This episode is part of my FODMAP mini-series looking at how to handle a negative reaction to the FODMAP diet reintroduction phase. Listen to them all.
Listen to hear how to retest after a positive FODMAP reaction to a challenge. I also share HOW sorbitol will affect your gut.
Foods turn to moderate or high FODMAP for sorbitol at these levels:
If one of the high Sorbitol foods has affected you, you can retest this FODMAP with a different food.
For help managing your IBS diet, including the low FODMAP diet, join the 3 month Gut Reset.
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Why is it so hard to find
your IBS food triggers?
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:Even when you've eliminated FODMAPs
and identified a trigger during
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:the reintroduction phase, it can
be difficult to work out what
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:that means for day to day life.
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:Can you ever eat that food again?
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:That's exactly what I'll cover in
this episode of The Inside Knowledge.
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:This episode is part of a mini series
where I cover each of the FODMAPs in turn,
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:so you can either listen to them all, or
just the one that's most suited to you.
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:You'll learn in each episode what
foods fall into each FODMAP category,
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:how to tackle the rest of that
category once a food reaction has
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:been identified, and when should you
retest, and how to proceed day to day.
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:Welcome to episode 25.
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:Today I'm talking about sorbitol.
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:It's one of the FODMAP categories
and it's one I find people
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:tend to not expect to react to.
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:So what is a high sorbitol food?
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:Well, it includes things like
Apricots, avocados, blackberries,
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:white cabbage, peach and sweet corn.
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:And you'll also find it
as an additive in foods.
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:It's sometimes called E 420 and it's
in things like packaged cakes, cough
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:syrups, sometimes sweets and chocolates.
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:So it adds a little bit of
water to the food product.
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:So that is why they tend to
add it to processed foods.
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:I'm going to talk a little bit about how
sorbitol could affect your digestion,
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:then I'll go into some specifics on
those foods that I mentioned with the
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:exact amounts that increases them to a
moderate FODMAP or a high FODMAP, and
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:then we'll talk about how to reintroduce
the foods or how you can go about
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:adjusting to a high sorbitol reaction.
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:This is the first episode, I'm just
going to very quickly recap on the FODMAP
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:reintroduction process which is Once
you've been a low FODMAP diet for a couple
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:of weeks, you've found a good baseline,
your digestion has normalized, then you
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:try to do this challenge by reintroducing
each of the FODMAP categories.
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:And if you don't know what I mean by
FODMAPs, go back and listen to episodes
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:17 and 18 where I start from the
beginning with an explanation of the diet.
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:I'm assuming that you guys listening now
are fully up to date with what FODMAP Diet
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:is and the reintroduction process is where
we do very careful challenge to test your
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:tolerance to certain foods If when you
did your sorbitol rechallenge exercise
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:you chose Avocados and you reacted to them
then maybe you can try another sorbitol
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:food So what I suggest with my clients
is if one of the high sorbitol foods has
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:affected you You should wait till you
recover feel better and then retest with
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:a different food from that category.
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:So you can either choose to retest another
sorbitol food, or you can come back to
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:it at the end of your challenge process.
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:For example, you may have tested with
avocado, but actually blackberries
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:would be okay, and it's something
in the avocado that is the problem.
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:So for example, avocados have the
potential to raise histamine levels
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:in the gut which can, for some people,
cause pain or bloating or diarrhea.
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:The other thing you might
test with is cabbage.
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:That is a gas producer in some people,
so white cabbage, and maybe that was
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:the reason that you reacted not to
the sorbitol content of the food.
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:Sorbitol is one of the sorbitol
and mannitol and they work
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:in a very very similar way.
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:It's a naturally occurring sugar
alcohol in foods and it's even used
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:as a laxative in high doses which
is around 20 grams per portion.
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:So this gives you an
indication of what it can do.
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:It can draw water into the gut and as
it moves slowly through the intestine,
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:it osmotically draws water in.
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:So The longer it's there,
the more it draws water in.
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:It can cause a higher stool volume,
so like, cause you to want to go more.
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:Diarrhoea, obviously because you've
got more water in your intestines.
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:And also some bloating and gas.
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:When we eat foods with glucose in them,
glucose is normally absorbed in the...
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:upper part of our small intestine,
and polyols are normally only partly
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:absorbed, and then they are found
throughout the small intestine, so
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:it's normal to not digest all of
the polyol content of your food.
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:The non absorbed portion passes
to the large intestine where it
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:is fermented by our gut bacteria
into short chain fatty acids.
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:So you might have heard me
talk about these before.
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:They are really anti inflammatory,
beneficial molecules that are byproducts
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:of our gut bacteria fermenting food that
we eat, and it creates a bit of gas as
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:a by product as well, but also these
really beneficial short chain fatty acids.
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:So I don't want you to
think this is a bad process.
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:Some people will find they get an
increase in hydrogen gas production,
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:and that does depend a little bit
on the types of bacteria that are
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:I looked at one study where in healthy
volunteers, people had an increase
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:in hydrogen gas production after
only taking as little as 5 grams of
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:sorbitol, and this is people who didn't
have IBS, but when they had 10 grams
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:of sorbitol in one meal, they had
gastrointestinal distress, so gas and
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:bloating, and then it got quite severe.
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:They got to 20 grams and that is the level
that is sometimes used as a laxative.
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:The reason why you might be very
sensitive to this process of additional
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:water coming in to the gut and
additional gas is the hypersensitivity.
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:So something that's really common in
people who have IBS is this excessive
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:sensitivity to pressure in the gut.
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:So every time it stretches and pulls
or you get a little bit of gas moving
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:through you, that's really uncomfortable.
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:Your pain receptors may be a lot
more sensitive than somebody else
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:who doesn't have IBS and it's
down to that gut brain connection.
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:So your nervous system in your gut is
on high alert and is sending significant
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:pain messages back to your gut.
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:I don't mean that it's not real pain,
it's just that you're receiving a lot
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:more pain messages for the same passage
of food that somebody else might have
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:that doesn't really cause them pain
and that is a hallmark of having IBS.
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:To give you a bit of a comparison
with those metrics that I mentioned
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:in the study, so that from 10 grams of
sorbitol they started getting symptoms.
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:If we look at the FODMAP ratio of
sorbitol foods, it's actually only 0.
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:2 grams of sorbitol per portion or like
per meal that makes something high FODMAP.
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:So what does this mean?
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:What does it look like?
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:Well, 80 grams of avocado has 0.
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:52 of sorbitol.
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:Now I'm saying all these numbers,
of course You'll have heard me
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:say before that there is regional
differences, seasonal differences,
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:with this FODMAP content of food.
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:So you can try and be as
specific as you like with 0.
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:52 of a gram, but actually there
is a little bit of leeway in this.
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:So there's a bit of give and take,
but just to give you an example,
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:the levels that people were getting
Gastrointestinal distress, it was called,
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:so bloating and gas, was at 5 grams.
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:Now this is only one
tenth of that level, 0.
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:52 of sorbitol in 80 grams of an avocado.
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:Not very much sorbitol.
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:However, in people who have IBS,
it can cause a reaction, and that's
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:why they've made that level of 0.
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:2g sorbitol the cutoff for
a FODMAP moderate portion.
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:In comparison, apples, like 100
grams of a pink lady apple, has 0.
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:75 grams of sorbitol.
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:So, more.
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:sorbitol content than an avocado.
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:And remember, apples will also
have a high fructose content, which
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:is why they are very high FODMAP.
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:So, I just wanted to put that into
proportion that there is a tiny amount
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:of sorbitol, but for some people
who have IBS, that tiny amount is
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:enough to trigger off your symptoms.
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:And that is why we need to know how much.
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:of a portion of food is
considered high and low FODMAP.
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:I'll just run down the numbers, you
can write these down or come back to
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:it if you want to, because it's quite
hard to find these numbers laid out.
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:So this is all taken off the Monash
University FODMAP app, and it's November
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:2023, so they do sometimes update their
numbers, so it's correct as of now.
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:These foods turn to high or moderate
FODMAP at the following levels, so
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:apricot is only 25 grams, avocado,
45 grams, blackberries, just 7 grams,
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:that's one berry, cabbage, white cabbage,
that's like the hard cabbage, is 100
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:grams, so a lot more cabbage for your
sorbitol content than one blackberry, and
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:peaches, 30 grams, sweet corn, 63 grams.
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:So, That's just a little rundown
of some of the most common foods.
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:And if you eat more than that, like
if you have two blackberries, for
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:example, that would be considered
then moderate to high FODMAPs.
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:So if you stay at the levels
that I mentioned, you will be
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:staying at a low FODMAP level.
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:Now the final thing to be
aware of is FODMAP stacking.
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:So if you tend to eat a couple of
different fruits and vegetables in the
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:same meal, you may find that you're
having more sorbitol than you think.
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:For example, if you have, um, some
avocado, a quarter of an avocado,
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:followed by half a peach, that
could lead to a higher sorbitol meal
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:without you realizing, because you've
had two low to moderate portions of
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:sorbitol foods in one meal and then
added together, it becomes higher.
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:Remember with FODMAPS you can move
on to another meal later in the day
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:and you can still have a bit more
sorbitol later on and it won't add up.
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:Ideally you want to just
do it by meal, not by day.
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:So just to finish up, if you had a
problem with sorbitol, there is no need
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:to stay away from these foods forever.
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:What you do is you remember the
foods that I've mentioned, you stay
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:at low levels of sorbitol for those.
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:If you have a smaller...
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:Portion than the amounts I mentioned
you should be fine and you should
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:always try to include small portions of
Low FODMAP foods just to get a bit of
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:diversity Now what you can do is to try
to eat them maybe On alternate days.
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:So instead of like the challenge
you're doing three consecutive days
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:with increasing amounts Maybe you're
okay with just one day a week.
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:Maybe you're okay In a couple of
months time and that is why I suggest
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:trying another sorbital challenge
in around six months because your
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:tolerance can change over time.
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:Listen in to the rest of this
little mini series about FODMAP
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:reintroductions and what to do if
you've reacted to a FODMAP group.