Who says women can’t do whatever they want whenever they want and make a huge difference in people’s lives? You can even be a world-renowned female Elvis impersonator! Imagine getting your master’s in music after being a music and dance instructor, author, and motivational speaker and ramping it up to a new level to front your son’s rock band at the age of 57! Joan Minnery did just that. She got North American acclaim as a female Elvis impersonator and has never stopped. Her motto is Sing it loud, sing it proud – whatever it takes! Joan describes herself as a pint-sized blonde glitter Dolly Parton. Her son’s award-winning band is called SIVLE which is Elvis spelled backwards. They play everything from the 50s to current-day rock along with Southern Rock and original music. In addition to Elvis, Joan can also sing like Bette Midler or Janis Joplin. Get inspired and entertained by Joan's story and learn why she calls herself the Little Engine That Can in this episode with Shelley Johnson and Kathy Tuccaro.
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Kathy Taccaro:I'm Shelley and this is Kathy.
Kathy Taccaro:Who says women can't do what they want whenever they want and make a huge difference in people's lives.
Kathy Taccaro:Imagine going back to get your master's in music after being a music and dance instructor, author and motivational speaker and ramp it up to a new level to front your son's rock band.
Kathy Taccaro:At the age of 57, Joan Minery did just that.
Kathy Taccaro:Her motto is sing it loud, sing it proud, whatever it takes.
Kathy Taccaro:She also got famous as a female Elvis impersonator.
Kathy Taccaro:Joan describes herself as a pint sized blonde glitter Dolly Parton.
Kathy Taccaro:Her son's band is called Civil, which is Elvis spelled backwards.
Kathy Taccaro:They play Everything from the 50s to current day rock along with southern rock and original music.
Kathy Taccaro:Joan refers to herself as the little engine that can.
Kathy Taccaro:5ft 2 inches of peppy dynamite.
Kathy Taccaro:This pint sized energizer bunny is a beacon of energy as she entertains with her son's band and does motivational showcases in music, vocal and dance fitness classes across North America.
Kathy Taccaro:Her undergraduate degree is in child studies with a diploma in Early Childhood education.
Kathy Taccaro:She's received awards for her volunteerism and health advocacy.
Kathy Taccaro: In: Kathy Taccaro:We've got Joan with us today and we're looking forward to learning more about her.
Kathy Taccaro:Welcome Joan.
Kathy Taccaro:You are amazing.
Kathy Taccaro:Thank you for being on the show.
Joan Minery:Woohoo.
Joan Minery:Thank you.
Joan Minery:Quite the rock star.
Joan Minery:Thank you.
Joan Minery:Homework.
Joan Minery:Holy moly.
Joan Minery:Wow.
Kathy Taccaro:I'm exhausted just listening to all the stuff.
Joan Minery:A lot.
Joan Minery:Holy.
Joan Minery:Yeah, it's.
Joan Minery:It's a lot.
Joan Minery:It's.
Joan Minery:I know sometimes when, when I'm talking about myself and I certainly do love to talk about myself, but when I am reading my bio or someone else is reading it, I just think, wow, I did all that.
Joan Minery:Oh, I forgot I did that.
Joan Minery:Oops.
Joan Minery:Well, I forgot about that.
Joan Minery:Yeah, it's.
Joan Minery:It's been, it's been a whirlwind.
Joan Minery:I love every moment that I'm alive, but.
Joan Minery:And I've lived every moment that I've been alive, so.
Joan Minery:And we're not over yet.
Joan Minery:I'm just getting started.
Kathy Taccaro:There you go.
Kathy Taccaro:So how did all of this begin?
Kathy Taccaro:And what gets you up in the morning?
Joan Minery:Well, way back, way, way back in, in the 90s, I started line dancing.
Joan Minery:And I've always entertained, I've always sang, but I never sang professionally or did anything.
Joan Minery:But I started line dancing and just, I really got hooked and I really got hooked on line dancing.
Joan Minery:And our team at the time wanted to enter a line dancing competition in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
Joan Minery:And it was my idea.
Joan Minery:And I just, at the time, Billy Joel's song All Shook up from Honeymoon in Vegas had just come on the charts.
Joan Minery:And that was the big line dance song at the time.
Joan Minery:So we were going to do the competition to that song.
Joan Minery:But I say, why don't we do a tribute to Elvis?
Joan Minery:Why don't.
Joan Minery:And the next thing, the whole thing mushroomed.
Joan Minery:Next thing we were talking about, let's get Elvis jumpsuits, let's get Elvis wigs, let's get sunglasses.
Joan Minery:And then we, we brought in an Elvis impersonator to teach us how to do Elvis moves and Elvis dance moves.
Joan Minery:And the next thing, myself and our team captain at the time choreographed an Elvis inspired blind dance.
Joan Minery:And hence the Graceliners were born.
Joan Minery: rt Wayne, Indiana in March of: Joan Minery:That's where it all started.
Kathy Taccaro:Wow.
Joan Minery:Yeah.
Joan Minery:When we went out on that stage, five women dressed as Elvis and we never hid the fact that we were women.
Joan Minery:Most of us were quite bodacious.
Joan Minery:And so we never hid that we were just women, female line dancers dressed as, as Elvis.
Joan Minery:But when I went out and I was in the front and I stood across the stage on my knees and I knew we had something, I looked at that all American crowd and I went, if we can put this American crowd who love, you know.
Joan Minery:Well, I know you're American, but Americans love Elvis.
Kathy Taccaro:Yeah, right.
Joan Minery:Yeah.
Joan Minery:If we can put them on their feet, we have got something.
Joan Minery:Now the captain of the team at that time was only with us for that particular show.
Joan Minery:And then she, she moved west and so I took over and I went ballistic with it.
Joan Minery:Morning, noon and night, I ate, lived and dreamed the Graceliners.
Joan Minery:And we were featured in the National Examiner.
Joan Minery:We were contacted by Oprah Winfrey.
Joan Minery:We were on tabloids all over the world and we started traveling and yeah, the next thing we found out, we did not know at the time.
Joan Minery:There is a whole Elvis world out there.
Joan Minery:Oh yeah, there's Elvis basketballs, there's concerts.
Joan Minery:Well, we could know this.
Joan Minery:And we Started getting invited and we started becoming celebrities.
Kathy Taccaro:That's so cool.
Joan Minery:That's.
Joan Minery:That's where it started.
Joan Minery:So that was in.
Joan Minery:And so the dance team itself.
Joan Minery:Then I started singing within the dance team.
Joan Minery:So I started singing as, as an Elvis impersonator or an Elvis tribute artist as they like to be called now.
Joan Minery:And that's basically where it all really began.
Joan Minery:I always sang and I've always danced.
Joan Minery:I have always dreamed of being just an actress and a singer and a dancer and all that, but I had never done it.
Joan Minery:So I found myself.
Joan Minery:I was 29 and on this dance team and we were just, we really, really had something huge and it took off and yeah, that's where it started.
Kathy Taccaro:So I had a question.
Kathy Taccaro:Elvis line dancing.
Kathy Taccaro:Obviously he was known for his wiggles and stuff.
Kathy Taccaro:How exactly do you do an Elvis line dance?
Joan Minery:That's right.
Joan Minery:Yeah.
Joan Minery:Well, it's that he has.
Joan Minery:We started, we really started watching all of Elvis videos.
Joan Minery:Jailhouse Rock obviously because he choreographed that entire routine.
Joan Minery:But yeah, I got a lot of living to do like his early stuff.
Joan Minery:And we really started watching his dance move.
Joan Minery:So we started incorporating that.
Joan Minery:So you know, the most well known there's line dance in the world is Electric Slide and the Tush Push.
Joan Minery:So what we would do is we would take line dance steps and we would like, we do like a great white to the right and then we do an Elvis move and then we do a great fight to the left and then we throw in a couple that need Wiggles and that.
Joan Minery:But it, but we started, we, we started to a country in western song.
Joan Minery:But when we started our show, the Graceliner show, it was all to Elvis music.
Joan Minery: So like we came out with the: Joan Minery:And our three and a half minute routine ended up into a 45 minute show.
Joan Minery:And then we were traveling.
Joan Minery:We were like at Denim and Diamonds in New York.
Joan Minery:We were, you know, we were featured on cnn.
Joan Minery: ewspaper during ELVIS week of: Joan Minery:Like we were, we just went crazy.
Joan Minery:But yeah, we were, we would dance as Elvis, we looked as Elvis and then I started singing and things just kind of mushroom from there.
Joan Minery:And then lo and behold, I started winning a couple of Elvis competitions.
Kathy Taccaro:So very cool.
Joan Minery:Yeah.
Joan Minery:Male dominated world did not go over very well at first.
Joan Minery:But I, I think once they realized that we weren't trying to be, we were, we were, we were just moms and moms and grandmothers just having some Fun.
Joan Minery:And, you know, I just like, said, okay, well, we'll enter the contest.
Joan Minery:And I started winning or placing, so.
Joan Minery:And that's, that's, that.
Joan Minery:That's where it all started.
Joan Minery:And this is one thing after another.
Joan Minery:And I left the Great Sliders after three years.
Joan Minery:I formed a brand new group.
Joan Minery:I really wanted to sing and the girls wanted to dance, so they didn't.
Joan Minery:The whole singing thing, you know, they, they weren't singers.
Joan Minery:But I, I really found my voice by then, and I'd had a couple of people say, you know, John, you really need to be singing as yourself rather than singing as Elvis, because you have to change your voice.
Joan Minery:And so I started a brand new 50s and 60s group called Memphis Motion.
Joan Minery:And I was with that group for 13 years.
Joan Minery:And that's where the singing part of my career started.
Kathy Taccaro:Wow.
Joan Minery:And.
Joan Minery:And just completely mushroom because then, you know, I, I started my Janice Joplin tribute.
Joan Minery:And I love Bette Midler and, and all the.
Joan Minery:I, I'm a.
Joan Minery:I'm a very big Broadway voice and.
Joan Minery:Yeah.
Joan Minery:And it's just that the more that more that I sang and the more I went out there, the more I.
Joan Minery:I realized I was doing exactly what I was meant to do.
Joan Minery:So the dancing led to the singing, and the singing is where I have been from that moment to this.
Kathy Taccaro:So you've got a wide range.
Kathy Taccaro:Bette Midler, Janis Joplin, Elvis.
Kathy Taccaro:That's quite a juxtaposition.
Joan Minery:That is.
Joan Minery:Oh, gosh, I know.
Joan Minery:I tried it all.
Joan Minery:I don't do it all well, but I'll sing anything people ask me.
Joan Minery:Is there a song that you can't saying is.
Joan Minery:Everyone says, you know, John, you're so talented.
Joan Minery:And I said, yes, I cannot and I have tried, and I will not change the key.
Joan Minery:I cannot sing Think by Aretha Franklin.
Joan Minery:Cannot do it.
Joan Minery:It sounds horrible.
Joan Minery:That is.
Joan Minery:That is the song that has eluded me for my entire life.
Joan Minery:But yeah, and that's.
Joan Minery:And of course it's by Aretha, but I can sing other stuff by Aretha, but not that song.
Joan Minery:That's.
Joan Minery:That's my nemesis.
Kathy Taccaro:Well, you know, I would say that you have tackled a lot of other very complicated styles, you know, so that's pretty amazing.
Kathy Taccaro:And you refer to yourself as the little engine that can.
Kathy Taccaro:I can see why you really have.
Kathy Taccaro:Where did all of this take you 20 years hence from being at an Elvis line dance group.
Kathy Taccaro:What did you start doing after that?
Kathy Taccaro:I mean, I.
Kathy Taccaro:We really want to know, how did you start fronting for your son's band?
Kathy Taccaro:I mean, that.
Kathy Taccaro:That's amazing.
Joan Minery:Yes, that.
Joan Minery:That is.
Joan Minery:It was.
Joan Minery:It was an unexpected thing.
Joan Minery:I'm a motivational speaker and I had.
Joan Minery:I had also written a book.
Joan Minery:I used to be extremely heavy, and I wrote a book about my walking my way back to me and about my weight loss and had overcome a lot of adversity, some, you know, abusive relationships and toxic toxicity in my life.
Joan Minery:And so I wrote this book.
Joan Minery:And so I was putting on this motivational presentation here in my hometown of Brantford, Ontario.
Joan Minery:My son and his band partner at the time, Brad Bridges, and my son's name is Bill Minery.
Joan Minery:They were in a band, in a rock band.
Joan Minery:And I had asked them if they would come on stage with me so we could sing.
Joan Minery:I forget what song it was they were singing.
Joan Minery:I know I sang Can Help.
Joan Minery:Fallen in Love, for sure.
Joan Minery:Anyway, it doesn't really matter.
Joan Minery:I'll think about it as we're going on.
Joan Minery:But I'd asked them if they could play it live because I didn't want to sing it to tracks.
Joan Minery:And so they did.
Joan Minery:And then they also.
Joan Minery:Then I still have a line dance team, so we came on and dance to a Don't Be Cruel as well.
Joan Minery:But anyway, so they.
Joan Minery:We were singing and we had a lot of.
Joan Minery:Lot of success on.
Joan Minery:On that particular stage.
Joan Minery:And as I was coming off the stage, my son said to me, mom, I think we should form a band.
Joan Minery:Was my son at the time would be 25.
Joan Minery:And I said, what is it, Mom?
Joan Minery:I think we got something here.
Joan Minery:He said, that was great out there.
Joan Minery:He said, I, you know, I love performing with you and, you know, we need a, you know.
Joan Minery:You know.
Joan Minery:I said, would you have a band?
Joan Minery:He says, yeah, we have a band.
Joan Minery:He says, but I think we should form a band.
Joan Minery:And I went, you want to form a band with your mom?
Joan Minery:What?
Joan Minery:I was like, what?
Joan Minery:Exactly.
Joan Minery:And.
Joan Minery:And so I said.
Joan Minery:And then.
Joan Minery:And then Brad came off the stage too, and he says.
Joan Minery:And he said, yeah, I'd be down for that.
Joan Minery:I think that's really cool.
Joan Minery:He says, we know we all get along.
Joan Minery:We get this great sound.
Joan Minery:So we are.
Joan Minery:I remember this vividly three days after that particular performance.
Joan Minery:So we were only doing all the songs at the time.
Joan Minery:We went downstairs and the very first song that we did as a band in our basement was Creep by Radiohead.
Joan Minery:And I had never sang Creep before, but I had.
Joan Minery:I had seen it performed on American Idol by one of the contestants.
Joan Minery:And all three of us had this epiphany moment, this.
Joan Minery:And we Were all in tears, all three of us.
Joan Minery:We realized that the lyrics applied to our lives.
Joan Minery:We had all been called creeps.
Joan Minery:We had all been felt.
Joan Minery:We.
Joan Minery:We had all felt like creeps at times and that and people who, you know, wouldn't date us or wouldn't acknowledge us.
Joan Minery:But it was amazing, the sound.
Joan Minery:And that is the song that really catapulted the band because we were doing covers predominantly in the beginning.
Joan Minery:And the next thing we.
Joan Minery:So we worked out a 45 minute show.
Joan Minery:A lot of oldies, a lot of Beatles love, huge Beatles band, a lot of Elvis, a lot of Beatles, a lot of ccr, Janis Joplin.
Joan Minery:And then we would always like the catalyst would always be creep.
Joan Minery:We died.
Joan Minery:It's just the.
Joan Minery:I guess it's just the way because of my Broadway background, I wasn't singing that song as a rock and roll singer.
Joan Minery:I was singing it as if I wrote the song myself that it was.
Joan Minery:And it's.
Joan Minery:I was singing the story and we just felt it and every time we played it and the more we played it, the more people were being really affected in the audience.
Joan Minery:And we had a lot of men like just not visibly like bawling but crying like they were just like, wow.
Joan Minery:Like we, we have.
Joan Minery:And they were sharing with me, you know, how they, you know, walked up to a girl and asked her out on a date or asked her to dance in high school and always get lost crate, you know, and, and you know, looking at them and it had brought back that memory.
Joan Minery:So that's where we just started getting bookings.
Joan Minery:And the more and more that.
Joan Minery:That we were out the.
Joan Minery:The better of known we were becoming.
Joan Minery:My son decided on the name I was not because I, I just like, you know, my whole life has always been about all this.
Joan Minery:But he said, no, Mom.
Joan Minery:He said, it has to be that name.
Joan Minery:It has to be Sybil.
Joan Minery:He said Elvis is responsible for everything, everything musical to do with our family.
Joan Minery:It has to be that name.
Joan Minery:And so I say okay.
Joan Minery:I said, I said, well, you guys are.
Joan Minery:So you want to.
Joan Minery:So you want to be in a band with your mom.
Joan Minery:You want to call it Civil, which is Elvis spelled backwards.
Joan Minery:All right.
Kathy Taccaro:It's great.
Joan Minery:Yeah.
Joan Minery: here we, we formed in I think: Joan Minery:We, we've had a huge, wonderful run.
Joan Minery: And then in: Joan Minery:And my sister Anne, we started writing original music and we, we got.
Joan Minery:We got booked for this massive festival here in Brantford, Ontario at the time it was called what the Fest.
Joan Minery:It's now called Crew Fest, but at the time it's called what the Fest.
Joan Minery:And the criteria was it had to be original music.
Joan Minery:Well, we didn't have any original music.
Joan Minery:So we was like, that's it.
Joan Minery:We're going, we're going to get together.
Joan Minery:And so my son Bill, my brother Bob, my sister Ann and myself.
Joan Minery:So we got the four minories are writing music and then Brad, obviously Brad is with us as well.
Joan Minery:And so we started, we wrote original songs for, for that show.
Joan Minery:We did really well on the show.
Joan Minery:Then we recorded them.
Joan Minery:Brad went on to do.
Joan Minery:He joined another band and then, you know, it's wonderful, wonderful man and an amazing drummer.
Joan Minery:But he left and we brought in Dan Taylor who has been with us now for four years.
Joan Minery:He is our resident drummer and guitarist.
Joan Minery:He plays rhythm guitar, also plays 17 other instruments.
Joan Minery:And, and yeah, so we, we're now, you know, it's Dan and Bill and I.
Joan Minery:My brother Bob sometimes plays with us, although Bob is, he's more folk oriented.
Joan Minery:So like if we're doing a coffee house or like a type of folk type of venue, then he'll come out.
Joan Minery:But it's mainly just Dan and Bill and I and we've just released another album of all original tunes.
Kathy Taccaro:That's a lot more fun than retiring, don't you think?
Joan Minery:Yeah.
Joan Minery:Gosh, yeah.
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Kathy Taccaro:Joan Minary has an incredible attitude and gives back to people through music.
Kathy Taccaro:Her energy is nonstop and so is her talent.
Kathy Taccaro:She's been a female Elvis impersonator where she's gotten North American acclaim.
Kathy Taccaro:She won Elvis tribute competitions as a woman.
Kathy Taccaro:She was even contacted by Oprah.
Kathy Taccaro:People love her as an actress, singer and dancer.
Kathy Taccaro:She wowed the crowds doing Elvis line dancing with the Grace Liners.
Kathy Taccaro:She eventually went on to form the group Memphis Motion.
Kathy Taccaro:After years of doing that, she wasn't about to stop there.
Kathy Taccaro:At the age of 57, she decided to front for her son's band, which is called Civil or Elvis spelled backwards.
Kathy Taccaro:Along with original music, they play a lot of Elvis, Beatles and CCR and a lot of other oldies.
Kathy Taccaro:This year, they won first place gold for the International Singer Songwriters association for the best band single for Sing It Like Pearl.
Kathy Taccaro:That deserves a huge round of applause.
Kathy Taccaro:If you haven't heard Joan, she's got a big Broadway voice and she wows crowds all over.
Kathy Taccaro:She can even sing like Bette Midler and Janis Joplin.
Kathy Taccaro:If that isn't enough, Joan's also a motivational speaker, teacher, and author.
Kathy Taccaro:Joan is also an ordained chaplain with Channel of Peace Ministries.
Kathy Taccaro:Her aim is to spread peace through music, self awareness, grace, fellowship, goodwill, and community involvement.
Kathy Taccaro:Joan's accomplishments are truly amazing, especially with her son's band.
Kathy Taccaro:Joan, you guys are really, you're a sensation and you're kind of following in the footsteps of like the cow cells, which is what the Partridge Family was based on.
Kathy Taccaro:It's really on usual.
Kathy Taccaro:I would think that you could do really well on some of these competitions like America's Got Talent or something like that.
Kathy Taccaro:I mean, I think people could really dig what you're doing.
Joan Minery:Well, we, we get a lot of wonderful feedback from our audience.
Joan Minery:It's my son is Interracial and looks absolutely nothing like me.
Joan Minery:So I am blonde and blue eyed and big and short.
Joan Minery:And he, if I could compare him to anyone, including body wise, he looks like the Rock, you know, it looks like Dwayne Johnson.
Joan Minery:So a lot of people go, well, who's he?
Joan Minery:And I'll go, that's my son.
Joan Minery:And they'll go, what?
Joan Minery:My son.
Joan Minery:And, and, and he's, you know, he's got these great big huge arms.
Joan Minery:But we, once they find that out and of course when, when my brother Bob's out too, but it's just like, wow, what a wonderful family thing.
Joan Minery:And some people, I remember people when we first started, they were, they weren't making fun of him.
Joan Minery:They were, they were insinuating that I was making him do it.
Joan Minery:And it was like, oh, you gotta play with your mom, right?
Joan Minery:And he'd go, no, I want to be here.
Joan Minery:I love, I love being here.
Joan Minery:I love being with my mom.
Joan Minery:I just, I just love it.
Joan Minery:So like.
Joan Minery:And he's very defensive of that.
Joan Minery:And so, but that was how it was in the beginning.
Joan Minery:Now it's like, wow, this is so cool.
Joan Minery:And we've had so many parents who have come out going, wow, I wish I could do something with my child like this.
Joan Minery:Like, you know, and I, you know, now it's not how I expected things to be.
Joan Minery:And I know he does have other musical endeavors and other musical projects as well.
Joan Minery:And he's a, he's a heavy metal guitarist at heart and.
Kathy Taccaro:Oh wow, that's quite the contrast.
Joan Minery:Yeah, yeah.
Joan Minery:A massive, massive Metallica and Van Halen fan.
Joan Minery:And that's, that's where his roots are.
Joan Minery:But yeah, he does, but he's grown up on Elvis and the Beatles, so he always knew it.
Joan Minery:But he's very, he's very in tune, pun intended, with what I love.
Joan Minery:And so, and because like we are really, we are very, very close.
Joan Minery:We're a lot like Elvis and his mom.
Joan Minery:Very pretty.
Kathy Taccaro:Yeah, yeah.
Joan Minery:And yeah, so he just like, oh no, if you, you want a guitar player, well, I could just say, why would you hire anybody else?
Joan Minery:You hire me.
Joan Minery:I want to be up there with you mom.
Joan Minery:I love it.
Joan Minery:And you know, we have a, we have a very funny camaraderie on stage because, you know, like sometimes like, you know, I'll tell him to do something and I have to remember that he's not my son when we're up there.
Joan Minery:He's my bandmate, but I still kind of talk to him like he's my son, you know, or he'll just offhandedly say, mom, stop that.
Joan Minery:But, yeah, we have a huge following.
Joan Minery:We have a lot of fun when we're on stage.
Joan Minery:He's very quiet.
Joan Minery:Dan is very quiet.
Joan Minery:But sometimes I wonder if they're so quiet because my personality is just so gregarious.
Joan Minery:But, yeah, we just love what we're doing and we're having just monumental success with our band and we've just produced this brand new album and released it.
Joan Minery:The title song was written for my dad, who was a World War II veteran.
Joan Minery: He passed away in: Joan Minery:And as he would leave, he would tap on the table and he'd go, attention, ladies and gentlemen.
Joan Minery:And everybody would stop because my dad was so well known in the bar because he's a veteran.
Joan Minery:And he would go, bless this house and everybody in it.
Joan Minery:And everybody would raise a toast and they would cheer and off he would go.
Joan Minery:Well, when he passed, they put up a plaque in his corner and it says, you know, his name was also Bill.
Joan Minery: It says, William Minery: Joan Minery:Bless this house and everybody in it.
Joan Minery:We had kind of.
Joan Minery:Not that we had forgotten about the story, but, you know, we had, you know, involved and gone.
Joan Minery: we were at a gig In March of: Joan Minery:And I looked at him and I said, you have been sent from heaven.
Joan Minery:This is like man falling from the sky.
Joan Minery:We are literally writing an original album and we've been looking for the song.
Joan Minery:You have just written the song for us.
Joan Minery:So we wrote this song about my dad beating at McGonagall's, tapping his cane and saying, bless this house and everybody in it.
Joan Minery:And it turned.
Joan Minery:It's turned into.
Joan Minery:It was going to be a rock song.
Joan Minery:It's turned into a country groove hit.
Joan Minery:But that is all about my dad.
Joan Minery:And that's the title of the album as well.
Joan Minery:So it just.
Joan Minery:Just things kind of fall into our laps at times.
Joan Minery:And that was.
Joan Minery:Yeah, yeah.
Joan Minery:So that's.
Kathy Taccaro:That's wonderful.
Joan Minery:That's the name of our album and we're having great success with it.
Kathy Taccaro:It sounds like part of what brings all of this together is you've got an organic synergy, but you.
Kathy Taccaro:You have a message about life.
Kathy Taccaro:The things you're doing really resonate with people because it's real.
Joan Minery:Yeah, I.
Joan Minery:I'm.
Joan Minery:I'm unapologetically me.
Joan Minery:And, And I am real.
Joan Minery:I'm short, I'm overweight.
Joan Minery:I.
Joan Minery:But I'm also.
Joan Minery:I'm a mom who just absolutely loves her son and will do absolutely anything for him.
Joan Minery:I spoil him crazy.
Joan Minery:I have a wonderful boyfriend named Keith, and.
Joan Minery:But I teach music and I teach.
Joan Minery:I teach dance, but I'm always just me.
Joan Minery:And I love to have a lot of fun and.
Joan Minery:And I'm incredibly honest about myself and my struggles with my weight and my struggles with past relationships.
Joan Minery:And I think that resonates with a lot of people.
Joan Minery:And I think when I'm on stage, although I covered in glitter and I have really, really, really big blonde Dolly Partonier, but they see a mom, they see a mom, they see someone who's real and, you know, someone who, you know.
Joan Minery:Yeah.
Joan Minery:Sometimes struggles to pay the bills and, and, you know, sometimes doesn't always drive the way she should.
Joan Minery:Yeah.
Joan Minery:And.
Joan Minery:Yeah, just.
Joan Minery:Just out there just trying to.
Joan Minery:I'm.
Joan Minery:I'm living my dream.
Joan Minery:I.
Joan Minery:For my entire life, I wanted to be an actress, I wanted to be a singer, I wanted to be a dancer.
Joan Minery:Life got in the way.
Joan Minery:Marriage and some hardships in the family.
Joan Minery:And it just seemed when I was in my 40s and I finally decided to take care of my health, life really changed for me.
Joan Minery:I lived a very.
Joan Minery:I was always said way before 44, I was the loudest person in the room and I was the Comic Con stage, but I was the loneliest person in the entire.
Joan Minery:In the tiger, the entire room, in the entire venue.
Joan Minery: way from my life as it was in: Joan Minery:And I have never been happy in a romance.
Joan Minery:I've never.
Joan Minery:I've never met anyone who's of any substance.
Joan Minery: n I started teaching Zumba in: Joan Minery:And that's Keith.
Joan Minery:And then the romance started.
Joan Minery:And he was at the back of the class, then he was in the middle of the class.
Joan Minery:He came to the front row.
Joan Minery:Yeah.
Joan Minery:And then the next thing, we were on the dance floor together.
Joan Minery:And he's been my.
Joan Minery:He.
Joan Minery:I waited for him.
Joan Minery:I met him when I was 44.
Joan Minery:We got together when I was 46, and I waited for him for 46 years and I would wait another 46 if I knew I was going to meet him.
Kathy Taccaro:That's wonderful.
Joan Minery:Yeah.
Kathy Taccaro:That's the kind of stuff movies are about.
Joan Minery:Yeah.
Joan Minery:And it's funny, when he started talking to me, I kept saying to him, you know, I know your voice.
Joan Minery:I don't know what it is.
Joan Minery:And I kept thinking, does it remind me of an actor or a newscaster?
Joan Minery:And so I would always get him to talk to me.
Joan Minery:And I couldn't figure it out.
Joan Minery:I've heard your voice before.
Joan Minery:I know your voice.
Joan Minery:That day that he told me the three words he said, I love you, my soul just ignited.
Joan Minery:I went, that's the voice.
Joan Minery:I have heard this voice in my dreams.
Kathy Taccaro:Wow.
Joan Minery:I knew I knew that voice, but I couldn't put it together until I heard him say, I love you.
Joan Minery:I know what you are.
Joan Minery:Absolutely my destiny.
Joan Minery:Absolutely.
Joan Minery:You know, some say the line dancing led to the music, and the music led to Zumba and then weight loss and everything.
Joan Minery:And I really, honestly believe that my entire path and all the hardships was all meant to come together for, for me to meet him.
Joan Minery:Because then I appreciated what I, what I had and I was healthy and I was ready to permit myself to be happy finally.
Joan Minery:And what a gift I got.
Joan Minery:So I have the most amazing man.
Joan Minery:I'm in a fantastic band.
Joan Minery:I have a wonderful, supportive family, and I am teaching music, I'm teaching dance, I'm teaching fitness, and, and doing exactly what it is that I've always wanted to do.
Joan Minery:And, and yeah, I'm a late bloomer, but yeah, I was like 60.
Joan Minery:Yeah.
Kathy Taccaro:Who cares?
Joan Minery:Bring it on.
Kathy Taccaro:Yeah, bring.
Joan Minery:I gotta, I gotta tell you, I'm pretty envious of the, your, your son wanting to be on stage with you.
Joan Minery:Because my daughter, ever since she's been little, has been moment, don't sing.
Joan Minery:It's been the absolute opposite, opposite.
Joan Minery:And still to this day, she's, if I start to sing in the car, she'll give me the big eye roll and like, really, Mom?
Joan Minery:Really?
Joan Minery:Come on, man.
Joan Minery:There's people here.
Joan Minery:That's funny.
Joan Minery:I, I, I'm sure there's a couple of, there's a couple of moments that he has, he has wished that I, I, I don't do what I do.
Joan Minery:But he, he's my son Bill, that group now his nickname is BJ for Billy Joe from when he was little.
Joan Minery:And I still call him B.J.
Joan Minery:even though he, you know, he wants me to call him Belt.
Joan Minery:But he has always been my biggest fan.
Joan Minery:He, he always loved listen to his mom Saying, and.
Joan Minery:And I think because he was so young when I was with the Graceliners, because he was only like, he was five.
Joan Minery:And in fact, he was.
Joan Minery:He was interviewed by a reporter from the Toronto Star, and it was.
Joan Minery:This is kind of what catapulted us to some.
Joan Minery:Some fame because I went across a ticker tape and he said, what does your mommy do?
Joan Minery:And his exact response was, my mommy does Elvis.
Joan Minery:I love it.
Kathy Taccaro:That's great.
Joan Minery:Well, so that was picked up on the ticker tape.
Joan Minery:And the next thing, like, we.
Joan Minery:We had so many reporters contacting us, it's like, you know, boy.
Joan Minery:And I was like, well, he's.
Joan Minery:He's only five, so I don't.
Joan Minery:The double entendre of that he did not understand.
Joan Minery:He just sent mommy to us.
Joan Minery:Elvis.
Joan Minery:But that has been our life, so.
Joan Minery:And I have three floors of Elvis memorabilia in my house.
Joan Minery:And it's just.
Joan Minery:I have always been a huge fan.
Joan Minery:I believe that music is.
Joan Minery:They say love is the international language.
Joan Minery:I believe that it's music.
Joan Minery:And I firmly, firmly content that Elvis is the epitome of that.
Kathy Taccaro:You know, Elvis was such an influence to all of the major rock groups and even people today that are musicians.
Kathy Taccaro:I mean, he made a huge impact, not only in the music industry, but with people.
Kathy Taccaro:And he really was very.
Kathy Taccaro:He included everyone, too.
Kathy Taccaro:Everyone, you know, in.
Kathy Taccaro:In spite of the fact there was pushback in the music industry, he's like, no, I want these people in my show.
Kathy Taccaro:And he was steadfast about it.
Kathy Taccaro:So, I mean, he made such a wonderful impact on humanity, a wonderful change in inclusion in all of that.
Kathy Taccaro:And, yes, he got some pushback certainly in the very beginning, you know, what is that wiggling?
Kathy Taccaro:What was it on the Ed Sullivan show?
Kathy Taccaro:They had to always shoot him from the waist up because.
Joan Minery:The waist up?
Joan Minery:Yeah.
Joan Minery:How dare you.
Joan Minery:How dare you move your hips in the.
Joan Minery:The girls were having these reactions that they didn't understand what was going on with their bodies.
Joan Minery:Oh, right.
Joan Minery:They knew something was tingling, right?
Kathy Taccaro:Yeah.
Joan Minery:Oh, mom, what is that feeling?
Joan Minery:Then the girls are turning around and seeing their moms out with the same belly, too.
Joan Minery:It's like, oh, we got a problem.
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Kathy Taccaro:Joan Minary doesn't believe in stopping just because the calendar says she's a certain age.
Kathy Taccaro:What is age these days anyway?
Kathy Taccaro:People are way too concerned with what year they were born and they make that an excuse not to do something.
Kathy Taccaro:Years ago, Joan made herself a household name by being an Elvis impersonator.
Kathy Taccaro:As a woman, she got North American acclaim and was featured by major media.
Kathy Taccaro:She also got huge attention for her versatile vocal styles, acting and line dancing with the group the Graceliners.
Kathy Taccaro:She's extremely busy these days as a motivational speaker, teacher, chaplain, and author.
Kathy Taccaro:She also fronts for her son's band, which is called Civil, which is Elvis spelled backwards.
Kathy Taccaro:Joan started that endeavor at the age of 57.
Kathy Taccaro:Her accomplishments are amazing, and she says never say no to anything.
Kathy Taccaro:We're glad she isn't.
Kathy Taccaro:She's a great inspiration.
Kathy Taccaro:I still think it's amazing that a lot of what Joan does now began as a female Elvis impersonator.
Kathy Taccaro:Joan, it was wonderful that you could take Elvis to the forefront and influence your son and get his interest in music.
Joan Minery:Yeah.
Kathy Taccaro:And what you're doing now, I think you're motivating a lot of people and you're a motivational speaker, too.
Kathy Taccaro:I'm kind of curious, what kind of motivational speaking do you do?
Joan Minery: eight loss because I, back in: Kathy Taccaro:Congratulations.
Joan Minery:Thank you.
Joan Minery:Thank you.
Joan Minery:It was a lot of hard work.
Joan Minery:But anyway, so I started speaking for Tops.
Joan Minery:Taking off pound sensibly.
Joan Minery:That was where my first started.
Joan Minery:Then I started branching out to a lot of other weight loss groups.
Joan Minery:But then my, I just, my, my topics kind of started, you know, talking about empowering women and, you know, music and movement and, you know, just a couple other things, you know, like the hospitality of community music, the focus on seniors.
Joan Minery:I do a talk on that about the art of movement.
Joan Minery:And I really, really started getting into this whole I am conceptual, this like the I am concept of self love and self empowerment and to live in the I am not.
Joan Minery:I will.
Joan Minery:And so I do do a couple of.
Joan Minery:I have various things.
Joan Minery:Depends on who contacts me.
Joan Minery:I always bring it back to my story of, you know, I was in, you know, a horrible relationship and a couple of issues of abuse and domestic discord, but about, you know, how I overcame some adversity.
Joan Minery:And it's not so much about weight loss now.
Joan Minery:It's just that I talked about the fact that.
Joan Minery:About self care, of how my health led to my mental health and which was like.
Joan Minery:And it needed repairing.
Joan Minery:And that's where we are in a lot of my shows.
Joan Minery:I think I do, you know, you know, put down the fork and get moving and, you know, talk about women in Spotlight.
Joan Minery:And right now I'm doing a lot of, you know, the.
Joan Minery:How women are treated in the music industry because we are.
Joan Minery:We still and are not treated equal.
Joan Minery:We still have it.
Joan Minery:You can see what's happening right now with Taylor Swift.
Joan Minery:You know, she is the most successful entertainer in the world right now.
Joan Minery:And we are so obsessed with the fact that, you know, she's at a.
Joan Minery:At a football game and being.
Joan Minery:And being made fun of because she happens to have a love story.
Joan Minery:If that, if it had been the other way, no one would be worried about it.
Joan Minery:But it's just like, oh, well, her, you know, her music sucks and she's this and she's that and it's just, oh, gosh, yeah, Kim.
Joan Minery:And Kim, just please stop.
Joan Minery:But you know, in the, you know, Dolly, you know, what she's going through and you know, they talk about someone who is giving back to the world, not just the community, the world.
Joan Minery:And you know, where we, instead of applauding her for all of her efforts, we, you know, make fun of her because she's in her 70s and put on a Dallas cheerleaders outfit.
Joan Minery:You know, hello.
Joan Minery:She looks amazing.
Kathy Taccaro:She rocked that outfit.
Kathy Taccaro:I'm sorry.
Kathy Taccaro:She looked amazing.
Kathy Taccaro:Yeah, it's like, hello.
Joan Minery:But we, yeah, so it's.
Joan Minery:It's okay for our very notable actors.
Joan Minery:We all know who they are, who've just had.
Joan Minery:Who are in their late 70s and 80s, have just had babies where, you know, we're, you know, we're going on and on about how wonderful it is that and it is, it's, you know, wonderful that Stones have, you know, the number one album in the world and, and we're, we're telling Cher and Madonna that they shouldn't be on, they shouldn't be on stage.
Joan Minery:They need to go home.
Joan Minery:Go home and be grandmothers.
Kathy Taccaro:Yeah.
Kathy Taccaro:Isn't that garbage?
Kathy Taccaro:It's just ridiculous.
Joan Minery:You know, it's nonsense.
Kathy Taccaro:The Rolling Stones are being sponsored by aarp.
Kathy Taccaro:Nobody's got a problem with that.
Kathy Taccaro:And you know, but you're right, the judgmental, the judginess with women still goes on.
Kathy Taccaro:It's like, why?
Joan Minery:Yeah.
Joan Minery:And I experience it.
Joan Minery:I know it.
Joan Minery:As a festival director.
Joan Minery:I ran couple of festivals here in town when you were at the helm.
Joan Minery:You get the.
Joan Minery:Well, you're, you know, you're a bitch.
Joan Minery:You know, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're not a, you're or you're, you're sergeant major, whereas.
Joan Minery:And you, you're, you're short and you're fat or you're old and you're, you're this and you're that.
Joan Minery:You know, they don't do that to men.
Kathy Taccaro:No, they don't.
Kathy Taccaro:No.
Kathy Taccaro:Oh, they're there, they're distinguished, aren't they?
Joan Minery:You know, they're the captain, they're the.
Joan Minery:But, but a woman in authority, automatically, she gets this.
Joan Minery:You know, she's, she's a witch.
Joan Minery:Okay, She's a witch with a bee.
Joan Minery:And, yeah, and, and, and I'm not, I'm just so far removed from the, from being that, that type of person.
Joan Minery:Very fair and very fun loving.
Joan Minery:But when you're in charge of something, people automatically, they just, oh, she must be, you know, oh, she's hard to deal with or she's, you know, she's difficult.
Joan Minery:And, but, and in the music industry, you know, you've got ageism and, you know, I know understandably, if I'm going up against someone and just, you know, like Billie Eilish or Taylor Swift, they're going to choose them because of their youthfulness.
Joan Minery:But I, I find it sometimes when we're trying to get gigs, when I go in, I see it because I, I'm looking at bar owners or brewery orders who are usually, you know, men in their mid-30s.
Joan Minery:And they're looking at me thinking, oh, I don't know if I want you singing here.
Joan Minery:So I got, but if I send in the guys, you know, and they say, let's say, oh, okay, yeah, we'll hire you.
Kathy Taccaro:Yeah.
Joan Minery:And then, and then so then they watch the band and they go, oh, wow, you guys are really good.
Joan Minery:It's like, well, so you didn't think I was good by myself?
Joan Minery:You.
Joan Minery:So when I logged in here as this, you know, 57 year old woman, you automatically assumed that I was no good?
Kathy Taccaro:Yeah.
Kathy Taccaro:Isn't that amazing?
Kathy Taccaro:The stereotypes, the judge, the judgment calls, you know, judging a book by its cover, it seems to happen more with women.
Kathy Taccaro:And, you know, the word assume.
Kathy Taccaro:I was taught that the word assume means you make an ass out of you and me.
Kathy Taccaro:Never make assumptions, you know.
Joan Minery:Yep.
Kathy Taccaro:And it seems to go on unfortunately with women, and I'm hoping it changes.
Kathy Taccaro:And certainly, Joan, with what you're doing, this is really giving the message that yes, you can and heck with all the naysayers.
Joan Minery:Yeah, to heck with it.
Joan Minery:I, you know, we, we got really slammed with, as did a lot of musicians and a lot of musical people because of COVID And like, we lost a lot of work.
Joan Minery:And I was out of work for two years at the centers where I teach dance.
Joan Minery:I closed down, which is what brought me to going back to school.
Joan Minery:I was like, I'm never going to be out of work again.
Joan Minery:I'm going back to school.
Joan Minery:I'm getting my master's.
Joan Minery:And again, I was the oldest person in the room and locked in there with all guns of blaring and went, you know, I'm here and you know, and graduated with my youthful class and had people just like literally standing in the aisles cheering me as I was going across the stage at Wilson.
Kathy Taccaro:That's so great.
Joan Minery:Yeah.
Joan Minery:And I just like, no, I, I'm, I'm doing this.
Joan Minery:I, I, my motto for the last five years has been say no to nothing.
Joan Minery:Whatever.
Kathy Taccaro:I love it.
Kathy Taccaro:I love it.
Joan Minery:I will.
Joan Minery:Whatever comes up, I'm, I'm gonna do.
Joan Minery:And when this thing about going back to school came up, I went, yep, I'm gonna do that.
Joan Minery:And I was like, yeah, I will.
Joan Minery:You know, and if, you know, I gotta fly somewhere or if I gotta go travel somewhere, or, you know, if we're playing a bowling alley, we'll say yes.
Joan Minery:We're playing on a, you know, 3,000 seater, we'll say yes.
Joan Minery:I say no to nothing.
Kathy Taccaro:I think that's a terrific mindset and something that everybody can take away and say, you know, she's got it, she's got it.
Kathy Taccaro:Joan, what would you be your advice to women if they really want to do something?
Kathy Taccaro:But they've always kind of said, well, I can't.
Kathy Taccaro:Or people have said, I can't.
Kathy Taccaro:It's too late.
Kathy Taccaro:What's your advice?
Joan Minery:Oh, gosh, I.
Joan Minery:What's my advice for someone who says they can't see?
Joan Minery:I don't have that mindset.
Joan Minery:I would tell them to quietly close the door in the bathroom and look in the mirror and look and talk to themselves.
Joan Minery:Nobody else.
Joan Minery:Just, you know, me, myself, and I.
Joan Minery:And tell yourself in the mirror why you can't do it, because a lot of people can't do that.
Joan Minery:You can't tell your.
Joan Minery:You can say it, but when you're actually looking at yourself and it's like, now tell yourself why.
Joan Minery:But look into your eyes in that mirror.
Joan Minery:Look into your eyes.
Joan Minery:And to say if, just for example, if you've always wanted to.
Joan Minery:You always wanted to go back to school, you can put a thousand obstacles in front of you.
Joan Minery:But when you are looking at yourself in your eyes, in the mirror, tell yourself why you want to go back to school.
Joan Minery:And then those whys need to be yeses.
Joan Minery:And it's like, no, no.
Joan Minery:So you walked in here, you walked into the room saying, I can't do it.
Joan Minery:But I want you to walk out of the room saying, you can do it, but you gotta look at yourself in.
Joan Minery:In that mirror and just keep saying it over and over and over again.
Joan Minery:Yes, I can.
Joan Minery:Yes, I can.
Joan Minery:Yes, I can.
Joan Minery:Yes, I can.
Joan Minery:And you need to live in the complete.
Joan Minery:I am not.
Joan Minery:I will not.
Joan Minery:I was not.
Joan Minery:I should have.
Joan Minery:It's the I am.
Joan Minery:And say, I am going back to school.
Joan Minery:I am taking a dance class.
Joan Minery:I am going to get a new job.
Joan Minery:I am going to get my driver's license.
Joan Minery:I am.
Joan Minery:And even If I am 150 pounds, I am a size 10.
Joan Minery:I don't care if you weigh 350 pounds.
Joan Minery:You keep saying the I am the I.
Joan Minery:Because everything you are responsible for the energy you bring into your own space.
Joan Minery:And that's what you need to do in that bathroom.
Joan Minery:You need to revitalize that energy, bring it back into your own space and this.
Joan Minery:Live in the complete.
Joan Minery:I am.
Joan Minery:I am.
Kathy Taccaro:I love you.
Joan Minery:Yeah, yeah.
Kathy Taccaro:Totally positive affirmations like that.
Kathy Taccaro:They're so powerful.
Kathy Taccaro:Joan, I would love to continue picking your brain here because you've got some wonderful philosophies on life, but we have to kind of wrap it up.
Joan Minery:Totally understand that.
Kathy Taccaro:Where do people reach you?
Kathy Taccaro:Where can they follow the band?
Kathy Taccaro:Where can they buy the music?
Kathy Taccaro:You got all kinds of things out there that people can check out.
Joan Minery:Yeah, well, to find me, myself and I just go to my website, which is joan minery.com so j o A N M I N n e r y.com so there you're going to find out about me, my motivational shows, my dance fitness stuff, my books and stuff like that.
Joan Minery:If you want to buy our music or.
Joan Minery:And support the band Spotify.
Joan Minery:And you're looking for civil S I V L E and you're looking for civil from.
Joan Minery:From Canada.
Joan Minery:And.
Joan Minery:Or you'll also find all of our.
Joan Minery:The links for civil are also on my website.
Joan Minery:Facebook.
Joan Minery:I'm under Joan Minery.
Joan Minery:It's just Facebook.com Joan Minery and I have a public page.
Joan Minery:You're more than welcome to find any information about that.
Joan Minery:Same thing.
Joan Minery:Twitter, slash Joan Minery.
Joan Minery:Instagram slash Joan Minery.
Joan Minery:So it's a.
Joan Minery:I got very easy to find, but really the best place.
Joan Minery:Just go to my website.
Joan Minery:You'll find out all the information there.
Joan Minery:And if you don't find, you'll find links to a lot of our music and all of our activities and stuff that we're doing.
Kathy Taccaro:This is wonderful.
Kathy Taccaro:I really have enjoyed talking to you, Jo.
Joan Minery:Thank you.
Joan Minery:Thank you so much.
Joan Minery:I've done a lot of talking.
Kathy Taccaro:No, that's good.
Kathy Taccaro:Oh, absolutely.
Joan Minery:Great.
Kathy Taccaro:You got me energized.
Kathy Taccaro:I need to get into some sort of a line dance and I'm not sure what kind of swivel I'm going to be doing, but I think this is great.
Joan Minery:Yeah.
Joan Minery:Well, I'm really, I'm really happy to see line dancing has made a huge comeback.
Joan Minery:Zumba took over and line dancing has really made a big comeback in the last couple years, but we're excited to be back again.
Joan Minery:So.
Joan Minery:Yeah, I just, I just keep doing it.
Joan Minery:I'm again, say no to nothing and, and I'm here.
Joan Minery:I'm again, I'm.
Joan Minery:I'm two years off at 60 and there.
Joan Minery:There ain't no stopping me.
Joan Minery:Love it here.
Kathy Taccaro:Yeah, I love it.
Kathy Taccaro:Thank you, Joan.
Joan Minery:Thank you.
Joan Minery:Thank you.
Joan Minery:Yeah, thank you.
Joan Minery:Thank you very much.
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