, episode nine.

I've got the upgrade in their operation, which has happened twice now.

Skyler finds out about Walt, that happens now.

My prime time.

They lose the baby.

That's my wording.

They lose the baby.

Right now they don't have the baby.

The baby

But that's, they gave it away.

They didn't lose it.

They know where it is.

It's not lost.

Mm

mm mm No.

at my sister's, I know where it is.

It's not lost.

I don't think they have the option of taking the baby back though.

I think they've lost the baby effectively.

No.

They could get it back.

I don't.

We'll see what it's like.

Next episode.

We'll go from there.

Yeah.

I have Kristen Ritter becomes a problem.

I believe that was the case.

And I believe she's not a problem anymore.

the RV explodes.

We haven't seen the RV in a while.

I'm willing to say the RV is The, victim of a accidental therm

That seems fair to me.

Yeah.

and, uh, alas, uh, skinny Pete is never seen, but is, uh, called

at least three more times, and then we immediately saw Skinny Pete.

Skipping ahead to season three, episode five.

, Walt and Jesse burbury the hatchet and cook together again.

That's happened.

They got

Evening Walt and Jesse's rift deepens, leading to them

becoming rivals on the meth scene.

Possibly happened, possibly didn't.

Hard to say.

And then prime time, Wal and Skyler get back together.

This has happened.

It's not great.

I would say it's, I would say it's terrible, but it has happened.

I don't

They're living

somebody says, you're my, I'm your slave.

look, I didn't say they get back together and are happy.

I didn't say they get back together and it's a functional relationship.

I said they get back together.

Skylar says, I can be whatever kind of wife you want me to be.

I'm not in support of this relationship, but it exists.

Yeah.

All right.

Points.

And I had, Jesse and Walt reconcile

point, they are back in the rv, but to live well, I'm gonna say that's

not true because the RV got thermite.

and Gus becomes a chicken magnate and leaves drugs behind.

No.

Daytime, for season four episode one, Saul changes his name to Sal

and starts practicing law in Mexico.

We didn't see him this episode, maybe evening.

We never see Mike again.

We've seen Mike again

Yep.

Prime time Gomez returns to finish the job.

Hank can't.

Gomez is returned.

Gomez has returned.

I don't know if this one counts though.

Finish the job.

Hank can't, Hank does strike me as a nept and Gomez is the brains of the operation.

Mm.

We'll see.

We'll give it another episode.

Yep.

I got, they killed Gus in an incredibly over the top fashion.

Entirely possible.

as Hank is taking down Gus's, uh, organization, they may have wiped him out

too.

Mike kills a lot of people all at once, and Wal and Jesse blow up the lab.

The lab is gone.

Yes.

I, I firmly believe if they could be using that lab, they would.

But when everything was going down, what did they do to that lab affair?

Thermite.

They thermite the hell outta that

lab.

No evidence.

What?

is destroyed.

I do believe the lab is destroyed.

In all

Oh yeah.

They therm the hell outta that

thing.

that evidence.

Season four, episode 10, Hank heals up and gets on the trail of Walt and Jesse.

This has happened.

He got on the trail of something.

He's, he is actively on their trail.

He was

investigating meth barrels they had, were about to steal and

didn't because of the trackers.

He is on their trail.

He might not know it's them, but he is on their trail.

yeah, or the Texas Bureau was on them, but yeah, they messed it up.

All right, evening Mike Abandons Gus to work for Jesse, and

hence Walt appears to be the case.

My only worry is abandons.

Mm,

I think it might just be a, we were the three guys left standing

who were smart enough to not be here when everything went down.

But I'm guessing that, your more Right.

that it's when whatever went down with Gus went down, Mike was on their

side.

All right.

I'll take those two points and then prime time.

Skylar gets killed still on the table.

We'll see.

so for my daytime, I've got Skylar kills Ted.

I firmly believe that is the case.

Saul has a full mental breakdown.

Maybe that's where he is.

He's con convalescing.

and I have Gus finally gets on top only for someone else to rip his

whole organization down and kill him.

That does feel like what happened?

know that he's dead though.

I, if he was still alive, they would be talking about it.

He would be the ghost over their shoulder.

Quite possibly.

I, I do, I do think he's dead.

Yeah.

to give you that prime time point.

The other two, I want to give a little bit more time.

don't think Skylar killed Ted?

I want to give it one more episode

If you had made that prediction three episodes ago and we hadn't seen

them, For sure, but dead characters just missing from one episode.

Eh?

You gotta give it more than one.

I think that's a good rule, just in general for our predictions.

It's not a bad rule.

All right, and so now we have our predictions from this Season five,

episode five, knowing we've got Season five, episode 13, and the finale left

We're almost

daytime, Todd dies.

He's getting killed.

It's gonna happen,

Oh yeah.

evening.

Walt Jr slash Flynn learns the truth about his dad

Hmm.

and prime time Hank kills.

Walt adopts the baby.

Okay.

for the finale.

I don't think that's happened in next episode, but we'll see where it

All right.

Well, my daytime, Hank and Marie, keep the baby.

Okay?

Yeah.

I'm almost ready to give you that point.

my evening, Flynn learns that his dad was doing, but not, Skyler's involvement.

see we have the same prediction there.

Mm-hmm.

Very close,

Well, I, I specify he just learns the truth about his dad, so

Yeah.

I do think Skyler will remain, uh, out of that.

my prime time, the gang frames and kills Lydia.

Oh, that's, that, that feels on brand.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, we've got season three, episode 13, TELI,

Can you spell that?

t o apostrophe, H A J I I L E E.

Okay,

Things heat up in unexpected ways.

That's it.

that's it.

it.

It's our last up before the finale and I'm really looking forward to

watching it cuz haven't had a chance to do that with the way this works.

Obviously we can't, get there getting to the finale.

It's exciting.

I'm excited Ben.

Just like, I'm excited to thank Ripe for giving us their song

Goon Squad as our theme music.

Thank you so much.

It's a fucking bob fucking love that I get to edit podcast with that song.

It still doesn't feel real.

No, it does

they're on tour right now until the end, August.

Go check them out.

They're actually not terribly far from us.

Next week,

Ooh,

we will,

uh, zu.

Oh,

We'll talk about it anyways.

Uh, also thank you to Annette Lucina for your wonderful photo of a television,

which we've used to make our podcast art.

Thank you for using Creative Commons license and letting artists who are

just doing their thing, like Ben and I, putting content out there.

Creative Commons a great way to do it.

We really appreciate it.

Thank you.

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