In Episode #112 of the Squeaky Bum Time Podcast, Mike and Laurent discuss the historic and unprecedented DEMOLITION of Manchester United by Liverpool 5-0 at Old Trafford. Mike takes on the absurdity of punditry and how it unevenly shapes narrative and the rest of the Premier League for Match Week 9.
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hello and welcome to the squeaky bum
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time podcast with mike and laurent it is
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tuesday october 26th in this episode
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only one thing can be discussed well
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some other things too an old trafford
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annihilation ole out but for real this
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time liverpool
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five manchester united
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zero
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and it was the manor mike how do you
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feel about this result a seismic
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result for manchester united's history
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actually yeah that was a [ __ ] kicking um
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but i want to dive back to you're going
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to get into the olly out craziness and
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and i'm not playing
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um
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let's let's but what give me one second
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let's not i don't think the game is
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everyone's talked about the game already
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like i want to talk about everything
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around it right that's where we want to
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go masterful
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real quick a word on that pass from
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jordan henderson because if that was de
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bruyne
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then people would bow to it and people
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would make a statue of kevin de bruyne
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about that [ __ ] past that was here's
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the thing insane it was really good it
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was for the last goal right
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the thing is de bruyne tries that pass
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twice a game whereas jordan henderson
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does it once
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once every six months yeah
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all right
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so we had a weekend on our hands where
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arsenal won on friday they looked
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amazing chelsea they did look amazing
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yeah okay chelsea won by a touchdown and
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everybody's crowned
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kings of the [ __ ] overworld
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and then city quietly beat the fifth
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place team and then you had liverpool
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at the time right yeah i don't want to
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talk about who the fifth place team was
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going into last weekend and uh you had
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spurs lose because it was harry kane's
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fault and you have united united united
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right what's the common denominator here
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it's that these [ __ ] pundits are so
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[ __ ] at their job i'm not here to say
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that they don't know the game that they
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don't know the sport and they don't know
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how to talk about the sport the problem
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that we find and actually the advantage
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that you and i have over
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the gary linekers and and all of these
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guys is that they watch something they
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consume it
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and then they get asked what they just
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saw for the last 45 minutes and very few
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people in the world are good at that in
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anything right yeah the ones that are
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good are actually really really good
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fine but yes of course and now keep in
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mind also that they've got a producer in
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their ear saying oh talk about this
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talking point talk about how ronaldo
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doesn't do this or whatever and talk
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about how great salah is
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the robbies do it for nbc it's clickbait
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it's [ __ ] and it's and it's the
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human condition to an extent like right
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you're like i just saw this i can't
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believe it blah blah blah so now like i
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said on friday we were crowning arsenal
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not [ __ ] they're still [ __ ]
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they're still [ __ ]
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chelsea
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world beaters no they're flat track
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bullies right
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yeah listen
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my argument goes off the rails because
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liverpool were completely unbelievable
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and united were arguably as bad but
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guess what guys we've been telling you
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for three months that they have me and
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you as basically holding midfielders
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right mcfred that's they're worthless so
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why are we sitting here on october 26
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25th whatever day it is acting surprised
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the ad the unmitigated goal that we
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would have
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to say i can't believe that that just
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happened now the the manner in which
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liverpool took their goals unbelievable
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but enough already right there's no
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contextualization of these results
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there's no contextualization of what
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they've just seen and the like i said
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it's the combination of that and the
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click bait and pushing these talking
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points he's talking well it's it's
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narrative it's it's it's
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male 1 soap opera right how many times
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does erica kane die she doesn't die ever
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she's going to be on the show next week
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but the problem is that you've got the
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quote-unquote premier league
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scriptwriters you've got the most
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dramatic pieces of
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sporting entertainment arguably in the
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world better than the nfl longer twice
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as long as the nfl too yeah it's
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incredible how they've been able to
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bottle this we don't need man-made
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narratives there are narratives right
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and so this is where i get really tired
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right around the same time every year
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and for the last like three or four
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years i'm like just enough already
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yes spurs were better for 80 minutes of
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that game and no it's not [ __ ] harry
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kane's fault but that but the story is
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it's it's his story he's the team he is
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i'm just burst
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and you have these jerk offs man city
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fans i saw on twitter who were like oh i
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wonder how much you would call us now
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hey dick knows if you would have bought
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him he'd have 14 goals by now for you he
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absolutely would have 14 goals carrying
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this sad carcass of a [ __ ] club
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through the mud with him and now you're
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going to turn around and act like he
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doesn't give a [ __ ] because by the way
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last year in two years like last three
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four years he's been the guy who's been
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on the on the line making last save
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clearances more than any other center
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center back we i think the interesting
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thing with the united thing though is
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like
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what's happening in england right now is
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there's literally a debate going on
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about whether a pundit should call for
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managers to be fired
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that's literally the the conversation is
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does gary neville
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does paul scholes
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does
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um does rio ferdinand are these guys
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that are united guys and granted united
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pundit players are going to be on
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television in england because manchester
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united is the biggest team
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in the [ __ ] world right sure yeah do
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are is it their obligation to call for
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his head
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basically like does gary neville have to
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say ollie should be fired he's not up
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for the job that's literally the debate
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that they're having right like that's
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one thing that's happening in in the
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media space i just the other one the
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other one that drives me nuts is like
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you and i have been on the show and you
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sort of laugh at me like why are you
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saying ollie out again no [ __ ] olly out
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everyone knows in the whole [ __ ]
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world that this guy is a championship
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manager and the fact that yesterday's
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game is now he's gonna be out he's been
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terrible the whole [ __ ] time yeah
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he's a clown by the way he was getting
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fired at halftime on wednesday right
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like
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he's because he's not good what i expect
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from the punditry and i understand that
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this is this is a tall order this is a
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lot more to ask than i ever really
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thought about and watching the nhl and
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espn proved it to me but
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it's that i want you
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the professional if you guys had a hall
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of fame i don't know
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they would be in the hall of fame right
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these guys are legends these guys have
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the ability to see the field
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in ways i could never even dream of so
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exactly right tell me about the game
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that i don't know what what don't i
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understand about this i've been watching
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your sport for 10 years i don't know
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[ __ ] anything compared to you right
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but but
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like i said it is very difficult in the
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moment to contextualize this stuff and
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not to just say holy [ __ ] arsenal look
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great holy [ __ ] norwich is the worst
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team ever you know what norwich isn't
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even the worst team in the last 12
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months okay
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um they're actually on a historic pace
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to be worse than derby that's how bad
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they are okay i haven't watched
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sheffield united last year was [ __ ]
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worse
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but they were they were in the end um
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yeah so i mean the united thing is is
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it's such an interesting sport and in in
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in this way
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a loss is not a loss it's how you lose
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right for united this isn't just that
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had they lost two nothing they could
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have lost five nothing as long as it was
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because of certain reasons actually no
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five nothing's pretty bad well if they
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had a red card early and right they
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looked laughable they looked disjointed
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they looked
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literally like they didn't have a plan
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and
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they don't have a plan it's clear like
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the the team that that was put out for
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that game was the same team that that
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solshar put out at atlanta that was down
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to nothing and looked awful and he had
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to bring on pogba and and uh and
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and crew to make the change that got
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them to be on the comeback and he was
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gonna do the same thing again like it's
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it's just madness right it's folly but
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what we want and i think the thing that
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is the problem for people like you and i
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who are insane people
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basically
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why would we have a podcast right uh you
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know you know it would be like you know
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we watch this [ __ ] we want more we want
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extra like i could have watched all the
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united stuff
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and i do watch all the united stuff to
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find anything that can i can bring to
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you guys on this podcast that's
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different right and so that's where
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these narratives come in and i i have a
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little bit less
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i'm a i like gary neville so i ha and he
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by the way if you don't know who he is
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he's the
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god what's his equivalent he's he's the
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who he's the he's a tony romo
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essentially of
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the premier league right like the most
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respected pundit who calls things before
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they happen right i mean he's not that
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good but whatever yeah he is the most
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respected pundit right because he's
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outspoken and he does he he's outspoken
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as a working-class person and we'll call
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the government out when it makes sense
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which is kind of cool anyway
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so
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he basically is saying this team he's
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saying everything but
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all they should be fired
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he's saying the team is unprepared i
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doesn't i can't see what they're doing
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on the
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coaching ground i can't see what man
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united is doing he gave a really good
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tidbit which was this he was like when
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you defend and you are in training
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you have to play like you're gonna play
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in a game no goals that was a really
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good insight that i listened to like it
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was the hour-long post-match game he was
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like when we trained it was no goals and
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if we gave up a goal in training you
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[ __ ] [ __ ] that guy out you didn't
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run back we're doing seven v7s and you
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gave up a goal no [ __ ] way
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that was a really good tidbit like you
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were looking for where you go oh
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ola is not doing that he's not going no
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no goals
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right
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or if you give up a goal in training
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you're not playing
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right that's definitely not happening
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right they're not coached at all
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it's just i think and i made this
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comment i think like so one of the
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things that happened in the united game
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is all of a sudden
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united started pressing out of the blue
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like they they've never
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whenever they beat city they beat city
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because they sit back whenever they beat
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anybody they beat them because they sit
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back and hit on the counter all of a
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sudden they started pressing as though
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someone went like this all right boys
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it's liverpool we're at home we're gonna
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take it to these [ __ ] scouser
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scumbags we're gonna go out there we're
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going to take the game we're going to be
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on the front foot we're going to go get
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them and everyone's like yeah [ __ ]
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and ollie's like come on boys let's go
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out let's go do it and then the two two
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young guys are on the team like did we
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did
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did we train on pressing like what's the
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trigger what do we do what do we do yeah
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and they go out there and someone
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presses and you go the [ __ ] he's
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pressing now what do i do
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oh i've got to press so and then
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liverpool just went right through them
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because they literally don't have a
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system they don't like i think ollie
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goes out there and just thinks that
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i think he thinks the talking that sir
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alex ferguson did when he played
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was all the coaching that he did
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yeah rather than
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rather than all the stuff they did that
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he's not thinking about because he was
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like oh why are we doing this stupid
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drill he's remembering ferguson's
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talks
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not all the training they did so he's
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like yeah i brought back man united we
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play this way i remember everything that
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gaffer used to say i'm like don't you
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remember that stupid training that you
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did over and over again when you ran
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back and forth and did shuttle runs and
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when when you saw a guy lift his finger
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up you ran with him do you remember that
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or maybe he was the striker and everyone
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said watch what ollie does when ollie
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goes you go
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and he never trained for it
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because they were living off his
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instincts
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that's boggling that a team that
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expensive and that good played that bad
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it is and
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before we any further on united we need
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to be said at the moment
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they were playing the best team in
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europe
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okay
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they were playing the best in europe
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with the best player in the world
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he's definitely the best boy but
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he's the best player in the world and he
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is on right now [ __ ] planet right now
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yes okay yeah it's it's not close and he
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did [ __ ] that the best player in the
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world does
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okay yes and
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so you had a combination i i think
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liverpool but liverpool didn't play well
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how [ __ ] up is this that they played
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okay but he played unfucking believably
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he always does right every day that's
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what i mean so so far be it for me to
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complain that liverpool isn't getting
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enough credit here you know i hate them
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like i hate isis they're really good
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you know isis makes a couple good points
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anyway
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i think that they're actually getting
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lost in all this
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you know you know what i've got it you
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know what you know what it is
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manchester united is france
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in march of:13:26
we got this
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yeah like the germans
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it'll be fine
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and then
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the vermont goes right through the
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ardennes and then churchill calls gamlan
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is like hey where are your reserves
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reserves
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what do you mean
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we we don't have any reserves they're in
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belgium with your army we have a sancho
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yeah we have sencho
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like are you [ __ ] kidding me what are
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you doing
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you hadn't been buying one defender you
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can buy one defensive midfielder why are
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the tanks in a line
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i i mean i don't know do you have gas
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gasoline what are you talking about we
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use the roads they bombed you on the
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roads what are you doing
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that's my good world war ii reference
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for the day that was good that was
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strong yeah it was very much france
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1940. it was very much that right like
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and i don't want to call liverpool the
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nazis but the liverpool are the nazis
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except they will i mean they have a
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german coach made in the lab so right
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god damn it he's a nazi anyway uh it was
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incredible but they weren't even good
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united were just
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they literally ran into each other yeah
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wambasaka on the wing and for the first
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goal is like pressing someone when
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someone's marking him like what are you
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doing
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yeah
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anyway
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i have been on the end of liverpool ass
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kickings as sure have i
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like really bad where we're down three
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nil because anfield turns up to 11 and
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they're in your face pressing you and
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kicking your ass this was not that
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this was just
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we're playing
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we're missing
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our starting midfield
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really
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keda and milner
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right
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and you know and by the way before you
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got it rookie center back
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konate has played two games in the
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league
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just copped aside today's a day
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trent didn't do much in fact he was on
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skates i mean he had a couple of good
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balls but
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they just went through them
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like pate threw a goose it was awful
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and i laughed because i was i was in a
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group with all the scousers at uh the
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the fan fest in l.a
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yes yeah which i want to get i want to
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hear more about that in a second but
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yeah oh baby i it was crazy the first
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first chance of the game goes to bruno
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and he puts it into music
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and
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from that i said liverpool weren't that
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good i went to take a piss and it was
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like two nothing and i was like whoa
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um
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but yeah i mean first so that's that's
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my my axe to grind on the punditry i
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just
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every day of this weekend had a
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different storyline like again man
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united liverpool was the last game of
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the week you had arsenal look amazing by
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the way they looked fine villa looked
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like complete and utter [ __ ] okay they
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played the three at the back and it was
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a disaster it was a nightmare
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um
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they didn't they didn't bring on bailey
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early enough and then when they did it
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was okay
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um they were okay in the second half
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saturday morning right chelsea did what
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championship contenders do to garbage
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[ __ ] bottom of the table teams
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i have a bone to pick with you you're
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you like farka staying i think he has to
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go like i i respect it but here's the
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thing he's gotta get but but here's a
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narrative thing no one talks about him
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getting fired is it because nobody's
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[ __ ] yes but if you're a norwich fan
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you care i mean people who are small
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level teams they want their teams talked
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about they complain about where they are
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on match of the day the famous show
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we're going to give ourselves
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i'm sure if we had norwich fans they'd
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be mad that we don't talk about them
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we're gonna give them three minutes on
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this show because if i told you today if
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we spend 20 minutes talking about norris
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we're never gonna no no no but i just
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wanted the context of just like okay he
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should be fired well uh in a vacuum yes
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right but the problem with norwich is
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that they are
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financially cash-strapped they are
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trying to keep their team afloat and the
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best way they know how to do it is
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staying
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winning the championship or coming close
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and being promoted to the premier league
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even if it's just for a cup of coffee in
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here they spent a lot of money this time
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to be fair
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yeah i mean they sold ben diaz they got
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brian uh brandon williams from united is
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a as a backup they've got
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uh tabak that was on liverpool last
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season just before the stop back of stop
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back uh stop they grabbed yeah they
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grabbed sergeant because who is older
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than dirt
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and he's not scoring
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but they
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they
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they did what they should do i just
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think that if i was a player on that
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team
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i wouldn't
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want to feel like there's no
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accountability that my coach can lose
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20 games in a row in the premier league
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which is what has happened going back to
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last season they're on more than 20
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games in a row lost okay there are
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different
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ambition levels
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there are
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the lesters
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who come up and have ambition to get
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into the top half of the table and then
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they win the [ __ ] league there's
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brentford's who are like actually we're
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smarter than these [ __ ] and
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we're going to beat them at their own
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game
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they've been getting screwed they have
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been and then there's norwich who's like
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just happy to be at the party um we know
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here's the thing about
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demoted teams is that they the air can
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come out of those tires so fast and they
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can go from cont contender for the in
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the championship to mid table and then
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it's all over yeah yeah then you're then
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then your leads and you're 17 years in
18:57
the wilderness right you don't want to
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be there they don't they know what
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they're not and i respect the [ __ ] out
19:02
of them yeah i i just i just think
19:04
though
19:06
there is
19:07
you can't just
19:08
keep the same i just don't i think it
19:11
goes stale i think you can lose the
19:12
players i think that just now maybe it's
19:15
not this season this might not be the
19:16
season for it and you're just content to
19:18
go down right that's fine but yeah
19:22
but i would want to show the players
19:24
that we have intent to stay in the
19:25
league
19:26
okay i would want to show the players
19:28
within the same structure you can still
19:31
change the manager they don't they just
19:33
need a new voice right here's the thing
19:36
can you
19:36
can you attract
19:38
a manager who will play the the type of
19:41
football that if you go down will bring
19:43
you right back up
19:45
can you attract him to norwich
19:46
they got they got him from the
19:49
uh farca is from the second division of
19:53
of dortmund he was the youth coach
19:55
you have a guy in wagner who's was you
19:59
know he's in germany you can bring you
20:00
could even get another german coach you
20:02
can get an attacking manager
20:05
but they stayed up one season playing
20:07
attacking football i'm saying you could
20:08
still go down but don't go down not
20:10
changing the easiest thing to change
20:13
but you but you lose
20:15
control quickly if you don't put the
20:18
right guy back in charge all right put
20:20
it this way let me walk back my
20:21
statement a little bit i'm not saying
20:23
i'm gonna ride with daniel farka till
20:25
the day i die what i'm saying is you
20:27
better be [ __ ] right if you're gonna
20:29
do it because this has been proven that
20:31
you can go bouncing back and forth be
20:33
financially solvent and squared away
20:35
there
20:36
but if you [ __ ] that up and
20:39
everyone knows i don't even know the
20:40
coach they should get
20:42
oh
20:43
ian yvette you haven't heard of him i
20:45
promise you he's the culture of bolton
20:48
he brought up a team called barrow from
20:51
the second division did three promotions
20:53
in a row and they literally called them
20:56
baro salona
20:59
they have a submarine on their logo
21:00
because it's where the uh subs were
21:03
built in i love that in barcelona and
21:06
he's a really good coach and young and
21:07
unproven and if you jumped him into
21:10
norwich he would be happy to make that
21:12
jump our three minutes on norwich are up
21:14
uh but we do need to talk about how
21:16
chelsea were like i said they do what
21:18
championship contenders do and they beat
21:20
the [ __ ] out of them and and
21:22
tip of the cap to them but again they've
21:24
lost they not lost they have dropped
21:26
points in three matches this season
21:29
yeah uh they the very valiant draw at
21:32
anfield which they were down a man and
21:34
exactly super heroic
21:36
i understand about it they lost to city
21:39
and they lost to juventus who's honestly
21:41
not your father juventus no they're not
21:43
very good so
21:45
until they beat somebody their third
21:47
best
21:48
for me i think i think everyone i think
21:50
everyone agrees with that i think they
21:51
are third best wow i was thinking of i
21:53
was thinking of
21:55
maybe maybe chris wilder formerly of
21:57
sheffield united could take that that
21:59
norwich team would you stop it with nars
22:01
we're not going to get anybody listening
22:02
i just wanted to get the manager's name
22:04
[Laughter]
22:06
where do we go from here what do we want
22:08
to talk about so i think the thing
22:09
that's interesting about the chelsea
22:11
game is
22:12
what does lukaku feel like he scored
22:15
early
22:16
there was a moment that the narrative
22:18
kicked up for them to score then they
22:20
kind of stopped scoring mason mount
22:22
comes back in and they play
22:24
for lack of a better word a more city
22:26
style with the small kind of punch and
22:29
judy strikers or want the ball at feet
22:31
and go at them and can move around be
22:33
more interchangeable and they put a
22:34
seven on norwich does tuko have enough
22:37
guts to be like you know what maybe not
22:38
lukaku because lukaku kind of has the
22:41
same problem that some of these strikers
22:42
have they can't press
22:44
they're not
22:45
weird because he's a gazelle and he's um
22:47
he's basically he's actually a horse
22:49
right like he's maybe
22:50
maybe it's the fitness maybe it's the
22:52
quickness maybe it's not maybe what he
22:53
wants to do he wants to go in behind so
22:55
that's an interesting piece of maybe
22:57
they can play differently maybe they
22:58
have another gear now and they and and
23:01
they can sort of think about it but in
23:02
when they play that way then they do
23:04
need pool of sick and they listen that's
23:06
how they won the champions league right
23:07
there well so they uh
23:08
don't
23:09
they had 18 they now have 18 different
23:12
goal scorers i think maybe 17. either
23:14
way it's a [ __ ] tremendous amount for
23:16
uh they get a lot of goals from defense
23:18
which is cool right it's probably 16 or
23:20
so games into the season at this point
23:22
in including champions league including
23:24
the cops and all that um so that's
23:27
incredible um but honestly and lukaku
23:29
has not been on the street in six seven
23:31
games yeah so i mean i love them like
23:33
this i love them in the in the three at
23:35
the back with with chilwell and james
23:38
and giorgino and kovacek i mean everyone
23:41
this whole front
23:42
the whole the whole the three can really
23:44
move around and press and do things but
23:46
again you know like norwich is is poor
23:49
and they're just yeah good enough give
23:50
what they're supposed that was and that
23:51
was easy i don't trust chelsea to not
23:54
regress
23:55
their back i think they'll lose i think
23:57
they'll i think they'll slip because of
23:58
draws they won't lose games they'll just
24:00
draw their way out of the championship
24:02
sure
24:03
because i don't disagree with that
24:05
however and and at this stage of the
24:08
season as we wait for liverpool to have
24:10
their comeuppance with afcon
24:13
it's got to be cities to lose and by
24:15
probably a comfortable margin at this
24:17
point yeah city city i know you hate
24:19
hearing that but like
24:21
and it's i don't i don't mean to make it
24:23
sound like chelsea or [ __ ] they're not
24:24
no no they're fantastic these are like
24:26
this is like you're not it's 95 points
24:30
yes this is the goal well because
24:32
because here's the other reason there
24:33
are only three good teams in this league
24:35
united are clearly [ __ ] arsenal's [ __ ]
24:38
spurs are [ __ ] yeah i mean you go you go
24:40
from four
24:41
to twelve
24:43
and
24:44
they're all
24:47
if we went back and listened to the
24:49
things united is
24:52
as talented a team as those other teams
24:55
as our top three as an individual they
24:56
just don't have they don't they're sorry
24:59
they're not they're missing a talented
25:00
coach right like if you count the coach
25:03
yeah
25:04
yeah yeah piece of data that helps your
25:06
team kick on
25:07
it matters right coaching matters right
25:10
yeah uh you know you do need the players
25:12
but this is showing like if you if if
25:14
you don't think that jurgen klopp
25:16
wouldn't win with that united team
25:17
you're out of your [ __ ] mind because
25:19
no i don't what is he going to sign
25:20
jordan henderson to play the six because
25:23
he would find a way
25:25
to play
25:26
that that is to the strength of that
25:28
group like if you don't think kante if
25:30
he comes into that united team if you
25:33
don't think that within two months that
25:35
team is petrifying
25:37
you're not paying attention to how good
25:38
that team is
25:40
it's
25:41
always full i understand and i'm not
25:43
arguing that but you can't play eight
25:45
attackers at once
25:47
right you just can you can try you can
25:49
try
25:50
you sure [ __ ] that brings me to
25:52
brentford uh to brighton versus city uh
25:55
and they don't have their eight and what
25:57
did they do they were like
25:59
grand potter being creative he was like
26:01
you know what i'm gonna play adam
26:03
lallana here and see what happens how'd
26:04
that go
26:05
it did not go well that did not go well
26:08
uh it did not go well in the first half
26:10
he was getting dominated and city in the
26:12
first half were well the first half hour
26:14
probably the best they played but they
26:16
did what they normally do they blow you
26:18
away they score the three goals and they
26:20
kind of
26:21
don't sustain the craziness but
26:24
different from i'm gonna keep going with
26:26
ollie and you can shake your head
26:28
different from ollie what we saw with
26:29
brighton was he came he took he put on
26:33
lampty he got rid of the three at the
26:35
back he went change the shape sure and
26:37
you know what that team
26:39
played really well brighton in the
26:41
second half of that game and got a goal
26:43
and deserved it and they basically they
26:45
gave up a final goal in the last
26:47
three seconds now it's a 4-1
26:49
it's only two goals different than what
26:51
happened to united but it's a completely
26:53
different manner of defeat it's like
26:55
just night and day and if grand potter
26:57
was [ __ ] managing united he'd have a
26:59
hard time because the players might be
27:01
like who the [ __ ] is this guy but if
27:03
they wouldn't feel like they're going
27:05
into the game with their pants down
27:07
which is what they are right they are
27:09
manchester united are
27:11
i'm gonna make a really bad reference i
27:13
don't care like the movie arthur they're
27:15
like a really rich handsome drunk guy
27:17
who shows up who really is missing their
27:20
potential
27:22
is liza minnelli
27:25
sure there you go
27:27
she's got the mail ticket she's just got
27:29
the meal ticket that's all yeah
27:31
so i'm making bad references no that's a
27:33
good one i like that
27:35
there was one on a podcast that said
27:36
maybe wes anderson could could be their
27:38
coach then they'd be then they'd be very
27:40
quirky and whimsical yeah the manchester
27:43
united hotel or whatever the [ __ ] right
27:44
they would wear really cool 70s outfits
27:49
yeah
27:50
they wear little hats and have string
27:51
mustaches yeah yeah um but that
27:54
that would be incredible
27:55
adrian
27:57
i do want you to talk about
28:01
spurs and what is going on with spurs in
28:04
london like you've lost four games in
28:06
london what's happening
28:08
um
28:09
we lost to chelsea who were a better
28:11
team
28:12
uh i don't know who the fourth one was
28:14
uh
28:16
the three big ones right chelsea west
28:18
ham
28:19
is is david here's an important thing
28:21
would you take moyes over nuno right now
28:24
no because we have ambition higher than
28:26
that right like this is the best that
28:28
west ham can possibly be last season was
28:31
essentially right like
28:34
and maybe i'm deluded and maybe i'm
28:37
officially far like we're far enough
28:39
away that i'm a crazy person for
28:41
expecting what i saw two to three years
28:42
ago under palace
28:44
the arsenal palace that's the fourth one
28:46
right right right
28:47
um
28:49
so yeah i mean look [ __ ] snap [ __ ]
28:51
past
28:52
um love them i love them
28:56
what's happened is i remember i said on
28:58
our show last week that nuno seems to
29:01
have figured out his best 11. i thought
29:02
he did too i was surprised against
29:04
newcastle who's the second worst team in
29:06
this league right
29:09
90 seconds although maybe bruce should
29:12
manage united i think he'd be good it'd
29:14
be so too wrong to make it right um
29:17
because he's a club legend right that's
29:19
all it seems to take the thing that was
29:21
sort of telling to me
29:23
was listen spurs boss the first half
29:24
they should have had a goal from sunny
29:26
probably could have had one from kane
29:27
yeah we go into half it's at nil nil
29:30
um and nuno doesn't make any changes
29:33
until very late on
29:35
and sort of that that goes to the um the
29:38
midweek loss against vitesse
29:41
uh one of the teams from the belgian
29:42
league um
29:44
lovely
29:45
um
29:47
they lose to them playing a completely
29:49
different 11 right not a single player
29:51
on both sides oh there was something
29:53
that nuno said that wrangled people what
29:55
did he say that this is my second team
29:57
like yeah like none of these players
29:59
belong here essentially not to that that
30:02
was the met that was clearly the message
30:03
that was delivered and so now
30:06
whether it's nil-nil or after even
30:08
antonio scores and like [ __ ] he's [ __ ]
30:10
on his bench
30:12
his bench is sort of [ __ ]
30:14
you're not wrong but fair enough you
30:17
know like
30:18
i don't know
30:20
look
30:26
the issue here is
30:28
skip and hoiberg are
30:31
fighting midfielders
30:33
who
30:34
battle
30:35
and when spurs are good they're going to
30:37
be good because skip and hoiberg [ __ ]
30:40
the other two guys up sure
30:42
and they went against
30:44
rice and sock
30:46
they can't fight those guys up no they
30:48
can't [ __ ] them up but i thought that
30:49
they did well i thought rice was quite
30:50
good as what you'd expect
30:52
uh and by the way
30:54
i think christian romero was
30:56
unbelievable i thought he was great not
30:58
good great in this game i mean i mean it
31:01
had neil nil draw written all over it
31:03
right like it's not like you got the
31:04
problem beat up
31:05
here's the problem it's just a tough
31:07
game christian romero
31:09
center back
31:11
promoted
31:12
more offense than harry kane than human
31:14
son right and what i mean by promoted
31:16
offense i don't mean shots on goal i
31:18
mean he intercepted a ball he stepped in
31:21
like you would expect the defensive mid
31:23
to do he read the pass his vision is
31:26
unbelievable if you watch this guy
31:27
closely he's fantastic yeah that's
31:29
supposed to be his thing right at
31:30
atlanta that's what he did right he's
31:32
he's aggressive and he's like all right
31:34
you're passing it to right no you're not
31:36
and we're going the other way he was
31:38
leading counter attacks like two or
31:39
three times maybe
31:41
maybe maybe nuno should go to the three
31:44
put romero in the middle and make him be
31:47
conor cody and then he'll really feel
31:48
comfortable yeah i guess i mean
31:50
[Laughter]
31:51
look i mean has he tried that yet
31:54
the goal comes from a really really it
31:56
was actually a very similar play reggion
31:58
steps in front of a pass
32:00
gives it right back and the corner that
32:02
results from all that [ __ ]
32:05
is is off of antonio's footing in the
32:06
net
32:07
so
32:08
again it's it's the issue that i think
32:10
spurs
32:12
have had since erickson left
32:14
and since the ballet left
32:17
okay since well aaron's the belly left
32:19
which is only six months difference but
32:22
you know the the creativity of break
32:24
teams down that are in the middle and
32:25
especially against that's a really tough
32:27
midfield that's our really good west ham
32:29
team like yeah you're not you're not
32:31
gonna just go to london and beat them i
32:33
don't think it's bad to have lost to
32:34
west ham it's just in the context of the
32:36
season this game is not gonna be a game
32:39
that you write back and go oh we should
32:40
have had that one uh listen i i was i
32:44
was ready for a draw
32:46
and it was compromised and i'm not
32:48
surprised that we lost on a
32:50
nearby
32:51
beast like you're post-stepping guys
32:53
have you [ __ ] ever watched west ham
32:55
before
32:56
cover the big dude
32:58
that was the other thing
33:00
why is harry kane marking him on a
33:01
corner i asked you
33:03
why isn't romero doing it why isn't dyer
33:06
doing it like like he's the [ __ ]
33:07
striker
33:09
he's back there
33:10
you're not going to score on a
33:11
counter-attack if he's back there that's
33:13
one thing for sure no no no and so
33:16
you know look and that's he's this is
33:18
another one this is a reactive nuno's
33:20
got to go he's he has he's lost
33:22
he's not no believe me you don't even
33:24
know
33:25
they've lost listen here's the stat
33:27
chelsea arsenal west ham they've lost an
33:30
aggregate ten to one
33:32
okay and not only that it's all about
33:34
like you said the manner of the defeat
33:35
right
33:36
that game that game sucked well okay you
33:39
could have had it you could have had
33:40
your goals you didn't you got [ __ ] on
33:43
a [ __ ] set piece and a [ __ ] goal it
33:44
happens
33:45
the way that they lost at the emirates
33:47
was shocking that was dead they got they
33:50
got bodied by chelsea chelsea you're a
33:51
much better team i'm not gonna run
33:52
that's fine arsenal are not better than
33:54
them arsenal are patently worse than
33:56
them i think
33:57
and
33:58
and here they are just
34:00
not even just not tracking not doing
34:02
anything so the matter
34:04
look you can lose one of those it's
34:06
going to happen
34:07
even if you lose to arsenal listen we're
34:08
not happy about it but you know okay
34:11
potter in
34:12
no thomas frank in
34:16
i want to raid brighton um brentford
34:18
excuse me
34:19
oh they did to be fair they did lose to
34:21
lester your guy daca that you grabbed
34:23
off the wire that i swore i had but yeah
34:25
uh he he's in and now i think vardy's
34:27
injured
34:31
pick up of the year may the
34:36
here's your update on nine in owen's
34:38
fantasy premier league thank you on to
34:40
the next um
34:42
but no i think that i think that one
34:43
time
34:44
and liverpool just alienated the world i
34:46
i just my heart bleeds for brentford
34:48
because they were
34:49
buzzing that entire first half by the
34:51
way on the preview show i did say that
34:53
spurs in west ham and and um bradford
34:56
and lester were playing simultaneously
34:58
and i said that i would watch more brent
34:59
for lester even before the west end goal
35:01
that was true i was like this game
35:03
[ __ ] stinks and this is awesome and i
35:06
did it was great uh lester you know
35:10
bunkering down they get a a goal
35:12
um
35:13
and brentford had pieces and chances and
35:16
they just couldn't get it past
35:18
michael
35:19
they finally break through off of a
35:21
corner at right after half somebody well
35:23
to be fair lester had the early lead
35:25
because yuri tillerman's is now the guy
35:27
who's yeah what the [ __ ] that's why i
35:29
couldn't for whatever i couldn't
35:30
remember how they got their goal but
35:32
yeah wow
35:33
yeah
35:34
just scoring ridiculous goals oh my god
35:36
that was i mean
35:37
goal of the month without a question but
35:39
i mean that's a goal of the season
35:41
candidate that was a funny again that's
35:43
his second one uh and then madison
35:45
picked one up late right after johnson
35:47
scored on the corner the thing that's
35:49
great is and this is one of those pundit
35:50
things where now i always notice it
35:53
uh in one of the match of the days alan
35:55
shira showed how brentford do overloads
35:59
and you if you watch them on any set
36:02
piece
36:03
anything you'll see tony and then four
36:06
other guys on the other side with him
36:07
where some guy's in the back and you're
36:09
just like
36:10
there's three [ __ ] here and i'm
36:12
on my own now you'd assume that everyone
36:15
would just do that or figure it out or
36:17
try and do it but i guess they have a
36:18
counter to it or they they move guys
36:20
around and they always end up sometimes
36:22
right they always end up with three
36:24
against an overload of four against
36:26
three three against two in the back post
36:28
where tony can either pick up scraps or
36:30
put one in and sometimes they they they
36:33
skip it and it just goes to another guy
36:35
because i think
36:36
putting it into the mixer is kind of a
36:38
luck
36:39
and skill but they do try it and it does
36:41
work and they do get their goals on
36:43
corners a lot they're still great
36:45
they're just getting unlucky i think
36:47
well the funny thing is that that
36:48
lester's winner comes off of a counter
36:50
from a corner right and then yeah
36:52
beautiful good gentleman's tealman's
36:54
again
36:55
clearly man of the match um serves in
36:58
daca who goes down the right side and
37:00
just squares it for madison who could
37:02
tap it in um but that one that one was a
37:05
bit of a dagger for for my brentford
37:07
love and for my brentford second half
37:10
moneyline bet so that's oh you had a
37:13
brentford second i went live i i said i
37:16
told her i always go live
37:18
yeah
37:20
yeah
37:21
but that was tough that was fun i was
37:23
watching that in the fan fest and i
37:25
wasn't i was i think i was the only
37:26
person who cheered for the brantford
37:28
goal because no everyone was just
37:29
watching spurs you really get a sense of
37:31
i'm trying to see if i can get my camera
37:33
from uh making me visibly disappear
37:36
every once in a while but i can't
37:38
um
37:39
but i couldn't but yeah the the i was
37:41
the only one who cheered for the
37:42
brantford goal i was just watching
37:44
brentford the whole time everyone's just
37:46
spurs there was some smattering of west
37:48
ham
37:49
it was all liverpool and and united so
37:52
it was just bizarre
37:54
to be today do they only do um
37:57
fan fest when there's a big liverpool
37:58
game i'm so tired of that redhead
38:01
sheamus oh he sucks he's the worst dude
38:04
i like i
38:06
walked outside i must have been walking
38:07
the dog or something and i come back and
38:09
my wife jess is like who the [ __ ] is
38:11
this guy i'm like oh it's it's is he
38:13
some crap former wrestler that no yeah i
38:16
don't even know anymore i was like he's
38:18
the wrestler isn't he i'm like yup might
38:19
turn it off i'm not even gonna watch it
38:20
the only reason i watched it on mute
38:22
looking for you but i was like this is
38:24
[ __ ] horrible
38:25
um
38:26
i don't know the first one they did in
38:27
the city was cool and i'm like nah i've
38:30
lost it the miami one was kind of funny
38:32
the way that they do the robbies the
38:33
[ __ ] with the robbies is fun yeah yeah i
38:35
mean listen it's fun they do activations
38:38
it is growing uh i mean i had i woke up
38:41
at four in the morning i was a mess i
38:43
just i couldn't tell you what was going
38:44
on it was exhausting uh by the way los
38:47
angeles
38:48
lots of bums on the trains
38:50
so uh i can tell you how this is gonna
38:52
go uh you gotta get them off the train
38:54
you can't have people living on the
38:56
[ __ ] trains okay not great not great
38:59
uh so pretty gnarly in that sense but it
39:02
was cool you know i took a picture took
39:04
a couple pictures it's cool to be at the
39:05
coliseum of the fan fest not the bumps
39:09
uh both both right um
39:12
they look like zombies yeah it's cool to
39:14
be at the coliseum i mean that's you
39:16
know:39:19
oj built it's just amazing
39:22
that's usc right he was a trojan uh so
39:24
he he ran in those fields what was funny
39:26
was it's a basically a giant version of
39:28
the forest hills stadium that i lived
39:30
near uh like it's just super high and
39:33
vertical and just a bowl with seats no
39:36
frills nothing because it was built in
39:38
1921 right but it does have that cool
39:40
arch there and it has the flame that's
39:42
going all the time so that was very cool
39:44
to be near uh the robbies came down for
39:47
a minute they chatted with some people
39:48
but they were pretty well uh
39:51
stocked up and taken away and the funny
39:53
thing was that i think about um and a
39:56
game you know we've been talking about
39:58
united we've been talking about your
39:59
team my team a game that would normally
40:02
be a game of the week that we haven't
40:03
even [ __ ] uh taken care of is uh our
40:06
friend mr ranieri dilly dong
40:08
[ __ ]
40:11
just [ __ ]
40:12
out of the blue
40:14
blow everton out of the water well no it
40:16
wasn't just that right and and our
40:18
friend our friend jess uh from the
40:20
squeaky bum time facebook group with the
40:22
which have you gotten this far in the
40:23
show you're in part of it um
40:26
you uh you alerted us to that because i
40:29
was doing a couple other things a lot of
40:30
games were in that time slot and i
40:32
looked i was like oh my goodness watford
40:34
were down 2-1
40:36
uh they took uh sar they took him off
40:40
right the player they brought on
40:42
emmanuel dennis
40:44
gets a yellow card then he gets two
40:47
assists and a goal the guy came on in
40:49
the 63rd minute i'm pretty sure
40:52
fantastic unbelievable so that you end
40:54
up winning five to two but it was on
40:56
four goals from in the last 20 minutes
40:59
of the game yeah uh josh kaley
41:01
josh got three of them josh king that's
41:03
right who
41:05
throws ancelotti under the bus he's like
41:07
i was there he never talked to me i
41:09
didn't know what i did wrong i was on
41:10
the team i was really i mean i was happy
41:12
to be there but
41:14
he
41:14
he sell he didn't celebrate the first
41:16
goal because he is a former player and
41:18
then progressively as he scores more
41:19
goals he gives less and less [ __ ]
41:23
which by the time he scores the fifth
41:24
he's basically like taking off his
41:26
clothes and running around that's like a
41:27
classically english stupid thing too
41:30
uh that i want to touch on real quick
41:32
this is why you guys lost the water
41:35
farmers like [ __ ] like that okay because
41:37
you've got george washington who's going
41:39
to attack you on christmas morning
41:41
and you're sitting there like no no no i
41:44
used to have some friends on that side
41:45
of the army like you know what i'm going
41:47
to respect them i'm going to let them
41:48
stab me in the [ __ ] sternum like
41:50
that's the kind of stupidity that we're
41:52
talking about here
41:53
celebrate the goal
41:54
celebrate the goal
41:56
heels are good i mean we don't we don't
41:59
have that in our sports at all do we
42:00
right except i mean i guess there's only
42:04
like johnny damon going to the red sox
42:06
he would no he would still [ __ ] them he
42:08
didn't care
42:09
yeah no well it's
42:11
the idea of mercenaries which ironically
42:13
would be even more
42:15
felt over there
42:16
um it's weird yeah yeah it's weird i
42:20
don't get it i guess
42:22
what you don't have a lot of is like the
42:24
redemption story right like put it this
42:26
way
42:27
if if
42:29
a player
42:30
scores against his old team or whatever
42:32
the like i i get like the muted
42:34
celebrations unless they [ __ ] you
42:37
yeah they did in this case they [ __ ]
42:38
him yeah then
42:40
just i would take the immediate yellow
42:42
card take the [ __ ] off
42:46
so and someone just have an undershirt
42:47
that says by the way
42:49
another side note so what's even crazier
42:51
uh
42:52
an anecdote on the united game because i
42:53
just heard this earlier
42:55
it was ten years to the day of the sixth
42:57
one
42:58
and the ballot teddy why always me i'm
43:00
sorry
43:02
and someone said
43:03
if only salah knew he could have just
43:05
done a why always me shirt too i would
43:08
have just killed united they would have
43:09
just been like i hate you scouse [ __ ]
43:12
oh someone would have someone would have
43:14
hurt him someone would have went in
43:15
two-footed like right away
43:17
oh we you know we didn't even touch on
43:19
pogba being like i gotta go
43:21
crack
43:22
[Applause]
43:23
i didn't start a butch by the way it was
43:26
uh it was a pogba tackle he was a little
43:28
salty he wanted to go in for the ball
43:30
i i don't like var i i didn't like it i
43:33
didn't care i was like until i saw how
43:35
hurt uh
43:37
you can't you can't govern for that but
43:39
you can't govern for that that's not
43:40
fair you have to govern your intent not
43:43
on results
43:45
no i don't i don't disagree but i think
43:47
that
43:48
it was
43:49
it was not malicious but it was a red
43:52
card i think for sure he totally [ __ ]
43:54
jacked his leg up so we're we are we do
43:56
have to cover the worst part of uh the
43:59
show which is uh how poor our gambling
44:01
went
44:02
boy i already alluded to mine
44:05
let me let me go through my heart for it
44:07
go for it um
44:09
first off on friday
44:12
villa plus 300. i followed you
44:15
very reasonable
44:16
i thought
44:17
villa
44:18
sure
44:19
arsenal decided
44:21
today's the day we're going to be
44:22
awesome yeah and actually
44:24
villa thought today's the day we're
44:26
going to be terrible awful and and they
44:28
were really half time oh god this i'm
44:30
going to get mad again
44:32
going into halftime they get a [ __ ]
44:34
penalty with aubameyang and emmy
44:37
martinez who owns arsenal knows all
44:40
about them you know what i was going to
44:42
tell you
44:43
obama young wanted to miss that penalty
44:45
more than any penalty he's ever missed
44:47
his face was bad his body was bad i was
44:50
like he's gonna miss this he's gonna
44:52
miss he's gonna make it he
44:54
body language doctor was like he's
44:55
missing this and he missed i thought i
44:57
felt the same way he missed
44:59
and scores on the rebound a [ __ ] goal
45:01
unlucky [ __ ] goal for
45:04
and
45:06
i just
45:07
at that point i knew the bet was lost
45:09
because i was like one nil i'm like
45:10
actually if arsenal goes up one nil i
45:12
feel pretty good about this i might go
45:13
back in
45:14
the thing was what was i was so certain
45:16
about was like no tierney they're [ __ ]
45:19
but i just what i saw from arsenal was
45:22
and i'm gonna laugh just
45:23
athleticism guys sure running yeah
45:26
tomehasu
45:28
flying
45:29
tavares everywhere uh yeah and and and
45:32
then neil smith right
45:34
really good running these guys are
45:36
athletes
45:37
where is this athleticism coming from
45:39
then i hear the stat arsenal has the
45:41
youngest team in the league i was like
45:42
oh
45:44
well there you go they're 24 years old
45:47
so i guess arteta has a plan
45:50
i guess we have to expect up and down
45:53
results
45:54
i
45:55
and this is why overreactions in
45:57
punditry are stupid i dipped them for
46:00
europe i'm feeling better about it now i
46:03
didn't but that's because i hate them
46:06
i also like i mean i did i looked at our
46:08
i looked at our i looked at our epl
46:10
table predictions oh god where did i
46:12
have them i had like eighth
46:17
yeah
46:18
but i had brought brighton at seventh
46:20
that's looking good we have the same top
46:22
three
46:23
and four through bot i had brentford 11
46:26
4 through 11
46:28
even 12 west ham yeah
46:31
just i pick them out of a hat then none
46:33
of them matter
46:34
yeah the only thing that matters is who
46:35
finishes fourth but they're all [ __ ] i'm
46:37
definitely not going to get my new
46:38
castle relegation though
46:41
not now not anymore
46:42
hey how was i supposed to know that
46:45
let me let me let me let me keep my bets
46:47
going uh as we go through it
46:49
so we had villa i had brighton plus one
46:52
so i had given him getting giving united
46:54
city a goal uh at plus 130 that looked
46:57
okay for a minute in the second half but
47:00
it did not look good in the first half i
47:02
was like oh they're coming back they're
47:03
playing better terry glamte came in did
47:05
some things in the corner i was like oh
47:07
nice
47:08
sexy time uh but then
47:11
city got another goal so they lost
47:13
4-1 and i was like okay well whatever
47:15
that's not the end of the world and then
47:16
the last one the last two you got [ __ ]
47:19
on it
47:20
i almost won on the united score well
47:22
you should have because i mean that was
47:25
and that was one that like that one felt
47:27
like
47:28
last season i'm talking about the var
47:31
on ronaldo oh that was so cool i was
47:33
just this is why okay and you're you're
47:37
going down the rabbit hole of degenerate
47:38
gamblers like myself because no i'm not
47:40
in a five no no you are a little bit
47:42
because here's why in a five mil game
47:45
ronaldo scores and i went oh [ __ ]
47:46
laurent won his bet
47:50
and then but it was the problem is the
47:52
var with the offsides
47:54
they've been much they've been different
47:55
about it this year but the way and they
47:57
don't give a lot of explanation like one
47:59
thing i will say about american sports
48:00
is that like the nfl or nhl or whatever
48:02
like they explain why the call is what
48:05
it is now you may not agree and it
48:06
frankly may not clarify all that much
48:08
but they at least give a half-assed try
48:10
you don't get any context and all you
48:12
see is the line and it's like nothing
48:14
like this
48:15
right but i was under the impression
48:17
that last year
48:19
or i'm sorry that this year that that
48:21
was a good goal and i was kind of it
48:23
looked good it i loved his arm i thought
48:25
they moved the arm up whatever it was
48:27
yeah he was a lean offside not a no it
48:30
wasn't his feet right and then i had
48:32
already lost the liverpool bet when they
48:33
were up 4-0 at halftime because i had
48:35
draw
48:36
liverpool win you did no that didn't go
48:39
well uh so i i i don't know why i
48:43
i think we i mean if we talked about on
48:44
the show we just thought the passion and
48:46
the way that united
48:49
sort of get these weird results and the
48:51
passion and how they stand up in these
48:53
games one of the things i thought about
48:54
with united is maybe they're in like the
48:57
rafa benitez to steve bruce mold where
49:02
as much as they hated mourinho
49:04
he got them to defend
49:06
yeah and longer all day
49:09
in that team
49:11
lest
49:12
principles of defense are there
49:16
and they're just going and slowly but
49:18
surely now they're just like what do we
49:20
i don't i don't know what to do right
49:23
it's just really bad i mean the pogba
49:25
thing pogba's problems showed up again
49:26
by the way the last goal caught on the
49:28
ball bing bang boom bing bang bosh gone
49:32
uh now that wasn't his fault i feel like
49:33
fred gave him the ball and he's like
49:34
dude what what what that's what i'm
49:36
saying like
49:37
[Laughter]
49:39
anyway
49:40
uh last one no i don't that was it yeah
49:42
liverpool draw win plus 500 villa plus
49:44
300 brighton plus 130 one goal yeah i
49:47
didn't i didn't win anything i think i
49:49
think i eventually put like five or six
49:52
bets in for the for the premier league
49:53
this weekend and i went over like i
49:56
didn't remember all of them i lost all
49:57
of them
49:58
college football went well though
50:00
so i only ended up because think about
50:01
who would have bet we would have bet on
50:03
we would have bet on aston villa we
50:05
would have bet something on brentford
50:07
and tony scoring a goal we would have
50:09
bet something on spurs winning the
50:11
corners against west ham
50:13
you know all the things
50:15
all the things that we were that we are
50:16
into because we like the teams we like
50:18
right we're not going to look for
50:20
great value we would have a crackered
50:22
some weird
50:23
combination of draws and wins and loss
50:26
because it was a weird weekend like
50:28
no one was gonna although i did think
50:31
and i have seen the numbers like if you
50:33
put
50:34
plus five goals norwich
50:36
uh chelsea you probably was like plus
50:38
five thousand well no chelsea was a good
50:41
candidate because there was no lukaku
50:42
they were sort of a makeshift backline
50:44
they weren't a good candidate for
50:45
norwich together plus i'm saying like
50:48
total goals in a game
50:49
oh yeah that's the team total sure yeah
50:52
yeah oh even combined team total would
50:54
have been huge yeah but when i looked at
50:56
chelsea i actually that was one of them
50:58
i had i had draw and chelsea
51:01
uh halftime full-time because i was like
51:02
look they don't have their striker
51:04
they're gonna be a little bit muddled
51:05
and you know what for the first five ten
51:07
minutes they [ __ ] were and then
51:08
norrish was like here you go
51:10
oh god damn it guys
51:12
so
51:13
that pissed me off that's that's what
51:14
started my whole chelsea
51:16
[ __ ] big sam in
51:18
come on
51:20
let's get that's who norwich need they
51:22
need big sam yeah yeah come on isn't it
51:26
worse i know i know jelly
51:27
you know what they can [ __ ] they can
51:29
bring farka back when they go down if
51:31
they go down if they want
51:33
come on that's extra knowledge content
51:35
that is yeah that's everyone's bonus
51:37
anyway i think we can get a lot i
51:39
thought this was really good i enjoyed
51:40
this episode uh we didn't ramble we
51:43
talked it was a lot to [ __ ] talk
51:44
about jesus that was i don't think we
51:46
missed anything can we have missed
51:47
anything probably we anything left in
51:49
you
51:50
no no no no i'm i have one i have one
51:53
thing that's annoying about my own team
51:55
i love the draw and i think i like the
51:57
garden floor of united losing more than
51:59
uh my own team winning my team is boring
52:02
yeah they just have no
52:05
it's only on the field there's no extra
52:07
stuff i have one
52:09
uh this is another bet that i lost i bet
52:12
on so i had villa and then i had in a
52:14
smaller parlay i had villa chelsea and
52:16
wolves now let's pretend for a second oh
52:19
i forgot about those other teams we just
52:21
give the scores of
52:23
friends but no it doesn't matter but
52:25
this is interesting because let's
52:26
pretend that villa wins on friday
52:28
chelsea smash norwich as we've talked
52:30
about wolves are up one nil the whole
52:33
game and
52:35
get a [ __ ] penalty in the after the
52:38
allotted time had ended in the 95th or
52:40
sixth minute
52:41
and that's how
52:43
that's how mike needs a new tv because
52:45
there's a cell phone sized hole in it so
52:47
i'm actually glad that i lost that bet
52:48
on friday because i would have been
52:50
irate now i would have hedged it at some
52:52
point but i still wouldn't oh it was a
52:55
94th minute draw
52:57
yeah it was it was bad
52:59
our friend our brentford of last season
53:00
mr leeds and that was i want to say like
53:03
that partly it was like plus like 900
53:06
right so i'm like look i lost it already
53:08
so i just didn't care but i was what i
53:10
was keeping the tabs on that game and i
53:12
went oh my god in a parallel universe i
53:15
just broke my hand on something like a
53:18
stud in the wall or something like holy
53:20
[ __ ] that would have made me crazy oh i
53:22
do have one i have one more thing we
53:23
have one new friend
53:25
in the league
53:26
who
53:27
maxwell cornay
53:29
of uh of of burnley a burnley that's
53:31
right yeah he scores good goals and i'm
53:33
petty inside of him he does he's another
53:35
one of these french african guys that
53:38
just have the juice that's what city
53:41
needs they need more africa they need my
53:43
kind of africans they need
53:45
riyad mahrez they need mika richards
53:48
they need those big
53:49
bad ass battering rings yeah yeah that's
53:51
who it is um desperate for yahya yeah
53:54
like if basum if basuma gets cleared and
53:56
city signed basuma
53:58
they won't get no they want me they
54:00
would never do that after the whole
54:02
mendy thing they're going to maybe steer
54:03
clear for a little bit
54:05
no they're going to keep a little
54:06
[ __ ] profile they have disappeared
54:08
mindy he's just there yeah
54:10
yeah he's on person they're going to uh
54:13
they're going to let newcastle be the
54:14
bad guys for a little while they're just
54:16
going to lay low
54:17
and maximum play on the same team i'm
54:19
not going to be able to handle it
54:21
yeah
54:23
because now raheem sterling is like
54:24
really a candidate for newcastle
54:27
really
54:28
yeah cause he's not playing he's mad
54:30
yeah yeah yeah he's like i'll get those
54:32
checks i don't give a [ __ ] oh yeah
54:35
anyway i'm gonna wrap it
54:36
up out of here that was the squeaky bum
54:39
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54:40
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54:43
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54:45
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54:59
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55:00
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55:05
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55:09
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55:10
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55:12
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55:13
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55:15
put something in the uh in the gift bags
55:17
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55:18
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55:20
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