"My greatest takeaway was that no matter where I am in life, no matter how old I get, I will always find time for moments like this to share my knowledge with someone else."
– Rochelle Bradshaw
From touring with reggae royalty to calling Northwest Arkansas home, Rochelle Bradshaw has lived a life in music that most artists only dream about.
In this episode, Randy sits down with the Jamaican-born singer-songwriter to trace her journey from Portland, Jamaica, to the stages she shared with the Marley family and other reggae legends, and ultimately to the Ozarks, where she's building something entirely her own.
Rochelle doesn't hold back. She talks about what it's really like working with icons, navigating the disruptions of COVID-19, and releasing her debut solo album, Island Girl at 50—a milestone that came with its own set of challenges and triumphs. She also shares how she's blending her music career with her work as a brand ambassador at The Source Dispensary in Rogers, proving that creative careers rarely look the way we expect.
This conversation touches on mentor Joseph Israel's lasting impact, the realities of being a working artist, and why community matters when you're chasing big dreams. Whether you're a music fan, a creative trying to figure out your path, or just someone who loves a good story, this episode delivers.
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Hey, folks, it's Randy Wilburn here, and you're listening to the I Am
Speaker:Northwest Arkansas podcast. Listen. I've got a really special
Speaker:guest on the show today, Rochelle Bradshaw. She's a
Speaker:singer, a songwriter, and a creative force who's brought her
Speaker:Jamaican roots right here to Northwest Arkansas. You might know
Speaker:her from her work with the Marley family, or maybe you've caught her
Speaker:live around town. Either way, her story is
Speaker:one worth hearing. We're going to talk about music, her
Speaker:new album, her journey, and what it means to create
Speaker:and grow right here in our backyard. Let's get into it.
Speaker:It's time for another episode of I Am Northwest
Speaker:Arkansas, the podcast covering the intersection of
Speaker:business, culture, entrepreneurship, and life
Speaker:general here in the Ozarks. Whether you are considering a move
Speaker:to this area or trying to learn more about the place you call home,
Speaker:we've got something special for you. Here's our host,
Speaker:Randy Wilbur, Rochelle Bradshaw.
Speaker:How are you doing today? Can I just say irie,
Speaker:Irie, irie. I like that. I like that. Well, listen, I am
Speaker:glad. Well, we took our time to connect before this, as I
Speaker:always typically do, just to put my guests at ease and
Speaker:learn a little bit more about them. And I was really excited to hear from
Speaker:you. And first and foremost, I just. I'm gonna just put this. Get this out
Speaker:of the way now. I gotta give a shout out to my girl, Shelly Muber,
Speaker:who recommended. She kept saying, you gotta have Rochelle on
Speaker:your podcast. You gotta have her on the podcast. And I'm like, okay, we'll work
Speaker:it out. And I'm so thankful for Shelly. Shelly's.
Speaker:Actually, Shelly was on my podcast, and it was the only podcast title
Speaker:that had the words Wu Tang in it. But that just
Speaker:tells you you need to go back and listen to it. And I'll reference that
Speaker:podcast here in the show notes. But seriously, though,
Speaker:Shelly has been amazing. She is responsible for some of the
Speaker:artwork that people have seen. She took my logo and
Speaker:took all of the different people that I've had on the podcast, all of
Speaker:their logos, and then created my logo with those logos. It was
Speaker:amazing. So I really appreciate Shelly so much, but
Speaker:I appreciate her because she has connected me with amazing guests.
Speaker:And so obviously, you're gonna be no exception to that rule. So
Speaker:we're just glad to have you here today. Thank you. And thank you, Shelly. Shout
Speaker:out, Shelley. Yes. Yeah, she's great, actually. Her artwork is
Speaker:amazing. I will put a link to her artwork in there, too. But this episode
Speaker:is about Rochelle, I promise. And so listen Rochelle, I
Speaker:know that one of the things that we learned when we had a chance to
Speaker:talk was that you came to Northwest Arkansas from Portland,
Speaker:Jamaica, back in 2005. What brought you here
Speaker:originally? What brought me here originally?
Speaker:Not in 05, originally. I came here, like, a few
Speaker:years prior. Music brought me here. I was on tour
Speaker:with a singer. His name is Luciano. Wonderful
Speaker:singer. I was on tour with him, and I think we played at
Speaker:Chester's on Dixon. Okay. And then.
Speaker:Then I met Joseph Israel on the road while touring with
Speaker:Luciano. And he's from here? Yes. Yeah, he
Speaker:lived here in Fayetteville, Arkansas. You know, I know some of his family.
Speaker:Sarah Fennell, Restore Humanity. Joe Fennell, you know,
Speaker:Bordino's. So I met him on the road. He invited me to come
Speaker:back here to rehearse because I agreed to go on a small
Speaker:tour with him one summer. And so I was here for, like, two
Speaker:weeks, hanging out. It was not the Chancellor, the
Speaker:Graduate Hotel. It was the Radisson, I think, at that time.
Speaker:It's changed names so many times. Yeah, the Graduate, it's current
Speaker:incarnation. So it's been there, though. And, like,
Speaker:I stayed at that hotel and walked around downtown and
Speaker:ate at the Thai restaurant. I remember it so well.
Speaker:This was in, like, 2004. Oh, a lot has changed since. A
Speaker:lot has changed. Yeah. Yeah. So I went on the road with Joseph Israel, and
Speaker:while in California, he introduced me to his friend Hadi,
Speaker:that was living out there now, but was from here, and they went to school
Speaker:together, and he kind of introduced us with the
Speaker:intent of us getting together. And. And that did happen.
Speaker:So that's how I ended up coming back here. So he was responsible
Speaker:for you guys getting together. Okay, very cool. So before
Speaker:we go further, I'd love for your just
Speaker:memory of Joseph Israel. And I've heard so much
Speaker:about him. Sarah has talked about him. I've seen so many references
Speaker:to him around town. What was so special
Speaker:about him that people should know about that
Speaker:on this podcast? That's an easy answer. To
Speaker:me, Joseph Israel was truth. He was a
Speaker:very honest being. Like, the
Speaker:words that would come out of his mouth, he was living
Speaker:it, and you could tell. And even if he
Speaker:moved on to some other belief or the belief advanced in
Speaker:some way, he would live that. If he believed it and
Speaker:if he was saying it to you, he was living it. And he's one of
Speaker:the few people that I ever met in my 50 years
Speaker:on this earth that I say that about. And, like, I get
Speaker:goosebumps thinking about him, like just great conversations because it came
Speaker:from a place of truth. Yeah. You know, and it's wild because, like
Speaker:I said, my only knowledge of him is through Sarah
Speaker:and through Boo Buchanan and her family
Speaker:and just like hearing anecdotes here or there, but never like a full,
Speaker:full blown, hey, this is who Joseph Israel is. And this is what he's all
Speaker:about. And so, you know, it's kind of nice hearing that. And I'm sure some
Speaker:people listening to this are familiar with him. And I know that there have been
Speaker:a couple of events honoring his memory. And
Speaker:so I may have to have Sarah come on and do an episode. Yes,
Speaker:we should. And talk about him. So maybe we'll have to work
Speaker:that out. I'm sure Sarah's gonna be listening to this. Sarah, if you're listening,
Speaker:you know, talk to me later. We'll figure something out. I would love to
Speaker:share that because the embodiment, the cool thing is that
Speaker:he came from northwest Arkansas and he went to the world. Yes. And
Speaker:so that was the thing. It's like sometime we hear stories about people
Speaker:that you think, oh, well, they're pigeonholed into one place. But then some people get
Speaker:released into the world. He's wonderful and he belongs
Speaker:to all of us. And like, I have so many stories, but I mean, that's
Speaker:another. Yeah, yeah, like I said, we'll definitely do that. But I will
Speaker:say, like, a few months ago in the summer, I got the
Speaker:opportunity to perform at Gully Park. Gully Park
Speaker:Concert series, which Shelly was also instrumental
Speaker:in. That's Shelly. Boy, she's busy in the
Speaker:background. She's so busy. She's a loner. Yes.
Speaker:But like, when I was putting together my set list for
Speaker:that event, the first thing that came to mind was I have to
Speaker:do one of Joseph's songs. Okay. I must. He's the reason why
Speaker:I'm here and around and surrounded by all
Speaker:these wonderful folks that I choose to call this place home. I
Speaker:have no intentions of leaving northwest Arkansas. Wonderful.
Speaker:And so I had to remember him on
Speaker:that day. Wow. I heard about that. Yeah. I
Speaker:remember Boo saying that it was kind of a
Speaker:teary eyed moment for Sarah and for others
Speaker:that were there that remembered him. And so I thought that was special. I
Speaker:could actually hear the music because I live within earshot of Gully park,
Speaker:so I didn't come that night, but I could actually hear the music. I could
Speaker:hear the bass. I could hear the bass. And I was like, oh, they are
Speaker:jamming tonight in Gully Park. And that's one of the things I
Speaker:think that makes northwest Arkansas so special. Just like what you just
Speaker:said, why you came here, and then you decided never to leave. But
Speaker:northwest Arkansas is the kind of place where you can literally go into a
Speaker:local park and be sitting there and be sitting around. All
Speaker:your neighbors and other people are from around the area in a free open
Speaker:air concert. Yes. So amazing musicians.
Speaker:So. Yeah. So that's very cool. Are you. So now are you. Were you invited
Speaker:back to come and do a gully park again or. I don't know. You don't
Speaker:know. We'll see. Okay, we're going to just put that out, just in case. Yeah,
Speaker:I love that. Okay, so you got here. So you had previously been
Speaker:here. Then you came in 2005. And so like you
Speaker:said, you decided to stay. Was it specifically for
Speaker:you about it? Now, coming from an island, coming from Jamaica. I've been to
Speaker:Jamaica multiple times. It's a beautiful island, beautiful people. I love
Speaker:the mantra of Jamaica. Out of many one. Out of many one.
Speaker:And you know, and I told you some stories about some folks that I know
Speaker:from Jamaica that just their stories have stories, but, you know, it's
Speaker:a beautiful island with beautiful people. And I mean, to leave that to
Speaker:come to northwest Arkansas. Is there anything about northwest Arkansas that reminds you of
Speaker:Jamaica? What reminded me was the sense of community.
Speaker:I could feel that here. A sense of fresh air.
Speaker:Yeah. That I appreciate coming from. You know, I
Speaker:travel a lot. Like, I toured
Speaker:so often. You know, I could have chosen any
Speaker:city, but I'm a country girl at heart, and so I
Speaker:felt that vibe here. Yeah, that vibe reminded
Speaker:me of my island vibe. Right, right. Because that's. Portland is near
Speaker:Port Antonio. Right. Port Antonio is the capital of
Speaker:Portland. Right. Which is the northeast section of Jamaica.
Speaker:Yeah. So. And it's not. It is kind of country up. Oh, it's country. Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, it's very country as. As country can be for Jamaica.
Speaker:And in Portland, it could rain like every single
Speaker:day, but Maybe just like 15, 20 minutes. Sure, sure. Just a
Speaker:quick rain. Yeah. So everything is lush and green and you could smell it.
Speaker:But I was living in Kingston when I met
Speaker:Joseph, and I was happy to not live in a
Speaker:city, a big city like Kingston. Sure. You know, so this was
Speaker:like, okay, this feels like Portland. Right. It reminds you of
Speaker:that. No, that makes sense. Now, you originally had spent some
Speaker:time on the road with the Marley family. You've worked with some major names
Speaker:in reggae. I mean, you just kind of. You kind of subtly name dropped Some
Speaker:names. When we were on our call, I was like, oh, okay, you mentioned Jimmy
Speaker:Cliff. I mean, you mentioned it. And he just rest in peace. He just passed
Speaker:away. But what was that experience been like for you?
Speaker:Just having connections with. I mean, honestly,
Speaker:not just Jamaican, but reggae royalty from
Speaker:a musical perspective. What was that? Those connections? What are those
Speaker:connections like for you? Well, first, I must say, I have. I
Speaker:haven't worked. I never worked with Jimmy Cliff. I just knew him. No, I. Yeah,
Speaker:but the story was great that you shared with me, so. Yeah, that was a
Speaker:sweet story. Yeah. How many people get stuck in a studio with Jimmy Cliff
Speaker:for several hours? Hours. Just talking, Just me and him, like, Mr.
Speaker:Cliff, tell me everything. Tell me everything about life. What was your
Speaker:greatest takeaway from that meeting that you had with him? Oh, my gosh. Just
Speaker:my greatest takeaway was that no matter where
Speaker:I am in life, no matter how old I get, I will always find
Speaker:time for moments like this to share my knowledge with someone
Speaker:else. Yeah. To spend that time and not be on any kind of a high
Speaker:horse. That's what it's all about. Exactly. That's my greatest takeaway was the
Speaker:humility. And just like, you know, like, I want to be that.
Speaker:I mean, it's no surprise that he basically performed close
Speaker:to up until his death. I mean, he was still out there on stage
Speaker:putting it out. I mean, and I have a lot of respect for people, for
Speaker:creators that get out and do their thing. I saw.
Speaker:And this is. This is an aside, but I got to see George Clinton in
Speaker:P Funk, you know, the third iteration of Parliament Funkadelic
Speaker:at JJ's a couple of weeks ago. I missed it. And
Speaker:I gotta say, I mean, George Clinton is in his 80s.
Speaker:And granted, he's not the same George Clinton from the 70s,
Speaker:but I mean, just seeing him on stage. Exactly. Is
Speaker:super encouraging. Exactly. And I'm just like, man, this dude's
Speaker:84 years old out here. I mean, this place was
Speaker:packed. I mean, it was an experience he was living.
Speaker:Yeah. I want to be that. Right, right. Burning Spirit just played at the
Speaker:Momentary. Okay. Recently, he's also up there. He is
Speaker:up there. That's right. And for me, it's Uncle Rodney. So
Speaker:back to your question about just reggae royalty like Burning
Speaker:Spear. Like, I grew up just calling him Uncle Rodney
Speaker:because he rehearsed at my house. Wow. We had a home
Speaker:studio that my dad built, and that's where Burning Spree used to rehearse,
Speaker:you know? So he was just Uncle Rodney. Yeah. And then
Speaker:Garnet Silk. I don't know if you ever heard of Garnet Silk. I have,
Speaker:but when he was big, like, it was my family's band,
Speaker:that was his backing band. And he rehearsed my house.
Speaker:And then one morning, my uncle woke me up. I think I was 17. And
Speaker:he's like, you're singing backups for Garnet Silk. I'm like, okay.
Speaker:So that was it. If you go back and look at
Speaker:Sunsplash, 1994, I'm like, I was so shy. You
Speaker:were there, but I'm there, like, singing my heart out. That's funny. That's funny.
Speaker:I know. So it's like. And then he passed away
Speaker:shortly after. So he was a young legend, you know?
Speaker:So I give thanks. I'm like, I'm happy. I'm so happy that I
Speaker:got a moment with him. Yeah, well, it's called being in the right place
Speaker:at the right time. So. Yeah, no, that definitely benefits
Speaker:you. What was your. Obviously, we have to speak of the
Speaker:Marley family, but how did you connect with them? And you've had a
Speaker:chance to play with. Be on stage with most of them, is that correct?
Speaker:Yeah, so I was on tour. I also toured
Speaker:with Al Anderson and Gina Marvin. The original
Speaker:Wailers. Okay, The Wailers. They separated from the
Speaker:Wailers band, Bob Marley's Wailers. So his two guitar players, they
Speaker:formed their own Wailers band and called it the Original Wailers.
Speaker:And at that moment, I was included in that band
Speaker:because of my friend at the time, Erica Newell, who was
Speaker:a part of the Melody Makers. Ziggy Marley and the Melody Makers. She's one
Speaker:of the singers. You have the two sisters, and then it's Erica. So
Speaker:because of Joseph, I met Erica, and we became friends. And
Speaker:so she invited me to come be a part of the original Wailers.
Speaker:And so I toured with them. And. But Erica was also working with
Speaker:Steven, and when a position became available, she asked me to come
Speaker:join that outfit. The first time she asked, I couldn't because I had another
Speaker:project going on. But then the second time, I was like, heck, yeah. Stephen Marley
Speaker:is my favorite. And so I joined his
Speaker:band in 2012, I want to say, when he
Speaker:released the Fruit of Life album.
Speaker:Okay. Revelation, Part one. And so I've been
Speaker:in his band since mostly. So whenever they go out on the
Speaker:road, you go out or. Yeah. So I've. Yeah, we were. We hit
Speaker:it. Hit the road hard. But once you work with one Marley, you kind of
Speaker:work with them all, because you never know who's going to come, you know? If
Speaker:we're playing in California, Ziggy's going to come. So Ziggy plays. But
Speaker:then they also have the Marley brothers, which is all five
Speaker:brothers. Ziggy Marley, Steven Marley, Damien Marley, Julian
Speaker:Marley, and Kimani Marley. So when they do that, I also perform with
Speaker:them. And then Stephen and Damian have their own project. You know, they
Speaker:have so many songs together. But when they do those tours, I
Speaker:don't get to go on that. Okay. Okay. So they mostly
Speaker:did that last year. So I didn't tour with Steven much last year. Wow. I
Speaker:did one show this spring, his birthday. What's that like?
Speaker:I mean, being in the music industry and just kind of like, it's almost
Speaker:like, you know, you go through these waves or moments where you're like,
Speaker:you're fully busy and then you're not, you know, And. Yeah, so there. These. Did
Speaker:these. Did these pauses there. Yeah. You know,
Speaker:and so what is that like? I'll tell you what that's like. That
Speaker:is why I have so many other
Speaker:projects. You gotta have. Well, I
Speaker:mean. And I mean, I speak. We talk about this all the time. I tell
Speaker:people, yeah, you gotta have multiple streams. You gotta have multiple streams of
Speaker:revenue. You've gotta. You know, you can't rely on one thing. You
Speaker:cannot. You cannot. Because it just. And I think nowadays more
Speaker:than ever, people are starting to realize that. And they're like, you know what? I
Speaker:do need to have a side hustle. I do need to have this. Or listen,
Speaker:I tell my sons this all the time. I was like, you guys might have
Speaker:a career, but I guarantee you, you're going to have a career that's
Speaker:punctuated with a number of side hustles and opportunities
Speaker:where you're going to get to do things that you're really good at. And
Speaker:people will pay you for it. Yes. And, you know, you should take advantage of
Speaker:it. Take advantage of it. Like, I've always been a
Speaker:busybody. I like to learn new things. I like to keep myself,
Speaker:you know, entertained also. Yeah, but when Covid
Speaker:happened, it was a real wake up call. Yeah. When Covid
Speaker:happened, the entertainment industry shut
Speaker:down. It shut down. Other industries were able
Speaker:to slowly come back to. But entertainment is all about
Speaker:socializing, and Covid was anti
Speaker:socializing, so. Well, I think. I think people don't
Speaker:realize that most musicians
Speaker:make their real money on tour. Oh, yeah. Like, period.
Speaker:That's why everybody and their mother wants to go out on tour. Because that's how
Speaker:you make. That's how you really make your money. The only Way right now. Yeah.
Speaker:So, yeah. I mean, that's. And I think people don't always appreciate that. They.
Speaker:They just think, oh, I've listened to your album so many times on Spotify or
Speaker:on Apple Music that. And then it's like, no, you must be making money.
Speaker:Yeah. No, that does not translate that way. I mean, even Taylor
Speaker:Swift goes out the Heiress tour. I mean, it's over now, but I mean, that's
Speaker:why she was on tour. That's why Beyonce was on tour. I mean,
Speaker:that's how they make their money. And they can make a lot of money. They
Speaker:can make a lot of money. Yeah. The GDP of a small nation between
Speaker:Taylor Swift and Beyonce. Oh, my goodness. You know, they. I told
Speaker:somebody I was explaining to somebody, I was like, man, you know, being a roadie
Speaker:with like, Taylor Swift, it's got its benefits. I mean, she gave
Speaker:every single person on her staff, every. And this
Speaker:is everybody from the truck drivers on up. They all got a hundred thousand dollar
Speaker:bonus during the Heiress tour. But I mean, she's
Speaker:super generous, though, anyway. But I mean, you know, it's just. That's.
Speaker:I mean, that's kind of cool when you think about it. Listen, Randy, I was
Speaker:on tour with Stephen Marley while she was on tour,
Speaker:and one of our bus drivers, he was so pissed
Speaker:because he's like, I had the option to do Taylor Swift.
Speaker:Oh, man. And he didn't take it. No. When he heard about
Speaker:that bonus. Oh, my goodness. Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah. So, I mean, those can be life changing for people. I mean,
Speaker:it's like $100,000. That is. It's nothing to sneeze
Speaker:at. And she didn't have to. Yeah. You know? Yeah.
Speaker:So I appreciate her for that. Yep. Yep. So. No, but I mean,
Speaker:there's. That's just something about the music industry. And I know a lot of people
Speaker:that were like, oh, they would dream about getting into this industry, but
Speaker:there is. What people don't see is all the hard work that you put
Speaker:in. All of the hours either behind a console or sitting
Speaker:in a booth like we're sitting in, or, you know, looking at the
Speaker:musicians and another side of. The sound studio rehearsing all night.
Speaker:Yeah. I mean, driving all day in a bus. All night
Speaker:in a bus, trying to sleep in a bunk. Yeah. It's crazy. I was
Speaker:just looking at. Because I was looking at. I'm a big fan of Jamiroquai.
Speaker:Oh, me too. And I wish he'd come back to the States. I know he
Speaker:doesn't listen to my podcast, but for those of you that like Jamiroquai, he. He's
Speaker:been on a. On a huge tour through Europe. But I. What I found
Speaker:out was that he's actually been. You taking a bus from once, because you can
Speaker:do that in Europe, but he's been taking a bus from one city to the
Speaker:next. And that's just kind of how they all stayed together. But after they did
Speaker:Austria, they got in a bus and they went to Italy, you know, and then
Speaker:they did Milan and then Florence and, you know, and so it goes on from
Speaker:there. But I mean, you know, there is a grind aspect to
Speaker:it. Oh. But I also, from what I understand and people that I've talked
Speaker:to that have been on tour like that. There's nothing like it, though. No,
Speaker:there's not. And, you know, I've lived some of my best life on
Speaker:tour and some of my worst. It was challenging for me because I
Speaker:had to figure out how to tour with epilepsy,
Speaker:you know, so in the beginning, that was hard.
Speaker:Had some episodes, but, you know, I had to learn about myself
Speaker:because I was determined to be on tour, to
Speaker:do music, to travel the world. I love traveling.
Speaker:I love new cultures, new people. So there's so many challenges
Speaker:to touring. I had a daughter when I was really young. So,
Speaker:like, being away from her, being away from all of the things
Speaker:in her life, that's hard. Just being away from my
Speaker:family in general. I would go to Jamaica sometimes for one day. I
Speaker:remember this one tour, it was like a nine week tour in Europe.
Speaker:And then I remember, like, flying to Jamaica and we were there for like a
Speaker:day, day and a half, and then I had to start a U.S. tour. Yeah.
Speaker:But now I'm like, those were the good days.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That's amazing. So
Speaker:in all of your travels again, you've hung around reggae
Speaker:royalty, you've gotten Grammy recognition for your
Speaker:work with Burning Spear and Damian Marley. What do moments
Speaker:like that mean to you, both personally and professionally?
Speaker:Because it seems like just the Grammy recognition alone is kind
Speaker:of like a punctuation for you that, okay, this wasn't
Speaker:wasted time, and that I do have something to show for my efforts.
Speaker:Yeah, it's. I don't know. I have a syndrome.
Speaker:You know, what's that? Feeling undeserved. You know,
Speaker:so sometimes it's hard for me to accept certain things,
Speaker:but I do recognize them. You know, I
Speaker:recognize that. Oh, my gosh. I had the opportunity
Speaker:to work closely with these legends. To work.
Speaker:I performed on more than one of Burning Spears albums and Just
Speaker:to be in the studio with him, like, I feel, like, so
Speaker:honored and chosen. Yeah. Yeah. But
Speaker:more than anything, I thank my father. I think
Speaker:because of him, multiple doors were open to me. Is your
Speaker:dad still around? He passed away when I was 16. I'm sorry, what was his
Speaker:name? Anthony Bradshaw. And he was Burning
Speaker:Spears guitarist. And if you
Speaker:watch when I miss him, I go to YouTube and I watch Burning
Speaker:Spear live in Paris, 1988. Oh, wow. It's that Zenith
Speaker:concert. And the first thing you will hear is my father
Speaker:introducing the Burning Spear. When I just need
Speaker:to hear his voice, I go to YouTube. You go to YouTube? And I'm so
Speaker:grateful. I can do that. Like, I mean, it's amazing. I know. I have this
Speaker:feeling about my grandfather because I can go watch some of
Speaker:his old news broadcasts and things of that nature, and it's. I mean,
Speaker:I know he's dead, but, I mean, he's still with me. And every now and
Speaker:then, I'll see, like, a special on Netflix, and then I'll be like, oh, wait,
Speaker:there's my grandfather. I see him and I hear him, and I'm like, oh.
Speaker:And it's crazy to recall, right? Like, as soon as you hear the
Speaker:voice, you're like, right there. It just brings you right back to, like,
Speaker:a moment in time where you can hear and see that person physically in
Speaker:front of you. Yeah. I mean, that's why I tell people all the time. I
Speaker:mean, that's why I really love podcasting, because it's like I'm capturing so many
Speaker:different voices, you know, for hopefully for eternity.
Speaker:Right. That this will always. Somebody in Stardate
Speaker:3029 will be able to access these files and listen to
Speaker:this episode and be like, oh, wow, this is what they were talking about back
Speaker:in 2025. So. But I mean, there's just something about
Speaker:the human voice and that pattern and the recognition
Speaker:that comes along with that. So, yeah, no, it is super
Speaker:powerful. So the Grammy recognition for you was
Speaker:meaningful. And again, like, I would say probably any
Speaker:musician, you suffer for your craft. Right? I mean,
Speaker:you do, right? Because it's like, people don't see the time
Speaker:and effort that goes into the behind the scenes. All we see
Speaker:is once we've given that ticket up to that turnstile and we walk into
Speaker:that venue and see you up on stage. That's it. Yeah. It's
Speaker:like. And that's like. And there's, like, about 95%
Speaker:of all the real work happened before that. It happened before.
Speaker:Yeah. And the other four and A half is going to happen after I get
Speaker:off stage. Right, right, right, right,
Speaker:right. Yeah. That's the short part, being on stage. And I live for
Speaker:that moment. I can imagine. I live for that moment. I got to see
Speaker:you, and I told you this. I got to see you perform at the Jones
Speaker:center and with Shout out to Anthony and
Speaker:Reginald James and those, put together a really nice program,
Speaker:and then you performed. And I mean, it was a real intimate setting. There weren't,
Speaker:like, a lot. Lot of people there. But I mean, you just brought it. I
Speaker:mean, you were just like. You were really. I was really impressed. And again,
Speaker:I didn't know you at the time, and I was just. I love reggae. So
Speaker:I listened to your set, and I was just like, oh, this is really good.
Speaker:And I mean, you were very, you know, very passionate on stage. And I could
Speaker:see again that you really. Not that you just practice, but you really
Speaker:are good at your craft. Thank you. Yeah, I love it. Yeah. So it's
Speaker:good. So speaking of your craft, it took you
Speaker:almost to your age of 50 to release
Speaker:your first solo album. Why was now
Speaker:finally the right time? I get it. As you shared now, you've said, hey,
Speaker:you were out touring, you were out participating on other people's
Speaker:albums. So it's not like you haven't been on an album. You just have not
Speaker:created your first, your only, your. Your album. And so I'm
Speaker:curious to know, why was now the right time to do Island
Speaker:Girl? It was just now. Yeah, it was now. I mean, 50,
Speaker:like, when you're looking at 50, it's like, what's after that?
Speaker:You know? And I wanted to have something for myself
Speaker:to look at, to appreciate that. You know, I've been learning to
Speaker:crochet. Now. Here's the blanket. Right, right. You know, just something like that.
Speaker:Sure. It was a personal goal. And I thought
Speaker:50. It sounded better than 51. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, half
Speaker:a century, you know. Or as I like to say, halftime. Right. Yeah.
Speaker:So now, you guys, the second half that you're about to embark upon.
Speaker:Yeah. And I had time. I had time to do it. Okay.
Speaker:Yeah. I had the time because I didn't tour much last year, and
Speaker:it was like a sense of accomplishment. Like, I didn't just sit around for a
Speaker:year. Sure. You know, and then I. Then 50 slapped me in the face.
Speaker:Like, what have you done? Right. What do you want people to take away
Speaker:from this album? That's a good question. Take away from
Speaker:this album, really? It's just. It's A calm down, a
Speaker:slowdown, chillax. I mean, things don't have to be that
Speaker:serious. Yeah. You know, there are a lot of serious things
Speaker:happening. Sure. But we can actually calm down, calm
Speaker:ourselves down, you know, and that's island time for me.
Speaker:Island time is finding that space where no matter what
Speaker:is happening, I can calm myself down
Speaker:so I can see it, I can look at it. I can deal with what's
Speaker:going on. And so the album, I wanted it short.
Speaker:The tracks are not too long. Yeah. I'm not trying to
Speaker:change the world. Yep. I'm just saying right now, where
Speaker:I am, I'm slowing down, I'm taking it easy, I'm
Speaker:enjoying life. And I see you. And that especially
Speaker:is in the song called Always rb. Because I
Speaker:see you, my friend. And so we're here together at 50.
Speaker:You'll always be my friend. We're gonna take things on island time and
Speaker:deal with life. Yeah, I love that. Did you write all the
Speaker:songs? Yes. My sister and I and my uncle. This whole project
Speaker:was between the three of us, really. Other
Speaker:musicians played, but my sister and I and Uncle Devon, we wrote
Speaker:all the songs on there. And through that process. I mean,
Speaker:nowadays with technology, people don't even have to be in the same room with
Speaker:you to do that. But what was that like? No. Yeah. So
Speaker:the most of the writing, because my sister, she lives in Atlanta. Okay. So I
Speaker:haven't seen her in years. Really? Yeah. Yeah. So it's online. Like,
Speaker:we had our weekly sessions twice a week. We had our
Speaker:writing sessions after work and just, you know,
Speaker:facetiming or just on the phone talking and
Speaker:vibing with stuff. I'd send her an idea and vice
Speaker:versa. And same thing with Uncle Devin, because he's in Jamaica. Sure. So
Speaker:he would. Oh, this melody is cool. And he would send it to me, or
Speaker:I would hum something and send it to him, and he would start creating
Speaker:some music around it. Right. And so we started like that.
Speaker:So we had the, you know, like, the framework of certain songs.
Speaker:And then I went to Jamaica, went home. It's the first time
Speaker:I actually stayed at home in Portland,
Speaker:Jamaica, for two solid weeks. Oh, wow. I visit.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah. But I don't stay. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Like, I'll
Speaker:go to Portland for a day or two. Sure. And most times I stay in
Speaker:a hotel or, you know. But I just went home and
Speaker:just. I didn't rent a car. Yeah. I just stayed home. We get up and
Speaker:we try. My uncle is very, you know, we go to the Studio at
Speaker:this time. So we have breakfast. You know, he does all these things, and then
Speaker:we go in the studio and he has to pray and play his gospel
Speaker:music. And we bless the studio and our intentions. We get
Speaker:started, and then no more than three songs per day. Okay. So
Speaker:we don't want to get overwhelmed. Sure. You know, and so just finding that
Speaker:flow and being with him, because I hadn't spent much time around, and he's my
Speaker:favorite uncle. Yeah. You know, and it just kind of
Speaker:just happened naturally, really. It flowed. The ideas came
Speaker:out, the music came out. We got Dean Fraser and all kinds of
Speaker:amazing musicians to contribute to the tracks.
Speaker:And I did my part, you know, record the
Speaker:vocals and stepped away. Yeah. And I think that is why
Speaker:the album was released, because I did my part and stepped
Speaker:away. Otherwise, I would have kept recording. Right. Or kept
Speaker:meandering editing. I love to edit. Oh, my gosh. Editing is
Speaker:great. Yeah. Right? Yes, man. So.
Speaker:Well, that's exciting. I. I have. I've listened to two
Speaker:songs on. On the. It's. There's nine songs on there. Eleven.
Speaker:Eleven. I'm sorry. Okay, so. And then are any of.
Speaker:If in any of the songs, is there any ode to,
Speaker:like, your time here in Northwest Arkansas? Not
Speaker:particular. I was just curious. So. And it. I mean, it
Speaker:doesn't have to be. Because, I mean, it should be next song. Yeah.
Speaker:Next album, for sure. So now you said that you're
Speaker:more of a recording artist than a performing artist. Can you talk about what
Speaker:that means to you? I love to record. And why is it so funny? You
Speaker:just love the record, so. Yes, because I just said the only reason why the
Speaker:album was released because I walked away. You know, it was not
Speaker:in my hands. Uncle Devin said one thing to me. He
Speaker:said, this album is not your baby. Let it go. Let it go.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, I heard this. I'm gonna tell you, this
Speaker:album is not your baby. Let it go. Because, like, there's so many things
Speaker:I could have fixed, you know, but because I
Speaker:love that process of creating, I have a hard time letting
Speaker:go of that moment. And so someone else has
Speaker:to be like, okay, it's fine. Like, yep, yep,
Speaker:we can do this. We can put it out. Yeah, yeah. So that's why I
Speaker:make that statement, because I find so much joy. No, I
Speaker:hear you. I hear you. And I think the challenge with that is that most
Speaker:of us that are creators, I would like to include myself in that because I
Speaker:create a lot of podcasts. I have to let stuff go all the time and
Speaker:just be like, I just put it out there. Because people are amazed when I
Speaker:tell them. Sometimes I don't go back and listen to my podcast after I've created
Speaker:it. You know, like, I may or may not listen to this one. Right. I
Speaker:have an editor, so. But I mean, I'll just. I mean, I'm only looking at
Speaker:qa, qc. I'm not getting into the. Because, I mean, I'm like, on to
Speaker:the next thing that I'm creating. So as a creator,
Speaker:that's kind of sometimes how it is. Because otherwise you would just be.
Speaker:You'd be paralyzed because you'd just be constantly thinking about that
Speaker:one thing that you created. You're like, oh, I gotta continue. Oh, I can do
Speaker:this, or I can take this away, or I can add this. There's more, man.
Speaker:Yeah, that's called analysis by paralysis. So, you know,
Speaker:but. So let's talk a little bit about your work with
Speaker:the Source Dispensary. Cause I thought that was kind of funny when you told me
Speaker:where you worked. And nothing wrong with the dispenser. There's no judgment here
Speaker:whatsoever. But I'm curious to know, how did that come about and
Speaker:what is your role there at the Source dispensary? And this is the Source
Speaker:dispensary, which is in Rogers. Yes, here in Rogers.
Speaker:My role there now, I am the brand ambassador.
Speaker:I started there during COVID Okay. As I said,
Speaker:you know, music stopped. My brain is churning. Exactly.
Speaker:You know, and cannabis just happens to be
Speaker:my second passion. So. Okay. You know, and
Speaker:with the new industry, I figured I wanted to
Speaker:get into it. I wanted to get into the industry. I wanted to learn.
Speaker:Right. And the only way to do that was
Speaker:to start at a dispensary, probably as a bud tender. And lucky
Speaker:for me, I knew some people that owned a dispensary. There you go. That's
Speaker:what it takes. Yeah. So I just played my case and. You know,
Speaker:and they were like, why not? They're like, how? So clearly you
Speaker:have made an impression because you've created your own line of gummies
Speaker:and vape products. So how involved were you in
Speaker:that process? And for you, what makes those products so
Speaker:different? Well, first, I want to say a big shout out to my
Speaker:CEO, my boss, Mandy Strickland, who
Speaker:gave me the opportunity. You know, I asked because I like to ask.
Speaker:I'm not afraid of hearing a no. So I asked if I
Speaker:could contribute to that department in that way. And I
Speaker:basically, I come up with the recipes. You know, I
Speaker:I do the formulation, and I work it out with
Speaker:our AI and I talk to the lab. Our lab
Speaker:tech, Trevor Sharp, he's amazing. Just to make sure that
Speaker:what I'm imagining, because I'm an artist, you know, it may not
Speaker:work. Right. You know. Right, right. Logistically, these things
Speaker:might not or should not be together, but I wanted to
Speaker:isolate specific cannabinoids for specific
Speaker:effects. Yeah. You know, cbd. Because I have
Speaker:epilepsy, that has helped me a lot. Wow. You know, so I wanted a
Speaker:gummy that was heavy in CBD also. Not just thc,
Speaker:like, you can get high anytime. Right. You know, but. Right. What else is this
Speaker:going to do for you? So I added CBD to that
Speaker:to help with, you know, pain and anxiety and stuff
Speaker:like that. And then I added cbg, which is great for inflammation and
Speaker:just some mental focus. And then the specific terpenes.
Speaker:Just to keep you on island time. Yeah. To create an entourage effect to keep
Speaker:you like this. But not only that. I used to have
Speaker:dreadlocks. So coming from that background as a
Speaker:Rastafarian and a country girl, you know, in Portland,
Speaker:Jamaica, I prefer real food. I prefer
Speaker:natural things. I preferred
Speaker:to not have dyes and all
Speaker:the unnecessary things in what is supposed to be a medical
Speaker:gummy. You know, this is a medical state. So I asked
Speaker:Trevor if there was a way that we could make my gummy
Speaker:as natural as possible, maybe from fruit purees.
Speaker:And so my first Gummy island time, I thought about our
Speaker:Jamaican fruit punch. So there's banana, there's guava, there's
Speaker:mango, there's pineapple, there's coconut. And so we got the fruit purees.
Speaker:Okay. And made that, added in all the
Speaker:cannabinoids and whatever color it came out to be.
Speaker:That's the color. Okay. We use only agave
Speaker:or beet sugar, and we just source
Speaker:the cleanest things. And so. So no FD and C,
Speaker:yellow number 5 and all that other stuff. None of that. They're very
Speaker:vegan. So if you have Alpha Gal, you can still eat one of my gummies.
Speaker:Okay. And so once we did that and we saw the success of that,
Speaker:our CEO is like, all our gummies are going to be made like that now.
Speaker:Wow. So if they all have the same color, that's just.
Speaker:So you really have impacted the brand.
Speaker:I mean, you really are the brand ambassador, but you came in with your own
Speaker:flavor. No pun intended. And it is taking a hold.
Speaker:Yes. Yeah. I love that. That's great. That is really good. And they
Speaker:are delicious. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, I' actually
Speaker:never had a gummy. I've had friends that have had gummies, but maybe I'll have
Speaker:to try one and see what it's like. After you get your med card. After
Speaker:I get my med card. Right. Yeah. That's the key thing. So what people don't
Speaker:understand. So, like, you know, in Oklahoma, it's. It's recreation.
Speaker:Yeah, it can be for anything. So Missouri's Wreck
Speaker:is Oklahoma. Wreck. I think Oklahoma is wreck. Well, I've seen Tulsa King, and
Speaker:that's all they talk about on Tulsa King. I just saw an episode for the.
Speaker:First time that's like. Well, it's kind of framed around.
Speaker:Yeah. You might have a dispensary. Yeah. Never
Speaker:happened. Right. Well, you know, it's Hollywood, so what do you. What do you expect?
Speaker:So. But no, that. That's really cool. We'll put a link
Speaker:to the company on the page because I'm sure. And I've never asked
Speaker:anybody that listens to my podcast, but I'm sure there's a bunch of people
Speaker:that. That actually, I'm really surprised. I'm always surprised when somebody's like, oh, I got
Speaker:a medical card. Then I asked them, well, why do they have it? And they
Speaker:tell me, and I'm like, okay, I get that. I understand that. Oh, it's wonderful.
Speaker:Like, I find some. So much joy. Yeah, I find
Speaker:so much joy. Well, I mean, I just think that, you know, there's
Speaker:been a real evolution, especially with. Around marijuana.
Speaker:And so I just find it interesting that these dispensaries have been able
Speaker:to kind of create their own space, you know, when it comes
Speaker:to this. And so I think it's really interesting. But, yeah, I'm fully aware
Speaker:of the medicinal benefits and how it helps people, especially people
Speaker:going through cancer treatment and things of that nature, with nausea.
Speaker:Nausea and things of that nature. So I get it. I totally get.
Speaker:It's a lot. And, you know, at the source, we are all about
Speaker:educating. Not just ourselves and our budtenders, but the
Speaker:community. So, you know, we do a podcast, we do a magazine, we
Speaker:do community outreach just to get information
Speaker:out there and maybe to help to put someone, you know,
Speaker:their mind at ease about trying, you know, helping
Speaker:patients to get a better deal from their doctor
Speaker:to go get a card, just all that. So we're
Speaker:not just about retailing. Sure. You know,
Speaker:educating. We're about educating and including the community
Speaker:in all facets. Part of my job is we do a monthly
Speaker:tip match. So each month, I choose not. I We
Speaker:choose a nonprofit in the area, and we do a tip
Speaker:match in the store. Oh, nice. And then the company matches that. Okay.
Speaker:We send out a check every single month. Every single month. Very cool. Every single
Speaker:month. We just did Nate Walls. Oh, okay. Secondhand smoke.
Speaker:No pun intended. Well, Nate
Speaker:is my man, and he. If anybody deserves it, he deserves it
Speaker:because he's doing good work everywhere. He's
Speaker:creating good trouble and doing good work all throughout northwest Arkansas.
Speaker:I've personally been out with him delivering food in several
Speaker:apartment complexes. And, I mean, I've been around Nate for a
Speaker:long time. He's been on my podcast more than once. Anytime I hear that he
Speaker:needs anything or he's doing something, I'm there to support him. So.
Speaker:Because he's doing. He's doing good work. So. So now.
Speaker:Well, and I'll. I'll just. For folks that are listening to this that want to
Speaker:learn a little bit more about the dispensary, I'll put a link in the show
Speaker:notes to their Roots and Reefer program, which you had on
Speaker:YouTube. So that way people can check that out and gain a little bit more
Speaker:understanding of it. Yeah. So I'll definitely do that. Now,
Speaker:a couple of things before we wind up. You've organized the Bob Marley
Speaker:birthday tribute at George's for several years now.
Speaker:What's the heart behind that event? Obviously, your relationship with the
Speaker:Marley family, but what's the heart behind that? I
Speaker:mean, I, being an
Speaker:authentic reggae musician, figured
Speaker:that I should be the one to present a Bob Marley
Speaker:tribute. There are tributes all over the country, all over the world,
Speaker:really, celebrating his birthday every year. And
Speaker:there's one that happens in Little Rock, and I
Speaker:wanted to present one here on a proper format
Speaker:to properly represent the music that most of us grew
Speaker:up on and just to continue to highlight
Speaker:his music, his work, his words,
Speaker:and this message of one love. So we cannot
Speaker:stop preaching that. And so I thought it was
Speaker:a blessing that, you know, I saw it. Like, you need to do this.
Speaker:Yeah. So every year, you do something. So this will be the
Speaker:third year, consecutive year that we'll be doing it. Coming up.
Speaker:And we also send a donation to the
Speaker:Bob Marley Foundation. Okay. Okay, well. And we'll be sure to
Speaker:put a link in the show notes to this particular event, which, at
Speaker:the time of recording, this will be February 6th. February 6th,
Speaker:20. 20. 26. Okay. And then for those of you that are listening to this,
Speaker:after February 6th, we will put links in here and how you
Speaker:can gain information so that you can find out the next time that they do
Speaker:something like this or the next time that Rochelle is
Speaker:outperforming somewhere so that you can follow her and learn
Speaker:a little bit more about her and support her as she performs locally
Speaker:when she's not out of town doing her thing. So we'll be sure to do
Speaker:that. One other thing I wanted to ask you is the music scene in
Speaker:northwest Arkansas is. I'm sure it's changed a lot
Speaker:since 2005, both good and bad, from what I've heard from
Speaker:other musicians, because I think it was a pure
Speaker:music scene several years ago, and it's changed and evolved
Speaker:as northwest Arkansas has changed and evolved. I'd be curious to know
Speaker:what has been your experience building a band and creating
Speaker:music here in northwest Arkansas. I mean, I think, like
Speaker:anywhere else, it's been challenging, you know, especially
Speaker:coming in, being a transplant in the area. So
Speaker:it took years just to feel a part of the musical
Speaker:community, number one. And then I knew I had
Speaker:the respect of people because of my ties, you know, because
Speaker:of the band that I was in and what I did before. But I had
Speaker:to submerge myself into the northwest Arkansas
Speaker:music scene and have, you know, encountered
Speaker:some beautiful people. Patty Steele and Jeff Kearney and Anthony
Speaker:Ball and Reggie. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker:But then I decided to start my local band here,
Speaker:like, 2013. I don't think we played a show till, like, 2015 or
Speaker:something. We just kind of rehearsed, you know, because I'm like, okay, I'm going to
Speaker:present. Was that your local band that performed with you at the Jones Center? Okay.
Speaker:Yeah, they were good. They were good. Notion. Hip notion. So I have Matt Smith
Speaker:and Jason Ward and Jay Cranston and Adam
Speaker:Becker and Phil. But, you know, we started
Speaker:at Smoke and Barrel down there, and,
Speaker:you know, late night. No one pays for music
Speaker:in a college town. $5. Yeah. You know, so coming
Speaker:from a big stage, like, for me, I had to just think about it
Speaker:as just jamming. Just jamming when I'm not in tour. Yeah.
Speaker:And so I had a hard time accepting that people wouldn't pay for music.
Speaker:But then I had to look at the demographics and mostly, you know,
Speaker:college kids, but still, you know. Yeah, it was hard,
Speaker:but I have to play music. So we kept going and doing our thing, and
Speaker:slowly, you know, you could see acceptance from
Speaker:the crowd. The scene, not the crowd, but other musicians and
Speaker:stuff. And I started jamming, and so I got
Speaker:closer to the musicians themselves. Yeah, the
Speaker:area changed. Like, every area changes in northwest Arkansas
Speaker:is blooming yeah, it is. That's an understatement.
Speaker:So, you know, and so it's like, I think for me,
Speaker:it's understanding that change is inevitable.
Speaker:And so I try not to think about how it used to be,
Speaker:but, like, what is happening right now and how can we still
Speaker:jam? You know, how can we still get some people out?
Speaker:So I like to collaborate, so
Speaker:I live for collaborating. Yeah. Any musicians that are listening?
Speaker:You guys hear that? Yeah, I'd love to collaborate. I
Speaker:love to hang out. And any musician who's listening and don't
Speaker:know this about me, like, if you text me probably at like 2:00am,
Speaker:1:00am hey, we're having a jam session. You want to come over? I'm
Speaker:probably gonna show up. Okay. But I don't get the text to stop him, you
Speaker:know? Right, right, right. I got you. The scene has changed a lot.
Speaker:I can't put it in words. It's just. You just see it, you just
Speaker:feel it. Yeah, but we're banding together and
Speaker:putting on better shows, I think, as a musician, as a.
Speaker:As a local act, especially if you're. If you're just like a
Speaker:gig musician, whatever. But, like, put on a better
Speaker:show for your audience. Yeah, yeah. Don't expect them to be
Speaker:okay with. Okay. Yeah. Don't expect them to pay
Speaker:for. Okay. Leave it all out there. Exactly.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah. I want to be passionate about coming to see you because I
Speaker:love how passionate you are about me when I'm there and giving
Speaker:me what you came to give to me. And it's so great performance. It's so
Speaker:evident, too, when you go to a really good performance, even in a small venue,
Speaker:when someone's leaving it all out there. I saw this band, this group
Speaker:from Washington, D.C. it's called oh, He Dead. It's a
Speaker:funny, funny name. But they are amazing. They came to the Momentary, and
Speaker:some friends of my wife and I invited us to the event, and
Speaker:I wasn't sure what to expect, but they just. They blew me away.
Speaker:I love that. And they literally flew in for that show, and
Speaker:they were flying right back to Denver to do another show in Denver the next
Speaker:night. But, I mean, you would have never known that they'd been going
Speaker:through all these travel problems. They got there literally about
Speaker:an hour before the show started, and then they just brought it, and it was
Speaker:like, yo, these guys, that's what I call a
Speaker:consummate professional. Nice. That's what you do. And I tell you
Speaker:people all the time, I tell musicians, the audience is
Speaker:not here to be your Therapist, like, they don't care. Yeah.
Speaker:Nobody knows what you're going through. You don't need to show that. Like.
Speaker:Yeah. Why are you on the stage right now? Yeah. You know. Yeah. Let your
Speaker:music speak for you. Yes. Put all of that emotions into
Speaker:what you're doing. Yeah. It makes all the difference.
Speaker:Well, listen, I want to wind up with this because, I mean, and it's.
Speaker:You just briefly talked about it, but you mentioned that this year in
Speaker:particular has been a big year of personal growth
Speaker:outside of creating this album, which it's a long time coming, but you
Speaker:finally created it, so shout out to you for that. What have you learned
Speaker:about yourself through it all? I think I learned that
Speaker:I'm stronger than I give myself credit for. You know,
Speaker:fear has a way of crippling us. Yeah. That's just
Speaker:natural. I have an expression for that. It's called the devil is a liar.
Speaker:So. Yes. So, you know, you have
Speaker:that little voice in your head that's not a good voice that's telling you
Speaker:can't do this or you can't do that, or you're no good, or, you know
Speaker:what I'm saying? Or nobody cares. And, I mean, that's all. As I
Speaker:like to say, it's kind of a trick of the enemy, because it
Speaker:steals your joy. It takes encouragement out of your life
Speaker:and causes you to walk around thinking that everybody is against
Speaker:you when it's not really the case. It's not really the case.
Speaker:So it was. I realized that I could hear those.
Speaker:Yeah, I could hear the chatter. But, like, I kept going forward,
Speaker:you know, with. With my plans, and I'm so
Speaker:happy, and I feel stronger
Speaker:right now than I did a year ago. Honestly, I had to do
Speaker:some major changes in my life, and I didn't know if it was
Speaker:the right thing. But right now, I am walking on
Speaker:a bouncy floor, you know, there's support, you know. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:Beneath me. Sure. Propelling me forward. And I'm
Speaker:thankful for that. Yeah. Thankful for that. Are you excited for this
Speaker:second act? I am excited, and I'm curious, too, because I don't know.
Speaker:Well, I mean, I would. I mean, if somebody told you, you know, or if
Speaker:you look back, like 10 or 15 years from now and somebody told you,
Speaker:hey, well, you know, Rochelle, in your 60s, you're going to do
Speaker:something that's so amazing, it will eclipse anything you did in the first half
Speaker:of your life. What would you say to that? Well, yeah, I mean, I'm island
Speaker:girl. You just never know. You never know, Right. I mean, you see this jellyfish?
Speaker:Because I float. Yes. Yeah. It's going to take me, you know.
Speaker:It'S going to take you a lot of places. I'm going to float through it.
Speaker:Well, listen, I certainly hope that you remember us little people
Speaker:if you end up in your. In your own version of an heiress tour,
Speaker:giving people $100,000 bonuses with your. With your
Speaker:musicianship, I don't need $100,000 bonus. I'm just saying, don't forget the
Speaker:little people. When you are so big that, you know, folks are like, hey, I
Speaker:gotta get time with her on my podcast. It'd be like, yo, we've
Speaker:already done a podcast, so let's just make it part two. So. But no, I
Speaker:promise, Randy. All right, I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Well, listen,
Speaker:Rochelle, this has been amazing. Thank you so much for joining
Speaker:us. And again, a simple shout out to Shelley
Speaker:Muber for just being insistent about getting you on this
Speaker:podcast. I really appreciate her and I also appreciate you and the
Speaker:work that you're doing in our community. And I just want to encourage you.
Speaker:Keep going because you got this. And so between what you've already
Speaker:put out with Island Girl and what's to come next, I mean, we are,
Speaker:I'm waiting, an eager expectation for that. So thank you. Thank you so much.
Speaker:Thank you for having me, Randy. Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, folks, that was
Speaker:such a fun conversation. I want to thank Rochelle Bradshaw for coming on
Speaker:and sharing her story. From her time touring with Legends
Speaker:to building something of her own here in Northwest Arkansas. If you
Speaker:haven't checked out her debut album, Island Girl, definitely
Speaker:give it a listen. We'll put a link to the album in the show
Speaker:notes. And if you're in Rogers, stop by the Source if
Speaker:you have a medical card and see what she's up to there as well.
Speaker:Thanks again for listening to I Am Northwest Arkansas. And before I forget,
Speaker:Rochelle, do you have a website or a link that people you want to send
Speaker:people to? Www.rochellebradshaw.com.
Speaker:You heard it here first.
Speaker:Www.rochellebradShaw.com.
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