Episode 39 of We Should Probably Edit This – But We Won't opens with Matthew spending 40 minutes trying to get the setup right — which Nancy has exactly zero patience for. From there they get into the real stuff: where do they want to retire? They used an astrocartography tool to narrow it down and landed on Portugal, Spain, Italy, Charleston, and Sarasota as their top five destinations to explore. Portugal is first up in September.
They also get into the MOVES method — a flexibility and mobility routine that's revealing just how inflexible two people in their 60s can be. The wedges are on the floor. The neighbor who paddleboards in a wetsuit in January is the goal. And Matthew is eyeing rowing while Nancy wants to get back to dance class. Meanwhile, the body isn't cooperating the way it used to, and they're both trying to figure out what that means going forward.
Also: Nancy told Matthew to pick one project. He narrowed it down to three. Progress.
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Welcome to.
Speaker A:We Should Probably Edit this, But we won't.
Speaker B:This is about our life's messy journey.
Speaker B:It's unscripted talks about growth, real laughs sometimes.
Speaker A:Real laughs sometimes just the chaos and.
Speaker A:And we think there's a little bit of comedy here.
Speaker B:Everything.
Speaker A:It's about our 37 years of marriage and our experience.
Speaker A:I'm Matthew Greger.
Speaker B:And I'm Nancy Greger.
Speaker B:And we're your host of We Should.
Speaker A:Probably Edit this, But We Won't.
Speaker A:And we probably should have edited that.
Speaker A:So here's our next episode.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Oh, goodness.
Speaker A:We still can't get this right.
Speaker A:We're trying.
Speaker A:We're trying to get it there, but it's.
Speaker B:I bet you it's just perfectly fine.
Speaker B:It's better than a lot of other people or it doesn't really matter.
Speaker A:I would like.
Speaker A:I would like.
Speaker B:If I wanted a professional production, I would hire people, and I would be going.
Speaker A:I would like to be in one location that we know how to set it up every time, instead of spending 30, 40 minutes just trying to get ourselves set up.
Speaker B:That just should give you the framework about how this whole entire podcast even came to be, right?
Speaker B:Life's Messy journey.
Speaker B:Here you go.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:I'm usually the biggest mess.
Speaker B:You know, you're.
Speaker B:You just have such standards that people have a really hard time and just.
Speaker B:Just be like, just do it.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:You're ready just to walk away?
Speaker B:I'm ready to say, okay, that was it.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:You got what you got.
Speaker B:Make something happen.
Speaker A:Well, I'm trying to make something happen, but, you know, I. I want things set up a certain way, and I guess that really leads into some of the frustrations that we have as a couple, because we're at different ends of the spectrum.
Speaker A:The different ends of the.
Speaker B:Are you special?
Speaker A:Yeah, I am special.
Speaker A:That's for sure.
Speaker A:No, but I mean.
Speaker A:I mean, of.
Speaker A:Of our strengths, right?
Speaker A:Because we took the strengths test a few months ago, and it really just showed you that my learning and achieving is way up here, and for you, it's way down here.
Speaker A:You know, and we went through this yesterday with me trying to figure out what are we doing.
Speaker B:It's mind bottling to how many times we have to go over this and.
Speaker B:And over this is.
Speaker B:It's like you're beating that horse and it's already dead, as the saying goes.
Speaker B:But I try my best to humor you until I can't do it any longer, and then I'm just like, I'm just gonna leave because it's better for me just to walk away.
Speaker B:But I mean, we.
Speaker B:We got through the calendar.
Speaker B:For all intents and purposes, it's your calendar.
Speaker B:It's not mine.
Speaker B:It's your calendar.
Speaker A:Yeah, but it's things that we're trying to.
Speaker A:But it's things we're trying to do together.
Speaker A:Some of it is.
Speaker B:Some of it is.
Speaker B:And the things that we are doing together.
Speaker B:I don't know how many times we have to discuss what that.
Speaker B:That's about.
Speaker B:It seems like you need to know.
Speaker B:Every single time, every single week, every single day.
Speaker A:I just want to plan certain things out.
Speaker A:And I think that's the key, right?
Speaker A:Because I want to have that list.
Speaker A:I want to plan it out.
Speaker A:I want to know that this is what I'm working on and you're okay just.
Speaker A:Just where it is.
Speaker B:No, I'm okay saying, you know what, maybe we had something planned to do, but it didn't work out for whatever reason, the weather is not great or something else came up and we can move or deflect you, on the other hand, because you've planned something out weeks in advance, if, God forbid, it doesn't occur, it's the end.
Speaker A:Well, but I'm not planning that far out right now.
Speaker A:The only thing that I'm trying to plan is the projects that I'm working on, and that.
Speaker A:That's key, is the projects.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And what did I say to you yesterday?
Speaker B:Pick one, pick one.
Speaker A:I had five.
Speaker B:Pick.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:But I narrowed it down to three.
Speaker A:Well, actually, I combined three of them into one, so it's part of the one one.
Speaker B:If you start to do too many things, you end up not doing anything.
Speaker B:Well, finished one master one.
Speaker B:Then anything else that you tackle on is just the next project that you want to go on.
Speaker B:But you got to get that first project to either a completion or it is automatically in rhythm.
Speaker B:It doesn't require you to baby it to death.
Speaker A:See, two of the projects were.
Speaker A:One was actually your project, and then one is this project that we have right here, which is our podcast.
Speaker A:And I didn't feel like we were making progress.
Speaker A:And I also felt like I had too much of the responsibility to do to work on them.
Speaker A:Like, you show up.
Speaker A:This is your.
Speaker A:This is.
Speaker A:This is your part of the podcast.
Speaker B:This is my contribution.
Speaker A:You record for 30 minutes and you're done.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:It's the post production that has to get out there.
Speaker A:It's the posts that have to go out there.
Speaker B:And if it's too much because you have other projects that have more precedent and are more interested for you, then focus on that.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker A:Well, that's part of the reason why we haven't recorded in a couple weeks.
Speaker B:Mainly because there was.
Speaker B:You were doing something else.
Speaker B:And it's.
Speaker B:It's fun to do when this starts to become a hassle and it becomes, move the light here, move the light there.
Speaker B:I don't want the TV here.
Speaker B:I see dots, I see shadows, I see faces.
Speaker B:Move in, move back, talk to the mic, don't talk to the mic.
Speaker B:I start to realize this just isn't fun.
Speaker B:And I could take my phone and record on my phone and that'd be it.
Speaker B:That'd be it.
Speaker B:But you are making it.
Speaker A:I'm making it into a production.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:That's the whole point of.
Speaker B:So hence why I set it up and I'll show up just to do the show itself and then I'm gone.
Speaker B:And I'm okay with that.
Speaker B:You're the one who's not okay with that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So anyways, from that conversation we took out that.
Speaker A:That you actually did make progress on your Clutters to Cash project that you're working on.
Speaker B:I got.
Speaker B:I got further along with it, that's for sure.
Speaker A:You got all the pieces.
Speaker B:You helped me out with some of the more technical things because did we learn.
Speaker B:What did we know from our strength.
Speaker A:Finder test that you don't want to learn how to do it.
Speaker B:Correct.
Speaker B:Because my learning isn't even close to the top 10.
Speaker A:It's all, I'm number one and you're down at 32.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:So if it's going to take a lot of time for me to learn a technique or anything, too much.
Speaker A:If it takes too much effort from you to figure it out.
Speaker A:If you have to ask Claude more than three questions.
Speaker B:No, I don't mind asking Claude the questions, but sometimes he's going to.
Speaker B:He gives you these steps that you have to do and then you get there and then you're like, okay, but it didn't do what you wanted to do.
Speaker B:So then you got to go back and you got to ask Claude again.
Speaker A:Or it's too many steps and you just go, this.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:It's just too much.
Speaker B:I mean, the objective of AI is that it.
Speaker B:It eventually should make your life a little easier, right?
Speaker B:It should automate.
Speaker A:It gives you more.
Speaker A:Gives you more ideas.
Speaker B:Or it can.
Speaker B:Or it can overwhelm you and overflowed your brain.
Speaker B:So if you just think of the simplistic little things that you want to be able to accomplish and not make this out to be this, you know, ginormous project, then you're more likely to say, okay, I got this far.
Speaker B:I made this attempt, I made, I made this type of headway on the project and then it's okay.
Speaker B:Once again, what are you doing?
Speaker B:Oh, I'm playing with something.
Speaker A:Yeah, just making sure the noise canceling was set right.
Speaker A:I know, I know.
Speaker A:I can't.
Speaker B:In your head there's noises.
Speaker B:All right, I understand.
Speaker A:So, but you got, you made progress.
Speaker A:You got, you got parts of your project loaded into Claude to give you some ideas on how you're going to market it.
Speaker A:How are you going to actually build an app?
Speaker B:No, no, we haven't touched marketing.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:We just talked about, we simply put the information in there.
Speaker B:That's it does not get ahead of ourselves.
Speaker B:We ask some preliminary questions on how we should approach this based upon what I'm looking for, but that's it.
Speaker A:Okay, well, you got an idea for building an app.
Speaker A:It gave you some different options.
Speaker B:It gave me an option because I only wanted one thing.
Speaker B:To do one thing.
Speaker B:What did I say yesterday?
Speaker B:It has to be a self running machine.
Speaker B:Look at it when I need to.
Speaker B:But it's got to be self sufficient.
Speaker B:It's got to be doing its own thing.
Speaker B:Otherwise it'll take up too much time.
Speaker B:I'll have to remember to do certain things and it can become overwhelming.
Speaker B:And I don't want overwhelming.
Speaker A:Then it's no longer fun fun.
Speaker A:And why did I, why did I even do this?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Why did I go down this path?
Speaker B:For what?
Speaker B:What was the point?
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker A:So the.
Speaker B:But you updated your calendar too, because what did I say?
Speaker B:We've already finished the first half of this year.
Speaker B:Let's get the second half going.
Speaker A:Yeah, almost did.
Speaker A:We got one more month.
Speaker A:I left, I left that month up there, but I did start July through November, so.
Speaker B:And what was the other thing we did yesterday that was pretty much fun.
Speaker B:Somebody gave us a tool to use to figure out where we want to retire to.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:And I don't remember what the, what it was called.
Speaker A:It's basically called astrocartography.
Speaker B:So you have to put the date of your birth.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Your exact time, your exact date of birth.
Speaker A:The exact time of birth and where you were born and where we were born.
Speaker A:And then basically what you're looking for, you know, what the different things are that you, that you want, that you're.
Speaker B:Thinking of when, when you.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, what's, what's Your lifestyle.
Speaker A:What, what do you want?
Speaker A:What do you, do you want to be in a town?
Speaker A:Do you want to be in the country?
Speaker B:So you filled out all these questions and we combine them both so that it would give us an idea of,.
Speaker A:Yeah, now we could do this.
Speaker A:We could do this individually, but, yeah, you know, wherever we end up retiring to or where we want to go, whether it's full time or part time, we're going to do it together.
Speaker B:Together.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So might as well combine your.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Combine our thoughts.
Speaker A:So, I mean, that's where AI can really help you.
Speaker A:And it gave us.
Speaker A:It really pinpointed basically based on what we're looking for and gave us some ideas and where it is.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:Both in the United States and out of the United States.
Speaker B:Where do we want.
Speaker B:Where.
Speaker B:Based upon our lifestyle and based upon what we're looking for, what would be some places we could go look at?
Speaker B:Because really, that's what, that's what you want.
Speaker A:I mean, we're at that stage in our life right now that we're exploring.
Speaker A:You know, we're not ready to retire yet, but we want to start thinking about where we're going.
Speaker B:We can't retire yet.
Speaker B:Let's, let's.
Speaker B:It's not that we don't want to.
Speaker B:We can.
Speaker B:So that was.
Speaker A:Well, there you go right there.
Speaker A:You may want to.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker B:Retirement for me is based on no longer having to be responsible to an employer to show up for work.
Speaker B:It doesn't mean I'm retiring to sit down and watch TV all day long.
Speaker B:Okay, so let's be clear.
Speaker B:You want to continue working for your current employer?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:So when I say I'm going to retire, that is what I mean by retirement.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I may agree.
Speaker A:I mean, I don't want to quit my job tomorrow, but I need to prepare for when I want to leave.
Speaker B:You can't quit your job tomorrow.
Speaker B:We have certain basic things we still need to.
Speaker A:If I, if I did, we wouldn't be able to reach some of the goals that we want to make before we do.
Speaker A:We could both retire tomorrow.
Speaker A:We would have to change how we live.
Speaker B:Well, we'd be poor.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Nobody wants that.
Speaker A:We would have a different lifestyle.
Speaker A:I wouldn't say we'd be poor, but we would have a different lifestyle.
Speaker B:Yeah, I don't know what you do.
Speaker A:Well, that all.
Speaker A:That all has to.
Speaker A:That all has to go with how we defined what our requirements were, where we wanted.
Speaker B:What did I say was, was.
Speaker B:Was my definition of what I considered to Be.
Speaker A:Or you want luxury and bougie.
Speaker A:That pretty much describes this right here.
Speaker A:I mean, there's.
Speaker A:There's some.
Speaker A:There's some practicality there, but when it comes to, like, where we want to stay, how we want our house, where we want to live, we want.
Speaker A:We want.
Speaker A:Okay, I wouldn't.
Speaker A:I wouldn't say it's like full on bougie.
Speaker A:You're.
Speaker B:I mean, it's luxurious.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:You want something much more than Motel 6.
Speaker B:Oh, that's not even in the realm of my frame.
Speaker B:I know that would be.
Speaker B:I'm poor, and I would be.
Speaker B:I would be a very angry, poor person.
Speaker B:I think I would.
Speaker B:I wouldn't be.
Speaker B:I couldn't handle that for too long.
Speaker B:I wouldn't handle that for too long.
Speaker B:That would not be what.
Speaker B:What I would have signed up for in the long.
Speaker A:I think it's.
Speaker A:I think it's.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:We've experienced some nice things, and you learn to appreciate those things.
Speaker B:At the same time, we've been very fortunate because we've.
Speaker B:Some people have had work to get one house.
Speaker B:We've had three.
Speaker B:So we've.
Speaker B:By virtue of who we are and how long we've been married, we've done far more things than many, many married couples.
Speaker B:And when, and you know, you think about it, having had three homes and worked on those homes and, and achieved those homes, and each home got progressively better and better.
Speaker B:That just goes to show the type of people we are, right?
Speaker A:Because we.
Speaker A:We worked for what we wanted.
Speaker B:We should.
Speaker A:Whether we.
Speaker A:Whether it was our jobs that provided the income or it was something else, or it was the labor that we put into.
Speaker B:Into fixing into repairs, because we would do it.
Speaker A:But we've seen enough that you.
Speaker A:You understand craftsmanship, from molding to fixtures,.
Speaker B:Fixtures, whatever, you understand how things go.
Speaker B:And like when we sold the last house and the realtor came in and he looked and he saw all the finishes that we had put in, into the kitchen, into the bathroom, the master bathroom.
Speaker B:It was like really high end.
Speaker B:And what was my response to him?
Speaker B:I put it in because that's what I wanted.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Not because I was selling.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:That's what I wanted.
Speaker B:So it's kind of like you reached.
Speaker B:You reached a certain level that you said, this is what I want.
Speaker B:This is what I deserve.
Speaker B:This is what.
Speaker B:What I'm.
Speaker B:It's going to make me happy and it's going to make me comfortable, so I'm going to push myself to make sure that I can get it done right.
Speaker A:And we did so now we're at the stage of.
Speaker A:We're exploring potential places of where we want to be in the next, you.
Speaker B:Know, so it'll be good because we were planning.
Speaker B:I, ironically enough, we were planning on a trip to Europe in September.
Speaker B:Like September, October in that area.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:And he said it goes all right, so where would you go?
Speaker B:And I was like, well, I'd like to go to Portugal.
Speaker B:Let's try Portugal first.
Speaker A:Well, we talked to a couple.
Speaker A:Portugal, Spain, that port.
Speaker A:The Portuguese people are just really great people.
Speaker A:And it's a place that we should.
Speaker B:Go and try and see if.
Speaker B:If it'll work for us.
Speaker B:But when we did the assessment.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:The top three came out.
Speaker B:Portugal, Spain, Italy.
Speaker B:Italy.
Speaker A:And then it was South Carolina.
Speaker A:And Florida was the South.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:South Carolina.
Speaker B:Charleston, South Carolina.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Sarasota, Florida.
Speaker B:Sarasota, Florida.
Speaker B:So we said, okay, so let's.
Speaker A:So we have our, we have our next five trips.
Speaker A:Destinations.
Speaker A:We don't have anything planned yet, but we have the destinations.
Speaker B:We have destinations already, but I think,.
Speaker A:I think we are going to go to Portugal in September.
Speaker A:Yes, that's.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:We wanted to travel outside the US this year anyways.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:So now we actually have, we actually have the city in mind.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:And an itinerary pre planned.
Speaker A:We have to look it over and see what.
Speaker B:Now the funny thing is, is that people who've known us for a long time, friends that know us for a long time, I don't know about too many family members, but friends that have known us for a long time will probably turn around and say, that's just like you, Gregors.
Speaker B:You just don't throw something into the wind and see where it takes you.
Speaker B:You have to have some sense of reason behind it.
Speaker A:Oh, so some of my planning and thinking actually means something then?
Speaker B:Well, in this particular instance, we didn't.
Speaker B:We take those types of little tests for two things.
Speaker B:Number one, it's fun.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's fun because then you, you either learn, oh, wow, it's really on point as to what it says about us or I don't know where that was coming from.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't know how that even came about, but it gives you some, some fun facts.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:If it's done correctly, it's not.
Speaker B:I mean, we're highlight things.
Speaker A:We're in an extraordinary.
Speaker A:We're in an exploratory phase right now.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So you just want to.
Speaker A:So we want all your options and we.
Speaker B:And use tools to help you Explore.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker A:To give you the ideas on where would you want to be.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because as much as I'd want to be on the west coast, you don't want to be on the west Coast.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:You know, and it's going to be.
Speaker B:A big earthquake and it's going to float out to an island.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But we both love the ocean.
Speaker B:We both love the ocean.
Speaker A:That's the one thing about where we live right now.
Speaker A:I mean I, I so far really like it.
Speaker A:I like to just go sit out there and just watch the birds and the boats and I like it.
Speaker B:But to me it's still very seasonal and have been moved in here for Christmas or right after Christmas in the February.
Speaker B:February.
Speaker B:I mean the winter of winters we had.
Speaker B:I can honestly tell you that I'm going to sit back and say, you know what, it would have been nice is if we had that wood burning fireplace.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Even today it's like 50.
Speaker A:I mean, I know it's not that cold.
Speaker A:I think still it's, it's wet and damp and it's.
Speaker B:Every house we've had, we've had a fireplace.
Speaker B:Every house we've had.
Speaker B:All three houses had fireplace and the last house had two.
Speaker B:But that is an important element.
Speaker A:Well, we learned that we also don't want just an open fireplace.
Speaker A:It needs to be right.
Speaker B:It needs to have an insert into it.
Speaker B:But we, but we ex.
Speaker B:The last house we experimented with the insert that was wood burning.
Speaker A:We would burning and gas.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But the wood burning still gave you the, the.
Speaker B:Because you would have thought that the window would have been too small.
Speaker B:You don't get that.
Speaker A:But we had the stove in the other house that he did the whole downstairs and it was.
Speaker A:You had to wear shorts.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:For some you didn't.
Speaker B:I know for some reason when we just had seemed.
Speaker A:Well, it was, it was very cozy in our family room.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean that's where we spent most of our time.
Speaker B:But I mean to me that's what's missing here in this, in this apartment.
Speaker B:It's not necessarily the view.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It still needs a little bit more coziness to it.
Speaker B:And there's something about having a wood burning fireplace that really.
Speaker A:That won't happen here.
Speaker A:We could maybe get an electric one that fits under the TV that looks like.
Speaker A:Give us, give us.
Speaker B:Has a picture.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It gives us a feeling of, of, of wood.
Speaker B:Of wood burning, of crackling wood burning.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:Yeah, but.
Speaker B:So those are the kind of things that we've Learned are important to us.
Speaker B:Like I would probably say that I would be okay with a small master bedroom as long as I had a massive kitchen, like massive kitchen.
Speaker B:I could be, I could be, I could be happy in that.
Speaker B:And you know, some people need a very large master suite, but I'd be okay with a great master suite and.
Speaker A:A bathroom, but I'm not sure about that large kitchen.
Speaker B:I want the large kitchen.
Speaker B:I had to give up so much.
Speaker A:If we end up, if we end up being in a walking community, are you going to want to cook on occasion?
Speaker B:Because we've learned living here that you can go out to eat very often, but it's not necessarily ideal.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:So it's not a matter of not having the options to go out and eat.
Speaker B:It's more like, do you want to.
Speaker A:Do that all the time?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Do you want to do that all the time?
Speaker A:And it, and this body is a result of doing that too many times.
Speaker A:And that's, and that's one of the other struggles that we work with or I'm working through right now anyways, is just trying to figure out myself at this stage in life when things don't function the way they used to.
Speaker B:Gosh darn it, they don't function.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:And, and you know, with the small changes you make, you think you would make changes and they're not, they would have epic changes.
Speaker A:Well, I don't care about epic changes, but I'd like to see them change and go in the other direction and not, and not continue.
Speaker A:Already you're building muscle and muscles heavier than fat, right?
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:Well, it doesn't seem to be that way.
Speaker A:But, but so that, so that's the journey that I'm personally on right now, is really trying to understand my own body and, and what it needs and doesn't need, you know, and you know, we tried.
Speaker A:That was one thing that we also did in the last few weeks is we've tried the moves method.
Speaker A:It's a, it's a flex, flexibility or mobility exercises and you realize how unmobile.
Speaker B:You really are, how off centered you.
Speaker A:Can be and how, how difficult it is to do some basic things, you know, like, and at this stage right now it's, it's like, okay, my future self is trying to tell me keep going, keep going, you can get there.
Speaker A:But my current self is saying, man, I really don't want to get in these positions.
Speaker B:It does, it does have some humorous moments.
Speaker B:I'm not going to laugh because you could sit back there and you can look, I Really, I admire people that have worked at that and they, they, they really have it down to a science and can do it.
Speaker A:So be just like our two year old granddaughter who squat, squat in five.
Speaker B:Seconds and she can stay in that.
Speaker A:Position and it's comfortable for her.
Speaker B:Yeah, she's not say, oh, my knee hurts or my th.
Speaker B:Thigh is hurting or my hip is, is pulling out.
Speaker B:She's just whoop, whoop, whoop.
Speaker B:She can go up and down, up and down, up and down.
Speaker B:And that's great.
Speaker B:It really, truly that's what we're trying to do.
Speaker A:We have wedges to help us.
Speaker A:I'm looking at them right here on the floor.
Speaker A:On the floor right now.
Speaker B:The wedges are funny though.
Speaker A:But they do help you get down lower.
Speaker B:They can, yeah, they, they definitely get.
Speaker A:Our feet flat on the floor.
Speaker B:That's really what we should be videotaping.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:That will end up being very humorous for, for a lot of people to see, but also to the point where you could see that you had two people in their 60s now that are not in perfect shape.
Speaker A:But, but it, it shows us, you know, we're not doing it for, so we can look good or whatever.
Speaker A:We're doing it just so we can do the basics like tie your shoe, carry groceries in from the car, those kind of things.
Speaker A:That's the long term goal for these things, is to make sure we can still do those basic things.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker B:No, that's perfectly fine.
Speaker B:I can tie my shoes.
Speaker B:That's not my big.
Speaker A:Yeah, so can I.
Speaker A:But I'm just saying that if I keep going the way I'm going, it may be more of a struggle.
Speaker B:You'll be looking for more slip on shoes.
Speaker A:Yeah,.
Speaker B:Let's get the slip on sneakers and the slip on shoes so we don't have to worry about tying anything.
Speaker A:No, it's just about the flexibility of being able to do that.
Speaker A:I mean, I look at my, our neighbor who's probably 70.
Speaker B:You think he's that old?
Speaker A:Yeah, he's, I think he's in his 70s and I mean he goes out and paddle boards almost daily.
Speaker B:He swims in the pool.
Speaker A:Yep, swims in the pool.
Speaker A:And the pool is just barely opened.
Speaker A:He sails, he rides, he rides his bike.
Speaker A:Yeah, but it's too warm for him.
Speaker B:It's like in the 80s, he said.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, I think that's what the ad said, that they keep the pool.
Speaker A:Around 82 to 85 and it's too, too, that's too warm for him.
Speaker A:I mean, he's out when we're having the snowstorms.
Speaker A:I look out, I look.
Speaker A:I look out there and I see him in his paddle board with a sweatsuit on.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So, I mean.
Speaker A:So, I mean, that says something because, you know, you're still trying to take care of your body and you're trying to, you know, stay in shape.
Speaker A:I mean, he might take it to an extreme that some of us won't.
Speaker A:Just, like, it's raining.
Speaker A:It's raining pretty good today, and there's still people out there jogging and running, even in the rain.
Speaker A:And you said, what?
Speaker A:That's so not going to be me.
Speaker B:That is so not going to be me.
Speaker A:No, no, no.
Speaker B:I'm okay with.
Speaker B:At a certain point in your life, you have to just do.
Speaker B:Do you want to be a little bit better?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:But do you want to be at that other extreme level?
Speaker B:I was never at that extreme level, so I don't know what that really would mean.
Speaker A:Achievement.
Speaker A:Achievement's your top of your list.
Speaker A:Nor is competition.
Speaker A:I'm not sure where.
Speaker B:I don't know why.
Speaker B:Competition.
Speaker B:I don't know where it is.
Speaker A:I. I have to look and see.
Speaker B:Yeah, I don't know if it's way down, but.
Speaker A:But there is something to be said.
Speaker B:I think I. I'm.
Speaker B:I'm not big on competition, mainly because I think I've always looked at it from my job perspective and what I do for a living, that if anybody wanted to do what I do, I'd step back and I'd say, go for it.
Speaker B:Like, try it.
Speaker B:Because I know deep down inside there are certain things you're going to be really good at and certain things you're not going to be really good at.
Speaker B:And until you attempt it, until you try it, you just don't know.
Speaker B:So for me, competition comes into effect where somebody wants to do something that they've never tried before.
Speaker B:And that's not a competition for me.
Speaker B:That's more like, go for it, try it.
Speaker B:And I think sometimes I think of competition as if you were rowing or playing basketball or playing a kind of sport.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, there are things we need to do, and sometimes we can't use certain things as a reason not to do them.
Speaker A:You know, it's like.
Speaker A:I mean, we try to ride our bikes every day, but if it's raining, we're not going to ride our bike.
Speaker A:You know, that doesn't mean we shouldn't still go for a walk or something.
Speaker B:I'm not walking in the rain, but.
Speaker A:That's probably where I need to push myself a little bit more at times.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:I mean, I have considered rowing.
Speaker A:Like those guys out there.
Speaker B:Those guys are being yelled at by a guy on a motorboat.
Speaker A:I've seen the.
Speaker A:Our age group rowers, and they're not.
Speaker A:They're out there more for the exercise.
Speaker A:They're usually out there before these guys do because.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker B:Because these.
Speaker A:Because they, they were.
Speaker A:They were out there.
Speaker A:When I would take my boat out and I would see them, I would see one guy who was similar to our neighbor in age, and that's what he did every day.
Speaker A:Every day that I went out early on my boat.
Speaker A:He was out there.
Speaker A:Yeah, he was by himself.
Speaker A:He had a.
Speaker A:He had a long boat and he was out there rowing.
Speaker A:That was his.
Speaker A:His form of exercise.
Speaker B:Exercise, which I think is great.
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I have to say.
Speaker A:I mean, I'm not a gym person and that's something I want to.
Speaker A:We've got a membership.
Speaker B:We've been successful at eliminating things we.
Speaker A:Don't want to do when it comes to exercise.
Speaker B:Yes, we've tried the gym.
Speaker B:Yeah, that didn't work out.
Speaker A:What else have we tried that we didn't like?
Speaker B:We've done the gym.
Speaker B:We've done yoga.
Speaker B:Yoga is really hard to do and.
Speaker A:Because we haven't stuck with it long enough.
Speaker B:We haven't stuck with it long enough.
Speaker B:And maybe we haven't found a space that was what we could enjoy.
Speaker B:I mean, we need that.
Speaker B:Whenever you do a class, they'll say, beginners are welcomed, but the reality of it all is that you're in this classroom and there are not any beginners, and you are the beginner.
Speaker B:And you see everybody really going at it great.
Speaker B:And you're kind of like, yeah, if I try to keep up, I'm going to have a heart attack.
Speaker B:And I'm just not.
Speaker A:I'm going to hear something snap, snap.
Speaker A:It's not about a heart attack.
Speaker B:It's about.
Speaker A:I can't even get to that position.
Speaker B:So it's kind of like, I guess you get discouraged because you, you try to go back because it's gonna.
Speaker A:It's a process to get to where they're at.
Speaker A:They've been doing it for years.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:You know, and I think that's the one thing we have to really realize that trying any of that kind of.
Speaker B:Stuff, but take some time.
Speaker A:But for me, it's like, I want to be active in.
Speaker A:In a sport or something.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Like rowing.
Speaker A:I could see myself doing that, but I. I don't know if I could feel very good in that position yet.
Speaker A:No, but I love playing tennis.
Speaker A:And to me, that was the best form of cardiovascular exercise that I can get.
Speaker A:So that's something I'm going to look into joining.
Speaker B:Right, right.
Speaker A:What about you?
Speaker B:I think the only class that I really enjoyed was when I did the dance class.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Again, it's very hard in cardio, but there's something about the loudness of the music and the rhythm and the constant moving.
Speaker B:I mean, it wasn't like you were doing squats or kicks or anything like that.
Speaker B:It was a lot totally, totally different because even you were moving, but you were learning a.
Speaker B:A step.
Speaker B:You were learning how to deal with the rhythm of it.
Speaker B:Now, when you did, it wasn't your best.
Speaker A:No area.
Speaker A:That's something.
Speaker A:That's something that you can do on your own.
Speaker A:I mean, I'd love to be able to learn to dance and go dancing with you.
Speaker A:I really would, but I have to process too much up here for the.
Speaker A:For the rhythm and things to move.
Speaker A:I just don't feel it.
Speaker B:Whereas I. I didn't go for it.
Speaker B:I just go for it.
Speaker B:And I. I enjoyed it.
Speaker B:I did.
Speaker B:That was probably the one class that I took a couple of times.
Speaker A:Okay, well, maybe I'll join a tennis class and you can join a dance class.
Speaker A:And on that note, I think we should probably edit this, but we won't.
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Speaker B:I know that when we see people in person, it always surprises me when they say, hey, I watched that episode.
Speaker B:I'm like.
Speaker B:Or they'll reference something, and I'm like, how did you know that?
Speaker A:We realized.
Speaker A:Well, actually, there are a few people watching this.
Speaker A:Okay, bye.
Speaker B:Bye.