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Episode #112 - Old Trafford Annihilation! Liverpool Smash Manchester United

Episode 112 • 25th October 2021 • Squeaky Bum Time: An English Premier League Podcast • Laurent Courtines, Mike Salerno, Chop Sports Media

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hello and welcome to the squeaky bum

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time podcast with mike and laurent it is

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tuesday october 26th in this episode

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only one thing can be discussed well

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some other things too an old trafford

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annihilation ole out but for real this

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time liverpool

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five manchester united

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zero

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and it was the manor mike how do you

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feel about this result a seismic

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result for manchester united's history

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actually yeah that was a [ __ ] kicking um

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but i want to dive back to you're going

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to get into the olly out craziness and

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and i'm not playing

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um

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let's let's but what give me one second

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let's not i don't think the game is

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everyone's talked about the game already

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like i want to talk about everything

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around it right that's where we want to

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go masterful

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real quick a word on that pass from

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jordan henderson because if that was de

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bruyne

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then people would bow to it and people

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would make a statue of kevin de bruyne

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about that [ __ ] past that was here's

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the thing insane it was really good it

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was for the last goal right

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the thing is de bruyne tries that pass

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twice a game whereas jordan henderson

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does it once

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once every six months yeah

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all right

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so we had a weekend on our hands where

01:22

arsenal won on friday they looked

01:23

amazing chelsea they did look amazing

01:26

yeah okay chelsea won by a touchdown and

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everybody's crowned

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kings of the [ __ ] overworld

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and then city quietly beat the fifth

01:35

place team and then you had liverpool

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at the time right yeah i don't want to

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talk about who the fifth place team was

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going into last weekend and uh you had

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spurs lose because it was harry kane's

01:45

fault and you have united united united

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right what's the common denominator here

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it's that these [ __ ] pundits are so

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[ __ ] at their job i'm not here to say

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that they don't know the game that they

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don't know the sport and they don't know

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how to talk about the sport the problem

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that we find and actually the advantage

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that you and i have over

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the gary linekers and and all of these

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guys is that they watch something they

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consume it

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and then they get asked what they just

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saw for the last 45 minutes and very few

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people in the world are good at that in

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anything right yeah the ones that are

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good are actually really really good

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fine but yes of course and now keep in

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mind also that they've got a producer in

02:26

their ear saying oh talk about this

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talking point talk about how ronaldo

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doesn't do this or whatever and talk

02:31

about how great salah is

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the robbies do it for nbc it's clickbait

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it's [ __ ] and it's and it's the

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human condition to an extent like right

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you're like i just saw this i can't

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believe it blah blah blah so now like i

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said on friday we were crowning arsenal

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not [ __ ] they're still [ __ ]

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they're still [ __ ]

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chelsea

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world beaters no they're flat track

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bullies right

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yeah listen

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my argument goes off the rails because

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liverpool were completely unbelievable

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and united were arguably as bad but

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guess what guys we've been telling you

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for three months that they have me and

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you as basically holding midfielders

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right mcfred that's they're worthless so

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why are we sitting here on october 26

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25th whatever day it is acting surprised

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the ad the unmitigated goal that we

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would have

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to say i can't believe that that just

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happened now the the manner in which

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liverpool took their goals unbelievable

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but enough already right there's no

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contextualization of these results

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there's no contextualization of what

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they've just seen and the like i said

03:38

it's the combination of that and the

03:39

click bait and pushing these talking

03:42

points he's talking well it's it's

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narrative it's it's it's

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male 1 soap opera right how many times

03:48

does erica kane die she doesn't die ever

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she's going to be on the show next week

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but the problem is that you've got the

03:55

quote-unquote premier league

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scriptwriters you've got the most

03:58

dramatic pieces of

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sporting entertainment arguably in the

04:02

world better than the nfl longer twice

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as long as the nfl too yeah it's

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incredible how they've been able to

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bottle this we don't need man-made

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narratives there are narratives right

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and so this is where i get really tired

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right around the same time every year

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and for the last like three or four

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years i'm like just enough already

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yes spurs were better for 80 minutes of

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that game and no it's not [ __ ] harry

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kane's fault but that but the story is

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it's it's his story he's the team he is

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i'm just burst

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and you have these jerk offs man city

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fans i saw on twitter who were like oh i

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wonder how much you would call us now

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hey dick knows if you would have bought

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him he'd have 14 goals by now for you he

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absolutely would have 14 goals carrying

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this sad carcass of a [ __ ] club

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through the mud with him and now you're

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going to turn around and act like he

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doesn't give a [ __ ] because by the way

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last year in two years like last three

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four years he's been the guy who's been

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on the on the line making last save

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clearances more than any other center

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center back we i think the interesting

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thing with the united thing though is

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like

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what's happening in england right now is

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there's literally a debate going on

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about whether a pundit should call for

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managers to be fired

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that's literally the the conversation is

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does gary neville

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does paul scholes

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does

05:27

um does rio ferdinand are these guys

05:30

that are united guys and granted united

05:33

pundit players are going to be on

05:35

television in england because manchester

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united is the biggest team

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in the [ __ ] world right sure yeah do

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are is it their obligation to call for

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his head

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basically like does gary neville have to

05:47

say ollie should be fired he's not up

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for the job that's literally the debate

05:52

that they're having right like that's

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one thing that's happening in in the

05:55

media space i just the other one the

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other one that drives me nuts is like

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you and i have been on the show and you

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sort of laugh at me like why are you

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saying ollie out again no [ __ ] olly out

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everyone knows in the whole [ __ ]

06:07

world that this guy is a championship

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manager and the fact that yesterday's

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game is now he's gonna be out he's been

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terrible the whole [ __ ] time yeah

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he's a clown by the way he was getting

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fired at halftime on wednesday right

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like

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he's because he's not good what i expect

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from the punditry and i understand that

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this is this is a tall order this is a

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lot more to ask than i ever really

06:31

thought about and watching the nhl and

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espn proved it to me but

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it's that i want you

06:38

the professional if you guys had a hall

06:40

of fame i don't know

06:42

they would be in the hall of fame right

06:43

these guys are legends these guys have

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the ability to see the field

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in ways i could never even dream of so

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exactly right tell me about the game

06:53

that i don't know what what don't i

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understand about this i've been watching

06:57

your sport for 10 years i don't know

06:58

[ __ ] anything compared to you right

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but but

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like i said it is very difficult in the

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moment to contextualize this stuff and

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not to just say holy [ __ ] arsenal look

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great holy [ __ ] norwich is the worst

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team ever you know what norwich isn't

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even the worst team in the last 12

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months okay

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um they're actually on a historic pace

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to be worse than derby that's how bad

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they are okay i haven't watched

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sheffield united last year was [ __ ]

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worse

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but they were they were in the end um

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yeah so i mean the united thing is is

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it's such an interesting sport and in in

07:34

in this way

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a loss is not a loss it's how you lose

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right for united this isn't just that

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had they lost two nothing they could

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have lost five nothing as long as it was

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because of certain reasons actually no

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five nothing's pretty bad well if they

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had a red card early and right they

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looked laughable they looked disjointed

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they looked

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literally like they didn't have a plan

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and

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they don't have a plan it's clear like

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the the team that that was put out for

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that game was the same team that that

08:07

solshar put out at atlanta that was down

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to nothing and looked awful and he had

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to bring on pogba and and uh and

08:16

and crew to make the change that got

08:18

them to be on the comeback and he was

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gonna do the same thing again like it's

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it's just madness right it's folly but

08:23

what we want and i think the thing that

08:25

is the problem for people like you and i

08:27

who are insane people

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basically

08:30

why would we have a podcast right uh you

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know you know it would be like you know

08:35

we watch this [ __ ] we want more we want

08:38

extra like i could have watched all the

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united stuff

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and i do watch all the united stuff to

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find anything that can i can bring to

08:47

you guys on this podcast that's

08:49

different right and so that's where

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these narratives come in and i i have a

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little bit less

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i'm a i like gary neville so i ha and he

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by the way if you don't know who he is

08:59

he's the

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god what's his equivalent he's he's the

09:04

who he's the he's a tony romo

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essentially of

09:08

the premier league right like the most

09:10

respected pundit who calls things before

09:13

they happen right i mean he's not that

09:14

good but whatever yeah he is the most

09:17

respected pundit right because he's

09:19

outspoken and he does he he's outspoken

09:22

as a working-class person and we'll call

09:23

the government out when it makes sense

09:24

which is kind of cool anyway

09:27

so

09:28

he basically is saying this team he's

09:31

saying everything but

09:33

all they should be fired

09:35

he's saying the team is unprepared i

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doesn't i can't see what they're doing

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on the

09:40

coaching ground i can't see what man

09:42

united is doing he gave a really good

09:45

tidbit which was this he was like when

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you defend and you are in training

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you have to play like you're gonna play

09:53

in a game no goals that was a really

09:56

good insight that i listened to like it

09:57

was the hour-long post-match game he was

09:58

like when we trained it was no goals and

10:02

if we gave up a goal in training you

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[ __ ] [ __ ] that guy out you didn't

10:06

run back we're doing seven v7s and you

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gave up a goal no [ __ ] way

10:11

that was a really good tidbit like you

10:13

were looking for where you go oh

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ola is not doing that he's not going no

10:18

no goals

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right

10:20

or if you give up a goal in training

10:22

you're not playing

10:24

right that's definitely not happening

10:26

right they're not coached at all

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it's just i think and i made this

10:30

comment i think like so one of the

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things that happened in the united game

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is all of a sudden

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united started pressing out of the blue

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like they they've never

10:40

whenever they beat city they beat city

10:42

because they sit back whenever they beat

10:44

anybody they beat them because they sit

10:46

back and hit on the counter all of a

10:48

sudden they started pressing as though

10:50

someone went like this all right boys

10:53

it's liverpool we're at home we're gonna

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take it to these [ __ ] scouser

10:57

scumbags we're gonna go out there we're

10:59

going to take the game we're going to be

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on the front foot we're going to go get

11:02

them and everyone's like yeah [ __ ]

11:03

and ollie's like come on boys let's go

11:05

out let's go do it and then the two two

11:07

young guys are on the team like did we

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did

11:10

did we train on pressing like what's the

11:13

trigger what do we do what do we do yeah

11:15

and they go out there and someone

11:17

presses and you go the [ __ ] he's

11:20

pressing now what do i do

11:22

oh i've got to press so and then

11:24

liverpool just went right through them

11:26

because they literally don't have a

11:28

system they don't like i think ollie

11:31

goes out there and just thinks that

11:34

i think he thinks the talking that sir

11:37

alex ferguson did when he played

11:39

was all the coaching that he did

11:41

yeah rather than

11:43

rather than all the stuff they did that

11:45

he's not thinking about because he was

11:46

like oh why are we doing this stupid

11:48

drill he's remembering ferguson's

11:51

talks

11:53

not all the training they did so he's

11:55

like yeah i brought back man united we

11:56

play this way i remember everything that

11:58

gaffer used to say i'm like don't you

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remember that stupid training that you

12:01

did over and over again when you ran

12:03

back and forth and did shuttle runs and

12:05

when when you saw a guy lift his finger

12:07

up you ran with him do you remember that

12:09

or maybe he was the striker and everyone

12:11

said watch what ollie does when ollie

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goes you go

12:14

and he never trained for it

12:16

because they were living off his

12:17

instincts

12:18

that's boggling that a team that

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expensive and that good played that bad

12:24

it is and

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before we any further on united we need

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to be said at the moment

12:30

they were playing the best team in

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europe

12:32

okay

12:33

they were playing the best in europe

12:35

with the best player in the world

12:37

he's definitely the best boy but

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he's the best player in the world and he

12:41

is on right now [ __ ] planet right now

12:43

yes okay yeah it's it's not close and he

12:46

did [ __ ] that the best player in the

12:47

world does

12:48

okay yes and

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so you had a combination i i think

12:52

liverpool but liverpool didn't play well

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how [ __ ] up is this that they played

12:56

okay but he played unfucking believably

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he always does right every day that's

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what i mean so so far be it for me to

13:04

complain that liverpool isn't getting

13:06

enough credit here you know i hate them

13:08

like i hate isis they're really good

13:10

you know isis makes a couple good points

13:12

anyway

13:13

i think that they're actually getting

13:15

lost in all this

13:17

you know you know what i've got it you

13:18

know what you know what it is

13:21

manchester united is france

13:23

in march of: 1940

13:26

we got this

13:28

yeah like the germans

13:30

it'll be fine

13:31

and then

13:32

the vermont goes right through the

13:33

ardennes and then churchill calls gamlan

13:36

is like hey where are your reserves

13:40

reserves

13:41

what do you mean

13:42

we we don't have any reserves they're in

13:44

belgium with your army we have a sancho

13:47

yeah we have sencho

13:49

like are you [ __ ] kidding me what are

13:52

you doing

13:54

you hadn't been buying one defender you

13:56

can buy one defensive midfielder why are

13:58

the tanks in a line

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i i mean i don't know do you have gas

14:03

gasoline what are you talking about we

14:04

use the roads they bombed you on the

14:07

roads what are you doing

14:09

that's my good world war ii reference

14:10

for the day that was good that was

14:11

strong yeah it was very much france

14:13

1940. it was very much that right like

14:16

and i don't want to call liverpool the

14:18

nazis but the liverpool are the nazis

14:20

except they will i mean they have a

14:21

german coach made in the lab so right

14:23

god damn it he's a nazi anyway uh it was

14:27

incredible but they weren't even good

14:29

united were just

14:30

they literally ran into each other yeah

14:34

wambasaka on the wing and for the first

14:36

goal is like pressing someone when

14:38

someone's marking him like what are you

14:40

doing

14:41

yeah

14:42

anyway

14:43

i have been on the end of liverpool ass

14:45

kickings as sure have i

14:48

like really bad where we're down three

14:50

nil because anfield turns up to 11 and

14:54

they're in your face pressing you and

14:56

kicking your ass this was not that

14:59

this was just

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we're playing

15:02

we're missing

15:03

our starting midfield

15:05

really

15:07

keda and milner

15:09

right

15:10

and you know and by the way before you

15:12

got it rookie center back

15:14

konate has played two games in the

15:16

league

15:17

just copped aside today's a day

15:20

trent didn't do much in fact he was on

15:22

skates i mean he had a couple of good

15:23

balls but

15:25

they just went through them

15:27

like pate threw a goose it was awful

15:31

and i laughed because i was i was in a

15:32

group with all the scousers at uh the

15:35

the fan fest in l.a

15:38

yes yeah which i want to get i want to

15:40

hear more about that in a second but

15:41

yeah oh baby i it was crazy the first

15:44

first chance of the game goes to bruno

15:46

and he puts it into music

15:48

and

15:49

from that i said liverpool weren't that

15:51

good i went to take a piss and it was

15:52

like two nothing and i was like whoa

15:55

um

15:56

but yeah i mean first so that's that's

15:58

my my axe to grind on the punditry i

16:01

just

16:02

every day of this weekend had a

16:04

different storyline like again man

16:06

united liverpool was the last game of

16:07

the week you had arsenal look amazing by

16:10

the way they looked fine villa looked

16:12

like complete and utter [ __ ] okay they

16:14

played the three at the back and it was

16:16

a disaster it was a nightmare

16:18

um

16:19

they didn't they didn't bring on bailey

16:21

early enough and then when they did it

16:23

was okay

16:24

um they were okay in the second half

16:26

saturday morning right chelsea did what

16:29

championship contenders do to garbage

16:32

[ __ ] bottom of the table teams

16:34

i have a bone to pick with you you're

16:37

you like farka staying i think he has to

16:40

go like i i respect it but here's the

16:42

thing he's gotta get but but here's a

16:45

narrative thing no one talks about him

16:46

getting fired is it because nobody's

16:49

[ __ ] yes but if you're a norwich fan

16:51

you care i mean people who are small

16:54

level teams they want their teams talked

16:56

about they complain about where they are

16:58

on match of the day the famous show

17:00

we're going to give ourselves

17:02

i'm sure if we had norwich fans they'd

17:03

be mad that we don't talk about them

17:05

we're gonna give them three minutes on

17:06

this show because if i told you today if

17:08

we spend 20 minutes talking about norris

17:10

we're never gonna no no no but i just

17:11

wanted the context of just like okay he

17:14

should be fired well uh in a vacuum yes

17:17

right but the problem with norwich is

17:19

that they are

17:20

financially cash-strapped they are

17:22

trying to keep their team afloat and the

17:24

best way they know how to do it is

17:25

staying

17:27

winning the championship or coming close

17:28

and being promoted to the premier league

17:30

even if it's just for a cup of coffee in

17:31

here they spent a lot of money this time

17:33

to be fair

17:35

yeah i mean they sold ben diaz they got

17:38

brian uh brandon williams from united is

17:41

a as a backup they've got

17:42

uh tabak that was on liverpool last

17:45

season just before the stop back of stop

17:48

back uh stop they grabbed yeah they

17:49

grabbed sergeant because who is older

17:51

than dirt

17:53

and he's not scoring

17:55

but they

17:56

they

17:56

they did what they should do i just

17:58

think that if i was a player on that

18:01

team

18:03

i wouldn't

18:05

want to feel like there's no

18:06

accountability that my coach can lose

18:09

20 games in a row in the premier league

18:11

which is what has happened going back to

18:13

last season they're on more than 20

18:15

games in a row lost okay there are

18:17

different

18:18

ambition levels

18:20

there are

18:21

the lesters

18:22

who come up and have ambition to get

18:24

into the top half of the table and then

18:26

they win the [ __ ] league there's

18:28

brentford's who are like actually we're

18:30

smarter than these [ __ ] and

18:31

we're going to beat them at their own

18:32

game

18:33

they've been getting screwed they have

18:35

been and then there's norwich who's like

18:37

just happy to be at the party um we know

18:41

here's the thing about

18:42

demoted teams is that they the air can

18:45

come out of those tires so fast and they

18:47

can go from cont contender for the in

18:49

the championship to mid table and then

18:52

it's all over yeah yeah then you're then

18:55

then your leads and you're 17 years in

18:57

the wilderness right you don't want to

18:59

be there they don't they know what

19:00

they're not and i respect the [ __ ] out

19:02

of them yeah i i just i just think

19:04

though

19:06

there is

19:07

you can't just

19:08

keep the same i just don't i think it

19:11

goes stale i think you can lose the

19:12

players i think that just now maybe it's

19:15

not this season this might not be the

19:16

season for it and you're just content to

19:18

go down right that's fine but yeah

19:22

but i would want to show the players

19:24

that we have intent to stay in the

19:25

league

19:26

okay i would want to show the players

19:28

within the same structure you can still

19:31

change the manager they don't they just

19:33

need a new voice right here's the thing

19:36

can you

19:36

can you attract

19:38

a manager who will play the the type of

19:41

football that if you go down will bring

19:43

you right back up

19:45

can you attract him to norwich

19:46

they got they got him from the

19:49

uh farca is from the second division of

19:53

of dortmund he was the youth coach

19:55

you have a guy in wagner who's was you

19:59

know he's in germany you can bring you

20:00

could even get another german coach you

20:02

can get an attacking manager

20:05

but they stayed up one season playing

20:07

attacking football i'm saying you could

20:08

still go down but don't go down not

20:10

changing the easiest thing to change

20:13

but you but you lose

20:15

control quickly if you don't put the

20:18

right guy back in charge all right put

20:20

it this way let me walk back my

20:21

statement a little bit i'm not saying

20:23

i'm gonna ride with daniel farka till

20:25

the day i die what i'm saying is you

20:27

better be [ __ ] right if you're gonna

20:29

do it because this has been proven that

20:31

you can go bouncing back and forth be

20:33

financially solvent and squared away

20:35

there

20:36

but if you [ __ ] that up and

20:39

everyone knows i don't even know the

20:40

coach they should get

20:42

oh

20:43

ian yvette you haven't heard of him i

20:45

promise you he's the culture of bolton

20:48

he brought up a team called barrow from

20:51

the second division did three promotions

20:53

in a row and they literally called them

20:56

baro salona

20:59

they have a submarine on their logo

21:00

because it's where the uh subs were

21:03

built in i love that in barcelona and

21:06

he's a really good coach and young and

21:07

unproven and if you jumped him into

21:10

norwich he would be happy to make that

21:12

jump our three minutes on norwich are up

21:14

uh but we do need to talk about how

21:16

chelsea were like i said they do what

21:18

championship contenders do and they beat

21:20

the [ __ ] out of them and and

21:22

tip of the cap to them but again they've

21:24

lost they not lost they have dropped

21:26

points in three matches this season

21:29

yeah uh they the very valiant draw at

21:32

anfield which they were down a man and

21:34

exactly super heroic

21:36

i understand about it they lost to city

21:39

and they lost to juventus who's honestly

21:41

not your father juventus no they're not

21:43

very good so

21:45

until they beat somebody their third

21:47

best

21:48

for me i think i think everyone i think

21:50

everyone agrees with that i think they

21:51

are third best wow i was thinking of i

21:53

was thinking of

21:55

maybe maybe chris wilder formerly of

21:57

sheffield united could take that that

21:59

norwich team would you stop it with nars

22:01

we're not going to get anybody listening

22:02

i just wanted to get the manager's name

22:04

[Laughter]

22:06

where do we go from here what do we want

22:08

to talk about so i think the thing

22:09

that's interesting about the chelsea

22:11

game is

22:12

what does lukaku feel like he scored

22:15

early

22:16

there was a moment that the narrative

22:18

kicked up for them to score then they

22:20

kind of stopped scoring mason mount

22:22

comes back in and they play

22:24

for lack of a better word a more city

22:26

style with the small kind of punch and

22:29

judy strikers or want the ball at feet

22:31

and go at them and can move around be

22:33

more interchangeable and they put a

22:34

seven on norwich does tuko have enough

22:37

guts to be like you know what maybe not

22:38

lukaku because lukaku kind of has the

22:41

same problem that some of these strikers

22:42

have they can't press

22:44

they're not

22:45

weird because he's a gazelle and he's um

22:47

he's basically he's actually a horse

22:49

right like he's maybe

22:50

maybe it's the fitness maybe it's the

22:52

quickness maybe it's not maybe what he

22:53

wants to do he wants to go in behind so

22:55

that's an interesting piece of maybe

22:57

they can play differently maybe they

22:58

have another gear now and they and and

23:01

they can sort of think about it but in

23:02

when they play that way then they do

23:04

need pool of sick and they listen that's

23:06

how they won the champions league right

23:07

there well so they uh

23:08

don't

23:09

they had 18 they now have 18 different

23:12

goal scorers i think maybe 17. either

23:14

way it's a [ __ ] tremendous amount for

23:16

uh they get a lot of goals from defense

23:18

which is cool right it's probably 16 or

23:20

so games into the season at this point

23:22

in including champions league including

23:24

the cops and all that um so that's

23:27

incredible um but honestly and lukaku

23:29

has not been on the street in six seven

23:31

games yeah so i mean i love them like

23:33

this i love them in the in the three at

23:35

the back with with chilwell and james

23:38

and giorgino and kovacek i mean everyone

23:41

this whole front

23:42

the whole the whole the three can really

23:44

move around and press and do things but

23:46

again you know like norwich is is poor

23:49

and they're just yeah good enough give

23:50

what they're supposed that was and that

23:51

was easy i don't trust chelsea to not

23:54

regress

23:55

their back i think they'll lose i think

23:57

they'll i think they'll slip because of

23:58

draws they won't lose games they'll just

24:00

draw their way out of the championship

24:02

sure

24:03

because i don't disagree with that

24:05

however and and at this stage of the

24:08

season as we wait for liverpool to have

24:10

their comeuppance with afcon

24:13

it's got to be cities to lose and by

24:15

probably a comfortable margin at this

24:17

point yeah city city i know you hate

24:19

hearing that but like

24:21

and it's i don't i don't mean to make it

24:23

sound like chelsea or [ __ ] they're not

24:24

no no they're fantastic these are like

24:26

this is like you're not it's 95 points

24:30

yes this is the goal well because

24:32

because here's the other reason there

24:33

are only three good teams in this league

24:35

united are clearly [ __ ] arsenal's [ __ ]

24:38

spurs are [ __ ] yeah i mean you go you go

24:40

from four

24:41

to twelve

24:43

and

24:44

they're all

24:47

if we went back and listened to the

24:49

things united is

24:52

as talented a team as those other teams

24:55

as our top three as an individual they

24:56

just don't have they don't they're sorry

24:59

they're not they're missing a talented

25:00

coach right like if you count the coach

25:03

yeah

25:04

yeah yeah piece of data that helps your

25:06

team kick on

25:07

it matters right coaching matters right

25:10

yeah uh you know you do need the players

25:12

but this is showing like if you if if

25:14

you don't think that jurgen klopp

25:16

wouldn't win with that united team

25:17

you're out of your [ __ ] mind because

25:19

no i don't what is he going to sign

25:20

jordan henderson to play the six because

25:23

he would find a way

25:25

to play

25:26

that that is to the strength of that

25:28

group like if you don't think kante if

25:30

he comes into that united team if you

25:33

don't think that within two months that

25:35

team is petrifying

25:37

you're not paying attention to how good

25:38

that team is

25:40

it's

25:41

always full i understand and i'm not

25:43

arguing that but you can't play eight

25:45

attackers at once

25:47

right you just can you can try you can

25:49

try

25:50

you sure [ __ ] that brings me to

25:52

brentford uh to brighton versus city uh

25:55

and they don't have their eight and what

25:57

did they do they were like

25:59

grand potter being creative he was like

26:01

you know what i'm gonna play adam

26:03

lallana here and see what happens how'd

26:04

that go

26:05

it did not go well that did not go well

26:08

uh it did not go well in the first half

26:10

he was getting dominated and city in the

26:12

first half were well the first half hour

26:14

probably the best they played but they

26:16

did what they normally do they blow you

26:18

away they score the three goals and they

26:20

kind of

26:21

don't sustain the craziness but

26:24

different from i'm gonna keep going with

26:26

ollie and you can shake your head

26:28

different from ollie what we saw with

26:29

brighton was he came he took he put on

26:33

lampty he got rid of the three at the

26:35

back he went change the shape sure and

26:37

you know what that team

26:39

played really well brighton in the

26:41

second half of that game and got a goal

26:43

and deserved it and they basically they

26:45

gave up a final goal in the last

26:47

three seconds now it's a 4-1

26:49

it's only two goals different than what

26:51

happened to united but it's a completely

26:53

different manner of defeat it's like

26:55

just night and day and if grand potter

26:57

was [ __ ] managing united he'd have a

26:59

hard time because the players might be

27:01

like who the [ __ ] is this guy but if

27:03

they wouldn't feel like they're going

27:05

into the game with their pants down

27:07

which is what they are right they are

27:09

manchester united are

27:11

i'm gonna make a really bad reference i

27:13

don't care like the movie arthur they're

27:15

like a really rich handsome drunk guy

27:17

who shows up who really is missing their

27:20

potential

27:22

is liza minnelli

27:25

sure there you go

27:27

she's got the mail ticket she's just got

27:29

the meal ticket that's all yeah

27:31

so i'm making bad references no that's a

27:33

good one i like that

27:35

there was one on a podcast that said

27:36

maybe wes anderson could could be their

27:38

coach then they'd be then they'd be very

27:40

quirky and whimsical yeah the manchester

27:43

united hotel or whatever the [ __ ] right

27:44

they would wear really cool 70s outfits

27:49

yeah

27:50

they wear little hats and have string

27:51

mustaches yeah yeah um but that

27:54

that would be incredible

27:55

adrian

27:57

i do want you to talk about

28:01

spurs and what is going on with spurs in

28:04

london like you've lost four games in

28:06

london what's happening

28:08

um

28:09

we lost to chelsea who were a better

28:11

team

28:12

uh i don't know who the fourth one was

28:14

uh

28:16

the three big ones right chelsea west

28:18

ham

28:19

is is david here's an important thing

28:21

would you take moyes over nuno right now

28:24

no because we have ambition higher than

28:26

that right like this is the best that

28:28

west ham can possibly be last season was

28:31

essentially right like

28:34

and maybe i'm deluded and maybe i'm

28:37

officially far like we're far enough

28:39

away that i'm a crazy person for

28:41

expecting what i saw two to three years

28:42

ago under palace

28:44

the arsenal palace that's the fourth one

28:46

right right right

28:47

um

28:49

so yeah i mean look [ __ ] snap [ __ ]

28:51

past

28:52

um love them i love them

28:56

what's happened is i remember i said on

28:58

our show last week that nuno seems to

29:01

have figured out his best 11. i thought

29:02

he did too i was surprised against

29:04

newcastle who's the second worst team in

29:06

this league right

29:09

90 seconds although maybe bruce should

29:12

manage united i think he'd be good it'd

29:14

be so too wrong to make it right um

29:17

because he's a club legend right that's

29:19

all it seems to take the thing that was

29:21

sort of telling to me

29:23

was listen spurs boss the first half

29:24

they should have had a goal from sunny

29:26

probably could have had one from kane

29:27

yeah we go into half it's at nil nil

29:30

um and nuno doesn't make any changes

29:33

until very late on

29:35

and sort of that that goes to the um the

29:38

midweek loss against vitesse

29:41

uh one of the teams from the belgian

29:42

league um

29:44

lovely

29:45

um

29:47

they lose to them playing a completely

29:49

different 11 right not a single player

29:51

on both sides oh there was something

29:53

that nuno said that wrangled people what

29:55

did he say that this is my second team

29:57

like yeah like none of these players

29:59

belong here essentially not to that that

30:02

was the met that was clearly the message

30:03

that was delivered and so now

30:06

whether it's nil-nil or after even

30:08

antonio scores and like [ __ ] he's [ __ ]

30:10

on his bench

30:12

his bench is sort of [ __ ]

30:14

you're not wrong but fair enough you

30:17

know like

30:18

i don't know

30:20

look

30:26

the issue here is

30:28

skip and hoiberg are

30:31

fighting midfielders

30:33

who

30:34

battle

30:35

and when spurs are good they're going to

30:37

be good because skip and hoiberg [ __ ]

30:40

the other two guys up sure

30:42

and they went against

30:44

rice and sock

30:46

they can't fight those guys up no they

30:48

can't [ __ ] them up but i thought that

30:49

they did well i thought rice was quite

30:50

good as what you'd expect

30:52

uh and by the way

30:54

i think christian romero was

30:56

unbelievable i thought he was great not

30:58

good great in this game i mean i mean it

31:01

had neil nil draw written all over it

31:03

right like it's not like you got the

31:04

problem beat up

31:05

here's the problem it's just a tough

31:07

game christian romero

31:09

center back

31:11

promoted

31:12

more offense than harry kane than human

31:14

son right and what i mean by promoted

31:16

offense i don't mean shots on goal i

31:18

mean he intercepted a ball he stepped in

31:21

like you would expect the defensive mid

31:23

to do he read the pass his vision is

31:26

unbelievable if you watch this guy

31:27

closely he's fantastic yeah that's

31:29

supposed to be his thing right at

31:30

atlanta that's what he did right he's

31:32

he's aggressive and he's like all right

31:34

you're passing it to right no you're not

31:36

and we're going the other way he was

31:38

leading counter attacks like two or

31:39

three times maybe

31:41

maybe maybe nuno should go to the three

31:44

put romero in the middle and make him be

31:47

conor cody and then he'll really feel

31:48

comfortable yeah i guess i mean

31:50

[Laughter]

31:51

look i mean has he tried that yet

31:54

the goal comes from a really really it

31:56

was actually a very similar play reggion

31:58

steps in front of a pass

32:00

gives it right back and the corner that

32:02

results from all that [ __ ]

32:05

is is off of antonio's footing in the

32:06

net

32:07

so

32:08

again it's it's the issue that i think

32:10

spurs

32:12

have had since erickson left

32:14

and since the ballet left

32:17

okay since well aaron's the belly left

32:19

which is only six months difference but

32:22

you know the the creativity of break

32:24

teams down that are in the middle and

32:25

especially against that's a really tough

32:27

midfield that's our really good west ham

32:29

team like yeah you're not you're not

32:31

gonna just go to london and beat them i

32:33

don't think it's bad to have lost to

32:34

west ham it's just in the context of the

32:36

season this game is not gonna be a game

32:39

that you write back and go oh we should

32:40

have had that one uh listen i i was i

32:44

was ready for a draw

32:46

and it was compromised and i'm not

32:48

surprised that we lost on a

32:50

nearby

32:51

beast like you're post-stepping guys

32:53

have you [ __ ] ever watched west ham

32:55

before

32:56

cover the big dude

32:58

that was the other thing

33:00

why is harry kane marking him on a

33:01

corner i asked you

33:03

why isn't romero doing it why isn't dyer

33:06

doing it like like he's the [ __ ]

33:07

striker

33:09

he's back there

33:10

you're not going to score on a

33:11

counter-attack if he's back there that's

33:13

one thing for sure no no no and so

33:16

you know look and that's he's this is

33:18

another one this is a reactive nuno's

33:20

got to go he's he has he's lost

33:22

he's not no believe me you don't even

33:24

know

33:25

they've lost listen here's the stat

33:27

chelsea arsenal west ham they've lost an

33:30

aggregate ten to one

33:32

okay and not only that it's all about

33:34

like you said the manner of the defeat

33:35

right

33:36

that game that game sucked well okay you

33:39

could have had it you could have had

33:40

your goals you didn't you got [ __ ] on

33:43

a [ __ ] set piece and a [ __ ] goal it

33:44

happens

33:45

the way that they lost at the emirates

33:47

was shocking that was dead they got they

33:50

got bodied by chelsea chelsea you're a

33:51

much better team i'm not gonna run

33:52

that's fine arsenal are not better than

33:54

them arsenal are patently worse than

33:56

them i think

33:57

and

33:58

and here they are just

34:00

not even just not tracking not doing

34:02

anything so the matter

34:04

look you can lose one of those it's

34:06

going to happen

34:07

even if you lose to arsenal listen we're

34:08

not happy about it but you know okay

34:11

potter in

34:12

no thomas frank in

34:16

i want to raid brighton um brentford

34:18

excuse me

34:19

oh they did to be fair they did lose to

34:21

lester your guy daca that you grabbed

34:23

off the wire that i swore i had but yeah

34:25

uh he he's in and now i think vardy's

34:27

injured

34:31

pick up of the year may the

34:36

here's your update on nine in owen's

34:38

fantasy premier league thank you on to

34:40

the next um

34:42

but no i think that i think that one

34:43

time

34:44

and liverpool just alienated the world i

34:46

i just my heart bleeds for brentford

34:48

because they were

34:49

buzzing that entire first half by the

34:51

way on the preview show i did say that

34:53

spurs in west ham and and um bradford

34:56

and lester were playing simultaneously

34:58

and i said that i would watch more brent

34:59

for lester even before the west end goal

35:01

that was true i was like this game

35:03

[ __ ] stinks and this is awesome and i

35:06

did it was great uh lester you know

35:10

bunkering down they get a a goal

35:12

um

35:13

and brentford had pieces and chances and

35:16

they just couldn't get it past

35:18

michael

35:19

they finally break through off of a

35:21

corner at right after half somebody well

35:23

to be fair lester had the early lead

35:25

because yuri tillerman's is now the guy

35:27

who's yeah what the [ __ ] that's why i

35:29

couldn't for whatever i couldn't

35:30

remember how they got their goal but

35:32

yeah wow

35:33

yeah

35:34

just scoring ridiculous goals oh my god

35:36

that was i mean

35:37

goal of the month without a question but

35:39

i mean that's a goal of the season

35:41

candidate that was a funny again that's

35:43

his second one uh and then madison

35:45

picked one up late right after johnson

35:47

scored on the corner the thing that's

35:49

great is and this is one of those pundit

35:50

things where now i always notice it

35:53

uh in one of the match of the days alan

35:55

shira showed how brentford do overloads

35:59

and you if you watch them on any set

36:02

piece

36:03

anything you'll see tony and then four

36:06

other guys on the other side with him

36:07

where some guy's in the back and you're

36:09

just like

36:10

there's three [ __ ] here and i'm

36:12

on my own now you'd assume that everyone

36:15

would just do that or figure it out or

36:17

try and do it but i guess they have a

36:18

counter to it or they they move guys

36:20

around and they always end up sometimes

36:22

right they always end up with three

36:24

against an overload of four against

36:26

three three against two in the back post

36:28

where tony can either pick up scraps or

36:30

put one in and sometimes they they they

36:33

skip it and it just goes to another guy

36:35

because i think

36:36

putting it into the mixer is kind of a

36:38

luck

36:39

and skill but they do try it and it does

36:41

work and they do get their goals on

36:43

corners a lot they're still great

36:45

they're just getting unlucky i think

36:47

well the funny thing is that that

36:48

lester's winner comes off of a counter

36:50

from a corner right and then yeah

36:52

beautiful good gentleman's tealman's

36:54

again

36:55

clearly man of the match um serves in

36:58

daca who goes down the right side and

37:00

just squares it for madison who could

37:02

tap it in um but that one that one was a

37:05

bit of a dagger for for my brentford

37:07

love and for my brentford second half

37:10

moneyline bet so that's oh you had a

37:13

brentford second i went live i i said i

37:16

told her i always go live

37:18

yeah

37:20

yeah

37:21

but that was tough that was fun i was

37:23

watching that in the fan fest and i

37:25

wasn't i was i think i was the only

37:26

person who cheered for the brantford

37:28

goal because no everyone was just

37:29

watching spurs you really get a sense of

37:31

i'm trying to see if i can get my camera

37:33

from uh making me visibly disappear

37:36

every once in a while but i can't

37:38

um

37:39

but i couldn't but yeah the the i was

37:41

the only one who cheered for the

37:42

brantford goal i was just watching

37:44

brentford the whole time everyone's just

37:46

spurs there was some smattering of west

37:48

ham

37:49

it was all liverpool and and united so

37:52

it was just bizarre

37:54

to be today do they only do um

37:57

fan fest when there's a big liverpool

37:58

game i'm so tired of that redhead

38:01

sheamus oh he sucks he's the worst dude

38:04

i like i

38:06

walked outside i must have been walking

38:07

the dog or something and i come back and

38:09

my wife jess is like who the [ __ ] is

38:11

this guy i'm like oh it's it's is he

38:13

some crap former wrestler that no yeah i

38:16

don't even know anymore i was like he's

38:18

the wrestler isn't he i'm like yup might

38:19

turn it off i'm not even gonna watch it

38:20

the only reason i watched it on mute

38:22

looking for you but i was like this is

38:24

[ __ ] horrible

38:25

um

38:26

i don't know the first one they did in

38:27

the city was cool and i'm like nah i've

38:30

lost it the miami one was kind of funny

38:32

the way that they do the robbies the

38:33

[ __ ] with the robbies is fun yeah yeah i

38:35

mean listen it's fun they do activations

38:38

it is growing uh i mean i had i woke up

38:41

at four in the morning i was a mess i

38:43

just i couldn't tell you what was going

38:44

on it was exhausting uh by the way los

38:47

angeles

38:48

lots of bums on the trains

38:50

so uh i can tell you how this is gonna

38:52

go uh you gotta get them off the train

38:54

you can't have people living on the

38:56

[ __ ] trains okay not great not great

38:59

uh so pretty gnarly in that sense but it

39:02

was cool you know i took a picture took

39:04

a couple pictures it's cool to be at the

39:05

coliseum of the fan fest not the bumps

39:09

uh both both right um

39:12

they look like zombies yeah it's cool to

39:14

be at the coliseum i mean that's you

39:16

know: 1926

39:19

oj built it's just amazing

39:22

that's usc right he was a trojan uh so

39:24

he he ran in those fields what was funny

39:26

was it's a basically a giant version of

39:28

the forest hills stadium that i lived

39:30

near uh like it's just super high and

39:33

vertical and just a bowl with seats no

39:36

frills nothing because it was built in

39:38

1921 right but it does have that cool

39:40

arch there and it has the flame that's

39:42

going all the time so that was very cool

39:44

to be near uh the robbies came down for

39:47

a minute they chatted with some people

39:48

but they were pretty well uh

39:51

stocked up and taken away and the funny

39:53

thing was that i think about um and a

39:56

game you know we've been talking about

39:58

united we've been talking about your

39:59

team my team a game that would normally

40:02

be a game of the week that we haven't

40:03

even [ __ ] uh taken care of is uh our

40:06

friend mr ranieri dilly dong

40:08

[ __ ]

40:11

just [ __ ]

40:12

out of the blue

40:14

blow everton out of the water well no it

40:16

wasn't just that right and and our

40:18

friend our friend jess uh from the

40:20

squeaky bum time facebook group with the

40:22

which have you gotten this far in the

40:23

show you're in part of it um

40:26

you uh you alerted us to that because i

40:29

was doing a couple other things a lot of

40:30

games were in that time slot and i

40:32

looked i was like oh my goodness watford

40:34

were down 2-1

40:36

uh they took uh sar they took him off

40:40

right the player they brought on

40:42

emmanuel dennis

40:44

gets a yellow card then he gets two

40:47

assists and a goal the guy came on in

40:49

the 63rd minute i'm pretty sure

40:52

fantastic unbelievable so that you end

40:54

up winning five to two but it was on

40:56

four goals from in the last 20 minutes

40:59

of the game yeah uh josh kaley

41:01

josh got three of them josh king that's

41:03

right who

41:05

throws ancelotti under the bus he's like

41:07

i was there he never talked to me i

41:09

didn't know what i did wrong i was on

41:10

the team i was really i mean i was happy

41:12

to be there but

41:14

he

41:14

he sell he didn't celebrate the first

41:16

goal because he is a former player and

41:18

then progressively as he scores more

41:19

goals he gives less and less [ __ ]

41:23

which by the time he scores the fifth

41:24

he's basically like taking off his

41:26

clothes and running around that's like a

41:27

classically english stupid thing too

41:30

uh that i want to touch on real quick

41:32

this is why you guys lost the water

41:35

farmers like [ __ ] like that okay because

41:37

you've got george washington who's going

41:39

to attack you on christmas morning

41:41

and you're sitting there like no no no i

41:44

used to have some friends on that side

41:45

of the army like you know what i'm going

41:47

to respect them i'm going to let them

41:48

stab me in the [ __ ] sternum like

41:50

that's the kind of stupidity that we're

41:52

talking about here

41:53

celebrate the goal

41:54

celebrate the goal

41:56

heels are good i mean we don't we don't

41:59

have that in our sports at all do we

42:00

right except i mean i guess there's only

42:04

like johnny damon going to the red sox

42:06

he would no he would still [ __ ] them he

42:08

didn't care

42:09

yeah no well it's

42:11

the idea of mercenaries which ironically

42:13

would be even more

42:15

felt over there

42:16

um it's weird yeah yeah it's weird i

42:20

don't get it i guess

42:22

what you don't have a lot of is like the

42:24

redemption story right like put it this

42:26

way

42:27

if if

42:29

a player

42:30

scores against his old team or whatever

42:32

the like i i get like the muted

42:34

celebrations unless they [ __ ] you

42:37

yeah they did in this case they [ __ ]

42:38

him yeah then

42:40

just i would take the immediate yellow

42:42

card take the [ __ ] off

42:46

so and someone just have an undershirt

42:47

that says by the way

42:49

another side note so what's even crazier

42:51

uh

42:52

an anecdote on the united game because i

42:53

just heard this earlier

42:55

it was ten years to the day of the sixth

42:57

one

42:58

and the ballot teddy why always me i'm

43:00

sorry

43:02

and someone said

43:03

if only salah knew he could have just

43:05

done a why always me shirt too i would

43:08

have just killed united they would have

43:09

just been like i hate you scouse [ __ ]

43:12

oh someone would have someone would have

43:14

hurt him someone would have went in

43:15

two-footed like right away

43:17

oh we you know we didn't even touch on

43:19

pogba being like i gotta go

43:21

crack

43:22

[Applause]

43:23

i didn't start a butch by the way it was

43:26

uh it was a pogba tackle he was a little

43:28

salty he wanted to go in for the ball

43:30

i i don't like var i i didn't like it i

43:33

didn't care i was like until i saw how

43:35

hurt uh

43:37

you can't you can't govern for that but

43:39

you can't govern for that that's not

43:40

fair you have to govern your intent not

43:43

on results

43:45

no i don't i don't disagree but i think

43:47

that

43:48

it was

43:49

it was not malicious but it was a red

43:52

card i think for sure he totally [ __ ]

43:54

jacked his leg up so we're we are we do

43:56

have to cover the worst part of uh the

43:59

show which is uh how poor our gambling

44:01

went

44:02

boy i already alluded to mine

44:05

let me let me go through my heart for it

44:07

go for it um

44:09

first off on friday

44:12

villa plus 300. i followed you

44:15

very reasonable

44:16

i thought

44:17

villa

44:18

sure

44:19

arsenal decided

44:21

today's the day we're going to be

44:22

awesome yeah and actually

44:24

villa thought today's the day we're

44:26

going to be terrible awful and and they

44:28

were really half time oh god this i'm

44:30

going to get mad again

44:32

going into halftime they get a [ __ ]

44:34

penalty with aubameyang and emmy

44:37

martinez who owns arsenal knows all

44:40

about them you know what i was going to

44:42

tell you

44:43

obama young wanted to miss that penalty

44:45

more than any penalty he's ever missed

44:47

his face was bad his body was bad i was

44:50

like he's gonna miss this he's gonna

44:52

miss he's gonna make it he

44:54

body language doctor was like he's

44:55

missing this and he missed i thought i

44:57

felt the same way he missed

44:59

and scores on the rebound a [ __ ] goal

45:01

unlucky [ __ ] goal for

45:04

and

45:06

i just

45:07

at that point i knew the bet was lost

45:09

because i was like one nil i'm like

45:10

actually if arsenal goes up one nil i

45:12

feel pretty good about this i might go

45:13

back in

45:14

the thing was what was i was so certain

45:16

about was like no tierney they're [ __ ]

45:19

but i just what i saw from arsenal was

45:22

and i'm gonna laugh just

45:23

athleticism guys sure running yeah

45:26

tomehasu

45:28

flying

45:29

tavares everywhere uh yeah and and and

45:32

then neil smith right

45:34

really good running these guys are

45:36

athletes

45:37

where is this athleticism coming from

45:39

then i hear the stat arsenal has the

45:41

youngest team in the league i was like

45:42

oh

45:44

well there you go they're 24 years old

45:47

so i guess arteta has a plan

45:50

i guess we have to expect up and down

45:53

results

45:54

i

45:55

and this is why overreactions in

45:57

punditry are stupid i dipped them for

46:00

europe i'm feeling better about it now i

46:03

didn't but that's because i hate them

46:06

i also like i mean i did i looked at our

46:08

i looked at our i looked at our epl

46:10

table predictions oh god where did i

46:12

have them i had like eighth

46:17

yeah

46:18

but i had brought brighton at seventh

46:20

that's looking good we have the same top

46:22

three

46:23

and four through bot i had brentford 11

46:26

4 through 11

46:28

even 12 west ham yeah

46:31

just i pick them out of a hat then none

46:33

of them matter

46:34

yeah the only thing that matters is who

46:35

finishes fourth but they're all [ __ ] i'm

46:37

definitely not going to get my new

46:38

castle relegation though

46:41

not now not anymore

46:42

hey how was i supposed to know that

46:45

let me let me let me let me keep my bets

46:47

going uh as we go through it

46:49

so we had villa i had brighton plus one

46:52

so i had given him getting giving united

46:54

city a goal uh at plus 130 that looked

46:57

okay for a minute in the second half but

47:00

it did not look good in the first half i

47:02

was like oh they're coming back they're

47:03

playing better terry glamte came in did

47:05

some things in the corner i was like oh

47:07

nice

47:08

sexy time uh but then

47:11

city got another goal so they lost

47:13

4-1 and i was like okay well whatever

47:15

that's not the end of the world and then

47:16

the last one the last two you got [ __ ]

47:19

on it

47:20

i almost won on the united score well

47:22

you should have because i mean that was

47:25

and that was one that like that one felt

47:27

like

47:28

last season i'm talking about the var

47:31

on ronaldo oh that was so cool i was

47:33

just this is why okay and you're you're

47:37

going down the rabbit hole of degenerate

47:38

gamblers like myself because no i'm not

47:40

in a five no no you are a little bit

47:42

because here's why in a five mil game

47:45

ronaldo scores and i went oh [ __ ]

47:46

laurent won his bet

47:50

and then but it was the problem is the

47:52

var with the offsides

47:54

they've been much they've been different

47:55

about it this year but the way and they

47:57

don't give a lot of explanation like one

47:59

thing i will say about american sports

48:00

is that like the nfl or nhl or whatever

48:02

like they explain why the call is what

48:05

it is now you may not agree and it

48:06

frankly may not clarify all that much

48:08

but they at least give a half-assed try

48:10

you don't get any context and all you

48:12

see is the line and it's like nothing

48:14

like this

48:15

right but i was under the impression

48:17

that last year

48:19

or i'm sorry that this year that that

48:21

was a good goal and i was kind of it

48:23

looked good it i loved his arm i thought

48:25

they moved the arm up whatever it was

48:27

yeah he was a lean offside not a no it

48:30

wasn't his feet right and then i had

48:32

already lost the liverpool bet when they

48:33

were up 4-0 at halftime because i had

48:35

draw

48:36

liverpool win you did no that didn't go

48:39

well uh so i i i don't know why i

48:43

i think we i mean if we talked about on

48:44

the show we just thought the passion and

48:46

the way that united

48:49

sort of get these weird results and the

48:51

passion and how they stand up in these

48:53

games one of the things i thought about

48:54

with united is maybe they're in like the

48:57

rafa benitez to steve bruce mold where

49:02

as much as they hated mourinho

49:04

he got them to defend

49:06

yeah and longer all day

49:09

in that team

49:11

lest

49:12

principles of defense are there

49:16

and they're just going and slowly but

49:18

surely now they're just like what do we

49:20

i don't i don't know what to do right

49:23

it's just really bad i mean the pogba

49:25

thing pogba's problems showed up again

49:26

by the way the last goal caught on the

49:28

ball bing bang boom bing bang bosh gone

49:32

uh now that wasn't his fault i feel like

49:33

fred gave him the ball and he's like

49:34

dude what what what that's what i'm

49:36

saying like

49:37

[Laughter]

49:39

anyway

49:40

uh last one no i don't that was it yeah

49:42

liverpool draw win plus 500 villa plus

49:44

300 brighton plus 130 one goal yeah i

49:47

didn't i didn't win anything i think i

49:49

think i eventually put like five or six

49:52

bets in for the for the premier league

49:53

this weekend and i went over like i

49:56

didn't remember all of them i lost all

49:57

of them

49:58

college football went well though

50:00

so i only ended up because think about

50:01

who would have bet we would have bet on

50:03

we would have bet on aston villa we

50:05

would have bet something on brentford

50:07

and tony scoring a goal we would have

50:09

bet something on spurs winning the

50:11

corners against west ham

50:13

you know all the things

50:15

all the things that we were that we are

50:16

into because we like the teams we like

50:18

right we're not going to look for

50:20

great value we would have a crackered

50:22

some weird

50:23

combination of draws and wins and loss

50:26

because it was a weird weekend like

50:28

no one was gonna although i did think

50:31

and i have seen the numbers like if you

50:33

put

50:34

plus five goals norwich

50:36

uh chelsea you probably was like plus

50:38

five thousand well no chelsea was a good

50:41

candidate because there was no lukaku

50:42

they were sort of a makeshift backline

50:44

they weren't a good candidate for

50:45

norwich together plus i'm saying like

50:48

total goals in a game

50:49

oh yeah that's the team total sure yeah

50:52

yeah oh even combined team total would

50:54

have been huge yeah but when i looked at

50:56

chelsea i actually that was one of them

50:58

i had i had draw and chelsea

51:01

uh halftime full-time because i was like

51:02

look they don't have their striker

51:04

they're gonna be a little bit muddled

51:05

and you know what for the first five ten

51:07

minutes they [ __ ] were and then

51:08

norrish was like here you go

51:10

oh god damn it guys

51:12

so

51:13

that pissed me off that's that's what

51:14

started my whole chelsea

51:16

[ __ ] big sam in

51:18

come on

51:20

let's get that's who norwich need they

51:22

need big sam yeah yeah come on isn't it

51:26

worse i know i know jelly

51:27

you know what they can [ __ ] they can

51:29

bring farka back when they go down if

51:31

they go down if they want

51:33

come on that's extra knowledge content

51:35

that is yeah that's everyone's bonus

51:37

anyway i think we can get a lot i

51:39

thought this was really good i enjoyed

51:40

this episode uh we didn't ramble we

51:43

talked it was a lot to [ __ ] talk

51:44

about jesus that was i don't think we

51:46

missed anything can we have missed

51:47

anything probably we anything left in

51:49

you

51:50

no no no no i'm i have one i have one

51:53

thing that's annoying about my own team

51:55

i love the draw and i think i like the

51:57

garden floor of united losing more than

51:59

uh my own team winning my team is boring

52:02

yeah they just have no

52:05

it's only on the field there's no extra

52:07

stuff i have one

52:09

uh this is another bet that i lost i bet

52:12

on so i had villa and then i had in a

52:14

smaller parlay i had villa chelsea and

52:16

wolves now let's pretend for a second oh

52:19

i forgot about those other teams we just

52:21

give the scores of

52:23

friends but no it doesn't matter but

52:25

this is interesting because let's

52:26

pretend that villa wins on friday

52:28

chelsea smash norwich as we've talked

52:30

about wolves are up one nil the whole

52:33

game and

52:35

get a [ __ ] penalty in the after the

52:38

allotted time had ended in the 95th or

52:40

sixth minute

52:41

and that's how

52:43

that's how mike needs a new tv because

52:45

there's a cell phone sized hole in it so

52:47

i'm actually glad that i lost that bet

52:48

on friday because i would have been

52:50

irate now i would have hedged it at some

52:52

point but i still wouldn't oh it was a

52:55

94th minute draw

52:57

yeah it was it was bad

52:59

our friend our brentford of last season

53:00

mr leeds and that was i want to say like

53:03

that partly it was like plus like 900

53:06

right so i'm like look i lost it already

53:08

so i just didn't care but i was what i

53:10

was keeping the tabs on that game and i

53:12

went oh my god in a parallel universe i

53:15

just broke my hand on something like a

53:18

stud in the wall or something like holy

53:20

[ __ ] that would have made me crazy oh i

53:22

do have one i have one more thing we

53:23

have one new friend

53:25

in the league

53:26

who

53:27

maxwell cornay

53:29

of uh of of burnley a burnley that's

53:31

right yeah he scores good goals and i'm

53:33

petty inside of him he does he's another

53:35

one of these french african guys that

53:38

just have the juice that's what city

53:41

needs they need more africa they need my

53:43

kind of africans they need

53:45

riyad mahrez they need mika richards

53:48

they need those big

53:49

bad ass battering rings yeah yeah that's

53:51

who it is um desperate for yahya yeah

53:54

like if basum if basuma gets cleared and

53:56

city signed basuma

53:58

they won't get no they want me they

54:00

would never do that after the whole

54:02

mendy thing they're going to maybe steer

54:03

clear for a little bit

54:05

no they're going to keep a little

54:06

[ __ ] profile they have disappeared

54:08

mindy he's just there yeah

54:10

yeah he's on person they're going to uh

54:13

they're going to let newcastle be the

54:14

bad guys for a little while they're just

54:16

going to lay low

54:17

and maximum play on the same team i'm

54:19

not going to be able to handle it

54:21

yeah

54:23

because now raheem sterling is like

54:24

really a candidate for newcastle

54:27

really

54:28

yeah cause he's not playing he's mad

54:30

yeah yeah yeah he's like i'll get those

54:32

checks i don't give a [ __ ] oh yeah

54:35

anyway i'm gonna wrap it

54:36

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55:00

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55:05

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55:09

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55:10

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55:12

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55:13

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55:15

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55:17

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55:18

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