We dish on the Supernatural Con in New Orleans and Season 3, Episode 7 "Fresh Blood" aka "Gordon Sucks." Liz finds someone worse than Gordon Walker and talks about the Gordon Stewart Northcott, Wineville Chicken Coop Murders, and the false commitment of Christine Collins in 1928.

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"Christine Collins." Deranged LA Crimes, https://derangedlacrimes.com/?tag=christine-collins.

"Gordon Cummins." Killer.Cloud, https://killer.cloud/serial-killers/show/322/gordon-cummins.

"Gordon Northcott." Killer.Cloud, https://killer.cloud/serial-killers/show/380/gordon-northcott.

"Gordon Stewart Northcott." Murderpedia, https://murderpedia.org/male.N/n/northcott-gordon.htm.

"The Chicken Coop Murders." Evil Kin, season 3, episode 12, Investigation Discovery.

"Wineville Chicken Coop Murders." Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wineville_Chicken_Coop_murders#In_popular_culture.

On this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast, we talk about Fresh Blood.

No, no, no.

We changed the title.

This episode is now called Gordon Sucks.

Let's.

Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast.

I'm Diana.

I'm Liz.

Who is amused by the fact that Diana just surprised herself.

She was like, wait, f. Recording.

I'm like, yes, yes.

You hit the button that says recording.

Yeah, I know.

Cold medicine.

I know.

But the look of delight on your face, you're just like, oh, this is what we're doing now.

It's time that happened.

Yeah.

So, hi.

So since we've spoken to you last, we have gone on an adventure to New Orleans, Spooky New Orleans.

And we've got an episode to talk about.

We got all kinds of fun stuff.

So let's jump in with New Orleans, and then we'll talk about where we're at now.

Okay, Sounds good.

What do you got to say about New Orleans?

So we went to New Orleans for the Supernatural Convention last weekend.

So that was.

Whatever date that was.

21St.

Sometime before Thanksgiving Day.

20Th.

The 20th.

The weekend of 19th through 21st, we were in New Orleans.

So we flew in and stayed at lovely spot in the Garden District and a converted synagogue that was really freaking cool.

And it was a really old building.

And we shopped all around the Garden District and took rose breaks, like you do when you're shopping in New Orleans, or anywhere, for that matter.

And then had a lovely evening outing to the Peacock Room, which is a beautiful place with lovely cocktails.

And then we spent all day Saturday at the Supernatural convention.

Yep.

Watching Rob Benedict talked.

We saw the lovely ladies of Supernatural.

That was great.

So it was Ruth Connell.

Brian.

Damn it.

Kim Rhodes.

I'm like.

I was like, wait, what are your actual real names?

Not the people you play.

I'm like, shit, I don't know.

Brianna Buffett.

Am I getting close?

I feel like I'm getting close.

Brianna.

I lost my cheat sheet.

I lost my cheat sheet.

Damn it.

Okay, let me see.

I have an easy way to figure this out.

I was going to Google Wayward Sisters,.

And that'll help me figure out Brianna Buckmaster, Kim Rhodes and Samantha Smith were the ladies, and they were hilarious and entertaining and great.

And then there was another panel with the men folk, including Adam Fergus, David Hayden Jones, D.J.

Qualls.

And then, of course, we went and grabbed some delicious lunch like you do.

And then we saw Misha Khan.

Sorry, I got to say a French thing.

Cauchon.

It's got some muffulatas like you do in New Orleans.

They're excellent.

Then went back and saw Misha Collins speak.

And then we went and took a bunch of pictures with baby, which we have shared on our Instagram, if you would like to see those.

And it was awesome.

And.

Yeah.

And then we took ourselves out for oysters and French 75, like you do.

And then we went to the Boutique de Vampire in the Oddity Store,.

AKA Liz's credit card hurts.

We found the most amazing Frankenstein and Bride of Frankenstein, who we've named Edgar and Francine.

And they had a lovely time because we took them to a speakeasy afterwards.

A vampire speakeasy.

I know.

All right.

We're not going to tell you what the vampire speakeasies, if you're spooky, you'll know.

You'll know.

You'll find it.

And it was super cool.

And then we went from there to effervescence because we fancy.

And had lovely.

Lovely amount of bubbles and french fries topped.

Excuse me, palm frites topped with a mountain of truffle.

And Liz had legit, like.

Like a legit mountain of truffle.

It was like I had so much truffle on my boobs, and I was like, I don't.

Like.

I feel like there's 20 bucks just sitting.

Of cleavage.

Decadence on decadence.

Yeah.

And then you had a delicious dessert.

That chocolate.

Was it.

Was it a panna cotta or whatever.

I don't remember this time.

I like, whatever that point.

I was drunk anyway.

Yeah, then we went there.

Yes, we were also.

Okay, we were drinking bubbles, but we were drinking absinthe in the bubble.

Death in the Afternoon was our drink for a bit there.

And then.

And then we went to the punk rock bar and drank a bunch of beer.

Yep.

Like you do.

So we got all fancy, then we got all dirty and.

Yeah.

And we took over the jukebox.

Like we do.

Like we do.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We made new friends because that's what we do.

We get drunk and we.

We create an entourage of people who follow us around.

So, yeah, we made new friends and we got.

Really.

Yeah, my tolerance sucks.

We took a little jaunt to try to go to a goth bar that was.

We got so good, we.

We were denied entry.

Not because Liz was drunk, for the record.

It was because they said that it was sold out, even though there was, like, nobody in there.

And we were deeply amused.

So we hopped.

We took a picture in front of the bar that we were not allowed to go into, and Got in our cabinet.

Don't you know who we are?

Do you know who I am?

And then ended up at the dungeon to finish off our evening pretty much.

We had one hour quick stop after that, but met a dog at the dungeon, like you do.

I forgot to dance.

We had a dance party and we met a dog.

I don't remember any of that part.

So.

Okay, cool.

Yeah.

And then the next day.

So this was also the really weird thing about this trip.

And it's just.

It's a small world.

So when I was getting on my plane from Austin to New Orleans, I hear somebody go.

Like, I look over and I see Liz and two of my good friends from Austin were on the same plane going out to New Orleans.

And then we get in New Orleans and then Diana figures out that one of her friends is there.

Our friends.

Yeah, yeah.

Who we talk about on the show all the time because she owns High Rub Distillery.

And so we ended up on Sunday.

Oh, Diana, keep talking because I'm going to go get my limerick.

It's in the other room.

So you tell everybody about.

Yes.

So our good friend Stephanie, who has Hi.

Rum, AKA Ruminate distilling in Dripping Springs, Texas, was there with her significant other.

And we went and grabbed brunch at Sylvain, which had a really good Bloody Mary, which is exactly what we needed at that moment in our lives.

And so I got to walk around, have a lovely brunch, and then walk around the square with them.

And Liz took advantage of one of the wonderful street artists in Jackson Square who will type a poem for you.

However, she made a special request.

She wanted a dirty limerick.

I did, of course.

I'm back.

Hi.

So, yeah, this guy who smelled a lot wrote a dirty limerick about me smelling.

So I'm kind of like on a typewriter.

On a typewriter.

So.

And we.

I can send you the picture, Diana, I have of Edgar and the poem so everyone can see it.

So the poem was called Dry Heat.

I say palm Limerick.

All right.

So this is Dry Heat was a gal named Liz from Texas who was famous among all of her exes for the scent of her nethers.

And while she got pleasure, she had tested all their gag reflexes.

Yeah.

So smelly poet guy, when I asked her during Limerick, basically gave me a limerick that my pussy smells cool.

It's actually.

It's very clever.

And I tipped him well.

So thank you, Fair dirty poet.

Yes.

So, yeah.

And then.

And then it was time to go home.

We flew home.

So, yeah.

So that's been.

That Excitement.

And in the time since then, we've had Thanksgiving and I got a cold and I got tattooed.

Well, not.

I got tattooed and then I got a cold.

That would be rude.

And, yeah, I think that's about all we're up to, right?

Is that what we call it?

I mean, there was.

There was Thanksgiving in there, too.

Yeah, there was a Thanksgiving holiday in there.

So that's why we didn't.

We didn't put a show out.

We figured y' all would, you know,.

Y' all be busy with your families.

And honestly, I was just.

I'm fucking exhausted from life.

And so eventually, you know, we'll get.

Back over, we'll blame it on the holiday.

That's why we were.

We were just.

We were giving everybody their space for their thing to be thankful for.

Yeah.

I ate a very large pie and then therefore, couldn't do anything for a week.

It was a delicious pie, though.

It was chocolate cream.

It was so good.

But then, like, the crust on it was really thick, so I just kind of ate the middle.

So by the time it was done, it was just like.

You had, like, a whole pie crust.

You had the pie crust left over.

Another pie in it.

I should have just kept putting, like, just Catcher reusing the crust and putting more pie in it.

Oh, yeah.

So that's that.

Yeah.

And then, you know, I have been just watching absurd amount of television and movies went on this kick where I decided I wanted to watch ridiculous Dwayne Johnson movies.

So I've watched a lot of movies with the Rock and things.

Like, I've never seen.

Like, I never saw the Jumanjis.

So I watched the Jumanjis.

They were delightful.

They were delightful.

Especially the second one.

And I'm like, why did nobody ever tell me this movie was so delightful?

And then last night, while I was finishing up research, decided that I needed some brain cleansing because we get to what lore, whatever we're going to call it this week is.

Things got dark, and I was like, I just need something on.

And I went to Discovery plus and found they have a new crafting competition show, but they're so fucking serious.

It is like, there's so much crying over soap.

I have never seen so many.

Like, this is why I make soap, because my, you know, mother beat me as a child or, like, whatever reason.

But it was just, like, so many feelings, and they keep using soap as a verb.

And so they're like, yeah, like.

And they call themselves soapers.

So the first episodes also, and they're like, yeah, we're sopers and we're soaping.

And then they have all these different, like, phrases, like, they had, like, that went with the soaps.

And it was very, very.

I mean, I don't know how to feel about any of this.

You have to watch it.

It's just like, you just.

I was like.

It was so, like, once I started catching onto the soaping thing, that it just, like, went bonkers.

Like, okay, this is what happens on the show.

And then the second episode is all about candles.

And Diana is a candle maker, so you should watch it.

There's some technical stuff in there, but dear God, Like, I vomited so much watching those.

They're like, this is my sea candle, and I'm using all these seashells because this is like, where my.

I'm like, like, what the fuck?

Like, who still things with seashells?

And, like, no, no.

And then, like, one girl came up and she was like, this is my broken heart.

And I'm like, fuck, yeah.

That's what you do.

You do the broken heart.

But then she was like, this is my happy rainbow.

And I'm like, why did you ruin it?

You had a broken heart with a sword stabbed through it.

They're like, that was all you need to do.

You don't need to have, like, the happy rainbow shit afterwards.

Like, I would have given you the prize.

Like,.

Yeah.

So I also think, like, I was like, yeah, the show would be made for talk soup.

And I like, realize, like, with that, there is a whole needs to be filled.

And somebody, if you.

Yeah, somebody.

Come fill this hole.

That sounds so dirty.

Fill the hole.

I was.

I was gonna let it slide.

No, you can't.

I couldn't.

Okay, good.

I'm glad.

What are you drinking?

So I am drinking a hot toddy because I'm on the end of my cold, and that's my excuse for drinking a hot toddy.

How about you?

I am drinking a Bordeaux.

La hort de la garde.

I have no idea.

That's what he said.

I don't.

It's some shitty organic Bordeaux, but it's not shitty.

It's delightful.

But it's like a $15 bottle of wine.

So that's where I'm at today.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was like, I'm on call.

Like, I.

This is my last week as an incident commander on call.

For those of you who know me.

That's very exciting.

But it also means it's my last week of being very stressed out of.

Is this going to go.

Am I going to have a New, like, did Russia hack somebody?

And I'm not going to jinx it, but.

So, yeah, I really haven't been drinking or anything.

So, yeah, hopefully I'm not going to get shit faced off this glass of wine.

Yes, that's it.

So let's jump into fresh blood.

Or as season three, episode seven, Episode.

Seven, or as we're going to change a name to Gordon Sucks.

And I think that actually is very funny and appropriate given what happens.

So Gordon Sucks is the name of this episode.

So you would have been watching it right when you were doing your turkey time, like us.

This was directed by Kip Manners and was written by Sarah Gamble.

So we've got that and we're gonna just go right into this and we're gonna start off with one of my favorite people, Bella.

And then, ugh, no fucking Gordon Buck.

And Gordon shows up at Bella when she's at her Mercedes, Walk into her Mercedes and he's basically stolen her gun.

And he wants to know where the brothers are.

And she's like, oh, I thought you were in prison.

And she's like.

She basically said she does cover for them at first.

She's like, I don't know where they are.

And he, you know, Gordon's going off on his whole thing about how he's convinced that Sam's the Antichrist and.

And she.

She mocks him a little bit with like, I heard that.

Something about that from the Easter Bunny, who heard it from the.

The Tooth Fairy.

So Gordon's not amused and is pointing a gun at Bella.

So she said that she doesn't respond to threats, but she'll make a deal.

And so he offers her money to find out where the.

Where the boys are.

He offers her three grand.

She said, I don't get out of bed for three grand.

But then she sees his little.

His mojo bag.

And she said, that would make them even.

At first he's like, no.

And it's old and priceless.

But then again, he's willing to part with it for the Winchester.

So he throws it to her.

She calls Dean and asks where they are.

And Dean answers the phone.

And as you can guess what's going to happen with the episode, he tells her where they are.

So we cut to our brothers.

Sam and Dean are shockingly, by a dark building.

I know.

They found another industrial park.

I know.

I'm like, oh, shocking.

They found an industrial park to shoot an episode in.

And they find this guy bleeding and asking this guy, this guy bleeding on the ground.

He's not dead, though.

And they're like, oh, where is she?

And.

And he like, kind of points.

So Dean goes off of looking around and.

And kind of stops in a room and he cuts his arm to use blood to draw the person out.

So with the machete.

For the giant machete.

And granted, at least it looks clean.

But still, like, I really hope these boys have their tetanus shots.

Like, you're going to get lockjaw.

Like, you keep cutting yourself with like, random metal shit.

Like you're going to end up with an.

It's just going to happen.

Absolutely.

Even if you don't get tetanus.

I mean, there's so many, like, service infections you could easily get.

But so obviously they're after a vampire.

That kind of solidifies it.

You know, we saw someone bleeding on the ground.

But then also now with him using blood to draw, it's like, okay, they're after vampires.

So you see this blonde vampire kind of panting and she attacks him and he almost gets fucking bit.

This was very risky.

And he injects her with.

So at this point you're not screaming because I have in all caps in my notes.

Oh, my God, it's fucking Harmony.

Yeah, I do.

It's Harmony.

Harmony Kendall from Angel and Buffy is played by Mercedes McNabb, who is our first vampire.

Her name is Lucy.

Also, she actually also has some small roles in Addams Family movies.

She does.

Yeah.

She is the original Girl Scout.

She is the one.

So during.

They're not small roles.

Oh, my God.

How dare you.

You say that Mercedes, she is not the part.

She is not part of the family.

She does have.

She's tied to a steak and set on fire and it's satisfying as fuck.

I watched that this weekend, too.

Yeah.

And the other one is.

She's the original one is like, would you like to buy some Girl Scout cookies?

And then we were Girl Scouts.

Yes.

And so I love Harmony.

I love Mercedes McNabb.

She got into this because she was friends with one of the producers.

I don't know if it was Eric or.

But they get me a bit Eric.

But was basically just.

Was kind of like, wasn't sure she wanted to do another vampire role.

And then she saw this and she was like, oh, no, this is really good.

So she took it anyways, so I'm glad she said yes.

So I get to.

We get to see many other sides of Harmony.

And, you know, I'm just going to shame you again because you still haven't watched Angel So I know.

I watched the first season or so.

You've got to get past the first season.

You got to get to where it's really, really good.

And when Harmony comes back, like, pretty much like, when Harmony is there, like, things are so good.

So good.

Anyways, okay, so we've got Harmony jumping on Dean and he stabs her with a syringe.

Yeah.

And Sam calls Dean out for cutting it so close, which he really did.

Like, it was a close call.

So we cut to her being tied to a chair.

And Sam's asking her questions, like, where's your nest?

And she's like, I have no idea what's going on.

And Dean's threatening to inject her with more dead man's blood.

And we kind of figure out that she doesn't know she's a vampire.

She thinks she's just real fucking high, which is very distressing.

Like, oh, shit.

Oh, shit, this is dark.

So basically, her story is that her name is Lucy and that she went to this club, Spider, and said that there was some older person, like, 30, 30 bitch buying her drinks.

And they're like, Deacon or Dixon at this point, and then.

So.

But basically he's a dealer and he says he has something new for her and drops something in her brain in her drink.

And they're like, oh, was it red and thick?

Like, maybe like blood?

And she's like, I think it was roofies.

And I was at his place and I got hungry and I broke out.

So basically, he's like, dosing chicks at the bar with vampire blood.

Yeah.

Which is shitty.

But also, I've been to a number of vampire clubs, and I'm sure, like, oh, yeah, drink this blood.

It'll be fine.

But one, her name is Lucy.

So Bram Stoker, Dracula, we've got Lucy, right?

So we got that in there.

She is somehow making this Cammie situation work.

I don't know, like, how?

She's like, I wish I could pull that off.

And she just does.

Like, I have so many.

Like, I buy handmade like that all the time.

And, like, hers is, like, covered in, like, dried blood and whatever, and it still looks good.

Fuck you, Harmony.

Like, how dare you?

And also, I never referred her to Lucy in any of my notes.

It's just Harmony.

Yeah.

So Dean is basically telling her that, you know, you've got a dose of the worst virus out there with so much compassion in his voice.

And I'm like, what the fuck is up with you, Dean?

Like, I think they treat her so bad.

Like, I'm very offended for her once.

They realize it, that she has no fudgeing idea.

Like, she full on thinks she's hallucinating.

She doesn't think anything of any of this is actually happening.

She thinks she's just real fudgeing high and can't come down.

And they're still being kind of shitty to her.

And I mean like, I get like, okay, she's a vampire and you can't really unvamp her.

But at the same time, like, she didn't choose this.

She wasn't like attacked like a victim.

Like, I mean, yeah, she might like to party too much, but God damn.

You're going to treat Sam like.

Like an asshole because his mom dripped demon blood into his mouth.

You're going to treat Dean like an asshole because he volunte chose and like make a deal with the demon.

Like, no, you guys aren't doing that.

You're just doing this to this chick.

So I don't know if you're just working out your feelings on her, but.

It's not cool, Dean.

It's not cool.

Yep.

And so basically though, but they're like, yeah, your lights too bright.

Your sun burned your skin and you killed two, almost three people.

And she's like, no, I just want.

Just help me.

She's like begging for help.

And Sam, you can tell, feels bad for her.

But Dean's like, no, you know, we don't have a choice.

So he cuts her.

He just cuts off.

Cuts her head off.

And that's.

Harmony is done.

Hi, Harmony.

At least you have that cami to wear to your grave.

He looks really good in it.

So we're gonna flash to a hospital room and.

Oh shit.

Now it's not just Gordon.

Now we got fucking Kubrick here too.

Oh.

Oh, fuck, I forgot.

I forgot his name for a minute.

And I just called him Creeper.

I call him asshole Jesus guy until I looked up his name.

So either way it works.

I sure, yeah.

So they.

They're talking to the guy that was almost killed by Harmony slash Lucy.

And he describes her, the attacker, as having like PCP strength.

Just kind of funny.

So.

And then.

But Gordon's really, really concerned, asking if she bled on him.

And he's very confused by that statement.

But as you would be.

Yeah, but then, you know, I honestly think their explanation makes sense.

Like from a clinical day.

Like, it's a bloodborne pathogen.

You've got to actually ingest it.

Like she can bite you and the saliva isn' to do it.

It actually has to be you Know from the blood.

So that actually.

That makes sense.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So.

And then.

And then he.

He tells Gordon and Kubrick that she jumped on me and bit me.

And then two guys chased her down the alley.

One of them was tall.

So now, of course, Gordon and Kubrick know for sure that the Winchester brothers are there.

So we see the brothers leaving a bar, potentially the Spider, where this was happening.

And Sam's just convinced they're on a hunting ground at this point.

And around the corner, they see this guy walk off with, like, some chick, like, walking around the alley, like, all.

Also, you do see the spider side.

Oh, did you?

I missed the spider side.

Yeah.

It's actually a pretty cool sign.

It's like a red neon, and they have, like, a little black widow going down.

I saw the red neon.

I missed it.

My bad.

But, yeah, so they're.

You know, so she.

So they're like, all right, we need to go follow this.

Because obviously this guy's going to dose this chick now.

And right when he's about to dose her, he's like.

He's.

The guy says, one hit of this and you'll never be the same.

Accurate.

Creepy, but accurate.

And the brothers show up.

So she gets away and.

But the vampire does also.

And the brothers run around the corner and straight into Gordon and Kubrick, who start just fucking shooting.

They just open fucking fire.

They just start hammering them with bullets.

They just.

So anyways, I started blasting.

And so Dean tells Sam to run and he'll draw them off.

And Sam's not happy about this, obviously, because they've got their.

You know, Dean's got his, you know, tragic death wish now.

And then vampire.

The vampire that they had been chased, that they chased off, drops down and just kicks the fucking shit out of Gordon.

So satisfying.

Yeah.

So.

Yeah.

And so we got Sam super worried at the motel, and then Dean walks in.

So it makes a joke about getting.

Stopping for pizza and being a badass, of course, because, you know, can't admit that he's being irresponsible at all, ever.

So Sam really wants to know how.

How they were found.

And Dean realizes then that it was fucking Bella.

Says that bitch.

And pulls out his phone.

And she's like.

Yeah, she.

She.

She tells him that she sold them out.

She blamed it on Gordon having the gun on her.

She meant to call them and warn them, but got sidetracked and didn't realize it was a big deal because there's only one of him of two of them.

But it's not.

It's two and two.

And he said, dean tells Bella if they make the Sadness alive, he's going to kill her.

And he sounds real fucking serious.

So much so that she actually looks concerned.

And she's never really looked concerned when he's been after her before.

Yep.

So his attitude is just really, really bad at this point.

It was like, no, I would be concerned, too.

I mean, like, oh, shit, okay.

No, he's gonna kill me.

Yeah.

Oh, what did I do?

And.

And kind of like.

I mean, he's kind of right here.

She sold them out for realties.

Now I know that she had the gun on her, too.

Like, I don't know what she would have done, but at least she could have worn them, not been too distracted to fucking bother.

Like, come on, bitch.

Yeah.

So now we cut to back to an industrial park, and Gordon is tied to a bed frame.

And there's also two blonde chicks strung up by their wrists that are tied up who appear to be vampires.

And the Dixon is feeding them blood is Dixon.

Crap, I forgot.

I just have him as vampire vampires feeding.

Feeding them blood and calling them his family, and talks about how he's a.

His type, are a dying breed, and he knows who Gordon is and blames him for being responsible for vampires being close to extinction.

And then we get some lovely more Gordon shit.

So Gordon says, oh, they're not your family.

They're fang whores.

And then he disputes a bunch of nonsense, and I fucking hate him.

But then.

Then things get good because the vampire kids.

Gordon blood.

Suck it, Gordon.

Yeah.

Like, literally, he is pissed.

So, yeah, this guy.

This guy's like.

Dixon's like, you, Gordon, you're a piece of shit.

You want.

You hate us so much, you're gonna be one of us.

And does that to him.

So Gordon is now a vampire, which is both very poetic and also really probably bad.

Just saying, yes, it's good and bad.

And then, you know, Sarah, when she was talking about.

So Sarah actually wrote the first episode that Gordon was in and then also the last episode, so she actually got to see his character from start to finish.

So you get this arc, which is as we'll go through the rest of this episode, but, I mean, it is like, you know that interesting thing that someone who saw things in such black and white now is like being shoved.

Like, you don't have a choice.

You're going to see this other side.

Yeah.

And we're going to see what you do with it.

It's not good.

What you do is.

It's not good.

Gordon, you missed the message again.

Yes.

You still missed it.

Yep.

So the brothers agree that they're.

They just need to kill Gordon.

And Dean's just surprised that Sam agrees.

And it is a little surprising, but also not.

I mean, obviously at this point, there's no fucking changing Gordon's mind, right?

They're not going to talk him out of killing Sam.

He is dead.

Fucking focused on that, miss.

So Bella, while they're there and they're discussing this, Bella calls and she said she's found Gordon's location.

And her.

Basically, she doesn't like grudges and she doesn't want to be killed.

So I'm going to help out you guys as much as possible in undoing this clusterfuck that I contributed to.

So.

And she relays a message from this, from Spirit world to leave town and don't go after Gordon.

I also love.

This is like.

This is the most convenient way to track people ever.

Like, you don't need to find my phone.

Or, you know, just like, no, I'm just going to hit my Ouija board and be like, hey, where are they at?

Hey, spirits, where they be?

All right, so we cut back to the industrial park, of course, where the fucking vampires at.

And Gordon is now strung up like the blondes with his little.

His little wrist tied up and he's developing his vampy, vampy senses and everything's coming into focus, but apparently he's, like, way stronger than other vampires because he's.

He just pulls the fucking chain out of the goddamn ceiling and leaves.

Well, makes a bunch of noise, looks at the girls, and then they cut away.

Yeah, so he leaves the.

He leaves.

Leaves the vampire den, if you will.

And he goes out to the street and he sees some guy changing a tire.

And at first he seems like he's trying to resist the urge to go eat this guy, but he eventually gives in.

And you see him.

His fangs come out and he eats the guy when that's the guy changing his tire.

And he sucks.

And then Gordon just sucks away.

And we're gonna go back to another.

Back to.

I said back at Industrial Place.

So back at the dungeon, whatever the fuck the vampire was living at.

And our vampire is very upset because our blondes have been beheaded.

Yes.

So Gordon, even though he is a vampire now, he beheaded the two blonde vampires also.

And.

And the brothers are there now.

And Dixon, the main vamp, he's just.

He's like.

Like bawling.

He's on his knees and he's like, look, just go ahead and Kill me.

I just.

I just want a revenge on Gordon.

But I'm done.

This is desperation.

I've lost everyone I've ever loved and I don't want to spend my attorney alone.

This is hell.

It's actually kind of sad, is.

Yeah, yeah.

No, I mean, he basically has lost all his family and they're not good.

They're not good vampires.

Or not.

You know, but yeah, he's been going through my shit.

And then he.

Gordon rips the heads off his new children, which, you know, he also, you know, there's a lot of problems in this.

You know, he basically had a lot of problems.

He like kidnapped and drugged them and.

Yeah.

And chained them up.

It's.

It's real weird.

But he basically stopped giving a damn.

It's like being dead already.

So basically he's.

This is a sociopath vampire who's very depressed and has lost his shit.

Yep, yep.

But so, but this is.

You know, the fact that their heads have been ripped off is what, instead of cut off?

Yes.

And Sam's like, oh, oh, no.

That's that shit.

Gordon's a vampire.

Oh, no.

Ah, fuck.

So we go to the Jesus trailer.

I call the Jesus rv, the Jesus mobile, rather Jesus mobile.

And Kubrick's there and Gordon's there.

And Kubrick asks if Gordon's okay.

So Gordon tells him that he was turned and that, you know, and Gordon knows that Kubrick has to kill him.

But not until Gordon kills Sam.

Because he thinks because I'm stronger and faster now, I can do this.

I have to be able to do this.

And so you can't kill me until after I kill Sam.

Then I'm ready to die.

It's my last good thing.

I'm going to die.

Do.

Jesus Christ, Gordon.

Yeah, some self righteous shit there.

Well, Kubrick is like, oh, sure, sure, sure, man, sure.

But about to stab him because he's like, nope, you're a vampire.

I'm killing your ass.

And then Gordon kills him first by like punching his hand straight through his chest.

At least he's done.

All right, cool.

So Kubrick did.

But it also seems like a waste.

Because at this point, it.

If Gordon's a vampire, he didn't drink his blood.

Like, come on.

I think he's full.

He's from the, from the, from the car.

The guy changing the tire.

Yeah, yeah, fair enough.

And really, do you think Kubrick tastes good?

He doesn't.

He just.

He tastes like sour.

Sour or something.

Like, you know, it's not good.

Yeah.

So we're going to go back to the guys at.

Is it a motel or a swat?

Like, I really couldn't tell because they had everything like, put up.

There was a lot of mattresses for being a motel room, but I kind of think it was.

But they had the mattresses, like, up against the.

They're trying to, I guess, stack and protect from Gordon trying to get into their room.

I think it was a weird ass motel room with two beds in it and had both mattresses and box springs up.

That's my theory.

Yeah.

No, I mean, because it kind of looks motley.

Yeah.

And I was like, but it was just some mattresses.

I mean, it woke up.

So anyway, so we're there, the guys are there, and.

And.

And then their phones get smashed.

Yeah.

Sam smashes their phones because he doesn't want Gordon to be able to figure out their numbers and their cell signals.

And Dean really wants to go out alone again looking for Gordon.

And Sam's like, no, this is a terrible idea.

You're gonna get yourself killed.

And he's like, just another day at the office.

Massively dangerous day at the office.

So Sam calls him out again about taking too many risks and acting like he's already dead.

Calls him a kamikaze.

And Dean says, no, I'm a ninja.

And Sam is not amused.

Yeah.

But I actually think for this time, I think maybe it's because we finally get a reaction at the end that I don't hate this fight as much as I've hated the previous ones.

Because Sam is really fun.

I mean, like, look, this is when you were scared.

This is what you do.

And so to me, I was like, no, that actually is granted, you know, something we.

We know about him.

But I think it's a good insight into the character.

Right.

And so Dean does seem to acquiesce to this.

Us.

And so.

So he says they'll cover their sins.

And then Sam is burning a sage bundle in a bowl because.

I don't know.

I don't know.

That was supposed to cleanse their phone signals.

I don't know.

I have no idea why.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So if I can keep the NSA off of me by burning some sage, that would be great.

So.

But this is.

This whole, like, argument kind of ends with Sam saying, like, I wish he would drop the show and be my bro.

Oh.

So they agree to wait out in a motel room together.

And they're just like, fortifying the room.

And I think my comment about that, by the way, was that Sam burned some weird shit.

So.

But then apparently Dean's got his burner phone and it rings and he's only had it for two hours.

And guess who the fucking is.

Gordon.

Gordon is apparently very resourceful because Dean.

Smells and he left a scent all over the cell phone store.

Is that the theme of this episode?

Our episode, not the episode.

So Gordon's like, look, you got to come to me.

I have a hostage.

And that's it.

And Dean's like, don't do this.

You don't kill innocent people.

You're a hunter.

And Gordon answers, no, I'm a monster.

So he's like, bridging between the two.

Vampire versus just being set on his mission still.

So basically, he doesn't identify as a hunter anymore except for to kill Sam.

Yeah.

Which is a kind of a big, big character change for Gordon, I would say.

Maybe.

I mean, I was just like, oh, I'm gonna be shitty here now.

Like, I was shitty over here and I'm gonna be shitty this way.

So we're gonna get back to industrial land.

Yeah, Back to the industrial park, like we do.

And they, you know, they're going to them.

And they find the hostage and untie her.

And then a garage.

As they're trying to escape, some garage door drops.

Perfect timing.

And it separates them from each other.

And Dean.

I know Dean's with the hostage and Sam's all alone and the lights shut off.

And, you know, it's pitch black and Sam can't see, but Gordon, Cam, because he's got his vampire sight and he's gonna chase him around in the dark.

It was kind of cool.

They had, like, this weird red night vision.

That was supposed to be Gordon's point of view.

Yeah, I was like, vampires see red in the dark.

Neat.

And then we get more Gordon monologuing monologue.

He sacrificed everything to kill the most dangerous thing I've ever hunted.

You're not human.

Blah, blah, blah.

Just die already, Gordon.

Just fucking die.

That is all my notes say from, you know, from here on out.

Just fucking.

What do you.

Yeah.

Sam calls him out, though, and he tells Gordon, tells Sam, you're not human.

And Sam says, neither are you.

Facts.

Facts.

And then.

Yeah, and then we realized that, you know, Sam points out, like, look, you didn't kill that hostage, so maybe you're not a total monster.

But then it dawns on them, dawns on him and the audience at this point that the hostage is not just a girl.

She's been turned.

Oh, no.

Oh, no.

So right as Dean's trying to get to Sam and get through that crazy doorway that separated them.

She turns into a vampire and attacks him, but he shoots her in the head.

With a cold.

With a cult.

And so we get some fun electrical.

Electrical flickering.

But then we get more Gordon monologue.

I don't even know.

I didn't even write down.

I mean, he really does.

He really does fit like that.

The trope of the.

You know, the supervillains who really like to talk about themselves.

He really, truly does.

Does.

Yep.

And then finally, whatever.

Like, I really don't give a shit what he says.

And they finally fight.

So the fighting Gordon bites Dean, and then Sam.

Well, Sam solves the shit by taking a razor wire.

Is it that this seems into.

This part's intense.

He has razor wire wrapped around Gordon's neck, looped around it, and it just keeps pulling and pulling and pulling until the razor wire beheads him.

Yeah.

And so he finally.

Gordon's dead.

Yeah.

Dance a little dance on his head.

Like, I really kicked it.

I would have used it a soccer ball.

Yeah.

So we're gonna.

We're gonna take a pause and think about this, right?

So Gordon is dead, and we're gonna play a game.

Uh.

Oh.

So we could have a lore sound in here.

I don't know if you want to.

Whatever.

It's not really lore.

It's sort of lore.

But we're gonna play a game called which Gordon is Worse?

Oh, okay.

So originally, you know, Diana, like, we were going to talk about the casket girls tonight, and we started talking about them.

We'll talk about them one day.

One day.

I'll tell you all the history about our casket girls to learn about them at some point.

But I was just really in a bad place after watching this, and I was very angry at Gordon and the fact that he existed.

And so I was like, you know what?

What?

I bet there are a lot of crazy people named Gordon.

And you know what there are.

We've got, you know, the Gordon Cummings, the Blackout Ripper.

We got Gordon Ramsay, the Gordon Fisherman.

I mean, we've got like, all of those people, but we're going to stick to with one for today's game.

All right, so we're going to go with which Gordon is worse, Gordon Walker or Gordon Stewart Northcott?

Do you want to.

Do you want to take a guess, like, right off the bat, which one you think is going to be worse?

You want.

Want to hedge something?

I mean, I don't know.

Like, this one's pretty bad.

So that one has to be real.

The other word has to be real.

Fucking bad.

So I'm gonna bet it's him.

Okay.

All right, so we're gonna start off with this.

This is a story of the Wineville Chicken Co op murders.

Oh, wait, and that's Coop.

Wineville Chicken Coop murder.

Sorry, that's chicken coop, not chicken co.

Op's a thing too.

Co ops a thing too.

But it was finally dawned at me that says chicken co.

Thinking it was co op for the last two days.

But anyway.

Christine Collins is a typical mom at this time, and I think she may be single because we don't.

I don't hear about her husband being mentioned, but she gives her nine year old son, son Walter, money to go to the movies like you do.

Walter, go catch the talkies.

I don't know if they were talkies at this point, but.

So she gives him money for the movies and he just never comes home.

And it's really sad.

And they.

Sorry, the cat just jumped on the back of the chair.

And Diana is laughing again because.

Yep, that's happening.

Okay.

So she basically goes to place.

She's like, my son's been kidnapped.

And it becomes this huge thing in LA at the time because a girl had just been kidnapped and found dismembered.

And somebody says, the public is like, oh shit, we got another kid missing.

Like we need to find it.

So all.

And becomes like a nationwide thing.

So everybody is searching for Walter and they, they just don't find.

So five months go by and there's a boy that appears in the Cobb, Illinois.

And he is like, I, Walter, you found me.

He's like, yay, Walter's here.

So he.

Christine pays for him to go from Illinois to Californ.

But the boy who arrives, although he looks like him.

So I was just like, that's not my kid.

But Captain J.J. jones in the LAPD was like, that's your kid?

And she's like, no, no, sir, it is not.

He was like, you are a hysterical female.

He just looks different because he's been away for a few months.

So why don't you take him home for a few weeks and try him out?

Lyday tells her to try out this child.

And so just try out.

Like, you'll figure out it's your kid, right?

Like, so she like, she's finally like, I guess I take this kid home.

So after three weeks, like she is like, at this point, she is enlisted help of my people who like to.

You like dental forensics.

I was like, dinner, for instance, Dennis.

And they're like, walter's mouth had a lot of fillings.

This child has not had any dental work done.

And she goes to the police and she is like, this is not my kid.

He doesn't have any fillings in his teeth.

And the police are like, ma', am, you're just trying to embarrass us at this point.

And you are an unfit mother and you are a terrible woman.

And because you are like this, we are locking you up in the psychiatric ward.

So they take Christine Collins and they put her in the psychiatric ward of LA County General under Code 12, which is a code to commit someone who is deemed difficult or an inconvenient.

Oh, fuck, is that still code?

Can I make a list?

There actually was a reform that came after this that you know where I think I kept trying to find that the President.

I saw somewhere that they changed how you would commit people after this.

But that's probably a good idea because I mean, if that.

If difficult or inconvenient was caused to commit people, there'd be a lot of people committed right now.

We would save so much time.

I wouldn't have to watch things in the airport about how you should be an adult and not get really drunk and hammer on flight attendants.

Yeah.

Anyways.

What?

You're crazy.

People people don't like.

People need to be told that.

They do, apparently many times and by animated characters.

So insane.

So she is kept in this hospital and the number of days are kind of like I've seen anywhere from five to 10.

But she's at least there for a number of days where at least those.

Are the days she didn't have to take care of the strange ass kid.

Right.

Well, except they're cheating her really bad, inhumanely, because it's a psych ward and they're giving her all sorts of different.

Like different kinds of medicine to try and bring her back to her senses and admit this as her child.

So while she's locked up though, the child finally admits, my name is Arthur and I am not her word, her son.

I was just basically, I didn't like my parents.

I ran away from home and when I was somebody told me I look like this kid.

So I decided to just be him, actually.

Kind of smart though.

And creepy for a kid though, right?

They have such a demented child.

There's things that happen with Arthur, but whatever, fuck Arthur.

I Don't care like you.

So they finally let her out of the psych ward and she basically sues them.

And she was like, what the fuck are you doing to me?

And so the actual captain was ordered to pay $10,800 to her, which is about 100 grand now.

And she was going to use this money to search for her son and he never pays her.

So he never pays her money.

She brings him in and out of court like over the next few years and be like, bitch better have my money.

And he just still never pays her.

So but at this point after she's gone, the police finally turn up a lead.

And that leads us, brings us to this shitty Gordon Gordon Stewart Northcott.

All right, so the Northcott story.

So in the.

I think there was also a daughter there too, but whatever.

And so, and some people say, you know, he was spoiled or just basically his mother had a very unhealthy obsession with him.

So you know, they've, they've been in LA for about a year.

And so Stuart, this is, we're calling, we're not going to call him.

Gordon called Stewart for me moment.

He's 19 and he befriends a 10 year old child, you know, like healthy 19 year olds do and then he tries to molest a child.

And so oh yeah, trigger warning, trigger warning.

We're about, things are about to get real bad talks.

Tales of childhood abuse, brutality and murder are coming.

So there's your sugar warning.

Sorry I didn't say it earlier.

So, so okay, so the kid goes to the police and the police are like well what's happening?

And then they got Gordon's mom or stewards mom is like new.

My son would never do anything like this.

Why would you believe this lying 10 year old?

And they're like, well I guess like you guys are right.

And nothing happened.

But the whole thing they also didn't tell the police was that they had moved to LA because this shit happened where they were before.

So they had moved there to cover up like what he was doing.

And Stuart's like hey mom, you know what I really want?

I want to farm on a farm.

I want to live in the country.

And really he wants to live in the country so he can fuck with children and nobody will know.

And his parents being the outstanding citizens, they are go.

You know, I bet if he's in the country, we're not going to have police knocking on our door.

Buy him a chicken ranch.

So they buy him a chicken ranch in Wineville, California.

And so chicken ranching apparently is very hard and Stewart doesn't want to pay for anybody to help him.

So he has his sister's 13 year old son, Sanford Clark, come down from Canada to help out and immediately starts abusing him.

And like just it's all very horrific what happens to Sanford.

But he's being physically and sexually abused.

He's only allowed to work, work on the farm.

He is writing letters to his sister and his mom who are up in Canada still.

And.

But Stuart is watching him every time he writes these letters.

So everything.

Yeah, but the letters are starting to sound really weird because if mom, this is like, this doesn't really sound like him.

Like something is going on.

So eventually Stanford actually basically developed Stockholm syndrome because he's not allowed to go anywhere.

And so he basically is getting beaten to submission by Stuart.

But at this point Stuart decides that Stanford's just not enough for him.

So he starts roaming all over California looking for abandoned children and also migrant children because a lot of people, especially those in Mexico, were sending their kids up to California to work, work the fields because it wasn't considered that unsafe at this time because there was a television to tell us people, you know about people like Courtney Stewart.

Yeah, like this is fine.

So he is basically picking up children on the side of the road and he takes them to the farm, he keeps in for days, abuses them and then drops them off on the side of a road.

And, but usually they're, you know, they're little boys and this is one obviously, please don't listen to them to, they're just embarrassed by what happens.

Which is something that's very often happens with male, male victims of sexual abuse.

So, So a lot of, you know, they don't even know that is going on.

And so Sanford is there.

Remember Sanford's like 13, he's probably like 14 at this time.

But so he is witnessing everything that's happening.

And whenever there isn't a kid there, he gets, you know, the brunt of the abuse.

Right.

So this is going on this ranch.

Sanford's fucked in the head in other places.

Sorry, that was awful.

And this is all kind of make.

There's a lot of things when they talk about the body that was discovered there being an unnamed Mexican child, but I found his name as being Julio Mendez.

I really hope that is who he is and that can be acknowledged.

But so.

So basically, Julio stands up to Stuart, was like, nah, dude, I'm not.

I'm 15.

I'm not gonna fuck you.

Like, what is wrong with you?

And Stuart kills him, and he shoots him and has Sanford help him dispose of the body.

And according to an episode of Evil Ken where they talk about this at this time, Stuart's getting bolder.

And so he's no longer now looking for random people, like random migrant children or other people who can't be identified.

He sees Walter Collins walking around town on the way to his movies and basically is like, hey, kid, you want to go for a ride in my car?

And kidnaps Walter and takes him out to the ranch.

And this is a time when Christine reports him missing, and it's making the press, but there's nothing that's tying it to the ranch.

So five days after Walter has disappeared, Stuart's mom, Louise, has showed up at the front farm, and she discovers Walter asleep inside a locked shed.

She confronts Stuart, and then supposedly she bludgeons Walter with an ax to the head.

It is debated whether or not it was her.

Her trying to cover up what Stuart was doing, or Stuart actually is the one who killed him, and then Louise just covered it up for him.

But regardless of that horrible fact, Sanford is made to dismember the body alongside a Stewart.

So basically, Stewart is making sure he has a hand in all these crimes.

That's fucking with his head more and more and more.

As the body has been dismembered and buried, Stewart then kidnaps two more boys from town.

These are the Winsome brothers, and they were kidnapped from a park.

He abused them for six days, then murdered them again, making Sanford participate in the murder.

And after a few days, she kind of.

She gets Stewart to tell her some of what's going on, but she knows that she can't alert Stewart.

So Sanford tells her what's going on a little bit, but she doesn't confront Stuart because she didn't.

Basically, they know that he would kill her and that his mom probably would too.

And like, you know, they're just like.

So she stays over several weeks and then goes back to Canada.

And she's a smart little cookie like Jesse a lot because she's like, you know what, I go to the cops, they're not going to do anything, so I'm going to go to immigration.

So she goes to immigration and tells them that her brother is illegally in California and they need to deport him.

And it's really shitty that I know.

Like, you know, 100 years later, literally, I can't believe it was 100 years ago, but 100 years later this is probably the same shit, right?

Like I can call and report you to immigration and people more likely to take action than if I reported something else.

It's really shitty.

But also smart, Jesse, smart.

So the police end up going to the ranch.

To be fair, it's also easier to prove probably, maybe, yeah, sure.

Faster to prove.

Yeah, yeah, but I think you're gonna get action on it, right?

So the police do go out to the Chicken Ranch, but by this time there, Stuart kind of knew things were going on with the sister.

So he and Louise both flee to Canada, leaving Sanford behind.

The LAPD come out to, you know, joyous people that they are.

They come out to the Northcott ranch in Wineville and they find Sanford there and they take him into custody.

And after a few days he tells the police everything he does say that three boys are murdered on the farm up there this point.

So police go out and they start digging and they don't find any complete bodies at the site, but they did discover personal effects of missing children.

They also discovered a blood stained ax and body parts including bones, hair and fingers from three of the victims that were buried in Lyme near the Chicken house.

So Stanford tells the police that quicklime is used to dispose of the remains and the rest of the bones have been dumped in the desert.

Louise and Stuart are captured and they're arrested near Vernon, British Columbia and then extradited back to the States.

So that according to Sanford stories at this time he Sundays, look, only four boys were held and murdered.

The three LA children who remains were found and eventually who Northcott is put on trial for and an unidentified Mexican boy that Northcott beheaded and disposed of the body.

So this may have been somebody who was not Julio Mendez.

I don't know.

There's also stories of him renting his victims out to wealthy Southern California pedophiles files.

So that basically, you know, this is what you know, they were doing at the Chicken Ranch.

Like People would come out there and take turns with the boys.

So we got.

Now we're going to trial, right?

Louise takes blame for all the murders and attempt to save her precious boy.

She basically ends up getting put on trial, though, just for Walter Scott's murder.

And she pleads guilty for that.

They didn't want to put her up for execution because she was a woman.

She served her sentence at a state prison and was paroled after less than 12 years.

Yeah, life sentence or 12 years, you know, whatever comes first.

So during her sentencing, Louise claimed that her son was innocent and then also went in all these crazy things about that he was an illegitimate son of an English nurse nobleman.

She said that she was Gordon's grandmother and that he was a result of incest between her husband and their daughter.

So all sorts of fun shit she's just spewing out of the trial.

And she also says that as a child, Gordon was sexually abused by the entire family.

And, you know, frankly, wouldn't be surprised.

He turned out to be a fucking piece of shit.

Shit happened to this kid.

Like, not gonna deny that.

Was he a son of an English nobleman?

Probably.

Probably not.

Was he probably abused by all of his family?

Yeah.

Yeah, that's probably true.

So Sanford Clark was never tried for murder, thankfully for him.

But he was sentenced to five years at the Whittier State School, and his sentence was later commuted to 23 months.

And then he went back.

He was deported back to Canada.

So then Stewart goes to court, and like many dumb serial killers, he discharges his council and defense himself.

He didn't do a good job.

He did not know.

And he was convicted for the murder of the beheaded child and also the Winston brothers while he is incarcerated.

Incarcerated?

San Quentin.

He basically went back and forth between like, I'm innocent or I killed 20 people.

Like, he just kind of, you know, he never really.

And basically, he was a pathological liar.

And he was always like, I will show you where more victims are being buried.

And then he'd always, like, change his mind at the last moment.

The warden of San Quentin called him a lurid account of mass murder, sodomy, oral copulation, and torture.

So vivid, it made my flesh creep every time I talked to him.

So, yeah, not a cold dude.

His final words were a prayer.

Please say a prayer for me.

Yeah, probably have some for you.

But and so.

So that's what happened to him.

Our Captain Jones, our police officer, he got suspended for four months without pay.

Oh, no.

I bet that was very hard on him after he imprisoned a woman.

Yeah.

Other aftermath of this.

So if you ever go to Mira Loma.

But that's actually Wineville.

I like Wineville, but, you know, and his house is still standing.

You can actually go see that.

So.

And the other last thing on the aftermath is, despite the evidence, Christine refused to accept that Northcott had murdered Walter.

And she tried to reach out to him over while he was still on trial, before he went before and before he was executed.

And she was supposed to meet with him on the eve of his execution, and he told her he was going to tell her what happened.

And then when got there, he denied her seeing him and said, I'm innocent.

I don't know.

I don't know anything about it.

But Christine never gave up on Walter, and she spent the rest of her life searching for him until she died.

And she was 75.

Very sad.

Holy crap.

So this has actually had its place within a lot of pop culture.

I've never seen it.

I may watch it now.

I've heard about it.

I remember hearing about it.

It looks real dark, so I don't know if I want to watch it.

I'm like.

I'm like Jumanji or really dark thing about, like, child, you know, you getting put in prison.

Oh, no.

But it was also one of the plot lines of American Horror Story.

Hotel.

And so Miss.

Ms. Evers, a maid of Hotel Cortez, is seen in a flashback having her young son abducted by a man on Halloween.

So implying that her son is one of Gordon victims.

So.

So that's the story of Gordon Stewart Northcott.

So.

Which is worse?

It's real hard, isn't it?

Yeah, I think.

I think.

I think Stewart might be worse.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, he is.

He is.

He's.

He's definitely worse.

He is definitely worse.

But it doesn't make Gordon any better.

It does not make Gordon Walker any better.

Remember?

It doesn't.

But yeah.

Yeah, if you got to choose, definitely, definitely the Wineville Chicken Coop murders are way worse.

Yeehaw.

Well, thanks for that Sunny story, Liz.

Okay.

I feel like I thought I was gonna hear about French vampire Girls no.

So, all right, we're gonna get back.

To Gordon's head lying on the ground.

Yeah.

So Gordon did very aggressively from Sam and Sam's hands are all bloody.

And while he's very.

And you can tell Sam's like pretty shaken up, but, like, that's a pretty hands on, like, gnarly way to kill someone.

And Dean calls Sam reckless now, which is kind of funny because that's been a thing going back and forth.

So we cut to our closing scene of this episode.

We see a cooler beer and Crazy Circles by Bad Company is playing.

And we're on the side of the road, which is a very odd place for this to take place.

And I will get there in a second.

So Dean is under the hood on Baby.

And you know, Sam hands him a beer and some tools.

And Dean's like, oh, a car could be out of tune or it could be something else.

And I'm just gonna say, like, if the car is out of tune, like, unless it's literally not running, you don't stop on the side of the goddamn road to fix that.

You, like, find somewhere where you might be.

Have to sit for a minute because it might take a while.

Not just a cooler beer, like, not just like over in the woods on the side of the road.

Maybe they just want to be here.

It's just a weird place to stop and do a tune up.

I agree.

I agree it's weird, but I was like.

I was like, oh, no, something's wrong.

Like, wait, no, this is.

Are we just doing some maintenance?

The fuck are we doing here?