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Silence is Golden - especially for HSPs - with "Golden" authors Justin Zorn and Leigh Marz
Episode 1119th September 2022 • Happy Space Podcast with Clare Kumar • Clare Kumar
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Noise can be one of the biggest challenges for sensitive people causing us to startle, experience significant stress and lose our focus. I have lived this acutely hence my passion (and longer than usual preamble) to my discussion with Justin Zorn and Leigh Marz, the authors of Golden - The Power of Silence in a World Full of Noise. Leigh and Justin bring to life their examination of not only our relationship to sound and how society often undervalues silence, but also practical ways to successfully engage with this top stressor.

Trained through Harvard and Oxford, Justin combines expertise in policy making with meditation and specializes in the economics of well-being. Leigh works with federal agencies, universities and organizations like NASA as consultant and coach. Justin and Leigh are also co-founders of Astrea Strategies, a consulting firm that helps “turn down the volume” for their clients so they can find and implement “creative and enduring solutions”.

Show Notes

Enjoy listening as we speak about:

00:02:51 Noisy neighbours in Tokyo and Toronto

00:08:08 Meet authors Leigh Marz and Justin Zorn

00:11:57 Redefining our relationship to silence

00:12:52 Inspiration for the book

00:14:56 Progress does not value silence

00:16:30 The journey of different possibilities

00:19:55 Personal choices versus what we can control

00:24:30 Case study - Jarvis J. Masters in San Quentin prison

00:35:09 Noise - the cruel absence of care

00:44:03 Definitions of silence

00:51:27 Invitation for more quiet and reflection


Golden - The Power of Silence in a World Full of Noise 

Astrea Strategies

Sand Talk - Tyson Yunkaporta

Art Galley of Ontario

Royal Ontario Museum

How to Design with Sensitivity in Mind - ep 2 - Happy Space Podcast

Padraig Ó Tuama Irish poet and theologian

Pir Shabda Kahn Sufi teacher and mystic

Joan Halifax  Zen Buddhist teacher

Ethan Kross  Psychologist/Author 

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This podcast is hosted by Clare Kumar. As a productivity catalyst, highly sensitive executive coach, and speaker, Clare cultivates sustainable performance in busy professionals so they can keep making rich contributions in all areas of life and achieve greater fulfillment. She inspires leaders, professionals, employees, and entrepreneurs to respect humanity and boost performance through marrying productivity and pleasure. After all, why shouldn’t you have fun while getting things done? If you're a visual learner, we’ve crafted a version for YouTube as well.

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