Laura and Xhafer discuss which Cylon is most likely to own ferrets and sci-fi's most destructive throuple. Laura is mad at Starbuck, again. Xhafer figures out where the corners of BSG's paper supply went. This episode covers Battlestar Galactica Season 3, Episode 10: The Passage.

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Hey, listener.

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Today's episode of Battlestar

Galactica deals with some really

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heavy stuff, including drugs abusive

behavior from intimate partners and

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suicide ish adjacent uh, behavior.

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So if any of that's gonna be rough for

you today, go ahead and skip this one.

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We'll catch you on the next.

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Stay safe.

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Xhafer: Hello and welcome to Who Are You?

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This is a reasonably well done watch

cast hosted by two former strangers.

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Now friends who are currently watching

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I'm Jair.

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Laura: And I'm Laura.

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Xhafer: It's a heavy one today.

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Laura: It's a bit of a downer as we say.

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Xhafer: This is like, I have, I've

known this episode was coming.

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Right.

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I didn't know.

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I, I, I've, I, I didn't know exactly

when it was until we were into

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season three and I was kind of

peeking ahead to see when some stuff

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is, and I'm all like, the passage.

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That's, that's not the one is it?

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It

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Laura: the one

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Xhafer: uh,

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Laura: yeah.

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Xhafer: fucking episode.

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Laura: wanna do a little

like lighthearted stuff

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first before we talk

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about a downer?

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Xhafer: I would love, to do something

a little lighthearted before we talk

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about this fucking downer of an episode.

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Laura: I did promise in the discord

that we were going to be doing an

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opener directed at listener faith.

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Xhafer: faith had brought it to our

attention that Hilo is a Paladin

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Heart degree and one bit from Babylon.

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Five that we haven't brought

over was character classes.

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We did a little bit of that on

P five, and I think that'd be

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fun to bring back over here.

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Laura: I do too.

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Xhafer: So, so we're, we're doing it

and I think I'm gonna go, I'm gonna

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lead us off with what I feel like

is the most obvious one we have.

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Laura: I sure hope it's

not the one I came up with.

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Okay, go ahead.

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Xhafer: Is it that billed DAMA is a Bard?

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Laura: I didn't put Bill Adama as a bard.

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Xhafer: What do you got,

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do you have, do you also have billed dama?

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Because I could see some

cross class with him.

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I,

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Laura: I have I think a better Bard.

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I'm gonna argue that there is

a better Bard than Bill Adama.

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I'm not gonna say that

your, your argument's bad,

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but I think I have a better

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Xhafer: okay.

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I will say that Bard.

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If you haven't played d and d,

Bard is not necessarily music.

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Laura: I know, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Or you can do speeches.

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Oratory, Bard's a real, and I feel like

he's, he's the speech, he's the speechies.

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Laura: he is very speechy.

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Um,

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Xhafer: He's very

inspiring with his speechy.

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Laura: that is true.

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He, he does give points to

inspiration, doesn't he?

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Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: to some of our other

Speechy characters who do

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it as an act of persuasion.

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And I would argue are rogues.

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Laura: Hmm.

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Well, I was, I was thinking that Mr.

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Gaas, Baltar is a bard because he

sure has everyone convinced that he's

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a lot smarter than he actually is.

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Just that charisma, just

shining through and he's got a

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whole bunch of people snowed.

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Xhafer: he could be.

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Bard, he could be a Bard Rogue type.

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I feel he's, he's kind of in

the middle compared to because

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he is very skill based as well.

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He's very handy.

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He's, he, he builds things artificer

maybe which is outside of the core

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purview of d and d classes, admittedly.

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Laura: Uhhuh.

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Okay.

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Xhafer: and also they're not the

people who are good at lying and shit.

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So,

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Um, you know what might actually be really

interesting for Baltar specifically,

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it's another charisma based class

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Laura: yeah, sure.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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I could maybe buy into Warlock

with like the sciencey shit.

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Xhafer: Yeah, so Warlocks very

specifically get their powers by

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making a pact with a higher power.

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And in this case, I would argue

that his pact is with the silences.

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Laura: I really like that.

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Yeah.

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I'm down.

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Gais, Baltar can be a warlock.

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I'll, I'll take it.

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Yeah,

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Xhafer: from their patrons sometimes,

which could be six pt, like

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Laura: It's right there.

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It's right there.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: What else do you got for me?

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Xhafer: Um, I would say that Lee is a,

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I think Lee is either, I think he

might be a I'm trying to avoid spoilers

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for where Lee's character goes.

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Laura: Give me where Lee is at

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Xhafer: Where Lee right now is

at, is probably a little more

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palini, a little more larky maybe.

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Um, but definitely like

cross classed with fighter.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: Um,

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Laura: Give me some cleric.

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I, I'm feeling

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Xhafer: yeah, cleric is where

I think he ends up to be clear.

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Um,

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Laura: He has kind of like a

righteous thing going on, and I'm

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Xhafer: that that can be, that's something

you get with clerics and Paladins.

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They can, they can have

that righteous streak.

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Um, but it's more about how they go

about their problem solving, I would

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say would be probably the bigger

distinguisher between the two, which

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paladins are a lot more smashy and

clerics are a lot more magic, or at

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the very least, solving the problem.

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You know, in uh, different ways.

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And I think that that's something

that Lee has been growing into

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over the course of the show.

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And I don't think it's too much

of a spoiler for me to say he

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will continue to grow into that.

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I think he starts as a fighter.

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Like maybe even like the

first couple episodes.

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Don't, maybe even Barb.

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I mean, Carra is barbarian.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Carras Barbarian.

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Xhafer: uh,

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Laura: Is Sa Tai old Barbarian?

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Is he retired?

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Barbarian?

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Xhafer: could be an

old barbarian for sure.

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He does kind of have old

Klingon vibes sometimes.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: Um,

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Laura: Yeah.

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True, true.

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Xhafer: Not just because the eye patch.

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I could see Ty being a retired barbarian.

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I could see Ty being a monk uh, because

he's very strict on his code and his

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code matters to like, this is like

really a three five E monk more than

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like a modern monk uh, where they're

very strict on their, their code.

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Um,

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Laura: okay.

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Okay.

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Xhafer: And also like, you

know, he beat a dude with a pipe

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that's an improvised weapon.

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Laura: Fair?

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: He, he uses flurry of

blows, but it's just to take drinks.

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Um, and also drunken

master is a monk subclass.

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So,

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Laura: Yeah.

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Okay, I'll take it.

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He started a barbarian and

he, he like worked his way

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Xhafer: to monk.

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Okay.

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I believe that.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Can we class?

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And he silenced, like, are,

are any cylons anything?

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A six?

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Xhafer: A cleric.

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Laura: Tiana's.

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A cleric.

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Yeah.

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She's, she's a bit religious.

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Right?

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Is is six Maybe a sorcerer sorcerer.

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Xhafer: I could see six being a sorcerer.

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I'd buy that.

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Um, compared to Simon,

who's more of a wizard, I,

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Laura: Okay.

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Xhafer: Doral.

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Doral.

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might be just a fighter.

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Dole's bland,

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: dole's bland on purpose.

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Um,

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: I would say that

our Sharons are rogues.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Okay.

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Xhafer: That feels right

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Laura: I can, I can get down with that.

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Sure.

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Xhafer: maybe even like

some spell casty rogues.

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They do some shit.

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Um, oh, caval, caval,

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Laura: or Leo as well,

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like,

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Xhafer: uh,

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me being so careful to not

say something I shouldn't.

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Um, so Caval,

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I don't know, motherfucker's not a class.

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Um,

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Laura: Is he a different kind of monk?

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Xhafer: Cavel.

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Cavel might be a ranger.

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Laura: Hmm

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Xhafer: When I think Cavel, I'm thinking

like a Spycraft tactician, I'm thinking

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a like three, five scout almost.

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Um, where instead of having favored

enemies, you have favored terrain.

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And it's all about like being the master

of your surroundings and kind of making

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things happen in certain ways around you.

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That's not really a thing that Five does.

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Like current d and d really has

a character that kind of fills

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that slot particularly well.

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You could do it with like Aroy character,

you could do it with a Rangey character.

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no one's got like an Animal Companion

or anything, which is a big part

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of Current Rogue or current Ranger.

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Um, so I don't like, I'm definitely

thinking older versions of classes in

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different versions of similar classes.

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Different systems for

him are a lot better fit.

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Yeah.

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I

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Laura: I think if one of our CYS has an

animal companion, it's a weasel, right?

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Xhafer: it bin has a weasel.

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You can't tell me actually.

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Correction bin has ferrets

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: a hundred percent.

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Laura: Yep.

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Definitely.

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Xhafer: Now are they silent ferrets or

have, do they just have like a planet of

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the ferrets that they go to freely opens?

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Laura: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Lee Bins are the caretakers

of the planet, of the

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Xhafer: yeah, like they, they took

a bunch of ferrets with them you

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know, when they pieced and arm day

populated a perfect planet for ferrets.

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And then the Leos, that's what

they're doing most of the time.

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That's why we never see Leos

around is 'cause they're just

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all on the planet of the ferrets.

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Laura: They're, they're all either

torturing Carra or on planet of

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the ferrets doing ferret shit.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: yeah, I don't know.

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I feel like there's a couple other main

characters that we probably didn't cover.

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Laura: Yeah.

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There is.

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Do you, do you wanna do it now

or you wanna save it for another

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Xhafer: I mean,

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Laura: Did you have one burning in your

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Xhafer: no, I just wanted

to call Bill Adamo a Bard.

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Um, Rosalyn I feel is a rogue,

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Laura: Oh,

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Xhafer: she's a well-intentioned

rogue, but a rogue, nevertheless.

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Laura: Yeah, she's scrappy.

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I was trying to figure out, I was

like, is she like, I mean, she doesn't

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have like sciencey powers or anything,

so I can't really call her a wizard.

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She's kind, she really gets

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Xhafer: a wizard.

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She's a bureaucracy wizard.

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Laura: Oh yes, Tori, a

hundred percent bureaucracy

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Xhafer: Also Tyro Wizard.

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A hundred percent a

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Laura: Yeah, he's Machine

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Xhafer: yeah, actually an

Artificer if we count Artificers.

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But if we don't count Artificers,

he's a wizard who makes like the

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equivalent of Golum and stuff.

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There's like a whole type of wizard

that's like specializes in making shit.

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Laura: Yeah,

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Xhafer: One of

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Laura: I can buy that.

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Yeah.

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Very good.

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Very good.

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I think we've, we've gotten through.

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The main ones.

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And if, if we missed one

listener that you really want to

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Xhafer: Oh wait, actually anyone we didn't

mention that you have strong feelings

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about, we knew and we didn't mention it.

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Since you could get in the Discord

and tell us your opinion 'cause

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that's how much we respect you all

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Laura: Exactly.

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Come to the Discord.

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Tell us about it.

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Xhafer: Please buy that.

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Um,

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Laura: We didn't hit the character,

the character of the episode.

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Should we, should we

honor the character of the

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Xhafer: give poor one

out for cat real quick.

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Laura: poor one out for

Kat and select Kat's class?

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Xhafer: she's also a barbarian, that's

why her and Karen don't get along.

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Laura: She's the shorter scrappier.

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Barbarian.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Yeah, I like that.

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But there can be only one barbarian.

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So here we are.

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Xhafer: All right.

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Well, with all that said,

let's get into this episode.

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We've got Battlestar Galactica,

season three, episode 10, the Passage.

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I don't know why I put so much

stank on that passage there,

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Laura: It was good though.

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I liked it.

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I liked it more than I liked this episode.

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Xhafer: fair.

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Laura: Oh boy.

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Um, our, like, previously on as

stuff about cat's addiction and

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then her whole beef with Starbuck.

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Xhafer: all very

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important.

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Laura: Adama wants tieback on the,

in, CIC almost said on the bridge.

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And Baltar wants to know about

those final five plus the hybrids.

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And then Deanna wants purgatory,

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question mark.

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I don't know.

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But in the, in the moment, we've

got some serious food problems.

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Xhafer: we open in media starvation as

Coddle Adama Hilo, and Roslyn ke us up.

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The food supply is tainted and we cut to

Athena, who is out looking for a passage

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through a nebula to the planet of algae.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Lots of algae here that

we can turn into food.

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I guess.

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You know, I, I didn't occur to me

till you were just saying it, but

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like, I'm pretty sure the food tainted

is like just totally glossed over

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some sort of equipment malfunction.

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Right?

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: But what if we, what if it's not?

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Xhafer: I mean, that's always a

question to ask on Battlestar Galactica.

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They famously have a plan.

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Laura: The concepts of a plan as

someone shared recently in the Discord.

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Xhafer: That was so good.

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Laura: It was very good.

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I was like, yeah, somebody

did a good job with that

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Very funny.

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Laura: That would be a fun call back

later if it ever comes up again.

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But I, I don't know that it

will, it was so glossed over.

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Xhafer: So the pilots are anxious as

they split a cliff bar and we see Sharon

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is having a tough time with radiation.

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Laura: And it's not just like

two pilots sharing a cliff bar.

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It's like six pilots splitting a cliff

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Xhafer: They're real high density.

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They're high caloric value.

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Laura: Yeah.

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But still, like presumably one

bar is one bar for a reason, like.

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Yeah.

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So real edgy

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around the fleet,

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Xhafer: everyone's quite uh,

there's some accusations of

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like hoarding snacks and stuff.

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Laura: Uhhuh?

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Xhafer: Never pretty, when it gets to

accusing people of hoarding snacks,

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Laura: Nope,

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Xhafer: never, never want

to be involved in that.

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Laura: nope.

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I'm having a little trouble with

the premise right away in this

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episode because we're saying that

we gotta get through this nebula or

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: and it's got bad radiation,

but Sharon's the one who can take it.

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And I'm like, but wait.

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At the very beginning of all this, we

had some stuff hidden in a nebulizer

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because it would, cylons couldn't

go in the, the radiation nebulizer.

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Xhafer: I mean, there's a

lot of types of radiation.

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Laura: Yeah, I guess.

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I

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Xhafer: This one silencer resistant

to how convenient for the plot.

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Laura: yes.

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But I was like, wait a

second, you can't fool me.

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That opin was like falling apart.

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Xhafer: Yeah, it's very convenient for

the plot, but not so convenient for the

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plot that Sharon can do all of the work

and just bring all of the ships herself.

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Laura: Right, right.

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well, and we've got the time

pressure too, like for Sharon to

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take all of the ships herself.

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Maybe she could do it with enough time.

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Right.

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But we don't have that time

'cause everybody's gonna starve,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Gotta do it quick, even though

jumping is instantaneous.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: All right.

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We go to theme survivor Count 40 1004 20.

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Nice.

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We have two unseen deaths.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: dunno.

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And then we cut over to the endless

piano looping cylon bass star as

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Laura: Deanna's still doing it.

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Xhafer: Sci-fi iss most destructive

throuple wonders where their third goes

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when they're not having sex with them.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Deanna's up to, to things

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Xhafer: Yep.

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Laura: with air quotes.

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Don't, don't know.

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Xhafer: Yeah my

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Laura: please tell me the

throuple is not forever.

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Xhafer: don't have to worry about that.

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Um, my notes here say, guys, Baltar

has the object permanence of a puppy.

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Laura: She's gone.

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I don't care where she went.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: Uh, Athena makes

back to Galactica, but Yikes.

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Laura: Yeah.

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They like drag her out of the ship Right.

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And have to scrub Her down.

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Yeah.

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But she's found the algae.

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: We can slap that stuff

into the machines and get rolling.

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Xhafer: Get food in a couple

of hours or something.

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Indeterminate amount of time.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Like I'm not convinced it's gonna

solve everything right away, but

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we can at least get the food going.

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You're gonna have to remind me because I

don't think I fully understood what Adama

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proposes here and what they wind up doing.

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Xhafer: So they.

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Try to plan through how they could

possibly get the fleet there.

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The nebula is too big around

to go around despite jumping,

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not being a matter of distance.

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Laura: Right.

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Xhafer: but they can't jump straight to

the planet because that's also too far.

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I guess it'd take too long to do the

math ' cause that's the only thing

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that stops them from jumping far.

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Right.

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Laura: Okay.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: Or maybe, I mean, they clearly

can jump into and out of the nebula,

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so it can't be that the nebula itself

prevents jumping because they have to

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jump into the nebula as part of the plot.

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This really is a case of like

really stretching the marshmallow

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of disbelief here around their own

conceits for the sake of drama in the

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episode, which is the point of sci-fi.

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You know, but it just seems like they

had to work so hard to make this episode

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happen and then for it to be just such a

fucking bummer, it's all like, couldn't

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you have just not done all that guys?

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Wouldn't we all be better

if we didn't have that?

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Laura: For real.

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Yeah.

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So they like are, are the raptors like

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: to the civilian ships and

doing the jump calculation for them

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or sending them the jump calculation?

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Okay.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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They're calculating the jump for them.

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Because they're, they, they will

know where they are when they jump

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because their dus is shielded against

nuclear blasts, which most dus is not.

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So when a civilian chimp jumps in, they

have no idea to know where they are.

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They have no way of knowing

where they are, where they are.

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'cause they can't detect anything

because none of their stuff is meant

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to work in uh, this type of radiation

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Laura: Right.

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Xhafer: and the military stuff,

because it's similar enough radiation

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to a nuclear blast does work.

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Laura: Will work.

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Okay.

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And for some reason in this process,

they have to have visual on the ship

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Xhafer: You.

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Yes,

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Laura: that they're guiding.

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It can't, we can't just blast out

the coordinates and hope you get them

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Xhafer: well, that's how you jump into

other ships because where your start point

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and your end point matter for your jump.

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So you have to know where they

physically are to give them the

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like, 'cause you don't just say

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Laura: the right thing.

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Xhafer: do this, it matters

the space that you start in and

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the place that you're going to.

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So if you have that off a little bit,

then you can't jump, or at the very least,

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you can't jump in a way where you're

not going to jump into something else.

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Possibly.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Okay.

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I buy that.

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Xhafer: we've seen, we've like, 'cause

there've been plot points where they get

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the, the jump math just a little wrong

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and end up very far away.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Or we jump into the mountain like

we did at Caprica when we went

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back for, for the Anders Rescue.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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So it's, it's iffy.

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Laura: Okay.

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Xhafer: so they're gonna do this,

the, they pair a raptor with a

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civilian ship, and they can take

the entire flotilla in five runs.

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This way.

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They're gonna load most of the

people on the ships onto Galactica

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because their radiation does

nothing inside of Galactica.

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They're all fine,

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Because it's shielded, and then

they're gonna give rat away to

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everyone in the civilian ship who's

still piloting it, who's on there, so

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that, that way they can survive the

radiation bit and get out of there.

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Laura: Okay, so I was wondering at the

end of this episode, like what's loss

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of ship's, loss of life gonna look like?

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Because I don't think they tell us

at the end of this episode, but yeah.

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Loss of life might be smaller

than I anticipated because

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of the loads onto Galactica.

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Xhafer: If you've not

started the next episode.

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Laura: I haven't

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Xhafer: Okay.

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'Cause I already looked at the math.

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Let me find it here.

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18 deaths this episode.

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Laura: Oh, not nearly what I thought.

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But we have two ships correct.

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That

519

Xhafer: Yeah.

520

We, yeah, we, we lose the

Adriatic and the Corina and the

521

Adriatic is a weird one to lose.

522

Right.

523

Is the Adriatic the one

524

or is the

525

Corina the one,

526

Laura: I don't know if they

told us much about either ship.

527

Xhafer: one of them is a old, yeah,

it's the Adriatic is a defender type.

528

It's a ship that was like

a retired military ship.

529

Laura: Oh.

530

Xhafer: So you'd

531

Laura: But we didn't try to bring it back

532

Xhafer: fine.

533

Laura: Yeah.

534

I guess it's old enough we

didn't have the right shielding.

535

Or maybe maybe the shielding

was taken off when it was

536

Xhafer: Yeah, they don't have way

537

to get all that stuff back up and running.

538

yeah, it is the only known

civilian vessel to be armed.

539

Laura: Oh yeah.

540

Xhafer: anyways we will get

to all of that in a while.

541

So Lee and Starbucks tell the

pilots to watch their exposure.

542

They've, we see the little black

pieces of paper, the white piece of

543

paper that slowly turn black as they

take so much radiation exposure.

544

That's our, like ticking clock, and

they're like, pilots, you are responsible

545

for your own cancer, so don't do it.

546

It's like it's on you to make sure

you don't take too much radiation.

547

It's just like that doesn't

seem like a good idea.

548

Laura: It kind of seems like

there should be a system where we

549

check in with somebody, we have

to show dot coddle our badge.

550

We have to buddy system it like

551

Xhafer: We're gonna look at

it when you get off the ship

552

maybe

553

and go you, you're too close.

554

Laura: Mm-hmm.

555

Like what is doc Coddle there for if

he's not like, got a checklist and

556

marking the state of everybody's badge?

557

Xhafer: I think coddle of everyone is

probably giving rightaway to the civilian

558

pilots and stuff and probably making

sure that they're okay right after.

559

But where the fuck's the CAG

560

Laura: Mm-hmm.

561

Xhafer: doing this.

562

This is Lee's job.

563

Laura: good point.

564

He should have the clipboard

565

Xhafer: Very much so.

566

Laura: or Ty, come on.

567

Like he's not doing a ton.

568

I mean Okay.

569

We get, we get his triumphant return in

this episode, but still, like clipboard

570

is a great job to give to somebody who's

just like coming back from medical leave.

571

Right.

572

Xhafer: What's Helo, I mean, if,

if Ty's back, what's Helo doing?

573

Put him down

574

Laura: Well, wasn't, wasn't Helo

piloting or am I making that

575

Xhafer: No, he helo is

piloting on this mission.

576

Laura: Okay.

577

Okay.

578

Yeah, I, I'm thinking maybe

somebody who's piloting on this

579

mission not right for that job.

580

Exactly.

581

Xhafer: Fucking Athena doesn't

pilot on this mission because she

582

got too much radiation exposure.

583

Great person for this job.

584

Laura: oh, I didn't realize

that she wasn't piloting

585

anymore, but I guess you're

586

Xhafer: Yeah.

587

She got fucked up,

588

Laura: Okay.

589

And we couldn't clean her up in time.

590

Right.

591

Xhafer: So she's like, oh, she'll,

she'll, she will be fine, but that doesn't

592

mean that she's like, okay, right now.

593

Laura: Where's that

magic blurred right now?

594

That magic blurred should be like cleaning

595

Xhafer: Yeah.

596

Can they not magic blurred

fucking uh, cat at the end of

597

this episode, it works for Kirk.

598

That's all I'm saying,

599

Laura: mm-hmm.

600

It definitely already

worked on someone's cancer,

601

Xhafer: right?

602

Laura: and we've been told she's still

got the, the fetal cells in there.

603

So like.

604

Huh?

605

Xhafer: Anyways they offer stems and

cats are like, that's a bad idea.

606

That's my one character point.

607

This episode,

608

Laura: Yeah.

609

Xhafer: uh, I'm gonna make you remember

that I had a stems thing, and that's the

610

only time it comes up the entire episode.

611

I mean, we find out other

stuff about cat and drugs, but.

612

Laura: Yeah.

613

Xhafer: particular story beat.

614

Laura: I mean, I guess I can see Kat

like not wanting to open up the door

615

to possibly go back down that road.

616

Xhafer: Yeah.

617

She doesn't wanna have

to go on a walkabout.

618

Laura: right.

619

But it also seems like others who

don't have that problem yet and

620

really like don't have a choice like.

621

Yeah, they are probably gonna have

to do it, but I could see maybe

622

making it her like personal refusal

of like, I'm not gonna do that

623

again.

624

Like, but she's just like, no,

it's a bad idea for everyone.

625

It's like, I'm sorry man.

626

I don't see what other

options you guys have.

627

Xhafer: Speaking of not having other

options, when there's a bunch of

628

civilians on the ship Kat's Ex is among

them and we find out her name is Sasha,

629

Laura: Yes.

630

Xhafer: which.

631

Okay.

632

This guy has either bad nineties

hair, a meth problem, or both.

633

Laura: I'm gonna go with both.

634

I'm

635

Xhafer: Yeah.

636

He's got Hollywood teeth, not

meth teeth, but still, maybe

637

Laura: Yeah.

638

So I don't know if we got the

guy's name yet, but he sucks.

639

Um,

640

Xhafer: name is like.

641

Exos or something.

642

I don't know.

643

It was dumb and I didn't write it down.

644

Laura: and he's just the grossest

and yeah, she says this whole, we're

645

all through I, I, I don't know.

646

I don't know how I feel about this.

647

Xhafer: Well, he's

clearly a piece of shit.

648

Laura: No, no, he's, he's a piece of shit.

649

Um, so theoretically we find out that

like he was running drugs with her.

650

Yes.

651

They were like on a ship together.

652

So presumably they were on the ship

together when the Cys attacked and

653

were running and were running together.

654

And I don't know, it's just like, I was

like, man, it seems kind of unlikely that,

655

Xhafer: There's been a ship of

drugs this whole time and Baltar

656

didn't get his nose in it.

657

Laura: well, there's that,

but no, they probably sold it.

658

He, the, the skeezy dude probably sold

it on the black market right away.

659

Right.

660

but he doesn't have control

of the ship anymore.

661

He's somehow like through all,

everything still sticking around.

662

Like he, he didn't get

lost on new Caprica or

663

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

664

Laura: I don't know.

665

It was just weird.

666

It was weird that we had literally no

inkling up until this point of Kat's past,

667

Xhafer: Yeah.

668

Laura: I guess when she did the

thing when she was all high on stems.

669

And we had our day in the life

episode, our Deanna, reporting

670

episode, and she was like mooning

the camera and saying, hi, mom.

671

I don't think her mom was

really in the fleet then.

672

Right?

673

Her mom's gone.

674

Xhafer: Yeah, for sure.

675

Laura: Oh,

676

Everything about this

episode just kind of sucks.

677

Xhafer: Yeah.

678

Laura: let's go to the

Bay Star for a minute

679

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

680

Yeah.

681

Baltar confronts Deanna, who's like,

I was with a Simon and as she says

682

this, a Deanna and a Simon walk

past them in the background talking.

683

I don't know if you caught that.

684

Laura: That's very good.

685

Yeah.

686

Xhafer: I mean, it's, it's

someone in a Lucy Lawless wig.

687

Simon walking, but it's so good.

688

Laura: Yeah.

689

Yeah.

690

And Balter iss like, oh, well, maybe

I'll just go ask every Simon on the

691

ship, find out who you were talking to.

692

Xhafer: Right?

693

He notices dried

resurrection, goo in her hair,

694

Laura: yeah.

695

So Baltar is accusing her of

being addicted to resurrection.

696

Xhafer: Yeah.

697

Just killing herself.

698

Laura: Uhhuh weird because Cavel

said it was super unpleasant.

699

Xhafer: Yes.

700

Well, she's like getting the

little visiony things right, the

701

in between the life and the death.

702

Laura: Mm-hmm.

703

Xhafer: that's her vibe.

704

Laura: Yeah.

705

Cavel wasn't into it.

706

He was finding it unpleasant

707

and she's very into it.

708

Xhafer: Yes.

709

Too into it

710

for sure.

711

Laura: Yeah.

712

Xhafer: Uh, Weirdly into it.

713

Laura: Have we seen her having

a vision yet in this episode?

714

Xhafer: I don't think

715

Laura: gets one.

716

I think there was a whole bunch of

stuff that happened in one of Deanna's

717

visions, and I don't remember if it was

this episode or the previous, but I was

718

like, I don't understand any of this.

719

Xhafer: It was last

episode and you don't yet.

720

That's fine.

721

Laura: Yeah, I was gonna say,

do you understand any of it?

722

Xhafer: Um, I understand the bits

that I'm supposed to understand,

723

Laura: Okay.

724

Interesting.

725

Xhafer: what's, what it's leading to.

726

Laura: Okay.

727

Xhafer: You know,

728

Laura: I wondered if it was just random

stuff or if it was actually like planned.

729

Xhafer: it's, this is planned.

730

Laura: Okay, cool.

731

Xhafer: The, the payoff for this

is within this season of the show.

732

Laura: Oh good.

733

Xhafer: this is like, actually

734

Laura: of mad if I had to wait.

735

Xhafer: this is actually planned, planned.

736

This isn't like we made

something work with stuff that

737

we did forever ago, planned.

738

This is like actually planned.

739

Planned.

740

Laura: Okay, good.

741

I look forward to that.

742

The creepy ex runs into cat again.

743

You can just run into

anybody on Galactica, like

744

Xhafer: Oh God.

745

He calls her baby and my skin crawled.

746

Laura: He sucks.

747

I hate him.

748

Xhafer: I hate him too.

749

Fuck this

750

Laura: I would, I would like to know

that he like dies of fiery death.

751

That would be fun, but

752

Xhafer: He's piloting one of

the ships that gets blown up.

753

Laura: Yeah.

754

Hey, this fucker is like, I

guess maybe he's not a pilot.

755

Well, I don't know.

756

He could have been not a pilot and

just running drugs with Kat and she's

757

a pilot, but I was like, how has this

guy not been drafted into something?

758

Xhafer: Well, Kat was a

space trucker specifically,

759

Laura: right.

760

Xhafer: which is like, I don't

wanna take anything away from any

761

trucker because y'all do God's work.

762

Logistics is a fucking nightmare.

763

But like going from being a

trucker to being a race car

764

driver are very different things.

765

Laura: Like military race,

car driver too, like,

766

yeah.

767

Xhafer: Flying a 7 47 full of packages

is not the same as flying a fighter jet.

768

Laura: mm-hmm.

769

For sure.

770

Xhafer: You know, but they make it work.

771

That's, I think that's kind of the

point though, because she's part of

772

the group of pilots that they bring

in that are just like, these are the

773

only people with any flight experience.

774

Laura: Yeah.

775

But now uh, Mr.

776

Drug runner is gonna

blackmail cat for food.

777

That's his thought.

778

I'm gonna tell everybody what we were up

to, what you were up to, unless you feed

779

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

780

Yeah.

781

Total, getting that three square a day

in the military, not knowing that they're

782

starving even more than everyone else.

783

Laura: Yeah.

784

And it's literally a square.

785

It's like, like, you know,

one cm by one cm square.

786

But we're gonna have a

lighter moment, I guess, here

787

Xhafer: Yeah.

788

Laura: as, uh.

789

we see Adama like catch on the closed

circuit television that Ty is like

790

trying to walk through the door

791

to CI see.

792

Xhafer: His badge doesn't work anymore.

793

Laura: He's just like

trying to psyche himself up.

794

When he finally makes it

through the door, gada stares.

795

Um, and there's, you know,

there's people applauding,

796

uh, except not Gada.

797

And not Adama, but Adama's is more

like, this is just a regular day, guys.

798

We're just having a

799

Xhafer: Yeah.

800

You're just a regular guy.

801

You are a regular guy.

802

Laura: Yeah.

803

Gita's not

804

Xhafer: Nope.

805

Nope.

806

Gita's not into it.

807

Wonder why?

808

Laura: Yeah.

809

Oh, I know

810

Xhafer: Well, yeah, yeah, I know you.

811

Laura: Well, no, I, I know why,

because Gada didn't get to throw

812

his tags in and call for Saul.

813

Ty.

814

To punch it, do punches, because

that would've been wrong.

815

We've discussed like, we cannot do that to

the man with no peripherals on one side,

816

Xhafer: yeah, yeah.

817

His

818

peripherals real rough,

819

Laura: yeah, they didn't get

to punch their business out,

820

Xhafer: Yeah.

821

Yeah.

822

Laura: so Oh,

823

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

824

And this is when the mission

to navigate the passage begins.

825

Like, I'm not gonna tell people how

to do their fucking jobs, right?

826

I'm not that guy.

827

Laura: sure.

828

Xhafer: when they first jump in

to this fucking passage of space,

829

everyone in these raptors is completely

blindsided by how bright and terrible

830

and loud and miserable it is.

831

Laura: Uhhuh.

832

Xhafer: You should just load it

up a raptor with fucking everyone

833

jumped out there for just 30

seconds and then jumped back

834

Laura: Yeah.

835

Let them see exactly what

836

Xhafer: just like.

837

this is what it's gonna be like.

838

You're in for a fucking trip.

839

It's better to experience this firsthand,

rather than me to explain it to you.

840

'cause that way when you go back in 20

minutes with a ship on your own, you'll at

841

the very least be a little adjusted, or at

the very least be able to mentally prepare

842

for what you're about to experience.

843

Laura: yeah, yeah.

844

Especially because on this

jump, when everyone is

845

disoriented, we can't see shit.

846

Everything is totally new to us.

847

We, this is where we lose the

Adriatic here in the first jump.

848

hot dog.

849

Can't find the Adriatic.

850

Everyone else is there, but he

can't find his, he, he begs for more

851

time, but they're like, no time must

852

Xhafer: Must go.

853

Laura: And they all jump out

with hot dog last, but he's

854

like swearing the whole time.

855

Because he really wanted

to find those people.

856

But Adriatic gone and

then we cut to trip four.

857

Xhafer: Yep.

858

Yeah, we'd jump ahead quite a bit here.

859

We see Kat is looking for the carina.

860

The ship is lost and the radiation

is getting to the pilots.

861

When they all get out,

we see hotdog just vomit.

862

Laura: Yeah.

863

Hot dog.

864

Just barfs cat's devastated Lee is

being carried out of his cockpit.

865

Xhafer: Like they all look

ghastly amounts of fucked up.

866

Okay.

867

Laura: yeah, they need rest, but they

don't actually have the time to do that.

868

Xhafer: Nope.

869

Bill and t talk about the civilians

who had resorted to eating paper,

870

but now there's a paper shortage.

871

This is obviously a joke.

872

Laura: Okay.

873

I was like, I, I think this

is a joke based on like how

874

hysterically they giggle about it.

875

Xhafer: Yeah.

876

I can't help but think though, if

they had kept the corners on that

877

they would've had more to eat,

878

Laura: Yeah.

879

Xhafer: that's what they were eating.

880

Maybe they were eating the corners.

881

I.

882

Laura: Yeah.

883

Maybe when the paper comes out we're, we

have the, what do you call those things?

884

The big old paper slicey thing,

you know, you've seen it in like

885

elementary school when the teachers

had to cut the construction paper.

886

There's somebody who just has to do, take

the slicey thing and cut all the corners

887

off, and then you can send

the corners out to be eaten.

888

But they also tell us that there,

there's like a hundred Marines

889

that are too weak to work.

890

Xhafer: yeah.

891

Laura: Um, I guess that they're

too weak from hunger or are they

892

too weak from the radiation?

893

Because I thought galactic is shielded.

894

Yeah.

895

Xhafer: Well, I mean, galactic

is making a lot more trips than

896

everyone else, so I don't know how

much shielding they actually have.

897

They don't appear to be particularly sick.

898

But if the Marines are operating

in the outer edges of the ship,

899

monitoring civilians where people

might not normally be, you might

900

have a lot of people in places that

you don't normally keep people, and

901

they might not be as well shielded.

902

Laura: Also, they could just be like

tired from working so long and also

903

being hungry, like they can't work

because they are weak from hunger

904

and, and tired from trying to watch

all these civilians all the time.

905

Xhafer: I could see it

being a couple of things.

906

Laura: and then the civilians are

like, not necessarily like the most.

907

Cooperative group 'cause they're

hungry and they're unrest at everyone.

908

So Yeah, it sucks.

909

Super sucks.

910

Oh, the guy's name is Enzo.

911

I apparently wrote it down

912

at this point.

913

Yeah.

914

'cause Starbucks sees Cat chewing out.

915

Enzo.

916

Why is he still on the ship?

917

Xhafer: Um,

918

Laura: here?

919

Xhafer: that's

920

Laura: He shouldn't still be here.

921

Right?

922

Because he was loaded in in

the first set of civilians.

923

Shouldn't they have all been loaded out?

924

Xhafer: He's probably just hiding

somewhere and you can't teach that.

925

So Starbucks sees Enzo

Lurkin and yelling at Kat.

926

And then when we cut back over

to more endless piano looping, as

927

Deanna reveals to Gais, she sees

visions of the Final Five during her

928

resurrection, which is a mystery both

to the humans and the other silences.

929

So no one fucking knows, apparently.

930

And he's really hoping

to be among them, right?

931

He's really hoping that he wins

the, the Final Five Lottery here.

932

Wins is a very loose term because

it means, at the very least, that

933

he's not a dirty fucking traitor.

934

Laura: And, and Gaas can't see, like I am,

I'm still, Gais is not in my Final Five.

935

Like I do not think

936

Xhafer: Do you have one?

937

Do you have one off the top of your head?

938

You could

939

Laura: Oh no, not really,

940

Xhafer: because we're halfway

through the season, so I was gonna

941

ask at the end of the episode.

942

Laura: Well, let's save it then, but

I Gaia ain't in it because I still

943

can't get past the, like, why would

we need a six to manipulate him to

944

give up the damn codes then like,

945

Xhafer: Well, if the silence

don't know, he is also a silent

946

Laura: oh, but, mm,

it's just so convoluted.

947

Xhafer: welcome to Battlestar Galactica.

948

Laura: I, I don't, I like, I, I think

I've said it, that if Gais Baltar

949

turns out to be a salon, I'm gonna

throw something at the fucking tv.

950

I'm still, still on that.

951

Um, yeah, he just, he really wants

to be one though, because that would

952

make his, like moral problems go away.

953

Xhafer: Yeah.

954

It makes him a decent silent

because he's a terrible human.

955

Laura: And when he asks, if she

sees his face, she can't remember.

956

And if I, if I'm remembering the

episode correctly, she's kind of like,

957

eh, she kind of dazed at this point,

958

Xhafer: Yeah.

959

Laura: or there's confusion.

960

But they're all just trying

to find out who they are.

961

Like she wants to know why does

she wanna know these Final five?

962

Why does this, why does she need this?

963

I don't know.

964

Xhafer: I mean, I don't know

if she needs it so much as

965

it's something to fucking do.

966

It seems kind of bored ale hands.

967

Laura: Uhhuh, and she's not finding

the resurrection unpleasant, I don't

968

think she's like addicted to it, just

because of wanting to see the Final Five.

969

Like, I don't think

970

Xhafer: We will find out more

about this stuff soon-ish.

971

Laura: In the season.

972

Okay.

973

Xhafer: This, this, this plot

will wrap by the season finale.

974

Laura: Okay, That, that's good.

975

I, I can only handle so many like,

976

Xhafer: The, yeah.

977

No, you'll, no.

978

The Deanna plot will wrap

by the end of the season.

979

The, the, the stuff with the

resurrection thing that will,

980

all, that will be done well.

981

At the very least, it will be resolved.

982

I don't want to say done, necessarily.

983

Laura: Yeah.

984

Xhafer: is other implications.

985

Laura: Right.

986

That's a bridge too far.

987

Xhafer: Yeah.

988

Yeah.

989

Starbucks confronts Enzo and then

Kat, and this is where we find out

990

she was a trucker who was involved

in human trafficking in addition to

991

running drugs before the diaspora.

992

Carrie is concerned with her possible

complicitness in bringing silos to

993

the core worlds and not in the fact

that she was doing human trafficking.

994

Laura: Right.

995

Xhafer: now it sounds like it was

mostly like pe giving people rides

996

and smuggling people more than

people who wanted to be smuggled,

997

Laura: Yeah.

998

Xhafer: of the way it sounds.

999

Not necessarily

00:44:50,928 --> 00:44:53,793

Laura: definitely not like

a slavery connotation that

00:44:53,793 --> 00:44:53,953

they

00:44:54,063 --> 00:44:54,333

Xhafer: does.

00:44:54,693 --> 00:44:55,173

Yeah.

00:44:55,173 --> 00:45:00,243

On a scale of Zero to Epstein, we're

a lot Closer to zero is the vibe,

00:45:00,873 --> 00:45:04,773

but it's still human trafficking

and that's why it's illegal.

00:45:05,373 --> 00:45:09,213

In a lot of reasons is because

of it enables things like that.

00:45:09,273 --> 00:45:15,543

So I'm super this gross cat, but, uh

00:45:16,338 --> 00:45:20,868

Laura: it, it's gross Kat, and she knows,

like she knows her past is a bit shameful.

00:45:20,868 --> 00:45:29,748

I do feel a little bit like

Starbuck is leaping to conclusions

00:45:29,958 --> 00:45:32,728

and being, being very unfair of

00:45:32,868 --> 00:45:33,138

like,

00:45:33,138 --> 00:45:35,088

you, you let the silence

00:45:35,297 --> 00:45:38,202

Xhafer: she's being a terrible the cat

because she's always terrible the cat.

00:45:39,059 --> 00:45:39,269

Laura: Yeah.

00:45:39,269 --> 00:45:39,539

Yes.

00:45:39,539 --> 00:45:41,219

Like I'm like, no, come on.

00:45:41,219 --> 00:45:44,489

Like there's those

colonies were fucking huge.

00:45:44,489 --> 00:45:49,709

It wasn't cat that brought

the Cys in for God's sake.

00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:51,299

Like, fuck off.

00:45:51,661 --> 00:45:55,021

This is just disgusting

behavior from Starbucks.

00:45:55,027 --> 00:45:55,237

Xhafer: yeah.

00:45:55,237 --> 00:45:56,467

Well, she has to hurt somebody.

00:45:56,863 --> 00:45:57,313

that's

00:45:57,643 --> 00:46:00,973

that's been her mo she said

that, and she's held to that.

00:46:01,408 --> 00:46:02,758

She has to hurt somebody.

00:46:03,088 --> 00:46:04,648

She tried lashing out at Anders.

00:46:04,858 --> 00:46:05,968

That didn't work out well.

00:46:06,058 --> 00:46:07,468

She tried lashing out at Lee.

00:46:07,708 --> 00:46:08,938

That didn't work out well.

00:46:08,968 --> 00:46:10,048

So now she's lashing out at

00:46:10,128 --> 00:46:12,588

Laura: Yeah, an easier target.

00:46:12,918 --> 00:46:13,308

And

00:46:16,427 --> 00:46:18,107

I'm so mad at this episode.

00:46:19,047 --> 00:46:24,062

Xhafer: You should be Kat asked Starbuck

to let her explain herself to the dad

00:46:24,062 --> 00:46:27,152

role rather than find out any other way.

00:46:27,277 --> 00:46:28,702

Laura: Yeah, yeah.

00:46:28,702 --> 00:46:33,532

She's like, let me tell Papa Dama

00:46:34,072 --> 00:46:38,542

and let's just get through

like this last thing.

00:46:39,795 --> 00:46:41,055

Like we gotta get through this thing.

00:46:41,055 --> 00:46:43,845

'cause otherwise, since people

aren't eating, people are dying.

00:46:44,359 --> 00:46:46,609

but Starbucks is so fucking petty.

00:46:47,929 --> 00:46:49,189

I just hate it.

00:46:49,579 --> 00:46:50,329

I hate it so much.

00:46:51,503 --> 00:46:56,633

Xhafer: She's, she's, she's not being

a good, I mean, she has not been

00:46:56,633 --> 00:46:58,583

a good person since New Caprica.

00:46:58,957 --> 00:46:59,137

Laura: Yep.

00:47:00,176 --> 00:47:06,506

She had like a minute there where she was

trying, like when she goes to see Casey

00:47:07,083 --> 00:47:08,073

and has her moment.

00:47:08,791 --> 00:47:09,121

But

00:47:09,251 --> 00:47:12,581

Xhafer: You thought she was gonna pick

herself up from that point, but no.

00:47:12,671 --> 00:47:14,861

Ty has picked himself

up quicker than Kara.

00:47:15,001 --> 00:47:16,681

Laura: yeah, it's wild.

00:47:16,741 --> 00:47:20,521

You really thought, and at the end of

that episode you're like, okay, care's

00:47:20,521 --> 00:47:22,261

making, she's making a turn, she's

00:47:22,801 --> 00:47:23,971

gonna work some stuff out.

00:47:24,601 --> 00:47:26,461

Don't know what the

fuck's gonna happen to Ty.

00:47:26,461 --> 00:47:29,061

And here at this point I'm like, man, boy.

00:47:29,181 --> 00:47:29,631

Okay,

00:47:30,871 --> 00:47:31,141

Xhafer: Yep.

00:47:31,501 --> 00:47:32,186

That's where we be

00:47:33,136 --> 00:47:33,556

Laura: well let's

00:47:33,556 --> 00:47:34,216

go back to the Bay

00:47:34,216 --> 00:47:34,576

Star.

00:47:34,700 --> 00:47:35,905

Xhafer: back on the Bay Star.

00:47:36,172 --> 00:47:37,642

Guy fucks with the hybrid.

00:47:38,782 --> 00:47:39,802

Solves its riddle.

00:47:39,802 --> 00:47:42,562

They have to go to the eye of Jupiter,

00:47:42,567 --> 00:47:42,787

Laura: Huh?

00:47:43,182 --> 00:47:43,572

Yeah.

00:47:43,572 --> 00:47:43,782

This

00:47:43,912 --> 00:47:44,572

Xhafer: something with the

00:47:44,572 --> 00:47:45,562

five.

00:47:45,742 --> 00:47:46,342

Ooh.

00:47:46,392 --> 00:47:48,942

Laura: this is all weird.

00:47:49,002 --> 00:47:49,422

He

00:47:49,702 --> 00:47:52,042

Xhafer: The name of the next

episode is The Eye of Jupiter, so,

00:47:52,372 --> 00:47:52,732

Laura: Yeah.

00:47:52,762 --> 00:47:53,182

Yes.

00:47:53,632 --> 00:47:59,122

Baltar like, touches the hybrid

and she immediately like grabs

00:47:59,122 --> 00:48:01,432

him and says, intelligence.

00:48:01,432 --> 00:48:04,042

And I'm like, no, honey,

you got that one wrong.

00:48:06,022 --> 00:48:06,742

Yeah.

00:48:06,862 --> 00:48:14,482

And from this like cryptic, find the hand

that lies in the shadow of the light.

00:48:14,980 --> 00:48:17,080

In the eye of the husband.

00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,760

In the eye of the cow.

00:48:19,807 --> 00:48:21,157

It's, I'm with Deanna.

00:48:21,157 --> 00:48:22,297

That's fucking nonsense.

00:48:22,297 --> 00:48:23,887

But somehow he gets something out of

00:48:23,887 --> 00:48:24,171

it.

00:48:24,501 --> 00:48:26,211

A literal place to go.

00:48:26,601 --> 00:48:31,131

Hara somehow is like a cow,

gentle, like a cow or something.

00:48:31,131 --> 00:48:37,221

And then Jupiter was her husband and

we're looking for the eye of Jupiter.

00:48:38,889 --> 00:48:43,520

I don't know, I was not satisfied

with any of this interaction.

00:48:43,555 --> 00:48:44,785

Yeah, it's like freaky.

00:48:45,375 --> 00:48:47,480

Xhafer: So, you know, like they

do the thing where they flash a

00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,070

bunch of stuff before it happens

00:48:49,105 --> 00:48:49,315

Laura: Mm-hmm.

00:48:50,180 --> 00:48:50,690

Xhafer: in the show.

00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:54,170

This is the verbal equivalent of

that for like the next five episodes.

00:48:54,595 --> 00:48:55,165

Laura: Okay.

00:48:56,035 --> 00:48:58,075

Maybe it will be more

satisfying as we go through

00:48:58,075 --> 00:48:58,165

the

00:48:58,165 --> 00:48:58,885

episodes.

00:48:59,155 --> 00:49:03,729

Xhafer: It won't be, uh, but

the very least some of this

00:49:03,729 --> 00:49:05,109

nonsense will make sense.

00:49:05,804 --> 00:49:06,344

Laura: okay.

00:49:06,759 --> 00:49:09,639

Xhafer: It's the very least,

a little bit more sense.

00:49:10,184 --> 00:49:13,484

Laura: Yeah, it's, it wasn't satisfying.

00:49:13,484 --> 00:49:14,204

I'm, I'm.

00:49:15,584 --> 00:49:17,204

Maybe it's drawing out too long.

00:49:17,204 --> 00:49:20,504

I'm not very satisfied with

guy's time on the Bass Star.

00:49:22,494 --> 00:49:23,064

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:49:23,154 --> 00:49:25,031

Um, a

00:49:25,261 --> 00:49:28,411

Laura: Maybe I am just

biased by how much I fucking

00:49:28,411 --> 00:49:29,971

hate this guy.

00:49:30,341 --> 00:49:31,331

Xhafer: against gaas?

00:49:31,441 --> 00:49:31,801

Laura: Yeah.

00:49:31,831 --> 00:49:33,001

I have a gaas bias

00:49:33,946 --> 00:49:35,021

Xhafer: A gaas bias?

00:49:35,041 --> 00:49:35,671

Laura: that feels like a

00:49:35,671 --> 00:49:36,061

title.

00:49:37,001 --> 00:49:37,271

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:49:37,331 --> 00:49:38,141

Probably,

00:49:38,878 --> 00:49:41,068

Laura: Okay, so we go back, Kat

00:49:41,098 --> 00:49:42,418

is sweating.

00:49:42,668 --> 00:49:46,418

Xhafer: pulling her hair out

from the radiation exposure.

00:49:46,838 --> 00:49:50,198

And we see she's hidden her

pitch black exposure plate.

00:49:50,698 --> 00:49:51,208

Laura: Yeah.

00:49:51,976 --> 00:49:53,956

Did she make out with Enzo?

00:49:54,926 --> 00:49:59,853

Xhafer: She totally hooks up with her

ex, as she switches out her overexposed

00:49:59,853 --> 00:50:02,103

plate for one that will keep her flying.

00:50:03,003 --> 00:50:05,613

So this is, this is her

deciding that she's going to die

00:50:05,838 --> 00:50:06,258

Laura: mm-hmm.

00:50:08,043 --> 00:50:11,763

Xhafer: uh, the, just having a

little bit of fun on her way out,

00:50:14,013 --> 00:50:14,463

eh,

00:50:15,183 --> 00:50:16,263

uh, yeah.

00:50:16,263 --> 00:50:23,776

It's, it's not great feels,

uh, but it is heroic sacrifice.

00:50:24,316 --> 00:50:28,279

So there's some parallels here,

between what Deanna is doing

00:50:28,279 --> 00:50:29,689

and what Kat is about to do.

00:50:30,474 --> 00:50:31,344

Laura: Really?

00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,799

Xhafer: Well, it's just killing yourself.

00:50:34,494 --> 00:50:35,229

Laura: Oh, okay.

00:50:35,234 --> 00:50:35,604

Okay.

00:50:35,604 --> 00:50:36,354

I see what you're saying.

00:50:36,354 --> 00:50:37,074

I was like,

00:50:38,154 --> 00:50:42,384

Deanna's, heroically sacrificing

herself in her resurrections.

00:50:42,414 --> 00:50:42,684

Okay.

00:50:42,744 --> 00:50:43,764

No, she's just literally

00:50:43,764 --> 00:50:44,334

killing herself.

00:50:44,334 --> 00:50:44,484

Yeah.

00:50:44,484 --> 00:50:44,724

Yeah.

00:50:44,959 --> 00:50:46,399

Xhafer: she's literally killing herself.

00:50:46,939 --> 00:50:51,515

And, and I, I don't know if it's because.

00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,700

00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:57,320

and it was a long day.

00:50:58,310 --> 00:51:04,340

Or if it's because this episode

is just so blah, or if maybe

00:51:04,340 --> 00:51:05,600

there's, I didn't get it.

00:51:05,780 --> 00:51:11,660

Maybe like, maybe it's better than I'm

able to handle or perceive as a person.

00:51:11,660 --> 00:51:16,580

I don't know, but it just

felt like it was not great.

00:51:17,215 --> 00:51:21,295

Laura: I could have done without the,

like, hooking up with the ex, the

00:51:21,385 --> 00:51:25,045

very, very toxic, very abusive ex.

00:51:25,045 --> 00:51:27,985

Like we didn't need to do that before.

00:51:27,985 --> 00:51:29,095

Our self-sacrifice,

00:51:30,344 --> 00:51:30,794

Xhafer: yeah,

00:51:30,889 --> 00:51:33,769

Laura: but I guess like they are

in a situation where there's like,

00:51:34,094 --> 00:51:38,324

I can't just go eat a piece of

chocolate cake that's not around.

00:51:38,911 --> 00:51:43,441

and if I'm not a religious person, which

I don't think we've seen that from Cat,

00:51:44,551 --> 00:51:45,661

like what are you gonna do?

00:51:47,596 --> 00:51:49,216

Xhafer: I mean, her options are what?

00:51:49,216 --> 00:51:50,956

Like Enzo and hotdog,

00:51:51,156 --> 00:51:52,896

Laura: And hotdog just

threw up everywhere.

00:51:52,896 --> 00:51:53,466

You're not,

00:51:53,686 --> 00:51:54,136

Xhafer: right?

00:51:54,136 --> 00:51:54,586

yeah,

00:51:54,586 --> 00:51:54,946

that's,

00:51:55,571 --> 00:51:55,861

Laura: yeah.

00:51:56,976 --> 00:51:57,456

No.

00:51:57,546 --> 00:51:59,826

And did, doesn't she

steal the badge from Hilo?

00:51:59,826 --> 00:52:01,656

Doesn't she switch out Hilos badge?

00:52:02,164 --> 00:52:02,809

Xhafer: Oh, I didn't

00:52:02,979 --> 00:52:03,639

Laura: I think so.

00:52:03,639 --> 00:52:06,609

I think I saw like the

locker name or something.

00:52:07,064 --> 00:52:07,284

Xhafer: huh?

00:52:07,399 --> 00:52:07,819

Laura: Yeah.

00:52:08,107 --> 00:52:09,989

So I don't know.

00:52:10,259 --> 00:52:15,719

Hilo theoretically then didn't go because

he, he's a good Jimbo and probably

00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,099

looked at his badge and went, Oh,

00:52:17,729 --> 00:52:18,599

nope, can't go.

00:52:18,609 --> 00:52:20,319

Xhafer: Oh, probably went, oh fuck.

00:52:23,339 --> 00:52:26,519

Laura: I, I think he would

rule abide though and not go,

00:52:26,639 --> 00:52:31,499

and so maybe, maybe at this point

Sharon's well enough to take

00:52:31,499 --> 00:52:33,299

over for him or something, but

00:52:33,569 --> 00:52:33,869

yeah.

00:52:34,082 --> 00:52:37,645

Xhafer: But it's trip five

and the farine is missing.

00:52:38,125 --> 00:52:39,175

Kat can't find it.

00:52:40,015 --> 00:52:42,985

Galactica is having a rough

time with the exposure.

00:52:43,385 --> 00:52:45,845

Uh, Finally breaking through

the shielding and stuff.

00:52:45,845 --> 00:52:50,585

We see Galactica is having a really

rough go and so they jump, they tell

00:52:50,585 --> 00:52:55,115

everyone else to jump and Kat doesn't

jump as she's trying to find the last

00:52:55,285 --> 00:52:55,705

Laura: Mm-hmm.

00:52:56,362 --> 00:52:58,402

Xhafer: She eventually finds

them and they jump back.

00:52:58,402 --> 00:53:02,242

But we get like two minutes in CIC where

they're just like looking at a DRE screen.

00:53:02,427 --> 00:53:03,657

Laura: Ty is like praying.

00:53:03,807 --> 00:53:05,697

He's like, actual facts praying.

00:53:06,159 --> 00:53:06,639

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:53:07,372 --> 00:53:09,397

Laura: I, I, it's very tense.

00:53:09,697 --> 00:53:11,047

This part is pretty good.

00:53:11,107 --> 00:53:12,667

I do like this.

00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,290

Xhafer: yeah, Kat lands for Raptor.

00:53:15,740 --> 00:53:19,010

There's radiation burns all

over her ship and her suit.

00:53:19,045 --> 00:53:20,335

Laura: Her stolen badge is now

00:53:20,335 --> 00:53:20,785

black.

00:53:20,785 --> 00:53:21,235

Like

00:53:21,650 --> 00:53:22,160

Xhafer: her stolen.

00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:22,490

Yeah.

00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:23,270

Yeah.

00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:24,470

It's like it's bad.

00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:25,490

Double black badge.

00:53:25,555 --> 00:53:25,945

Laura: yeah.

00:53:26,506 --> 00:53:29,776

Xhafer: There are like applauding

'cause she saved that ship, but

00:53:29,776 --> 00:53:31,456

then she just fucking collapses.

00:53:31,819 --> 00:53:34,699

Laura: Like rolls off

the wing of the ship.

00:53:34,969 --> 00:53:35,959

Very sad.

00:53:36,649 --> 00:53:41,554

And we cut to Starbuck visiting

her in the medical bay.

00:53:42,664 --> 00:53:43,084

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

00:53:43,624 --> 00:53:47,524

Laura: She's so fucking bad at stuff.

00:53:48,274 --> 00:53:51,814

She, she's like, I

didn't mean those things.

00:53:51,814 --> 00:53:52,774

I said, I'm sorry.

00:53:52,774 --> 00:53:53,404

I'm not proud

00:53:53,404 --> 00:53:53,764

of it.

00:53:53,764 --> 00:53:54,334

And it's like, it

00:53:54,479 --> 00:53:56,759

Xhafer: Oh, she does not say sorry.

00:53:56,764 --> 00:53:57,094

Laura: yeah.

00:53:58,949 --> 00:54:00,959

Xhafer: She says she might

have gone a little too

00:54:01,174 --> 00:54:01,504

Laura: Yeah.