Your filtered water might be clean, but it's also dead, and that's why you're not feeling as good as you should.

In this eye-opening conversation with Dr. Abby Kramer, co-founder of Fringe Heals, we dive deep into the world of electrolytes, minerals, and the honest truth about the supplement industry. While most supplements don't deliver on their promises and contain hidden ingredients like maltodextrin and artificial flavors, proper mineral supplementation is one of the few areas where quality products can create immediate, noticeable improvements in your health.

The reality is stark: our soil and water have become severely depleted of essential minerals, leaving most people deficient in these critical nutrients. Even if you're filtering your water for safety (which you should), you're likely removing the minerals your body desperately needs. This deficiency affects everything from energy levels and anxiety to sleep quality and muscle recovery.

In this episode, Dr. Kramer shares her journey creating truly clean electrolyte and magnesium supplements, why most products on the market miss the mark, and how proper mineral balance can transform your health. Whether you're dealing with brain fog, muscle soreness, or just want to optimize your wellness routine, you'll learn why minerals might be the missing piece in your health puzzle.

In today's episode, we're chatting about:

• Why most electrolytes on the market contain hidden ingredients not listed on the label

• How mineral deficiency affects your energy, anxiety, and overall wellbeing

• The truth about reverse osmosis water and why it needs remineralization

• Why magnesium is involved in over 800 biochemical processes in your body

• How to identify quality supplements in an unregulated industry

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Well, welcome back to another episode of the Toxin Freeish podcast. I'm your host, Wendy, and today we're diving deep on a topic that I have been dying to cover electrolytes. Minerals and the honest truth about the supplement industry. Now, if you've followed me for a while, you know, I'm kind of known as the antis supplement girl because I am super skeptical about not just the wellness industry in general, but the endless shelves of pills and powders and promises of miracles.

And most supplements don't deliver their terrible quality, and you don't need them anyway, and that's why I am absolutely thrilled. To have Dr. Abby Kramer on the podcast. She's the co-founder of the company, fringe Heals,

Abby isn't just another name in the supplement game. She is a respected practitioner with years of clinical experience, and she's deeply committed to creating safe, effective, and genuinely beneficial supplements. We talk about how most electrolytes on the market totally miss the mark, how they've got hidden ingredients, that they slip into everything, and yep, we even go into all the natural flavors, We also talk about what sets fringe apart from an overcrowded electrolyte market.

If you've ever wondered if your supplements are actually helping you or secretly hurting you, or maybe why magnesium and minerals are game changers for your health, when we talk about things like energy and anxiety and wellbeing,

this episode is a must. Listen, 📍 let's jump right in with Dr. Abby Kramer.

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Abby, thanks and welcome to The Toxin for Podcast. How you doing today?

I'm doing great. Thanks so much for having me. I'm excited to come on.

This is gonna be good. I have been wanting to have this conversation actually for a while, and we're gonna jump, I mean, literally right into, we're gonna talk about electrolytes. I do wanna take two seconds though and talk about Fringe Heels, which is the company you help. Found it, didn't you? You're not just the medical brains behind it.

You're a part of, you know, the creation of

Been there since the beginning.

Uh, okay. Tell, tell my audience a little bit about that.

Yeah. So Fringe, we are really a wellness company. , most people, if they've heard of us, is probably through our amazing Red Light Therapy products, which, that's a podcast for another

yeah. For another day, I.

Um, but we actually started as a CBD company and evolved into red light therapy and now supplements. And at the end of the day, we just design really high quality, safe, effective, well researched products that help us heal.

Right. So our goal is to have something for everyone, kind of a wellness marketplace of sorts.

I love that and a lot of people are gonna be like, why is Wendy having a supplement person on her podcast? Because I'm kind of well known as the Antis supplement girl. I really struggle in the wellness space with the, you know, take these 5,000 supplements that you might not even need and could potentially make your issues worse.

And it's fine because they're natural and. You know, nobody tells you they're not regulated. So I just in general, talk a lot about, be really careful where you get your supplements from and make sure you're taking them with purpose and intention, and that you're being supported by somebody who is a medical doctor, a naturopath, a chiropractor, you know, somebody you trust.

Because I have just seen. A lot of people worsen their health because they don't have the right kind of support behind them, and they just think, oh, I'm gonna go on Amazon and buy X, Y, and Z and everyone's taking a bunch of zinc and everyone's, taking 5 million liver pills a day. And so I'm just gonna do what everyone else is doing and then they make themselves worse.

Correct.

, and the reason you're here is because I adore you and trust you. And I'm actually gonna, I'm gonna hold these up and if you're watching on YouTube, I'm gonna do a little demonstration actually while we're talking because I love how different your, I'm holding up electrolytes. Your ele, this is your electrolyte and mineral mix and magnesium.

And these are actually the two things. If I had to pick right, if I had to be like, you know, there are some gaps and supplements and things that we actually do need, it would be these. And I do really like that people are talking about electrolytes, but there's some shitty electrolytes out there,

it is a rabbit hole.

oh my gosh.

So let's just, we're just gonna start there. So I love that people are starting to not drink Gatorade. Love that for everybody, right? You don't need the sugar and the dye and all that, that crap. And so the first company outta the gate was like, element. Right, and then that became trendy and then everyone turned on them because they found out they had like, you know, really crappy salt and it was too high.

And then they have all this melted dex room. So let's just talk about electrolytes in general to kick this off. What are electrolytes and why do we need them?

Yeah, so electrolytes are minerals that are found naturally in our environment that are very, very important co-factors to nearly every biological process our body needs to do. And look, in an absolutely perfect world, we would be getting all of those from our food and from our water. That is how it is designed.

No doubt. You know, it's like when people ask us about why do we need red light therapy? Isn't that the sun? It's like, yes, but we're not outside. So electrolytes are very, very similar. We absolutely need these, and the vast majority of people are very depleted because your audience probably knows this.

Our soil has become very depleted in its mineral content. Ideally, we're getting mineral rich foods. That doesn't happen anymore. And our water, like good spring, fresh spring water that's coming off those rocks in the babbling, Brooks has high mineral content, but that's not what we're drinking. And so our water is fortified and chemically treated.

And then many people like. Myself, myself, and probably you also filter our water. I got river osmosis in my house. 'cause I think it does the best job at getting everything out, but it's also getting all the minerals out then. So if you've got a great filter, 📍 📍 your water is clean, but it's dead and we need living water.

And so that's really what we aim to create with our electrolyte. It's, if you guys look at the label, it's not a super, super intense formula. It's very gentle. It's like. Here's putting everything back into your water that our bodies actually need, and in really safe kind of lower ratios that the body just recognizes.

It's like making your water living again, essentially.

I love that. So what's the problem with, you know, it's interesting. Every single electrolyte company that I've talked to all have all of their million reasons why their ratio. Sodium to magnesium, to potassium.

Is what it is.

is, is what it's the best. And it has to be this way. And I, I'll tell you, so I like flavored electrolytes.

I'm gonna explain why now I'm obsessed with yours, but I still love my flavored electrolytes. And so I do have just ingredients and I know a lot of people try to avoid the monk fruit and stevia. But then none of that bothers me. They have like a three to one ratio where they talk about, you mean anything higher than that is like too high in sodium, but each, and I'm not knocking on any of these companies, but each one of them just has their own thought process.

What is your thought process on that?

Oh my gosh. This was an animal. I, I really thought that making an electrolyte I was very naive would be easy. Literally, what was I thinking? It's like so complex, and this is why it literally took us almost two years to put this out. That seems so simple. And if you look at, I have a giant graph where I did this, all the top electrolyte companies.

Wildly different, like you're saying. It's like were they just picking something out of a hat and making it like it's, they're all dramatically different. And so we really had to hone in and research and think about what we wanted to make. Because the truth is, if you have, for example, three different people, let's say an elite professional athlete expending tons of energy, losing a lot of sodium through sweating a ton, high demand on their body, then you have a five-year-old.

That plays Little League T-ball, and then you have your 86-year-old grandmother who sits around in crochets. If you were designing an electrolyte for those three people, it would be three different ratios. It, it just would be right where all of our bodies have different needs. And so we really aim to find that kind of Goldilocks situation where if you are the elite athlete.

You take three or four scoops of our powder and get that a thousand milligrams of sodium if that's what your body needs or that's what you feel best on. Like I'm the type of person, I feel great on those high sodium formulations, but that's not for everyone. I've seen in practice that can make people retain fluids.

It can make their like hands and feet swell up. If you need to be mindful of sodium content, obviously those aren't great for you. So we really tried to just hit it in the middle. And our sodium potassium ratio as it is in the current formula, we kept it around the same as the sodium potassium pump in the body.

With all of our products, we try and keep them at a safe but effective dose. So it's not like nothing. It's going to have an effect, but as close to as nature. Intense. But the interesting thing is as we've developed products, we've also made a commitment that as we learn more and research more, new science comes out, right?

Things are always evolving. We will also always improve. So actually on our next formulation that's in production currently, we are upping the potassium a bit. And we did. 'cause that's the, the new trend is super high potassium electrolytes, right? But we don't hop on trends. So after researching a bit, we're like, okay, now we're gonna shift it into a one to 1.4 ratio, sodium to potassium.

That is the ratio of electrolytes that our body stores,

Oh,

right? So it's like our kind of take on this. If that is how the body then like takes these electrolytes and stores it. That's what our body's going to recognize. And that's not to say, again, higher doses don't help some people. We all grew up hearing like you get a Charlie horse, you eat a banana.

That's from

Yeah. Yeah.

Right. And so all of these things are necessary, but it's a delicate balance. And those high potassium products, while they work amazing for some people. For some people that can be quite dangerous. If you've got a heart issue, you have to be real mindful. And when we started talking about this, I was like having nightmares about heart.

People going in the hospital

Oh,

too much potassium. I'm like, I need to sleep at night.

you are actually, I think the, the thing that makes you guys different is that you, you actually are a practitioner. You are taking care of people all the time, every day. And so what you put out into the world impacts your patients.

right. We have, you know, our, our medical team is a really special group of people because. I have like the clinical experience, which is why I was like, we have to make an electrolyte because there's not one I'm happy with on the market. People are always compromising, okay, like I love how I feel on this one, but it has a bunch of tto dextrin or whatever.

And it's one of the number one supplements where I've seen people feel in immediate difference in how they feel, right? Like they are like, oh my gosh, my brain fog is gone. I have no more muscle soreness. Like I just feel so much better and more balanced. And so I knew we.

I'm sleeping better.

it's, I mean, for myself too, I feel amazing on electrolytes, but I always felt like, uh, do I really want this much stevia or whatever?

And so it really evolved into like. The bottom line is that our food and our water are so depleted in these nutrients. So how can we make that a really easy process for people that like long-term they feel great taking and it's just replenishing those super important baseline nutrients. Like you were saying.

If that's why our first three products are called our essentials supplements, because they are things that, I don't care how granola and crunchy you are, you are probably not getting enough. Minerals or magnesium or vitamin D is our other one. And so it, they're just like, no-brainers and we just want no extra stuff.

No fancy this. No. You know, nano that, like just get the stuff back in your system, like nature intended.

just the real stuff. Now I do wanna jump into ingredients and purity in the supplement industry, but first, I think I heard you talk about. Originally 'cause your electrolytes are unflavored and I actually shockingly get asked all the time for unflavored electrolytes that I actually like, and I've never been able to tell people that I have one.

I have one now, but, you tried to make a flavored one first, right?

yes. Well, and spoiler alert, we have a flavored one coming. It's been ordered, it's happening. I'll definitely be sending it to you. And it's amazing. But that took like two and a half years. So yes. We originally started with, there was, we were not even considering doing an unflavored product.

It was like people need clean flavored electrolyte. Everyone wants a yummy flavor, obviously they're amazing. And I was like, it can't be that hard to make that, like we just take out the junk. I was wrong. The story without, this was probably over a year ago. We were at the finish line. We were about to like push go on the order, and we got the final documents from the flavoring company, not like our people.

Okay. This is how like making stuff works. You have like your factory that makes your stuff, but they outsource from different vendors, right? The flavors and. We were told it was orange flavor tasted so good. We were told that the, the label would be able to read like orange juice, orange extract, and like monk fruit, whatever.

Right. And we were like, amazing. No one has a label like that, like without all that other stuff.

It doesn't say natural flavors on it.

No natural flavor. We've been clear about that since day one. We will never have natural flavors on a label and which is real hard to do. And so we're like, great, this like actually makes our guidelines, it's a miracle.

This is way easier than we thought it would be. We get the final documents 'cause we're like, well, we need to triple check what the label will actually read. Make sure. Right. And there were like four extra ingredients and it was like silicon dioxide, moto, dextrin. I forget the other ones. And

maleic acid. Citric acid.

acid for sure.

and we can have a conversation about that because that's a different thing, but. We were like, we have to kibosh the whole thing. Like we're unwilling to do that, and then the flavor company comes back and is like, well, no, don't worry about those flavors because they're in such small amounts, you don't have to put 'em on the label.

Okay, let's pause right there. I really want people to understand this and hear this so clearly because I don't think I, I've said this multiple times, but I don't think people believe it, and I think it's because they. Don't want to believe

They don't wanna For

They, they

because it blows up every product that's in your house.

Everything. And it's, you know, all of this can be very overwhelming.

And to feel like you can't even trust a label. And now listen, I teach label reading. I spend 90% of my time on social media being like, listen, learn how to read a freaking label. It's literally my job. It's all I talk about. And so to say like. But there's probably things on that label that aren't, that are in your, that aren't on the label, but they're in your product.

Like that feels very defeating

It's

to people, right?

and that was very mind blowing to me as a provider who, for like a decade has been prescribing supplements to my patients with good results. Right? This isn't, I'm not trying to say throw out everything in your medicine cabinet, that's not realistic, but it was really mind opening to me how, just like you're saying.

The label isn't necessarily telling you everything that's in the product, and that's just an important thing to understand. And then like you're saying, it feels very helpless 'cause people are like, great, well now what can I trust? And my answer to people there is like, you just really need to trust that the companies you are buying your products from are doing the right thing.

a

Or like do some deeper digging, right? You can email their customer service and be like, do you have a certificate of analysis? I can look at, can you tell me if there's any other fillers? And in my opinion, if they're an Integris company, they should tell you that, even if it's not on the label. Yeah.

Actually there is maltodextrin in this. Like I, to me, it's just mind blowing that that's not the gold standard. I just like truly don't understand why labels aren't transparent.

It's great. Well, the laws need to change. I'm working on that too, although we're not getting very far. But you know, this is where Element T got into big, big trouble. People found out, oh, there's multi dextrin in this. But you know, as much as they're getting picked on, it doesn't mean that all the other electrolyte companies don't have the same problem.

yeah, they a hundred percent do. Like if you, if you see any, and this is just the stuff you learn when you make products, which like the customer doesn't understand and they shouldn't need to understand. It's crazy. You, you don't learn this stuff unless you're in insanely deep rabbit holes. But like for example, a lot of clean electrolytes have a coconut water on the label.

If coconut water is in your powdered electrolyte, there is a flow agent there. You can't make water a powder. Without other ingredient, it's not possible. Right? And so it's

where the silicone dioxide comes in, and I know there.

and fillers and like stuff to help it mix. And part of it is part of the reality of making a product, right?

If you want to make a powder that makes your water taste like watermelon juice. There's going to be ingredients, right? And so part of it is the conversation of like, Hey, I know I need electrolytes or like my 70-year-old dad, the only way he drinks water is if he has his like watermelon splash electrolytes.

Okay? Maybe it's like

to drink more

it's worth that compromise, right? You have to make that informed choice, but the reality is you can do it without most of that stuff. It's just a lot harder. It takes a lot longer and is a lot more expensive.

I feel like there's a secret. And listen, I own every electrolyte on the market. I, I'm somebody who tests companies, send me their stuff and ask me all the time.

When you and I talked, I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever. I'm sure it could be. And just, just honesty, right? When

Well totally. 'cause 90% of 'em are kind of like whatever,

Oh, and I don't even answer half the emails I get. If you saw my email, it wouldn't even Yeah, but I have to ask 'cause I'm, if you're on YouTube right now, I'm holding this up and I'm actually gonna, we're gonna do like a little fun.

So this is crazy, right? This powder, it literally dissolves right into your water. It's so thin.

Mm-hmm.

It's so thin, and I do take my little mixer and I mix it up, but like I don't have to, I really don't have

It mixes very well.

mixes and dissolves. It's so you can see it like just dissolving in there. It's so light.

Mm-hmm.

How, what it, what's in it? How did you make it so amazing? Because I am assessed.

Yes. So what's in it is sodium from sea salt, potassium, magnesium, calcium. That's one. With our last new round, we added a bit of calcium from algae. I feel like a huge differentiator with our electrolytes. We also add in trace minerals, which most don't. 'cause it's not just about those like macro minerals, sodium, potassium, magnesium.

We also need trace minerals and we're usually very depleted of those. And,

tastes good. Can I just say like those stupid drops that people buy, that taste. Absolutely terrible like this. I, I mean, I literally just put that whole scoop in here. It just tastes like really clean, quenching, refreshing water. There's no like, weird taste to it.

Yep. A lot of people then start craving it and honestly, it tastes really similar to if you go to like a Whole Foods and get a like glass bottled mineral rich water,

Yes. I.

it's similar, right? So if people go from drinking like a reverse osmosis, super purified, filtered water to mineral, it does taste quite different.

But then people find they like crave it because it just, we kind of compared it to, I'm like, this tastes a little bit like in growing up in the nineties, you'd like drink out of the hose, but with that waterhead minerals in it, like it tasted different, you know, our water used to have minerals in it, so,

I can taste ro water from a mile away. So I'm currently, the home I'm in right now is my mom's we're like in between moving into a new house. In my old house, I had a pure effect whole house filter under sink that uses fulvic acid and other things to restore minerals, , in the filter and in, and I loved that in this home.

We have an aqua ox in the whole house, which is great. I love it. But there's an RO system. On under the sink and I, every time I drink a glass, I feel dehydrated immediately. Like immediately. Yeah,

Yep. And that's what, over time, if you're only drinking highly filtered water and not, you should be supplementing daily with some sort of mineral. What's going to happen is your body is really smart, is gonna get those minerals however it needs to.

It's gonna pull 'em outta your bones and your teeth.

Yep.

And so a lot of people don't realize that they're doing what they think is amazing by filtering their water, which, yes, but if you're missing the boat on the minerals, eventually that will cause harm.

I'm gonna just like hit that one more time because I, and I already talk about this a lot, but you know, you can't say important things too many times. Repetition is good. I actually don't recommend RO systems. I have a toxin-free shopping guide with my favorite water filters, and only because I get asked all the time, there are a few RO filters that have remineralization, but it is not my recommendation because of this reason.

And while, yeah, it strips everything that's, that's actually part of the problem. It strips everything. And so I see a lot of people drinking RO water, and they need to be adding electrolytes and minerals and yours are my favorite. So I hope that everyone listening to this who is drinking reverse osmosis water goes and runs and

Go order a six pack.

Yeah, go order a ton of it.

totally. And then the only extra ingredient we've got in there is organic inulin from agave. Because you do need, like we talked about, if we did this the cheap way, that would be citric acid. But we always try and use more naturally sourced ingredients and ingredients that have additional benefit in inulin as a prebiotic resistant starch.

It's good for gut health, so we always try and add something that like also has an additional

So their gut health, electrolytes,

Yeah, there you go. I dunno if we can really market that. 'cause it's a small amount. You guys will see, like our tagline is small scoop. Big good. So our scoops are so tiny.

so little.

We kind of had a reckoning about that too.

Like are people gonna be like, I'm getting ripped off. This is like, I paid $50 for this. Like, 'cause they're used to like giant stick packs or you know, big scoops. But

tiny scoop.

that's the whole story is like, yeah, we could have made it twice the size, but then three quarters of your scoop would be inulin and like not the beneficial ingredients.

So less, more.

I love the honesty and the ethics and the transparency. I'd really love to know because Same, I just helped support the creation of a perfume, a toxin-free

I have them right here.

You, oh, you have them? Oh, I'd love to know what you

I was so excited. I haven't tried them yet. They literally just came and I was like, this is perfect. 'cause we're hopping on.

yeah. I would maybe, when we're done with this interview, we can like stay on camera and you can gimme like your real time,

Ooh, I will. Real time review.

But I learned a lot of things like from the outside being a consumer and also somebody who's in the regulatory industry, right?

Being an attorney and, and being in the regulations, I already felt like I had a really good grip of what happens behind the scenes. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Until you start.

When you go into making something, it's a whole different level.

whole different perspective. It's a whole different level. And like you said, it's all what are the manufacturers willing to do?

What do you have access to? How can you find people, manufacturers, sourcing that is willing to give you what you're asking for and can you even find it? Because a lot of times it doesn't even exist. And so I do think companies, brands. Maybe start out really trying to want to do the right thing and they end up having to cut corners and, and maybe make compromises they didn't originally want to make, because that's kind of what the industry is right now.

Yeah. I think a lot of it with the electrolyte industry too, is I feel like it's been a bit stagnant for a few years because these big companies came in and they did an amazing job, right? People in mass amounts are realizing like Gatorade, powder aid, aren't it? And going towards cleaner options and that was a huge step.

I honestly feel like too, a lot of people, it's pretty unique to have someone like yourself or myself that are pretty informed making these products.

Yeah.

Uh, like we ask a lot more questions than maybe other founders or business owners would, you know? I think a lot of people are like, great. It's organic.

It's like all naturally made. It's like no sugar. We're using monk fruit instead, like fired off. 'cause our factory, like any factory that makes supplements, they're gonna have formulations pre-done for clean electrolytes. That's like, great. You want organic, you want this, you want this. We've got these 10 different flavors.

We can like run 'em off tomorrow. And I think a lot of people are like, cool with that Are like great. And they're just like recreating what everyone else has made.

Or what I see is they don't have the size of the order to do a custom formulation. So those manufacturers are like, well, we'll make it how you want us to, but you need an order of

Thousands.

Yeah. And these small companies are like, wait, we don't,

Right. They're like, we'd wanna run 500 and see how it goes. Yeah, totally. It's really interesting.

All right. Let's pivot a little bit to your magnesium, which I also have and love and have been taking, and I have other magnesiums that I have talked about that I like. I love this. I feel amazing on this. Can we talk about what's in this?

Yeah. So what's in it? This is another one in our next batch. We are tweaking a bit. Nothing major, but it's like if we're making a new one, we might as well improve it if we can. So the one you have has, , magnesium, three different forms of magnesium. It's around.

forms.

Yeah, it's around 200 milligrams of magnesium and a scoop and we have magnesium glycinate, which is my personal form, which is great for, it helps people sleep.

It's really good for anxiety. It helps like calm the mind. Helps a lot of moms feel less crazy. We have magnesium orate, which is amazing for heart health. Like no one puts orate in supplements and we are

I've

why? It's like an amazing form, great for heart health. It also has data on helping the gut brain connection, which is pretty cool.

And like the microbiome. And magnesium malate, which is a kind of classic form for joints, pain, inflammation, workout, recovery, all of that. And we really wanted to use zero forms of magnesium that disrupt the gut. A lot of people have bad experiences with magnesium like. You're immediately, you're running to the bathroom.

Yeah.

through you.

And I'm like, I, we don't need to create a laxative supplement. This is about people getting, it's the same story as our electrolytes. We are severely magnesium deficient, and so it's about a daily supplement people can take to replenish that mineral. We need.

and I also wanna share, and I think some people at home probably have already had this experience. It just like with the electrolytes, it's one of those supplements. It's immediate. I know so many people who are in my dms are like, oh my gosh, my anxiety is so much better. I have a girlfriend whose daughter's, a college student who suffered from insane migraines.

Which just crazy migraines. And for years I said, please take some magnesium. I actually just saw her a few weeks ago and I was like, so how's it going? How's college? You know, are things better with your like headaches? And she's like, oh my God, you're never gonna guess. I started taking magnesium baths.

And taking magnesium and they're completely gone. And I'm like, no way.

Uh,

but it's like something so simple and the anxiety is a big thing. Uh, you know, and I'm not saying that like all anxiety is caused by, you know, had not having enough magnesium. But I just know so many people who have personally had the experience of, when I take magnesium, my symptoms of my anxiety are so much

Mm-hmm.

Why is that?

Magnesium has a very calming effect on the body and it's very nervous system regulating, and it's magnesium is involved in over 800 biochemical processes in our body. I just soak that in for a second, guys. So it's like this stuff is just so foundational. Everyone gets stuck in the weeds with supplementation.

I'm gonna do this new fancy parasite cleanse. I wanna do this new like crazy nano glutathione that goes into my brain like, oh. Okay, rewind. Do you have minerals? Do you have magnesium? Are you hydrated? Are you sleeping? Are you outside? Ever? Like, are you, you know, like fundamentals, which is why we started with products that maybe aren't as like sexy.

Yeah.

But it's stuff everyone needs. Like if you are looking all in the weeds and doing all these crazy, fancy therapies, start with the basics. Like you're, I mean, I have a mentor that says the basics will fix 80% of people.

Oh my God, a hundred percent.

And so

all the fancy, crazy, hard, complicated, and I'm like, you. I'm like, how? How are you sleeping? Are you looking at the sunrise in the morning? How much time are you spending on your phone? Do you have bright lights in your house at night? Are you, are you scrolling your cell phone?

Four hours a day, what are you eating? Are you eating real food? And I, people don't wanna hear that. It's that stuff.

'cause it's harder. It's harder than like taking a, , a couple pills a day. Yeah, yeah. It's simpler. But it's harder to actually like make those changes on a long-term scale. But those provide by far the biggest impact. Like no one supplement, you know?

You're not gonna find health in a pill,

Mm-hmm.

but you definitely need some electrolytes and minerals and magnesium.

But anyway, magnesium powder might fix your issues.

Yeah.

A hundred percent. No, I love it. And I think that's why I was so excited to have you on is because we really like align on those values and I really struggle with the people who push all, like you said, like people always like, how do you feel about parasite cleanses? And I'm like, can we talk about something else? Like

Like literally anything else guys?

literally anything else other than that right now? I'm just, I'm really excited. I am gonna have you back because I do wanna do an episode digging into red light therapy.

Yeah, we should do that for sure

I'm a,

kind of same thing, there's a bunch of like junk out

Yep, yep.

you know, but like it is amazing when used the right way and in like high quality and all that.

So we'll have that conversation. But first, tell my audience where they can find all of your amazing products. And actually, I would, I would discount code, you guys gave me a discount code.

Yeah, well for sure may. I'll send that to you and we'll make sure it's up and running.

Fantastic. I will put that in the show notes so you can try their electrolytes and your magnesium and I would love to hear what you think about them. So hit up, you know, come into my dms. If you're watching on YouTube and you are already somebody who uses Fringe, just comment. Let me know what you think.

But we'll get those in your hands. And Dr. Abby Kramer, what do you, can I call you Abby? I'll just call you 📍 Abby.

Can you imagine if I was like, no, actually that's really

would, that would've been a clip. I would've made it a clip.

Hundred percent then you'd roast me based on my response.

I would, it would've been Awesome. Well, thanks for being here and we'll plan on having you back. Take care.

thanks.