Are you basing your safety strategy on how you imagine work is done or how work is actually done? In episode 19 of Safety Talks Cary Usrey and Jim Loud discuss the importance of getting to know our workers and the work they are doing to ensure we use true management best practices for safety. Cary and Jim share their insights about how to engage deeper with your team and strategize for work actually being done. Listen in as we dive deep into an interesting conversation that covers various, diverse views on these topics.