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What is up guys and gals?

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This is Dope for Life, the

host of the Hyperview podcast.

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And I'm here today with

a very special guest.

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I am here with none other than A Pain, a

singer, songwriter, and content creator,

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hailing from Stockton, California.

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And go ahead, introduce yourself.

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I appreciate you for coming on to the

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a payne: show.

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Definitely.

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Thank you for having me.

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My name is A Pain.

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I'm originally from Stockton, California.

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Sacramento has been like

my performance home.

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Like that's where like I've learned

so much like the music game.

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I made so many great

friends and connections.

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So I'm so blessed to, you know,

doing my thing, you know, so.

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Right.

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rob: No, that's dope.

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That's dope.

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And I'm, I'm, we're,

Sacramento's glad to have you.

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I have.

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I like to binge like

the day of the artist.

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Like YouTube page, Facebook

page, like everything.

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Just so like, I kind of get a vibe of who

you are as an artist or as whatever you

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are in the capacity of your creativity.

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Right.

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Cause I don't like to, I try not to, you

know, put everybody in the, to a box.

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Cause people like to be

whatever they would like to be.

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But I want to see you in your element.

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Right.

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And, no, you've got, like, ridiculously

dope videos, right, like, dope songs

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and I could just tell you put a

lot of meticulous nature into your

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craft, you know what I mean, like

thinking about it, making sure that

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it looks good and that the quality

is, is of a certain standard, right?

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Like, because it's one thing to

have like one good video, right?

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But then to have like multiple,

it'd be like, okay, like this is a

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standard that this person has to,

and they want to make sure every

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time they come in they come correct.

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a payne: Right.

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Well, you know, like.

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I do the best that I can, especially

with the budget that I have, but you

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know, God has been very good to me.

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This is like, I grew up, my background

as a child, I grew up singing in

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choirs, doing school performances,

drama class, that type of thing.

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But

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we didn't necessarily have

like a performing arts school.

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I feel like if I would have been

in a performing arts environment.

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I would already be, I guess, there

already, but I didn't really start I

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didn't start songwriting until my 20s.

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So with my daughter's dad.

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And

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rob: what do you mean by songwriting?

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Like, full blown songs or just literally

just writing lyrics in general?

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a payne: I did poetry as a like, as

a middle school, you know, like I did

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poetry and all those types of things.

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And I, I actually started off like

when I was a kid, I was shy to sing.

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So I used to rap, but it was horrible.

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Those ain't no, don't get me wrong.

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Like I always had the, the, I have

the gift of writing like English

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was one of my favorite subjects.

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And Love reading a lot as a child,

you know, I mean, we had social

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media to a certain extent, but

it wasn't like, yeah, it is now.

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So I used to write short stories

and I for, you know, like, I don't

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know, Sacramento has like senior

portfolio or senior project, you

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know, like your final project.

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So for my final project, I wrote a book.

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Okay.

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So I always like, I

always like, like, Okay.

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Romance novels and like urban

love stories and shit like Eric

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Jerome Dickey and what's the name?

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Zayn and all that shit, so.

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I used to be reading

stuff I had on, but it's

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rob: like, what?

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Right.

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Ghetto romance, pretty much.

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I think we all got introduced to Zayn,

like if you are 89 and beyond, right?

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Okay,

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a payne: we had Eric Jerome

Dickey, we had Zayn, we had Sister

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rob: Soulja.

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And yeah, no, you for, you for sure

should not have been reading that shit.

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But

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a payne: why not?

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Cause I should be in class like, girl,

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rob: And to be honest though, I can't

even be mad at you if you, if it got you

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into a book, you know what I'm saying?

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Cause reading is just a different

way of like consuming information

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because that's your imagination.

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There's somebody else's word, but it's

like, but your mind has to make it come

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alive versus you watching something on TV.

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And then that's you consuming

somebody else's like.

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Imagery, but like, that's

you, I'm sorry, not

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a payne: to cut you off.

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No, I also like Donald goings.

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Like I liked, like, I mean, now

I'm from Stockton, California.

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It's, I guess it's considered hood

now, but like in the nineties, we're

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like a lower middle class family.

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You know what I'm saying?

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I didn't grow up like.

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In the ghetto, but I went to school, like,

my friends was from the ghetto, but it

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was cool, like, we, we partners, we don't

care, you know, so, it's like, I'm, I'm

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you know, I'm seasoned, I'm well versed in

the suburbs, and, and the ghetto, so not,

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like, I just, you know, I always used to,

I loved reading, and I loved writing, and

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expressing myself, and, you know, in the

90s, we went to play outside, we making

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them dances, and we recording tapes,

and, like, you know, I'm feeling my age.

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Like, So I'm not that old, like

I'm not a dinosaur guys, but I'm,

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you know, I'm, I'm in my thirties.

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rob: Cause we was like, we was like young

enough to like know about CDs and like

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just young enough to be able to make fun

of 8 tracks, you know what I'm saying?

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Right.

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and, and, and vinyls and all

that stuff, but we like knew

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what it was and how it worked.

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But we also were young enough

to like have AOL and dial up

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and you know what I'm saying?

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Like so.

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a payne: Mhmm.

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Oh, I stay

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rob: with AOL.

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All of y'all.

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a payne: Right, I stay with AOL.

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I have the free little trial disc.

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I never pay for it.

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Okay, so.

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Remember, you remember the CDs?

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Like you could get like a

hundred CDs for a penny and shit?

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Like everything.

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rob: They used to just send

them to people's houses.

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I remember when we, when we

finally did like move to Elk

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Grove when I was in high school.

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We would just get disc in the mail.

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Like 63 minutes of ale,

you know what I mean?

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Online time.

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All you had to do was have it

clicked up to the, to the phone line.

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I don't think my parents even knew

what internet was until like May after

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I graduated, but I had been online.

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a payne: Right.

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My parents are older.

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So.

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My parents are much older.

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So my dad, he was actually like,

he was like 46 when I was born.

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Okay.

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My mom, she was in her late

30s and shit like that.

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So they ain't know

nothing about no internet.

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I'm doing all types of shit.

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Like, but what I really,

I was being creative.

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Like, I even as a child, like

that's when I've, I've always

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been interested in media.

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I wasn't like classically trained.

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Like I used to use photoshop

and things like that.

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I don't do it so much now because

now that I'm doing music and I'm

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putting my own visuals and I'm writing

my own songs, I'd rather just, you

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know, like shit, it's too much.

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Like, I mean, if you're a one man

band by all means, but I'd rather

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work with other content creators too.

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And we all, you know,

shit, promote each other.

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That's all, that's all we

got at the end of the day.

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rob: Well, speak to that.

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I think that goes to a lot of like,

what I've made the show for, right?

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Hyperview, like, we kind of like

previously talked about, you

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know, is about that balance.

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And I really do, or I try to, stick to a

descriptive like community like you really

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like you cannot do this on your own.

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I've been doing it for 10 maybe 13

years now being an entrepreneur and

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most people don't even know what I do.

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But it's not because I'm

not good at what I do.

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I just wasn't going out and talking to

people like I didn't find that to be a

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priority so for me it was like no you

need to prioritize like bridging that gap.

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Being aware of other people, not

only for what you can get from them,

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but what you can do for them, right?

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Like, you can see it as You can see it

as I want to use this person because

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they make good videos, but you could

also see it as I want to give them

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an opportunity to be able to do and

work in the capacity that they love.

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Right.

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And they can't do that without me

working in the capacity that I love.

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Right.

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And that's really what I'm like.

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I'm trying to reframe not only my

own mind, but everybody's mind to

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be able to think in that capacity

because the money is just a right.

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A outcome of you helping

somebody else, right?

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You serve somebody else, you

solved a problem for them.

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The more you can do that,

the more money you will have.

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So like the end goal should be

money is how could I be a more,

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more value to somebody else?

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You know what I mean?

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So you speak to like building

community and like wanting to work

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with people in the capacities where

that's their specialty and you can

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respect that and be like, I don't

need to, you know what I'm saying?

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Take my time up when somebody loved doing

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a payne: this.

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Right.

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And, and for me, money is not

really the issue that to me, money

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is just a, a, a tool that lets me

know, Hey, I respect your time.

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Let's get this done.

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Let's get to work.

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I've been in entrepreneur.

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I'm licensed cosmetologist first

and foremost, but after COVID hit,

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I have, I have, I have my own small

business and I had lost my clientele

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due to COVID and, you know My own

mental issues, depression, you know

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rob: COVID come around slapping,

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a payne: COVID whoop my ass.

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I'm like, hold on.

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What the fuck?

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Like, I'm saying, sorry,

can we cuss on here?

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I was

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rob: like, this is my show.

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Right, right.

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I was like, you know, I'll let

them tell me, take it down.

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a payne: Right, right.

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But as far as I was entrepreneur

for six years pre COVID, COVID hit.

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I went to a deep depression and

you know, just my life story,

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whatever, like I was drinking and

doing the most and I had experienced

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a bad breakup and all that shit.

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And I just had to take a step

back and get my life together.

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Now I have a nine to five

and I fucking hate it.

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Like, it's just not

really what I want to do.

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It's, it's not conducive to what

I'm trying to do, but I understand

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like, you know, we have to pay

bills and things like that.

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But when you're an entrepreneur,

you're just a dreamer period,

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like a content creator.

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Like you literally just think of

things and imagine things all the time.

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And even as a grown person, like a lot of

people project their fears on you because.

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They they're scared to dive

into their imagination.

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I play all day.

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I don't care.

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I'm never going to grow up.

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Like, as far as like, I get it.

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Like I have children, I'm married.

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I have priorities, but at the

same time, it's like, you have

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to take some type of risk.

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You've got to take some type of gamble.

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I, my goal was never to work for 40,

50 years for another company while, and

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then I get a fucking check at the end.

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What?

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a pension every month from then,

and then I have to budget that.

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Like, I'd rather if I can take the risk.

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I'm just a risk taker.

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I'm also not in a unsafe sense.

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It's just like I spent so much

time being reserved, I guess.

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I mean, I guess I'll say I

was an introvert as a younger

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person, but now it's like, shit.

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You can't, I mean, you can be

introvert to a certain extent.

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It's just, I like to be around

creatives that fuel my creative side.

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It's really like, it helps

me with my mental health.

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And I can't like that whole

A type personality jobs.

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I cannot fucking stand them, honestly.

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I don't care.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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No,

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rob: they're not.

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I think you figure out

very quickly, right?

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Because there's, I won't say

there's two types of people.

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I feel like the majority of people,

some people are just being lazy, right?

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Like they just don't want to work for

nobody and they have an authority problem.

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Doesn't mean you should be a boss.

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You just got some shit

you need to work out.

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Right?

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Right.

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Other people, right?

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They are not fit to be an

employee because they are a boss.

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Like, I don't, I understand that

I should not be here, not because

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I cannot do the work, because I

understand that my capacity is higher

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than what you currently have me doing.

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Right?

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Like, you know what I'm saying?

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I'll

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a payne: get the money.

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Don't give me, nah, I play the game now.

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100%.

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I need my check.

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But if you get, go too fucking far, let

me walk about this job for a act of fool.

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rob: Right.

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No.

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And, but that's the, and

that's the thing, right?

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It's like you're, and that's

what makes you a boss.

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Right.

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To me, right.

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A boss is not somebody who can't

work for somebody else because

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in some way you're leveraged for

somebody else in all capacities.

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Right.

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Like whether you're in your

own business or you're working

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for somebody else, right.

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Like you're, you're leveraged

for somebody else's deal.

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Right.

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So you're always going to have

kind of some kind of hierarchy.

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The, the, the trick is right.

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How, how, how do I want to

fit into that cog, right?

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Do I want to trade my ability?

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To be able to make a limited income

for security and safety, right?

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Because that's what a 95 is, right?

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Like, I know this check is

coming, regardless of the level of

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effort that I put forward, right?

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I've already negotiated a certain

set of money towards Hours, right?

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And as long as I show up for that

amount of time, I can pretty much

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calculate what I'm going to get.

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While as entrepreneurship is like,

you're saying as more of a risk, right.

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And an upfront investment of time

and energy without any like immediate

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gratification of money coming back.

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You know what I mean?

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Or real big money, like a lot of times.

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The most of the entrepreneurs

that I talked to, especially the

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ones that are making, let's say

six, seven, eight figures, right?

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They fail for a long time.

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You know what I mean?

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Like they've sucked for a

while until they got it right.

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a payne: Failure is sucking.

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It's like, you're literally

learning something like.

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You can go to somebody's company, and

they give you a fuckin shelf of fuckin

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Oh, this is what you do, this is your

job description, blah, blah, blah, that's

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cool, but it's not, it's not that you're

failing, it's like you're literally trying

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to learn, like, as far as, like, music.

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That's, like, It's like a kind of drop

in a bucket type thing because everybody

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wants to do music but the real like

how people they use their music to

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promote products they use their music

to they get going to different avenues.

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rob: You gotta have a plan about yourself.

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Yeah, right.

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You can't just be out trying to just do it

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a payne: to do it.

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And that's what I learned.

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I've been signed before and things

like that, like a local label,

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whatever, signed a few years back.

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So I've been doing music since

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Okay.

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Not consistently, but on and off.

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I started out in Sacramento.

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You remember Blue Lamp,

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rob: right?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I do.

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I I, I performed there myself, been

the shows the whole nine years.

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Right, right,

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a payne: right.

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So I was a part of the whole,

like, you know what I'm saying?

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Like.

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She's good people.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Say shout out to Gabby.

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Shout out to Chauncey.

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Like, I met some amazingly dope artists.

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I've had my own show there in

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It's not on streaming no more.

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'cause it got to them because at

that time, you know I had a that's

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my husband and my son coming in.

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So if you hear a baby

screaming, don't you?

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All

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rob: good?

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. You all good baby?

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a payne: Norm.

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Okay.

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So basically I've been in Sacramento

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I lived there until 2018 and then I've

been back and forth like as far as

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my business and I just started like

kind of, I had to be my own boss.

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I was working for myself.

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I was a new mom with my

oldest daughter at the time.

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And I just had to promote myself,

like, that is, I don't know what it is.

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It's like a certain type of energy, like

an entrepreneurial energy in Sacramento.

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It's like, I'm going to

get up and go do something.

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I'm just going to stand outside.

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Fuck it.

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Like, you want your hair done, girl?

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Yeah, come on.

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Like, I literally, like, that's

how I used to promote myself.

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And it's like, it was like, so cool.

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Like, not to say that Stockton, like,

isn't the same, but it's like, kind of,

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if people grew up with you and they seen

you in school and things like that, I'm

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like, oh, that's My real name is Tanya.

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Oh, that's just Tanya from Narnia.

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I'm paying right now.

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Watch who you talking

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rob: to.

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Hey, look, they said, they said Jesus

couldn't even make no, couldn't make

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any miracles happen where he was from.

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Cause the lack of belief.

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Nah, cause he couldn't do it

cause he did it everywhere else.

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They just didn't believe that.

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He's like, I mean, I'm out of here.

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You know, and they just

saw him as little Jesus.

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You know what I'm saying?

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a payne: As, as a, I feel like now, like

the Valley, the central Valley where

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like, you know, it's starting to be

more unity and things of that nature.

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But like the blue lab was fucking tough.

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Like I used to go there

and they didn't know me.

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I wasn't from Sacramento.

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So like, Hey y'all, I'm just

talking to Californians.

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People will walk out.

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Like, who is this?

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And then I'm like, well, fuck it, huh?

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And then everybody come

back in like, who the fuck?

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So heck, make a name for yourself.

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I'm not famous or nothing,

but you know, I mean, right.

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rob: Niggas know , Hey,

talent speaks for itself.

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But I mean, to, to, to go back to

like the, you suck phase, right?

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Like.

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I feel like you do like, and I,

cause I'm just a realist, right?

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Like you do suck compared to like

how much better you'll be in a year

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or two years or three years, right?

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Like you gotta allow yourself that

time to suck so you can get better.

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You know what I mean?

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Like, cause if you don't

go through that suck phase.

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You won't ever be better or if

you don't start because you think

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a payne: you're gonna say me when

I when I think of the word I'm very

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Well, I've grown out of being super

duper self critical okay, so When I

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say failure or I've seen something that

will Smith has said he said he said

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you have to be able to not be Afraid

to fail forward meaning keep failing

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keep failing keep failing keep failing

eventually, you know, so you gotta you

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gotta win it's like You practicing?

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It's like, I used to play instruments.

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I used to play piano and guitar.

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But because I wasn't being encouraged

by like my friends and things like that.

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Oh, why you want to play guitar?

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Why you want to bitch?

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Mind your business.

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Like that's what I should have

said at the time, but I didn't.

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I was a kid, you know,

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rob: right, right, right, right.

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a payne: It took me a while

to I was petrified to sing.

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I didn't really, nobody really,

none of my close friends and

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family knew I could sing.

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So like I was fucking like grown.

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All right, bitch.

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I've been doing this in my room.

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I've been practicing.

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Well, I've been sucking

in my room for you.

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I'm not no pause.

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Well, that's not like I've been I've been

practicing in my room for years, you know,

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so This is a family show But yeah, so give

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rob: him an uncle roger.

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Sorry children, you know, you

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a payne: know I I literally just Music is

like a part of my heart Son, is he loose?

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My son, he, he on one, he ain't even two,

he only one and a half, he trippin Is he

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rob: loose?

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No that's a, that's a common thing I

think from all of people, right, is

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that we get to this, this place where

it's like, because the people who

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are closest to us, friends, families,

people who we would think like, bro,

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you'll support me just cause you

know me and you know I'm the shit.

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Right.

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Right.

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Or, you know what I'm saying?

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And, and like, you love me,

you would want to support me.

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They'd be like, you can't say like,

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a payne: And

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rob: nobody has, unless you come from

it, like, there's a few people that I,

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that I, that I look to like Killer Mike.

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Dave Chappelle, like Kanye West, right?

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People may not like everything

that they do, but they're

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very secure in who they are.

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They're very confident in their vision.

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And one thing that they all have

in confident was a very strong

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foundational, like family support

that was like, you could do it.

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Believe in yourself, have

a vision and go after it.

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Cause to be honest, that's all that's,

that's really, what's important is that

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if you can stay hyper and like focused

on your vision, you wouldn't have gave

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a shit what nobody was talking about.

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Right, right.

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No, nothing.

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Nobody would have had to say what

it mattered unless it was going

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towards what your vision was.

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Cause that's what I ought to,

wasn't been important to you, but

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nobody really teaches us how to

do that until later on in life.

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After we've accepted all these

retarded ass agreements that

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don't really serve us, but we've.

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We didn't know how not to do that.

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You know what

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a payne: I mean?

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Well, for me, I come from a musical

family, but they work, it's like

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I have a lot of family and nursing

and corrections and shit like that.

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I never, as a shorty, I never wanted

to fucking do none of that shit.

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I'm gonna fucking sing.

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Like, I don't

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rob: know what's right.

471

Oh, you think you

472

a payne: is shit.

473

You'll see For me I thrive off a

motherfucking doubt me Let me give me

474

a you know what I'm saying, but I did

have support But my family, my parents

475

are older and things of that nature.

476

Like, you know, we didn't really

have the, in the nineties and early

477

two thousands, like a lot of people

wanted you to shelf out all this

478

money to, you know, do what you do.

479

And it was, you know, they would,

if you just, you know, have your.

480

Regular job and shit.

481

Like my parents took care of me, like

I had a stable ba you know, a stable

482

childhood and things of that nature.

483

But she was like, I didn't

go shot at this shit.

484

I had to invest in myself and say fuck it.

485

Like, fuck what people think.

486

And like, and it was hard for me

to accept, like, it was like I'm

487

making music and you know, my shit

might've been garage band at the

488

time, but that's all I can afford.

489

And it was amazing to me, like just

being able in the element to create.

490

It was so cool, but it took me years

to learn about quality and working

491

with artists and have working with

a label and they're not seeing

492

my vision and I'm the songwriter.

493

So it's like, but I, you know,

I understand like when you're

494

a label, you're pretty much

an employee of the label.

495

So I understand that now, but

496

rob: I was, everybody's leverage, right?

497

What part of you in the cog?

498

a payne: They want me to make

extremely vulgar music, which

499

I mean, don't get me wrong.

500

I'm grown, you know, we do, we do

as adults, but as far as like, I

501

don't want to me personally, I really

look at music at art, not trying to

502

go viral, not trying to be cliche

or catchy or I don't give a fuck.

503

I basically make this music that

I want to hear for myself because.

504

It got to a point where I was just

tired of hearing certain shit.

505

Like I would literally get mad.

506

Like, I'm like, what the

fuck is this on the radio?

507

Yo, like, really?

508

You know, but

509

rob: then I'd be,

510

a payne: you know, I'm a hater.

511

Oh, you old.

512

And like the internet is insane.

513

Like.

514

I have Twitter and stuff like that.

515

And a lot of times, you know,

people become unhinged on Twitter.

516

Like I'll send a random comment

on a random thread and he

517

will, Oh, you're failed singer.

518

Oh, you're this, you're

that blah, blah, blah.

519

I'm like, did you watch my video?

520

Thank you.

521

And

522

rob: the crazy part to me, and thank you,

yes, thank you for watching my video.

523

Thank you for knowing I'm a singer.

524

Thank you for having an opinion on if

I'm still succeeding or not, because

525

most people just don't even care.

526

So the fact that you took time out

of your day to write a comment, I

527

appreciate you bro, whether it's good,

bad, or indifferent, but most people

528

will allow themselves to never reach

their dreams just because they're

529

afraid of that type of comment, right?

530

Like when that's a compliment.

531

a payne: I love social media.

532

Like I, I talk crap all day.

533

Like that's kind of like where I

have a dark ass sense of humor.

534

I'm fucking terrible, but I'm not like a

heartless person, but I have a dark sense

535

of, you know, like, you know, I like.

536

Dirt comedy like Dave Chappelle's

on my favorite comedian

537

Chris rock, you know, fucking

538

rob: davis is shit.

539

I love him

540

a payne: bernie mack You know Williams,

you know i'm saying like who's your

541

rob: who's your musical influences?

542

a payne: My musical influences.

543

Okay, so I have a few so alia would

be one of my musical influences

544

I just love her the tone of her

voice and like just her spirit and

545

effortlessness That she had alia Missy

elliott as far as creativity I'm Drake.

546

I know people are like Drake,

cause he's so extra, but I

547

love his songwriting ability.

548

I love his versatility

and things of that nature.

549

And who else?

550

Frank Ocean.

551

Frank Ocean is like, he's like one of

the, he's one of the artists that made

552

me feel like, okay, I could write.

553

Like I used to be petrified to write.

554

I didn't know what the fuck to write.

555

I'm like, Oh my God, I

don't know what to write.

556

It's like, I could sing, but

I don't know what to write.

557

And who else?

558

I love Keisha Cole.

559

Like I just had to shout out to Keisha.

560

She on tour right now.

561

I'm trying to, Keisha and Keisha

is another person that I was like,

562

man, she's from like Oakland.

563

I'm like, Oh my God.

564

Like, she's like, not, I'm not

from Oakland, but like, well, like

565

if she can do it, I can do it.

566

And she was so young and

just doing her thing.

567

Yeah, no,

568

rob: Keisha should be a, a, a

poster child for if she can do

569

it, literally anybody can do it.

570

Like

571

a payne: she came from the struggle.

572

Just be screaming at people.

573

She came from the struggle and nothing

and I will argue somebody down who say she

574

can't say I'm like you guys Keisha mess

up Okay, don't don't play with me about

575

no Keisha Now shit enough is it somebody

576

rob: don't play about the bay area queen

577

a payne: Somebody somebody on twitter

don't say but monica can't sing.

578

I said monica

579

rob: Now monica can sing

580

a payne: for sure monica can sing her

butt off and shout out to brandy as well

581

now brandy I feel like she has a more

versatile style and voice and she can

582

rob: stand by i'll stand behind

her brandy for sure I can't

583

face versatility, vocal control.

584

She got it for sure.

585

Yeah.

586

a payne: But we're not going

to say Monica can't sing.

587

Yeah.

588

rob: Monica can sing.

589

I would, I would, I would dare to say I

could put a Monica over a Keshia Cole.

590

Man.

591

a payne: It's not, I can't.

592

I can't pick, but as a child,

I actually wanted to be Monica.

593

Like

594

rob: I could

595

a payne: really sing y'all

y'all check out my shit, man.

596

But

597

rob: we definitely, we go right.

598

That's going to blow us up

599

a payne: for sure.

600

As a kid, like I was like,

Oh my gosh, I love usher.

601

I love Monica.

602

I just love the whole era of music.

603

Like.

604

That nineties, it was like

605

rob: riff.

606

Real nineties era.

607

Nineties.

608

Early 2000.

609

Early two thousands.

610

Yeah.

611

I had

612

a payne: no, no business

listening to It's a cool girl,

613

like, mom, can I borrow your cd?

614

She like, yeah.

615

rob: It was a different vibe back then.

616

Like vibe.

617

A totally different vibe

than like what you would like

618

even now I feel like 'cause.

619

Even on the radio.

620

I feel like they like five, 10 years back

621

It's just a different vibe

of the music that you hear,

622

like coming out, like Right.

623

The newest CDs that are coming,

you know, or cd the newest tapes

624

that's coming out are albums.

625

Right.

626

You know what I mean?

627

Right.

628

a payne: The eps and the, and

the streaming, you know, like the

629

whole it's really changed the game.

630

I really just, I love just.

631

R& B, but I also I'm not gonna cap like

I love some rap and things like that But

632

I just love one of my favorite rappers is

Roddy Ricch like one of the newer rappers

633

and stuff He's hella dope to me but I

just like people who like you can to me

634

you can kind of tell like If a person is

being authentic or they're being trendy to

635

me, I mean, I don't know maybe I don't I

don't know It's like I just don't want to

636

hear no You know, shout out Stacey Redd.

637

I respect her hustle her grind,

but personally i'm not seeing

638

a Listen to a whole car right?

639

It's 60 red.

640

I might play a couple of songs.

641

I'm not going to catch.

642

You do got some

643

rob: cool little.

644

If she came on in the club or

something, like I'm not going to leave

645

the dance floor, but like, right.

646

I'm never gonna download one of her songs.

647

No, you know what i'm

648

a payne: saying?

649

It's just not it don't I don't relate

but you know, it's like oh you old head.

650

I'm like, bitch.

651

I am not old like No, well,

652

rob: I'm just real particular

about like And exactly.

653

I try to remember when I was 18, 19,

20, but then I also, I'm just like,

654

I'm just real particular about the

vibes and what I put into my body.

655

If I'm a, if I'm cool with

somebody screaming, whatever

656

she's saying at me, then I'm cool

with saying it, which I'm not.

657

Right?

658

Like, otherwise why am I listening to it?

659

You know what I mean?

660

Cause I just like her personality.

661

Even if I'm saying it back to myself

in my head, you know what I'm saying?

662

I am saying it.

663

So it's like, I don't

want that kind of energy.

664

I feel it.

665

a payne: I feel it.

666

You so mature now.

667

I'm not going to cap like it.

668

It's not even that I listen to her.

669

It's like if you're on TikTok and

you'd be like beating that ass up.

670

Oh wait.

671

The kids, right?

672

rob: Exactly.

673

But

674

a payne: I don't, I don't listen to that

type of stuff around my kids at all.

675

Like I don't know from my children at

all, but they can, but you know, my older

676

kids, like you kind of can't escape it.

677

Like it's on TikTok.

678

It's on youtube.

679

Exactly.

680

rob: So it's like they listen to worse

music than I I know they do I know

681

a payne: You remember LimeWire

fucked the computers up.

682

rob: And they got worse.

683

They got, they got more new,

better shit than we ever had.

684

That we don't even know nothing.

685

And I'll be like, I know I'm a little hip.

686

I try to stay up on my

trends and everything.

687

And I know I don't know all

the new age, young people shit.

688

Cause I ain't young.

689

Like I'm just not in it like they are.

690

And I know they know how to

keep a decent sized secret.

691

But those from the

nineties be leaking shit.

692

We'll for sure put that shit out,

693

a payne: man.

694

And you know, it's like son, quit crying.

695

See, this is my life.

696

This is, this is my life all

the time, but I don't judge.

697

I don't judge, but I'll say I like art.

698

I like art.

699

I love art.

700

Like Frank Ocean is like really a

big inspo as far as my writing style.

701

I like Frank.

702

I just released the I just released

the EP last summer called Hammer Skate.

703

It's like, it's really, it's the vibes.

704

Like I like different styles.

705

I see that.

706

rob: You got a video to that one, right?

707

a payne: Yeah.

708

That's slow down.

709

But.

710

It's a six track EP and Hammer Skate

is like, basically like, it was it's

711

like Cowskate in Sacramento, but it's

like the one, it's closed down now.

712

It's in Stockton.

713

It was like a coming of age, like, it

was like, basically what was the cast?

714

Like when we

715

rob: used to go hang out at

the stadium, we had Cowskate.

716

He used to pop.

717

a payne: Like, I done been to all the

little skating rinks, but Hammerskate

718

was my local thing, and I just, I had

to tap back into, like, the essence of

719

where I started to have a love for music.

720

Like, I had to tap into my

inner child, like, It's okay

721

to make your inner child happy.

722

Like, don't ever forget that guys.

723

Like, yes, we're grown.

724

Yes, we have responsibilities

and kids and bills.

725

Aha, who gives a fuck?

726

I have to do what makes me happy.

727

So I'm really proud of that project.

728

And I've been getting good reviews.

729

I've been, you know, rocking shows.

730

In Sacramento, Oakland, freaking Modesto.

731

Like it's, I've been pushing it, like just

all self promotion and, but shout out to

732

Emo, he's based in Sacramento as well.

733

He's like, basically like one of

the staples and like my, like, he's

734

like a big brother in music and I

really appreciate that he gave me.

735

He just, he's really cool.

736

He works with anybody and everybody,

as long as you do good business.

737

And we got some, you know,

so if I send you the email,

738

don't be playing no games now.

739

Like, don't mess up my referral

if I send you there, but he's

740

a really good friend of mine.

741

He's given me opportunities throughout the

years, as far as like, I got to perform

742

at one of his birthday shows years ago,

and no one knew who the hell I was, but

743

he just respected my hustle and my grind.

744

So it's like, I really take.

745

relationships, like organic relationships,

personal, especially in this music shit,

746

because it's hard to, you know, run

across people that really just want to

747

keep in music and not on the messy shit.

748

So,

749

rob: yeah, no, I know.

750

I'm sure you run into that as a female,

you know, dudes that want to, you know,

751

a payne: I ain't gonna go if I'm married

752

rob: now.

753

Yeah, favorite type shit, you know.

754

Oh, there ain't no favorite,

755

a payne: bro.

756

Right.

757

I mean, I was young.

758

You know what I'm saying?

759

Shit, we all do some shit.

760

You know what I mean?

761

I don't know what it is

to survive and survive.

762

You know what I'm saying?

763

Right.

764

I was young.

765

Right.

766

I'm married now.

767

And my lawyer said I can't

talk about it no more.

768

rob: Damn.

769

And so, do that be hubby in the videos?

770

a payne: Yes.

771

That's my husband.

772

rob: So he supports you and

the videos and the music and

773

the entrepreneurship ventures.

774

a payne: Yes, and we actually

775

Oh, that's dope.

776

We met at a rap battle that

we were both on the deal.

777

rob: Oh, y'all was both, John, and who

778

a payne: won?

779

No, I didn't.

780

Actually, my opponent

ended up not showing up.

781

And his did too.

782

So he, like, it was like,

kind of like a wild card.

783

I gotta buy?

784

Okay.

785

No, no, no.

786

He got to, they like, basically

whoever showed up, it was

787

like a wild card type thing.

788

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

789

He was battling.

790

My opponent didn't show up,

so I ended up freestyling.

791

I don't even rap, like, but

that's how much I love music.

792

I'm like, fuck it.

793

Yeah, yeah, fuck.

794

I would show up and make it happen.

795

So it was like yeah, we met in 2018

and then we were friends for two years.

796

Then 2020 rolled around, we started

dating, we dated for five months,

797

got married, been married almost four

years now, so that's our love story,

798

but you know, it's hard, especially,

you know, being musicians together,

799

like it's, it's hard, I don't know,

I've always kind of dated guys that do

800

music or involved in music, producer,

whatever, and it's kind of hard to work

801

with people that have control issues.

802

It's for, you know what I mean?

803

It's like, this ain't no iQtina type shit,

but I'm saying like, it's a lot of people

804

that like, It's a lot of people that

like to put a cap on your creativity or,

805

you know, it's okay if, you know, you're

doing hooks and stuff for them, but as

806

soon as you want to step out and do your

own thing, it's a problem type thing.

807

We got an issue.

808

Right.

809

And I feel like I've never been like that.

810

Like my daughter's dad, we started

out doing music together as well.

811

He got, he helped me get into like

recording and things like that nature.

812

I had never recorded.

813

I've always written like poems and

hooks and stuff like that, but I

814

never had a studio access to a studio.

815

So we're, we ain't on the best terms, but

you know, I am appreciative of the things

816

that he showed me and, you know, I tried,

817

rob: I mean, some people's first season,

some people, you know, that's that.

818

And that's all

819

a payne: I pick up,

Sam, but as far as like.

820

Musically and romantically,

it's not easy for couples.

821

I will say, we're not big time yet,

but I feel like in my heart and my

822

soul, it's like, I'm gonna let you

express yourself the way you want to.

823

And it's hard to not take it.

824

Being a musician that said your

partner don't take a song personal

825

or they feel like, Oh, you're

talking about something else.

826

But when I, when I have that

understanding, when I compose

827

a song, it's an experience.

828

In my romantic life, period.

829

So, fuck it.

830

Right, right, right.

831

I can't help, I can't, I can't.

832

Hinder my creativity with the partner.

833

And this is the first time I've

actually been able to express

834

myself and we have disagreements.

835

And he's like, who the

hell did I tell him about?

836

I'm like, babe, it's not about no one.

837

No, I'm just kidding.

838

He's hella cool.

839

But yeah, he's, he's been in

the battle scene, actually.

840

We're both from Stockton and stuff.

841

So he's, he's a little older than me.

842

So he was like doing like the rap

battles in the jungle back in the day.

843

I wasn't doing music, music at the time.

844

So it was like, In

845

rob: that capacity.

846

Right.

847

Okay.

848

Okay.

849

What were we talking about?

850

We were doing what?

851

I don't know.

852

a payne: Inspirations.

853

Oh yeah.

854

Inspirations.

855

Well, like I have many inspirations.

856

I feel like My personal romance

experience, like, from Heartbreak or,

857

you know, Love, you know, the whole

fuzzy honeymoon phase shit that's like,

858

inspires, like, a lot of my music.

859

I didn't really know how to, like,

write from that, yeah, the lyrics.

860

I didn't know how to write from that

standpoint, because I was young,

861

I really didn't experience What I

thought was heartbreaking until I did.

862

I'm like, Oh, but it's

for me, it's therapy.

863

And you know, it's unfortunate.

864

Like when you do do R and B or you

do like singing stuff, it was like,

865

I can't wait till she get her heart

broke again so I can get a new album.

866

But you know, Let's

867

rob: go.

868

Well, you learn, I think you learn how to

like just revisit those places, understand

869

those emotions on a deeper level so

that you can conjure it, you know, at

870

will versus having to experience it.

871

But experiences are the best teachers and

the best narrators for lyrics for sure.

872

Cause you can, somebody could

explain to you how much it hurt,

873

but until you feel it yourself,

you don't know how deep that hurt

874

a payne: is, man.

875

Well, like, you know, a lot of times.

876

As I, you know, I'll be watching like,

you know, self help podcast and stuff.

877

A lot of times, you know, we, we as

women and men, we fall in love with

878

the idea of a person or the potential

of a person and what we could see

879

them being and stuff like that.

880

And then when, when it's not that when

reality sets in, it's like, this is

881

really how this person is like, Oh my God,

like, but I'm saying it's a part of life.

882

It's a lot of love and

experience, but I I'm blessed

883

to be able to reflect on things.

884

and be able to convey it in a way where

it's not, I'm, I'm not here to promote

885

like, niggas ain't shit and all that shit.

886

Cause I mean, we all ain't shit at

some point, but I really want to

887

just, that's why I love 90s and early

888

It could be a terrible story, but it's

the way it's laid and conveyed and I,

889

I do music myself, but I would love

to write for other people and like

890

collaborate with other writers as well.

891

Like that's really my goal ultimately.

892

It's like, I personally do enjoy doing

music myself, but I'm not opposed

893

to writing for other people because

I feel like my pen is strong and

894

I'm working on a new project now.

895

I can't give y'all too many

details yet until it's all like,

896

you know, the final stages.

897

But I definitely am being more consistent

with my music, like I've been dropping

898

since last summer, and it feels great, it

feels wonderful, like, I had to take some

899

time and step back and recalibrate and do

900

rob: my shit.

901

What's the vision for

the music moving forward?

902

Like what do you, what do

you see yourself a year, two

903

a payne: years?

904

Oh honey, I see myself.

905

Like I said, I see myself

being in, in rooms with people

906

writing for other artists.

907

I definitely see myself overseas

cause I, I have different genres now.

908

I don't just come with R and B.

909

I love EDM.

910

I love pop.

911

I love, I do love rock and roll.

912

That's the way to go.

913

I haven't got a chance to work

with a rock and roll band yet, but

914

that's definitely something I'm

speaking into existence and hit her

915

rob: up.

916

We going, we going, you

917

a payne: know, you know, so Like

I said, if you need hooks versus,

918

you know, mama got to pay some

bills, but I don't charge too much.

919

It's going to be worth every penny, but

like at the same token, like if we can

920

make a classic record and stuff like that,

the money's going to come eventually.

921

So.

922

I produce.

923

rob: We gonna have to do something.

924

Okay, okay.

925

Let's get it.

926

For sure.

927

I've been telling everybody that, that

knows that I, you know, cause I have

928

a lot of clients that I, I just worked

with me for years and they know how I

929

work, which is I'll just take a year off.

930

Like I'll just stop doing that.

931

Cause I make music cause I like

to make music, not cause of.

932

It makes me hella money, which if

I'm doing it consistently, it can

933

make me a decent amount of money,

but I've never done it to make money.

934

So like, I'll just stop.

935

It's

936

a payne: literally therapy for me.

937

I know that I I've, I've sold features

and stuff before like that, but some

938

people didn't use them, whatever.

939

That's, that's the thing, whatever,

because a lot, a lot of my music.

940

And now I'm more selective on who I

work with as well because don't get

941

me wrong, like Northern California,

you know, people have they vibe and

942

they gangsta stuff, which is fine.

943

But me personally, if I can't relate

to it or stuff like that, I'm not

944

gonna, I don't want to contribute to

that record because it's not going

945

to coincide with the vision you have.

946

So I understand that.

947

Right.

948

And

949

rob: there's a few people there.

950

That's an easy way to look at it.

951

Like, I can't even, I don't

see where you going with it.

952

I can't relate to it.

953

So how could I further, you

know what I mean, further that?

954

Right, right.

955

So I can respect that.

956

a payne: Yeah, so you know, I, I, I just,

you know, I love, I love music and I'm not

957

opposed to working with different artists

and different genres and stuff like that.

958

Like, I love, like, there's 90s

R& B, there's R& B and shit.

959

Like, I have, that's what, on this

project, On my last project too, I had

960

some like some EDM tempo stuff, but on

this project it's a little more intimate,

961

and basically kind of, like, diving into

my shit, my heartbreak, man, and, and,

962

like, I'm married now, but I, I, I'm so

grateful to have a patient partner, and

963

he understands that, you know, like,

this is literally therapy for me, and,

964

you know, and nothing's perfect, no

relationship is perfect, but I try to it.

965

Encouraging as well.

966

Like just speak your truth.

967

You don't have to be like anybody else.

968

And that's for any artists

coming up, speak your truth,

969

speak what's true to you.

970

Right.

971

Or, you know, be the voice for

someone else, you know, close to you.

972

They don't know how to

convey that certain message.

973

I just feel like music has lost not

all artists because there's still

974

some very amazing artists out.

975

Which is why I'm so proud that, like,

Killer Mike finally won his award, and

976

Victoria Monet, she won, and SZA won,

and, like, real artists still, yeah,

977

real artists still exist, and it's like,

we just need support, and, you know,

978

the young kids don't like what they

like, but I'm saying, I'm making music

979

for a more mature audience, it's not

necessarily age bracket or nothing, I'm

980

just making more musical substance, and

I'm not gonna say I don't make music.

981

Sexy stuff or you know, might have

a cuss word here and there, but I

982

really wanna use my vocabulary because

I have an . I might say so much.

983

rob: She's impeccable.

984

. No, you do.

985

You, you, you're well articulated.

986

I can definitely thank you.

987

You know, there's, there's you, you,

you, you put time into your craft,

988

which is appreciated by those of us

who do consume your music and Right.

989

Why?

990

I will say, keep doing it.

991

Keep, keep.

992

Thank you.

993

Keep putting good music out.

994

I like to ask all my guests if there

is a, a piece of advice, something

995

that you've learned along the way

that's, that's helped you, right?

996

What would you like to give to the

audience that will help them on their

997

entrepreneurial journeys, whether

it's music, business, service,

998

products, whatever the case may be,

what would you like to help them with?

999

a payne: I would say, Honestly, I would

say, like, put God first, honestly,

00:43:04,125 --> 00:43:07,825

like, let him be your strength and

your rock and don't let other people,

00:43:07,835 --> 00:43:12,095

don't let the opinions of other

people that, we all have visions.

00:43:12,445 --> 00:43:17,795

No one can see our vision but us when it's

not externally put into the universe yet.

00:43:18,340 --> 00:43:24,100

Believe in your vision, trust your vision,

and just pray, pray, pray, and get around

00:43:24,110 --> 00:43:28,400

people that are further, they're doing

similar things, they may be further ahead

00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,330

than you, and it's okay to have mentors,

it's okay to have people that show you the

00:43:32,330 --> 00:43:36,680

ropes, it's okay to be, I guess, an intern

of the game, you know what I'm saying?

00:43:36,690 --> 00:43:40,370

It's like I said, you want to be a boss,

but you gotta learn, we have to learn from

00:43:40,370 --> 00:43:43,970

somebody, we don't just wake up freaking

knowing what the hell we're doing.

00:43:45,140 --> 00:43:46,610

It was like, it's okay to intern.

00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,520

It's like the money,

the money is important.

00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,530

Don't get me wrong,

but it's going to come.

00:43:50,820 --> 00:43:52,470

It's about how you show up.

00:43:52,780 --> 00:43:57,400

It's about being on time, being

professional, not being, you know,

00:43:57,460 --> 00:43:59,270

slizzards I didn't been all through that.

00:43:59,270 --> 00:44:00,310

I'm saying like, I really.

00:44:01,595 --> 00:44:03,145

I overcame so many things.

00:44:03,145 --> 00:44:04,165

I overcame heartbreak.

00:44:04,165 --> 00:44:05,255

I overcame addiction.

00:44:05,255 --> 00:44:10,095

I, I overcame a lot of things in my

young life that I didn't understand.

00:44:10,095 --> 00:44:13,005

And I was in a party

scene, whatever that shit.

00:44:13,165 --> 00:44:17,195

But when it comes to my family, my kids,

like that's the most important thing.

00:44:17,215 --> 00:44:22,435

And I want to do my music now

that I'm, I used to do X pills.

00:44:22,775 --> 00:44:25,795

Like I was like in the bill and feeling

myself for hella years and shit,

00:44:26,425 --> 00:44:28,085

but I'm almost four years clean now.

00:44:28,605 --> 00:44:33,985

And That was a whole fuckin

life shifting experience because

00:44:33,985 --> 00:44:35,665

I got ahold of some bad shit.

00:44:36,535 --> 00:44:38,985

And I got, I had to go to the hospital.

00:44:39,195 --> 00:44:40,435

Like, I almost died off that shit.

00:44:41,325 --> 00:44:44,855

So, if I could give a piece

of advice to anybody, like,

00:44:45,075 --> 00:44:46,945

stay focused, keep God first.

00:44:48,025 --> 00:44:49,605

Stay away from the jokers, man.

00:44:49,705 --> 00:44:50,554

That's all I can say.

00:44:50,915 --> 00:44:54,905

Stay away from the jokers, man, because

these niggas, you know what I'm saying?

00:44:55,065 --> 00:44:56,945

I'm not telling people you

won't do what they want to do.

00:44:56,945 --> 00:44:58,635

You know, the party scene,

people want to do what they

00:44:58,635 --> 00:44:58,995

rob: want to do.

00:44:58,995 --> 00:45:00,025

But yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:45:00,025 --> 00:45:03,025

The best, the best teacher is experience.

00:45:03,035 --> 00:45:03,895

So, you know what I'm saying?

00:45:03,895 --> 00:45:06,255

If you can't learn from somebody

telling you, you're going to go

00:45:06,255 --> 00:45:07,355

out there and bump your head.

00:45:07,355 --> 00:45:07,935

You know what I'm saying?

00:45:08,425 --> 00:45:10,065

Then you'll have this car and you'll know,

00:45:11,275 --> 00:45:13,285

a payne: I'm just saying a lot

of people don't get the chance

00:45:13,285 --> 00:45:14,415

to bounce back from that shit.

00:45:14,415 --> 00:45:16,735

Either they, you know, they're

meant to be prepared for the

00:45:16,735 --> 00:45:18,185

rest of their life or they die.

00:45:18,635 --> 00:45:19,245

Right.

00:45:19,985 --> 00:45:25,945

And, Yeah, I almost died out that

shit, like, I was like, fuck, like, I

00:45:25,955 --> 00:45:30,355

guess I was having an active overdose,

but I didn't, I didn't, I didn't

00:45:30,365 --> 00:45:33,975

pass out, but I was like, fucking, so

out of my mind, like, people telling

00:45:33,975 --> 00:45:37,765

me I'm doing shit, I'm like, no, I

didn't do that, I just blacked out

00:45:37,765 --> 00:45:41,025

for like, fucking four days, and I'm

like, what the fuck, where am I at?

00:45:41,085 --> 00:45:43,145

Like, that shit ain't cool, man, fuck.

00:45:43,215 --> 00:45:43,645

Nah.

00:45:43,675 --> 00:45:44,375

Don't do drugs,

00:45:44,375 --> 00:45:44,835

rob: kids.

00:45:45,450 --> 00:45:47,880

Well, we and all the fans

are happy you are here.

00:45:48,030 --> 00:45:50,460

We are happy that you have turned

your life around and you are

00:45:50,460 --> 00:45:52,250

giving us this amazing music.

00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,190

As I said Auntie,

00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:54,880

a payne: just drink a little wine now,

00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:55,560

rob: that's all.

00:45:55,610 --> 00:45:56,800

Ain't nothing wrong with a little wine.

00:45:57,180 --> 00:45:58,340

They say it's good for your heart, right?

00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:58,910

Yeah.

00:45:58,910 --> 00:45:59,320

Yeah.

00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:00,120

Lives a day.

00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:01,000

You know?

00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,475

But That's a pain.

00:46:02,515 --> 00:46:03,495

This is dope for life.

00:46:03,545 --> 00:46:05,005

And this is the hybrid view podcast.

00:46:05,015 --> 00:46:05,925

Thank you for tuning in.

00:46:05,935 --> 00:46:11,645

Make sure you like subscribe, comment,

all that good jazz for the YouTube

00:46:11,645 --> 00:46:12,965

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00:46:12,975 --> 00:46:13,655

And it's free.

00:46:13,675 --> 00:46:14,825

Don't don't sleep on

00:46:14,825 --> 00:46:17,354

a payne: support.

00:46:17,355 --> 00:46:18,295

Thank you so much.

00:46:18,295 --> 00:46:19,045

I appreciate it.

00:46:19,445 --> 00:46:19,685

Check

00:46:19,685 --> 00:46:23,075

rob: out a pain everywhere

you can download music.

00:46:23,075 --> 00:46:23,255

Stop.

00:46:23,585 --> 00:46:24,365

Don't be dumb.

00:46:24,455 --> 00:46:25,525

Like type the name in.

00:46:25,595 --> 00:46:26,995

Y'all know, y'all know,

00:46:27,745 --> 00:46:28,415

a payne: y'all know I'm the

00:46:28,415 --> 00:46:29,545

rob: crazy lady on the internet.

00:46:30,275 --> 00:46:31,275

Visuals is crazy.

00:46:31,285 --> 00:46:32,505

Music is crazy.

00:46:32,735 --> 00:46:35,065

And do you got anything

dropping in the near future?

00:46:35,225 --> 00:46:39,815

a payne: I do have, I do have some,

I don't have a set date, but I am

00:46:39,835 --> 00:46:42,285

almost done with like my first album.

00:46:42,295 --> 00:46:44,725

Like I have an album

length worth of music.

00:46:44,925 --> 00:46:47,695

So I'm trying to, you know,

I'm trying to wrap it up.

00:46:48,785 --> 00:46:53,365

I want to say late summer, maybe early

fall, cause I really don't want to

00:46:53,495 --> 00:46:55,375

rob: summer jam, we got a

summer jam coming hopefully.

00:46:55,375 --> 00:46:56,904

Oh yeah, I'm gonna drop

in, I got a single.

00:46:56,905 --> 00:46:59,868

If not, we gonna have a breezy

fall, you know what I'm saying.

00:46:59,868 --> 00:47:01,665

a payne: But look, I just

dropped, I just dropped my latest

00:47:01,665 --> 00:47:02,775

single, it's called The Low.

00:47:02,775 --> 00:47:04,455

That's T H E L O.

00:47:04,455 --> 00:47:10,985

So, if you got me on my Instagram is A P

A Y N E music, spelled the regular way.

00:47:10,985 --> 00:47:13,245

You can go on there,

all my links are there.

00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,680

So you can see my latest

singles, albums, all that stuff.

00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:17,660

So thank

00:47:17,660 --> 00:47:18,000

rob: you so much.

00:47:18,060 --> 00:47:19,820

And what's your Instagram, Tik

00:47:19,820 --> 00:47:20,580

a payne: TOK, all that good stuff.

00:47:20,740 --> 00:47:21,160

Oh yeah.

00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,340

Oh, so my Instagram is a pain music

and my Tik TOK is a pain music.

00:47:25,350 --> 00:47:28,080

That's P a Y and E music one one six.

00:47:28,590 --> 00:47:29,860

Twitter is the same one.

00:47:30,290 --> 00:47:30,560

Okay.

00:47:30,620 --> 00:47:32,290

Tanya Chamberlain on Facebook.

00:47:33,020 --> 00:47:33,690

It's me.

00:47:33,690 --> 00:47:35,580

Yeah, it's all good.

00:47:37,050 --> 00:47:39,110

rob: Well, that is it, folks.

00:47:39,110 --> 00:47:40,690

I appreciate you for staying this long.

00:47:40,690 --> 00:47:43,730

If you have, make sure,

like, comment, subscribe.

00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:44,660

We love you.

00:47:45,630 --> 00:47:45,860

Peace.