In this week’s episode, Emmett, my 15 year old autistic son, and I answer a bunch of your autism related questions. Emmett dug through a huge list of questions you folks submitted via Facebook and create a list of 10 he wanted us to talk about this week. This was a lot of fun. :-)

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Emmett Gorski is a 15-year-old autistic advocate and the son of Rob Gorski, the influential blogger and podcast host behind "The Autism Dad." Passionate about raising awareness and understanding of autism, Emmett brings a unique, firsthand perspective to the conversation. Articulate and insightful, he has been featured on "The Autism Dad" podcast, where he discusses topics ranging from identity-first language to the daily challenges and triumphs of being autistic. With a keen interest in technology and a natural ability to connect with people, Emmett is not only a voice for autistic teens but also an inspiration for families navigating the complexities of autism.

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Rob Gorski, a devoted single father to three incredible autistic sons, is the Founder and CEO of The Autism Dad, LLC. As a multi-award-winning blogger, podcaster, content creator, and influential social media figure for over a decade, Rob continues to share his family's journey, providing insights, resources, and support to the autism community.

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So we're back.

What was that?

That was, that was a, that was a blooper.

We need to keep that.

We'll keep it.

Yeah.

We should keep that.

So we're back.

And, uh, this week I'm sitting down with Emmett, my 15 year old autistic son.

And, uh, Hello.

There you go.

He said hi.

We're, we're going to do kind of a Q and A episode, uh, today.

Emmett went through Facebook and pulled a bunch of your questions

that you guys had asked and made a nice little, very organized list.

And we're going to kind of go through them one by one, answer them the best we can,

give you our, you know, kind of unique perspectives on things and go from there.

How's that sound?

Uh, sounds great.

All right.

Do you want to go first?

Uh, yeah.

It doesn't matter what question I ask.

Why don't we start at the top and work our way down?

Because otherwise we're gonna just not get through any of this.

Uh,

can someone outgrow autism?

Do you want to answer that?

Do you want me to?

I was

figuring you could answer that since I'm asking you the question.

Okay.

Uh, no.

No, you do not grow out.

Grow out?

No, you don't outgrow autism.

There you go.

I knew it was in there somewhere.

Uh, I think what sometimes maybe confuses people is, well A,

sometimes people just don't know.

Uh, but other times I think that as kids get older, they learn to sort of better

navigate the world, and, and, um, you know, they build skills that help them

to, Either overcome or, uh, better manage some of the challenges in their lives.

So what, what do you, what do you think?

Uh, so you're essentially saying they don't outgrow it.

They adapt to

it.

You learn to live with what you got.

Awesome.

And so it's easier, like it may on the surface look like it's easier

than what it was before, but it's, they're just as autistic today

as they were when they were born.

So good question.

Uh, okay.

So I'm just going to word this one a little bit differently

than the way that it was written, because I think it's a little bit.

Uh, can dietary changes make autistic symptoms less pronounced?

I guess it

depends on what the symptoms are.

Uh, because if you have a kid that can't, is like non verbal and they

are aggressive, uh, sort of like I used to be, then, uh, If they have

a stomach ache, or their leg hurts, or their head hurts, and they can't,

like, say something about that, they can get aggressive about that, or just

something that has to do with gut health.

I don't know why I said leg and face, but, uh, If their stomach hurts, and you

give them a proper diet, and then their stomach doesn't hurt anymore, it's gonna

seem like that their symptoms are gone.

Went away, but in all actuality, it's just their stomach doesn't hurt anymore, so

it's not getting rid of the symptoms It's getting rid of the cause of a problem.

Does that make sense?

Yeah.

Awesome.

So so when it comes to things like this I think that like anybody

else Autistic people kids whatever can have food sensitivities Right?

Um, maybe they have an intolerance to, like, lactose?

Like, you?

I have kids in my family right now sitting in this room who insist on

eating dairy products when we all know that that's not something he should

be doing, and yet he does it anyways.

If you

ask anyone that has a lactose intolerance, I will guarantee you

will not find one person that avoids it.

No, yeah, they do.

I'm sure they do.

Some people do.

Ice cream is just too

good

to avoid.

But the point is, is there's a lot of comorbid things that can go along

with an autism diagnosis, right?

And some of them are manageable.

And if it happens to be a gut related thing or a food sensitivity and you

correct that food sensitivity, then you're alleviating the problem.

And so maybe they're happier or less stressed or there's fewer

outbursts or less aggression.

So, yes.

So, yes and no, right?

Yeah.

Yes and no.

There you go.

Just depends.

It just depends.

Sorta.

I guess.

There's, there's a definitive answer.

Yeah.

Um, okay, so Oh, no, it's your turn.

Uh, why have more people been diagnosed since, say, 1990?

Oh, like, why are more people getting diagnosed today?

Um You know, I don't know that we actually know that.

I think, you know, there's a couple of different schools of thought.

So I think one is that people like we're more aware.

So more people are being evaluated, right?

Like it's, it's, it's, um, I mean, it's possible to get in and there's

wait lists and stuff like that, but you know, if you suspect something,

you can go to the doctor and people are more aware, so they know what symptoms

to look for and stuff like that.

Um, and I think there's another school of thought that is, you know, if autism

is caused by something environmental.

Or, you know, whatever, um, that it's just more prominent now,

but I think the reality is that we're, we're just more aware of it.

It's more people are being diagnosed because more people are being evaluated.

I think, you know, what do I know?

What do you think?

Pretty much the same thing.

I mean, it goes with pretty much every major diagnosis.

I mean, we're going to have more diagnoses of say depression than we did in 1990.

Because more people are getting help, and more people, like,

have the resources to do it.

Because, even in like early 2000s, there wasn't really many resources for

Well, I mean, there was, but it wasn't Not really.

In the 2000s?

I was treated for depression in the 2000s.

I wasn't talking

about depression, I was talking about autism.

Oh, well, I mean it was, but you know, we have

like the advent of social media.

Right.

And so, you know, people are talking about it.

There's, you know, people talk about symptoms online all the time and you can

be like, Oh my gosh, my kid does this.

And you get that thought planted in your head and you go see your

pediatrician and you get the evaluation and bam, you have a diagnosis.

You want

to know what it's like?

What is it like?

It's like, um, how it seems like there was less crime in the eighties and nineties,

but the only reason it seems like that was because there was no social media

and ways to communicate with each other.

Does that make sense?

In real time?

Sure.

Does that make sense?

Yeah.

I think that makes sense.

I mean, like, you guys are just asking for our opinions.

I mean, this, you don't, like, tank this to the bank or anything,

but like, I mean, I, I think, I think it's a combination of things.

I think more people are being evaluated because.

Uh, there's just a greater awareness, you know, we're,

we're, teachers are more aware.

So they can point things out.

Pediatricians are more aware.

So they're looking for things.

Parents are more aware.

There's TV shows and movies and, you know, organizations that are advocating.

I mean, it's, it's everywhere now.

So when you're more aware, you're paying more attention.

You get help when you, when you think you need it, or your kid needs it.

Um, We're gonna, well, alright, so, somebody asked, aren't

we all a little autistic?

We're just gonna humor them with this one because I know a lot of

people get offended by this question.

Uh, no, we're not all just a little autistic.

I mean, I, I think, I don't know why people say that.

Maybe they just don't know what to say.

You know, but I, but I mean, maybe somebody means it, you know, in a,

in a, in a negative way at times.

And maybe sometimes people just don't know what to say.

So yeah, I mean, that, that's what I, that's what I kind of think.

So like, do you have a thought or

not really just, I agree with what you said pretty much.

Yeah.

So if you hear that and you get offended by it, like, I

get why you would be offended.

Cause maybe you feel invalidated or like you'd being downplayed or

whatever, but you know, sometimes people say things because they

just don't know what else to say.

And maybe they want you not to feel so different or like whatever.

I don't, I don't know.

Yeah.

I've never had somebody say that to me.

Like you're not autistic though.

No, I know.

I know that.

But like, if, if, if you guys, if I was like, Oh yeah, you know, my

son is autistic and like, Oh, aren't we all just a little autistic and

be like, well, no, we're not I mean, you either are or you aren't.

It's like being pregnant or not pregnant.

Like you either are or you aren't, there's no, there's no little pregnant.

Yeah.

You're just, you are, or you aren't.

So you either are autistic or you're not autistic.

You either have ADHD or you don't have ADHD.

I mean, it's just sort of like.

Maybe there's traits that people maybe see that might be common between,

you know, humans, but I don't know.

I don't tend to get all, like, worked up about that stuff, so, like, I really don't

have an opinion one way or the other.

But, anyhow.

Uh, you want to do the next one?

You want me to do it?

Uh, I mean, I don't know how to answer it, so I'm gonna ask you.

Sure.

Um, a pediatrician had asked what they should tell the parents of their

patients at the time of diagnosis.

Okay.

So, you know, that's a good question.

And I, it's, it's nice to hear like somebody asked that because I think there

is a problem with the way that we do this.

So like when you guys were diagnosed, uh, and what do you hear from parents

pretty much anywhere is you get the diagnosis and then you get like a

piece of paper, a little pamphlet or something, and you're kind of shoved

out the door and told to be on your way.

And, you know, in those first moments when your kid is diagnosed, like parents.

Are like their whole world implodes because they're not processing

everything and it's like they're emotionally vulnerable and they don't

know what to do They don't have you know, someone to talk to oftentimes.

They don't have a support system all they know is that there's a list of

phone numbers like You know otpt speech whatever on a piece of paper and that's

what they have to go Uh on and I think what we should be doing is is letting

parents know that You know, yes, it's a diagnosis Is And yes, your child may

be struggling with this, this, this, and this right now, but, uh, we need to

label it so that we can identify a need and match it with a resource, right?

And, and just because your child isn't speaking right now, or just because they

are struggling with this, this, or this, does not mean that they're struggling.

They're always going to be struggling with this, this, and this where we are today

is like a baseline we're establishing like ground zero so that we can build

up and measure progress going forward.

So a lot of times parents walk out of these diagnoses feeling like

this is what their life is going to be for the rest of their lives.

Like their child is never going to progress.

This is what it's going to be like.

And that's not, that's almost never the case.

Kids always make progress, you know, big, small, Um, and I think we need

to make sure that parents know that so that they're not, they're not hopeless,

you know, walking out the door, we get them set up with resources and parent

mentors and other people who have gone through this before to help them manage

the emotional side of this stuff.

So that's what I think.

Awesome.

Awesome.

Awesome.

Awesome.

Awesome.

Awesome.

Okay.

So how do you explain to non autistic siblings about their.

How do you explain autism to a non autistic sibling?

So like, you know, let's say you have like three kids, and one of

those kids is autistic, how do you explain autism to their siblings?

I don't know, brother and sister.

One sec,

Elliot, it's bothering me.

Uh, what was the question

again?

Are you kidding me?

Okay.

No, no, we're not going to cut this out.

This is funny.

I, I, I, yeah, no, it's real funny.

So let's just say, how do you explain autism to siblings?

Um, I mean, you're gonna, I mean, I guess it depends

on how old the sibling is.

Okay.

Because you're, he's bothering me again.

Ignore it.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Um, I mean you're gonna describe it differently for different

age groups, so let's just assume that I don't know 10 to Twelve.

Mm hmm.

Um, you would probably say something like, I don't know, you've said this,

like, spiel of we think differently and act differently in certain aspects and

deal with things differently and are sensitive to different things and have

different traits that other people don't.

And stuff like that.

Hmm.

I guess I can't really go into specifics because I don't know

what the specifics would be for any

given person and you like to be very specific and know all the facts.

So you're not going to like absolutely try and extrapolate anything from that

beyond what you know, to be definite.

Absolutely.

Okay.

So I would agree with what Emmett said.

And just to build on that a little bit, like we just talked to the boys,

even explaining autism to each of the kids who are autistic in my house,

uh, because each of them are different from each other and trying to explain

some of those differences and why they do things a certain way or whatever.

And it's just like, you know, everybody's brain works different.

Everybody does things differently and you know, that's okay.

We just have to, you know, work with it.

And, and you just do it in a non threatening way, like, like just a

very matter of fact and in a positive, you know, way and, you know, validate

frustrations and things like that.

And, uh, maybe get a therapist.

They're great at helping you navigate stuff like this.

We have a Patty.

Patty has been there for us for 20 years, navigating this stuff.

So, we have a Patty.

You should get yourself a patty.

Good, good there.

You know what Elliot interrupted us for?

Why?

He, uh, sent me a link to a chocolate souffle castella cake.

Oh my god.

Okay.

Next question Emmett.

Okay.

I

just

went back to Elliot.

This one, this one was really important to you.

Oh.

So do you want to answer it or do you want me to, do you want me to ask it?

I don't know how to answer it.

So,

do you want to ask the question?

Yeah.

Uh, before I say this question, um, first off, I would

probably say that this took, like, a lot of guts to say, um, but this person

had asked, How can I, uh, feel happy about my 20 year old son and think he's

amazing when every day is terrible?

That's a tough question.

Yeah.

And we debated about whether or not to take this one on, but you

specifically felt very, um, you felt it was very important that we honor.

At least address it.

Address it.

Yeah.

Because it took a lot of courage to, to ask that and

there is zero judgment at all.

Uh, and I guess without knowing any more than that, what I can say

is that, uh, you're very human.

And I think that a lot of times this journey can be so hard

and so exhausting and we don't have the support that we need.

And, you know, sometimes the challenges that our kids have are such that it's,

I mean, it takes more than what we have.

And it's easy to, to become more familiar with the, the bad days and,

and sort of get sucked into that despair and feel like you're drowning.

Um, you know, I, I think that it's, I mean, it's okay to not be okay.

It's okay to be overwhelmed.

It's okay to be miserable for a period of time, but you know, you want to make

sure that you're taking care of yourself.

You want to make sure that you're getting the support that you need

as a parent so that you are able to.

Be the best version of yourself for your son.

And, and I know that when, when you're asking this question, it's not meant.

In, in malice or, or anything like that because there are times

that, uh, and I've told my kids this, like my kids drive me nuts.

They drive me crazy.

How dare you?

I am perfect,

perfectly good at driving me crazy because yeah, and, and there

have been times where, where I felt similar to this with some of my kids

during like really difficult times.

And.

It's just, it's a lot for anybody to try and deal with, especially if

you don't have that support, uh, or the resources to help, uh, to help

you navigate some of these things.

So, you know, I guess I wouldn't, I wouldn't focus so much on how

you're supposed to feel happy.

I would focus on figuring out.

Where you can find support and therapy would, again, therapy is huge.

It's so important.

Respite care.

So important.

And what I would say is, uh, especially therapy, again,

as you said, because there's going to be a great deal of guilt for even

having that thought that you can't think of anything like happy about.

Your son because of how like bad the days are and so therapy could help

you Sort of move like through it.

Yeah move through it or at least a little further But again, we don't

know the situation Specifics and

we don't judge we don't

judge and we can't make any You giant judgment calls

without knowing what is happening because there's a multitude of

situations that could be going on.

Um, and so we're just choosing this as a sort of overall thing

you can do to help yourself and try

and move forward.

And yeah, I, I, I think that was well said Emmett.

And I just want to say too, that this doesn't make you a bad parent.

It doesn't mean your kid is a bad kid.

It means that you're, you're in over your head.

And,

um, almost nothing makes you

mad.

Well, that, I mean, I don't, I don't get mad.

I've tried and I can't make him mad.

Over 15 years.

I haven't

tried.

Yeah.

I, I don't get, I don't get angry.

And so this isn't

very anything against anyone like anywhere.

Yeah.

My dad is.

Yeah, that's, we can go with weird, but what I wanted to, I wanted to

just say this, you know, like all joking aside, if you're out there listening to

this and you're thinking like, who would say something about that to their kid?

A lot of people.

There's a lot of people out there who feel exactly like this.

And we need to be very, very careful when we judge other parents because

autism is a very broad spectrum.

And you know, while there are significant challenges in my life

with my kids, I'm very fortunate.

Yeah.

They're amazing.

And.

And as they've gotten older, a lot of those challenges have gotten easier,

but they're all diagnosed with autism.

And then there are families who are raising kids who are very high needs,

who maybe are non speaking, who can't feed themselves, who can't use

the bathroom, who can't do anything without 24 hour a day, seven day a

week.

Aggressive through all of that.

Yeah.

And, and they're diagnosed with the same thing, autism.

And.

We need to be aware that it's not this, you know, what you're experiencing in

your life does not reflect what someone else might be experiencing, even though

their kids have the same diagnosis.

So it makes this whole thing so difficult to navigate.

So I applaud the question because I think it took a tremendous amount of courage.

I think there's a lot of people out there who are going to hear that and feel like

I'm not alone because you are not alone.

You're not alone.

Because, uh.

Not only is this addressing a question that you would ask, it's

addressing questions that people who felt either too guilty or too scared to

ask that because no one would want to.

No one wants to feel like, what would you call it?

Not hatred, but

well, you feel guilt because, you know, as a parent, you're supposed to

like love unconditionally, which, I mean, we do, but you, we all have limits, right?

We're not super human.

There's, there's this nonsense that goes around where we talk about like, you

know, autism warrior parents or whatever.

And, and the reality is that we're all, there's no different, like,

I'm no different than anyone else.

Like I have a different personality or whatever, but I'm just as human is.

Is anybody else?

And, uh, you know, I struggle with things.

I find ways to deal with it.

I don't have, you know, a superhuman ability to, to do things that,

that make this life easier for me.

Um, and so I run out of patience.

I run out of bandwidth.

I run out of resources.

I burn out, I get depressed.

I get anxious.

My mental health can, you know, suffer at times.

My physical health can suffer at times.

And it has over the years, you know, so beating yourself up.

Because you're human just doesn't, it's, it's, it's flawed logic.

You're never going to be perfect.

And that's okay.

You're not supposed to be perfect.

Yeah.

You're doing the best you can with a job that often requires superhuman abilities.

And none of us are superhuman, you know, so thank you.

And if you, if you happen to be listening and you're the one that asked this

question, you can reach out and, you know, we can maybe chat or something if that

would be helpful, but you're not alone.

And, uh, You know, I, I see you, we both see you.

And I think a lot of the people out here listening right now can, can relate.

And, uh, thank you for, for having the courage to ask that.

Yeah.

Uh, I'm glad you picked that out.

Actually.

That, that was a, that was a, that was an important question.

Yeah.

Um, so why don't we do this?

Why don't we, there were two more questions in here that I think.

we can refer back to previous episodes or future or future episodes.

Yes, correct.

So there was one that was asking about, uh, when to have like the sex talk with,

you know, Just call it the birds and bees.

Well, is that what they called it?

I think they called it the birds and bees.

Yeah, it's called the birds and bees.

So, I mean, whatever, we can just.

It's the more childish way of saying it.

I know we're both adults here.

We're not both adults.

All right.

So we'll say you're more comfortable with the birds and bees.

No, but

if you're like, Oh, kids might be watching this.

You don't just want to say the sex talk.

I mean, I don't know.

I just feel use the right words for things.

Well, okay.

So the question was, at what point do I talk about the birds and the bees?

Is that better?

You're welcome.

Uh, to my autistic, uh, what?

10 year old or something?

10 year old son?

Uh, 11, 11, almost 11, almost 11 year old son.

Um, you know, I did a whole episode on this with Dr.

Whitney Caceres.

It's the parent's guide to navigating autism and puberty.

I will have it linked in the show notes below.

You can also go to the autism dad dot link, click on the podcast

button and scroll down a little bit and you'll find, uh, it's pinned

on there so you can check that out.

We went in depth about.

All of that stuff.

And, uh, she's an autism mom as well as a pediatrician.

And it was an amazing episode.

I was super uncomfortable, but I got through it.

It was really awkward for me at first, but it turned out really well.

It has helped a lot of people.

So you can check that one out.

Um, and then what was the last.

Oh,

can I ask this one?

Yeah, yes, go ahead.

Yeah, uh, so someone had talked about the fact that Elliot hates the dentist.

Yes, he does.

And I mean, Elliot despises it.

He hates it more than socks and sandals.

I mean, he, it's just the worst thing in the world to him.

And so Almost

more than microfiber.

Yeah, this, uh Well, it's probably more than microfiber.

He hates microfiber.

Yeah, this person had asked, How do we get him to the dentist successfully?

And Uh, apparently my dad recorded an episode about that and when

you, when's it going to air?

Uh,

it, it's soon.

Soon.

Soon.

Sometime soon.

Not a specific date, uh, but general time span.

Um, but honestly, the real answer and it's pro, it's not going to work for

everybody because I guarantee it won't.

But we just don't tell him.

We tell him we're going out for ice cream or going to the best bar.

No we don't.

You can't, you can't, you can't do that.

And when

he asks,

Why, why does this Oh my god, you're having way too much fun with this.

This is like,

okay, so this is like an ongoing family kind of inside joke thing.

Like Elliot struggles with anxiety in the dentist and I can relate to that

because I, I was traumatized as a kid in a dentist, an oral surgery thing.

And, um, I, so I get it, uh, for me.

So I'm very, um, sensitive to this more.

More so than, uh, some of us, but, you know, I think it just depends.

And, and MSRI, like I did record an episode with, um, the pediatric

dentist at Akron children's hospital.

And we talked about ways to help our kids, uh, navigate some of these things.

And there's a bunch of new things that they're doing with sedation and, and drill

this cavity things and stuff like that.

So, uh, that will air shortly.

And then, uh, you'll be able to find that as well at the autism dad dot link,

click on podcast and you'll find it pinned in the, uh, in the thing there.

Okay.

Elliot.

Okay.

We're recording.

We're

recording.

And you're talking about me behind my back.

It's a Q and a about

me.

Okay.

No, it's not.

It's a, it was, it was, it's somebody had watched your reel and they said that

they knew that you were terrified of the dentist and how do we get you to go?

I.

I had joked about the fact that you hate the dentist more than socks and sandals,

and we would just say, Hey Elliot, you wanna you wanna go to Best Buy?

And I was about to say, before I burst out laughing, And when Elliot asks,

Why does this Best Buy look like a dentist's office?

And we just say, Oh, it's a mall complex, it's in the back.

Yeah, no, we don't, you don't, you don't ever want to lie to your kids if you can

avoid it, obviously, because like, if we said something, and I never did that, I

would never lie to you about that, you would be told, but you might not be told

until, like, the last minute, yeah, so you had less time to perseverate on it,

but, you know, if you lie to your kids, then, then, you know, especially autistic

kids, like, they will latch onto that, and they will sometimes never let it go.

And if you tell them we're going to go get ice cream, but you

take them to the dentist, then they're never going to trust you.

Like, like our kids.

Yeah.

I mean, our kids can latch onto things.

So, you know, the episode will come out and there's a lot of ways that you

can work with your kids on this and then you can work with a therapist.

You know, that can, um, you know, help with social stories and things like that,

but, you know, we kind of joked around about this and then Elliot popped his

head in, but, uh, but yeah, so, I mean, it was a good question, and, you know, I'll

let you guys know when the episode drops, but, uh, there's a lot of stuff that I

learned that I wasn't aware of that we can do, and so now Elliot is going to be

doing sedation dentistry, so, you know, he'll go, and he'll go to sleep, and he'll

wake up, and it'll all be done, and he won't be afraid of the dentist anymore.

And

my answer was obviously exaggerated.

Don't do that to your kids,

please.

He's not liable for any damage.

I was just trying

to make a joke, and it was funny.

So you're capable of doing that sometimes.

Why can't you do that more often?

What?

Like, you were able to kind of like, riff on that and kind

of like, have fun with it.

Because it's funny.

Well, but it wasn't factual.

I Exactly.

Okay.

Well, anyhow.

You know, next time we're going to have to just get all three of us, like, hooked

up on this and do it all at one time.

All right.

On that note, uh, thank you guys very much for taking the time to tune in.

Emmett, thank you for putting this together and finding these questions.

No problem.

I appreciate it.

Uh.

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