A healing mindset isn't about staying positive all the time. Natalie Vartanian and Glen Nielsen, co-founders of The Aerie Retreat Center, join host Ria on The Healing Mindset to explore what healing actually asks of us.
Natalie and Glen share why fear keeps us stuck in familiar patterns, how old survivor strategies quietly run our relationships, and why awareness is always the first step toward change.
ABOUT THE GUESTS:
Natalie Vartanian is a certified life coach and intimacy coach, and Glen Nielsen is a somatic therapist trained in Somatic Experiencing and Hakomi. Together they co-founded The Aerie Retreat Center in southern Oregon and created the Wake Up or Break Up relationship philosophy, guiding individuals and couples through healing and growth.
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
- Notice the fear that keeps you stuck in familiar, even painful, patterns.
- Old survival strategies from childhood can quietly run your adult relationships.
- Healing starts with awareness; you can't change what you haven't noticed.
- Find a guide, therapist, or community; healing rarely happens in isolation.
CONNECT WITH THE GUESTS:
Website: wakeuporbreakup.com
Retreat Center: The Aerie, Klamath Falls, Oregon
Free monthly newsletter available on their website
EPISODE CHAPTERS:
[00:00] Welcome to The Healing Mindset (approx.)
[02:00] Natalie and Glen's Path to The Aerie (approx.)
[06:00] The Biggest Misunderstanding About Healing (approx.)
[10:00] Why Fear Keeps Us Stuck in Old Patterns (approx.)
[15:00] Character Strategies and Repeating Relationship Cycles (approx.)
[20:00] What a Healing Mindset Looks Like Day to Day (approx.)
[25:00] Where to Find Natalie and Glen (approx.)
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