Mark Beale, a distinguished hypnotherapist and expert in past life regression, discusses the profound connections between our current lives and those we have led previously. We talk about the compelling notion that many individuals harbor feelings of having experienced life before, often accompanied by unresolved wounds from those past existences. Through the technique of past life regression, Mark guides patients in uncovering the origins of these feelings, enabling them to confront and heal lingering emotional scars. As we explore the fascinating realm of reincarnation, we also discuss the impact of past life experiences on our present behaviors and choices, emphasizing the importance of understanding one’s narrative to achieve personal growth. Join us as we navigate the intricate tapestry of our histories, revealing how the echoes of the past continue to shape our present and future. This is part one of two parts.

Links referenced in this episode:

• booking@allisondubois.com
• allisondubois.com
• pastlifeawakeninginstitute.com

Welcome to the Dead Life.

Here's world renowned medium Alison Dubois.

Welcome to the Dead Life.

Today my guest is Mark Beale, a hypnotherapist and expert in past life regression.

Mark hosts a podcast called the Past Life Awakening and he's the author of the book Past Life Awakening.

Many people feel as though they've been here before.

They often vibe with a particular point in time and can carry wounds brought in from past lives.

Hypnotherapists can take their patients back in time through past life regression to discover why they feel like they've been here before and who they were.

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Well, Mark, welcome to the show.

Thank you for being here.

Thank you, Alison.

Lovely to be here.

Well, it's great having you.

So you have a background in economics, was that correct?

You got your bachelor's in economics.

That's right.

What made you want to be a hypnotherapist?

Well, I guess as I do this awakening path, you're awakening to your healer's path, but then you have to awake from a conventional path.

So you're right.

I was in a.

So I'd watch movies like Wall street and think, that looks cool.

Yeah.

So I got an economics degree.

You know, I worked in trading rooms in London, Hong Kong and Sydney.

But then I soon realized it's not that cool.

And, and it's not for me in the long term anyway.

It gave me good opportunities and I even went back and thought, what was I thinking getting into this profession?

So I went back and watched Wall street and the lead character says, I don't really care about this job.

All I want is to make enough money so I can ride my motorcycle across China for a year.

And I thought that was the point of that movie.

So I quit my job and rode a motorcycle across India for a year.

And eventually I made it to stayed in Asia for 25 years, became a hypnotherapist, was working in a fancy wellness resort in Thailand, much like the White Lotus, where Oliver Stone, the director of Wall Street Regularly says.

And I'd seen him being interviewed saying, people come up to me and say, I work in Wall street because of your movie.

And he thinks, well, you didn't understand the movie.

And I thought, well, I want to be the one guy who says, I saw Wall street and it inspired me to quit economics and to ride a motorcycle to get here.

For me, the meaning of that story is that we can all be hypnotized by a surface level perception of narratives that we receive from culture.

And when we want to understand our past lives, the first thing to do is to understand this life.

Because often we don't even really understand the life or moment that we're in.

And so for me, past life regression is something I found.

And it's really about looking at narratives and not just saying, like, who was I?

Or what did I do?

It's what were the deep, real spiritual themes in that work of art or the lessons that we're wanting to learn from it?

So, yeah, I did start on economics, but I quickly graduated.

So I ended up writing at 25 years old to a meditation retreat where my sort of awakening really began.

I've noticed that in astrology, I have a friend, Tom McMullen, that comes on and in charts he can see sort of some of the past life wounds that we bring into this lifetime.

I would imagine that some of the work that you do has to do with some of those wounds.

Why some people can't walk into a church and then find out it's because they were persecuted in a past life life and it was connected to the church, or that you have a fear of being killed because you've been killed before or you want to have children and you have a.

A need, like a great need to have children because in a.

Maybe in a past life they were taken from you.

So you're always worried about the ones you have more so than even other parents.

So I find that a lot of the wounds seem to come in from somewhere.

And have you ever looked at children with past lives?

In what sense do you mean looking at children?

So I've.

I saw a show called Ghost Inside My Child on Prime Video, and it was just so fascinating to see how adamant they were that they had lived before that their wife's name was sad era that they had two kids and three cats.

And they're very specific.

So have you ever encountered anything along those lines?

Yeah, there's a lot of research done by that.

There's a guy called Dr.

Ian Stevenson, and he dedicated his whole life to Studying children who report their past lives.

So he's mainly a researcher.

So I typically won't do past life regression for children.

But the reason I ask is because when people regress, we regress to their childhood.

And so I only work with children in the fact that they're feeling vividly themselves.

And when you're talking about wounds, I'd like to come back to that, because that's true.

And I've got some case studies that really illustrate that.

So, yes, that's a huge part of what we do.

But part of the way that I do it is before I get to the wounds, I regress people to the abilities that they have and the healing ability they have.

And so what that often means is that you find their inner child's wounds, but you find the inner child's strengths.

And so that's something that I find where you take people back and you can see, for example, with me, I thought I was some economics guy, but when I did a regression, I found out that I was 10 years old doing hypnosis, and I had that as a memory.

And I thought, that can't be right.

Maybe I'm making it up.

So I rang my mother and said, did I hypnotize you when I was 10?

And she said, yes, I remember it.

And I thought, really, I thought I was making it up.

So sort of that's my child part, where there was inner part of me that did have that ability.

And so then we have this attraction to healing modalities.

But then, of course, as children, we may have these abilities and they come up in this life, but then we get punished for them.

We forget them, we repress them, we suppress them, and then that child grows into an adult and thinks they should work on Wall street, which is ridiculous, And.

And they should do something else.

And so is that something I was going to ask?

Well, you found your abilities early, but did you.

And you had to battle the system, going to universities and being tested.

But how was it for you as a child afterwards?

Were you able to speak openly about it or was that suppressed in some way?

For me, in childhood, yeah, it was surprise.

Well, I spoke about it openly, but I was quickly deflected.

The time in which I was a child was late 70s, early 80s.

And they didn't really know what to do with kids who talked about things like ghosts and the other side, I didn't even call them ghosts.

I just saw them as people.

The people that would be, you know, like my great grandfather standing at the foot of my bed.

And that's why I have a chapter in one of my books called Kindergarten Mediums, because seems between 4 and 6, that kids are able to really communicate what they understand to be true and what they're seeing.

And you start seeing that come out where adults can make some sense of it.

But back then, they really didn't.

And so I related to a lot of Disney movies and movies that depicted children seeing the other side.

And to me, that made sense.

I saw Somewhere in Time.

I had Stephen Simon on my show who directed Somewhere in Time.

It was his movie.

And at the end of the movie, I looked at my dad and I said, that makes sense.

When I saw Jane Seymour and Christopher Reeve's character together on the other side after they died, I knew that that's the way it was.

I felt it, and it was true.

And that's just.

That was how I saw the world.

I didn't really understand why people were afraid of spirits in childhood, but my mom quickly shut me down.

When I was about six, I saw my great grandfather standing at the foot of my bed.

And it was after his funeral and we had come home that day, my mom put me to bed, and he looked at me and he said, tell your mom I'm not in pain anymore, and I'm still with her.

So I got out of bed and I went in her room.

I thought she'd be really happy that he was back.

And she told me to go back to bed.

And she shut me down really quickly.

And after that, I didn't want to share anything that I saw because I didn't want to disappoint my mother.

So.

Yeah, that interesting.

So I've got a case study, if I could tell you, and it's kind of along those lines, and it answers that question about, you know, murders and chaos and pain.

So it reminds me of a client of mine.

She's actually a case study in the book Past Life Awakening.

And she's a consulting psychologist.

So she has a conventional background, but in healing.

And she was attracted to healing, spiritual healing, but also had an aversion to it.

And so.

And she had.

She was worried about what her colleagues would think if she wanted to start practicing past life regression.

And she also had.

And then people come to me.

They've got, like, a laundry list of issues.

She was like, and also, why am I connected to Buddhist teachers?

Why have I got inflammations in my knee?

What am I supposed to be doing with my life?

And so we regressed her first to this life.

And she recalled being sort of six, seven years old with psychic abilities.

And she realized, oh, my cousin is in danger.

And so she thought, I'm going to use this ability.

And she told her grandmother to try and help save her cousin.

And the grandmother looked at her and slapped her in the face and said, don't talk bad about your cousin.

And a few years later, the cousin got into worse and worse company, became a missing person, and no one's seen her for 10 years.

So the problem was her vision was right.

But what she learned was squash your psychic ability.

And you're attracted to spirit, to this psychic ability, because you, you've got an ability and you feel drawn to it, but you also feel repulsed by it because it's caused you pain in the past.

Yes.

And so I think that's something a lot of people listening can relate to.

I think so.

So that's something that my client experienced.

But then there's a past life component to it, as we.

Because oftentimes there's a this life cause.

And you may think, well, that answers the question.

But then a past life cause came in.

So if I can tell a bit of that story.

So she was in that life.

So she felt a bit abandoned and left from her family.

And so she went on, and 25 years later, she's a teacher helping the little students in the monastery.

And so you can have this feel of, you know, is what I'm experiencing real?

Am I making it up?

Especially if you've just got pictures or fuzzy pictures.

But what I want to do is get people to go to root emotions, and so that way they can feel that it's real.

And if you go to something really emotional, then you can heal it.

And so as I was saying these kind of words to encourage her, she started breathing harder.

And she was like, there's some chaos approaching.

She sort of, you know, this attraction to, I came here to heal this, but I sort of don't want to face it.

So I just encourage it, go to it, so you can go through it and beyond it.

And as I'm saying that, she just screams.

She goes, my students, she starts sobbing.

I say, what's happening?

She calms down a little bit, but is still crying, saying, I can't save them.

My students are being attacked, they're being killed.

And we just keep playing it forward.

And she recovers her calm so it's traumatic, but it's pretty manageable.

And we play it forward and we find out that she was able to escape and make it to India, but she had this trauma to deal with.

So she sat in meditation for a long time processing it.

In fact, she felt sat so long that she ended up injuring her knees.

But I asked what was the result of the meditation.

She goes, I was teaching impermanence, but I didn't really fully realize it.

And I was faced my emotions of anger and bitterness.

And I came to the conclusion things just happen.

It just is.

These people killed my student, but they're playing a role.

Nothing's permanent.

I can forgive them.

And so it's not something I say to somebody, oh, everything's transcendent.

Don't worry about it.

But I guide them into very difficult things that are objectively bad, but then they're able to come up with some of these transcendent solutions.

And then the next thing that I do is I don't just stop there.

I say, well, can we go to the end of a lifetime?

Take me to the day you died and take me to the process of leaving your body, and what do you see?

So she says, I got quite old.

I continue teaching, and as I die, I float out of my body like steam, and I can look down on my body.

And so people just do this all the time.

They are able to spend days or weeks observing how people are grieving, visiting them, watching her funeral, feeling that they're all her students.

She got new students, and they were able to send their love, respect and gratitude for her.

And so then often say, well, you can look down and view all that if you're ready.

Can you tell?

Turn around and look up.

They say, there's a light.

I'm drawn towards it.

And as I'm saying, well, what happens if you move towards it?

Again she starts crying, but this time it's tears of joy.

She says.

I say, what's happening?

She's like, I'm seeing the students that I lost.

And now with tears of joy, she laughs.

She says, they're saying, you passed the test.

It was resilience and persistence.

You didn't give in to anger and bitterness.

You kept learning and healing and teaching.

And she says, well, now I know that something can seem very bad or a failure, but with some perspective, everything can help teach us a wisdom and lesson.

And now that I know this, I can help people with that knowledge, and I can help people with this kind of regression.

So after the session, she went ahead and now she gave past life regression sessions.

Her psychology colleagues that she was worried about gave her referrals.

Her knees mysteriously got better.

And if you're wondering, are you making this up?

This one I actually have on video.

It's on my YouTube channel.

It's part of a course, Past Life Regression Demonstrator.

And I interviewed her about it on my podcast.

So I've got some receipts for that.

So you teach people how to do this as well?

Yeah, yeah, I do.

So I find that it's one thing to learn, and I taught in person.

And there's a difference between getting a certificate, going through a process, understanding what to do, but then, like, the first six months of really working with real people.

So I.

I mentor people through their first 30 real sessions with people.

And half of those people have, you know, a pretty solid healing background, like psychology.

Half of the people have had some pretty transcendent spiritual experiences.

And both of those types of people are able to.

To do pretty, pretty well.

Although it does help if they've got a good karmic connection and some previous healing experience.

It's interesting to me.

You remind me of a friend of mine, Diane Goldner.

She was a journalist, like New York hardcore journalist back in the day, and she wrote a story on healers.

And so she had to study the healers, and she kind of thought it was bunk, you know, in the beginning, where she kind of went in thinking she was smarter than everyone else, as most skeptics do.

And.

And what she found is that she was a healer sort of waiting to come out.

And she's been doing it now for years.

And she's very, very good at being a lightworker and being a healer.

But it's interesting because I think she would have been afraid in those moments when she was making the leap from journalist to healer, what people would think of her, the way she thought of those people before she turned the corner, you know, before she.

When she was just a hardcore journalist, she would have viewed them as.

As somehow.

I don't know if it's lesser than her or from a different planet than she is, but probably didn't want to be looked at through her own eyes, you know, the way she looked at them then and now she's one of them.

So it is interesting to see that same thing in your clients as well, as I'm sure you probably experienced maybe a little of trepidation over it, maybe even yourself of, can I be more of a pioneer in this?

Whose footsteps am I following in?

What mark am I Gonna leave.

And for me, I got a degree in political science and history and I was going, I took my LSATs and I was going to law school.

And for me to give that up to do this, I also was one of those people who thought because I'd seen how people viewed spiritualists, that I would then be persecuted and looked at in that same light was a very difficult decision for me to make in giving up what is considered a profession that is very highly academic to be and be viewed with some level of respect as an academic and then be questioned for everything I do as a spiritualist, as is it true?

And so that's why I went to the laboratories in the university, because I needed to understand how I was doing what I was doing.

I'm also married to a scientist.

He's, he's an astrophysicist and he's very supportive.

At the time though, it was a little scary for both of us to go down the path that is the one that most people would turn away from and say, no, I'm going to do the safe thing.

I'm to be a lawyer.

Absolutely, yeah, yeah.

I mean I did have the same thing.

My, I found meditation when I was 25, but it was only 32 that I became a full time professional.

Past life regression therapist.

Took eight years to sort of integrate it.

And a big part of it for me was kind of the company you keep.

So if there are people you look up to and respect and they may look down on you, then that's an issue that you have to go through.

You lose a lot of your own intellect.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

And you've got, even if it's not somebody else, it's the own inner voice that you have taking on sort of the things that they would say and you sort of beat yourself up from it.

And so for me, when I was initially exploring hypnosis and regression on a meditation retreat, they were talking about now I went there and it felt very comfortable and it felt like I had a lot of half form thoughts in my head that I hadn't been able to express.

And as I studied those wisdom traditions, I realized they were being able to complete it and put it into words that I really thought this is what I've been trying to think and say my whole life.

But then they talked about past lives and reincarnation and enlightenment and I thought, well, this is a step too far, come on.

And they're right about a lot of stuff, that maybe they're making this stuff up.

So I had all these intellectual sort of concepts on my head that were mainly borrowed sort of knowledge, not really wisdom.

And while I'm going through this whole process, they say we're going to take a half day off from the meditation retreat, and we're going on a field trip, and we're going to have an audience with the Dalai Lama.

So next thing I know, I'm standing in line, and there he is, and he's flesh and blood, but he's also has 13 documented past lives as a spiritual leader.

And a lot of people see him as a living, enlightened being.

And so a lot of people are bowing and can't look him in the eye.

And I just stuck out my hand.

Hello, how you doing?

Firm handshake, just like.

Exactly.

And he just looks at me and just laughs at me.

And so I smile, and then it's over.

They kick me out at somebody else's turn.

And I'm walking away just, like, laughing at myself like, what a goose.

And I'm smiling, then I can't stop smiling.

And so I'm like.

I was trying to intellectually figure out, you know, up high, slides real.

Could this be possible?

But I felt his spiritual energy and emotion, and it transcended my analytical mind.

And that just sort of stopped thinking a bit.

And I felt.

I still don't know the answer, but I feel that an embodied, spiritual, transcendent presence as possible.

And it's worthwhile continuing to explore this and keep the company of these kind of wise people who think it's okay.

And I don't necessarily have to get drawn back to that society where they say it's not.

And so that's partly how, you know, now that I live, if I live in Asia for 25 years, as I have, you can be working with, like, CEOs of software companies, and you mentioned past lives.

And they'll.

They'll talk all day about code, but then they can also launch into a very detailed spiritual philosophy conversation with you.

So it is sort of part of that cultural conditioning.

And being here, I've sort of got used to it sort of being more acceptable.

It is interesting when you travel.

I've been to Japan three times to film documentaries because I wanted to see if I could read people without understanding the language.

And it's one of those places that when you come back from Japan, you realize how uptight we are in the US and how scattered the energy is here because people are pulling at different belief systems constantly.

It's much more stressful here than being in Japan.

Which everything was very organized and polite in culture and spiritual.

They have the altars for their ancestors that have passed that they put food out for and flowers for, and they honor them.

And I think that should be normalized in Western culture.

It's very healthy to retain and maintain that connection with our loved ones because they do stay in our lives and guide us.

And to me, it almost seems absurd for people to think that it doesn't happen, you know, because I have seen it so many times manifest in readings and in my.

In testing.

But I don't judge those people, you know, for not believing.

So it's sort of.

It's interesting how one culture can really have a very even flowing energy and other cultures can feel.

Feel highly stressful.

So people should be aware of that.

And I think people should travel for that reason, just so they could sense the difference in environment.

Yeah, yeah.

It's interesting.

In past life regression, of course, you often find yourself being incarnated in different countries.

So even if you do travel, there are so many countries you could go to, but why go to that country?

So even for me, you know, I went to India.

I went to a lot of countries, actually, but I ended up keeping on, keeping on going back to India.

And you think, well, why?

The west that we live in is pretty great and India is pretty chaotic.

Yeah.

And doesn't make a lot of sense.

Right.

But the fact is, I sort of consider it to be kind of the worst country in the world, but also the best because it's got such.

Those dualities are so challenging that it forces you to transcend them.

But it's also, out of all those countries, why choose that one?

And so what I often find is that people feel for some reason, connected to a certain country and they don't know why.

And you go back to a past life, and there they were.

And so for me, I had that experience.

I remembered being in a past life in India as a British person, as a doctor, but feeling conflicted about my practice there, not wanting to do that kind of healing and wanting to sort of go a little bit native.

I could see being a little Panama Jack looking.

I could see that.

Okay.

You know, and.

And so I also remembered being an Indian.

And so I feel that I've had a number of past lives in India.

And I also remembered, you know, I said I was 10 years old and I was being a hypnotist, but I had another past life that was influential because I was thinking, well, if I'm connected to India, does that mean I Should, you know, get a job as a Tibetan Buddhist.

But I'm not really born as a Tibetan.

So you know, what, what am I really?

And I had a past life regression where I saw myself in Egypt and I felt this is three, three and a half thousand years ago or more.

I felt it's dark, but I'm in a temple and I'm kind of a priestly kind of energy and I'm whispering to someone who's laying out on a marble slab.

But it looks like they're kind of in hypnosis and I sense I'm guiding them through a guided journey to a spirit realm and past lives.

And I'm thinking, am I in a past life aggression, Remembering being a past life regression therapist in a past life.

And you know, when you think about it, it sounds kind of ridiculous.

And I thought I must be making this up, but this time I couldn't call my mother to check out if it was real or not.

Right, right, right.

But, but it was the same kind of feeling.

But again, in past life regression you can't really prove it but.

And you don't know how it works exactly or why it works, but what matters is that it works and it has a positive effect on your life.

So yeah, sort of that question, what is a 25 year old Western guy not into healing at all, goes to India, has some spiritual awakenings and makes up some stories like this, but then the receipts are there and that how could I live comfortably in India, which is an odd country but I just loved it and I lived happily there and then did become a past life therapist and did that happily for 20 years.

And so there's a part where sort of the proof is in the pudding.

Right.

You know, and it doesn't make sense, but there was a follow through there.

So for me that means past life regression isn't about going back to the past, getting hung up on who you were.

Right.

It's about being more present with who you really are in the moment.

Right.

Knowing what your authentic self is.

And so that way you can find and follow your highest purpose and working.

Through maybe even some of the wounds that you brought in and making sense of it so that you can live more easily.

I have actually encountered some people who want to know about their past lives because they're unhappy with this life and they want to lose themselves and that they mattered at some point in time.

And that's so dangerous because they're in the now and they need to be focusing on if I'm not happy with My life.

What can I do to change that in the now rather than getting caught up in that past life hoping that they were somebody that mattered.

Yeah, exactly.

So I don't really see that very much.

People that approach me, you know, it's really like I'm just in a lot of pain at the moment and I've sort of tried everything and I'm desperate and I'll try something ridiculous like this.

And so by the by, by the time I get that.

And so, I mean, if people want.

Yeah, so it's often so this, you know what it is, there is some pain there and they're sort of grasping and looking for a tool.

And if they expect that they're going to get some sort of ego gratification from it, they're probably not.

But if, if I were to talk to somebody like that, I'd probably say, you know, you've got an idea that this may connect with you.

So past life regression also isn't for everybody.

You know, some people have a karmic connection, some don't, and there may just be other modalities.

So sometimes people approach me and I say, there's a better way for you to do it or another modality that's better suited.

But if I would talk to someone like that may find out, you know, this is maybe what you expect because people also bring a presenting issue which is different to a real issue.

So no matter who I'm talking to, they think this is what I think the problem is and this is what I think the solution is.

Then we have to talk through with them to find out, well, this is probably the actual problem and this is probably the actual solution.

And if you agree to go forward on that basis, we can do it.

And people tend to be able to figure that out.

I think it's very fascinating as well, in spirituality, I've come to know, and I'm sure you have as well.

People used to view spirituality as something that maybe gullible people fell for or the uneducated or whatever they want to say.

Because I don't actually think education has anything to do with a person's worth.

But people weigh it that way in this day.

And I get a lot of very educated people, a lot of psychologists, a lot of judges, a lot of lawyers and professionals.

And I think people underestimate how mainstream what we do has become in people's lives and that it's actually healthy to look for spiritual reasoning in physical pains as well as issues with loss.

And I think we're starting to get there.

It's been encouraging to see the progress there in the last 20 years.

Exactly right.

And for hypnosis, hypnotherapy, past lives, it is positively correlated to intelligence.

The more intelligent you are, the better you are at it.

And if anything, I have to filter out if there would be a bottom 10% of the intelligence.

It's like it's really the most intelligent people that are the most capable and that I tend work with them that come.

Right.

So, yeah, absolutely.

And that's why it's.

I think it's important talking about this, so we normalize it.

So, I mean, if they're the partner in a law firm, they don't want to go on a podcast and talk about it.

But most of my clients are rarely at that level that, you know, are well educated and intelligent and all that stuff.

I.

I believe.

Yeah.

And so.

And I think it's useful to tell these stories.

So it does sort of normalize it.

Yeah.

Where.

Yeah.

And, yeah, I think we've.

We've made a lot of progress in the last 20 years that I've been doing it in particular.

So people would think hypnotherapy is, you know, fears and phobias, maybe habits.

But even in the early days, people would come and say, oh, I thought this was just pretty basic, but I'm going to book for a whole different issue because I realize it's much more sophisticated.

And these days, people don't even start off with that.

They come in and it's looking for, you know, complex emotional, spiritual issues rather than, you know, basic breaking a habit kind of a thing that people used to think hypnotherapy was about.

Right.

So this awakening that's happening, I'm seeing it, you know, daily in my practice.

So where can people find you if they want to study with you or book a session with you?

Yeah.

Website is Past Life Awakening Institute.

YouTube is past life Awakening Instagram, Past Life Awakening.

They're the big three.

Don't be surprised at how many of my listeners are going to reach out to you.

And they will reach out, but they're all wonderful, and I know that they appreciate you being here.

So thank you for enlightening my audience.

I really enjoyed our conversation.

We'll have to have you back.

Have another talk.

I would love that.

And thank you to my listeners.

Tune in next week for a fresh episode of the Dead Life.

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