Discover how to “Love Your Leadership”, with Hakim Lakhdar from Lakhdar Coaching. Hakim shares how his unusual journey from Key West musician to Harvard Law educator to executive coach, shaped a simple truth: the way you show up daily is what builds trust, wins referrals, and creates five-star operations.
You’ll hear how to strengthen emotional intelligence, lead with authenticity, and build transparent cultures where lawyers and teams thrive. Hakim breaks down practical routines, self-audits, and mindset shifts that keep you calm, confident, and consistent in both your practice and life.
Key Topics
03:21 — Hakim shares how growing up abroad and performing in Key West shaped his coaching lens
04:14 — Discover how work in Central Asia revealed the power of professional coaching
04:47 — Learn how executive education at Harvard and Miami Law shaped his approach with attorneys
06:02 — Hear why focusing on “who you’re being while you work” matters more than doing more
06:59 — See why emotional intelligence is no longer a “soft skill” but a must-have for lawyers
10:02 — Get a no-judgment method to self-audit and increase self-awareness
12:08 — Understand how stripping away law school conditioning helps you lead authentically
14:04 — Compare two similar firms and learn how operations create dramatically different results
14:43 — Discover how transparency and open communication strengthen culture and execution
19:07 — Hakim explains how honest self-check-ins guide career pivots and keep leadership aligned
20:59 — Hear how early sensitivity became a leadership superpower with the right channel
22:59 — Learn how personality frameworks like DISC and animal types help teams work better together
24:51 — Explore Hakim’s “why” and what it means to truly love your leadership
26:38 — See how AI tools like Fathom and ChatGPT support focus and productivity
29:15 — Find out how morning routines, fitness, and wellness practices protect long-term energy
31:01 — Discover books that reshape money mindset and client value in entrepreneurship
32:40 — Hear which podcasts and thought-provoking content Hakim values for growth
33:43 — Learn why referrals to coaching are best viewed as a gift, not criticism
Resources Mentioned
Books
Podcasts
About our Guest:
Hakim helps leaders uncover the unseen patterns blocking their success so they can lead with authenticity, courage, and clarity. For over 15 years, he has guided entrepreneurs, executives, and high performers worldwide—from directing high-profile programs at Harvard Law School to serving with the American Bar Association in Washington, D.C., Kyrgyzstan, and Tajikistan, to coaching leaders across industries. As host of the Access Your Leadership podcast, Hakim shares powerful stories of transformation and practical strategies for mastering self-leadership, navigating career transitions, and overcoming leadership challenges. A devoted husband and proud father to identical twin boys, Hakim believes leadership is deeply personal—because it’s not just about what you do, but who you are being.
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About Jay Berkowitz:
Jay Berkowitz is a best-selling author and popular keynote speaker. Mr. Berkowitz managed marketing departments at: Coca-Cola, Sprint and McDonald's Restaurants, and he is the Founder and CEO of Ten Golden Rules, a digital marketing agency specialized in working with attorneys.
Mr. Berkowitz is the author of Advanced Internet Marketing for Law Firms, The Ten Golden Rules of Online Marketing and 10 Free Internet Marketing Strategies that went to #1 on Amazon. He is the host of the Ten Golden Rules of Internet Marketing Webinar and Podcast. He has been profiled by the Wall Street Journal, The Business Journals and FOX Business TV.
Mr. Berkowitz was selected for membership as a TITAN for Elite Digital Marketing Agencies, he is the recipient of a SOFIE Award for Most Effective use of Emerging Media, and a Special BERNAY’s Award.
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I spent most of my early career surrounded by
Hakim Lakhdar:lawyers. So I got to learn them in my degree in undergrad with
Hakim Lakhdar:sociology. So I'm a lover of people and groups and the way
Hakim Lakhdar:that people operate and think, and, you know, to observe them
Hakim Lakhdar:as I always would. I learned a lot about the way lawyers think
Hakim Lakhdar:and the way that lawyers operate, and as any lawyer will
Hakim Lakhdar:attest to, the journey through law school is this sort of like
Hakim Lakhdar:forced molding of what a lawyer ought to look like and think
Hakim Lakhdar:like and talk like. And what I'm always encouraging my legal
Hakim Lakhdar:professional clients to do is let's try to strip some of that
Hakim Lakhdar:away. Let's keep all the learning, let's keep all the
Hakim Lakhdar:experience, all the valuable things that you've acquired
Hakim Lakhdar:along the way, but let's strip some of the expectations and the
Hakim Lakhdar:shoulds and all of that and get back to sort of who you are at
Hakim Lakhdar:your core, so that you can operate in a unique way to you,
Hakim Lakhdar:but also in an authentic way. And that becomes something that
Hakim Lakhdar:become much more consistent, much more confident in the way
Hakim Lakhdar:that you deliver that, and then your clients feel that as well,
Hakim Lakhdar:versus reinventing yourself. Who am I going to be today? What
Hakim Lakhdar:lawyer does my client need me to be today? Yes, circumstances
Hakim Lakhdar:require a different approach, but not a different person. And
Hakim Lakhdar:I think that I'm always curious to see who you really are. I
Hakim Lakhdar:mean that question, so who are you can be really uncomfortable
Hakim Lakhdar:and confronting for a lot of people, especially lawyers, when
Hakim Lakhdar:they've worked so hard to create an image or a persona around who
Hakim Lakhdar:they are as legal professionals. So I like to strip that away and
Hakim Lakhdar:kind of get back to if you were to do this exactly your way,
Hakim Lakhdar:what would it look
Jay Berkowitz:like? Well, good morning, good afternoon, good
Jay Berkowitz:evening, whatever time this podcast finds you, welcome to
Jay Berkowitz:the 10 golden rules of internet marketing for law firms podcast.
Jay Berkowitz:Great guest today. We'll get to him in two seconds. Today's
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Jay Berkowitz:So today's commercial is, send it to a friend. Thank you in
Jay Berkowitz:advance. And today I'm excited. I'm like extra fired up today.
Jay Berkowitz:You guys can tell, because my guest today is someone I've
Jay Berkowitz:known for about three or four years. We've been in two
Jay Berkowitz:different networking groups together. Hakeem lachdar from
Jay Berkowitz:lockdar coaching, welcome to the 10 golden rules of internet
Jay Berkowitz:marketing for law firms podcast.
Hakim Lakhdar:Mister Jay Berkowitz, I am so excited to be
Hakim Lakhdar:here with you today. I'm a big fan, and this is fun.
Jay Berkowitz:This is like extra fun for me because we've
Jay Berkowitz:shared beers and lunches and networking and referrals and
Jay Berkowitz:conferences, and we've done it all. So yeah, today it's a
Jay Berkowitz:little bit extra fun for me. We always start out with a
Jay Berkowitz:question, and we want to learn a little bit about your journey.
Jay Berkowitz:And Hakeem has got a great one, by the way, I might even coax
Jay Berkowitz:him to sing before we tell him that in advance. So his journey
Jay Berkowitz:includes singing. So tell us how you became locked our coaching.
Hakim Lakhdar:Well, I won't even go into all the twists and
Hakim Lakhdar:turns, and thank you, Jay for already planting the seed there,
Hakim Lakhdar:because my hand starts sweating, and the minute you said, I was
Hakim Lakhdar:like, Oh no, yeah, I've had a really interesting journey. I
Hakim Lakhdar:spent the early years of my life in the Middle East, Kuwait and
Hakim Lakhdar:Saudi Arabia. I moved to Florida, where I grew up most of
Hakim Lakhdar:my life. Went to Florida State University, go Knowles, and
Hakim Lakhdar:started playing music there toward the southeast, ended up
Hakim Lakhdar:being a featured act in Key West, Florida, which is what you
Hakim Lakhdar:were alluding to, played at Irish Kevin's, the best bar in
Hakim Lakhdar:Key West and had an amazing time. But I knew that there was
Hakim Lakhdar:something more for me out there. I was destined to do more with
Hakim Lakhdar:my talents and my experiences, and I went to graduate school in
Hakim Lakhdar:Indiana University. I moved to DC, and next thing I knew, I was
Hakim Lakhdar:in Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, working in places that are not
Hakim Lakhdar:on your short list of Spring Break destinations, but what an
Hakim Lakhdar:amazing opportunity to go to Central Asia and work there. And
Hakim Lakhdar:that's where I fell in love with coaching. I was helping to
Hakim Lakhdar:support and develop my field staff out there, and while they
Hakim Lakhdar:would benefit from so much information around writing
Hakim Lakhdar:quarterly reports or annual reports. They really, actually
Hakim Lakhdar:were hungry for leadership, support, professional coaching.
Hakim Lakhdar:And I saw that need, and I leaned into it, and I absolutely
Hakim Lakhdar:loved it. And I moved on to another opportunity at Harvard
Hakim Lakhdar:Law School. Did executive education there with lawyers,
Hakim Lakhdar:leadership and management training for lawyers around the
Hakim Lakhdar:world, and then moved back down to South Florida with my wife
Hakim Lakhdar:and kids. I was working at University of Miami, also doing
Hakim Lakhdar:a more executive education, and just felt this pull to working
Hakim Lakhdar:with individuals, one on one, because that's where I saw the
Hakim Lakhdar:real opportunity for transformation.
Jay Berkowitz:So you took your talents from Tajikistan to South
Jay Berkowitz:Beach. That's right, that's right. Oh yeah. LeBron. James
Jay Berkowitz:LeBron, yep, you brought your talents back to South Beach.
Jay Berkowitz:That's awesome. So Hakeem works with a lot of attorneys. He also
Jay Berkowitz:works with a lot of folks who aren't attorneys. Yeah, but tell
Jay Berkowitz:me about your company and the current role, and you do a kind
Jay Berkowitz:of a unique approach to coaching. You aren't as much
Jay Berkowitz:about the doing you as as you explained it, you're more about
Jay Berkowitz:how you do it, but yeah, I'll let you say it in your words.
Hakim Lakhdar:Yeah. Thank you so locked our coaching has been
Hakim Lakhdar:around since 2019 it's a one man show. I have a lot of people who
Hakim Lakhdar:support what I do in terms of helping me on my podcast and
Hakim Lakhdar:social media and things like that, but in terms of what I do
Hakim Lakhdar:and who does it, it's me, and I love that, because I get to
Hakim Lakhdar:interact with my clients very intimately throughout our
Hakim Lakhdar:engagements. And as you said, we're spending so much time, and
Hakim Lakhdar:myself included, focused on what we need to do more of what we
Hakim Lakhdar:need to do better. And I really like working with my clients on
Hakim Lakhdar:who they're being while they do it, and that understanding of
Hakim Lakhdar:who they are being, what they are feeling, what they are
Hakim Lakhdar:experiencing, what they love, what they don't love, what
Hakim Lakhdar:they're good at, what they could work on to improve as they're
Hakim Lakhdar:doing all of these things that were being, you know, sort of
Hakim Lakhdar:encouraged and sometimes even pressured to do, whether it's
Hakim Lakhdar:self imposed or not, that piece of it, the being piece of it,
Hakim Lakhdar:the understanding what it means to lead oneself before leading
Hakim Lakhdar:others is really the essence of my coaching.
Jay Berkowitz:There's a couple terms that keep coming up in my
Jay Berkowitz:sphere. Well, one of them is nonviolent communications, NVC,
Jay Berkowitz:and the other one is emotional intelligence. That sounds like a
Jay Berkowitz:lot of the work you do is in in those spheres.
Hakim Lakhdar:Yeah, yeah. 100% I think emotional intelligence,
Hakim Lakhdar:especially. We see the posts everywhere now where people are
Hakim Lakhdar:very vocal about how these once named soft skills, are no longer
Hakim Lakhdar:soft these are must haves. These are crucial skills to success,
Hakim Lakhdar:and a lot of people didn't understand how that factored
Hakim Lakhdar:into an individual's success, especially if they were a high
Hakim Lakhdar:achiever or top performer. But actually it's that top
Hakim Lakhdar:performance, plus the emotional intelligence piece, some of
Hakim Lakhdar:those soft skills, which I'm reluctant to even call them that
Hakim Lakhdar:anymore, but the emotional intelligence piece is what
Hakim Lakhdar:allows people to be trustworthy, to build trust, to create
Hakim Lakhdar:relationships to, you know, maintain clients long term. And
Hakim Lakhdar:I think that's something that people are really starting to
Hakim Lakhdar:lean into, and really starting to focus a lot more of their
Hakim Lakhdar:resources on.
Jay Berkowitz:So give us emotional intelligence for
Jay Berkowitz:dummies. What are three of the skills, or seven of the steps?
Jay Berkowitz:Yeah.
Hakim Lakhdar:Well, I think emotional intelligence, as I
Hakim Lakhdar:would define it, is really a deeper and clear understanding
Hakim Lakhdar:of one's self from an emotional level, obviously, but how you
Hakim Lakhdar:react to things, what sort of things trigger you, how you make
Hakim Lakhdar:people around you feel your ability or inability to connect
Hakim Lakhdar:deeply with others. And again, deeply doesn't mean deep, dark
Hakim Lakhdar:secrets and over sharing. It just means being real and
Hakim Lakhdar:authentic. And the only way to do that, I think, in terms of
Hakim Lakhdar:the self awareness that's required for higher emotional
Hakim Lakhdar:intelligence, is just that to become more self aware. They're
Hakim Lakhdar:not three or seven. I think it's really more than more like one,
Hakim Lakhdar:it's finding a practice that works for you, where you can
Hakim Lakhdar:start noticing patterns that are developing in the way that you
Hakim Lakhdar:interact with people based on your emotional responses to
Hakim Lakhdar:things.
Jay Berkowitz:Maybe differentiate, for me, the role
Jay Berkowitz:in communicating with clients and customers and peers and
Jay Berkowitz:communicating with employees? Yeah.
Hakim Lakhdar:I mean, I think we could pick that apart, and I
Hakim Lakhdar:think there are potentially different ways that one might
Hakim Lakhdar:communicate to each of those groups, depending on what the
Hakim Lakhdar:perceived outcome is, but ultimately they're all the same,
Hakim Lakhdar:because, as I was sharing with you earlier, it's really about
Hakim Lakhdar:leading oneself first before leading others. And you are
Hakim Lakhdar:leading your clients, you are leading your employees, you are
Hakim Lakhdar:leading your peers. And if you are effective at leading
Hakim Lakhdar:yourself, and you know where you're coming from, and it's
Hakim Lakhdar:consistent and it's authentic and it's clear and it's
Hakim Lakhdar:confident, then it's consistent like that across the groups.
Hakim Lakhdar:Yes, your intention may be different, or your desired
Hakim Lakhdar:outcome might be slightly different, but the way in which
Hakim Lakhdar:you communicate ought to be the same. And I think it ought to be
Hakim Lakhdar:the same, not because it should, but because that's what's going
Hakim Lakhdar:to feel most congruent, most aligned with you, and you're not
Hakim Lakhdar:going to have to force or fake your way through communication.
Jay Berkowitz:You used the terms earlier about learning
Jay Berkowitz:yourself and doing a self audit. Again, that's part of the work
Jay Berkowitz:you do with your clients, but maybe give us the high level.
Jay Berkowitz:Yeah. How? Someone can do that. Is there a book? Is there a
Jay Berkowitz:course?
Hakim Lakhdar:Or there are lots of interesting books around
Hakim Lakhdar:this? Anything that you can look up, if you just Google Self
Hakim Lakhdar:Mastery, for example, that's really good. Andrew Bryant is
Hakim Lakhdar:another godfather of self leadership, which is the core of
Hakim Lakhdar:my coaching, leading oneself, first and foremost. But I think
Hakim Lakhdar:that the essence of of self audits or self leadership or
Hakim Lakhdar:self awareness is really doing it from a place of non judgment,
Hakim Lakhdar:and that's the real crucial piece, because it's one thing to
Hakim Lakhdar:notice things about oneself, but then if you spiral into judging
Hakim Lakhdar:yourself and beating yourself up, because we all are our own
Hakim Lakhdar:harshest critic, right? I mean, once you start to notice those
Hakim Lakhdar:things, do it from a place of light, easy, fun, rather than
Hakim Lakhdar:this place of, like, overly critical, over, over, judging
Hakim Lakhdar:yourself, because then you're going to spiral out into a
Hakim Lakhdar:different direction, and you're not going to benefit from the
Jay Berkowitz:learning. If you see, I'm taking notes, we're
Jay Berkowitz:actually doing a culture exercise at our company. So, Oh,
Jay Berkowitz:fantastic. I'm paying close attention, by all means, not
Jay Berkowitz:only is he a good guy and a buddy smart. I forgot that part
Jay Berkowitz:in the introduction. Maybe try and put it in context for
Jay Berkowitz:lawyers. This is the Internet Marketing for law firms podcast.
Jay Berkowitz:We're doing a lot of work in growth strategies and how
Jay Berkowitz:companies can give five star operations, and I'm sure your
Jay Berkowitz:advice is relevant for everyone else we're talking to here.
Jay Berkowitz:Sure, how do you take it to that next level?
Hakim Lakhdar:Yeah, so you know this about me, Jay, but I spent
Hakim Lakhdar:over two decades working with lawyers. So even though I'm a
Hakim Lakhdar:non lawyer, as we call ourselves, I worked at the
Hakim Lakhdar:American Bar Association, I worked at Harvard Law School,
Hakim Lakhdar:and I worked at Miami law so I spent most of my early career
Hakim Lakhdar:surrounded by lawyers. So I got to learn them in my degree in
Hakim Lakhdar:undergrad with sociology. So I'm a lover of people and groups and
Hakim Lakhdar:the way that people operate and think, and, you know, to observe
Hakim Lakhdar:them as I always would. I learned a lot about the way
Hakim Lakhdar:lawyers think and the way that lawyers operate. And as any
Hakim Lakhdar:lawyer will attest to, the journey through law school is
Hakim Lakhdar:this sort of like forced molding of what a lawyer ought to look
Hakim Lakhdar:like and think like and talk like. And what I'm always
Hakim Lakhdar:encouraging my legal professional clients to do is
Hakim Lakhdar:let's try to strip some of that away. Let's keep all the
Hakim Lakhdar:learning, let's keep all the experience, all the valuable
Hakim Lakhdar:things that you've acquired along the way, but let's strip
Hakim Lakhdar:some of the expectations and the shoulds and all of that and get
Hakim Lakhdar:back to sort of who you are at your core, so that you can
Hakim Lakhdar:operate in a unique way to you, but also in an authentic way.
Hakim Lakhdar:And that becomes something that become much more consistent,
Hakim Lakhdar:much more confident in the way that you deliver that, and then
Hakim Lakhdar:your clients feel that as well. Versus reinventing yourself, Who
Hakim Lakhdar:am I going to be today? What lawyer does my client need me to
Hakim Lakhdar:be today? Yes, circumstances require a different approach,
Hakim Lakhdar:but not a different person. And I think that I'm always curious
Hakim Lakhdar:to see who you really are. I mean that question so who are
Hakim Lakhdar:you can be really uncomfortable and confronting for a lot of
Hakim Lakhdar:people, especially lawyers, when they've worked so hard to create
Hakim Lakhdar:an image or a persona around who they are as a legal
Hakim Lakhdar:professional. So I like to strip that away and kind of get back
Hakim Lakhdar:to if you were to do this exactly your way, what would it
Hakim Lakhdar:look like?
Jay Berkowitz:Perfect, well said, and I'm eating it up. So
Jay Berkowitz:you and I have an interesting viewpoint. You know, we look at
Jay Berkowitz:companies and law firms from the outside in. And now that I've
Jay Berkowitz:been doing this for many years, I feel like I have a little bit
Jay Berkowitz:of a feeling for what works and what doesn't work. Sure, I do an
Jay Berkowitz:annual planning webinar. It's actually one of our most popular
Jay Berkowitz:ones on our YouTube channel, how to build your annual business
Jay Berkowitz:and marketing plan. And I talk about two firms that each get
Jay Berkowitz:about 5000 visits to their website, and one firm signs 20
Jay Berkowitz:clients a month. One firm signs 80 clients, but the difference
Jay Berkowitz:between two firms is one runs like a business. They're super
Jay Berkowitz:organized. They give five star operations and five star service
Jay Berkowitz:to their clients, so they get five star Google reviews and all
Jay Berkowitz:kinds of referrals, and that's the biggest reason why they have
Jay Berkowitz:80 clients a month. And the other one's constantly
Jay Berkowitz:dysfunctional. They don't get referrals from people in the
Jay Berkowitz:industry, from the medical providers because they don't pay
Jay Berkowitz:on time. All the parts are broken, and, as opposed to the
Jay Berkowitz:other firmware, all the parts run super smooth. So when you
Jay Berkowitz:look from the outside in, what are some of the things that you
Jay Berkowitz:would recommend to a law firm and to any business in terms of
Jay Berkowitz:operations, management structure?
Hakim Lakhdar:Yeah, I think the word that I was thinking about
Hakim Lakhdar:as I was listening to you say that, for me, from a leadership
Hakim Lakhdar:perspective, is transparency. I think there's a lot of
Hakim Lakhdar:withholding of information. Oftentimes there's a lack of
Hakim Lakhdar:clarity in vision or what we're all working towards together. My
Hakim Lakhdar:role might be different than your role, but we're all working
Hakim Lakhdar:to. It's a common goal, or at least that's the assumption,
Hakim Lakhdar:what is that goal? What is that vision for this company, for
Hakim Lakhdar:this client? And I think that the resistance or the hesitation
Hakim Lakhdar:that people often encounter in sharing, whether it's the
Hakim Lakhdar:clarity that they have around that vision or the lack of
Hakim Lakhdar:clarity, more importantly, when people have questions, people
Hakim Lakhdar:get up in their heads and they start to judge themselves, their
Hakim Lakhdar:inner critic gets quite loud and says, don't ask that question.
Hakim Lakhdar:You're going to look silly. Don't ask that question. It's
Hakim Lakhdar:going to undermine your authority. And so things don't
Hakim Lakhdar:get talked about. And I think that within an organization,
Hakim Lakhdar:when I'm on the outside looking in, I see that communication,
Hakim Lakhdar:not type of communication, a style of communication, just
Hakim Lakhdar:communication Big C isn't happening in the way that it
Hakim Lakhdar:could. And as that improves, so do their operations.
Jay Berkowitz:Transparency is something that has changed in
Jay Berkowitz:business, and I grew up in a world where nobody would ever
Jay Berkowitz:tell a co worker how much you made. It was all very hush, hush
Jay Berkowitz:and very much in favor of management. The company would
Jay Berkowitz:never tell you how much they made. And now there's a lot of
Jay Berkowitz:openness and transparency around those things. Sure. What is that
Jay Berkowitz:just a cultural shift? Do you think or is that people respond
Jay Berkowitz:better to that open transparency and thereby companies run
Jay Berkowitz:better?
Hakim Lakhdar:Yeah, it's a great question. I think when I'm
Hakim Lakhdar:thinking about transparency, it is exactly what you described.
Hakim Lakhdar:And I'm also thinking about in the context of vulnerability
Hakim Lakhdar:too. So transparency, yes, in terms of business operations and
Hakim Lakhdar:the inner workings of a business, but also transparency
Hakim Lakhdar:in what this client needs, what this client isn't getting, how
Hakim Lakhdar:you met your mark, how you didn't meet your mark, feedback
Hakim Lakhdar:is looped into that as well, right? I mean giving and
Hakim Lakhdar:receiving feedback. I mean I work with senior leaders around
Hakim Lakhdar:that constantly, and even reframing it as not positive or
Hakim Lakhdar:negative feedback, but reinforcing or redirecting just
Hakim Lakhdar:a conversation, but the conversation has to be had, and
Hakim Lakhdar:I think the transparency has shifted over time, because
Hakim Lakhdar:ultimately, Jay people don't want to be bottled up like that.
Hakim Lakhdar:They're holding so much in that it's incredibly unhealthy. We're
Hakim Lakhdar:not even talking about mental health and mindfulness here, but
Hakim Lakhdar:that's and there's an element of that, but it's unhealthy at the
Hakim Lakhdar:end of the day. It's ineffective, it's in it's
Hakim Lakhdar:inefficient, and it's unhealthy for people to be walking around
Hakim Lakhdar:all day trying to create a version of themselves or edit
Hakim Lakhdar:themselves all day long at work, versus just being what they are
Hakim Lakhdar:and sharing what's true for them, and doing it from a place
Hakim Lakhdar:of professionalism and politeness, of course, and
Hakim Lakhdar:respect, but doing it in a way that's really true and authentic
Hakim Lakhdar:too.
Jay Berkowitz:Yeah, I can see the the transparency is
Jay Berkowitz:authenticity is openness is Yeah, yeah, no hidden agendas,
Jay Berkowitz:no, right, yeah, right. That's definitely an evolution for the
Jay Berkowitz:better in the world. This is a question I really like to ask
Jay Berkowitz:our guests. We used to ask this in our CEO group, are there any
Jay Berkowitz:key pivots or changes you made in your career, and you've made
Jay Berkowitz:several that would be valuable lessons you come to a fork in
Jay Berkowitz:the road and you pick one or the other. What are the lessons
Jay Berkowitz:you've learned that maybe would be valuable for a young attorney
Jay Berkowitz:or a young business person looking at two paths?
Hakim Lakhdar:Yeah, I'm never banging. You know this about me,
Hakim Lakhdar:Jay, I'm never banging the drum of leave your corporate job and
Hakim Lakhdar:go do what you love and only what you love. I'm a bit more
Hakim Lakhdar:realistic than that. Of course, I want people to love what
Hakim Lakhdar:they're doing. Of course, I want people to feel connected. To
Hakim Lakhdar:feel connected and aligned with the work that they're doing. But
Hakim Lakhdar:the thing that I found throughout my career, and again,
Hakim Lakhdar:you mentioned the twist and turns. I mean, I did acting in
Hakim Lakhdar:stunts down in South Florida. I did music, music and singing and
Hakim Lakhdar:key, the keys. I lived in Las Vegas for a year. I taught
Hakim Lakhdar:kindergarten, I bartended. I mean, I did all of these
Hakim Lakhdar:different careers every point along the way, I did that self
Hakim Lakhdar:audit that you mentioned earlier, and just checked in.
Hakim Lakhdar:Okay, the day I was offered a full contract at Irish cabins to
Hakim Lakhdar:stay was the same day I was offered acceptance into a
Hakim Lakhdar:master's PhD program at Indiana University, two very different
Hakim Lakhdar:paths, and I had to ask myself, What do I want out of this life?
Hakim Lakhdar:What do I what am I hoping to achieve? Is it to have one
Hakim Lakhdar:button buttoned and no shoes as I play in the keys? It's not a
Hakim Lakhdar:bad life. Or do I want to advance my degree and
Hakim Lakhdar:potentially pursue another path and every step along the way, I
Hakim Lakhdar:did that checking with myself, and I was very, very honest with
Hakim Lakhdar:myself. And I think that honesty with oneself. I talk about this
Hakim Lakhdar:with clients in large groups when I'm giving talks, is we ask
Hakim Lakhdar:ourselves 40 to 50 questions a day. How many of those do we
Hakim Lakhdar:actually answer? Do I have to do this all day? How long is this
Hakim Lakhdar:going to take? Oh. Do. Why am I doing this? We ask these
Hakim Lakhdar:questions all day, but very rarely do we actually answer
Hakim Lakhdar:them. And if we take the time to slow down and actually answer
Hakim Lakhdar:them honestly, we might reveal some interesting answers that
Hakim Lakhdar:send us on a path that is more aligned with who we are.
Jay Berkowitz:I think we answer. Ask ourselves about 35
Jay Berkowitz:questions in a day now, and we take five of those may just put
Jay Berkowitz:them into chat GPT. That's right, yeah, thanks, chatgpt. We
Jay Berkowitz:find out a faster way. And chatgpt always gives me the
Jay Berkowitz:answer I want. So I'm like, Okay, thank you, yeah, good
Jay Berkowitz:prompts, great answers. That's right. You know, you're very
Jay Berkowitz:mature at a young age, obviously playing the rock and roll down
Jay Berkowitz:in Key West. Where did you learn that? Self audit? What is that,
Jay Berkowitz:what are the questions you ask yourself?
Hakim Lakhdar:You know, I didn't get into this when I was
Hakim Lakhdar:telling my story, because there are just so many twists and
Hakim Lakhdar:turns. But when people ask me, How long have you been coaching?
Hakim Lakhdar:My default answer these days is, I've been coaching since I was
Hakim Lakhdar:seven years old. I was the guy whose friend would get picked
Hakim Lakhdar:last for kickball, and he'd go walk off his head, hang, hang
Hakim Lakhdar:low. And I would say, You know what, I'm going to sit this game
Hakim Lakhdar:out. And we'd go walk the fence line and we talk about it. I was
Hakim Lakhdar:in middle school, and I was the only boy to join a peer
Hakim Lakhdar:counseling out of black satin jacket with my name on the back
Hakim Lakhdar:that said peer counselor. And I was counseling my peers at sixth
Hakim Lakhdar:and seventh grade and doing conflict mediation between kids
Hakim Lakhdar:who were fighting at the during lunch hour. Yeah, it's been so
Hakim Lakhdar:ingrained in who I am, but I think a lot of it came from my
Hakim Lakhdar:early years of living abroad and being in a different culture
Hakim Lakhdar:with different languages and different people and religions
Hakim Lakhdar:and smells and sounds and sights and all of that had me need to
Hakim Lakhdar:be so aware of how this was affecting me and how I was
Hakim Lakhdar:operating within it, that now it's just become an automatic
Hakim Lakhdar:thing for me, and you can plot me anywhere, and I'm going to
Hakim Lakhdar:have a good time and I'm
Jay Berkowitz:going to make them down above. Or could you
Jay Berkowitz:just sense it from an emotional standpoint?
Hakim Lakhdar:No, I think from an emotional standpoint, I was
Hakim Lakhdar:working with a phenomenal emotional emotional intelligence
Hakim Lakhdar:profiler in the UK, Lindsay cap and I took an emotional
Hakim Lakhdar:intelligence assessment, and she said, your report is scary. And
Hakim Lakhdar:I said, Why is my report scary? And she said, your emotional
Hakim Lakhdar:intelligence levels are off the chart. And that has its pros and
Hakim Lakhdar:its cons too, right? I mean, it takes management of that too,
Hakim Lakhdar:because that unmanaged or channeled in the wrong way can
Hakim Lakhdar:be really debilitating, but channeled in the right way can
Hakim Lakhdar:be extremely powerful. And something that one of my younger
Hakim Lakhdar:years being told all the time, don't be so sensitive. Don't be
Hakim Lakhdar:so sensitive in my later years, came to realize, Wow, that
Hakim Lakhdar:sensitivity is actually a superpower
Jay Berkowitz:for me. I'm just taking a sneak peek here at your
Jay Berkowitz:DISC profile. Are you familiar with disc? I am familiar with
Hakim Lakhdar:disc. I can't remember. It's been so long,
Hakim Lakhdar:it's probably 10 years ago that I did my own DISC assessment.
Jay Berkowitz:So I think an initiator, charismatic,
Jay Berkowitz:visionary and sociable, yeah, BI is dominant and influential.
Jay Berkowitz:Yeah, you're like, a leader and, you know, dominant type
Jay Berkowitz:personality, and also the life of the party.
Hakim Lakhdar:Yeah, we use an assessment, and a company I work
Hakim Lakhdar:with out of the also out of the UK, called the training rock,
Hakim Lakhdar:and it's based on Carl Young's personality types. And we use
Hakim Lakhdar:animal influencers, and it's really, actually quite fun, and
Hakim Lakhdar:I'm a lion and a dog and an ant, and lion and dog are just what
Hakim Lakhdar:you described, very dominant leadership tendencies, very
Hakim Lakhdar:focused. Can step in when necessary, and dog is also
Hakim Lakhdar:people pleasing and warm and loving and caring and all of
Hakim Lakhdar:those things, and they have their vulnerabilities. So if
Hakim Lakhdar:you're working from those strengths for each of those
Hakim Lakhdar:animals, fantastic. If you're working for their
Hakim Lakhdar:vulnerabilities from each of those animals, you're going to
Hakim Lakhdar:be a nightmare. So it's really about channeling that and being
Hakim Lakhdar:aware of what you default to. And that's the self audit,
Hakim Lakhdar:that's the self awareness, that's the self leadership
Hakim Lakhdar:piece.
Jay Berkowitz:There's a book called taking flight, and they
Jay Berkowitz:describe all the disc profiles as birds. So the D is, is an
Jay Berkowitz:eagle, you know, scoring above, looking down, dominant
Jay Berkowitz:leadership. The I is the parrot, typically a sales personality,
Jay Berkowitz:life of the party. And that's supportive. Is the Dove, which
Jay Berkowitz:is be closest to the dog. And then the wise owl is the C, the
Jay Berkowitz:numbers person typically like that, pas and lawyers. Most of
Jay Berkowitz:the lawyers I talk to are CDs, so they're dominant, because
Jay Berkowitz:most of the guys I'm speaking to are business owners, yeah, and
Jay Berkowitz:probably the business manager of the firm. If I'm talking to the
Jay Berkowitz:trial attorney, they're the CS, you know, they're the very
Jay Berkowitz:detail oriented, like CP, lawyers, almost Yeah. Makes
Jay Berkowitz:sense. Interesting. What's your why? I'm sure you're familiar
Jay Berkowitz:with the number one TED talk of all time. Simon Sinek, yeah,
Jay Berkowitz:people aren't go watch it. It's the number one of all time. What
Jay Berkowitz:gets you up in the morning? What makes your heart beat faster?
Hakim Lakhdar:I'll answer it in two ways. So my why for doing
Hakim Lakhdar:what I do is. Is very simple. I don't like to see people unhappy
Hakim Lakhdar:at work. We spend so much of our days, so much of our lives at
Hakim Lakhdar:work, either in the office or with our peers online or our
Hakim Lakhdar:colleagues online, and to see people struggle through their
Hakim Lakhdar:work day, anxious, worried, stressed, burnt out,
Hakim Lakhdar:overwhelmed, whatever it might be, it genuinely pains me to see
Hakim Lakhdar:that. And typically, what I see is those people are operating
Hakim Lakhdar:that way because there's a problem at the top. It usually
Hakim Lakhdar:tracks back to poor leadership. So for me, rather than going
Hakim Lakhdar:around every office and getting giving everybody a hug, I'm
Hakim Lakhdar:going right to the leaders and saying, let's get you to a
Hakim Lakhdar:place. And this is my other why, where you can love your
Hakim Lakhdar:leadership. I want to see you loving your leadership. It's not
Hakim Lakhdar:going to be all day every day, I know that, but I want you to
Hakim Lakhdar:feel so calm and so confident in the way that you lead, because
Hakim Lakhdar:it's congruent, because it's authentic, because it's aligned
Hakim Lakhdar:with who you are, that the people that you then lead or
Hakim Lakhdar:that you interact with, feel that too, and that, for me, is
Hakim Lakhdar:how I'm making my difference in the
Jay Berkowitz:world. I love that line, loving your
Jay Berkowitz:leadership. I think that's you, and we talked a little bit about
Jay Berkowitz:that, and hopefully, thank you, part of your personal brand
Jay Berkowitz:going forward. So this is the time in the 10 golden rules
Jay Berkowitz:podcast. We've been doing this for 15 or 16 years, where we ask
Jay Berkowitz:you the quick one line answers, all right, so the first one,
Jay Berkowitz:what are any apps or techniques you use for personal
Jay Berkowitz:productivity?
Hakim Lakhdar:So I realize lawyers have a little bit more
Hakim Lakhdar:of a challenge with this in terms of privacy, but the one
Hakim Lakhdar:that I use that has been a game changer for me is the AI note
Hakim Lakhdar:takers. So I personally use fathom, and that has been so
Hakim Lakhdar:beneficial to me, because one, I have a transcript of our
Hakim Lakhdar:conversation, versus me going off screen, constantly writing
Hakim Lakhdar:notes off to the side, I can stay very focused, very present.
Hakim Lakhdar:And I love that, because if I need to go back and refer to
Hakim Lakhdar:something, I can just go back to the transcript. So that has been
Hakim Lakhdar:fantastic for me. And then any other utilization of AI. I use
Hakim Lakhdar:AI throughout my coaching. My clients know that it's not in
Hakim Lakhdar:place of the coaching. It's really more of an organizational
Hakim Lakhdar:tool for me. So I've got my folders in chat GPT. I keep
Hakim Lakhdar:things quite organized in there, and it's a great resource so
Hakim Lakhdar:that I can maximize my time, because, as I mentioned, I'm a
Hakim Lakhdar:one man show.
Jay Berkowitz:I mentioned that, or you mentioned fathom. I love
Jay Berkowitz:fathom, recording us on Fathom right now. And what it does is
Jay Berkowitz:it records the video and audio. It transcribes the video and
Jay Berkowitz:audio. It creates a summary of the call. It creates a summary
Jay Berkowitz:of next steps. Who committed to do what you can download the
Jay Berkowitz:transcript. I've used it actually a lot of times,
Jay Berkowitz:downloading the transcripts into advanced gpts. Yes, I've used it
Jay Berkowitz:to compare candidates for jobs. For sure, I've we're using it
Jay Berkowitz:for sales coaching. So we download the sales calls and
Jay Berkowitz:look at our sales calls with our sales team. Love it, so Fathom
Jay Berkowitz:is a great one. I love it, yeah, all the other kinds of AIS too,
Jay Berkowitz:for sure. Yeah. Do you have a person? Well, Hakeem looks
Jay Berkowitz:great. Okay, dude's getting super fit. So I know you do, but
Jay Berkowitz:share with us your personal wellness and fitness routine.
Jay Berkowitz:Yeah?
Hakim Lakhdar:So when I first started coaching, it took me a
Hakim Lakhdar:while to shake off the sort of conditioning that I had I had
Hakim Lakhdar:from years and years of w2 nine to five work. So I treated
Hakim Lakhdar:myself like an employee, and I was not a great boss to myself.
Hakim Lakhdar:So I overworked myself. I think you may know that in one of my
Hakim Lakhdar:earlier years, I gave myself pneumonia for two months, and I
Hakim Lakhdar:was in the hospital twice because I had just burnt myself
Hakim Lakhdar:out trying to be 100% dad, 100% husband, 100% coach, 100%
Hakim Lakhdar:business owner, son, brother, all of those things. And the
Hakim Lakhdar:reality was I needed to create some time for myself so I could
Hakim Lakhdar:be my best self. And it's the old adage of put your mask on
Hakim Lakhdar:before you put the mask on to the person next to you. And I
Hakim Lakhdar:wasn't adhering to that. So I have been very conscious of that
Hakim Lakhdar:in recent years, where I create time for myself in the morning
Hakim Lakhdar:to journal. I create time for myself to set my intentions for
Hakim Lakhdar:the day. I take time where I go for a nice, long walk with a
Hakim Lakhdar:weighted vest every morning and just sort of reflect on how I'm
Hakim Lakhdar:feeling in my body and what I want to achieve with the day
Hakim Lakhdar:today, and how excited I am to see certain clients, and what's
Hakim Lakhdar:ahead for the week, and how I'm going to show up in my family,
Hakim Lakhdar:and very being very clear and very intentional about those
Hakim Lakhdar:things. So that's kind of my process. Is just creating space,
Hakim Lakhdar:because it's something that I feel we so often neglect, is
Hakim Lakhdar:finding that time and space to just do that self audit, to do
Hakim Lakhdar:that check in, to set intentions. So creating more of
Hakim Lakhdar:that in my day has been really helpful.
Jay Berkowitz:By the way, when you take your talents to South
Jay Berkowitz:Beach, Hakeem and I are both in South Florida, you're definitely
Jay Berkowitz:getting a workout when you're walking in the summer right now.
Jay Berkowitz:That's right, yeah. What is the. Behind the weighted vests. I've
Jay Berkowitz:been seeing them a lot lately.
Hakim Lakhdar:Yeah, rucking with a rucksack has been around
Hakim Lakhdar:for decades, and that, I think that comes out of a lot of the
Hakim Lakhdar:military fitness routines and having a big rucksack and
Hakim Lakhdar:carrying 4060, 80 pounds on your back. And now people are seeing
Hakim Lakhdar:the benefits of adding a little extra weight to your walk, so
Hakim Lakhdar:that your walk is not only a brisk walk and an enjoyable,
Hakim Lakhdar:relaxing walk, but it also adds a little bit of resistance to
Hakim Lakhdar:whatever length or distance you choose to walk. So it's a nice
Hakim Lakhdar:way just to kind of dial it up a little
Jay Berkowitz:bit. I wondered if there was a mental aspect to
Jay Berkowitz:it. I remember my trainer in the gym gave me a 25 pound weight
Jay Berkowitz:and had me do a couple exercises, and he said, Wouldn't
Jay Berkowitz:it feel great if you could do it 25 pounds lighter, if you could
Jay Berkowitz:play sports, 25 pounds lighter? And I got the message right.
Jay Berkowitz:These are supposed to be the quick one liners I'm slowing you
Jay Berkowitz:down. Best sure business books.
Hakim Lakhdar:Best business books. So it's interesting,
Hakim Lakhdar:there's love money. Money loves you is one that is fantastic,
Hakim Lakhdar:the law of divine compensation. As you'll notice, there's a
Hakim Lakhdar:little bit of a trend here. So as I started my business, one of
Hakim Lakhdar:the things that I really wanted to focus in on was my
Hakim Lakhdar:relationship to money. It's very easy when you're getting a
Hakim Lakhdar:paycheck and you know to the penny what it's going to be
Hakim Lakhdar:every two weeks or every month as you become an entrepreneur,
Hakim Lakhdar:it's eat, what you kill, and how you manage money, how you relate
Hakim Lakhdar:to money, how you think about the exchange of money as value
Hakim Lakhdar:with your clients, was very important to me. So I've spent a
Hakim Lakhdar:lot of time actually focused on those books. And that is often
Hakim Lakhdar:something I think that gets overlooked as we build
Hakim Lakhdar:businesses, or we build book of businesses or clients. So that's
Hakim Lakhdar:those are my two
Jay Berkowitz:next up. You've got a little bit of time on your
Jay Berkowitz:calendar, maybe before your next meeting, and a blog, a podcast,
Jay Berkowitz:a YouTube comes across your feed. Which one that you
Jay Berkowitz:subscribe to, you stop everything and listen to or read
Hakim Lakhdar:10 golden rules? Of course,
Jay Berkowitz:yay. Yeah, that is the right answer for a few
Jay Berkowitz:any future guests.
Hakim Lakhdar:I figured I was it was getting teed up perfectly
Hakim Lakhdar:for me. I couldn't, I couldn't swing and miss on that. I really
Hakim Lakhdar:enjoy listening to books. So if I'm if I'm walking, I tend to
Hakim Lakhdar:listen to audio books, if I'm not sitting down somewhere
Hakim Lakhdar:reading them. Podcasts are often podcasts that get referred to
Hakim Lakhdar:me, which I love. I mean, anyone who refers a podcast or says, Oh
Hakim Lakhdar:my gosh, this episode, you would love this. I'll listen in. I
Hakim Lakhdar:don't have any go to podcast. There's coaches rising, which is
Hakim Lakhdar:a great one. There's a living to your brilliance, which is one
Hakim Lakhdar:out of the UK that a friend of mine, Al Kenny does with Mark
Hakim Lakhdar:bilby, and that's a fantastic podcast a living to your
Hakim Lakhdar:brilliance. And any ones that are are thought provoking for
Hakim Lakhdar:me, and less about here the top 10 ninja hacks to figuring out
Hakim Lakhdar:how to be a better you. I don't subscribe to those as much. I'm
Hakim Lakhdar:much more interested in things that make you go, Hmm, kind of
Hakim Lakhdar:thing.
Jay Berkowitz:So who's your NFL or sports team?
Hakim Lakhdar:Yeah, grew up in South Florida. Sadly, I'm a
Hakim Lakhdar:Dolphins fan, which is suffering for a couple years, which is
Hakim Lakhdar:painful all around I am also a dire Die Hard Seminoles fan,
Hakim Lakhdar:having gone to Florida State and my freshman year we went. Any
Hakim Lakhdar:hope for this year? I have no idea where we are right now is
Hakim Lakhdar:also painful, so I'm getting it from all angles here, but those
Hakim Lakhdar:are my two teams.
Jay Berkowitz:What's a great introduction for you? Business
Jay Berkowitz:wise, it's
Hakim Lakhdar:interesting, because I think that a lot of
Hakim Lakhdar:times people struggle with making introductions to coaches,
Hakim Lakhdar:because it's akin to telling someone you need therapy, and
Hakim Lakhdar:people shy away from that. But what I encourage people, when
Hakim Lakhdar:they're making the referrals, to see it as a gift, and I really
Hakim Lakhdar:mean that, to see it as you are fantastic. You know, in the sort
Hakim Lakhdar:of spirit of Jim Collins, you are good. I want to see you be
Hakim Lakhdar:great. This is the guy that's going to make you great. This is
Hakim Lakhdar:a guy that, together, you guys, can get to a place where you are
Hakim Lakhdar:loving your leadership, you are feeling like you're great at
Hakim Lakhdar:what you do, and the results then show for it. So I think
Hakim Lakhdar:it's really anybody business owner, senior professional,
Hakim Lakhdar:aspiring leader, anybody who's committed to putting in the
Hakim Lakhdar:work, anybody who sees an opportunity to level up, anyone
Hakim Lakhdar:who's wildly successful but feels like there's something
Hakim Lakhdar:missing and they're curious to see what it is that they're not
Hakim Lakhdar:seeing. I have that unique perspective not being their
Hakim Lakhdar:spouse or their leadership team member or their business
Hakim Lakhdar:partner, I'm their champion. And to be in that conversation and
Hakim Lakhdar:to, you know, reveal some of those things that they may not
Hakim Lakhdar:see or they choose and not to look at, perhaps over time, are
Hakim Lakhdar:always really fruitful conversations.
Jay Berkowitz:And if you think Hakeem is a fit for you or
Jay Berkowitz:someone you know, where can we get in touch?
Hakim Lakhdar:View. You can find me on LinkedIn. I'm pretty
Hakim Lakhdar:active on LinkedIn. Hakeem a lachdar. I check my messages
Hakim Lakhdar:regularly. I respond to most comments that I see on posts.
Hakim Lakhdar:You can also reach out to me via my website, locked our
Hakim Lakhdar:coaching.com or, of course, via email. Hakeem at locked our
Hakim Lakhdar:coaching.com
Jay Berkowitz:that's l, a, k, H, D, A R, thank you, H D, A R,
Jay Berkowitz:that's right, and links in the show notes, of course, down
Jay Berkowitz:below in YouTube, wherever you're watching or listening to
Jay Berkowitz:this. Hakeem, this was lots of fun, as always, learned and was
Jay Berkowitz:entertained and enjoyed our time together. Thank you.
Hakim Lakhdar:Thank you, Jay. I love being in conversation with
Hakim Lakhdar:you, and I'm I'm excited to see what you continue to create
Hakim Lakhdar:through this podcast and the important work that you do. So
Hakim Lakhdar:keep it up, brother.
Jay Berkowitz:Thank you, my friend.